The whole point of this laptop is that it has a larger screen and costs less than the 16” MacBook Pro. People buying this MacBook Air won’t really care about the 14” Pro
@@spencercarruth9706 yep - this. 15 inch is the size i've wanted for some time - the 14 mbp is nice but the screen doesnt fit righr with me - mines winging its way to me as we speak - started tracking it with DHL yestetday :)
The 14 mbp is an outstanding laptop, but I can understand wanting the 15 air. It’s very thin, and has a good amount of screen space. I think it will be very popular for college students/ people on the go who want a bigger display. Plus, the chip and battery life are still pretty incredible. It’s a shame they are still starting these laptops at 256gb ssd(especially with ssd’s being so affordable nowadays). Probably the best option would be to get the 256gb/16gb ram option and purchase an external SSD. If you get that with an education discount, its 1379 with a 150$ giftcard rebate. That’s a pretty compelling offer if you ask me.
@@jayg339 kinda a pain to have to carry an external drive the point is to be thin and light and internal storage is faster, installing apps on the external drive can cause issues with it not appearing in launch pad, not sure how well that works and it will be slower. also the 14 pro has higher screen resolution and ppi so you can fit more on the screen at native resolution but then everything also appears a lot smaller, this is nice as it matches the old 15 pro resolution so still plenty of screen area and everything isn't super tiny. I got the edu discount and $150 gift card as well but went with bigger ssd, it's also discounted from regular price for the upgrade. Ordered it after it was available in store so I'm picking it up later this month rather than shipping it and also got trade in offer on my 2020 base M1 Air for $500
This guy must be the coolest & calmest reviewer out there .. fantastic 👌👌 .. no rush, no nonstop nonsense .. just cool & casual.. brilliant way of reviewing any product ..
“There’s no fan on it so I don’t need to worry about it getting hot on ur lab”. That’s not true…the fan lowers temp so this device will get hot in ur lap.
@@151mcx it has better sustained performance than the 13" which throttles more. as a result it may get a little warmer but most reviewers say it is cool to the touch no matter what.
the elephant in the room is the M1 14" and 16" pro's which, at least in Australia sit either side of the 15" with 512gb and 16gb , price wise by $100 or so - both far superior products, even with M1
Love my 15 inch MBA. Had to go for the 16GB/512GB model because 8GB is crap because it wont last long. Sure itll work fine for today and tomorrow but what about 3 or 5 years from now? Id say if youre like me and plan on keeping this machine or any laptop to at least go for 16GB of ram
@@allstarkidXD was wondering, can’t you just put some kind of anti reflective screen protector like sheet on the top, cause it looks so good on the inside
I’d recommend silver because the MagSafe and Thunderbolt ports will inevitably be scratched by plugs. And any scratches will blend into the silver color.
Hi ), Am planing to get my first MacBook I ll use the MacBook Air for 1. Multiple tabs in browser - article reading and TH-cam videos. 2. Content viewing. 3. Ppt 3. Since am planing to get iPhone 15 pro, may be learn to do minor photo & video editing ( tour videos). 4. Teleradiology ( viewing and very minor graphic processing 2D to volume rendering) _ bigger screen is better here. 5. Use my iPad as sidecar in reporting. 6. May connect a monitor in future. With these uses, Since MacBook Air is well built am planing to use for atleast few years 5plus Should I get 8 or 16 gb ram keeping in mind on the works and future proofing for macOS updates.
I know this is late, but generally if you are just using it for word, excel, powerpoint and just internet browsing, then 8 gb should be enough, unless you’re planning on having 8+ tabs open in safari or more than 3 apps running on the background. For video editing, photo editing, graphic processing, you should get 16 gb.
$100 off Education, $150 gift card, and $500 off for trading in my M1 Macbook Air from 3 years ago. Oh, and 3% cash back with Apple card and easy monthly payments. This was a no brainer. Thank you, Apple.
I did the same thing. I was really on the fence with staying with my first gen 13" M1 MBA or upgrading to the 15". I couldn't resist the larger screen. The perks you posted made my decision easier to make.
@@Ozzie4Para Yea man, bigger screen, better resolution, better speakers, better chip? All for $56 a month for 12 months no interest and a $150 towards the iPhone 15 in October? Let's go.
It starts at $1300 but you’re going to bump up the hard drive at the very least. I think for a lot of people this will be close to the base MacBook Pro price. ($1800 for 15inch air - Vs a 14 inch pro at $2000). The marketing term for this is The Decoy Effect. This is going to move more MacBook Air customers into MacBook Pros. You really don’t get much for the bump in price to this 15inch MacBook Air. You get a TON with the small bump in price to the Pro. You’re celebrating a customer manipulation tactic.
What you're forgetting is that is the price for a base model 14 inch Pro which a majority of people will also update the hard drive for. So in the end you are paying ~700$ more for Pro specs and losing an inch of screen. For most people, that 700$ isn't really justifiable especially when the base chips are already so powerful. The M1 chip (not the pro or max model, just base M1 chip) is like 5x times more powerful than my fully specced 15 in 2018 macbook pro. What on earth would I need a pro model for unless I plan to do gaming (which is currently futile on Mac OS) or development/media (which I don't). The only reason I got my Macbook Pro was because I needed the extra screen real estate which I can now get for a 1000$ cheaper than what I paid for my laptop.
I think both of you are not considering an aspect of human nature. This relates to the decoy effect. People want more. People regularly get more than they need, and I mean that in every way. No one needs to drive a car with 1000hp and a 2 and a half second 0-60 time to go to the store to buy milk. But, here we are. The VAST majority of the population doesn’t even come close to utilizing what their computer is really capable of (not until years and years later when their machine isn’t performing as well). The average person doesn’t do much more than surf the web and check email. That average person is still buying a MacBook Pro a lot of the time (the majority of sales are not to people maxing out the performance of their computers). I was being generous when I only suggested upgrading the hard drive. That’s something a lot of people fill up. I imagine a lot of people are going to upgrade the real performance of their machine and don’t really need to. We aren’t talking about what YOU would do. We are talking about what the average person would do. YOU may go to a theater and only want a medium soda and only buy a medium soda. MOST people see the price of the medium and the price of the large, then think about how they like more, and then buy the large that they don’t really need, just because it feels like they’re getting more for their money. That is the decoy effect. I feel like each of you just separately asked me to explain it in more detail. It isn’t about if YOU fall for it.
@@prakash_77 could be. As a software engineer every company I’m at hands their people at MacBook Pro on day one. Depending on the role you get more RAM and HD space. External drives aren’t really an option. If you need to be mobile external stuff that could have instead been internal is a real drag. I definitely upgraded my MacBook Pro with more RAM and HD space. But, I have need for that professionally. Would be curious to hear from Apple how often people upgrade either of those things Vs both Vs neither!
Greater surface area is a more noticeable and measurable improvement than the refresh rate of the pro models. Ditto for weight. People are saying the 14" has a better screen without doing a "blind" view test.
The display on the Air is as good as the MB Pro in most regards, especially for SDR viewing which is what most of us will do on an ultrabook. HDR is nice but I barely use it and I run my Macs in power saving mode unless I need the performance so 120Hz will be disabled. The advantages of the MB Pro 14 are not as obvious as people make out. The speakers are a bit better but any extra performance is moot if you are happy with the Air as an alternative. I would definitely get the MB Air 15 as it has a larger display than the MB Pro 14 and that is the USP of the Air 15-inch and why most people will buy it. So those saying buy the 14 are missing the point.
@@andyH_England yeah the air has a bigger display, not sure does it also have more pixels? the 15 air has better speakers than the 13 air. so the 14" pro isn't going to be that much better, if you want the best speakers you should get the 16"
@@andyH_England ProMotion saves battery because most of the time it's lowering the refresh rate below 60, so by disabling 120 Hz you're actually locking it to 60 and hurting the battery even more. The only reason that option is there is to force matching refresh rate to a program for professional work, not battery which is why you can't disable it on iPhones cause it would be stupid to.
@@Krolitian1 ProMotion on the Macs are not LTPO, so they could be more helpful regarding battery life. For example, the lowest rate is 24Hz (video). But if the video is in YT, and you are also scrolling comments, it will remain at 120Hz. I have tested, and there is a nominal gain in keeping 120Hz on for my workflow.
Its $300 more expensive in my part of the world. Its almost $1599 here for the base model Macbook Air 15inch. Damn it. Im Probably happy with my Air 2017 model which still functions well and wait a bit for a price drop or sale on the new model. Not doing video editing just using it for work so it should be fine.
So no speed test no ssd test? How hard would it be to see if the SSD can keep up with the M1…? Btw I paid 799 for the M1 from Costco. Still happy with my M1... So I'll wait for the 70% faster M3 and get it with 16gb... Should be future proof for the next 5 years or so.
Dave2D looked at SSD speed and said it was a non-issue to the vast majority as they do not stress test their MB Airs, which differs from what a fanless laptop is meant for. All Apple has done is move to how 99% of 256GB SSDs work in Windows machines. For example, my Galaxy Book2 Pro gets less than 1Gbps when on battery in sequential tests, but that is more than I need for the external devices I use.
You need to be more transparent and realistic when you talk about the range. MBA is not useable/feasible in base 8GB/256GB form. You need 16GB and 512GB as a min. But once you do that the price is more than 14” Pro referb. The MBA needs to start with much higher specs. The screen, ports on both side, speakers make the extra worth the money and again you shouldn’t suggest they would cost more. Ports are nothing, even just puts one of the 2 on the otherside. One side makes it’s a mess. Don’t buy the MBA, jump to MBP, it’s worth it and is by far the goto max of the range.
Been using the M1, M2 base models airs and now the 15inch base for work home etc with absolutely no problem. i also have a 16” pro The base models of the M1m2 airs are fine for Office apps web browsing some 4k vid editing. This is the best option for most people use ICloud for storage so everything is accessible on all devices. People get way too hung up on over specking for what they actually do. Sure if you are a heavy content creator or actually need more storage or ram get it or move up to a pro but for the consumer base this is targeting it would be a waste of money. The base model is more than enough for most people who are using this for office apps, web browsing and checking emails. And it handles most photo editing and 4k video editing fine. No sense in buying something that is overkill if your not going to need or use the extra power.
@@Toby-vj3os base model is just garbage, apple shouldn’t be selling any macs with 8GB ram and or 256GB SSD. And no, iCloud is a mess, not a chance. Why subscribe to something you might need 🤣
@@nothingtosee7718 we’re all entitled to our opinions I have no problems. And work with a company that has 5000 plus employees that mostly use Base models of macs. If you need more for gaming or video editing get more. Get a pro. The mba wasn’t designed for pro work to begin with. Your money but to just trash base models for everyone else leads me to think maybe its not the machine thats the problem and more of a ego trip. As far as ICloud the same works fine for me and many others. Everyone needs to figure out what they actually need versus these tube comments. Maybe instead of general bashing of base models give some examples. Maybe the base model isn’t for you. Of course if you are editing 8k video or need the extra storage or ram then a base model won’t cut it but for the average user they are fine. You state that the base model of the mac book air is not usable or feasible explain that. Plenty of colleges students are very happy with the base model mba.
@@Toby-vj3os it makes no sense to get it, you need the 16GB or you get swaps after about 8 or 9 tabs.. the SSD speed is low and in addition to you have to manage storage on the 256GB model. so now you've added the prerequisite, that puts you right at the same cost as a refurb'd 14, without all the benefits of the 14 which are significant. So the only real reason to get a MBA is the cheap entry point. But from a TCO point of view and user point of view you're still better with the pro and it will outlast the MBA and still have a better resale in 3 years. And I had an MBA and returned it.. I cloud, too expensive, too slow and I don't need the same files on 8 laptops, I can simply put them on a NAS with better performance and no endless subscription or limits.
@@nothingtosee7718 there again you get what you need. I can easily run several tabs in Crome np and have seen little to no swapping with 8 gig of RAM. On average I use less than 3-4 tabs anyway and usually close them all out when finished. Just habit from windows days. As far as ssd speed. I really don’t notice any difference between my pro and air but then again I’m not a power user. As far as I Cloud i pay like $1.00 a month for 1TB which is plenty for me I have yet to close to being out of disk space but i also don’t download a lot of useless apps or games. If you need that then go for the pro and yes before I would pay extra to upgrade a mba I would definitely consider the pro I f I needed that but I don’t. However the portability is another consideration. So a upgraded mba may be better for some. All Im saying is the base mba is fine for the majority of users doing everyday task. If you need more certainly get more but to outright bash the base models as garbage just because they don’t suit your particular needs or wants and discourage others who would be perfectly happy with a base model is a little lame. I still have a 2019 intel mba that runs great. No way near the performance and battery life of M1 or M2 but still handles office work web browsing with ease. And never had a issue with the keys like some did with that model.
Well that's why it's important to keep your eyes open for deals. I've seen MBP 14s for 1500$ MBPs 16 for 2k new from Bestbuy. Also logically considering the future 8gb with 256gb is unrealistic for new purchases so once you factor that in, the only 15" you should get is the 16gb 1TB version which is 1700$ some might say you don't need 1TB well you do when it's only 100$ more for 512gbs of space.
@RoastBeefSandwich yes if you already have it like I do, then you don't need it. Most people right now, yes, don't need it. But if you're spending 1000s of dollars in 2023, then it's much better to upgrade the laptop you're buying now and not need the space instead of needing the space and not being able to upgrade it. But yes, from a pure hardware perspective the M1 8gb 256gb is ideal for 95% of people. But financially and future proof friendly it's better to upgrade it now if you plan to buy new.
Base model only has 8GB of Ram. You can’t get it upgraded to 16GBs unless you order it directly from Apple. It means Best Buy, Amazon and other online shops will only have 8GB version. At least 8GB on Mac OS is equivalent to having 16GB of Ram in Windows.
8GB on Mac OS is NOT equivalent to having 16GB of Ram in Windows. The exact behavior depends on the workload, and some systems use RAM more aggressively than others by design and they rely on using swap/pagefiles more. If you primarily use your computer for web browsing, watching videos, writing docs, and similar lighter loads, you'll be more than fine with 8GB on Windows as well. This is my experience, not an assumption btw. Also, if your Windows PC has 8GB of RAM but has a fast disk just like Macbooks have, that helps a lot in situations where you exceed your RAM capacity and OS is forced to use disk cache/swap/pagefiles more.
Fact is most people don't need more thatn 8gb in MacOS. They just don't. People love to complain about it as a number, but in real use it's just not an issue for most users.
@@Jasterrrr yup, it’s more of the same baseless numbers only arguments that don’t actually make sense. Same people would say android phones were better because more ram or higher MP cameras. They just don’t understand
Don't sleep on the original M1 Air. In my case, I use it on the couch and at cafes, and then I connect it to a 32" 1440p 75Hz display with mouse and keyboard and it becomes a productivity monster.
Just the 13 inch Air is selling in Australia for $1,800 AUD which is too expensive for me so I will pass on that. The 15 is about $2,300 AUD . Apple are pricing themselves out of the market in my humble opinion.
Talking about affordable price to n base model but it is a trap cause nobody buy the base model cause the ssd low and small. So at the end the real price is more expensive.
If all you do is surf the net and you use cloud storage, you do not need much more than 256. I will say, I low key regret not getting 512 on my M1 Air, as Warcraft now eats up like 40% of the storage space 🤣🤣
"Far more affordable than pro." Sure; unless you want more than the base model. Then it it's not. At that point, the pro becomes a far better deal when you look outside the Apple Store.
Why do they have a notch still? This is a laptop, not a smartphone. There is no need for a notch, they can put the web cam in the slim bezel. Gonna wait for the day they make a notchless laptop.
Waste of time . There will be tons of unpacking video , then display and sound, then test video, then comparing with m1 pro video, then “5 reasons to buy Macbook Air 15”, and “5 reasons why I still choose m1 pro than Air 15” . In a year a new laptop will come out and the cycle will repeat
You have to run a heavy load for 10 minutes straight before it throttles, and it still runs well when throttled - it doesn't reduce the performance by a big amount.
What a refreshing change to watch a calm, considered, and informative presentation. And thank you for avoiding all that unboxing nonsense.
Agreed. It’s because it’s not about ego with this guy. He’s just doing a good job!
Watching every single video of this laptop I can today
So do I 😊
Same here. Haha
Ditto! I have the M2 MBA & considering trading it in for this new 15” model
Same here to, to take decision
Ok
The 16gb ram, 512g ssd option is very close in price to the 14” MBP
especially if you get it refurbished, but this is a nice thinner design and it comes in more colors.
The whole point of this laptop is that it has a larger screen and costs less than the 16” MacBook Pro. People buying this MacBook Air won’t really care about the 14” Pro
@@spencercarruth9706 yep - this. 15 inch is the size i've wanted for some time - the 14 mbp is nice but the screen doesnt fit righr with me - mines winging its way to me as we speak - started tracking it with DHL yestetday :)
The 14 mbp is an outstanding laptop, but I can understand wanting the 15 air. It’s very thin, and has a good amount of screen space. I think it will be very popular for college students/ people on the go who want a bigger display. Plus, the chip and battery life are still pretty incredible. It’s a shame they are still starting these laptops at 256gb ssd(especially with ssd’s being so affordable nowadays).
Probably the best option would be to get the 256gb/16gb ram option and purchase an external SSD. If you get that with an education discount, its 1379 with a 150$ giftcard rebate. That’s a pretty compelling offer if you ask me.
@@jayg339 kinda a pain to have to carry an external drive the point is to be thin and light and internal storage is faster, installing apps on the external drive can cause issues with it not appearing in launch pad, not sure how well that works and it will be slower. also the 14 pro has higher screen resolution and ppi so you can fit more on the screen at native resolution but then everything also appears a lot smaller, this is nice as it matches the old 15 pro resolution so still plenty of screen area and everything isn't super tiny. I got the edu discount and $150 gift card as well but went with bigger ssd, it's also discounted from regular price for the upgrade. Ordered it after it was available in store so I'm picking it up later this month rather than shipping it and also got trade in offer on my 2020 base M1 Air for $500
I don't think I would ever consider getting a macbook a few years ago, but those M series processors changed the game. I kinda want one
This guy must be the coolest & calmest reviewer out there .. fantastic 👌👌 .. no rush, no nonstop nonsense .. just cool & casual.. brilliant way of reviewing any product ..
Just bought mine in midrange memory. I’ve been waiting for a long time to get an Apple laptop and this was the right time! Starlight is my color too!
hows starlight? im thinking of getting the midnight one
Just bought one for college. After the discount it only cost $912. Cheaper then the base 13-inch air.
I bought it on the release day but have not yet gotten my hands on it. I upgraded from Mac Book Pro 13" (2014). Does it make sense?
Yes
It is going to be big jump with cpu gpu cores. Kya kijiyega itni power ka?
no you didnt
a lot of sense
Yes that is a good upgrade!
This will be my first apple laptop
Starlight colour looks amazing. Midnight vs Starlight which one is better?
“There’s no fan on it so I don’t need to worry about it getting hot on ur lab”. That’s not true…the fan lowers temp so this device will get hot in ur lap.
better passive cooling than 13" air
Yeah, did you open it up to see the more passive cooling?
Gets warm, not hot.
Yeah I don't understand that logic "There's no fan so it won't get hot". Fans stop things from getting hot.
@@151mcx it has better sustained performance than the 13" which throttles more. as a result it may get a little warmer but most reviewers say it is cool to the touch no matter what.
the elephant in the room is the M1 14" and 16" pro's which, at least in Australia sit either side of the 15" with 512gb and 16gb , price wise by $100 or so - both far superior products, even with M1
Love my 15 inch MBA. Had to go for the 16GB/512GB model because 8GB is crap because it wont last long. Sure itll work fine for today and tomorrow but what about 3 or 5 years from now? Id say if youre like me and plan on keeping this machine or any laptop to at least go for 16GB of ram
Are their heating issues?
Looks like a great laptop but would it kill Apple to put a usb port on the right so we can charge from both sides?
Use the Magsafe carger. The cable is long.
So do you like the Midnight color? I agree that the 13" is ideal for traveling like I do. Torn on color - love the midnight but those smudges : )
Get starlight its the best midnight gets too much smudges thats why i avoided midnight and went with starlight
@@allstarkidXD thank U!!!
@@allstarkidXD was wondering, can’t you just put some kind of anti reflective screen protector like sheet on the top, cause it looks so good on the inside
@@MasterKey2004 you can but starlight to me looks very nice
I’d recommend silver because the MagSafe and Thunderbolt ports will inevitably be scratched by plugs. And any scratches will blend into the silver color.
Another top "notch" MacBook. Apple never disappoints. Smh
This models m2 is not binned and does have 10 gpu cores as compared to 8 on the 13
So how many 1080p displays can it drive?
Hi ), Am planing to get my first MacBook
I ll use the MacBook Air for
1. Multiple tabs in browser - article reading and TH-cam videos.
2. Content viewing.
3. Ppt
3. Since am planing to get iPhone 15 pro, may be learn to do minor photo & video editing ( tour videos).
4. Teleradiology ( viewing and very minor graphic processing 2D to volume rendering) _ bigger screen is better here.
5. Use my iPad as sidecar in reporting.
6. May connect a monitor in future.
With these uses, Since MacBook Air is well built am planing to use for atleast few years 5plus
Should I get 8 or 16 gb ram keeping in mind on the works and future proofing for macOS updates.
I know this is late, but generally if you are just using it for word, excel, powerpoint and just internet browsing, then 8 gb should be enough, unless you’re planning on having 8+ tabs open in safari or more than 3 apps running on the background.
For video editing, photo editing, graphic processing, you should get 16 gb.
@@alexx960 thanks man, got the 16 gb variant
$100 off Education, $150 gift card, and $500 off for trading in my M1 Macbook Air from 3 years ago. Oh, and 3% cash back with Apple card and easy monthly payments. This was a no brainer. Thank you, Apple.
I did the same thing. I was really on the fence with staying with my first gen 13" M1 MBA or upgrading to the 15". I couldn't resist the larger screen. The perks you posted made my decision easier to make.
@@Ozzie4Para Yea man, bigger screen, better resolution, better speakers, better chip? All for $56 a month for 12 months no interest and a $150 towards the iPhone 15 in October? Let's go.
I did the same thing except for the monthly payments. It will be a nice upgrade.
A good review ,the 15” pro lineup are just too expensive for most people
It’s almost the same size as the original just without the bezels
I wish they would do M2/pro imac
It starts at $1300 but you’re going to bump up the hard drive at the very least. I think for a lot of people this will be close to the base MacBook Pro price. ($1800 for 15inch air - Vs a 14 inch pro at $2000).
The marketing term for this is The Decoy Effect. This is going to move more MacBook Air customers into MacBook Pros.
You really don’t get much for the bump in price to this 15inch MacBook Air. You get a TON with the small bump in price to the Pro.
You’re celebrating a customer manipulation tactic.
Nah, you're overstating how many people can't get by without base specs. Base specs are fine for a LARGE amount of users.
Calm down.
What you're forgetting is that is the price for a base model 14 inch Pro which a majority of people will also update the hard drive for. So in the end you are paying ~700$ more for Pro specs and losing an inch of screen. For most people, that 700$ isn't really justifiable especially when the base chips are already so powerful. The M1 chip (not the pro or max model, just base M1 chip) is like 5x times more powerful than my fully specced 15 in 2018 macbook pro. What on earth would I need a pro model for unless I plan to do gaming (which is currently futile on Mac OS) or development/media (which I don't). The only reason I got my Macbook Pro was because I needed the extra screen real estate which I can now get for a 1000$ cheaper than what I paid for my laptop.
I think both of you are not considering an aspect of human nature. This relates to the decoy effect.
People want more. People regularly get more than they need, and I mean that in every way.
No one needs to drive a car with 1000hp and a 2 and a half second 0-60 time to go to the store to buy milk. But, here we are.
The VAST majority of the population doesn’t even come close to utilizing what their computer is really capable of (not until years and years later when their machine isn’t performing as well).
The average person doesn’t do much more than surf the web and check email. That average person is still buying a MacBook Pro a lot of the time (the majority of sales are not to people maxing out the performance of their computers).
I was being generous when I only suggested upgrading the hard drive. That’s something a lot of people fill up. I imagine a lot of people are going to upgrade the real performance of their machine and don’t really need to.
We aren’t talking about what YOU would do. We are talking about what the average person would do. YOU may go to a theater and only want a medium soda and only buy a medium soda. MOST people see the price of the medium and the price of the large, then think about how they like more, and then buy the large that they don’t really need, just because it feels like they’re getting more for their money.
That is the decoy effect. I feel like each of you just separately asked me to explain it in more detail. It isn’t about if YOU fall for it.
You can get cheaper external hard drives and ssds. Ram would be the essential upgrade for a lot of folks.
@@prakash_77 could be. As a software engineer every company I’m at hands their people at MacBook Pro on day one. Depending on the role you get more RAM and HD space. External drives aren’t really an option. If you need to be mobile external stuff that could have instead been internal is a real drag.
I definitely upgraded my MacBook Pro with more RAM and HD space. But, I have need for that professionally.
Would be curious to hear from Apple how often people upgrade either of those things Vs both Vs neither!
ya indeed its frustrated , it's not cheap for each of the Mac machine.
Not once you upgrade to 16gb and 512 which the base 14 comes with
Greater surface area is a more noticeable and measurable improvement than the refresh rate of the pro models. Ditto for weight.
People are saying the 14" has a better screen without doing a "blind" view test.
The display on the Air is as good as the MB Pro in most regards, especially for SDR viewing which is what most of us will do on an ultrabook. HDR is nice but I barely use it and I run my Macs in power saving mode unless I need the performance so 120Hz will be disabled. The advantages of the MB Pro 14 are not as obvious as people make out. The speakers are a bit better but any extra performance is moot if you are happy with the Air as an alternative. I would definitely get the MB Air 15 as it has a larger display than the MB Pro 14 and that is the USP of the Air 15-inch and why most people will buy it. So those saying buy the 14 are missing the point.
@@andyH_England yeah the air has a bigger display, not sure does it also have more pixels? the 15 air has better speakers than the 13 air. so the 14" pro isn't going to be that much better, if you want the best speakers you should get the 16"
@@andyH_England ProMotion saves battery because most of the time it's lowering the refresh rate below 60, so by disabling 120 Hz you're actually locking it to 60 and hurting the battery even more. The only reason that option is there is to force matching refresh rate to a program for professional work, not battery which is why you can't disable it on iPhones cause it would be stupid to.
@@Krolitian1 ProMotion on the Macs are not LTPO, so they could be more helpful regarding battery life. For example, the lowest rate is 24Hz (video). But if the video is in YT, and you are also scrolling comments, it will remain at 120Hz. I have tested, and there is a nominal gain in keeping 120Hz on for my workflow.
@@abc123fhdi True.
Vooovv, It looks soo big than I expected.
Its $300 more expensive in my part of the world. Its almost $1599 here for the base model Macbook Air 15inch. Damn it. Im Probably happy with my Air 2017 model which still functions well and wait a bit for a price drop or sale on the new model. Not doing video editing just using it for work so it should be fine.
So no speed test no ssd test? How hard would it be to see if the SSD can keep up with the M1…? Btw I paid 799 for the M1 from Costco. Still happy with my M1... So I'll wait for the 70% faster M3 and get it with 16gb... Should be future proof for the next 5 years or so.
Dave2D looked at SSD speed and said it was a non-issue to the vast majority as they do not stress test their MB Airs, which differs from what a fanless laptop is meant for. All Apple has done is move to how 99% of 256GB SSDs work in Windows machines. For example, my Galaxy Book2 Pro gets less than 1Gbps when on battery in sequential tests, but that is more than I need for the external devices I use.
The notch is lazy design especially since this thing doesn't have Face ID. Other brands can fit a basic webcam into a small bezel, Apple could too.
Wait there’s no Face ID? Then wtf is the point?
1299 plus applecare is $1500 plus tax. That's a lot
You need to be more transparent and realistic when you talk about the range. MBA is not useable/feasible in base 8GB/256GB form. You need 16GB and 512GB as a min. But once you do that the price is more than 14” Pro referb. The MBA needs to start with much higher specs.
The screen, ports on both side, speakers make the extra worth the money and again you shouldn’t suggest they would cost more. Ports are nothing, even just puts one of the 2 on the otherside. One side makes it’s a mess.
Don’t buy the MBA, jump to MBP, it’s worth it and is by far the goto max of the range.
Been using the M1, M2 base models airs and now the 15inch base for work home etc with absolutely no problem. i also have a 16” pro The base models of the M1m2 airs are fine for Office apps web browsing some 4k vid editing. This is the best option for most people use ICloud for storage so everything is accessible on all devices. People get way too hung up on over specking for what they actually do. Sure if you are a heavy content creator or actually need more storage or ram get it or move up to a pro but for the consumer base this is targeting it would be a waste of money. The base model is more than enough for most people who are using this for office apps, web browsing and checking emails. And it handles most photo editing and 4k video editing fine. No sense in buying something that is overkill if your not going to need or use the extra power.
@@Toby-vj3os base model is just garbage, apple shouldn’t be selling any macs with 8GB ram and or 256GB SSD. And no, iCloud is a mess, not a chance. Why subscribe to something you might need 🤣
@@nothingtosee7718 we’re all entitled to our opinions I have no problems. And work with a company that has 5000 plus employees that mostly use Base models of macs. If you need more for gaming or video editing get more. Get a pro. The mba wasn’t designed for pro work to begin with. Your money but to just trash base models for everyone else leads me to think maybe its not the machine thats the problem and more of a ego trip. As far as ICloud the same works fine for me and many others. Everyone needs to figure out what they actually need versus these tube comments. Maybe instead of general bashing of base models give some examples. Maybe the base model isn’t for you. Of course if you are editing 8k video or need the extra storage or ram then a base model won’t cut it but for the average user they are fine. You state that the base model of the mac book air is not usable or feasible explain that. Plenty of colleges students are very happy with the base model mba.
@@Toby-vj3os it makes no sense to get it, you need the 16GB or you get swaps after about 8 or 9 tabs.. the SSD speed is low and in addition to you have to manage storage on the 256GB model. so now you've added the prerequisite, that puts you right at the same cost as a refurb'd 14, without all the benefits of the 14 which are significant. So the only real reason to get a MBA is the cheap entry point. But from a TCO point of view and user point of view you're still better with the pro and it will outlast the MBA and still have a better resale in 3 years.
And I had an MBA and returned it..
I cloud, too expensive, too slow and I don't need the same files on 8 laptops, I can simply put them on a NAS with better performance and no endless subscription or limits.
@@nothingtosee7718 there again you get what you need. I can easily run several tabs in Crome np and have seen little to no swapping with 8 gig of RAM. On average I use less than 3-4 tabs anyway and usually close them all out when finished. Just habit from windows days. As far as ssd speed. I really don’t notice any difference between my pro and air but then again I’m not a power user. As far as I Cloud i pay like $1.00 a month for 1TB which is plenty for me I have yet to close to being out of disk space but i also don’t download a lot of useless apps or games. If you need that then go for the pro and yes before I would pay extra to upgrade a mba I would definitely consider the pro I f I needed that but I don’t. However the portability is another consideration. So a upgraded mba may be better for some. All Im saying is the base mba is fine for the majority of users doing everyday task. If you need more certainly get more but to outright bash the base models as garbage just because they don’t suit your particular needs or wants and discourage others who would be perfectly happy with a base model is a little lame. I still have a 2019 intel mba that runs great. No way near the performance and battery life of M1 or M2 but still handles office work web browsing with ease. And never had a issue with the keys like some did with that model.
Extra ports will be on next year's model for an extra charge of course. The Apple upcharge is real.
If you are done with the review you can consider to send one to me . I can give a review after using my first mac
Well that's why it's important to keep your eyes open for deals. I've seen MBP 14s for 1500$ MBPs 16 for 2k new from Bestbuy. Also logically considering the future 8gb with 256gb is unrealistic for new purchases so once you factor that in, the only 15" you should get is the 16gb 1TB version which is 1700$ some might say you don't need 1TB well you do when it's only 100$ more for 512gbs of space.
8GB 256GB is fine for many people. Not everybody, no, but many people yes.
@RoastBeefSandwich yes if you already have it like I do, then you don't need it. Most people right now, yes, don't need it. But if you're spending 1000s of dollars in 2023, then it's much better to upgrade the laptop you're buying now and not need the space instead of needing the space and not being able to upgrade it. But yes, from a pure hardware perspective the M1 8gb 256gb is ideal for 95% of people. But financially and future proof friendly it's better to upgrade it now if you plan to buy new.
If your just getting it for casual internet use, streaming every now and then, and using a photo library it’s more than enough.
@@HayastAnFedayi yes but financially inefficient
Base model only has 8GB of Ram. You can’t get it upgraded to 16GBs unless you order it directly from Apple. It means Best Buy, Amazon and other online shops will only have 8GB version. At least 8GB on Mac OS is equivalent to having 16GB of Ram in Windows.
8GB on Mac OS is NOT equivalent to having 16GB of Ram in Windows. The exact behavior depends on the workload, and some systems use RAM more aggressively than others by design and they rely on using swap/pagefiles more. If you primarily use your computer for web browsing, watching videos, writing docs, and similar lighter loads, you'll be more than fine with 8GB on Windows as well. This is my experience, not an assumption btw.
Also, if your Windows PC has 8GB of RAM but has a fast disk just like Macbooks have, that helps a lot in situations where you exceed your RAM capacity and OS is forced to use disk cache/swap/pagefiles more.
Fact is most people don't need more thatn 8gb in MacOS. They just don't.
People love to complain about it as a number, but in real use it's just not an issue for most users.
@@Adam-vx6to Fact is most people don't need more than 8gb of RAM on any OS.
@@Jasterrrr yup, it’s more of the same baseless numbers only arguments that don’t actually make sense. Same people would say android phones were better because more ram or higher MP cameras. They just don’t understand
Don't sleep on the original M1 Air. In my case, I use it on the couch and at cafes, and then I connect it to a 32" 1440p 75Hz display with mouse and keyboard and it becomes a productivity monster.
We want the 12’ macbook with m2 chip.
No we don't
Maybe in US
In Asia, it’s bordering MacBook Pro M2 Price. 😅
That is due to import duty, taxes and exchange rates and is more to do with Asian Government’s anti-import strategy. Blaming Apple for that is unfair.
I’m surprise apple give you 8 gig of ram for 1299
no notch would be better. glad I got M1
Just the 13 inch Air is selling in Australia for $1,800 AUD which is too expensive for me so I will pass on that. The 15 is about $2,300 AUD . Apple are pricing themselves out of the market in my humble opinion.
get the student discount, also I got a $150 gift card. Nor sure if they give that for the pro and probably not if you buy refurbished.
They might be pricing themselves out of the Australian market, but in the United States and Europe prices are fine
@@abc123fhdi oh cool, is the gift card for anyone who’s purchasing this laptop?
@@wendywang1770 no it's with the student discount, but anyone can get the student discount.
They are not pricing anything. Blame AUS.
I wonder why everyone is getting the starlight to review. I think maybe this is the least popular color? Hence them wanting to push sales?
Last year they pushed the midnight version for the 13 inch, so this year they’re pushing the starlight.
I think Starlight has fewer fingerprint issues than the Midnight, which was a constant refrain from the 13" reviews.
Talking about affordable price to n base model but it is a trap cause nobody buy the base model cause the ssd low and small. So at the end the real price is more expensive.
Over 50% of MB Airs sold are the base model, so that is blatantly untrue.
If all you do is surf the net and you use cloud storage, you do not need much more than 256.
I will say, I low key regret not getting 512 on my M1 Air, as Warcraft now eats up like 40% of the storage space 🤣🤣
That's literally a lie. Base model is FINE for most users. Cut the BS.
Cnet do you get sponsored by apple 🍎
"Far more affordable than pro." Sure; unless you want more than the base model. Then it it's not. At that point, the pro becomes a far better deal when you look outside the Apple Store.
Is that his real hair?
Only if you go for the base model though.
Why do they have a notch still? This is a laptop, not a smartphone. There is no need for a notch, they can put the web cam in the slim bezel. Gonna wait for the day they make a notchless laptop.
Not with a notch.
🙄
Don't buy less than 16gb ram
Waste of money if you go for higher storage it's gonna be overpriced. With that some money you can buy a Windows laptop that's two times better.
As I rock my 17 inch Hp computer !
Can’t believe how much Apples laptop design has regressed over the last 10 years.
They are amazing. WTF are you talking about
@@Adam-vx6to The lack of ports is what I'm referring to. WTF are talking about you blimp!
The notch pises me off they did it on purpose
Better to be pissed off than pissed on.
So, you like a bigger screen, ok🙂
Waste of time . There will be tons of unpacking video , then display and sound, then test video, then comparing with m1 pro video, then “5 reasons to buy Macbook Air 15”, and “5 reasons why I still choose m1 pro than Air 15” . In a year a new laptop will come out and the cycle will repeat
THE PRİCE İS CHEAP, THE SİZE İS GOOD!
Only 5 years late😅
Game changer.l
Boring review 😢
Yo
M2 😂
I would never buy a fan-less notebook computer, the throttling would be obnoxious.
it does a better job at sustained workloads than the 13" Air.
Really depends on what you are doing with it.
This isn't a windows trash can. M2 is miles ahead of anything on windows
You have to run a heavy load for 10 minutes straight before it throttles, and it still runs well when throttled - it doesn't reduce the performance by a big amount.