Great tips. For the tightness of the ridge-line, if there is slack in the line, you are more then a 30deg angle,.. but if your ridge-line is tight, it should not make a difference (unless I"m missing something, I have never noticed) Because the ridge-line is preventing the hammock from spreading out anymore, so it is forcing the hammock to maintain the 30 deg angle even if you have it less from your hang from the trees. (not sure I was able to explain it right :-)
I found (finally) one way to get that 'perfect' lay for me. I lay at the normal angle, and turn on my side... I adjust until I have a very comfortable side lay. (That is very important). Then without shuffling within the hammock, I roll towards my back to where I'm almost all the way on my back, but not quite. for some reason, that makes my body perfect flat... or it feels perfectly flat anyway. What that does, is I can switch from side to back and a few spots in between for multiple comfortable lays. Which is important for folks like me who can't sleep in just 1 position all night long. By the way, I have the Chameleon Wide version. I'm 5'10". I likely could have gone with the regular Chameleon, but really wanted enough material to eliminate any shoulder squeeze and make sure I could do a flat lay. In hind-sight, with the extra floppy material - I think the regular size would have worked just fine... but I'm not sure about that.
If a ridgeline is too tight, it does not effect comfort at all. That's the point of a ridgeline it determines the sag of the hammock, that's it. A loose ridgeline, will though because the sag of the hammock is increased. A super tight ridgeline does increase the force on the trees and hammock suspension, but doe not effect the comfort.
If you sleep on your side put a pillow between your knees. If you sleep on your back put it under your knees. Both of these things are what are done in the hospital by nurses to patients every day...
Nice matching sweatshirts. All very good tips. I've been waiting to see an overnight trip in sub zero temps with one of those fancy underquilts of yours :)
Just got a Chameleon with Hexon 1.0. I don't know how I feel about the extra sag, but fabric feel is great. Watched this video, after the one comparing the 1.0 & 1.6, trying to make sure I was doing everything right. The tie outs are new for me, and like so far, but where do you tie out in the field? Separate stake, or to a tarp guyline? Thanks for the tips
Matchy matchy, nice haha! When you were talking about the ridgeline I was thinking "Goldilocks" lol! These are good tips to start getting a baseline for your preferences. About the only one out of what you listed that i use is a 30(ish) degree hang lol. I don't use a structural ridgeline, don't use tie-out, quilt hooks, none of that stuff. Also I lay right down the middle like a banana and sleep like a baby =) Like you said, it's all individual preference and everyone's different!
You answered a question I have had lately, but you didn’t give the “why”. Can you explain why the carabiner/ Straps come from the same side of the tree? I was starting to go opposite sides to more mimic laying across the hammock instead of in the banana of the Hammock.
lacrossplaier55 ok, but I still don’t see how the stress would be different when coming from the same side or opposite side of the tree, as long as the strap is not at a severe angle. I am thinking that coming from opposite sides of the tree would actually help degrees the angle of the strap.
I could never even dream of a nights sleep that could make ANY ANY ANY of this worth the fuss. A hammock could come with a beautiful woman and a case of beer and it wouldnt even be close to worth it. This is crazy! there is NO science associated with a tent. Im bewildered ....Ive been "not" sleeping in my tent for an hour while you go through your checklist...really only to determine what you left home. No way to remember all this BS - Im listening while I type. Open tent, get in, close tent go to sleep....the end
@@leecasteen Well that just doesn't give me enough info for a full on internet battle over tents vs banana hammocks...My mother is a little over weight....maybe we start there. Happy saturday
@@nedanother9382 ha! I hear ya. Until recently I was accustomed to minimalist ground camping, usually with just a tarp and mat. My brother (AT thru hiker) told me to try a hammock. After quite the learning curve (yes it’s a lot) I only wish I had done the hammocks much much earlier. Having a GREAT night sleep when on an outing makes a big difference in my enjoyment of the outing. Each his own, but once you learn the hammock it is a far superior system for good sleep - assuming you’re not under 18 and able to sleep on wood floors.
@@leecasteen Im just having fun with it all. Im just amazed at how NOT I was a minimalist. I was chasing my tail to be prepared for everything...that never happens. Once I found simplicity and the weight it doesn't come with, I was hooked.The learning curve for me would be sleeping several nights on that ground because I forgot this or that. As long as we're out there...im itching for a trip right now but the sierra's are starting to turn quick - snow already. Cheers
No mention of a diagonal lay? I feel like that's the first lesson hangers need to lay comfortably.
Great tips. For the tightness of the ridge-line, if there is slack in the line, you are more then a 30deg angle,.. but if your ridge-line is tight, it should not make a difference (unless I"m missing something, I have never noticed) Because the ridge-line is preventing the hammock from spreading out anymore, so it is forcing the hammock to maintain the 30 deg angle even if you have it less from your hang from the trees. (not sure I was able to explain it right :-)
I found (finally) one way to get that 'perfect' lay for me. I lay at the normal angle, and turn on my side... I adjust until I have a very comfortable side lay. (That is very important). Then without shuffling within the hammock, I roll towards my back to where I'm almost all the way on my back, but not quite. for some reason, that makes my body perfect flat... or it feels perfectly flat anyway. What that does, is I can switch from side to back and a few spots in between for multiple comfortable lays. Which is important for folks like me who can't sleep in just 1 position all night long. By the way, I have the Chameleon Wide version. I'm 5'10". I likely could have gone with the regular Chameleon, but really wanted enough material to eliminate any shoulder squeeze and make sure I could do a flat lay. In hind-sight, with the extra floppy material - I think the regular size would have worked just fine... but I'm not sure about that.
If a ridgeline is too tight, it does not effect comfort at all. That's the point of a ridgeline it determines the sag of the hammock, that's it. A loose ridgeline, will though because the sag of the hammock is increased. A super tight ridgeline does increase the force on the trees and hammock suspension, but doe not effect the comfort.
Never heard the roll under your knees... I'll try that this next weekend... Thanks guys
I would have thought Ridgeline length would be an important factor...
Great video! Lots of useful points 😀
some great ideas thanks!
If you sleep on your side put a pillow between your knees. If you sleep on your back put it under your knees. Both of these things are what are done in the hospital by nurses to patients every day...
Nice matching sweatshirts. All very good tips. I've been waiting to see an overnight trip in sub zero temps with one of those fancy underquilts of yours :)
Coming very soon :)
Warbonnet basically makes you put your head end about a foot lower to use the foot box.
First backpacking video I showed to my girl she wanted to watch, think it was the title lol. Hello from Columbus.
Hey, you fucker. lol
Just got a Chameleon with Hexon 1.0. I don't know how I feel about the extra sag, but fabric feel is great. Watched this video, after the one comparing the 1.0 & 1.6, trying to make sure I was doing everything right. The tie outs are new for me, and like so far, but where do you tie out in the field? Separate stake, or to a tarp guyline?
Thanks for the tips
Getting a perfect Dorito (in your hammock)
Very good points. Nothing like cold butt syndrome to ruin a good hang. Take care and thanks, Al
Matchy matchy, nice haha! When you were talking about the ridgeline I was thinking "Goldilocks" lol! These are good tips to start getting a baseline for your preferences. About the only one out of what you listed that i use is a 30(ish) degree hang lol. I don't use a structural ridgeline, don't use tie-out, quilt hooks, none of that stuff. Also I lay right down the middle like a banana and sleep like a baby =) Like you said, it's all individual preference and everyone's different!
Thanks for the comments!
Who drinks warm alcohol?
Adjust the ridgeline or the suspension?
You answered a question I have had lately, but you didn’t give the “why”. Can you explain why the carabiner/ Straps come from the same side of the tree? I was starting to go opposite sides to more mimic laying across the hammock instead of in the banana of the Hammock.
gbolt on a Trail he said it's to put equal stress on your suspension system.
lacrossplaier55 ok, but I still don’t see how the stress would be different when coming from the same side or opposite side of the tree, as long as the strap is not at a severe angle. I am thinking that coming from opposite sides of the tree would actually help degrees the angle of the strap.
Go Blue!
Funny.... no ridge line on nu hammock...
NOT what I expected from the title. When is somebody going to talk about sex in hammock??
Hahahaha might have to do some research on this for a future video....
I could never even dream of a nights sleep that could make ANY ANY ANY of this worth the fuss. A hammock could come with a beautiful woman and a case of beer and it wouldnt even be close to worth it. This is crazy! there is NO science associated with a tent. Im bewildered ....Ive been "not" sleeping in my tent for an hour while you go through your checklist...really only to determine what you left home. No way to remember all this BS - Im listening while I type. Open tent, get in, close tent go to sleep....the end
What are you talking about? I read what you wrote twice and I'm still not sure if you like tents or hammocks...
If you know you know
@@leecasteen Well that just doesn't give me enough info for a full on internet battle over tents vs banana hammocks...My mother is a little over weight....maybe we start there.
Happy saturday
@@nedanother9382 ha! I hear ya. Until recently I was accustomed to minimalist ground camping, usually with just a tarp and mat. My brother (AT thru hiker) told me to try a hammock. After quite the learning curve (yes it’s a lot) I only wish I had done the hammocks much much earlier. Having a GREAT night sleep when on an outing makes a big difference in my enjoyment of the outing. Each his own, but once you learn the hammock it is a far superior system for good sleep - assuming you’re not under 18 and able to sleep on wood floors.
@@leecasteen Im just having fun with it all. Im just amazed at how NOT I was a minimalist. I was chasing my tail to be prepared for everything...that never happens. Once I found simplicity and the weight it doesn't come with, I was hooked.The learning curve for me would be sleeping several nights on that ground because I forgot this or that. As long as we're out there...im itching for a trip right now but the sierra's are starting to turn quick - snow already. Cheers
Go Blue!