Your boat is looking awesome. That was some really clean foam work. The framing looks really robust (also EXPENSIVE) but worth it. Looks like it will last forever. I would put some exterior puncture protection on the bow and the bottom and you have yourself a lifetime boat.. I'm going to deck mine with some sheet cork. Cool on the feet and you can get as decorative as you want with paint or lines or carving, whatever. I think it's the best and never seen it on a tinney. Keep it wet.
I like the idea. I do have a concern. Because the foam is not adhered to the boat, I think the water will just pop it out of place and then become useless. Maybe some 3M adhesive spray would work?
Love the build your doing. I'm getting ideas for up coming build. I know the reasons for the foam but wanted to know if you bond it to the various surfaces or does it just rest in place? Also who was the supplier for the live well you installed? Thanks for sharing your project. P.S. The tutorials on how you did things is super valuable.
Awesome! Im glad to hear it helps! The foam just sits in place. I cut them a hair too big so they kinda squeeze in place. I got it from @greatlakesskipper. I have a video on it, I think its called "livewell part 1, where I go over it and have a link in the description for the one i bought. They have all different sizes
school me in the game... Why the foam? May be an obvious question/answer, but I've got a 10ft and I'm thinking of decking the front, would I need foam? Send me a link if you covered this in another video. Thanks
Sunday's video will be about why you should put foam in a boat. I will be able to answer your question in more detail there, because you are not the only one asking. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching!
The foam will keep it from sinking when it's full of water but how does adding foam make the boat displace more water allowing it to handle heavier loads?
Im using it serve a few purposes. It is giving me a level base for my flooring, its also going to reduce noise against the aluminum, and just to help keep the boat afloat if it was to take on water. Hope that answers your question
@@fireantfishing Just bought a 12 foot johnboat aluminum. My first boat at 74 years old. Want to do some quiet fishing. It weighs 144 pounds. What do you suggest for an electric motor and deep cell battery please? thank you!
You have missed the point of floatation foam and so have many the viewers. Floatation foam is used to create a neutral buoyancy WHEN the boat takes on water and sinks. First, the foam fills cavities in boat that would otherwise fill with water. Second, the foam when installed correctly will keep the damaged boat level when filled with water up to the gunwales. Pink wall styrofoam does not have enough buoyancy to do this and is a waste of time and money. Lastly, if you have water in your foam either you have a hole in the hull OR you are storing your boat without a cover and level. To avoid this put a good cover on the boat and tilt the bow your boat upwards to drain any water while stored. Floatation foam is not a sponge. However, it will soak up water over time. Please look over USCG book www.uscgboating.org/regulations/assets/builders-handbook/FLOTATION.pdf
Quote "Imtheonlybran" Pink Foam Styrofoam or Extruded Polystyrene weighs 3.1 lbs per cubic foot. Water weighs 62.4 lbs per cubic ft. Pink Foam provides 59.3 lbs per cubic foot of net flotation, you don't get much better than that. Each 4X8 Sheet of the 2 inch Foamular 150 he was using is 5.33 cubic feet of foam or 315.6 lbs net gained buoyancy when the boat is swamped. Fiberglass the foam with 6oz cloth and epoxy resin and it can sit in the water a 100 years and never absorb a drop. Fiberglass and resin will drop the net buoyancy by a couple of lbs but you are still gaining ~57 lbs per cubic foot of water proof buoyancy.
Gerald Roemer Well that is not EXACTLY true! Foam deadens noise, adds flotation to prevent sinking and if done properly stiffens the boat. All foams do not adsorb water! SOME DO SOME DON’T. I have several boats some with foam some without. It’s a trade off like everything else.
SORRY BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT MAN.... this foaming job makes little sense. sure, it will offer some insulation benefits. and if you do take on water. it will slow the inevitable. but what it won't do is save the boat. and yes, i know that "most" incidents won't be so traumatic. and most boaters will be able to make it to a nearby refuge. BUT... i'm retired USAF and have a wife and 3 kids. so maybes and likelys don't cut it for me. i need to know that i'm prepared for even the most serious of events. i have an 18ft glass bottom(acrylic sheets) jet boat (don't get to excited... it's only a 30hp engine :) its a mostly wood with some aluminum components design. and it is divided into 8 total compartments. thus, puncturing multiple compartments wont bring it down. plus, i used expanding foam rather than sheets. this enabled me to fill in every little gap of air throughout the boat. therefore, even if you take a serious puncture. there is nowhere for the water to fill, period. another benefit is that because of the foams nature to adhere to most surfaces. it creates a very rigid boat. all the little vibrations and rattles will disappear. even the motor will feel like it's running smoother.
Tall Timber it is and it will absorb water. Extruded polystyrene like is used in this video does Not absorb water. I eliminated 150 lbs of weight cutting out the waterlogged pour in foam that the manufacturer installed. I installed Dow XPS blue foam (added extra foam the manufacturer saw no need in putting in) and it has performed very well as floatation and zero absorption. Just because someone manufactures a boat doesn’t mean they are God. The crap they installed had me burning extra gas and cutting speed.
Your boat is a life jacket. Nice
Your boat is looking awesome. That was some really clean foam work. The framing looks really robust (also EXPENSIVE) but worth it. Looks like it will last forever. I would put some exterior puncture protection on the bow and the bottom and you have yourself a lifetime boat.. I'm going to deck mine with some sheet cork. Cool on the feet and you can get as decorative as you want with paint or lines or carving, whatever. I think it's the best and never seen it on a tinney. Keep it wet.
I can appreciate nice neat work!!!!
Thank you!
Nice info, great video, thanks for making it!
Wow. I've been wanting to do up a Jon boat and this thing is sick.
Thanks man!
Nice job man. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks man!
God it's getting so close ! man the anticipation is killing me.
Hahaha yeah man on the home stretch!!
You here in ga looks looks like looks like I saw stone mountain park
Yup! Love that place
You teaching me young buck.
I like the idea. I do have a concern. Because the foam is not adhered to the boat, I think the water will just pop it out of place and then become useless. Maybe some 3M adhesive spray would work?
Love the build your doing. I'm getting ideas for up coming build. I know the reasons for the foam but wanted to know if you bond it to the various surfaces or does it just rest in place? Also who was the supplier for the live well you installed? Thanks for sharing your project. P.S. The tutorials on how you did things is super valuable.
Awesome! Im glad to hear it helps! The foam just sits in place. I cut them a hair too big so they kinda squeeze in place. I got it from @greatlakesskipper. I have a video on it, I think its called "livewell part 1, where I go over it and have a link in the description for the one i bought. They have all different sizes
What size rivets did you use on your floor framing on the boat build?
Theres a Murder Creek in Ga where you from ???
You have the best montage music
thank you
How do you get the foam on the side walls to stick? Shouldn't it be adhered to the boat? If not, if the boat took on water, the foam would float away.
on the framing how did you attach it didi you attach it to the boat or is it just sitting on the eck and you can remove it when you want to?
yOU CAN 4X8 SHEETS OF CLOSED CELL FOAM AT HOME DEPOT
are you gluing down the foam?
No
What foam is that, and is it close cell?
Pink foam sheets from home depot. closed cell. is great unless you have fuel for an outboard. Gas will eat this foam
school me in the game... Why the foam? May be an obvious question/answer, but I've got a 10ft and I'm thinking of decking the front, would I need foam? Send me a link if you covered this in another video. Thanks
Sunday's video will be about why you should put foam in a boat. I will be able to answer your question in more detail there, because you are not the only one asking. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching!
The foam will keep it from sinking when it's full of water but how does adding foam make the boat displace more water allowing it to handle heavier loads?
Sick and tired Of complaining
It doesn’t. Not even when using the right foam....
My only concern is that the foam would completely melt if gas ever touched that stuff
How do you determine how much foam you need?
Honestly I didn't. I really just tried to fill every area that I could
Where did you get the foam from
HD
Where do you get your foam at?
home depot
What kind of foam
Pink 2" home depot
yes
Wouldn't it have been easier to add the foam first?
Yes. Yes it would have haha
man how many boxes of rivets you go thru
a good bit haha
Why not pour foam?
I'm doing pour foam in the rebuild
Whats foam do?
Im using it serve a few purposes. It is giving me a level base for my flooring, its also going to reduce noise against the aluminum, and just to help keep the boat afloat if it was to take on water. Hope that answers your question
it does, is there anyway i can contact you for ideas for my jon boat?
yeah man fireantfishing88@gmail.com
@@fireantfishing Just bought a 12 foot johnboat aluminum. My first boat at 74 years old. Want to do some quiet fishing. It weighs 144 pounds. What do you suggest for an electric motor and deep cell battery please? thank you!
did you use any adhesive for the foam?
to attach the foam to the boat?
I'm at this stage now. How did you secure the foam on the sides? That would be a huge help.
FOAM IS A SOUND DEADENER AND WILL MAKE YOUR BOAT QUIET NO DRUM EFFECT WHEN WATER SPLASHES ON THE HULL
Just hope no gas leak or there will be no foam left just a sticky mess
You have missed the point of floatation foam and so have many the viewers. Floatation foam is used to create a neutral buoyancy WHEN the boat takes on water and sinks. First, the foam fills cavities in boat that would otherwise fill with water. Second, the foam when installed correctly will keep the damaged boat level when filled with water up to the gunwales. Pink wall styrofoam does not have enough buoyancy to do this and is a waste of time and money. Lastly, if you have water in your foam either you have a hole in the hull OR you are storing your boat without a cover and level. To avoid this put a good cover on the boat and tilt the bow your boat upwards to drain any water while stored. Floatation foam is not a sponge. However, it will soak up water over time. Please look over USCG book www.uscgboating.org/regulations/assets/builders-handbook/FLOTATION.pdf
Thank you for your comment and that info! very helpful!
Imtheonlybran wasted money, using open-cell insulation foam for flotation
That does not negate buoyancy calculations. You can use any foam you want as long as you can fill the negative spaces and you do the math first
Soooooo should I add foam or is it a waste?
Quote "Imtheonlybran"
Pink Foam Styrofoam or Extruded Polystyrene weighs 3.1 lbs per cubic foot.
Water weighs 62.4 lbs per cubic ft.
Pink Foam provides 59.3 lbs per cubic foot of net flotation, you don't get much better than that.
Each 4X8 Sheet of the 2 inch Foamular 150 he was using is 5.33 cubic feet of foam or 315.6 lbs net gained buoyancy when the boat is swamped.
Fiberglass the foam with 6oz cloth and epoxy resin and it can sit in the water a 100 years and never absorb a drop.
Fiberglass and resin will drop the net buoyancy by a couple of lbs but you are still gaining ~57 lbs per cubic foot of water proof buoyancy.
first thing I did on my brand new boat was remove all the foam. All it does is soak up water and add weight.
Did you use a different type of foam or anything?
Gerald Roemer Well that is not EXACTLY true! Foam deadens noise, adds flotation to prevent sinking and if done properly stiffens the boat.
All foams do not adsorb water! SOME DO SOME DON’T.
I have several boats some with foam some without. It’s a trade off like everything else.
SORRY BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT MAN.... this foaming job makes little sense. sure, it will offer some insulation benefits. and if you do take on water. it will slow the inevitable. but what it won't do is save the boat. and yes, i know that "most" incidents won't be so traumatic. and most boaters will be able to make it to a nearby refuge.
BUT... i'm retired USAF and have a wife and 3 kids. so maybes and likelys don't cut it for me. i need to know that i'm prepared for even the most serious of events.
i have an 18ft glass bottom(acrylic sheets) jet boat (don't get to excited... it's only a 30hp engine :) its a mostly wood with some aluminum components design. and it is divided into 8 total compartments. thus, puncturing multiple compartments wont bring it down. plus, i used expanding foam rather than sheets. this enabled me to fill in every little gap of air throughout the boat. therefore, even if you take a serious puncture. there is nowhere for the water to fill, period.
another benefit is that because of the foams nature to adhere to most surfaces. it creates a very rigid boat. all the little vibrations and rattles will disappear. even the motor will feel like it's running smoother.
governmentcheese411 I believe spray foam is open cell and will absorb water and add weight very quickly. In not sure you are as safe as you think?
Tall Timber it is and it will absorb water. Extruded polystyrene like is used in this video does Not absorb water. I eliminated 150 lbs of weight cutting out the waterlogged pour in foam that the manufacturer installed. I installed Dow XPS blue foam (added extra foam the manufacturer saw no need in putting in) and it has performed very well as floatation and zero absorption. Just because someone manufactures a boat doesn’t mean they are God. The crap they installed had me burning extra gas and cutting speed.
Very nice job and some good ideas but the music was absolutely terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great project. I can't wait to finish mine. Check out my channel if you have time.
will do man, thanks
Video was going good until the music started. Not sure why posters feel the need for music.