Fair enough West ham could definitely have it. For me Millwall were the top kiddies, I went to the old cold blow stadium as a Chelsea fan in 77 my arsehole went right in. I got the bus home I didn't have a cool where bus was going eventually got across the river and safety. It was all apart of the laugh.
Gary Strahan london transport are still looking for you to bill you for the mess (piss /shit ) you caused on the bus seat that day disgusting coward that you are
At the end - Respect to the old bloke in brown anorak who’s watching the mob attack the pub - he then turns & strolls away grinning whilst the cop is beginning to panic, repeating “ there is serious disorder “ ….😁
77 to 2009 active.... Best years for me 76/85 -ruthless, seen things what would give your nightmares "nightmares"... Never swap those days always remembered never forgotten..
I went from 75 to 85 all over the country and there were so many big and small mobs doing each other, the truth is everyone got done at some time (apart from Chelsea who never got done by anybody apparently).
I must admit I was a little surprised that day that there were no police escorts for us before the game. There certainly was after the match, it took about two hours to get back to New Cross Gate.
The seventies were very violent, most of the rucks were inside the grounds on the terraces, infiltrating the away end was the adrenaline rush, Cardiff well respected btw 💪
They just didn’t get followed around and treated like terrorists and didn’t have police protection so it meant proper lads and not gimps and grasses like today
I remember a young kid getting slashed across face before the game, when a load of ICF ambushed a few late arrivals the game already started.... cowards...but about 10 of us battled while our crew fought police to get out of the ground. Afterwards we went to mile end and got justice.....
I a West Ham fani only 24 so I never c thees days and I ant muggin us off but I find it so funny we was 1of the most thretning firms marchin round singin about bubbles gotta luv it
Liberties. Only team that done you at your place was us. Now? No-one could touch your lot because of your numbers. Mancs maybe, but I doubt it. Plaistow. EIE
Thanks for your respect for our firms in the 80s ,were every single town and city had boys who were willing to have a go anywhere and everywhere ,I can only describe it as pure carnage every single Saturday up and down the country in the 80 s .
We had a meet arranged that day on wasteland. Andrew swallow was among your lot before he went chasing the media, you should know him well since he was one of your top boys. He openly admitted that they swerved the meet due to not having the numbers to touch our lot. I can confirm those pubs were indeed empty but if this is '84, we caught you later this season at New Cross on your away day to Palace. You had a massive firm that day but when you come running up the road, you got run back down it just as fast under the cover of the OB. Your idea of getting toe-to-toe with us was a fucking petrol bomb at london bridge lol i think thats why a lot of your scarfers and youth say you done us at london bridge lol its a shame its all under the OB now, was one of many great days out for us at least
You didn't 'catch' us on the way to Palace, we came looking for you and got done. West Ham and Millwall have gone toe-to-toe many times, both mobs have had results and to say that West Ham haven't had their share is a fantasy that should be saved for those soppy books.
@@redflag8970 I've heard so many excuses from wall on this, from the undercover oh bill really being WEST HAM fans filming it to look good in our favour then the 3 chaps at the end of vid being wall confronting us , if you see the young AS at the end, he's the most agitated one asking wtf are millwall were here, then watch the knockers vid that plays after this vid with the ICF you'll see him in that too along with a young DH Who i grew up with in the rollneck & pringle ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 ye I don’t what happened to them but okr is there area an so was crown an anchor. I rate wall but this was poor from them. I am not West Ham an I am just calling it as I see it
@@redflag8970 spoke before your man u, we have had results & losses against millwall but that day we walked all over there manor untouched, we had a huge mob that day ⚒
Nope, not wrong. Bit before my time but the I've heard this story from the older Wackers. They heard you was going to London Bridge so all went there, by the time they found out you had actually gone to New Cross Gate there was hundreds of OB with you.
@@raf3070 if you think Wall would dodge a meet with you lot you're living in a fantasy world. As I said, before my time this but I know plenty of older Wackers/F-Troop and they're the gamest fuckers I've ever met in my life and have no reason to lie.
@@raf3070 but what you're saying is Wall knew you were coming and decided to go somewhere else to avoid you? Quite honestly some of the biggest bollocks I've heard! That's like saying Wall were bringing a massive mob to yours and you thought "Fuck that. We'll go somewhere else!“. It wouldn't and didn't happen and we both know that. I've heard this story from BW himself, so I know who I'm wiling to believe!
i'm yankee but i been to the u.k. 3 times i got friends over there i stay with and whatnot. i was there in the late 90's and unfortunately the whole "football hooligan" deal was perdy much over by then which really sucked i would've killed to see this shit in the flesh. i love the old hooligan footage from the 70's and 80's so so so much more entertaining than the game itself.
seen this a few tims.Just noticed the 3 Millwall lads fronting up people, the police stepped in before anything happens. Pity Milwall weren't about,this would have been iconic 80s hooliganism on film
There was never any weapons like that we just seen on the opening scene like that at games. Complete rollocks! The old bill just took them on house raids of idiots. Personally, the best were the Arsenal, because then they were all London Irish and could box.
what a load of shit, alot of the main Herd lot were black .....definitely the best dressed firm in London and very capable, but not the best by a long way. We're better in the late 80s / early 90s
Agreed i followed Liverpool all over got attacked by a Spurs fan with an axe that was about it really shit myself mind sadly a lot of the Annie road carried stanleys mainly because they couldn't fight 😂 Everton on the other hand were horrific
Can't believe it a U tube vid about hooligan ism that actually featured fighting h They usually just show lots of fat blokes waving their arms and shouting "let's have it"
i used to go rangers games in the 80s in scotland, goin leeds since 09, wot were leeds honestly like in london, mncr, lpool, boro, newcslte etc in the 80s n 90s? cheers
@@jimmymcgill713 Cool mate cheers aye heard we had a massive mob, were we game away?, propa havin it with other big known mobs west ham scum chelsea millwall etc?
So they the old bill knew West Ham was coming in at new cross but let em come in without old bill in sight, all the time Millwall was at London Bridge where the meet was planned
Not true m8 the meet was at surrey docks where 100.s of wall was waiting .west ham come new x caught us with our pants down n took us 20mns before we met head on on the ilderton rd...carnage ensued and after the game over 20 ambulances were neede to ferry the injured to st thomas.s guys or kings college..
The original plan was to go embankment then elephant and castle and walk up old Kent road but the ob wouldn’t let the train carry on until they got us off !! Then when we were going Surrey docks but the train went non stop Whitechapel to new x gate 👍
Whenever Millwall come into east London they wouldn't get off at Upton park, they'd stay on the train go past east ham get off at barking then jump on train down to woodgrange park house then try and sneak in the back way, I suppose that's normal for them though trying to get in the back way ⚒️
Don.t be fuckin stupid one night game we got off at woodrange due to ol bill presence we.ve NEVER crept in anywhere at your gaff always turned up with intent unlike you melts ffs...
As a Nuneaton fan the only team we were slightly worried about was Wall away. The Chicken run NNE section was held by us for quite some time in the cup. They're a myth the ICF
Date and game prick all my family been in the run for 30 years before we left and I can tell you no one took the run but you keep telling yourself different or keep dreaming,another who thinks he was a hooligan but just a little mug who wished he was
A swing up is fair enough but no-one should be using tools.
EXACTLY! Good throw and punch about, 😢worse thing you should have after a rumble at football is a broken nose/burst lip.
Should be legalised and broadcasted-
Would make fantastic TV ⚽️
Fair enough West ham could definitely have it. For me Millwall were the top kiddies, I went to the old cold blow stadium as a Chelsea fan in 77 my arsehole went right in. I got the bus home I didn't have a cool where bus was going eventually got across the river and safety. It was all apart of the laugh.
Gary Strahan london transport are still looking for you to bill you for the mess (piss /shit ) you caused on the bus seat that day disgusting coward that you are
@@anthonymitchell8893 I was out of my depth I have to agree, oh well you live and learn. Went back a few times 8t was a lot calmer
At the end - Respect to the old bloke in brown anorak who’s watching the mob attack the pub - he then turns & strolls away grinning whilst the cop is beginning to panic, repeating “ there is serious disorder “ ….😁
Went to Stamford Bridge in 84/85 season to Chelsea v West Ham, absolute mental day out.
77 to 2009 active....
Best years for me 76/85 -ruthless, seen things what would give your nightmares "nightmares"... Never swap those days always remembered never forgotten..
Isn't this just footage from the "Hooligan" documentary where they followed West Ham about? 🤔
I think
the old hooligan film was about four years before this happened
No this was all about different crimes on the underground 👍
I went from 75 to 85 all over the country and there were so many big and small mobs doing each other, the truth is everyone got done at some time (apart from Chelsea who never got done by anybody apparently).
Doing each other is the best description. Gay losers!
I must admit I was a little surprised that day that there were no police escorts for us before the game. There certainly was after the match, it took about two hours to get back to New Cross Gate.
Hooliganism in the 80’s was on another level. Serious firms around. Wish i was around back them days. Big respect to all from a cardiff city fan 👊🏽
U would have got smashed u weasel
Grow up mate
@@christopherjones7241 probably another rugby fan 😂 bore off mate you shouldnt be watching these videos if you aint interested lol
The seventies were very violent, most of the rucks were inside the grounds on the terraces, infiltrating the away end was the adrenaline rush, Cardiff well respected btw 💪
They just didn’t get followed around and treated like terrorists and didn’t have police protection so it meant proper lads and not gimps and grasses like today
Got to be the best running commentary ever by that old bill as west ham were un- escorted down the old Kent road
I'd second that for sure it couldn't be bettered lol.
West ham another level these days
I remember a young kid getting slashed across face before the game, when a load of ICF ambushed a few late arrivals the game already started.... cowards...but about 10 of us battled while our crew fought police to get out of the ground. Afterwards we went to mile end and got justice.....
jackasnory
@@whufc6764 you must be s WH but it's true...very true ..I was there
@@charlesstolworthy219 so was I. ⚒️
What happened
Is this the video of West Ham attacking an empty pub?
Wow ! It was really violent back then !
Blokes walking around doing nothing !
might it help if the video or vid title creator said what btp is short for,some people might not know.
done
Will never understand why anyone wants to fight using weapons????No bottle at all.
I a West Ham fani only 24 so I never c thees days and I ant muggin us off but I find it so funny we was 1of the most thretning firms marchin round singin about bubbles gotta luv it
Are you sure your 24 ive known four year olds who can spell better
Lucas you div go back to school 😂
Say what ?
@@markige West Ham fani apparently
@@danieloliver4558 know a lot of 4 year olds do you
Liberties. Only team that done you at your place was us. Now? No-one could touch your lot because of your numbers. Mancs maybe, but I doubt it. Plaistow. EIE
Respect for all firm from 80's
Thanks for your respect for our firms in the 80s ,were every single town and city had boys who were willing to have a go anywhere and everywhere ,I can only describe it as pure carnage every single Saturday up and down the country in the 80 s .
Good old days, great memories!!
Bad old days
Is that peter bleksley at the start?
Only away ground I swerved was wall, walk in the park at the Boleyn..but the stories from the other side of the river were marish ⚒
See Portsmouth do the same at Millwall in the early 90s when i lived in Old kent road. See them smash all the pubs up and Millwall outside the ground.
Portsmouth ain't got nothing on f troop
@@ash80510 Whatever i was there i see it happen . Nothing more you can say.
@@CARLIN4737 good for you
@@ash80510 Pompey have done Millwall as many times as they have done us.
@@Rob_Sausage Also Windmill pub 2012. see evening standard report 12th April 2012.
We had a meet arranged that day on wasteland. Andrew swallow was among your lot before he went chasing the media, you should know him well since he was one of your top boys. He openly admitted that they swerved the meet due to not having the numbers to touch our lot. I can confirm those pubs were indeed empty but if this is '84, we caught you later this season at New Cross on your away day to Palace. You had a massive firm that day but when you come running up the road, you got run back down it just as fast under the cover of the OB. Your idea of getting toe-to-toe with us was a fucking petrol bomb at london bridge lol i think thats why a lot of your scarfers and youth say you done us at london bridge lol its a shame its all under the OB now, was one of many great days out for us at least
This is not '84.
some classic excuses going on here
Was that the famous massacre of the ICF at New Cross? Completely outnumbered. Many of the ICF got chopped up to f**k.
Milllllllllll
You didn't 'catch' us on the way to Palace, we came looking for you and got done. West Ham and Millwall have gone toe-to-toe many times, both mobs have had results and to say that West Ham haven't had their share is a fantasy that should be saved for those soppy books.
@@CIMAmotor was that f. A cup game at palace
West.ham turned up ! ... where was millwall! No excuses!
You in your mom's basement typing this?
Totally agree had wall walked barking road in the same way they would think it was a liberty plus completely unchallenged makes it worse
@@redflag8970 I've heard so many excuses from wall on this, from the undercover oh bill really being WEST HAM fans filming it to look good in our favour then the 3 chaps at the end of vid being wall confronting us , if you see the young AS at the end, he's the most agitated one asking wtf are millwall were here, then watch the knockers vid that plays after this vid with the ICF you'll see him in that too along with a young DH Who i grew up with in the rollneck & pringle ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 ye I don’t what happened to them but okr is there area an so was crown an anchor. I rate wall but this was poor from them. I am not West Ham an I am just calling it as I see it
@@redflag8970 spoke before your man u, we have had results & losses against millwall but that day we walked all over there manor untouched, we had a huge mob that day ⚒
There were no Millwall in those pubs.
Nope, not wrong. Bit before my time but the I've heard this story from the older Wackers. They heard you was going to London Bridge so all went there, by the time they found out you had actually gone to New Cross Gate there was hundreds of OB with you.
@@JonD_44 Sounds about right JD.
@@raf3070 if you think Wall would dodge a meet with you lot you're living in a fantasy world. As I said, before my time this but I know plenty of older Wackers/F-Troop and they're the gamest fuckers I've ever met in my life and have no reason to lie.
@@raf3070 but what you're saying is Wall knew you were coming and decided to go somewhere else to avoid you? Quite honestly some of the biggest bollocks I've heard! That's like saying Wall were bringing a massive mob to yours and you thought "Fuck that. We'll go somewhere else!“. It wouldn't and didn't happen and we both know that. I've heard this story from BW himself, so I know who I'm wiling to believe!
@@JonD_44 ‘no reason to lie’, there millwall fans they not exactly the cleverest are they, probably can’t tell the truth from a lie half the time
i'm yankee but i been to the u.k. 3 times i got friends over there i stay with and whatnot. i was there in the late 90's and unfortunately the whole "football hooligan" deal was perdy much over by then which really sucked i would've killed to see this shit in the flesh. i love the old hooligan footage from the 70's and 80's so so so much more entertaining than the game itself.
Mancs and Scousers during the 80s was pure fuckin Evil for slashings
seen this a few tims.Just noticed the 3 Millwall lads fronting up people, the police stepped in before anything happens. Pity Milwall weren't about,this would have been iconic 80s hooliganism on film
they were shouting at the west ham lot as to why they werent at the meet
@@halfwayliner578 🤣
The 3 lads are West Ham.
Maybe they should of been as West Ham were strolling about freely
@@kilburn66 they are Millwall, I know all 3
There was never any weapons like that we just seen on the opening scene like that at games. Complete rollocks! The old bill just took them on house raids of idiots.
Personally, the best were the Arsenal, because then they were all London Irish and could box.
Yeah, teams took the North bank for fun and then run like feck after the game because of the boxing in the street. ROFL.
what a load of shit, alot of the main Herd lot were black .....definitely the best dressed firm in London and very capable, but not the best by a long way.
We're better in the late 80s / early 90s
Agreed i followed Liverpool all over got attacked by a Spurs fan with an axe that was about it really shit myself mind sadly a lot of the Annie road carried stanleys mainly because they couldn't fight 😂 Everton on the other hand were horrific
QPR lol grange hill firm
Started with the pride umbrellas and now…
Can't believe it a U tube vid about hooligan ism that actually featured fighting h
They usually just show lots of fat blokes waving their arms and shouting "let's have it"
Wall was the only gaff I swerved away...all others were walk in the park.
We all loved Millwall away
Yeah, me too.
WEST HAM wasn't an easy ride mate running the gauntlet back to upton park station
The Boyeln ground wasn’t a place to come and give it many tried all got slaughtered
Both the real deal man in scared
Proper old bill back then aswell unlike todays woke soap dodgers
we are the "guvnors" ,,,,,Sadiq Khan "hold my drink"
Millwall away love it.❤
👁CF ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
👁CF ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
We had it off everywhere we went
Yeah ambushing 14 year old stragglers and cutting them is about as close to a proper ruck as most of you ever got
🤡🤣
You never that for certain, you didn't even go to the games
@@TheWelwyn21 I went home and away every game saw more grounds and more tear ups ⚒️
@@michaelharrison3602 we never attacked stragglers we were after the main boys were West Ham not a two bob Mob
i used to go rangers games in the 80s in scotland, goin leeds since 09, wot were leeds honestly like in london, mncr, lpool, boro, newcslte etc in the 80s n 90s? cheers
Leeds were number one when it mattered .
@@Dawgreen arite there mate, yeh? know we had a big mob, but proper used to have it with tasty mobs yeh? cheers
@@jimmymcgill713 Rangers in Manchester 2008 .
@@jimmymcgill713 Cool mate cheers aye heard we had a massive mob, were we game away?, propa havin it with other big known mobs west ham scum chelsea millwall etc?
Leeds got a good reception at Boro back in the day. Boro invaded the away end at Ayresome on two occasions against Leeds.
....come on Millwall !!!
The nastiest rivalry in England.
Come on you Lions!
No one likes you cos your sh it, simple az
Blues/villa on a par
Newcastle Vs blunderland
Dulwhich Hamlet/Tooting & Mitcham United
Darlington v Hartlepool was , but now the poolie bin dippers got nothin to offer haha
3:18 punches his own man lol
Sewer rats!
Grass doing his bit
wheres the handbags? 🤣
Not really they were respected in there day, times changes things are far worse now.
So they the old bill knew West Ham was coming in at new cross but let em come in without old bill in sight, all the time Millwall was at London Bridge where the meet was planned
Not true m8 the meet was at surrey docks where 100.s of wall was waiting .west ham come new x caught us with our pants down n took us 20mns before we met head on on the ilderton rd...carnage ensued and after the game over 20 ambulances were neede to ferry the injured to st thomas.s guys or kings college..
You read that book by the undercover copper in Wall stated him and wall was at London Bridge
The original plan was to go embankment then elephant and castle and walk up old Kent road but the ob wouldn’t let the train carry on until they got us off !! Then when we were going Surrey docks but the train went non stop Whitechapel to new x gate 👍
Up the lions 🦁 milllllllll
Snap respect to Cardiff had a good firm
200 zuluz went to ninian park on a night game and gave it to em.....same season they tried to take the kop and got caught on there toes.
Why did only 95 brave Cardiff come to Leeds unless it's too far to travel😊
This program was exposed as fake about the guns and stuff
Whenever Millwall come into east London they wouldn't get off at Upton park, they'd stay on the train go past east ham get off at barking then jump on train down to woodgrange park house then try and sneak in the back way, I suppose that's normal for them though trying to get in the back way ⚒️
That's rich an old iron making jokes about getting in the back door
That's great coming from someone who brags about being an old iron
Very funny considering they caught 8 bodies on u lot within 3 years
Don.t be fuckin stupid one night game we got off at woodrange due to ol bill presence we.ve NEVER crept in anywhere at your gaff always turned up with intent unlike you melts ffs...
No way could Millwall do Chelsea. If our top boys were out same for Millwall. Just numbers alone Chelsea are too big simple as thay
It doesn't work like that
I'm from Bermondsey and grew up with Millwalls old lot. But Chelsea are my lot and on our day Millwall can't touch us CFC hh
have a day off
Millwall tony
Millllll
AAAAAAaaaaaaalbion....
As a Nuneaton fan the only team we were slightly worried about was Wall away. The Chicken run NNE section was held by us for quite some time in the cup. They're a myth the ICF
😄😄😄⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
Wtf
Chicken run my arse never happened wake up
@@neilcooper4493 You weren't there so you'll never know. Obviously blowing bubbles in your garden while warming your scarf and drinking cocoa
Date and game prick all my family been in the run for 30 years before we left and I can tell you no one took the run but you keep telling yourself different or keep dreaming,another who thinks he was a hooligan but just a little mug who wished he was
coventry still a top firm
Who ?
what!
Not even the top firm in Coventry
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