The Dynasty That Almost Was | Cleveland in the 90s
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I became a Tribe fan because of their futility in the 80s.
The 90s teams were AMAZING!
If the strike didn’t happen. Cleveland would have won 6 straight division titles.
Ironically, ever since that movie came out, we have been one of the most consistent and best ran franchises in baseball over these past few decades. Especially in developing young talent and making great trades. We are so lucky to have the first pick soon but whoever we pick is just as lucky to come to a franchise that develops players so well.
The 90s indians and the 90s mariners both are the same to me
95 was the mariners shot. 97 was yours. Both at the expense of the yankees
And yes i know you guys beat the mariners.
@@DillDough-dn4eb the 90s Indians are way above the 90s mariners. The mariners didn’t have a shot in 1995, the Indians did. In 95, the braves would have swept the mariners
@@DillDough-dn4eb the Indians whooped the Yankees throughout the 90s with the except 1998
This was a good team to watch in the 90s, White Sox dropped a few division titles bc of this team during that stretch unfortunately for Chicago.. as a complete team, gotta respect them.
Indians and Orioles were so similar in the 90s. Loaded lineups, stellar bullpen and not quite enough starting pitching.
Been a fan since i was a kid. Those years had huge glimpses of hope for a world series win. This season shows promise. Still sad they had to change their name. Still the tribe and will always be. GO TRIBE!!
That that White Sox/Indians rivalry could have been!! Man!! I loved that Cleveland team.
Man i miss the Wahoo Indian logo. Im sorry but i do
I hear you. Most of us do, along with the gorgeous Washington Redskins logo. The absolutely sickening and pathetic part about it, is, poll after poll, showed that 90% or more of Native Americans not only didn't have a problem with it, but actually liked both teams, names and logos. Leave it to the white liberals in this country to stir up a hornet's nest, when there's not even any hornets. And never apologize, Sir. There's nothing to be sorry about.
I thought I may, but I like the new uniforms without him, especially the City Connect CLE ones.
I honestly think calling them Guardians instead of Indians is the worst part. Too similar. I wish they were called something that sounds different, like the Spiders or the Steamers or the Mistakes.
@@rocketimpossible5196The Mistakes!!!😂😅 Awesome!! Still miss Wahoo
6:01 you got the wrong alomar as Roberto was with the Blue Jays that year.
It was kind of difficult to find certain clips, although i’m working on matching it a lot better in future videos. But for older baseball videos it can be hard. Thanks for watching!
Thanks to TH-cam algorithm for making me find this video. Cleveland could of been a great team but unfortunately couldn’t do it
My Yankees were standing in the way, in the 90s. I'll tell you, though, most Yankees fans considered the 1998 ALCS to be the REAL World Series. You guys would've smoked San Diego (The Whale's Vagina) as easily as the Yankees did. You would have beaten the Braves in 95 as well, if not for a couple of sissy pitchers from Atlanta, getting a constant strike zone, anywhere from 2 inches off the plate, to the on deck circle. Something that went on for the entire decade of the 90s, and something that I consider to be a far worse scandal than steroids.
Wild thing
Not Guardians...INDIANS !
Great historical video. However, how can you omit the tragic accident that the live of the young pitcher names Orr?
Don’t feel bad for us. We don’t need it. We love our team. No matter what stupid name they give us. We’ll get a series one day. Or not. But I’ll be there next week irregardless.
0:29 longest ACTIVE drought.
The Jays potentially could've had a dynasty, especially if they won their 3rd World Series in a row in 1994
WTF are you talking about? BJs were 16 games out of first place.
More like if they hadn't choked in 1985 and 1987, and had gotten to the World Series in 1989 and 1991.
Sabbathia didn’t start until 2001
You’re right he was still in the minors in the 90s. At first I had only mentioned when he was drafted, then I changed that part and forgot to change Sabbathia to Charles Nagy. My mistake, thanks for bringing up and thanks for watching!
@Baseball_Mania3 CC had played along side of a good chunk of that core from the 90s.
As a Mets fan I'd always be rooting for them every time they played the Yankees as a kid.
@@jaredgoodyear6542 My sincere condolences. It's got to be rough being a Mets fan.
They lacked pitching , pitching wins championships
Summary: some players were used prominently, while others were seen sparingly.
That '95 world series must have been the worst umpiring I'd ever seen. The strike zone was 5 feet wide for Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz. The '97 series was burned into your brain as an Indians fan with that walk-off Edgar Renteria base hit. Such good teams and still no win.. hard to believe! Go Tribe!
The problem with the Indians is that they would never keep their good, young players. Belle, Ramirez, Thome, Lofton, Baerga, Giles, etc… They all left via free agency or were traded away. Throw in Matt Williams, Alomar, Justice, and Eddie Murray during various years. Who could you pitch to? Just imagine if the Yankees or Dodgers developed those players. They would have kept most of them and dominated for a decade.
Great subject matter and a decent attempt, but the synching of the narrative and many of the vids/photo's just don't match up correctly.
From 1901 until 1968 there were no Playoffs. If you didn't finish 1st in the AL or NL...your season was over.
That said Cleveland went to a World Series THREE TIMES from 1901 until 1995...winning in 1920 and 1948. And if they hadn't won 111 games to finish ahead of the 103-win Yankees (their most victories in the 50's) they wouldn't have made it in 1954.
Cleveland's been a contender for the Playoffs more often than not starting in the mid-90's but especially starting with their move to Jacobs Field. That beautiful ballpark helped elevate them big-time. Not even having two teams compete for a World Series in the AL helped Cleveland in old Municipal Stadium as from 1969 to 1994 they had...zero Playoff appearances.
Thome is pronounced "Tow-me" not "Tow-may". There is even a video where Thome says it.
You’re right, thank you for pointing it out and watching
@1:03 CC Sabathia never played in the 90s.. his rookie season was 2001 which was the end of the 90s Indians run
@4:00 idk who this player from south carolina is.. but it most certainly is not Charles Nagy.. you should probably put some more work into your production, it shouldnt be that difficult to display a photo of Charles Nagy when you talk about Charles Nagy
Feel like the '95 team just faced a good braves team because hearing stories about braves in the 90s they should have won more world series and had great players on the team.
But not sure why Indians never won in '97 because Florida team was new and Cleveland had veterans on the team and the team had been there a while too.
According to Hargrove, Jose Mesa's selfish pride became a major liability on the mound, and just did what he wanted.
Well informed nicely done video. Some of these comments are very ignorant which is why i have a love/hate with the internet. You handled them very maturely.
You’re my favorite comment. I appreciate the comment, thanks for watching!
The 95 indians seemed like a team of destiny. Gotta wonder if the Braves rotation holds up in the playoffs if they play a full year. The yankees becoming a dynasty didnt help out lol
Cool video!
People from Ohio: I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American and male. I thought that people from Ohio and Iowa were NICE! The Black people from Ohio that I've seen, are all nice. Most of the White Ohioans too. BUT, there are so many MEAN White Ohioans! Bob Knight, Bob Stoops, Mike Stoops, Kimberly Trenor, Royce Ziegler, and Donald Korn! Not to mention Sklylar Richardson. When White Ohioans are mean, they are MEAN!! But, Jim Tressell is a typical NICE Ohioan, that I really like.
😂😂😂 Cleveland will always be Cleveland where careers go to die
Really good and interesting video
Seems a bit off...wasn't the Cubs 100 year drought the longest of any team? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was the Cubs.
You are right. It was the Cubs. I do believe I meant to mention in the American League since, the Cubs won there last world series before 2016 in the same decade as Cleveland and the American League became a thing.
@@Baseball_Mania3 ahh, i see
@@westcoastenvy I assumed he meant Cleveland's drought is the longest current one, which it is.
The chop is not racist 😅
Nor was the team name or logo. I will NEVER stop calling them the Cleveland INDIANS, and also Washington REDSKINS. I'm a Yankees fan, but am glad to see the Indians doing well this season.
Less than a minute in and you are factually incorrect. They were on a 30 year long hiatus but they are not a futile franchise. They are world class. Get with it.
If they'd gone out and acquired a real ace like Rogers Clemens and Randy Johnson, they would have won a WS imo. Charles Nagy wasn't it.
As a Yankees fan, but clearly a bigger all around baseball fan than you, I had to stop this after one minute. So many errors/lies/laziness. CC never played in the 90’s….and you would never refer to Cleveland’s rotation of the 90’s as ‘future superstars’ as it was always known as their Achilles heal. And when talking about 1990….why are you showing clips from 1997 (Johnson vs Cleveland), or Camden yards, which didn’t exist yet. And while the Braves did beat them in 95, clearly the bigger problem was the Yankees. This is poorly done. Could have been interesting
Cc never played in the majors, he was in the minors, drafted in 98. I was going to put Charles Nagy there instead so that’s my mistake Sabbathia wasn’t a part of the 90s. As for the rotation, Jared Wright was the 10th overall pick in 94, Oral Hershiser had a Cy Young, Charles Nagy also wasnt bad, maybe not a superstar. The Yankees being a bigger problem is an opinion. Thanks for the comment!
the bigger problem was definitely the Yankees and the Red Sox during that time. As for 95 it’s UNIVERSALLY understood that the umpires had a huge strike that series. You mention Orel hershiser being a cy young Winner he was 36 and the “ace” of that squad was a 41 year old Dennis Martinez. Jaret Wright may have been a top pick but he never hit his ceiling. Especially in Cleveland. As for CC you call him one of the best lefty’s in team history. When he’s one of the best pitchers in team history. And really you couldn’t find a pic of him in a Cleveland uniform. Come on he won the Cy Young in 07. The reason those teams had all those people on the stands is that the cavs were shit and the Browns were gone. It was a perfect storm. But I was skeptical of this video when you took the name of the MLB network documentary. Most of the later stuff is fairly accurate but the opening is horrible. The Major league director chose them because he was a FAN of the team. Another point is that most teams missed the playoffs until 69 and even then only 4 teams made it until the 81 season. You don’t even mention that Alomar was the ROY in 90 and that alomar was ALL STAR GAME MVP IN 97. Bartolo didn’t really come into his own until 02. There’s a lot of good stuff as I said but there’s a lot of missteps also. It doesn’t feel like you did a lot of research and just did this all from memory.
The Yanks/Indians rivalry through my lifetime has been my favorite part of MLB. We have gone back and forth many a times in the playoffs. Always fun to play you guys in the playoffs.
I appreciate the comment. Definitely could’ve been put together better. I think i’m going to remake this video later on with a better explanation as I felt it was rushed and therefore not as good as it should’ve been. Still, thanks for watching.
@@KennysedlockHow were the Red Sox a problem in the 90s? The Indians played them 112 times throughout the decade and won 68 of those. They didn’t do anything against the Indians until 1999. Plus the yanks only beat them in 1998.
Video has the worst video edits.
You’d be suprised how difficult it can be to find older clips. Thanks for the comment though!