A Song For All Seasons (Renaissance) Reaction and Score Analysis | The Daily Doug (Episode 475)
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In this episode of #thedailydoug, I'm relasing my Behind the Score Episode 26 that originally was recorded and posted to my Patreon a few months ago. In that episode, I took a deep dive into A Song For All Seasons from Renaissance. And, since I had the opportunity to see them in concert last night, I thought it an appropriate time to share this exclusive video here on TH-cam. I hope you enjoy!
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John Camp's bass lines are sensational. Squire would be proud of them. The whole composition is phenomenal and Renaissance should have been much more successful than it was.
Too right - all of that! Not many Bassists could stand tall in Squire's towering company; Jon Camp could - and should.
@@adriangoodrich4306 Camp is in my top 5 all time. He is criminally underrated.
Camp is a great bassist. Saw Renaissance 4 times during the 70s. His bass playing was phenomenal. He is criminally underrated. I place him in my top 5 all time. And that white Rickenbacker with the black pick guard was a beautiful instrument.
Fully agree with you.
Yep! I'm a diehard Rush fan who preferred the sound of John Camp. (Can't say the same for singing)
Never got the recognition they deserved- amazing composers and musicians…. And of course that voice-Annie, truly the cherry on the cake.
While talentless rappers get awards and shit. A truly sick world.
Seeing Renaissance live in Chicago back in the late 70s (with AL DiMeola opening), was one of the most transcendent experiences I've ever had. And when Annie held that note at the end of "Ashes are Burinng" the crowd erupted! It seemed to go on forever. What a voice! What a band!
I saw them in Miami with Al DiMeola opening. It was a great show. It was the second time seeing them. My first time was the Scheherazade tour.
@@tsot9837 I saw the Scheherazade, Novella, Song for All Seasons (twice) tours. All were great shows)) Superb, excellent musicians.
@@ScienceTalkwithJimMassa My first time was on SFAS '78 tour. They played about a week at the City Center in NYC, the next year I saw them at the Radio City Music Hall (that was the last tour with the classic lineup), and then a few more times; the last time was the stripped down acoustic tour ca '94.
@@ScienceTalkwithJimMassa Saw all those and AAB & TOTC too. Fantastic concerts all.
Saw that same show in Phoenix
Very underated band ...Jon Camp plays the bass like a lead guitarist amazing talent
For me , this is a perfect FUSION of band and orchestra.The orchestral arrangements is a MASTERPEACE. Fantastic!!!!!!
This is just a compositional masterpiece! Never heard anything this masterfully composed music outside classical music
In the early to mid 70’s, I was heavy into all kinds of music. My dad hated a lot of the music I was listening to. He was into country and he turned me onto many great country musicians. Roy Clark, Chet Atkins among many others. I was also into Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple etc…. When I discovered Renaissance, he came up to my room and asked who it was I was listening to and he said he loved this woman’s voice.
Great episode Doug!
I was lucky enough to see Renaissance several times in the late 70s, including the tour for this album. I got backstage on one occasion, and was gifted Terry's drumsticks, John Tour's t-shirt, and a kiss on the cheek from Annie. Joyous music-making then and now ❤️
Opening Out / Day of the dreamer are the opening songs of this great album and among my favourite Renaissance songs. Please listen to both songs in one go.
Great suggestion 👍
Agreed!
Agreed. My personal favorites. Can't have one without the other.
@@BBHouseRodent so true.
What an epic song! Really enjoyed listening to this piece and Dougs explanation of how they got there.
My favourite song from this album is “Northern Lights”, I love the vocals and the lyrics in that song.
It blew me away when I first heard it, when it was first released - and it introduced me to what is now one of my top-three bands ever. And, to this day, it still really does something to me. "Past or future, here or there/Shelter comes in words from you, so talk to me/I hear your voice, it comforts me/In morning dreams I take your hand, you walk with me" - that section STILL sends amazing shivers down my spine every time I hear it.
The orchestration on that song is kinda beatles-y to me. Lovely little tune, one of my favorite Annie vocals!
This is my favourite Renaissance piece. Annie's voice is beyond sublime.
Watching Doug dissecting the score makes the song even more mindblowing.
Hi Doug, i will need tosetup a new telegram account, will do it soon.
Another great day. Listening forward...
I used to listen to this on the floor of my parent's living room, with the speakers pushed up against my ears. It is even more beautiful now. They never wasted their, or our, time with less than excellent music. They were one of the standard-bearers of that time, which explains why so much of the music was of the first water. Your expertise augmented my appreciation of the nuts and bolts. I know many nuts but not so many bolts.
I never listened to Renaissance before hearing it on your channel, Doug. Thanks for introducing me to this great band!
I have tears, too beautiful this composition
Got turned onto this band in a record sop. They were playing Turn of the Cards. That's all it took. Saw them 6 times, including Carnegie Hall. that was the best concert experience I ever had.
Love this track, especially the orchestration. It was fun to hear you walk through the details even though I don't fully understand it. Thanks, Doug!
Always loved this group! Saw them live in Toronto in the 70's - they blew me away. If the composers of the classical era had electronic instruments I am sure this is how they would sound!
Yeah love it and love your reaction! For me the opening duo of songs on the album Opening Out / Day of the Dreamer is the absolute highlight, and probably my fav music by them, there’s a very touching passage, where Annie’s voice is so beautiful and always brings tears in my eyes. Highly recommended to dive into that one too 🙏❤
Good timing on this Daily Doug, as I’m seeing Annie Haslam in concert tonight! Can’t wait :) She is perhaps my biggest vocal inspiration, maybe alongside Jon Anderson and Paul McCartney.
SO glad you had a chance to experience this. Bombastic, and the last of their truly great symphonic works. It's complex yet elemental, and the power when Annie hits each climax is transcendent. Not sure if you've done Scheherazade yet (maybe for patrons?) but it should be top of the list next.
He did Scheherazade about a year ago, but it was the live version.
@@BBHouseRodent The amazing Carnegie Hall version. Unfortunately Doug picked the lowest quality res version he could find on YT. 😵💫
I found this song on an Opeth video where Mikael Akerfeldt was talking about his favourite vinyl and this album was one of them
I had the very exact introduction, I didn't cared at all about the other vinyls he was talking about, but this intrigued the hell out of me, almost like if that were some predestined event.
Lovely visit to Renaissance. I keep forgetting how much I like this song. When I reach for Renaissance, I usually come up with Novella nonstop for months. I've been on a Sisters kick lately. That's a gorgeous piece among beauties.
Renaissance is so good... Went to a show in 2017, was amazing!
A truly great track from a great band . The lack of lead electric guitar made them different but the 70’s was dominated by guitar bands- hence people tended to dismiss them. Great orchestrations- a work of art.
Hi Doug. So glad you have gotten into Renaissance.I was a big fan of ELP in high school and college, but when I found these folks, they quickly went to he head of the class. I have become a big fan of John Tout, and it breaks my heart that he's no longer with us. I would love to see you do a study of all the classical music he worked into their arangements, i.e. Debussy's Sunken Cathedral in At the Harbour. Both John and his sister loved to play classical music, especially together. When she passed away, he stopped playing for a number of years. So sad.
Hi, Doug, Thank you for review of my favorite tune of Renaissance, and also I 'd like to recommend another beautiful song " Day of the dreamer" The base line of this song is so amazing !!!
An excellent choice, sir. This album helped get me through a law degree and, I am happy to say, disturbed the studies of my university Hall neighbours.
Great reaction Mr Doug. Really interesting hearing Renaissance's songs through your expert knowledge.
My absolute favorite band of all time.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Centre of the Earth recorded live in 1974 with London Symphony Orchestra. A great use rock band, classical orchestra and keyboard virtuosity.
Finally I found what I was looking for a long time. A "reactor" with a sound knowledge of music theory. I love music theory, I studied it myself and I love deep analyses of music. Thank you so much for sharing this and showing more people the fascination of the theoretical part of music, with which you learn the language of music and understand it on a much deeper level.
I have a suggestion for a reaction of a very interesting song: A perfect circle - imagine. It´s a John Lennon Cover and it brings the song to a whole new level and point of view. With a very interesting and emotional intense use of minor and major. The pictures in the video are very intense too, so you should think about if you want to use the video with only the cover of the cd. The video with the pictures intensifies the music on the one hand but on the other it is marked for only people over 18 years I think. A comparison between the original song by Lennon related to the different statement of both songs, how you interpret it and how they reach that would be very interesting.
Louis Clark did all(?) the orchestral arrangements for the Electric Light Orchestra (see Episode 394: ELO - Concerto for a Rainy Day). An unsung hero of many a pop tune.... and he also did 'Hooked on Classics' to pay the bills!
No one will ever make music like Renaissance. Totally incredible stuff that is far more than any modern band could deal with. Fantastic.
I saw them in the Philly area in the 70s at least 6 times once a the academy of music beautiful acoustics Anne is fantastic
An all-time favorite, I'm so pleased you explored this song in depth!! =D
Thank you, Doug for reviewing this wonderful Renaissance song. IMO, Renaissance is one of the most underrated and under appreciated bands of their time. Their musicianship is great capped off by the spectacular vocals of Annie Hallam.
Michael Dunford’s picking reminds me of Greg Lake, just beautiful.
I'm having a blast watching all your videos, man. I really was missing this kind of content on youtube. This album was my favorite album last year. I'd hear it in loop all the time. It also influenced some of the best Brazilian music, thanks a lot for sharing some of your knowldege
Hah-Hah! I loves me some multiple Annies too. She is/was so amazing to listen to and to watch during concerts that she gets much of the praise (deservedly so) yet her band mates were also truly amazing and as you read at the beginning Louis Clark doing the orchestrations and Betty Thatcher's lyrics are excellent. Special mention to the late Michael Dunford for his composing of so much of their music over the years.
I remember reading a comment from someone in England who said he used to go to Renaissance shows and be surrounded by both bikers in leather jackets and people in evening gowns and tuxes.
Txs for your passion...it's amazing , i know nothing on music score..but i listen to you all the way" I seen that tour in Massey Hall in 78 and the concert was amazing ! THIS IS AMAZING MUSIC that makes me cry and write..i am a play writer it inspires me a lot..thanks for your treasure !
Doug, I would really like to see you interview the remaining original members who wrote this music, too... how much fun would that be? It would be amazing to get to see yo uspeakwith them about some of their choices in composition.
I also love the way you get so excited when you listen and observe the way Renaissance built their songs (I will watch this video over and over just to see you get excited again ;) )...... priceless!
I'd love to get your reaction to Day of the Dreamer from the same album. IMHO, the final passage of that piece is some of the most beautiful music Renaissance ever produced.
A song for all seasons. Una de los mejores obras del rock sinfonico. Un album que merece ser escuchado una y otra vez. Sublime
I really enjoyed the Score Analysis you did here. But then I do enjoy watching you do analysis of the songs you do on the channel, as it's teaching me LOADS of stuff I didn't know about music theory and composition!!! Hopefully all this new knowledge will improve my own compositions in future. Nice One Doug!!! 😀
Love to see other people react to one of my all-time favorite bands! Thanks.
Renaissance is misunderstood, under appreciated. ... the early version of Renaissance with old Yardbirds members also good. ...
Don't forget Illusion. Out of the Mist is almost a perfect album.
@@BBHouseRodent ...Totally. th-cam.com/video/m8AZ7NlVwSc/w-d-xo.html
When I heard the little ads for Novella on commercial radio when It was released I just had to have it in my collection. Although prior to that I had heard a few tracks by the band I hadn't really appreciated the skill of these superb performers. Jon Camp's bass always amazes me in that it seems to talk rather eloquently not just as a definition of the rhythm. As is often the case I doubt very much there will be any music or for that matter performers who could repeat what Renaissance did in the 70's. It was and remains unique and beautiful music. I actually saw them live once at what was then Hammersmith Odeon where the support band were The Tom Robinson Band, very much from the punk era which was an extremely odd combination. I sat in the front row right in front of the PA to the left side, my first gig! Just the band, no orchestra and a half empty Odeon.
Check out the song Mystic and The Muse from their last album (with the 'new' lineup). Also, Touching Once from Novella, especially Live at Albert Hall.
Also, I may have mentioned this before in the comments but if you like this sort of orchestra meets pop/rock style, Ilayaraja's work in film music is well worth your while. Especially, if you like SFAS, then Sundari Kannal Oru Seithi or, more apt, Sattru Munbu (performed by the Budapest Symphonic Orchestra). This sort of orchestral rock was rare in, well, rock/pop of the 60s and onwards but our film music was full of orchestra and that's what Renaissance's more orchestral compositions would bring to my mind.
This is my favourite all-time Renaissance song. I have played a few of their pieces on piano and guitar, but hadn’t seen this score. So thanks, you’ve inspired me to find it and play.
Awesome analysis. Thank you so much.
For me, this marked the last of the truly monumental epic pieces by Renaissance, although I have continued to be a fan and collector of their releases... even the so called "duds"
Indeed, it was, sadly. Still some lovely pieces to come, especially on Azure D'or (I love "Winter Tree" and "Forever Changing"), but if there WAS to be a powerful epic to close their "golden period", you'd not do much better than this piece.
My wife and I saw them 5 times. this band is totaly amazing.Hard to belive she is deaf in 1 ear
Thanks Doug - really interesting, as always! I've SO been hoping you would get to this superb finale to the Golden Age of one of my three favourite bands.
simply brilliant - thank you for sharing
"Northern Lights" is great, but I really love "Opening Out / Day of the Dreamer" and this title track.
A wonderful suit of songs.
Saw them in the early - mid 70s they opened for someone I don't remember who because after Annie Haslam just stunned me so much I was Lost.
What an epic song
Thanks as always Doug. Since you like the orchestration and mix of everything, you really need to go back and listen to the Live At Carnegie Hall album and the last cut which is Ashes Are Burning. Thanks again
Totally agree; Ashes from the Carnegie Hall is immense
Great suggestion.
@@stephanevilleneuve9450are you the Maestro from the SLSO? If so, I waited on you at the airport in a wine place
@@stephaniethurmer5370 Do you confuse me with Maestro Stéphane Denève? One thing is sure, maybe as you, l’m a huge Renaissance’s music lover and Annie’s Haslam voice.
@@stephanevilleneuve9450 I sure did. I saw the similarity in names and my brain just jumped there. Sorry. FYI, he is a very sweet man and I had a lovely chat with him while serving him. I also think he liked the fact that I did not acknowledge him publicly
Wow! I have other Renaissance albums, but not this one. I'll have to get it.
I love Renaissance. John Tout (RIP) was a wonderful, excellent keyboardist. He is in my top 5 all time. Jon Camp - SUPERB bassist, also in my top 5 all time. I put him up there with Chris Squire, Greg Lake. John and Jon are criminally underrated.
And of course, Annie's voice - magical, angelic. I really think she is the best.
I saw Renaissance several times during the 70s. I saw the Scheherazade (no orchestra sadly), Novella and Song for All Seasons tours. (Twice for Song tour). All the concerts were wonderful. Superb, excellent musicians.
I appreciate you examining the score Dr. Doug. As a keyboardist myself, I really enjoy the analysis and seeing the chord sequences. This is really just a brilliant composition. And the album is such a lovely album.
Thank you Doug!
Jon Camp ... just as important to Renaissance as Chris Squire was to Yes. I just love this album
Opening out is a long time favourite of mine.
I go along with that...beautiful song!
This is maybe my favorite Renaissance song. I've been asking you to react to it since I started following your channel (since the very beginning of the channel). I am really grateful that you finally got to it! Thanks, Doug!!!
I don't understand about 1/3 of what you're talking about, but I can't like enough. I've loved them forever, saw them play at club in LA in maybe 1981. Still amazing. Keep up the great work.
I've been waiting for this
Thanks for reviewing my favorite band again. Fantastic song and album! Novella The Sisters is next, I hope. Thanks so much, again!
I've always like that part at 7:59, which repeats. Always my favorite part of the song.
Love watching your video analysis. Especially music theory. You channel is one of my TOP 3 on TH-cam I use to learn Music Theory. I mastered my own system in memorizing the guitar fretboard "which I'm starting to teach of my channel" but I have seen so many connections to music theory from that and how it also helped me learn the keyboard too. So I have taken a deep diving in the scary shadows of music theory. My top 3 "well main channels basically" for studying theory is your's, David Bennett Piano, and Rick Beato. Keep up the good work.
I’m sure the 5th to 8th bars of the second section have the James Bond theme behind the acoustic guitar!
I always thought this.hehe..
First time hearing this one. Reminds me very much of early Kansas. Almost A jazz chord progression. Very staccato, with passing from on instrument to another.
Brilliant again, Doug, hearing your analysis of one of my absolute favourite pieces, from one of my top-three favourite bands of all time. I had SO hoped you would review this piece! Now, if you can get to Can You Hear Me or Ashes Are Burning or Northern Lights, having already reviewed Song of Scheherazade, that's my top-five and I'll be an even more happy chappie! Again, thank you!
For some reason this song reminds me of a Rennaissance Fair in Ca.
As someone who's a lover of music more generally, and a fan of Renaissance specifically, it's absolutely fascinating to see you reading the score along with the music - you obviously extract a level of meaning way beyond us non-musicians.
I know this is a bit out of the mainstream for the music you cover on this channel, but would there be any chance of you casting an eye on something modern classical - Philip Glass's Akhnaten, especially "Hymn" or the "Funeral of Amenhotep"?
Annie is my favorite female Vocalist so had have all her albums with Renaissance. Saw them many times in concert including the SFAS tour. Fantastic song.
This is almost alternative metal to me. Found this sound a few years ago
At times the orchestrations have an Alan Parsons quality to them. But this was a transitional album, the last with an orchestra and the last with one of these epics. The instrumental arsenal has been expanded to include synths and electric guitars. So I guess you could say both Alan Parsons and ELO were influencing their sound during this period.
Love Renaissance, and saw them once in the U.K. many years ago. If not already looked at, then the Ashes Are Burning album is amazing, especially Annie’s stellar vocal in the title track. Actually got into the band’s music, as when doing accountancy training my manager was an older relative of Annie Haslam, and often talked about her and the band!
Wonderful, Doug!
In this case, the pitched percussion at the beginning is xylophone, not marimba.
Glad to see you do more Rennaissance. This was great though; this is one I wish you had used the keyboard to help high light the chord structures as you explained them.
New Avantasia album just droped today Doug, care to check Arabesque? Or Moonflower Society as well... I mean, all tracks are awesome!
I often think this album is overshadowed by the hits and subsequent shift away from the classic sound. Love this and Day of The Dreamer. Fascinating seeing how complex this is yet Annie just soars through it.
Being a 40-year-lover of Renaissace, while professionally working around the world, I never found a complete band (all genuises in their part of the whole), never found any other that matches in grandiosity as Renaissance, it is a shame on most superficialy-built others. More 2 comments: Being deligheted w the band, I go in touch w Bettty Tatcher, the genius Buddhist Corsican monk- like who receives the least credit. Unfortunatly she passed away w cancer before she reveled her mistical secrets in some of her lyrics (the double meaning), like this one which is both the cyclical seasonality which Earth goes thru but also the process of the creation of the Universe (or our Earth).
Betty was disapointed for the little credit she receives for what makes Renaissance even more unic because there is spirituality in many songs (like full Album Ashes are Burning, which the doble meaning has the phases of dying in moving to the "beyond" and phases of spiritual Enlightnement.
The richness of their lyrics different of the majority that 90% is superficial bullshit love affair (that is what sells, emotion and love). Well I could go one for pages as a result of 40 years dissecting every one of their songs. I got to the point that I advised my family that when I die they burry me with all Renaissance albuns for the great pleasure the y give to me through the stages of my life.
"That's fucking rad" LOL
Who else in pop is at this level of cool modulations? I see Mike Oldfield, Genesis, and?
I know this don't make much sense, but the part which begins at 2:25 reminds me so much of the game Zelda: Link to the past, the first time that Link goes to the dark world as a bunny
Very interesting, thanks Doug.
I note the reply was posted by an account that is not Doug's regular YT account. I'm suspicious...
Kindness (at the end) is my favorite song from this album.
Hi Doug, I have always been a huge Renaissance fan and I own there entire library. I love to watch you explore there music and a Song for All Seasons is certainly a great choice. I don't know if you have listened to their 1972 release Prologue. Another fabulous album in its entirety. That being said, I would love to see you do a reaction to Rajah Khan from that album. It is a piece that seems to me to be exploring and experimenting with taking a different musical style and having fun doing it in a very "prog" way. As always, Annie's vocals are amazing on the piece.
Doug: "as soon as I say something" ..... and then the song Progresses lol
I may have made this comment on one of your other videos, but this song and album are favorites of Mikael Arkfeldt of Opeth.
Hi Doug. I'm Bernd from Germany. I love your rock reviews. You recently reviewed the Deep Purple album "Machine Head" in its entirety. And found good. ;) I suggest you review the previous album "Fireball" from 1971. It's musically more diverse. The song "Fireball" is basically the first speed metal song, "No one came" is the first song with chanting, so the first "rap metal" song. Actually all the songs are worth mentioning and unique. For me it's the best album by the legendary Deep Purple Mark II formation. I think you will like it. It's one of the most underrated music albums in the world. Every song on it is fantastic and different from all the others.
Hey great stuff Doug, you say you love the music and the orchestras, check out YES symphonic close to the edge is unreal man.
Hey Doug... I'm doing some math here. I think you're up to about 2002 nights of being captivated! But don't feel bad, Annie's had me for a lot longer than that!
Thanks!
Doug, I really enjoy your insights into the pieces you review. I have a humble suggestion: would you consider reviewing "kaval sviri" as performed by the Bulgarian State Radio & Television Female Vocal Choir? I'm interested in your thoughts on it.
Sorry to say I only have her solo AIW + Rennaissance. She is Fantastic!!!
I saw 3 shows 1983-1984, sat at the edge of the stage at Annie's feet (she performed barefooted). Awesome shows! I'd sure be interested in your reactions to "Rajah Khan" (Prologue) and "Can you hear me?" (Novella). If you react to their live stuff, the BBC Sight and Sound live show is awesome, as id "Ashes are burning" from Live at Carnegie Hall.. Annie is even more impressive live. Such a stage presence!