I just pulled her as well. She shines super well on a dps build in siege with Jamire, water cookie. Still finding uses for her elsewhere, pretty happy with her could have definitely gotten worse ld 5 rng lol.
So just pulled this unit. First ld5 on my account, still pretty excited even if she seems kinda mid right now. I'm determined somehow to make her work...when I get better runes.
She doesn't have the protection and atk bar increase masha does. Not too similar but if you must compare masha is much better. I've tried her on my mashas build
The difference between 80% ignore and 100% ignore is about 2x damage sadly. You can see this with fire ezio etc. a lot of these ciris were built on hp% too since she does fine on tank runes
Dont forget that it's up to 80% def ignore based on the difference in speed. Hard to say what the scaling is but before stacking id assume like 20-30% is being ignored
i do feel like she doesnt do enough damage with speed without also building attack, shes got no sustain mechanics besides eventually taking more turns, but yeah the 80% only def ignore makes her S2 almost never cleave, but it is on a 2 turn cooldown so thats nice.
A good buff would be making her passive stack faster cuz anything else would make her family pretty busted. Doing 25k with no att buff no speed buff on def broken targets isn't bad in my eyes. Then she's scaling 2 different ways. She's getting faster than the whole field and she still be on vio. If they build her tanky to get the 10 stacks she won't do much damage but then they build her on damage and she two shots things then she doesn't stack the passive before the match is over.
Reminder that her second skill actually doesn't scale based on attack speed. It scales based on attack and ignores defense based on attack speed. She shouldn't be built only with speed but somewhat in between fast and strong, and her third skill doesn't state that it scales based on attack speed either. Conflicting unit sadly.
That puppeteer change is a lot better than I think people realize. It's like a 35 percent heal on skill one. That's kinda crazy especially with it being a skill one. It's just better riley s1. Especially on zenisek
that's not how the skill ups work. the "10% recovery" is 10% of the 15% heal she does, so at max her s1 heals for 18%. artifacts could be boosting it for sure though
@@jt-bp6en I mean it's definitely not just 18 percent it feels and looks about 30ish. But I do have a recovery artifact as well it's just incredibly good and a really good heal especially when you put them on revenge
Imho, the 2nd skill has no problem. The passive is problem. 1) Looks like the less hp left the less dmg she deals. I guess she needs bigger dmg multiplier regard to low hp and will just be fine. dmg multiplier from the passive is too weak. 2) As you said, no way she could stack her passive during fights, so stacks should arrive a bit faster(e.g. 25 per hit)
It would be broken af imo if it ignored 100% defence. Ya others do it with no condition but they also don't have a passive to add onto it. I'm not sure tho. I could be wrong
skill 2 ignored defense based on the faster you are than your oponents speed not scales damage off it.. and the passive hit scales off the enemies missing hp@@buttsaggington6379
think a lil to op 1 vio proc and thats +80 speed if u dont kill her instantly feel like she would get out of hand a lil to quickly and start almost lapping
10 hits to get to max stacks is too slow, I feel like they're gonna give her the fire monkey treatment where they're just gonna make her stack faster in the future, maybe 40 speed per attack
Or, crazy idea, we don't buff the LD5 to be a 100% defense ignore unit and keep her as a very fast bruiser who's already doing 21k without buffs on her s1.
Yeah thats what i thought. Shes already doing very good damage with under 5 stacks. By the time she does get 10 the timer will have ticked a bit and she will be one shotting everything even on bruiser build
I've watched strategies ect.. maybe it's my runes? Idk ive watched content on runes strategy ect.. and I'll get to fighter 2 then get decimated back down
It can be rune quality monsterbox and most important pick and ban phase dont to forget some matches are just pure rng and if you have bad rng you can loose that match
Cant wait til Camillo comes out 😂
Watching your videos on 2x speed is actually incredibly entertaining
I just pulled her as well. She shines super well on a dps build in siege with Jamire, water cookie. Still finding uses for her elsewhere, pretty happy with her could have definitely gotten worse ld 5 rng lol.
Person: Picks leo
Light Ciri User: Yep that's a Perm Ban
i have light ciri aswell, seems like a fun unit but more bruiserstyle where she will belong
can you do a cark ciri spotlight!? i just got her and she seems pretty decent
So just pulled this unit. First ld5 on my account, still pretty excited even if she seems kinda mid right now. I'm determined somehow to make her work...when I get better runes.
Same here. Just got her 2 days ago, first ld5
MY BOY RIGALDO 💪💪💪
Feels very Masha. One proc and she can delete a unit first turn. Already good imo. Her damage is fine
She doesn't have the protection and atk bar increase masha does. Not too similar but if you must compare masha is much better.
I've tried her on my mashas build
What if we add an Stack of the passive on beginning of her turn. So she could get 2 Stacks per turn. (if she attacks)
Made it into a Jewbagel video after pulling my first LD5, i can die happy now 🫡
Dont die, your LD need u
Yo I pulled her too! Really cool unit for first LD5, happy for you 😄
Hopefully you weren't the one fighting me with my new ld5 and curb stomping me, lol
If you die I have dibs on your account
You are the chosen one.
The difference between 80% ignore and 100% ignore is about 2x damage sadly. You can see this with fire ezio etc. a lot of these ciris were built on hp% too since she does fine on tank runes
Leo: Hold up😋
I just notice this just now. Is there any summoners war original unit equivalent to Witcher collab???
Daddy bagel this is indeed a not so good, not so bad L&D 5✨️ mob
Dont forget that it's up to 80% def ignore based on the difference in speed. Hard to say what the scaling is but before stacking id assume like 20-30% is being ignored
At 7:30, her bonus attack didn't crit, which is probably why she didn't one shot the Juno.
Still waiting for the wind ciri 😅
i do feel like she doesnt do enough damage with speed without also building attack, shes got no sustain mechanics besides eventually taking more turns, but yeah the 80% only def ignore makes her S2 almost never cleave, but it is on a 2 turn cooldown so thats nice.
A good buff would be making her passive stack faster cuz anything else would make her family pretty busted. Doing 25k with no att buff no speed buff on def broken targets isn't bad in my eyes. Then she's scaling 2 different ways. She's getting faster than the whole field and she still be on vio. If they build her tanky to get the 10 stacks she won't do much damage but then they build her on damage and she two shots things then she doesn't stack the passive before the match is over.
Reminder that her second skill actually doesn't scale based on attack speed. It scales based on attack and ignores defense based on attack speed. She shouldn't be built only with speed but somewhat in between fast and strong, and her third skill doesn't state that it scales based on attack speed either. Conflicting unit sadly.
That puppeteer change is a lot better than I think people realize. It's like a 35 percent heal on skill one. That's kinda crazy especially with it being a skill one. It's just better riley s1. Especially on zenisek
that's not how the skill ups work. the "10% recovery" is 10% of the 15% heal she does, so at max her s1 heals for 18%. artifacts could be boosting it for sure though
@@jt-bp6en I mean it's definitely not just 18 percent it feels and looks about 30ish. But I do have a recovery artifact as well it's just incredibly good and a really good heal especially when you put them on revenge
Dark hell lady who shall remain nameless… ohhhhh I get it
So it's a worse Narsha ?
Hey I have a question how should I build her I just got my first LD nat five Ciri. Just wanna know how to build her .
Swift SPD CD atk
Imho, the 2nd skill has no problem. The passive is problem.
1) Looks like the less hp left the less dmg she deals. I guess she needs bigger dmg multiplier regard to low hp and will just be fine. dmg multiplier from the passive is too weak.
2) As you said, no way she could stack her passive during fights, so stacks should arrive a bit faster(e.g. 25 per hit)
For a l/d 5 seems a bit mediocre. Fortunately for me I won’t have to worry about her getting a buff.
It would be broken af imo if it ignored 100% defence. Ya others do it with no condition but they also don't have a passive to add onto it. I'm not sure tho. I could be wrong
if all her skills scaled with speed it might fix her damage problem because s1 does well enough
they do
skill 2 ignored defense based on the faster you are than your oponents speed not scales damage off it.. and the passive hit scales off the enemies missing hp@@buttsaggington6379
Love you bagel 🥯
It takes way to long for her to stack the 200 spd too maybe 5 turns to stack additional 200 or would that be toooo op
think a lil to op 1 vio proc and thats +80 speed if u dont kill her instantly feel like she would get out of hand a lil to quickly and start almost lapping
Hi i would like one light ciri please
She's already good enough
10 hits to get to max stacks is too slow, I feel like they're gonna give her the fire monkey treatment where they're just gonna make her stack faster in the future, maybe 40 speed per attack
Or, crazy idea, we don't buff the LD5 to be a 100% defense ignore unit and keep her as a very fast bruiser who's already doing 21k without buffs on her s1.
Yeah. I don't see how that unit needs a buff. She does really good damage and has super good scaling, why would she need one-shot potential?
Yeah thats what i thought. Shes already doing very good damage with under 5 stacks. By the time she does get 10 the timer will have ticked a bit and she will be one shotting everything even on bruiser build
I pulled her and she’s really disappointing 😅At least she’ll be a cool storage guardian 😂
I thought it was a 4 star
I'm stuck in fighter rta help!
I've watched strategies ect.. maybe it's my runes? Idk ive watched content on runes strategy ect.. and I'll get to fighter 2 then get decimated back down
It can be rune quality monsterbox and most important pick and ban phase dont to forget some matches are just pure rng and if you have bad rng you can loose that match
Made a jewbagel video with my new ld5... getting curb stomped by the subject ld5... the shame
Probably not an rta mon
Water better
FIRST
She provides nothing except dmg, and the dmg is mediocre
i feel like they didn't make her ignore def 100% bc she has 4* counterparts 🫤