A couple weeks ago my wife needed a new locker padlock at the gym/pool she goes to due to a rash of thefts and the prevalence of cheap Master combination locks (including hers). Thanks to this channel I was quickly able to veto about 95% of the locks for sale at the hardware store we went to as being just as crappy, if not even worse, as what she was already using.
@@BL-yj2wp A brass five-pin Yale padlock with a hardened steel shank. I figured nobody was cruising the locker rooms with bolt cutters, lock picks, or other burglary tools. The vast majority were Master locks that you could open with a harsh glare and a wag of your finger, and really cheap storage unit locks like he did a couple weeks back. Honestly, for an Ace Hardware you'd expect better options.
@@BL-yj2wp A few rolls of duct tape. We all know duct tape around a lock keeps LPL busy longer than any lock can. And if you want you still can add a few rats and cockroaches and Mark Robers glitter bomb inside of the locker and you should be fine.
We had a pick party after Thanksgiving dinner that went over big. Got 12 Master locks of various sizes, mostly old some new, and a bunch of picks and turning tools. Had a blast watching people who never picked a lock fiddling around watching TH-cam videos. It was great.
Maybe it's a lock they only sell in bulk, hence why it comes in a plain box. The lock information would be on the wholesale outer packaging that contains all the smaller boxes inside.
I've purchased genuine ASSA high quality locks in person from an ASSA owned retailer and they came in generic zip lock bags . At over $200 for the set .
Those are quite common in German hardware stores as a medium price range (around 15 to 20 Euros) lock. I have one on my trailer's hitch lock. Until now, the trailer hasn't been stolen ;)
Well that does not have to mean anything. I had a garage that could not be locked for a few years ant nothing got stolen. I'm 100% sure it wasn't the quality of the locks that kept thieves out of the garage.
We used 2 of these locks in the garden to secure the storage of our tools and the main building. After 5 years both looks stopt working and we weren't able to turn the core to open the lock. After a lot of work, I managed to open the lock and something fell out, I believe that it was the part of the core that holds the springs and pins in place. Took me about 30 - 40 minutes to open each lock without powertools.
@@Emptiness_Machine_2001 probably. But old doesn't mean bad. This where really reliable, good locks. Never had any problems with it. We changed the lock only, because we became a new front door, and the old lock was to short for the new door.
Probably because until then they were a standalone company before being purchased by Assa-Abloy. Seems like Assa-Abloy keep a number of brands under their "hat", but still keep the various brand uniqueness alive. Could be that they have standardized on pins and springs but housings could vary. Primarily by market. It might be an interesting deep dive to look at that company and how the various brands are kept alive.
"Ships from Bulgaria," according to one site that sells it. There was also one sold recently on eBay from Sofia, Bulgaria. It turns out Assa Abloy has a manufacturing facility in Varna, Bulgaria, though they apparently operate there under the name Dekaba.
The title has a typo. It’s listed as video 1477, when the previous video is video 1576, then 1575, and so on. In reality, the video should be video 1577. Just thought I’d point that out as it’s been a day since the posting of this video and the typo has yet to be corrected. Aside from that, stellar work as usual LPL!
he needs a door mounted on a frame and a latch and do it standing up with the lock actually locked to something just like he would actually have to do in real life..
@@DAVE_WHITE: Nah, he'd spend way too much time mounting locks on door frames. Besides, in many ways, it's actually more difficult to pick an unmounted lock.
I didn't catch it on sale but I just ordered one of your Genesis kits. Going to add it to my stable of trusty old Southord stuff that i've had for years. Haven't picked for fun in a while. Last pick was to help my brother get a hitch lock off of his truck that he'd long misplaced the key for. Which was only probably about 2 years ago. Before that the only opportunity i've had to put my picks to a real world test was to help my brother's now ex-wife's parents get their keys out of their shed after locking them in. Anyways very glad to see that you're selling your own hardware now. Can't wait to get mine, Will probably upgrade eventually to the larger set. Happy New Year!
Multiple spools, decent amount of pins, good quality workmanship - definitely above average, and something that will turn away inexperienced pickers and many simple attacks. Basically, if it’s in a public place and you aren’t being attacked by an expert, this will at least get them noticed before they open the lock.
It has security pins and required him to pick at least pin 1 twice. LPL is extremely skilled at lockpicking so it took him about as long as it'd likely take me to open a masterlock with a wave rake. The novice lock picker will probably be working on this lock for several minutes at the minimum. It would deter the casual thief who'd find a less secure target. A determined intruder would probably resort to a destructive attack to the lock or whatever it was securing to get in. In other words, it's perfectly fine for a gym locker or possibly a shed (depending on its weather resistance) but probably not how you'd want to secure your piles of gold bricks.
My storage facility uses these exact ones. They gave me one when I rented space to put on my door and I figured they were cheap but It's indoor space and camera monitored halls. The people are there 24/7 and it's gated access only.
He only picked it once, I’ll need him to pick it again to show me it was not a fluke 🤪 Also just noticed the video is labelled 1477, shouldn’t it be 1577??
I know, it’s a joke. Rakes and other low skill methods can occasionally fluke the lock open hence the do it twice test but I’m never here early enough to make a joke usually so I took my opportunity and I regret nothing.
Lol .... I just had a random thought. It would be hilarious if storage wars hired you to open the locks on the storage containers rather than them using bolt cutters lol
I think that a lot of the time they just do it for show. I've noticed quite a few times the locks are cheap dollar store junk that nobody would really use on a storage locker.
Lol. All of those lockers have already been opened and staged for the show. They've been accused of planting items to make the show interesting. Next time you watch one look at the sides of the boxes. Many of the name brands have brown tape over the logos.
@@fauxque5057 That's the tell-tale sign. Who puts tape over the brand names of boxes in their storage unit just in case a TV company starts filming when it's first opened after you've abandoned it years later???
I have one of these in my unused lock box. It secured a cargo container in the woods for at least 3 years and seems to be free of corrosion and is perfectly functional. The container also had one of those master lock combination locks that can be popped open in 2 seconds. All the wheels seem to want to turn in unison and it barely opens. Edit: I'm fairly certain I purchased this at Atwoods or Northern in the USA.
I've got one of these. I'm a novice picker & gave up trying to pick it after about 2 hours. This guy's incredible skillset should not be underestimated!
he did come in first place in a picking competition by a significant margin so im not surprised he accidentally beast modes it on cheap locks like this
I love that z lock picked in seconds is "above average" XD I Know he's a super experienced lockpicker but still. "Hmm, yeah it;s above average pick resistance"
Oh! I used to have one of those to lock my bicycle! It's a great average lock, although after several years of use exposed to the elements it created enough resistance that eventually the key broke off in the lock. Still, it was only 20 EUR from a bike lock shop, so just good enough to deter bicycle thieves.
Zeiss Ikon makes custom solutions. Usually they are used in big organizations and can even come with multi layer access on analogue cylinders. Let's say tenants have a separate key per appartment, but also use teh same key to open the same laundry room in the basement. Or manager vs opener/closer keys for restaurants.
My sister just got screwed over by both her storage facility and a locksmith. She lost the key to her lock on the day of her move, so the facility said they had someone who could cut it off. She got there and they said they had no such person and that she would have to call a locksmith. He couldn't figure out the lock so he just hit it with a grinder. Total bill? $400. To show up and spend two minutes cutting a storage unit lock. So yeah, I just ordered the learning kit from Covert Instruments. We're not dealing with that again.
The shipping container we have has one of these types of locks. It's protected by a metal cover welded to the container, there's just enough room to reach up inside to get the key in the lock, locking picking tools wouldn't fit. Maybe they welded the cover on because they knew how easy the locks are to pick.
It is nice to see that LPL is going back to basics again. As much as I love this channel, I am getting quite bored with videos that have nothing to do with actual lock picking. There were several videos with bags being tested on being cut and/or slash proof, wrenching locks, destroying locks with a Ramset and car door locks always being opened with a Lishi. And I admit; those Lishi's are brilliant, but somehow a Lishi in the hands of LPL just doesn't seem quite right. I loved the video's where LPL is making short work of really beefy, well engineered locks such as the Squire's and ERA's. I really would like to see those kind of locks return on this channel. Also the mysterious packages sent in by viewers that are being opened on camera. The old locks that are probably forgotten by many that originate from all over the world, a history lesson that comes with it about the lock.... And I am quite sure that, like me, there are many more people who would want to see LPL finally picking the Bowley lock.
I'd like to see tips on picking this kind of lock in it's natural form, meaning when locked to something you have to pick it upside down. A motion many may be unused to.
I know that Assa Abloy sometimes brands products of their other subsidiaries as IKON products for the German market, to capitalize on the brand recognition or something along those lines. Things like Abloy Protec locks are available with Ikon branding at some German locksmiths. Could it be that this disc lock is made by a different manufacturer that does business under the Assa Abloy umbrella?
Whenever I watch one of our hosts videos, I am reminded of the old phrase that locks only serve to keep honest people honest! Folk with criminal intent are getting in regardless.
I don’t know how your channel appeared in my feed, but you are awesome. I may be able to make a hobby out of this. I’m working on a jobsite that has been shut down/abandoned since 2011, and there were locks on everything outside. I had to check for power for the grading guys, so I had to carry a drill and a 1/4” bit to drill all the locks out to get them open to check for power. The superintendent went through with a grinder cutting a few. I got 6 to his 3. Also, he got stung. There were wasps in every thing we opened, but they got him in action while grinding. It would’ve been really to go in and pick 5 while he was grinding on one getting stung! I mean that’s bad but still would’ve been cool to exploit such a skill.
Hey LPL, are there any locks on the market who you would say there are truly pick resistant? The bowley Lock maybe? Are there any news on the it? Did you pick it?
The looseness of the cylinder (moving forward and back) is something I've found on poor quality versions of this type of lock which oddly (just like roughly machined pins in pig iron padlocks) can make them a little more awkward to pick. I would have thought it was a sign that this IKON lock is a cheap copy, also having a brass cylinder not steel, but I wouldn't have expected security pins in a cheap copy lock. So it's a odd thing indeed.
I picked my first cheapo Masterlock today using the CI starter kit. I can get it open most tries in about 20 seconds. I don't really know HOW I'm doing it, but I am doing it.
I have one of these no name disc locks and I cannot get it open for my life, there's almost no feedback pins are just mushy and don't seem to set no matter how much, or little I tension it lol. It can't be raked either
I've a disk lock I've had similar problems with. Mushy pins, can't feel a binder, little to no feedback. I had to use a LOT of tension to get it open. When I say a lot, I mean so much that my turning was bending, digging into and hurting my hand. So much it felt like something might break. So maybe you also just need an absurd amount of tension to feel something
@@bad_wulph I've tried A LOT of tension so much so two hours later my finger has an indent in it. And the funny thing is if you look at the biting on the key it looks like a bump key lol. Like it should open by accident. I'm still a "new" picker because it's not been quite a year yet I've been doing it but in my limited experience it's the super cheap no name locks that can be the most challenging. The tolerances are so bad it's almost a security feature. But I'll take your advice and only use super high tension with it from now on. Thank you
@@TRIIGGAVELLI you may also just need to set it aside for a while and come back when you have more experience. That's what I had to do with it, I'm new-ish also. The tension I had to use may not be what you need. Are you sure there isn't a pin in the back you're missing? One of mine has a pin in the back that sits really low, so low that my standard hook doesn't fit under it when I'm using bottom-of-keyway tension. I end up hitting the side of it instead, which can trick you into thinking you've hit the back of the lock.
I saw a bunch of about two dozen of these disc locks and they had a bunch of different types of keys. I am guessing you can easily replace the key lock in these with whatever you want. Some were really cheap others were really expensive
Most of them don't have replaceable cores cos they're welded together in the factory. Many many manufacturers make these types of lock and some make several different grades of them too.
IIRC these are basically B2B bulk models. Thus the plain-cardboard-box packaging and meager online footprint. Neither party wanna deal with wasteful and cumbersome retail packaging when buying and deploying a couple of hundreds or several thousands of these things.
I swear I bought a copy of this lock with the Ace Hardware logo on it. I wonder if IKON sells this generic lock to companies with their logo embossed on it?
It would be funny to send him a lock that has all the parts of a normal lock but only opens by a hidden random digital opener. He would be trying to pick forever.
I still havent beat my generic cheap lock of this style. It’s not the pins that are the problem but the tumbler itself seems to have some misalignment inside. When using the key you really have to force it to turn the mechanism. This makes picking quite difficult
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A couple weeks ago my wife needed a new locker padlock at the gym/pool she goes to due to a rash of thefts and the prevalence of cheap Master combination locks (including hers). Thanks to this channel I was quickly able to veto about 95% of the locks for sale at the hardware store we went to as being just as crappy, if not even worse, as what she was already using.
What did you end up going with?
@@BL-yj2wp Probably a welding torch and an angle grinder
His work here is done.
@@BL-yj2wp A brass five-pin Yale padlock with a hardened steel shank. I figured nobody was cruising the locker rooms with bolt cutters, lock picks, or other burglary tools.
The vast majority were Master locks that you could open with a harsh glare and a wag of your finger, and really cheap storage unit locks like he did a couple weeks back. Honestly, for an Ace Hardware you'd expect better options.
@@BL-yj2wp A few rolls of duct tape. We all know duct tape around a lock keeps LPL busy longer than any lock can. And if you want you still can add a few rats and cockroaches and Mark Robers glitter bomb inside of the locker and you should be fine.
He put the lock aside to talk more about the company stuff, and then picked it in under 30 seconds.
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Still longer than a master lock
You know I’d actually love to see how you store your lock collection. I’m imagining shelves of bins.
I guess it's not shelves but locked boxes containing lots of more locked boxes and so on.
@@РомаПетров-ж1нThey're all hooked up to the front door like paranoid old man from a cartoon
The LPL has a bridge in Paris where he stores his locks ;)
Do you by any chance recall the closing scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark?...
@@РомаПетров-ж1нA Russian doll of lock boxes ya reckon mate? Sounds about his style. 🤷♂😂🤣
We had a pick party after Thanksgiving dinner that went over big.
Got 12 Master locks of various sizes, mostly old some new, and a bunch of picks and turning tools.
Had a blast watching people who never picked a lock fiddling around watching TH-cam videos.
It was great.
How many managed to open their locks?
Great idea for Thanksgiving!
@@BionicLemming Not a single one, LoL
LPL out there creating new family traditions
that actually sounds like a lot of fun
Maybe it's a lock they only sell in bulk, hence why it comes in a plain box. The lock information would be on the wholesale outer packaging that contains all the smaller boxes inside.
I've purchased genuine ASSA high quality locks in person from an ASSA owned retailer and they came in generic zip lock bags . At over $200 for the set .
@@johndododoe1411 You don't need fancy packaging when the locks speak for itself.
@MikkoRantalainen that's why Master Lock makes their packaging jump out at you and scream, "I'm important!"
It may be an Assa Abloy internals which are sold covertly (little publishing) to benefit from economies of scale of components.
i dont understand how he cant find any info literally everyone know you can find out anything with GOOGLE
Those are quite common in German hardware stores as a medium price range (around 15 to 20 Euros) lock. I have one on my trailer's hitch lock. Until now, the trailer hasn't been stolen ;)
I was about to write the same - having the same one, but I'm also German, so we see them all over the place here...
Well that does not have to mean anything. I had a garage that could not be locked for a few years ant nothing got stolen. I'm 100% sure it wasn't the quality of the locks that kept thieves out of the garage.
"Until now" implies that it just happened. "To this day" would be more in line with what I think your intent was.
@@rkstevenson5448 Yea but now the thieves have a video guide :p
@@rkstevenson5448 Thanks for teaching us some english
Lock is a Zeiss Ikon. It is just that the "Zeiss" bit is now a stylised ZI (left of the word IKON) and thus a bit hard to read.
We used 2 of these locks in the garden to secure the storage of our tools and the main building.
After 5 years both looks stopt working and we weren't able to turn the core to open the lock. After a lot of work, I managed to open the lock and something fell out, I believe that it was the part of the core that holds the springs and pins in place. Took me about 30 - 40 minutes to open each lock without powertools.
Till the 80s this brand was labeled "Zeiss Ikon". We had a lock from them on our front door. Euro zylinder of course, I live in Germany.
My Garage door still says Zeiss ikon. Is it that old?
@@Emptiness_Machine_2001 probably. But old doesn't mean bad. This where really reliable, good locks. Never had any problems with it. We changed the lock only, because we became a new front door, and the old lock was to short for the new door.
I still have one of their early compact cameras from the 50s and it works perfectly.
Probably because until then they were a standalone company before being purchased by Assa-Abloy.
Seems like Assa-Abloy keep a number of brands under their "hat", but still keep the various brand uniqueness alive. Could be that they have standardized on pins and springs but housings could vary. Primarily by market. It might be an interesting deep dive to look at that company and how the various brands are kept alive.
"Ships from Bulgaria," according to one site that sells it. There was also one sold recently on eBay from Sofia, Bulgaria.
It turns out Assa Abloy has a manufacturing facility in Varna, Bulgaria, though they apparently operate there under the name Dekaba.
Interesting
The title has a typo. It’s listed as video 1477, when the previous video is video 1576, then 1575, and so on. In reality, the video should be video 1577. Just thought I’d point that out as it’s been a day since the posting of this video and the typo has yet to be corrected. Aside from that, stellar work as usual LPL!
Even after years of viewing LPL vids, I never cease to be amazed at his skills.
he needs a door mounted on a frame and a latch and do it standing up with the lock actually locked to something just like he would actually have to do in real life..
@@DAVE_WHITE: Nah, he'd spend way too much time mounting locks on door frames. Besides, in many ways, it's actually more difficult to pick an unmounted lock.
@@SMac-bq8sk no as an unmounted lock he has access to all sides and angles whereas a mounted lock inhibits where he can move and or place the tools
I watched one of his videos from seven years he has come a long ways.
@@DAVE_WHITEHe has those videos
Great video as always. I still love how your wife got around your ice cream lock
I didn't catch it on sale but I just ordered one of your Genesis kits. Going to add it to my stable of trusty old Southord stuff that i've had for years. Haven't picked for fun in a while. Last pick was to help my brother get a hitch lock off of his truck that he'd long misplaced the key for. Which was only probably about 2 years ago. Before that the only opportunity i've had to put my picks to a real world test was to help my brother's now ex-wife's parents get their keys out of their shed after locking them in. Anyways very glad to see that you're selling your own hardware now. Can't wait to get mine, Will probably upgrade eventually to the larger set. Happy New Year!
Nicely done.
"better than I expected", "above average", proceeds to pick it without any hurry and finishes it in 23 seconds. I am amazed every single time. :D
I'm happy to see a lock picked instead of raked. Lock raking is just dullsville at this point.
Placed my order within minutes of the sale announcement. Covert companion and expansion pack plus a couple individual picks.
LPL after picking the lock open in 25 sec: "it's above average".
Multiple spools, decent amount of pins, good quality workmanship - definitely above average, and something that will turn away inexperienced pickers and many simple attacks.
Basically, if it’s in a public place and you aren’t being attacked by an expert, this will at least get them noticed before they open the lock.
It has security pins and required him to pick at least pin 1 twice. LPL is extremely skilled at lockpicking so it took him about as long as it'd likely take me to open a masterlock with a wave rake. The novice lock picker will probably be working on this lock for several minutes at the minimum. It would deter the casual thief who'd find a less secure target. A determined intruder would probably resort to a destructive attack to the lock or whatever it was securing to get in.
In other words, it's perfectly fine for a gym locker or possibly a shed (depending on its weather resistance) but probably not how you'd want to secure your piles of gold bricks.
I mean, it wasn't raked, nor opened with a shim, juice jug, mallet, a random twig he got from a tree in front of his house ...
Well, when the average lock can be opened by a bypass tool, a rake or a comb pick, that is not a very high bar to defeat.
Coming from him, I'd buy that lock.
My storage facility uses these exact ones. They gave me one when I rented space to put on my door and I figured they were cheap but It's indoor space and camera monitored halls. The people are there 24/7 and it's gated access only.
How sad is it that if a rake or comb doesn't make an appearance, I think "that's probably an okay lock"?
If I hear "false set" and "counter rotation" I know it is good enough for my needs.
@@TWFydGluLol Me too.
He only picked it once, I’ll need him to pick it again to show me it was not a fluke 🤪
Also just noticed the video is labelled 1477, shouldn’t it be 1577??
If you have watched him long enough you will know that he does the re-picking for raking and other low skill attacks, not single pin picking.
I know, it’s a joke. Rakes and other low skill methods can occasionally fluke the lock open hence the do it twice test but I’m never here early enough to make a joke usually so I took my opportunity and I regret nothing.
This channel is a learning curve for criminals...
Lol .... I just had a random thought. It would be hilarious if storage wars hired you to open the locks on the storage containers rather than them using bolt cutters lol
They can't reuse those locks because someone has the key
If they had something like 10 units to open, LPL could do a speed run!
I think that a lot of the time they just do it for show. I've noticed quite a few times the locks are cheap dollar store junk that nobody would really use on a storage locker.
Lol. All of those lockers have already been opened and staged for the show. They've been accused of planting items to make the show interesting.
Next time you watch one look at the sides of the boxes. Many of the name brands have brown tape over the logos.
@@fauxque5057 That's the tell-tale sign. Who puts tape over the brand names of boxes in their storage unit just in case a TV company starts filming when it's first opened after you've abandoned it years later???
I have one of these in my unused lock box. It secured a cargo container in the woods for at least 3 years and seems to be free of corrosion and is perfectly functional. The container also had one of those master lock combination locks that can be popped open in 2 seconds. All the wheels seem to want to turn in unison and it barely opens. Edit: I'm fairly certain I purchased this at Atwoods or Northern in the USA.
I've got one of these. I'm a novice picker & gave up trying to pick it after about 2 hours. This guy's incredible skillset should not be underestimated!
You were holding nothing back here, to show how incredibly fast you are, picking a 5-pin lock with spool pins in mere seconds. Truly amazing! 😵💪🏻
he did come in first place in a picking competition by a significant margin so im not surprised he accidentally beast modes it on cheap locks like this
@@slademmxii8759 His idea of relaxing, is watching movies while picking locks, so I'm not surprised either! Still amazing though.
One of the few ads with a side serving of 10 seconds to pick a lock 😂
Rick & Morty tv series gave this channel a small shout-out in the latest Season 7 Episode 7. :3
I love that z lock picked in seconds is "above average" XD
I Know he's a super experienced lockpicker but still. "Hmm, yeah it;s above average pick resistance"
Makes me think; it would be hard to establish an average. Also questionable if Master should bring down the rest of the class's grade that much lol.
Oh! I used to have one of those to lock my bicycle! It's a great average lock, although after several years of use exposed to the elements it created enough resistance that eventually the key broke off in the lock. Still, it was only 20 EUR from a bike lock shop, so just good enough to deter bicycle thieves.
Glad I picked up that set when I did! Can't wait to get my package and start learning how to pick
Must’ve been a fluke… I only saw you do it once 😅
Thankful for LPL video.
It took him twice as long to explain that the lock may be illegitimate as it took him to pick
Zeiss Ikon makes custom solutions. Usually they are used in big organizations and can even come with multi layer access on analogue cylinders. Let's say tenants have a separate key per appartment, but also use teh same key to open the same laundry room in the basement. Or manager vs opener/closer keys for restaurants.
That musta been a flook since you didn’t do it twice and tell us it wasn’t. Lol. Jkjk. Nice work as always.
A lot of storage companies sell generic looking locks so I'm wondering if these could be one of them.
Round locks are the perfect shape to hold while you pick it
Would be nice if you had a shop in Europe for selling your picks
I bought a FNG for the sale, I'm super excited to try and see if I like it.
"Better than expected" and "above average but nothing special" is high praise coming from LPL.
@LockPickingLawyer, You've got a typo in the title. I'ts video [1577]
My sister just got screwed over by both her storage facility and a locksmith. She lost the key to her lock on the day of her move, so the facility said they had someone who could cut it off. She got there and they said they had no such person and that she would have to call a locksmith.
He couldn't figure out the lock so he just hit it with a grinder. Total bill? $400. To show up and spend two minutes cutting a storage unit lock.
So yeah, I just ordered the learning kit from Covert Instruments. We're not dealing with that again.
The shipping container we have has one of these types of locks. It's protected by a metal cover welded to the container, there's just enough room to reach up inside to get the key in the lock, locking picking tools wouldn't fit. Maybe they welded the cover on because they knew how easy the locks are to pick.
I'd love to buy some stuff from Covert but the cost of shipping to Australia makes it impractical.
I know what you mean. Shipping to the UK from the US is extortionate. A shame really because I would love his bypass kit and combo lock pick set.
It is nice to see that LPL is going back to basics again. As much as I love this channel, I am getting quite bored with videos that have nothing to do with actual lock picking. There were several videos with bags being tested on being cut and/or slash proof, wrenching locks, destroying locks with a Ramset and car door locks always being opened with a Lishi. And I admit; those Lishi's are brilliant, but somehow a Lishi in the hands of LPL just doesn't seem quite right. I loved the video's where LPL is making short work of really beefy, well engineered locks such as the Squire's and ERA's. I really would like to see those kind of locks return on this channel. Also the mysterious packages sent in by viewers that are being opened on camera. The old locks that are probably forgotten by many that originate from all over the world, a history lesson that comes with it about the lock.... And I am quite sure that, like me, there are many more people who would want to see LPL finally picking the Bowley lock.
Lol the ABUS that is for sure original looks like a counterfeit next to this. Great looking lock.
I love to see you take apart some of these locks and show internals if your allowed cheers
I'd like to see tips on picking this kind of lock in it's natural form, meaning when locked to something you have to pick it upside down. A motion many may be unused to.
Great video and very informative.
LPL: "Above average" "nothing spectacular"
Ikon: *chamagne and celebration*
I got really confused when it said 1477 in the title… thought this was an older episode!
I know that Assa Abloy sometimes brands products of their other subsidiaries as IKON products for the German market, to capitalize on the brand recognition or something along those lines. Things like Abloy Protec locks are available with Ikon branding at some German locksmiths. Could it be that this disc lock is made by a different manufacturer that does business under the Assa Abloy umbrella?
Thanks! I have a spare one of these that I lost the key to awhile ago.
Whenever I watch one of our hosts videos, I am reminded of the old phrase that locks only serve to keep honest people honest! Folk with criminal intent are getting in regardless.
I don’t know how your channel appeared in my feed, but you are awesome. I may be able to make a hobby out of this. I’m working on a jobsite that has been shut down/abandoned since 2011, and there were locks on everything outside. I had to check for power for the grading guys, so I had to carry a drill and a 1/4” bit to drill all the locks out to get them open to check for power. The superintendent went through with a grinder cutting a few. I got 6 to his 3. Also, he got stung. There were wasps in every thing we opened, but they got him in action while grinding. It would’ve been really to go in and pick 5 while he was grinding on one getting stung! I mean that’s bad but still would’ve been cool to exploit such a skill.
Great video!
He’s amazing
Very common lock in the past. I remember my family had one at some point.
4 security pins, takes seconds to open, & LPL says "about what I'd expect"
Makes me realize how far I still have to go...
You got this !
Once you figured out spools, the Abus pinning is a piece of cake every time.
Hey LPL, are there any locks on the market who you would say there are truly pick resistant? The bowley Lock maybe? Are there any news on the it? Did you pick it?
Abloy
The looseness of the cylinder (moving forward and back) is something I've found on poor quality versions of this type of lock which oddly (just like roughly machined pins in pig iron padlocks) can make them a little more awkward to pick. I would have thought it was a sign that this IKON lock is a cheap copy, also having a brass cylinder not steel, but I wouldn't have expected security pins in a cheap copy lock. So it's a odd thing indeed.
The shape reminded me of the red storage lock that a viewer send to LPL.
Looks like it is only sold on Amazon and Ebay. Zeiss Ikon
I picked my first cheapo Masterlock today using the CI starter kit. I can get it open most tries in about 20 seconds. I don't really know HOW I'm doing it, but I am doing it.
I have one of these no name disc locks and I cannot get it open for my life, there's almost no feedback pins are just mushy and don't seem to set no matter how much, or little I tension it lol. It can't be raked either
I've a disk lock I've had similar problems with. Mushy pins, can't feel a binder, little to no feedback. I had to use a LOT of tension to get it open. When I say a lot, I mean so much that my turning was bending, digging into and hurting my hand. So much it felt like something might break. So maybe you also just need an absurd amount of tension to feel something
@@bad_wulph I've tried A LOT of tension so much so two hours later my finger has an indent in it. And the funny thing is if you look at the biting on the key it looks like a bump key lol. Like it should open by accident. I'm still a "new" picker because it's not been quite a year yet I've been doing it but in my limited experience it's the super cheap no name locks that can be the most challenging. The tolerances are so bad it's almost a security feature. But I'll take your advice and only use super high tension with it from now on. Thank you
@@TRIIGGAVELLI you may also just need to set it aside for a while and come back when you have more experience. That's what I had to do with it, I'm new-ish also. The tension I had to use may not be what you need. Are you sure there isn't a pin in the back you're missing? One of mine has a pin in the back that sits really low, so low that my standard hook doesn't fit under it when I'm using bottom-of-keyway tension. I end up hitting the side of it instead, which can trick you into thinking you've hit the back of the lock.
I saw a bunch of about two dozen of these disc locks and they had a bunch of different types of keys.
I am guessing you can easily replace the key lock in these with whatever you want. Some were really cheap others were really expensive
Most of them don't have replaceable cores cos they're welded together in the factory. Many many manufacturers make these types of lock and some make several different grades of them too.
Master Lock - "why don't WE get rated on a curve?"
Perhaps it's manufactured during an off the books night shift in a sweat shop way away in the far east, but stamped with another brand? 🤔🤷♂️
That was a friggin loud false set!
IIRC these are basically B2B bulk models. Thus the plain-cardboard-box packaging and meager online footprint. Neither party wanna deal with wasteful and cumbersome retail packaging when buying and deploying a couple of hundreds or several thousands of these things.
I wonder if that is just a legacy product from them. The naming on it is a bit odd, I don't think the "Zeiss Ikon" branding is used anymore.
It used to be zeiss ikon before they got bought by assa abloy. Still good locks, but much better back in the days 😊
Master Lock can only dream of 30 seconds to pick.
You said "alright folks", what have you done with the real LPL?
I put it down to the holiday season!
Used to see these at storage rental locations.
Dude needs to borrow Mrs. Lockpicking Lawyer’s nail file.
What are some locks you would suggest to use for home front door security? seems like every single one you have absolutely blown outta the water!
"above average" sound like a praise from the LPL.
I think there's a typo in the ep. no. - it should be 1577
I found a round lock with circle key. I hope to get it open one day. LOL
I swear I bought a copy of this lock with the Ace Hardware logo on it. I wonder if IKON sells this generic lock to companies with their logo embossed on it?
IKON is actually a legitimate german brand usually found right aside abus and co. ;)
those are that easy to unlock? That worries me. We have that securing our storage container while our house is under construction!
Fair praise from TLPL.
Good stuff!
I didn't even know there were free tweezers and pinning trays available until they arrived. I now feel more than privileged.
It would be funny to send him a lock that has all the parts of a normal lock but only opens by a hidden random digital opener. He would be trying to pick forever.
I have one ,bought in South Africa 24 years ago. but called General 1000.have you done one before?
waiting for the "works lock" to reach you
I still havent beat my generic cheap lock of this style. It’s not the pins that are the problem but the tumbler itself seems to have some misalignment inside. When using the key you really have to force it to turn the mechanism. This makes picking quite difficult
Didn't rake it. That's a step up.
Above average for LPL = very hard for everyone else.
Another great video. BUT what IS a reasonably robust padlock you can recommend?
These sales pitches LPL seamlessly work into these videos would be much more viable if the shipped overseas (eg: the rest of the world)
Do they not? Ah that's a pain as I am in UK
@@KRhythm2013 Lockpicking tools face a myriad of problems with international legality.
Certain ones but Sparrows shipped out to me extremely quickly although some things may have tightened since 2021
Ron Pratt is testing a new tol for lock picking easy way
That's what my gf says about me, "Above average but nothing spectacular."
That must be love, normally it's "that useless idiot!".
Thanks
But can he pick rusty locks? That's what I'd like to see.