LMAO "Ken players don't care about the future" is so funny and so accurate. You can't condition them, because they're not paying attention to what you're doing at all. Truly playing in the moment
Seeing this knocked a lot of edge off because I thought I was the only one had to deal with this annoying shit, and they be thinking they’re good players because the panic mashing works in their favor due to one button reactions
@@darrellwilliams1714 That's the game. There isn't an issue of "falling for it". Everything is negative so you can't really pressure mashers. The only frame traps are chained lights which don't do enough damage to deter anyone and drive rush to get plus frames is not safe if the other person wont stop slapping buttons. Even the worst players won't press after blocking a drive rush because everyone knows it's basically the only time they can't.
Seeing the difference between your combos in the first set and the second is pretty staggering. I really need to start playing enough where I don't drop stuff in games, despite being able to do the combos just fine in training mode. It's so frustrating because I know I can do them
Honestly, playing against CPUs helps me a lot with that. You don't have the pressure of figuring out a thinking human being, but it's similar enough to a real match that you can start to develop the muscle memory, and situational awareness of when to go for the combo. Then, once you get comfortable with it, hop back online and it'll be much easier to land
Playing against a masher is the most frustrating thing ever. Especially against Ken Players... like I cannot remember the last time i played a ken that kept mashing DP or spam dragon dash hadokens out of neutral
@chilledchupacabra5317 ohh for sure man I was playing alot of ken and sakura in sfv and I remember how terrible I was never made it out of bronze lmaoo
@darrellwilliams1714 Did you not see Smug almost lose to a button mashing Ken? Players who mash or play Modern don't know what they're doing. And thus are more random and hard to pin down. You my friend are 💯 percent a button masher because only a masher would say something like that.
@nicorobin7762 Nope. Smug is a good player. He's playing a new character against a scrub masher. Scrubs don't know what they're doing or why they're doing it which is why they're hard to pin down. They do random shit. Which is also why Smug almost lost.
They heard not to flowchart, so instead they play so random even they're not sure what's going to happen. Basically my kryptonite as a person and relies heavily on pacing and reads to avoid being overwhelmed. My reactions are great... But only when it's in situations I can control and limit options for. These people disregard all of that and just monkey mode, flustering me and tanking my reaction speed. This is when I just poke from like half screen and pray with Aki. With Lily I just run away, get charges, and bank off them not understanding her frame advantage with charges/meaties to land high punish damage.
@@darrellwilliams1714being random is not a good strategy. say it works 40% of the time against a good player and you can catch them off guard. you are still not going to consistently beat them. they will adapt and you will lose.
Haven't gotten a chance to try out Street FIghter 6 yet (Purchased MK 1). Is Ken the Meta super villain at the moment? Every video I see showing a Ken player is met with either Fear, Anguish, disgust or some mixture of the 3.
It be like that sometimes. Try using more of Ed's juke moves more. I'm telling you, you can get some pretty good mix up with his jukes. Also, you can juke backwards if you throw out one of your canceling buttons. Bob and weave, bob and weave lol.
Those who act like they are random and peak to never lose a match and those who act like they never struggle with an unusual gameplan. They are both capping. Sometimes you simply get steamed rolled by an unexpected flowchart. It will work if your opponent is use to your current gameplan and you suddenly change to a total black from white spectrum.
I have a friend who plays excatly like this. The playstyle is soo annoying. However his playstyle help improve my punish combo and make the best out of it.
If they aren't annoying you by their style they aren't playing right. Lol I play like that for a reason. Shows me what I can n can't get away with. If you don't stop it I'll keep doing it until you stop me lol.
Seeing that 1st set made my anxiety level jump over 9000. I was " where are his AA's? HK works pretty good also. Nevertheless, I feel your pain sir lmao
Man you had your work cut out for you today good job smug for winning against ken to me you just gotta keep practicing more with ed because this character is a beast if you know how to use him properly
I feel like this set of moves for Ken is a bot template that you encounter at all levels. Dragon lash ino jabs into DP. If that don't work dragon lash into throw. If that don't work cr MK into jinrai. If that dont work random DR or hadoken spam. It feels script-ish.
As a former ken main until Edward came back into my life. Yeah i agree, idk if its the fact hes blonde, rich, and kinda has that alpha chad vibe but yeah ken just turns me into an asshole in game with my friends lol.
That modern controls wouldn't be so bad if they only had specials linked to them and not the mashing into combos with one button online. One of the reasons I stopped sf6 after Rashid dropped. Mk1 suffers from its own bs too sadly
Who was mashing though? Seemed the Ken knew when and where to do what. If he was able to give smug a run for his money, I wouldn't say he was just mashing.
@@darrellwilliams1714 u can tell if it's a masher or not that all I've seen Dimond and master Ken's do other then the ones on TH-cam I actually just got done fighting one they mash on your inputs no matter wat to get that small window to hit you 🤣
I hate fighting Ken. Smug you gotta lab some combos homie. Just duff HP into DR into HK snatcher into back half circle HP. Or Duff HP into DR into MP into DR again into Target Combo or and OD button. His Cr MP is also Drive Rish Cancelable.
The amount of crazy non sense i have seen from players below 1700 MR: 1. Wake up Drive RUSH... i am Not shitting you. This happened when i was doing shimmy and suddenly dude decided to wake up DR... like how does that make any sense. 2. Wake up dragon slash... that left me speechless. 3. Neutral jump, land and Drive imact... wtf! are they thinking!? 4. Zangief users wake up SA1 thinking i would jump😂 - i can understand doing it one time, but this dude did it twice in 1 match (2 rounds). Why risking everything every time? Finally the worst thing this week... 6 fu*king Ed in a row in rank... i rather play some ken, luke, jp these days.
Aye yo SMUG I got a combo I made up with Ed call it the dumb dunker I want to see if u can do it if u think u can set yourself to 10 hp and have the bot Drive impact u LP,LP,DR,LP,LP,LP,LP,DR,LP,LP,LP,LP,Heavy Psycho Blitz in lvl 3 if done right it would take of 70% its dumb nut kinda work if not use medium instead
Players like that Ken are the worst type of player but theyre easy to stop. You just have to concentrate and slow their game down and they always fall apart
SMUG STILL PLAYING HORRIBLY. Can't get ANY COMBOS, DOESN'T MAXIMIZE DAMAGE, DOESN'T GET GOOD DAMAGE ON PUNISHES, this is crazy cuz he never does these things even when trying new characters. This character must be super difficult to use or he just needs a lot more practice than the usual
Yeah modern players should be banned from ranked and tournaments ib my honest opinion. You can easily tell smug isnt being outplayed but rather that its an actual unfair advantage
I'm not gonna cap sfv Ed would dog sf6 Ed this Ed is nerfed a bit. Especially when it comes down to getting around blasts. Jp is a bad match up along with guile
Bro who ever this dude is don’t even think about playing or touching my character EVER again in your life. You got no combos, no frame data knowledge, and horrible special timing. If I were you I would just stay on the only fighting game u know which is brawlhalla
I don't know how to elaborate too much but I only really liked USF4, other fighting games don't appeal to me, I played less than 10 hours of SFV, tried a bit of gg but it ain't my cup of tea. Never bought SF6, but I still play SF4 so I'd guess I don't like fighting games I only liked the game I like if that makes sense
@@MagicienYT I started with Street Fighter 4 too and I believe it is one of the best SF games out there. So we have a similar taste. SF5 was really bad, I am not sure when you played it but on release I would say it was a failure. If you played near the end of the game (it was OK). SF6 is an interesting mix of 3rd Strike and SF4 with a newer take on SF. I don't know your skill level or mentality or if you chase meta for competitive play or casual play. I play almost every fighting game at a semi-hardcore, slightly above average skill, SF6 is really good. If SF6 didn't exist, I would prob stick to Guilty Gear or Tekken tbh
One thing is for sure though. Only Street Fighter plays like Street Fighter. If you want that SF feel, you won't find an answer anywhere else. Maybe Tekken or Guilty Gear can be the one but... up to you
LMAO "Ken players don't care about the future" is so funny and so accurate. You can't condition them, because they're not paying attention to what you're doing at all. Truly playing in the moment
Smug was playing like he was terrified LMAO
The struggle was REAL!!! 😭😭😭😭
@@SMUGDaBeastI’m a Ken player. I’m definitely not Toxic. Maybe that’s why I’m a One Star Diamond 😂😂😂
Id be scared of the standing.hp too 😭
Because it's a modern Ken player.
Modern Ken are legit played by dudes who lost to their siblings
You're damn right. They don't care about a damn thing.
The peaceful mode of fighting games
@@XmanonlyJust like the character
those USB disconnect sounds made me check my own pc XD
Its nice to see Smug with a boxer again.
I agree!
Facts
Seeing this knocked a lot of edge off because I thought I was the only one had to deal with this annoying shit, and they be thinking they’re good players because the panic mashing works in their favor due to one button reactions
Fundamentals be dammed when you can mash cr.LP out of pressure
But if they are just mashing.. and you know that... why would you keep falling for it? 🤔
@@darrellwilliams1714 I don’t that’s why I win lmao. There’s a reason you see them lose. They just prolong the inevitable
@@darrellwilliams1714 you’re a Ken M in disguise aren’t ya
@@darrellwilliams1714 That's the game. There isn't an issue of "falling for it". Everything is negative so you can't really pressure mashers. The only frame traps are chained lights which don't do enough damage to deter anyone and drive rush to get plus frames is not safe if the other person wont stop slapping buttons. Even the worst players won't press after blocking a drive rush because everyone knows it's basically the only time they can't.
Thank you for continuing to bless us with streams and content smug! Keep up the good work
Man I empathize so much😂 Sometimes drive impact is hard af to check! Glad you're enjoying Ed though Duff city needs to come back👊🔥
Ken Mashers is his new legal name.
You know a Modern Ken doesn't have any thoughts in their head. 😂
Seeing the difference between your combos in the first set and the second is pretty staggering. I really need to start playing enough where I don't drop stuff in games, despite being able to do the combos just fine in training mode. It's so frustrating because I know I can do them
It's different when you have to remember while being attacked.
Honestly, playing against CPUs helps me a lot with that. You don't have the pressure of figuring out a thinking human being, but it's similar enough to a real match that you can start to develop the muscle memory, and situational awareness of when to go for the combo. Then, once you get comfortable with it, hop back online and it'll be much easier to land
Playing against a masher is the most frustrating thing ever. Especially against Ken Players... like I cannot remember the last time i played a ken that kept mashing DP or spam dragon dash hadokens out of neutral
This was the hardest match i've evet had to watch you play it actually annoyed me as if i was playing 😅
this was my Day 1 ed, vs a SEASONED KEN SPECIALIST!!! Give me time lol
@@SMUGDaBeast Yeah i figured as much bro but the DI spam was crazy, i'm good at defending against it but those players still infuriate me 😅
@raizen5371 the di spam annoys me to no end 😂
@@SMUGDaBeast Are we gonna get more yoshi wiggity washing in tekken 8 soon?
Love the content smug, you got me into sf5 (sadly) but you also made me a huge dudley fan! Love the content
Funny enough smug got me into street fighter as well granted I was terrible at sfv but I'm improved alot since then 😂
@@Narutofreak155 you bet, looking back I wish I had the skills I do now
@chilledchupacabra5317 ohh for sure man I was playing alot of ken and sakura in sfv and I remember how terrible I was never made it out of bronze lmaoo
16:14 his face had me weak😂
Bro the look on your face after the first game was priceless. Its my exact face when i lose to these Modern button mashing Kens.😂😂😂
If you're losing to people you just say are button mashing.. that's says more about you than them doesn't it?
@darrellwilliams1714 Did you not see Smug almost lose to a button mashing Ken? Players who mash or play Modern don't know what they're doing. And thus are more random and hard to pin down. You my friend are 💯 percent a button masher because only a masher would say something like that.
@@darrellwilliams1714so are you saying smug is bad?
@nicorobin7762 Nope. Smug is a good player. He's playing a new character against a scrub masher. Scrubs don't know what they're doing or why they're doing it which is why they're hard to pin down. They do random shit. Which is also why Smug almost lost.
@@kneelb4chevelle who the heck would be predictable on purpose? I use Classic and that still makes no sense to me.
Honestly, it's just the average experience when playing against a Ken
😂😂😂 8:43 to 8:57 when u fight a ken player n u go thru 3 different emotions in 14 secs
Great to see you, with your DUFF with THE GREATEST Of EASE!GO SMUG, Keep cooking!
With the greatest of difficulties
Glad to see the big man playing a boxer again.
(With the greatest of ease, no less.)
They heard not to flowchart, so instead they play so random even they're not sure what's going to happen. Basically my kryptonite as a person and relies heavily on pacing and reads to avoid being overwhelmed. My reactions are great... But only when it's in situations I can control and limit options for. These people disregard all of that and just monkey mode, flustering me and tanking my reaction speed.
This is when I just poke from like half screen and pray with Aki. With Lily I just run away, get charges, and bank off them not understanding her frame advantage with charges/meaties to land high punish damage.
That sounds like a smart player to me. Why would I play predictable as hell so you can just counter everything I do? That's why I play random lol
@@darrellwilliams1714being random is not a good strategy. say it works 40% of the time against a good player and you can catch them off guard. you are still not going to consistently beat them. they will adapt and you will lose.
SMUG with a boxer once more man. So cool to see
For me its the chun li players that are toxic. Usually they either tbag me or have so sht to say after the set 😐
Ken working hard as usual
Haven't gotten a chance to try out Street FIghter 6 yet (Purchased MK 1). Is Ken the Meta super villain at the moment? Every video I see showing a Ken player is met with either Fear, Anguish, disgust or some mixture of the 3.
Nah. JP is the real bitch
That first set was the most stressful thing I've ever watched 😭😭😭😭😭
Smug out here using Justin’s tactics. Learning from the best 😂😂😂
Which ones?
It be like that sometimes. Try using more of Ed's juke moves more. I'm telling you, you can get some pretty good mix up with his jukes. Also, you can juke backwards if you throw out one of your canceling buttons. Bob and weave, bob and weave lol.
Those who act like they are random and peak to never lose a match and those who act like they never struggle with an unusual gameplan. They are both capping. Sometimes you simply get steamed rolled by an unexpected flowchart.
It will work if your opponent is use to your current gameplan and you suddenly change to a total black from white spectrum.
7:35 I felt that. And now i dont feel so bad about myself.
That felt like capcom cup x grandfinals last match last round. I even got stressed out lol
I have a friend who plays excatly like this. The playstyle is soo annoying. However his playstyle help improve my punish combo and make the best out of it.
If they aren't annoying you by their style they aren't playing right. Lol I play like that for a reason. Shows me what I can n can't get away with. If you don't stop it I'll keep doing it until you stop me lol.
Seeing that 1st set made my anxiety level jump over 9000. I was " where are his AA's? HK works pretty good also. Nevertheless, I feel your pain sir lmao
Need to back to combo trials as well
Man you had your work cut out for you today good job smug for winning against ken to me you just gotta keep practicing more with ed because this character is a beast if you know how to use him properly
13:13 drive gauge recovery goes crazy
Well atleast they let Smug come back to Duff City just took till the third dlc character
Smug playing Ed like Dudley in USF4
The spirit of Dudley does not live on in SSmug anymore...
Just Subscribed SMUG! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Smug not to backseat, but Ed does have an AA. He also has some of the best tools, so go play "lame" to win with him.
I feel like this set of moves for Ken is a bot template that you encounter at all levels. Dragon lash ino jabs into DP. If that don't work dragon lash into throw. If that don't work cr MK into jinrai. If that dont work random DR or hadoken spam. It feels script-ish.
The “Ken on-line brasileiro” is 3x more masher
Why doesn't anyone use Ed's machine gun blow? Enlighten me pls
Ed just came out, don't worry, that move will be used more in future videos!
As a former ken main until Edward came back into my life. Yeah i agree, idk if its the fact hes blonde, rich, and kinda has that alpha chad vibe but yeah ken just turns me into an asshole in game with my friends lol.
Being a pressure player doesn't make u an @sshole. Just means you want to win lol. Best way to win is be unpredictable.
@@darrellwilliams1714unpredictable play is different than doing unsafe gimmicks every 5 seconds
Greasy Creasy got SMUG feeling fear for the DI
You can be in the best position with this character and brain fart. I love it and hate it
It's only a mash if it doesn't land, otherwise it's a read
All my homies hate Ken players🥊🥊🥊.
Ken can go somewhere else lmao 😂😂 💯🔥
A flowchart Ken. How do you feel accomplished playing that way?
Not all Ken’s are toxic like this guy but man he was desperate or wanted the “Welcome to Duff City” treatment
Not all Kens are toxic? Most Kens play like this because it works.
@@juice6521 yes not all Ken’s are toxic. If you think otherwise than you have a narrow perspective on playstyles
@darnell16player I'm sorry, you're right, not every Ken is plays like a gorilla. 90% tops.
Played sf6 online for the first time got matched up with a modern zangief and haven't played online since 😂
That modern controls wouldn't be so bad if they only had specials linked to them and not the mashing into combos with one button online. One of the reasons I stopped sf6 after Rashid dropped. Mk1 suffers from its own bs too sadly
About time I see videos about ppl mashing in Street fighter
Who was mashing though? Seemed the Ken knew when and where to do what. If he was able to give smug a run for his money, I wouldn't say he was just mashing.
@@darrellwilliams1714 u can tell if it's a masher or not that all I've seen Dimond and master Ken's do other then the ones on TH-cam I actually just got done fighting one they mash on your inputs no matter wat to get that small window to hit you 🤣
I hate fighting Ken.
Smug you gotta lab some combos homie. Just duff HP into DR into HK snatcher into back half circle HP.
Or Duff HP into DR into MP into DR again into Target Combo or and OD button.
His Cr MP is also Drive Rish Cancelable.
Ed is cool and all, but man we need dudley back asap.
Smug playing a 1M$ match against modern ken lol.
The amount of crazy non sense i have seen from players below 1700 MR:
1. Wake up Drive RUSH... i am Not shitting you. This happened when i was doing shimmy and suddenly dude decided to wake up DR... like how does that make any sense.
2. Wake up dragon slash... that left me speechless.
3. Neutral jump, land and Drive imact... wtf! are they thinking!?
4. Zangief users wake up SA1 thinking i would jump😂 - i can understand doing it one time, but this dude did it twice in 1 match (2 rounds). Why risking everything every time?
Finally the worst thing this week... 6 fu*king Ed in a row in rank... i rather play some ken, luke, jp these days.
Where are your combos Smuggles?? 😢
Totally agreed. Was Just playing one today. Still beat him though.
Smug.... this Ed.... AINT IT!....
And Ed players now it seems... I think you can get away with a lot in this game... unless you play the low tier characters that is.
Aye yo SMUG I got a combo I made up with Ed call it the dumb dunker I want to see if u can do it if u think u can
set yourself to 10 hp and have the bot Drive impact u LP,LP,DR,LP,LP,LP,LP,DR,LP,LP,LP,LP,Heavy Psycho Blitz in lvl 3 if done right it would take of 70% its dumb nut kinda work if not use medium instead
That ken is inspirational
Modern Ken im not impressed with this Ken 👎🏽
Over here acting like you won't get Shinryu Reppa'd
Players like that Ken are the worst type of player but theyre easy to stop. You just have to concentrate and slow their game down and they always fall apart
bet you never heard of flowchart kens
Please add captions
Drive Impact litteraly destroied the pottential of this game.. Even Chris Wong lost 1M to Random s#@ Drive Impact.
7:33 that must have made you salty
SMUG STILL PLAYING HORRIBLY. Can't get ANY COMBOS, DOESN'T MAXIMIZE DAMAGE, DOESN'T GET GOOD DAMAGE ON PUNISHES, this is crazy cuz he never does these things even when trying new characters. This character must be super difficult to use or he just needs a lot more practice than the usual
Ken players are toxic as hell especially in battle hub
Ken players are toxic. What else is new? Water is wet? This is Ken Fighter 6 my dude.
Modern Controls is what killed this game its an absolute joke
No offense to Smug, but it's cool to see someone using Modern controls and being pretty good with them. 🙂
Love your videos. 👍
Yeah modern players should be banned from ranked and tournaments ib my honest opinion. You can easily tell smug isnt being outplayed but rather that its an actual unfair advantage
I swear drive impact throws pisses me off.
I'm not gonna cap sfv Ed would dog sf6 Ed this Ed is nerfed a bit. Especially when it comes down to getting around blasts. Jp is a bad match up along with guile
It's been on 2 days relax
This not the boxer deserves…
Lowtiergod
how the fck is Smug diamond with Ed.....hes awful lmao. These ranks gettin easier all the time
wtf smug come on XD
Bro who ever this dude is don’t even think about playing or touching my character EVER again in your life. You got no combos, no frame data knowledge, and horrible special timing. If I were you I would just stay on the only fighting game u know which is brawlhalla
Cut him some slack. Ed's a fairly new character to sf6.
game so stupid they smash jabs and combo into super
Ken players don't deserve to eat.
life is all about choices, clearly we made the right one
toxic nothing. a lot of you simply are not good enough. i guarantee by april you people will complaining about another character.
I’m tired of fighting Ken’s in this game man. 🤣🤣🤣
This game sucks everyone knows it. People obviously playing for the money
Arretez de soulez avec ken , sur street 5 vous etiez content , va jouer avec tes deejay cheaté la
Can someone sponsor me a 10 psn ? Mom won't get me one
Im sorry to disappoint but I don't think I like fighting games anymore, they're kinda dead to me
Could you elaborate on what has made you change your mind?
yeah elaborate
I don't know how to elaborate too much but I only really liked USF4, other fighting games don't appeal to me, I played less than 10 hours of SFV, tried a bit of gg but it ain't my cup of tea. Never bought SF6, but I still play SF4 so I'd guess I don't like fighting games I only liked the game I like if that makes sense
@@MagicienYT I started with Street Fighter 4 too and I believe it is one of the best SF games out there. So we have a similar taste. SF5 was really bad, I am not sure when you played it but on release I would say it was a failure. If you played near the end of the game (it was OK). SF6 is an interesting mix of 3rd Strike and SF4 with a newer take on SF.
I don't know your skill level or mentality or if you chase meta for competitive play or casual play. I play almost every fighting game at a semi-hardcore, slightly above average skill, SF6 is really good. If SF6 didn't exist, I would prob stick to Guilty Gear or Tekken tbh
One thing is for sure though. Only Street Fighter plays like Street Fighter. If you want that SF feel, you won't find an answer anywhere else. Maybe Tekken or Guilty Gear can be the one but... up to you