using tb 3 is it possible to change bass line pattern not from presets included but by writting the pattern by ourselves when playing live at the same time having variation in melody? by the way nice perfomance
I have been listening to a few of your videos for a while and I can say you have a nice groove and flow to your set up .been in the game for a long time and its good to see this style of music.
Perfect ...... Awesome ....... Beautiful Smooth Soft Sound ...... Try to make the twitter a little smoother and a little quieter ......., it will sound professional recording studio $$$$$$ ........
I prefer the Avalon to the Roland TB-303, but I can't get one so I've been looking for a similar sound. I think the Roland Aira tb-3 is up there. Sounds cleaner if that makes sense. I'm going to buy one for sure. Can you run the Aira tb-3 through fx pedals?
Erica Bassline is my fav. Yes you can run through pedals. Also the Behringer 303 is good too and I would rather have that to be honest. Aira has a few chord patches which is interesting.
@@ObscureMachines You know I've overlooked the Erica Bassline, I literally just went and took another look and it is an amazing bassline synth. I'd seen a few earlier videos and didn't get that vibe. But you inspired me to check it out again. The perfect match as I'm after buying a Erica Perkons HD-01 anyway. The Roland Aira tb-3 could be another good option though as, I have a Roland TR-8s. I can sync it to that. Cheers bud 👍
love this jamming. how to use Aira gear (tb-3&Tr-8) work with Albeton live together ? How to sync a metronome with the same time ? .Sorry for my english. thnaks
This song made me buy the tr8 and tb3. I absolutely love it. One question though: how can you put a high/low pass on that lowest row on you launch control when in Factory mode? Right now i made a custom filter on my User bank for the the kick from the tr8 etc but it sucks when switching between User and Factory
What are the sources of the effects? They sound fantastic. I just ordered a TB-3. I'm excited for it's arrival. After listening to your videos, I'm now considering the TR-8 as well. Thinking about selling my Volcas and getting one of those (though I love my little volcas). Another great jam. Thanks for sharing.
Matt Greer The effects are just sends to Ableton's stock reverb and simple delay plugins, the master bus is also sending to those plugins, so it actually feeds back a little bit giving it that really long deep sound. Yes, I highly recommend the TR-8, it's my favorite out of the bunch.
TR8 can't use samples, but the TR8S can. I likely used the USB output to individual channels in Ableton and sculpted the existing sounds which can make a big difference in departing from the stock sounds if they are getting old. In one video I did use drum replacement, but in realtime the latency proved to be too much so I didn't continue doing that. The best part about the TR8 is how quick it is, and if instead of selling it and buying another machine, try to squeeze out of it what you want in the stock sounds. You can go surprisingly far by making it do things it's not meant to do. That's where the magic happens with all of this stuff.
Impressed at your genre flexibility as always. In the final stages of version 3... maybe 4 technically of remodeling my studio. Thoughts on Launch Control XL with TR8 & TB3? I'm going to have to watch again (closely) to get a handle on how you're integrating the Launch Control. What's your philosophy with it (the XL) in general. I have the Launchpad, Launch Control and the XL, but I haven't even cracked the XL out of the box- studio refurbished and remodeling is taking up all my time. I assumed I'd hook the XL to the Launchpad.... but may even not. Your perspective?
My rule of thumb is if it makes things easier, and is fun to work with then use it. When you get bored or find something else that does things better, then sell and move on. So in this particular video I just used the Launch Kontrol with Ableton to control reverbs and filters, possibly just one track for the TR-8 and one for the TB-3. I didn't do individual drums via USB because the setup I had at the moment had crazy latency which wouldvbe been: TR and TB out to USB > into Live > out of Live to analog mixer > out of mixer > back into Live...so it wasn't really an ideal setup. Probably the most important thing is how you approach your workflow. For example: I wanted reverb and filters, so I had to integrate Live. Then I wanted to control those things, so I added the Launch Kontrol. Need first, then fill the need. That works better than I have a piece of gear, let's work it in. Then you end up with lots of cool gear that you don't use cause you can't figure out how to work it in. Those are just some of my ideas...let me know how it goes!
Thanks for the detailed reply! I read you loud and clear. The amassing gear is a problem for me, even though I do sell anything I do not enjoy or doesn't make life simpler. I tend to keep the less expensive stuff around, and building a place for all of my gear has been a fun process that is pretty much a totally separate woodworking, speaker building, and DIY electronics hobby meld... that let's any piece of gear within reach and able to be used via patchbay if it is analog. I built a monster PC that can handle many audio and MIDI signals via analog or USB for either, but the routing for actual play will only be 3 or 4 sources with effects. I am not smart or good enough to make anything sound good after 3 or 4 pieces of gear pushing out noises. But I did build a technical wonder that can handle anything being turned on and played with little effort as far as making sound come out of the monitors, to a computer at least as part of a mix, (if not a track,) or to a stereo recording. It has been a challenge and kinda sucked when I had to unhook gear and go silent while major desk, rack and shelving was built... but I am glad I did it. I'll keep watching and maybe when I have something worth sharing, I'll set up a camera too. Keep up the AIRA stuff! It's my favorite.
Here's one more question- if you're up for it. What are you using in Ableton as far as a device(s?) to talk to the TR-8. I have downloaded a bunch and only one has worked well. I figure there might be another out there I am not seeing.
How do you get that tr8 into that groove ? When i Programm my tr8 like you did it doesnt even comes close to that Flow . even with shuffle it is sounding much more static...
Thanks for the comment and listening so intently. So here are some things I've picked up over the years as a drummer that might help you out. 1. Drop and accent on 1, 3, 7, 11, 15. This will give your kick a boost on the one (it's all about the one - George Clinton), and your 16th hats and open hats a boost on the upbeats. 2. You need to swing just a little. Very subtle. Maybe 52-54 somewhere in there. Not too much though. Just enough to add an almost subconscious subtlety to the beat. 3. Lastly, on all of my vids I always dropped the master track into Ableton with an EQ, Glue compressor (SSL 4K emulation), and a Limiter on the master. EQ just low cut 40 and high cut 18k. Maybe a little bump in the lows, cut a little in the 100-200 range, and a few bumps in the mids and highs. For the compressor, you want the kick to trigger the compressor to give the track a little bounce. Again super subtle, maybe just a few db of reduction. Makeup gain 2-3db and soft clip on. Then a limiter to bring it up to full listening volume. All of that should help you out. I think the biggest difference makers are going to be the accents and the compressor to give you some bounce. All of this stuff is subtle, but add it up and you have a nice result. Hopefully, that helps! Let me know how it goes!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, so the synth is primarily the TB3. Launch Control is just mapped to reverb and delay send and maybe a filter in Ableton, but that’s it. All of my Aira videos were made with the sounds from the machines themselves!
@@ObscureMachines Wicked, really nice sound man. I'm deffo a fan of musicians who get different sounds out of the tb3 instead of the stereo typical squelchy 303 acid bass as it can make some really nice sounds but most people seem to use it strictly for acid leads or basses (which theres nothing wrong with, but I wanna hear what else they can do lol).
@@h-dawg969 Ya man I would have to agree. I started with the typical acid sounds and honestly just kinda got bored and needed something else. Which was cool cause the TB3 had other sounds to offer. Through the years I've found that often the coolest and newest sounds come from doing more with less. Diving deeper into a single machine instead of getting a new one to solve a specific problem is where the magic happens as you may already know! Anyways, thanks for the chat dude!
Excellent work! Very minimalistic! :-) (Brief question: So there's no sounds - VSTs or Samples - from Ableton; just the Aira gear plus some Ableton effects controlled via LaunchControl?)
+Petrus Barbatus Berolinensis Correct. FX If I remember correctly it's just stock reverb, delay, autofilter on the master, possibly effectrix. All the sounds are just the hardware.
Wow what a great performance. Excellent choice of the sounds. Did you run the different sounds of the tr-8 in separate tracks via usb into the daw? For me the kick sounds very processed. Or did you just processed the master bus? Cheers:)
+superdisco101 Individual outs via USB...there was actually an awful amount of latency cause I went USB to DAW to an analog mixer back into the DAW. Not necessary....keep it simple
Nice work! How did u get ableton to sync so well with the hardware? Just USB midi, or undid something else? I gave up using software for live cos of syncing issues
Thanks! In this case the TR-8 is clocking the TB-3, and Ableton is just an fx box so it's not synced at all. The delay times were set by ear in ms. Next time I'll sync everything and use the USBs. I'll make a video for that too.
I used the LC to control effects in Ableton. If you can control TR8 parameters you’ll need a midi host to run standalone LC like the Kenton usb midi host and map parameters on the LC
Thanks dude, no clips in this one, all sounds are from the machines. However, there's lots of reverb and delay from Live, and the Novation is just mapped to the sends, hipass filters, and the volume faders. So Live is just an effects unit in this one really. I should take advantage of launching some clips though...
Obscure Machines Ah I see, good call. I'm about to pick up a TR8 next week so I think I'll grab Touchable on the iPad and see what I can do with clip triggering.
I really love the sound you got out of the TR-8 sounds very rich. Are you running it through anything else, filters anything on the laptop. Or is it just the stand alone presets on it?
Yeah, from what I remember there was some EQ on a few channels to clean up the low end, and some EQ, Glue, and Limiter on the master. The main thing though is the Ableton reverb and delay send as well as Effectrix on the master too. That's about it though. Main thing is the reverb and delay.
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using tb 3 is it possible to change bass line pattern not from presets included but by writting the pattern by ourselves when playing live at the same time having variation in melody?
by the way nice perfomance
Very nice, the groove with the TB-3 is great !!!! You have a good feeling to do this...
Thanks!
I have been listening to a few of your videos for a while and I can say you have a nice groove and flow to your set up .been in the game for a long time and its good to see this style of music.
Perfect ...... Awesome ....... Beautiful Smooth Soft Sound ...... Try to make the twitter a little smoother and a little quieter ......., it will sound professional recording studio $$$$$$ ........
Your Style absolutely floats my Boat. Will get my Hands on some similar kit in the next Weeks. Love it, keep going :)
Thanks man, I appreciate it! Yes, please post videos and share your work when you do!
I enjoyed that mate. That was worth the 7 trips and cup of tea 😎
I prefer the Avalon to the Roland TB-303, but I can't get one so I've been looking for a similar sound. I think the Roland Aira tb-3 is up there. Sounds cleaner if that makes sense. I'm going to buy one for sure. Can you run the Aira tb-3 through fx pedals?
Erica Bassline is my fav. Yes you can run through pedals. Also the Behringer 303 is good too and I would rather have that to be honest. Aira has a few chord patches which is interesting.
@@ObscureMachines You know I've overlooked the Erica Bassline, I literally just went and took another look and it is an amazing bassline synth. I'd seen a few earlier videos and didn't get that vibe. But you inspired me to check it out again. The perfect match as I'm after buying a Erica Perkons HD-01 anyway. The Roland Aira tb-3 could be another good option though as, I have a Roland TR-8s. I can sync it to that. Cheers bud 👍
Thanks!
Good vibe and sound...
Awesome work! I mostly finger drum beats on my channel but i definitely want to do live sets as well.
That was fantastic!! Nice work Tommy.
Thank you!
love this jamming. how to use Aira gear (tb-3&Tr-8) work with Albeton live together ? How to sync a metronome with the same time ? .Sorry for my english. thnaks
Noppawat Wattanasuk No sync with Ableton. I just use the effects and set the BPM at 128 for the delay.
Awesome Music!
Lovely work on the new gear!
This song made me buy the tr8 and tb3. I absolutely love it. One question though: how can you put a high/low pass on that lowest row on you launch control when in Factory mode? Right now i made a custom filter on my User bank for the the kick from the tr8 etc but it sucks when switching between User and Factory
Not sure that you can. In this video I was in user and maybe used 4 knobs mapped to verb and delay. Keep it simple!
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Very very nice
Thanks for watching!
Pretty good track 👍
Music like this is what makes me stay up and work on my computer till 3am lol
Haha awesome! Thanks for listening!
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Alex Strunz Thanks dude!
Alex Strunz Whoa you do a lot with that little Electribe! Very impressive!
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Very nice work mate!
MrOmegaJohn Thanks!
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Can't wait to own the lot.
guidelineuk Thanks! Be sure to post some videos!
What are the sources of the effects? They sound fantastic.
I just ordered a TB-3. I'm excited for it's arrival. After listening to your videos, I'm now considering the TR-8 as well. Thinking about selling my Volcas and getting one of those (though I love my little volcas).
Another great jam. Thanks for sharing.
Matt Greer The effects are just sends to Ableton's stock reverb and simple delay plugins, the master bus is also sending to those plugins, so it actually feeds back a little bit giving it that really long deep sound. Yes, I highly recommend the TR-8, it's my favorite out of the bunch.
im thinking of selling my Tr-8 because i still didnt figure out how to use your own samples with this xD
TR8 can't use samples, but the TR8S can. I likely used the USB output to individual channels in Ableton and sculpted the existing sounds which can make a big difference in departing from the stock sounds if they are getting old. In one video I did use drum replacement, but in realtime the latency proved to be too much so I didn't continue doing that. The best part about the TR8 is how quick it is, and if instead of selling it and buying another machine, try to squeeze out of it what you want in the stock sounds. You can go surprisingly far by making it do things it's not meant to do. That's where the magic happens with all of this stuff.
since you have the xl lunchpad your mix is much better now
;) ;)
this is awesome!!
Impressed at your genre flexibility as always. In the final stages of version 3... maybe 4 technically of remodeling my studio. Thoughts on Launch Control XL with TR8 & TB3? I'm going to have to watch again (closely) to get a handle on how you're integrating the Launch Control. What's your philosophy with it (the XL) in general. I have the Launchpad, Launch Control and the XL, but I haven't even cracked the XL out of the box- studio refurbished and remodeling is taking up all my time. I assumed I'd hook the XL to the Launchpad.... but may even not. Your perspective?
My rule of thumb is if it makes things easier, and is fun to work with then use it. When you get bored or find something else that does things better, then sell and move on. So in this particular video I just used the Launch Kontrol with Ableton to control reverbs and filters, possibly just one track for the TR-8 and one for the TB-3. I didn't do individual drums via USB because the setup I had at the moment had crazy latency which wouldvbe been: TR and TB out to USB > into Live > out of Live to analog mixer > out of mixer > back into Live...so it wasn't really an ideal setup. Probably the most important thing is how you approach your workflow. For example: I wanted reverb and filters, so I had to integrate Live. Then I wanted to control those things, so I added the Launch Kontrol. Need first, then fill the need. That works better than I have a piece of gear, let's work it in. Then you end up with lots of cool gear that you don't use cause you can't figure out how to work it in. Those are just some of my ideas...let me know how it goes!
Thanks for the detailed reply! I read you loud and clear. The amassing gear is a problem for me, even though I do sell anything I do not enjoy or doesn't make life simpler. I tend to keep the less expensive stuff around, and building a place for all of my gear has been a fun process that is pretty much a totally separate woodworking, speaker building, and DIY electronics hobby meld... that let's any piece of gear within reach and able to be used via patchbay if it is analog. I built a monster PC that can handle many audio and MIDI signals via analog or USB for either, but the routing for actual play will only be 3 or 4 sources with effects. I am not smart or good enough to make anything sound good after 3 or 4 pieces of gear pushing out noises. But I did build a technical wonder that can handle anything being turned on and played with little effort as far as making sound come out of the monitors, to a computer at least as part of a mix, (if not a track,) or to a stereo recording. It has been a challenge and kinda sucked when I had to unhook gear and go silent while major desk, rack and shelving was built... but I am glad I did it. I'll keep watching and maybe when I have something worth sharing, I'll set up a camera too. Keep up the AIRA stuff! It's my favorite.
Here's one more question- if you're up for it. What are you using in Ableton as far as a device(s?) to talk to the TR-8. I have downloaded a bunch and only one has worked well. I figure there might be another out there I am not seeing.
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How do you get that tr8 into that groove ? When i Programm my tr8 like you did it doesnt even comes close to that Flow . even with shuffle it is sounding much more static...
Thanks for the comment and listening so intently. So here are some things I've picked up over the years as a drummer that might help you out. 1. Drop and accent on 1, 3, 7, 11, 15. This will give your kick a boost on the one (it's all about the one - George Clinton), and your 16th hats and open hats a boost on the upbeats. 2. You need to swing just a little. Very subtle. Maybe 52-54 somewhere in there. Not too much though. Just enough to add an almost subconscious subtlety to the beat. 3. Lastly, on all of my vids I always dropped the master track into Ableton with an EQ, Glue compressor (SSL 4K emulation), and a Limiter on the master. EQ just low cut 40 and high cut 18k. Maybe a little bump in the lows, cut a little in the 100-200 range, and a few bumps in the mids and highs. For the compressor, you want the kick to trigger the compressor to give the track a little bounce. Again super subtle, maybe just a few db of reduction. Makeup gain 2-3db and soft clip on. Then a limiter to bring it up to full listening volume. All of that should help you out. I think the biggest difference makers are going to be the accents and the compressor to give you some bounce. All of this stuff is subtle, but add it up and you have a nice result. Hopefully, that helps! Let me know how it goes!
@@ObscureMachines thank you !!!
What is the launch control controlling in this one? (VST wise) really nice proggesive sounding lead(ish) synth. x
Thanks for watching! Yeah, so the synth is primarily the TB3. Launch Control is just mapped to reverb and delay send and maybe a filter in Ableton, but that’s it. All of my Aira videos were made with the sounds from the machines themselves!
@@ObscureMachines Wicked, really nice sound man. I'm deffo a fan of musicians who get different sounds out of the tb3 instead of the stereo typical squelchy 303 acid bass as it can make some really nice sounds but most people seem to use it strictly for acid leads or basses (which theres nothing wrong with, but I wanna hear what else they can do lol).
@@h-dawg969 Ya man I would have to agree. I started with the typical acid sounds and honestly just kinda got bored and needed something else. Which was cool cause the TB3 had other sounds to offer. Through the years I've found that often the coolest and newest sounds come from doing more with less. Diving deeper into a single machine instead of getting a new one to solve a specific problem is where the magic happens as you may already know! Anyways, thanks for the chat dude!
@@ObscureMachines yeah man. Minimal approaches to a production / jam can bring out some amazing/unexpected results . Cheers for the sounds! ;)
good vibes ... great job -)))
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Is the Launch Control XL controlling Ableton only? Or is it controlling the Roland gear as well?
basic FX in ableton only
Excellent work! Very minimalistic! :-)
(Brief question: So there's no sounds - VSTs or Samples - from Ableton; just the Aira gear plus some Ableton effects controlled via LaunchControl?)
+Petrus Barbatus Berolinensis Correct. FX If I remember correctly it's just stock reverb, delay, autofilter on the master, possibly effectrix. All the sounds are just the hardware.
Wow what a great performance. Excellent choice of the sounds. Did you run the different sounds of the tr-8 in separate tracks via usb into the daw? For me the kick sounds very processed. Or did you just processed the master bus? Cheers:)
+superdisco101 Individual outs via USB...there was actually an awful amount of latency cause I went USB to DAW to an analog mixer back into the DAW. Not necessary....keep it simple
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Nice work! How did u get ableton to sync so well with the hardware? Just USB midi, or undid something else? I gave up using software for live cos of syncing issues
Thanks! In this case the TR-8 is clocking the TB-3, and Ableton is just an fx box so it's not synced at all. The delay times were set by ear in ms. Next time I'll sync everything and use the USBs. I'll make a video for that too.
Ok, thanks. Yeah, I have tried track delay before but it varies each time I open ableton :( keep the vids coming!
Never mind lol i read the comments- Thanks!
How i can conect a Roland tr8 & Launch control together?
I used the LC to control effects in Ableton. If you can control TR8 parameters you’ll need a midi host to run standalone LC like the Kenton usb midi host and map parameters on the LC
This is cool
These jams really are fantastic. Are you using the launch control to fire clips out of Live, synced up?
Thanks dude, no clips in this one, all sounds are from the machines. However, there's lots of reverb and delay from Live, and the Novation is just mapped to the sends, hipass filters, and the volume faders. So Live is just an effects unit in this one really. I should take advantage of launching some clips though...
Obscure Machines Ah I see, good call. I'm about to pick up a TR8 next week so I think I'll grab Touchable on the iPad and see what I can do with clip triggering.
Yes post videos
I really love the sound you got out of the TR-8 sounds very rich. Are you running it through anything else, filters anything on the laptop. Or is it just the stand alone presets on it?
Yeah, from what I remember there was some EQ on a few channels to clean up the low end, and some EQ, Glue, and Limiter on the master. The main thing though is the Ableton reverb and delay send as well as Effectrix on the master too. That's about it though. Main thing is the reverb and delay.
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Yes. This one.
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Awesome track!!! Add some cowbell :)
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