Shining Force Review! (Genesis) - The Game Collection!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2018
- SuperDerek Reviews Shining Force with Daria Plays RPGs!
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In this Shining Force review, Daria and SuperDerek examine the history of Sonic Software Planning and the Shining Series, starting with Shining Force, the strategy-RPG that's perfect for beginners!
Welcome back to The Game Collection! Today I’d like to show some love to a special Square RPG that doesn’t always get the appreciation it deserves, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest!
What? No, not that crap. Review something good. Something, Sega.
Wait, Daria? But where are you?
It’s doesn’t matter. Just review Shining Force.
But-
NOW!
Ok, ok. The Sega Genesis doesn’t tend to get much love on my channel, which is a real shame! The console isn’t usually the first console people think of when talking about RPGs but it’s actually a very competent system! I also haven’t given much love to Strategy RPGs either, which is another problem. And lastly, Daria is an awesome TH-camr that you should check out, so I guess we’re killing 3 birds with one stone and doing a collaborative review of Shining Force?
Damn skippy we are.
In ages long forgotten, Sega first party developer Sonic! Software Planning (who, despite the name, never actually software planned any Sonic titles) teamed up with Climax Entertainment to produce an almost Saturday morning cartoon take on the Wizardry school of Dungeon crawling RPGs. Shining in the Darkness was a success and they immediately followed it up with the similarly styled tactical RPG, Shining Force. Thus the concept of the Shining series was born, a slew of RPGs with different mechanics united by a single universe and cohesive art style. However the project fell apart during production of the action RPG, Shining Rogue in which Climax essentially grabbed their developmental ball and went home. Shining Rogue was rebranded LandStalker and Sonic! Software Planning took complete creative control of the Shining series with Shining Force 2 and onwards. Later they’d change their name to Camelot Software and develop five more Shining RPGs for the Sega Saturn before they ditched Sega for Nintendo and became “that company who makes those Mario sports games and oh. GoldenSun.” And Climax? They too left Sega to develop the Stalker series before disbanding and rebranding as Matrix Software and developing the best darn Zelda clone in existence, Alundra. But that’s another- where was I? Oh. Right. RIP Shining Force, your light burned bright but short.
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Huge thanks to Daria for coming onto the channel! If you want to see our Mystic Quest video, which should be out any day now, go subscribe to her channel! www.TH-cam.com/DariaPlaysRPGs
Tha gba remake is by far superior to the original.
I've always preferred shining force to fire emblem. SF just seems to have more heart and personality.
The newer 3DS ones have a lot of heart if you haven't checked them out yet (Awakening deserves its high praise for sure), but I've always preferred Shining Force as well. I also prefer having my free time spent wandering towns and a world-map, but that never caught on with any other strategy game in the genre, sadly
Matthew Jacobs I've been meaning to. The wife has one of them.
Well... You kind of can't get around the fact that Shining Force has considerably less character development. As you imply, though, that can be both a good and a bad thing. SF typically takes itself more seriously than the 3DS-era Fire Emblems, though. In spite of all the penguins and Yogurts... Also, no jailbait like Nowy. Yay SF!
(I still prefer SF over FE generally, but Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are... *interesting.* AND they have some really good music.)
It's really a toss up for me. I could earnestly go either way. I legit want an FE youtuber to play this and it's sequel though.
@treeghettox oh fuck off. You are the reason people tend to hate the fire emblem fanbase.
Shining Force was the first strategy RPG i ever played, and because of that i start to search more and more games like that until became a huge fan of the genera
Nivram what are your favorites? What games do you consider hidden gems in the genre? Any under the radar game you think needs more exposure in this genre?
Been looking for other game like shining force any recommendation
Same here!
Shining force 2 was fun. I played it with my siblings . We would brainstorm on what to buy for each character, where the next clue is and so on. Fun times 😍
@@vellreaper Thracia 776 is pretty good
My first RPG game. Loved this game so much, I lost count of how many times I've played it.
Is this a real rpg or a tactical rpg like wasteland
Shining Force is one of the best games ever made. I wish there had been new releases keeping the style of shining force but kept up with the progession of gaming. Rather than the new hack n slash titles they released, those aren't shining force.
The PS2 hack and slash games are good, they just aren’t what Shining Force games should be.
I grew up with Sega Master System Genesis 32x I even had the Sega Channel🤣 my family still talks about landstalker and Shining Force so what brought me here was I was at Family Dollar and they had a Sega Genesis system with pre-loaded games but you can also put cartridges in it and I was so happy this game was on there putting Borderlands 2 to the side I cranked this game up and it is just as awesome today as it was all those years ago I really wish they would come out with a remastered version of this game and landstalker they will forever have a spot on my top 10 list thanks for having this video
Loooove Daria, she's amazing. Shining Force is fantastic, one of my first rpgs (without me knowing what an rpg was). I need to play it again asap.
God I loved this game so much! I remember playing this back in 1994, I stayed up for 3 nights, I think I had sprained my ankle really bad in gym class, and had to keep off it for a week, so I was home from school hehe.
This was my 1st srpg!!! Love it
Amartya Majumdar same!!
I loved that game so much! And i was amazed by the quality even tho I didnt play it until i was 16 emulated on my psp.
One day ill finish SF2 aswell on the genesis collection for ps4 :D
First video game i ever play and still my favorite game series of all time
Same here
As soon as I saw Shining Force, I was as about to jump in and say "In B4 Daria..." little did I know she's actually in the video lol THE QUEEN OF RPGS!
SURPRISE MOTHF- **CUE DISAPPROVING TH-cam FACE**
The engineers at my moms work were always playing this in the office. I was too young to play anything more advanced than Sonic but I was always enthralled with this game. Thanks for the video!
Just now playing this on the Genesis collection on Switch. It's nice being able to fast forward through the battle scenes. This game is just the right amount of complexity and simplicity for a solid pick up and play experience.
I love Shining Force almost as much as I love Dragon Quest. I have so many fond memories of playing Shining Force 1 & 2 as a teenager. I'll pick these up and play them anytime. Thanks to both of you for spreading awareness of this fantastic franchise.
Damn... Mention of Alundra, Camelot (creators of Golden Sun as well) and the inclusion of Daria! Derek I know you're putting everything into your TH-cam venture, you seem to be doing everything correctly with the right niche collabs, streaming schedules, upload schedules and even community management within the discord. I congratulate you on that, you'll see how everything is going to be better and better. Such discipline for your passion is admirable.
My first rpg game. I didn’t own it so I had to rent it from the local video rental store. Needless to say I had to go back a few times to finally finish. Man this brings back some memories 😢
Great review Derek! Shining Force is a great game. Make sure you play Shining in the Darkness and Shining Force II as well. There are some great RPGs on the Genesis. You might want to look into the Phantasy Star series as well if you haven't already.
My favorite game. I'm glad someone is covering it.I am doing a playthrough of the shining force remake if you are interested in joining me on the journey.
Eyy almost the same profile pic @I Do The Most
@@bowiemaxplayer28 word up
@@IDoTheMost haha
Shining force was my first RPG.
Love this series. They need to bring it back!!!
Shining Force and Shining In The Darkness are amazing. I started playing them yesterday.
Just ordered them again this week. Love both.
Love this channel since I discovered it a few weeks ago. I appreciate how you contextualise each game within the history of gaming. Very nostalgic episode! Enjoyed Daria's commentary on this as well.
Yeah! Daria's backstory was a lot of fun to edit together, and hugely informative! :)
This game is legit one of my favorite gba games of all time. It is IMO the best version of Shining Force 1
I would suggest eating this review at 8 in the morning while walking a dog... that's what I did and although it didn't make the review better it did help the walk. The addition of the Daria character was a welcome component and fans of previous SuperDerek reviews well like the comic banter between the main protagonists and the "Anti-hero". I give this review a solid 9.5/*****.
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Great collab you two! I’ve heard Daria mention the Shining Force series about 1200 times so it’s nice to get a full review!
I might be a taaaad bit obsessed
Daria was fantastic to work with! 10.5/10, would collab again. :)
He docked half a point cause I'm slow. :P
That intro is a freaking BANGER! Shining Force was before my time but I played it on a PS3 Meagadrive compilation and loved it. Fondly remember that one town where all the villagers start sneaking up and surrounding you as you head into the church! Good stuff.
This is one thing I absolutely love about your Channel SuperDerek, you are not afraid to put out videos of old games. I see too many people who just try to stay with current games and what’s popular because they think that’s what will keep them trending. I respect the hell out you for not following that trend. Yes you have reviewed new games (Octopath) being the newest I’m aware of. That hasn’t stopped you from putting out gem reviews like this one here. Absolutely fantastic job. Keep the content coming.
I remember playing a PC port of this when I was 15, I found myself shipping Max and Mae the Centaur.
JamCal-X I'm not the only one! I felt so alone for years. 😭
Sega Smash Pack 2? :)
Yes, so many hours
You should do a collab with snesdrunk
I treated myself to a Sega Mega Drive mini (UK name for the Genesis) and Shining Force is one of the forty games on it. I'm addicted!
Great video. The intro was hilarious! Shining Force deserves more love than it gets for sure.
I did a blind playthrough of this game last year. I didn't do any grinding, as the game didn't seem to require it. I did find it frustrating how hard it was to level up some of my characters, though. Still, I enjoyed myself, and would like to tackle Shining Force 2 someday, as I heard that's a much better game.
Top tier RPG from my childhood that not a lot of people know about.
Loved the video and collaboration! Shining Force is a series dear to my heart. RIP.
Thanks for showing the genesis some love and congrats on the collab
Daria and I have been meaning to work together for some time now, and I'm glad we finally figured out a good way to do it. :)
The Genesis IS one of the systems I think of when I think old school JRPGs. 2 amazing Phantasy Star games (and one very meh one), Sword of Vermillion, the Shining games, etc. While the SNES may have more and better RPGs on it, the Genny sure was no slouch.
The Genny? Haha really
The Genesis was an RPG machine the first couple years of its life, especially compared to the paltry offerings on the NES and SMS up to that point.
You touched on what I love about Shining Force so much- it got the difficulty perfect. You can grind and make the game easier, but you can never grind and just barely scrape by each battle. It's difficult to not grind, but nowhere near impossible.
Damn, shame to hear about the character designer for a TON of the Shining games passed away. You gonna give Shining Force 2 eventually now?
Hmm. I need to track down a copy, but I'd say it's likely. It's on the list now, that's for sure. :)
They're quite a bit different, I prefer the art style, music and charm of the original. But there are a lot of advancements in the sequel with tons of quality of life changes, and a much bigger and grander world and story. So it's a lot of people's favorite. Odds are you'll really enjoy it. But regardless of that, thanks for giving an overlooked childhood favorite of mine a bit of time in the spotlight. I love the older Shining series
you mean tamaki? where does it say that he died?
Nice collaboration, really enjoyed playing through this game after buying on Wii virtual console.
Yay, another RPG channel to follow! Thanks, Daria
One of the first RPG I played. super awesome! I remembered there were a few secrets in this game, especially blown away by the spell casting centaur.
Derek I highly recommend Phantasy Star 4 for the Genesis.
Also maybe get a chance to play Wonder Boy in Monster World for the Genesis to.
Yeah Wonderboy isn't a standard rpg but it is a 2D action rpg like zelda 2 (but waaaay much better) and I think it will be a good change of a game for you to play.
I love playing nintendo rpgs and all that but genesis has a unique charm to it also it's a good place for rpg fans to try out some more retro rpgs on a non nintendo system.
ALRIGHT!!! Ive been waiting for this, bring on the crossover!
Love your intro music (also the exp. points too)
Just picked this up today, can’t wait to play it
What did you think Daria?
I love the way that theres an even harder mode to the game by exiting Gardenia by way of manipulating a civilian into blocking a guard thus letting you have missed out on the original group you should have obtained before hand
Idk why, but this is probably one of my favorite videos of yours.
Thanks man, I'm really glad you like it! :)
I'm Playing Shining Force NOW for the 2nd time , never really beat it in the past (now im 28) AND im loving this game! it's a classic! (still havent beat the game) but... it's amazing... (and im subbing)
Love the content now that you give approval to this game I’ll put it on my list
Let me get that first. New intro is awesome
Played this as a kid 25 years ago. Just about to start replaying it again for the first time since then. Can't wait to get stuck back into it. I remember I used to hide the hero character at the back during battles, but he never levelled up and I was eventually forced to use him and coouldn't possibly win. Looking forward to striking this off my 'games I couldn't finish right as a kid but loved none the less' list' Then onto Shining Force 2 where I had the same problem!! XD
Just did my first sitting on Shining Force, and I played for about 7 hours straight, made it to the end of chapter 3. It's amazing!
I really can't remember if I watched this video before (I probably have and I forgot so forgive me if I already have) but I remember playing and beating both Shining Force 1 and 2 as a little kid back to back. I was like 7 when I first played Shining Force 1 and it took me until I was like 10 to beat it and it's sequel. The reason it took me 3 years was because I wasn't that bright when it comes to strategey/tactical rpgs and I was also obsessed with more popular snes rpgs at the time (Final Fantasy VI and VII and obviously Pokemon...). But I felt satisfied when I beat Shining Force 1 because there was just something about finding out about Max's past and slaying Dark Dragon after hearing the big build about how evil he is that just made me feel satisfied, but the ending.... I cried. Ok? I really cried over what happened in the end. Not gonna ruin it for anyone who has yet to play it but the ending of Shining Force 1 was one of the first games that made me cry as a kid because I cared a lot about the ragtag group of characters that joined my party throughout this adventure and I couldnt help getting attached to a lot of them. I still cry over the ending to this day.
Great video! I’ve always wanted to try the older shining games! This one looks amazing :D
It was quite a lot of fun, for sure!
Shining Force 1 & 2 are epic... Way better than more recent games.
Great vid ! What a cool game. Thank you !!
I remember playing this so much as a kid. Probably why I got into other titles like Fire Emblem and Dragon Quest.
Shining Force was such a good game. I grinded so hard and replayed so many battles I just couldn't grasp. HEAL, FIght, Magic, HEAL. God that was a great game!
Your flow together I feel like is flawless. BTW I knew who you were Super Derek but Daria got me to be like, oh yea....I know that guy I'll sub. Just watching again waiting for FF:MQ.
This is awesome Derek and Daria :p D&D reviewing RPGs :p
Ooohh! D&D eh? I like it! :)
I call rogue!
Sure! I've always wanted to try Shadow Monk, or maybe Bard... Hmm..
The setting for the game reminds me a lot of Dunbine's Byston Well world.
Aaay, Daria. That was a nice surprise.
Solid review. Shining Force is tight and was the first RPG I ever played, buuuuut I still prefer the GBA version for the fleshed out story ;)
Yeah, just from what I heard from the chat while streaming my playthrough, there's a lot of key information that didn't make it into the US script for Genesis, while the GBA version was better and added even more. :)
Torgo I agree completely I feel that the Gen sprites are cleaner and more vibrantly colored, I much prefer the color palette of the Gen version over the washed out imo Gba version. Also the "shotgun blast" sound effects are missed for sure to me also. Even as I kid I felt this way and wondered what was up with the audio/visual changes. Because I had played the Sega Smash Pack version on PC prior.
@@retrosoul8770 While I don't think it's that bad in this game as many others, but just like many other GBA titles they made the colors oversaturated due to the original GBA model not having a backlit screen. The Donkey Kong Country games on GBA are a good example of this.. fortunately there are rom hacks that have altered the palette and it's so much better.
Hahaha, you tell ‘em Daria!
Great video you two, I’ve already made a personal promise to play through Shining Force.
RIP Mystic Quest LOL
I enjoyed both the Genesis version of the game as well as the GBA version. I prefer the GBA version of the game as one of the new characters was really fun to use as a support to the team. Narsha got a great spell list and once she buffed the party she could hit enemies hard.
Awesome video brother....have another sub...you....you've earned it
I revisit this game often. Still have the app on my iPad 2 too!
Surprisingly I just started playing this game yesterday ,this will be my first Genesis rpg ever after playing alot of snes and ps rpgs
I had this game as a kid and love it.
Hot stuff coming your way!
Resurrection of the Dark Dragon was my first experience with Shining Force so I kinda like the graphics on GBA. Good to know on the grinding because I plan to play OG Shining Force soon and wasn't sure if being able to re-enter battles was something they added for the GBA version or not.
This one was delightful
I subscribed just because of your intro I hope to see more videos this is great and thank you I also love shining for us I'm using some weird voice app that is typing what I say
A dream team collaboration for me with 2 youtubers I've watched for years. Thanks for making this happen!
DAMN good piece!
OH MY GOD!!! I WAS LOOKING FOR THE NAME OF THAT GAME FOR A WHILE WHEN I REMEMBERED IT AND COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE! Landstalker. I played that back when the Sega Channel (for the few who remember that monthly interchanging game thinger) was available for a time. Good god, my thirst for remembering has been quenched.
Sidenote: Shining Force was my very first game. Still one of the favs. Will always have a special place in my heart.
Landstalker was such a great game! Daria and I have both talked about it in the past, and it's even on Steam for like, $3 if I recall correctly. :)
Shining Force = SRPGs done right!
Shining Force 3 = Greatest game of all time!
One of my favorite games of its genre. I first played this on the Sega Smash Pack 2, back in 2004 or so. I was so bad at it, but I had so much fun with the world and the characters. A nostalgic 9/10
Same. Had to have a friend to help me beat the game.
I played a bit of it back in the day and liked it. Ill probably have to get back into it.
I am happy to see
Old intro theme 😀
That's my "The Game Collection" theme song, so I only use it for full review videos... though for Dragon Quest games I do swap in the DQ theme too! :)
SuperDerek RPGs hey thanks for reply , I often comment on your videos but m from India so my English is bad. Love you & your game collections 💝💝
I started my first play through of SF1 in 20 years last night. I played SF3 first as a kid, which is one of my favourite games of all time, then went back to the Megadrive games in my teens. I remember not really liking them as much and have always come back to SF3 instead, especially as I only recent got an opportunity to finish Sc2 and 3. I started the GBA version at first because I liked the art style more and had heard about the translation revisions but I found it's controls and menus really awkward to the point that I stopped midway through the second battle and started up the original instead. Looking forward to playing it again. I think much of my dislike of 1 and 2 in my youth was just them being last-get at the time that I played them.
This game was one of my favs in sonic's ultimate genesis collection.
Great review. I just beat this for the first time. My friend had it growing up and I never understood it. Infact it took me a while to really catch onto how to play it. I found out that I missed a lot of characters. I still managed to beat it because of my mighty centaur knight team and Gort. Seriously Gort would single handedly carry my team he was a tank. I am sad I missed so many characters I did find a ninja hiding in a bush right at the end. I do want to play it again with a different team sometime. The problem I had was that I used the knights and gort so much to kill enemies that they took all the ex so all the other characters where weak. I hope that there is a shared experience system in Shining force II when I play it. I really wanted to use the other characters but I could not because they were so underleveled. Otherwise great game.
Great episode you two. I enjoyed it alot. Any chance of the two of you teaming up in the future and do an review of Shining Force II and Warsong Langrisser review on the channel? :)
One of my favorite RPGs ever along with Phantasy Star
Yes, Yes and Yes!!!
I loved shining force. Thanks for talking about it. Wish ya'll would have went through some of the leveled up classes too. the way they change into some pretty cool characters. kind of like an early brigadine. Another favorite of mine.
I’ve played this one at least 7-8 times my favorite game of all time
Ayyyyy, it's Daria! :D
Oddly, despite having a Genesis as a kid and loving RPGs, I didn't get this game until a few years ago ($1 at a thrift store!)
Also, despite what some people may tell you, Shining Resonance is actually really good. Nothing at all like the older titles, but still excellent
I enjoyed shining the holy ark and shining in the darkness; my friend and I rented shining force 1 (it was ok)
My first jrpg ^^
I never made that connection between Landstalker and Alundra, but gameplay-wise it makes sense that both games were made by the same people.
Yeah, they're so similar! Go compare the artwork of Nigel to Alundra, and you'll see they're basically carbon-copies of each other! :)
I loved and grew up with Shining Force 2
Cool collab, Domingo 4 ever.......
Quick request for your upcoming video - please include some metal covers of the battle theme. It's the way the song was always meant to be heard.
So catchy. So catchy.
I never got this game but dang wish I had. My genesis may have stayed around longer with it.
They have I & II for free on Google Play, along with the original dungeon crawler ''Shining in the Darkness'', as one download.
Shining Force 1 & 2 are such awesome games
Seriously, this game is only beat by the sequel in my book. Shining Force 1 and 2 are just masterpieces on the Genesis. Great review!
Shining force is amazing and even the best tactical rpg on 32 bits with the trilogy shining force 3
The series of Shining Force games are above and beyond the best games I've ever played in my entire life to this day. (Personal opinion, of course!) Where there are games with much more depth these days such as Skyrim and the Fallout series, my childhood was spent mastering every moment of the original Shining Force game on the sega genesis. I got so good at the game that I knew -exactly- what the A.I. would do no matter what step I took during battle.
Great video! I appreciate the history lesson. Where is Camelot now? and why aren't we hearing about an RPG from them in development for the switch??!!?!
Can't wait till you get around to reviewing Shining Force 3. One of my top 3 RPGs ever. Still holding out hope that Sega will rerelease the entire game somehow (only 1 of 3 "scenario" titles were translated and officially released).
Whoa!!!
It's Daria... hehehe.
Daria is cool.
Yep! She sure is!
The first RPG I played as a kid . Best in my opinion as well
Shining Forces always seemed cool. I had a Genesis but I don't think I bought one until it was super cheap towards the end of its life. I remember playing this game and Shining Forces 2 but I am not sure if I ever played them on the Genesis or if I did so via emulation years later. Either way they're good games.
So I went to Daria's channel as I was unaware of her and enjoyed her commentary in this video and looks like she hasn't uploaded in a year. :( sad times.