I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Stellar Teras were introduced in the same set that Crispin released, but I think it’s safe to say that Crispin will be remembered for enabling Dragons more than Stellar Teras
genuinely think the only two tera stellars that actively see competative play are Hydregion and Terapagos at my local tournaments, although I will say I have used Cyclizar before as utility, but that was a prerelease event. No-one uses Pikachu ex, acutally. Mainly bc Miraidon gets murked by the entire meta game there, with Ancient Box, Pidgeot Control, Raging Bolt and Charizard all being mainstays of the tournaments
To be fair, Stellar Tera isn't the greatest in the actual games as well. I mean I guess it's not bad for pure offense but Tera is best used there as a defensive maneuver, and Stellar Tera gives you none.
It's so cute on Serperior and Enamorus with their Contrary ability since it gives them a typeless move that just keeps ramping, but that's it's only use case and that's absolutely pathetic for something they tried to pass off as a new capital-T "Type"
Well not entirely, since certain pokemon like urshifu and chien-pao who hold the focus sash doesnt care about their defenses as the item guarantees a 2hko, so with stellar it can be used to pick up some important KOs, but regardless its still fairly niche
In the video game it's best used in tera raid battles, where all your attacks get the damage boost for as long as it's terastalized. In regular battles, including pvp, it's less useful.
They somehow made Delta Species 2.0 but with the energy costs similar to Crystal Pokemon. Definetly a mechanic meant for collecting bait. What a shame.
They needed to do more with it than they have. It feels they were afraid of having another GX or VStar withoit the restriction, so they kept it weak to a fault
For me, they called to mind the amazing rare cards that mostly saw play with Lugia V Star, which also had the gimmick of having attacks that needed 3 different energy types to attack
Great vid. My tin foil hat theory is that they wanted to print a multi-type special energy for these Tera types. The problem was Lugia Vstar would have abused it and become the best deck
they could have worded a card specific to teras but they didn’t even bother. i just hate that they failed to make the gimmick viable in any real capacity
@@joaovictorribeiro6408 I was talking about the non-full art ones, but now that you mention it, the white background is kinda grating (I still like the full arts tho, i think most of them look cool with the tera crown)
I feel like another big problem with these Tera Stellar Cards is the weird energy requirements for their attacks. Normally a strong ttack is 1-3 energy of of that pokemons type and maybe some colourless energy with the exception of dragons but now its 3 energy of differing types. It just doesn't sit right with me as these attacks may not even be that strong in some cases. However as a casual, they look cool as hell and I feel like these cards were 100% made for collectors.
I've been out of the game since the end of Sun/Moon. But for this, why didn't they just also release a multi energy? And I don't mean like rainbow, I mean like the blend energy from B/W era. I didn't mind having the different energy, but you gotta help us out a little. Also why not make Terra act like how it does in the game and have it be just a type change? Could have been like the delta species mons, like electric Charizard or grass Snorlax, which I loved so much. Would have been easy. Just make a cool EX version of the mon, have that terra built in bench protection, and make it a different type.
A couple reasons, we do have a rainbow energy in format with luminious, but it only works if no other special energy are attached. Beyond that, it seems like they have been hesitant to print better special energy due to lugia vstar still being in the format
Terra and stellar terra are different. Terras do type change like we have dark charizard fighting greninja etc. Stellar terras do not type change neither in in vgc nor in tcg. And all multi energy ideas are gatekeeped by lugia being broken
In the games stellar is a special "type" you terra into that keeps your resistences the same but instead boosts all your moves as opposed to any given type, but only once per type, incentivizing you to switch between them each round, hence the energy gimmick Terra into the "standard" pokémon types that you're describing was the gimmick the expansion before this one and worked literally exactly as you described, making them type-switched ex pokémon with bench protection Stellar is wonky, that's for sure, but if you, as you admit, don't know much about the new games please at least do one google before making suggestions 😭
The thing is that they printed the anti-plasma kyurem right before printing the stellar tera mechanic, if they didn't do that we might have seen a few of these (other than pikachu) as tech includes in lost box. Lost box is the only deck that can realistically power up a stellar tera. it's actually pretty good at it though with mirage gate+pikachu EX being a legitimately good deck (though I hate Kyruem)
Kyurem was probably the biggest fumble of 2024, it made Regidrago way too strong, created a hard counter for a few cards that were not even broken and definitely made did more harm than good for the game
The first time I saw Lapras ex, I instantly knew it would be a stinker. Power Splash just screams "Chien-Pao ex at home", and Larimar Rain is just plain bad for a couple of reasons. First, it's an Energy accelerator... that requires Energy acceleration itself. What's the point? Second, it's an attack. Which means it ends your turn. Which means the opponent can just KO the Pokémon you accelerated that Energy to before you even get a chance to use the Energy.
I completely agree with this, and was more or less thinking the same things when I first saw this card revealed. It honestly might just have the worst stellar attack of any of these cards -- those attacks are already quite hard to get online to begin with, and only 2 of these cards are seeing play for those attacks specifically, namely Pikachu and Hydreigon. The former is only used as an attacker in lost box decks because they already play a variety of energy types in their decks to begin with, so they don't have too big of an issue, really, with getting Pikachu online -- it's honestly a bit of a shame that LZB is going to be rotating out, because that deck is one of the best enablers for these stellar tera ex cards. As for Hydreigon, the only reason why it even sees any play is because an attack that deals 130 damage to 3 different Pokemon your opponent has in play has the potential to be extremely devastating due to how many low HP Pokemon are in the format right now that are played as either support or to evolve up into an ex card, and being able to potentially combine it with Dusknoir to take out something with as much as 260 HP while also hitting 2 other Pokemon for 130 is incredibly scary if everything works out in your favor. ..................All of this is to say, of course, that while the stellar attacks these cards have can SOMETIMES be good under the right conditions, the fact that they need 3 different energy is going to make any one of them clunky to try to play at best. But as you said yourself, needing to accelerate energy to a card that you use to.......................accelerate energy to your other Pokemon in play is just BAD, and the fact that it ends your turn afterwards isn't doing this card any favors. Having said this, I was always a bit skeptical about how much potential these cards each have because of them needing 3 different energy types to play, I also kinda wonder if they will eventually find a deck that can actually take advantage of them like the amazing rare cards did when Lugia V Star was released
they are deliberately worse on purpose so that when all of the V and V star cards rotate out the power level of the whole game will actually go down by a pretty decent amount.
@BurtsPTCG this rotation we are actually loosing a huge number of very powerful pokemon as well as a ton of consistency cards, so at least initially the format will slow down, may or may not be the same way in 3-4 sets
as a hypercasual pokemon pocket player, it's cool to see how fleshed out the main TCG is. it's really cool to see how simple the game was to what it is now. in the main tcg, are things like dual energy and tri energy viable? or do you still typically wanna focus on one type/colorless types?
i wanna go back to like pre 2012 TCG when cards werent doing ~200 damage or more per attack and weren’t completely making every card that came before them irrelevant
I dunno if I'd call this "the worst mechanic" when Crystal Pokémon came before these in a similar fashion. Also, your sponsors always end with "Let's get back to the video"...when it's the end of the video! 😂
Dear The Pokemon Company, please just stop making cards with 3+ different energy type requirements for a single attack - it didn't work when Wizards of the Coast released Shining Pokemon, and it doesn't work now.
I don't think it's fully fair. We're living in a world where Stellars have been around for 4 months, and the video is reaching conclusions while they still have 2.5 years to shine. Rotation of some beasts (Drago, Raichu) and enablers will surely change the meta and might allow some of these bad boys to take prime spot. Out of available options, I'm thinking specifically about Pikachu ex, who by all means should be an attacking force soon. Sylveon was thrash for now, but with more Eeveelutions joining the party (specifically Eevee ex and Espeon ex) it might see legitimate usage. Terapagos will have to switch to Rainbow Engine with the rotation of DTE, and thus Opal Crown will ore than less likely be a force. With what Raging Bolt and Hop's Zacian could do soon, Terapagos's Stellar Attack might be very necessary to keep the meta healthy. Jolteon, Flareon, Glaceon and Leafeon each offer great utility, also due to their powerful finishing blow Stellar Attacks. If a deck based around them comes up, it would surely go for a rainbow engine. Hydreigon is not dead yet. Although it hasn't seen much competitive success, the deck still waits for an idea of how to build and shape it. I wouldn't count it out yet with the format slowing down, and the potential for it to prey on small HP basics and Stage1s.
I think the main reasons why Stellar Tera Pokémon are flopping is because the current format consist on quick energy acceleration. Only decks with reliable energy acceleration are meta. Another thing that ruins most Stellar tera Pokémon is the inexistent synergy between its first and second attack. For example: Galvantula ex. Pikachu ex (SSP) is probably one of the worst offenders. Its attack costs a lot, it has no fully electric type attack, it has low HP, its ability doesn't help it to accelerate energy or change the attack's energy cost, and you have to recharge it every turn because it discards 3 energies to attack
Tera stellar is still new. I wouldn't say it failed, but it is absolutely disappointing. Ceruledge ex is the best because of its first attack, like how the new Flareon ex can be great in a Flareon ex deck. Galvantula ex stinks because the Jotik you want to use will get one shot by almost everything. Galvantula ex item lock gets outclassed by Banette ex and now Budew. I believe the best Stellar Tera Pokémon will be Hydreigon ex. I do wish it was a better mechanic, but I'll give my final verdict once VSTAR leaves the format.
i built a cinderace ex deck and the biggest issue is the manaphy that stops bench sniping you mentioned (i think there's a jirachi that's just a slightly worse manaphy) and the fact it's a stage two since the single prize terapogos helps tera pokemon set up their attacks easier and the aforementioned ace spec tool card made for tera pokemon. but for a casual deck to play and have fun with it's not bad just a little slow
Flareon in prismatic evolutions is pretty decent. Going second with SSP Eevee who can evolve on turn 1 while having a single energy in hand and Arven, you can use its Burning Charge attack by attaching the energy to the eevee, then using Arven to search for Tera Orb + Sparkling Crystal. You tera orb for Flareon, evolve the Eevee to Flareon, and then you attach the Sparkling Crystal to Flareon. All this for 3 cards in your opening hand going second. This lets you attack on turn 2 for 130 damage and then you can attach any 2 basic energy to any pokemon you like, including Flareon to get the Stellar Attack for a decent 280 damage or to power up another attacker your deck might be playing. If you wanna play risky, you could theoretically not run any fire energy but still play this combination, but you risk the flareon ex or the sparkling crystal ending up as a prize card.
They are basically current day crystal pokemon. I have 2 issues with stellar tera, the first is it feels like this 3 energy attacks feel really underpowered for how difficult the cost is to actually get except for lost zone or they have drawbacks they should absolutely not have, maybe this one problem can change with a special energy as soon as Lugia rotates but battle partners is already fully spoiled and it has no such thing. The second issue I have with stellar tera is they started focusing on these instead of the actual coolest form of tera, which is type shifted teras which feel woefully under utilized and charizard was the only relevant one. Type shifted teras are the reason I like the mechanic so much in the videogame, giving you a lot of defensive potential and in the tcg it could have a lot of both defensive and offensive potential like having a second type attacker that uses your primary energy attack has a ton of potential but in practice being type changed is fairly bad since it hurts with accelerating energy.
With the help of Crispin or Sparkling Crystal, I feel like you can set up many of these Stellar Tera Pokemon pretty well (at least the first time around), but the fact that so many of them require you to discard all of those energies you worked so hard to build up make it very difficult to attack consistently throughout the game (and honestly other than Pikachu ex, most of those attacks aren't worth discarding all of your energies for it).
I'm having some fun with a Gholdengo, Terachu, Magneton deck. G-go starts out the game strong as both a draw engine and a relatively quick attacker who puts energy in the discard. I passively build up 1-2 Magneton on the bench while G-go attacks. Once G-go faints, I pop Magneton for instant 3 energy from the discard and surprise Terachu them in the late game. If it's a single prize deck, I focus on more G-go and less Terachu. Not the most competitive, but it's a lot of fun and can hit HARD by turn 2-3.
I think with Hydregion ex, you overlooked Crashing Headbutt. Easy to get out with the Neo Upper or a Crispin, and does an atrocious 200 for a dark and a colourless while milling the top three cards of an opponent's deck. Depriving them of cards consistently and dealing massive damage. I'd say it may just be the best Tera in the format atm
I mean is this pokemon trying to slow down the meta? Like if we think about it the v, vstars, and ex, are ridiculously fast to the point matches are going fairly quick so I wouldn't be surprised if they just watered down the next set and we will get more insane card near the end of tera pokemon.
I think the vanilla terapagos should have had prism charge as an ability instead of an attack just so you can have a good way of at least getting multi energy or just create a pokemon that has an ability that lets you put energy into only teras from discard
I personally think that the tera mechanic should have been done in the form of a set of tool cards. They'd change the typing of the pokemon it's equipped to as well as providing some sort of extra effect or attack or something.
Flygon’s tera attack absolutely WIPES terapagos area zero decks that keep 3+ sub 200 hp support ex cards on their bench. Probably one of the only tera attacks with big potential
Those pokemon with 3-type energy attacks always look so flashy, but historically very few of them have been good. At least this "mechanic" is hardly a "mechanic" in itself, it's just the pattern of the energy cost associated with the two attacks of these cards. The way I see, the percentage of "stellar tera" mons that are viable is like any other 2-prizer. Maybe they could've printed some better ones, but just like the other carts that are printed, all of them are very collectible, but very few are competitively viable. Perhaps they should stick with 2-type energy attacks at most for any card, or they could've made it so you only needed 2 of the 3 types, and the 3rd energy could be any type.
I do think the solution to make tera good is to print a double tera energy sort of card. Giving 2 types of energy to tera Pokemon or double colorless to regular Pokemon, also with some kind of drawback.
I think the big issue here is there's no explicit label for Stellar, so you need to be really really careful to not buff some things that really don't need the help. 2 types of energy to a tera [presumably on a non-ace spec, with some other drawback] doesn't sound too bad until you remember that Dragapult is a tera that would absolutely love that...
@@lumen8201 Dragapult is a issue on its own, the 2 energy cost was a mistake by Pokemon tcg part. Still, other teras are just as bad because of 3 energy costs. Greninja is one example. Since Dragapult is already good. Making other teras have a chance agaist it doesent sound like a bad idea, even if Dragapult becomes a little faster. Even so, on turn 3/4 you already have 2 energy on him anyway.
Alolan Exeggutor ex and Sylveon ex together make for a funny combo. Exeggutor can power up Sylveon and clear out basics while Sylveon can shuffle back evolutions.
After trying a bunch of these, honestly, the only ones that seem alright are Ceruledge and Cyclizar, though the former is barely even a Stellar Pokemon as its good attack is just 1 fire.
I know it's not competitive at all but I'm really enjoying the old Regis+Terachu. Convoluted to set up, can fall apart immediately, rotation kills it in a couple months, but it's really fun to have the rat charged up every turn (and sometimes Radiant Greninja to snipe the bench) Just curious, are those subtitles generated or something? There's some noticeable mistakes sometimes. Also, LARIMAR.
So, I’ll admit that I’m not a competitive player whose experience is TCGL Ladder, but I’ve mained both a Lost Box Cinderace deck and a Hydreigon deck, and honestly both have been pretty fun and decent. Hydreigon especially has been a really fun deck thanks to Neo Turbo and Crispin, even if it does lose hard to Ogerpon. I’ve had a disturbing number of games where I got a turn 2 Obsidian, and just won on the spot against evolution decks lol. Then with Cinderace, I’ve found the attacks not *that* difficult to get set up, and they do function pretty well if you can. Though it’s not an especially high power ceiling. That said, yeah. There’s a lot of awful Stellar Pokemon, though I wouldn’t quite say the mechanic as a whole failed. It’ll be interesting to see how things shake up post-rotation, once the last few V Pokemon and Manaphy leave, to see if anything like Hydreigon or Terapagos get to see play (Terapagos especially, since this is the kind of deck that gets better with more support)
Yeah or kind of boost 😭 think they backed themselves into a corner but not really differentiating them from normal Tera so any buff they made would of made Tera even more crazy 😭
I remember seeing the leaks of the first cards and praying it was a hoax! The theme with most of these is that they seem nice on paper, but it just doesn't work. The game is currently too fast to invest the time into getting most of these set up. Some of the Eeveelution Stellar attacks look cool in theory, but again, there just isn't really the support to get them set up quickly enough to be worth it. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't have high hopes. Looking at the prospective set list for Journeys together, doesn't look like we are getting any more stellar (or maybe even any more tera?) pokemon either, so this may go down as a dud mechanic...
Laminar Rain needs 3 energy to use. Therefore, it only needs 6/20 cards to be energy. It needs the deck to be 30% energy, not 50%. I don’t think Laura’s is great, but it’s not as terrible as you’re making it out to be. It’s not the worst idea they’ve ever had.
Lol, Sylveon ex disrupts hard right now, with it's _Angelite_ attack...including _Sparkling Crystal,_ _Crispin_ and _Luminous Energy,_ it's set up quickly.
@BurtsPTCG Granted, I only play online with it, and therefore my data isn't just three games. But either way, it's just a fun rogue deck, imho. Most good archetypes don't really care about Tera stellar rules, indeed
Eh actually, Miraidon during stellar crown used mewtwo ex Tera lighting for that because it was tandem unit searchable , Miraidon terapagos is it’s kinda own deck during stellar crown format
Stellar pokemon are kinda bad but some of the silliest deck centerpieces in format and for kids in middle school playing pokemon at lunch or after school would make some crazy pop off moments with their support that some for fun decks would kill for
I think Tera as a mechanic was done poorly. Its bench protection is nothing but boring. Its too passive, you cant build a deck around it, it invalidates a good chunk of new cards, its just no good. I thought it would be a cool addition to an archetype, like a new pokemon to offset a type weakness, or a shift in playstyle to throw the opponent off guard. But in most cases, the tera totally outclasses its counterparts, if it even had one to begin with. There are also very, very few support tera pokemon. Cornerstone Ogerpon EX and Skeledirge EX are the only ones that really come to mind for what i mean by that.
Should have made Sparkling Crystal a normal tool card and not an ACE-SPEC. Give it a cost or restriction, but right now, Stellar Pokémon are as good as Mega Pokémon without their corresponding Spirit Link.
The moves are just not impactful enough for 3 random different energy’s. Especially in the new Budew meta making searching much harder and less consistent.
@ I’m just getting back into the TCG after probably an 18 year break and even I can immediately see that there is no point to the moves. Ceruledge is the best example as it’s competitive and it deliberately NEVER used its 3 energy moves. It needs to be flipping nuts or just very strong but not punish you with not being able to attack. In Pokemon I think the search runs really well so it’s more about execution than being lucky and Bedue kind of ruins that from the few games I have played since launch of the new set. My Son loves the games too though because he just loves evolving and blowing me up :) Got to get him addicted at 6 years old to TCGs 😭
@ tbh I think Vstars aren't the best. They aren't as bad as Vmaxes, but they still have around as much HP as Tag Teams yet are only worth two prizes. I'd say they are the "least worst" compared to Tag Teams/VMaxes
Is it a coincidence that both in the video games and the card game stellar teras suck?😂 I recall a video of WolfieVGC explaining the exact same thing, but for the video games. Plus, Pikachu ex is the biggest flop I've ever seen in the TCG. It will be good for a second part of "biggest disappointments in the TCG" in a few years.😅
@BurtsPTCG those were pretty exceptional but most of them were unplayable , also the fact you would have to pass turn without a spirit link (some megas didn't even get them)
Reduces stage 2 hp by 30,so if used on the same turn as attacking with Pikachu ex is will KO 310-330 hp stage twos like Charizard and Gardevoir? Effectively reaching 330 exactly like I said 😂
Nah Exeg is strong!!!!!! Youre insane for saying what you said. Instant K.O Attacks are always worth. Even if you have to flip for it. Why on earth did they do that. People are actually sleep if they think that card sucks 😮
@@BurtsPTCG when rotation happens all we will have is Rasbca a stage 1, tera is still in the format i think it will be better then expected after tera rotates in 2 years
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Stellar Teras were introduced in the same set that Crispin released, but I think it’s safe to say that Crispin will be remembered for enabling Dragons more than Stellar Teras
Yeah! That probably helps to a certain extent but efficient dragons are much better for it 😭
Crispin has done nothing but help me play dragapult lol
Crispin gas
genuinely think the only two tera stellars that actively see competative play are Hydregion and Terapagos at my local tournaments, although I will say I have used Cyclizar before as utility, but that was a prerelease event. No-one uses Pikachu ex, acutally. Mainly bc Miraidon gets murked by the entire meta game there, with Ancient Box, Pidgeot Control, Raging Bolt and Charizard all being mainstays of the tournaments
To be fair, Stellar Tera isn't the greatest in the actual games as well.
I mean I guess it's not bad for pure offense but Tera is best used there as a defensive maneuver, and Stellar Tera gives you none.
Yeah it has flopped in vgc too 😭
It's so cute on Serperior and Enamorus with their Contrary ability since it gives them a typeless move that just keeps ramping, but that's it's only use case and that's absolutely pathetic for something they tried to pass off as a new capital-T "Type"
Well not entirely, since certain pokemon like urshifu and chien-pao who hold the focus sash doesnt care about their defenses as the item guarantees a 2hko, so with stellar it can be used to pick up some important KOs, but regardless its still fairly niche
In the video game it's best used in tera raid battles, where all your attacks get the damage boost for as long as it's terastalized. In regular battles, including pvp, it's less useful.
They somehow made Delta Species 2.0 but with the energy costs similar to Crystal Pokemon.
Definetly a mechanic meant for collecting bait. What a shame.
Fair assessment 😭
man i miss so much delta species
Nah, regular Teras are closer to Delta species than Stellar Teras are. Stellars are closer to Crystal Pokémon.
They needed to do more with it than they have.
It feels they were afraid of having another GX or VStar withoit the restriction, so they kept it weak to a fault
Yeah that seems accurate 😭
They're probably saving the annoying once per match mechanic for the megas
@@Emiturbinaand could you imagine an annoying dragapult mega😂
Legit my first though when hearing about these cards was "Oh god it's Crystal Pokemon all over again!"
Yeah im annoyed I didn't make that connection myself 😂 so similar!
For me, they called to mind the amazing rare cards that mostly saw play with Lugia V Star, which also had the gimmick of having attacks that needed 3 different energy types to attack
Great vid. My tin foil hat theory is that they wanted to print a multi-type special energy for these Tera types. The problem was Lugia Vstar would have abused it and become the best deck
Yeah that seems very likely 👀
So if you're right they can just do it any set anytime from today on, no?
they could have worded a card specific to teras but they didn’t even bother. i just hate that they failed to make the gimmick viable in any real capacity
It will come after rotation.
I also just don’t like the arts on the regular versions of the cards
Yeah that's fair 😂😭
Yeah. Hard to see it.
The white on all the cards is ugly, it doesn't match most of them
@@joaovictorribeiro6408 I was talking about the non-full art ones, but now that you mention it, the white background is kinda grating (I still like the full arts tho, i think most of them look cool with the tera crown)
Love the addition of the subtitles! One of your best-produced videos yet
Ayo I was hoping someone would appreciate it! Honestly wasn't too much of a hassle so will try to keep it up if I'm not super time pressed 🙏
2:09 hey those Guzzlord GX decks with 56 energy went hard
😭😂 This is fair :p
Guzzlord GX and Sandaconda were *the* high energy decks in their respective formats
I feel like another big problem with these Tera Stellar Cards is the weird energy requirements for their attacks. Normally a strong ttack is 1-3 energy of of that pokemons type and maybe some colourless energy with the exception of dragons but now its 3 energy of differing types. It just doesn't sit right with me as these attacks may not even be that strong in some cases. However as a casual, they look cool as hell and I feel like these cards were 100% made for collectors.
This is so true! Thry are stunning for sure 🙏
I've been out of the game since the end of Sun/Moon. But for this, why didn't they just also release a multi energy? And I don't mean like rainbow, I mean like the blend energy from B/W era. I didn't mind having the different energy, but you gotta help us out a little. Also why not make Terra act like how it does in the game and have it be just a type change? Could have been like the delta species mons, like electric Charizard or grass Snorlax, which I loved so much. Would have been easy. Just make a cool EX version of the mon, have that terra built in bench protection, and make it a different type.
All solid suggestions 😭
A couple reasons, we do have a rainbow energy in format with luminious, but it only works if no other special energy are attached. Beyond that, it seems like they have been hesitant to print better special energy due to lugia vstar still being in the format
Terra and stellar terra are different. Terras do type change like we have dark charizard fighting greninja etc. Stellar terras do not type change neither in in vgc nor in tcg. And all multi energy ideas are gatekeeped by lugia being broken
In the games stellar is a special "type" you terra into that keeps your resistences the same but instead boosts all your moves as opposed to any given type, but only once per type, incentivizing you to switch between them each round, hence the energy gimmick
Terra into the "standard" pokémon types that you're describing was the gimmick the expansion before this one and worked literally exactly as you described, making them type-switched ex pokémon with bench protection
Stellar is wonky, that's for sure, but if you, as you admit, don't know much about the new games please at least do one google before making suggestions 😭
The sun and moon era of the tcg was the best in quite some time
The thing is that they printed the anti-plasma kyurem right before printing the stellar tera mechanic, if they didn't do that we might have seen a few of these (other than pikachu) as tech includes in lost box.
Lost box is the only deck that can realistically power up a stellar tera. it's actually pretty good at it though with mirage gate+pikachu EX being a legitimately good deck (though I hate Kyruem)
Yeah that's a fair point!
Kyurem was probably the biggest fumble of 2024, it made Regidrago way too strong, created a hard counter for a few cards that were not even broken and definitely made did more harm than good for the game
The first time I saw Lapras ex, I instantly knew it would be a stinker. Power Splash just screams "Chien-Pao ex at home", and Larimar Rain is just plain bad for a couple of reasons. First, it's an Energy accelerator... that requires Energy acceleration itself. What's the point? Second, it's an attack. Which means it ends your turn. Which means the opponent can just KO the Pokémon you accelerated that Energy to before you even get a chance to use the Energy.
I completely agree with this, and was more or less thinking the same things when I first saw this card revealed. It honestly might just have the worst stellar attack of any of these cards -- those attacks are already quite hard to get online to begin with, and only 2 of these cards are seeing play for those attacks specifically, namely Pikachu and Hydreigon. The former is only used as an attacker in lost box decks because they already play a variety of energy types in their decks to begin with, so they don't have too big of an issue, really, with getting Pikachu online -- it's honestly a bit of a shame that LZB is going to be rotating out, because that deck is one of the best enablers for these stellar tera ex cards. As for Hydreigon, the only reason why it even sees any play is because an attack that deals 130 damage to 3 different Pokemon your opponent has in play has the potential to be extremely devastating due to how many low HP Pokemon are in the format right now that are played as either support or to evolve up into an ex card, and being able to potentially combine it with Dusknoir to take out something with as much as 260 HP while also hitting 2 other Pokemon for 130 is incredibly scary if everything works out in your favor.
..................All of this is to say, of course, that while the stellar attacks these cards have can SOMETIMES be good under the right conditions, the fact that they need 3 different energy is going to make any one of them clunky to try to play at best. But as you said yourself, needing to accelerate energy to a card that you use to.......................accelerate energy to your other Pokemon in play is just BAD, and the fact that it ends your turn afterwards isn't doing this card any favors. Having said this, I was always a bit skeptical about how much potential these cards each have because of them needing 3 different energy types to play, I also kinda wonder if they will eventually find a deck that can actually take advantage of them like the amazing rare cards did when Lugia V Star was released
Yeah all flash for no substance 😭
they are deliberately worse on purpose so that when all of the V and V star cards rotate out the power level of the whole game will actually go down by a pretty decent amount.
We will have to wait and see on that cause we all thought that after vstar initially came out and we thought after Vmax things would slow down 😂😭
@BurtsPTCG this rotation we are actually loosing a huge number of very powerful pokemon as well as a ton of consistency cards, so at least initially the format will slow down, may or may not be the same way in 3-4 sets
as a hypercasual pokemon pocket player, it's cool to see how fleshed out the main TCG is. it's really cool to see how simple the game was to what it is now. in the main tcg, are things like dual energy and tri energy viable? or do you still typically wanna focus on one type/colorless types?
There are some multi energy decks! Lost box and regidrago are the best examples but raging bolt plays 3 different energy!
7:56 "Stera Tellar" XD
Course one slipped through the net 😂
i wanna go back to like pre 2012 TCG when cards werent doing ~200 damage or more per attack and weren’t completely making every card that came before them irrelevant
1000 HP coming soon don't worry bro 😂
1000hp six prizer basic, quad tag team 😂
I dunno if I'd call this "the worst mechanic" when Crystal Pokémon came before these in a similar fashion.
Also, your sponsors always end with "Let's get back to the video"...when it's the end of the video! 😂
😂 I should fix that you are right!
People don’t buy and collect Pokémon cards to play the TCG they buy and collect Pokémon cards to turn into a hustle and make money
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Dear The Pokemon Company, please just stop making cards with 3+ different energy type requirements for a single attack - it didn't work when Wizards of the Coast released Shining Pokemon, and it doesn't work now.
Exsctly this 😭
I play a 3-energy type deck, but until now there isn’t any Stellar Tera Pokemon that has an attack that uses my 3 types. I want to abuse them lmao
😂😂
I don't think it's fully fair. We're living in a world where Stellars have been around for 4 months, and the video is reaching conclusions while they still have 2.5 years to shine. Rotation of some beasts (Drago, Raichu) and enablers will surely change the meta and might allow some of these bad boys to take prime spot. Out of available options, I'm thinking specifically about Pikachu ex, who by all means should be an attacking force soon.
Sylveon was thrash for now, but with more Eeveelutions joining the party (specifically Eevee ex and Espeon ex) it might see legitimate usage.
Terapagos will have to switch to Rainbow Engine with the rotation of DTE, and thus Opal Crown will ore than less likely be a force. With what Raging Bolt and Hop's Zacian could do soon, Terapagos's Stellar Attack might be very necessary to keep the meta healthy.
Jolteon, Flareon, Glaceon and Leafeon each offer great utility, also due to their powerful finishing blow Stellar Attacks. If a deck based around them comes up, it would surely go for a rainbow engine.
Hydreigon is not dead yet. Although it hasn't seen much competitive success, the deck still waits for an idea of how to build and shape it. I wouldn't count it out yet with the format slowing down, and the potential for it to prey on small HP basics and Stage1s.
Let's see then!
I suppose I would rather have a flopped mechanic then a broken one looking at you tag teams
Fair assessment 🙏
I think the main reasons why Stellar Tera Pokémon are flopping is because the current format consist on quick energy acceleration. Only decks with reliable energy acceleration are meta. Another thing that ruins most Stellar tera Pokémon is the inexistent synergy between its first and second attack. For example: Galvantula ex. Pikachu ex (SSP) is probably one of the worst offenders. Its attack costs a lot, it has no fully electric type attack, it has low HP, its ability doesn't help it to accelerate energy or change the attack's energy cost, and you have to recharge it every turn because it discards 3 energies to attack
Fantastic point actually!
Tera stellar is still new. I wouldn't say it failed, but it is absolutely disappointing. Ceruledge ex is the best because of its first attack, like how the new Flareon ex can be great in a Flareon ex deck. Galvantula ex stinks because the Jotik you want to use will get one shot by almost everything. Galvantula ex item lock gets outclassed by Banette ex and now Budew. I believe the best Stellar Tera Pokémon will be Hydreigon ex. I do wish it was a better mechanic, but I'll give my final verdict once VSTAR leaves the format.
We will see about flareon but I'm not holding my breath 😭
i built a cinderace ex deck and the biggest issue is the manaphy that stops bench sniping you mentioned (i think there's a jirachi that's just a slightly worse manaphy) and the fact it's a stage two since the single prize terapogos helps tera pokemon set up their attacks easier and the aforementioned ace spec tool card made for tera pokemon. but for a casual deck to play and have fun with it's not bad just a little slow
Causal for fun definitely!
Flareon in prismatic evolutions is pretty decent. Going second with SSP Eevee who can evolve on turn 1 while having a single energy in hand and Arven, you can use its Burning Charge attack by attaching the energy to the eevee, then using Arven to search for Tera Orb + Sparkling Crystal. You tera orb for Flareon, evolve the Eevee to Flareon, and then you attach the Sparkling Crystal to Flareon. All this for 3 cards in your opening hand going second.
This lets you attack on turn 2 for 130 damage and then you can attach any 2 basic energy to any pokemon you like, including Flareon to get the Stellar Attack for a decent 280 damage or to power up another attacker your deck might be playing. If you wanna play risky, you could theoretically not run any fire energy but still play this combination, but you risk the flareon ex or the sparkling crystal ending up as a prize card.
Let's see if it ends up doing soem metagame damage 👀
They are basically current day crystal pokemon. I have 2 issues with stellar tera, the first is it feels like this 3 energy attacks feel really underpowered for how difficult the cost is to actually get except for lost zone or they have drawbacks they should absolutely not have, maybe this one problem can change with a special energy as soon as Lugia rotates but battle partners is already fully spoiled and it has no such thing. The second issue I have with stellar tera is they started focusing on these instead of the actual coolest form of tera, which is type shifted teras which feel woefully under utilized and charizard was the only relevant one. Type shifted teras are the reason I like the mechanic so much in the videogame, giving you a lot of defensive potential and in the tcg it could have a lot of both defensive and offensive potential like having a second type attacker that uses your primary energy attack has a ton of potential but in practice being type changed is fairly bad since it hurts with accelerating energy.
All of this is accurate!
With the help of Crispin or Sparkling Crystal, I feel like you can set up many of these Stellar Tera Pokemon pretty well (at least the first time around), but the fact that so many of them require you to discard all of those energies you worked so hard to build up make it very difficult to attack consistently throughout the game (and honestly other than Pikachu ex, most of those attacks aren't worth discarding all of your energies for it).
Yeah this is very true 🙏
They kinda just gave up on tera Pokémon switching up types
Yeah i forgot to mention that!
I'm having some fun with a Gholdengo, Terachu, Magneton deck. G-go starts out the game strong as both a draw engine and a relatively quick attacker who puts energy in the discard. I passively build up 1-2 Magneton on the bench while G-go attacks. Once G-go faints, I pop Magneton for instant 3 energy from the discard and surprise Terachu them in the late game. If it's a single prize deck, I focus on more G-go and less Terachu.
Not the most competitive, but it's a lot of fun and can hit HARD by turn 2-3.
If your having fun that's the main thing!
I think with Hydregion ex, you overlooked Crashing Headbutt. Easy to get out with the Neo Upper or a Crispin, and does an atrocious 200 for a dark and a colourless while milling the top three cards of an opponent's deck. Depriving them of cards consistently and dealing massive damage. I'd say it may just be the best Tera in the format atm
I didn't talk about it because it is decent for sure but it's irrelevant to it's Tera stellar mechanic status😭
Flagon might be good when the Item Lock T-Tar comes out. Would be so toxic
Maybe maybe! I like Ttar so fingers crossed 👀
thank you so much for subtitles! it helps a lot :) thank you for the great content!
Glad you appreciated it! I will try do them when I'm not time pressed :)
They really said, "What if we did Crystal Pokemon again", and didn't change any of the things that made them bad.
Yep this is so true 😭
Mom can we have Crystal Pokémon
We have Crystal Pokémon at home
Crystal Pokémon at home
Dont worry about them ;p least they are valuable 😉
I mean is this pokemon trying to slow down the meta? Like if we think about it the v, vstars, and ex, are ridiculously fast to the point matches are going fairly quick so I wouldn't be surprised if they just watered down the next set and we will get more insane card near the end of tera pokemon.
That could be there plan 👀
I don't play Pokemon TCG but I was worried as soon as I heard "3 different types of energy"
Haha you know well :p
It's OK they are bad in the video game too, so it's good representation of the mechanic.
Haha guess that's fair😂
I think the vanilla terapagos should have had prism charge as an ability instead of an attack just so you can have a good way of at least getting multi energy or just create a pokemon that has an ability that lets you put energy into only teras from discard
Now that would of been interesting!
The level of production on this vid is wild. Instant sub!
Ayo appreciate you! Means a lot 🙏
I personally think that the tera mechanic should have been done in the form of a set of tool cards. They'd change the typing of the pokemon it's equipped to as well as providing some sort of extra effect or attack or something.
Now that would of been interesting!
Flygon’s tera attack absolutely WIPES terapagos area zero decks that keep 3+ sub 200 hp support ex cards on their bench. Probably one of the only tera attacks with big potential
Yeah and it's top attack is so good! I'm bullish in its future 👀
Those pokemon with 3-type energy attacks always look so flashy, but historically very few of them have been good.
At least this "mechanic" is hardly a "mechanic" in itself, it's just the pattern of the energy cost associated with the two attacks of these cards. The way I see, the percentage of "stellar tera" mons that are viable is like any other 2-prizer.
Maybe they could've printed some better ones, but just like the other carts that are printed, all of them are very collectible, but very few are competitively viable. Perhaps they should stick with 2-type energy attacks at most for any card, or they could've made it so you only needed 2 of the 3 types, and the 3rd energy could be any type.
Flashy for sure 😭
The scan sound effect sounds like a very sped-up Kricketune from the games.
Haha i never thought of that but it does yes 😂
I do think the solution to make tera good is to print a double tera energy sort of card. Giving 2 types of energy to tera Pokemon or double colorless to regular Pokemon, also with some kind of drawback.
Yeah a Tera energy would be AMAZING!
I think the big issue here is there's no explicit label for Stellar, so you need to be really really careful to not buff some things that really don't need the help. 2 types of energy to a tera [presumably on a non-ace spec, with some other drawback] doesn't sound too bad until you remember that Dragapult is a tera that would absolutely love that...
@@lumen8201 Dragapult is a issue on its own, the 2 energy cost was a mistake by Pokemon tcg part.
Still, other teras are just as bad because of 3 energy costs. Greninja is one example.
Since Dragapult is already good. Making other teras have a chance agaist it doesent sound like a bad idea, even if Dragapult becomes a little faster. Even so, on turn 3/4 you already have 2 energy on him anyway.
welcome back crystal pokemon 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Definitely seems that way huh 🤣😭
Alolan Exeggutor ex and Sylveon ex together make for a funny combo. Exeggutor can power up Sylveon and clear out basics while Sylveon can shuffle back evolutions.
Interesting actually!
After trying a bunch of these, honestly, the only ones that seem alright are Ceruledge and Cyclizar, though the former is barely even a Stellar Pokemon as its good attack is just 1 fire.
Cerluedge is decent!
nah terapagos is good, but you're also not using the stellar attack
Ceruledge goes good with gholdengo as a late game attacker when resources on the energy recovery are low
It does! But it being a Tera stellar is irrelevant cause you never use the raging amatyst attack 😭
@@BurtsPTCG this is correct 😆
Good for expanding the board for more draw engines like kirla, noctowl, and more dusklop lines. But then gets a bit clunky like you mentioned
Flygon's Reversing Storm wouldn't do damage through Safeguard Mimikyu. Flygon is an ex and the damage would be prevented. Am I missing something?
Yeah, I mean you would attack with flygon at promote mimikyu
It feels like they just didn’t like the mechanic and printed a ton of them anyways. Like it’s such a clunky attack cost.
Yeah seems accurate 😭
I know it's not competitive at all but I'm really enjoying the old Regis+Terachu. Convoluted to set up, can fall apart immediately, rotation kills it in a couple months, but it's really fun to have the rat charged up every turn (and sometimes Radiant Greninja to snipe the bench)
Just curious, are those subtitles generated or something? There's some noticeable mistakes sometimes.
Also, LARIMAR.
Its truly a spiritual successor to Crystal Type
Most definitely 😂😭
So, I’ll admit that I’m not a competitive player whose experience is TCGL Ladder, but I’ve mained both a Lost Box Cinderace deck and a Hydreigon deck, and honestly both have been pretty fun and decent. Hydreigon especially has been a really fun deck thanks to Neo Turbo and Crispin, even if it does lose hard to Ogerpon. I’ve had a disturbing number of games where I got a turn 2 Obsidian, and just won on the spot against evolution decks lol. Then with Cinderace, I’ve found the attacks not *that* difficult to get set up, and they do function pretty well if you can. Though it’s not an especially high power ceiling. That said, yeah. There’s a lot of awful Stellar Pokemon, though I wouldn’t quite say the mechanic as a whole failed. It’ll be interesting to see how things shake up post-rotation, once the last few V Pokemon and Manaphy leave, to see if anything like Hydreigon or Terapagos get to see play (Terapagos especially, since this is the kind of deck that gets better with more support)
Hydrigon definitely has potential, glad your making it work :)
Seems to me they need to design a scramble energy that exclusively works with the stellar Pokémon
Yeah or kind of boost 😭 think they backed themselves into a corner but not really differentiating them from normal Tera so any buff they made would of made Tera even more crazy 😭
I'm just sad they shoved in bench protection to all tera cards, and release Vaporeon with a bench attack. They did my girl so dirty..
Haha so true they set vaporeon up to fail 😭
I created a deck that use two Stella Tera Pokémon together and it allow me to win roughly 80-85% of my games on live and at the weekend league.
which ones?
Happy days! 🙏
I remember seeing the leaks of the first cards and praying it was a hoax! The theme with most of these is that they seem nice on paper, but it just doesn't work. The game is currently too fast to invest the time into getting most of these set up. Some of the Eeveelution Stellar attacks look cool in theory, but again, there just isn't really the support to get them set up quickly enough to be worth it. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't have high hopes. Looking at the prospective set list for Journeys together, doesn't look like we are getting any more stellar (or maybe even any more tera?) pokemon either, so this may go down as a dud mechanic...
Yeah i agree entirely! 😭
Using the Cyphermaniac card with cinibar lure works with lowering the odds
Fair point actually!
Laminar Rain needs 3 energy to use. Therefore, it only needs 6/20 cards to be energy. It needs the deck to be 30% energy, not 50%. I don’t think Laura’s is great, but it’s not as terrible as you’re making it out to be. It’s not the worst idea they’ve ever had.
I'm assuming that your active gets swiftly Ko'd after using laminar rain which it most likely will thanks to it's low HP 😂
Wonder if people were calling regidrago bad before mew rotated and we got a couple more dragons to push it's power home.
(I know they were)
Wasn't the dragons that pushed it over the line it was teal mask ogerpon to be fair 👀
Who is silazar?
Who? 👀😉
Flygon could use its second attack, if Tera Pokémon didn't have a built-in bench guard 😅
Yeah that's something I should of Brought up 😂😭 absolutely killer. Reverse thrust is still gnarly tho 👌
Lol, Sylveon ex disrupts hard right now, with it's _Angelite_ attack...including _Sparkling Crystal,_ _Crispin_ and _Luminous Energy,_ it's set up quickly.
Maybe so, but the only person in the world who has day two'd with it said it wasn't very good sooo 👀
@BurtsPTCG Granted, I only play online with it, and therefore my data isn't just three games. But either way, it's just a fun rogue deck, imho.
Most good archetypes don't really care about Tera stellar rules, indeed
Tpc be like:You guys will start crying when we implement tera energy
👀 I am listening cause that would be 🔥
Eh actually, Miraidon during stellar crown used mewtwo ex Tera lighting for that because it was tandem unit searchable , Miraidon terapagos is it’s kinda own deck during stellar crown format
No, I meant if any other decks wanted to use area zero they would use terapgos not miradon specifically 🙏
Lapras can accelerate special energy too!
It can! Shame it's still bulk 😭
@@BurtsPTCGtrue, but hopefully once lugia rotates we can get some good special energy again!
Stellar pokemon are kinda bad but some of the silliest deck centerpieces in format and for kids in middle school playing pokemon at lunch or after school would make some crazy pop off moments with their support that some for fun decks would kill for
That is 100% valid 💯
Don’t forget Milotic Ex exists!
Fantastic point my bad!
I think Tera as a mechanic was done poorly. Its bench protection is nothing but boring. Its too passive, you cant build a deck around it, it invalidates a good chunk of new cards, its just no good. I thought it would be a cool addition to an archetype, like a new pokemon to offset a type weakness, or a shift in playstyle to throw the opponent off guard. But in most cases, the tera totally outclasses its counterparts, if it even had one to begin with. There are also very, very few support tera pokemon. Cornerstone Ogerpon EX and Skeledirge EX are the only ones that really come to mind for what i mean by that.
Yeah i agree with this 🙏
Eeveelutions are either bad or mid too 🤣
Thought as much 😭😂
Hey Burt, you're at Birmingham now, right?
I am yes! Casting the event :)
Should have made Sparkling Crystal a normal tool card and not an ACE-SPEC. Give it a cost or restriction, but right now, Stellar Pokémon are as good as Mega Pokémon without their corresponding Spirit Link.
That is an accurate assessment!
If nothing else Stellar type having next to no impact on competitive play is true to the games at least.
This is very true 😂😭
The moves are just not impactful enough for 3 random different energy’s. Especially in the new Budew meta making searching much harder and less consistent.
Exactly this! 😭
@ I’m just getting back into the TCG after probably an 18 year break and even I can immediately see that there is no point to the moves. Ceruledge is the best example as it’s competitive and it deliberately NEVER used its 3 energy moves. It needs to be flipping nuts or just very strong but not punish you with not being able to attack. In Pokemon I think the search runs really well so it’s more about execution than being lucky and Bedue kind of ruins that from the few games I have played since launch of the new set. My Son loves the games too though because he just loves evolving and blowing me up :) Got to get him addicted at 6 years old to TCGs 😭
Stellar teras being both a mess in the games and the TCG is unfortunate
Shame cause I love colourful stuff 😭
Id agree it has been great, but zard and ogerpons being teras technically have been a huge success no?
They are Tera cards, not Tera stellar
@BurtsPTCG course it would hurt me to put this on in the morning and not listen My bad guy!
Hope you enjoyed Birmingham drip check was fire
Sonic peridot is awesome with neo upper energy as a backup attack
I agree 🙏
I’m guessing were forgetting about the actual worst mechanic, crystal pokemon?
Least they are valuable!
Terapagos did rather well this weekend.
This is true, Definitely not cause of crown opal though! So it being a Tera stellar was irrelevant 😭
I find it funny how Stellar Tera flopped in VGC and the TCG. Really shows how bad it is/it being made only as a gimmick
Yeah tough times all round 😭
PTCG mechanics have been underwhelming ever since Tag Teams were released.
Why’s that
I liked vstar personally
@ tbh I think Vstars aren't the best. They aren't as bad as Vmaxes, but they still have around as much HP as Tag Teams yet are only worth two prizes. I'd say they are the "least worst" compared to Tag Teams/VMaxes
@Tag Teams, Vmaxes, and now Tera have been imbalanced cards.
Ex pokemons and Basic pokemons are way more fasters and even if you use one tera pokemon probably gonna use low cost attack
Yeah exactly this 😭
They need a type to counter fairy
Does metal not do that already? 👀
More like a type to counter dragon
This is just Dragon types with extra steps.
Yeah fair assessment!
I can’t be the only one getting these insane gooner ads
Goodness that doesn't sound good 😭
Is it a coincidence that both in the video games and the card game stellar teras suck?😂 I recall a video of WolfieVGC explaining the exact same thing, but for the video games.
Plus, Pikachu ex is the biggest flop I've ever seen in the TCG. It will be good for a second part of "biggest disappointments in the TCG" in a few years.😅
Haha yeah it's pretty tragic in vgc too! 😭
Biggest slop was mega evo
That's a hot take 👀 mega ray, Man, Groudon, mewtwo Y, garde sts were huge standouts 👀
@BurtsPTCG those were pretty exceptional but most of them were unplayable , also the fact you would have to pass turn without a spirit link (some megas didn't even get them)
I have enjoyed playing stellar attacks... I am in no way a competitive player
Oh they are super fun for sure!
Love Galvantula 😍
Is one of the coolest cards on this list!
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18:45 i think you might need to reread what Gravity Mountain _actually_ does
Reduces stage 2 hp by 30,so if used on the same turn as attacking with Pikachu ex is will KO 310-330 hp stage twos like Charizard and Gardevoir? Effectively reaching 330 exactly like I said 😂
@@BurtsPTCGwow, the terrible card quality on the screen made it so I read it as +30 HP instead of -30 HP. My mistake, carry on.
Nah Exeg is strong!!!!!! Youre insane for saying what you said. Instant K.O Attacks are always worth. Even if you have to flip for it. Why on earth did they do that. People are actually sleep if they think that card sucks 😮
What happens if your opponent has all evolution pokemon in play?
Your going on about a few specific cards.
So it hasn't really.
Charizard ex literally won world champions lmao
Charizard is a Tera pokemon. I am referring to the tera stellar mechanic here.
When charizard won world championship? In your dream or something
I think these cards were only designed for collection. Big middle finger to you scalpers.
Aha that does sound possible! 😂
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I like your content dude, and this was a fine video overall. But really? WORST? You gotta admit that's just clickbaiting.
I'm ab testing a few different titles
does this guy work for pokémon?
No, I just commentate some tcg events. Like LAIC and worlds last year :)
bench snipe damage is huge, i dont know what your talking about that its the worst.
When manaphy is in every deck and you cant even use it against an all Tera bench? 😂
@@BurtsPTCG when rotation happens all we will have is Rasbca a stage 1, tera is still in the format i think it will be better then expected after tera rotates in 2 years