ok i've played a fine amount of strive (literally my only fighting game unless you count like 30 minutes worth of ps4 share umvc3) and i've never played xrd but from what i've seen xrd and +r clips are usually always something new happening that i've never seen before in any other clip, and in strive clips i feel like i'm watching the same thing i've seen countless times before, which makes me really curious about what it's like to play those other games in the series. i own xrd and haven't played any of it, but from what i've heard it's a discord fighter, which is probably going to be a very painful experience lmao
If you have it on pc, it is not a discord fighter and is my favorite fighting game of all time. Feel free to join my discord for more personal games, but you can always hop in the player made lobbies to find people. Look for the blue symbols next to names since they are newer to the game. Enjoy bud, it's a great ride
You've also perfectly described what i feel about strive and never knew how to put it into words. It really is the same stuff. Not enough variety in interactions and combos. I think the air tech out situation compared to juggling them really is the culprit
(Did my previous comment get deleted? I despise TH-cam.) You should try the old games out. People fell in love with them for a reason. Xrd and +R both have fairly healthy populations given their age. +R reliably has at least a handful of people playing at any time of day, many of whom don't have 30,000+ games played. Of course it's busier during evenings and weekends. Xrd has a significantly worse online experience but there are still player lobbies in the evenings, and the Rev2 Matchmaking Hub Discord is a good way to find opponents around your skill level who actually care about the game.
@@LucidButtonMasher I dunno how you fix it necessarily. I prefer Strive’s idea of combos because they feel less like I’m memorizing paragraphs of combos and I can just kinda do stuff and it works. Like my least favorite thing in Strive is memorizing like 3 different charged dust combos for different characters, and Xrd has a lot of character specific stuff. Maybe that’s also part of it like oops you did c.S there but this is the combo you do on semi-medium weight and you have to 5K instead of c.S on hit number 15. At the same time, yeah Strive just feels like I’m doing the same things all the time. There’s gotta be a middle ground somewhere I think?
the strive slayer change i can't get over is the mappa hitbox actually reaching his hand now. i feel like it was not meant to trade with any faust far slash but now it does, thankfully good old 2h works
respectfully, it feels like "when my game is jank its funny and cool, but when strive is jank its bad and cringe" great video either way (also i-no's super is invulnerable throughout the move but not on start up)
Yeah it definitely is that. I have a bias i can't get over since i genuinely don't enjoy strive as a whole. That may be unfair due to how i complain about it. I just enjoy what i enjoy
@@LucidButtonMasherBut like genuinely though, why do you keep playing it? If you actually aren't having a good time, do you actually derive more pleasure from being negative than being positive? Nobody's stopping you from doing the things that you enjoy doing more
@@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587 He came back to it cuz his favourite character got released for it. Had fun with the character, but found out it still wasn't enough to get him to like the game.
It was fun watching you play Strive while it lasted. Glad you gave it a shot, but if you're not having fun, you're not having fun. I still like it just cuz it's my favorite version of Potemkin (Giganter being actually useful is nice), but I cannot deny that previous versions of Slayer have more sauce.
@@DestroyerOfDoom Still trying to get used to the new inputs. The new heat tackle input was easy enough to get used to, but the half circle back forward is hard for me to do on command for HPB. Also need to figure out what to do with the changed Garuda Impact, as you can't really Garuda into Garuda safely anymore. Still too early to say if he's better or worse, but these are easily the most significant changes he has gotten since Strive's release, to the point where I've seen folks calling him an entirely new character. Gonna take some time to get used to everything, Strive is easily the most complicated fighting game I play. *Disclaimer: I am what you would call a casual player. My experiences likely do not match the experiences of most other Pot players.
I think that he would still only have 1 jump but the ability to jump cancel his command dash special to add momentum to his jump and a super jump to get some serious height. Also maybe allow him to create frame traps and cut through projectiles by charging his Slash and Heavy Slash (Sword) attacks. Edit: Also give charged sword attacks higher counter hit properties than they usually would be just for the hell of it.
@@LucidButtonMasherisn't that Hos? (Also Robo already cool >:[) I think Nagoriyuki actually kinda fits pretty well with the old gear character gimmicks, like Sin's hunger and whatnot. Just ya know, different gattling stuff, and most likely affect his kit to be even more bs :]
As I understand it (megalomania is a bit weird), the invuln lasts from the moment she starts posing (not a superflash btw), to the moment she stops shooting. The delay of when she poses to when she fires is villanously long, but it's consistently punishable with a cross-over from mid-screen.
@@LucidButtonMasher At least you tried. Many Xrd players criticise Strive without playing it. It's a personal choice to refuse playing a game, but blaming it without playing it is just disrespectful.
So, I found hidden tech with may in ACPR during one of my match. Which I call 6p charge cancel which allows her to cancel into specials, command grab and super even jackhound. Help her to play mind-game. Break game rule. Now, may has her own mist-finer.
That sounds interesting I will definitely try to do Yamada san, jackhound or other special with charge 6H. Since, I am aware charge 6H only cancels into command grab.
Thoughts on the new Chipp special? (Im genuinely surprised they made something outside of the box for Chipp considering hes had nearly everything already)
going off from what ive experienced with both games (~10ish hours on both +R and strive, nothing big), strive just feels waaaaaay more cramped as opposed to +R's fluid movement
I feel Strive focused on the current generation with Street fighter approach with Nrs level Gatling and wall-break pretty much traditional fighting game that what I am getting most of the time.
see a lot of flag against strive. I wanted to play strive because of the beginner friendliness the as I am stuck with Plus R (which some call it a good thing) but as I played more online matches kinda lost interest since many players I played with in the +R discord are practically veterans and feel like can’t really compete. Or I am just not Dandy enough
It all takes time. There are plenty of people who are new you can practice with, asking for new players in my or that discord does help. Either way, being good always takes time
Alternatively, you are your own person allowed to have your own opinion. You can like something that someone else dislikes and it won't make you a sheep or trash or whatever else they'd like to say. Maybe that's a pansy take, but I just think it's better to do stuff that you enjoy and to enjoy talking about it, rather than to keep doing something you don't like and complaining about it. All this to say, give Strive a try. Like myself, you might actually end up liking it more than the older games, but thats just my opinion
it cant hurt to give it a shot, some people disliking strive doesnt mean you wont like it, you might like it for the reasons others dont one mans trash might be another mans treasure after all the old games are just a little more crazy but that comes with a lot of things that some people wont enjoy having to deal with, whereas strive is more grounded and simpler in some ways
Just so everyone knows. Slayers crouching heavyslash was never special cancellable in past guilty gears. This is one of the reasons why I believe strive slayer is so much more powerful. Spread the word. The devs need to find out about this fatal mistake
On pc i rarely have to host my own lobby. There's almost always people hosting in the us. And rollback is good enough to join eu and South America lobbies for me with my Internet. Plus you can always join the xrd or my discord and hit people up. It's worth it
He's always been a comical proportions character to be fair. Pilebunker always stretched his arm out and undertow in xrd made him have huge claws like strive 2s
i was pretty devastated to find out he's omega braindead in this game so i dont play him but im glad people are having fun with him even tho i despise fighting him
@@LucidButtonMasher in the other games you at least needed to be a conscious entity but in this game you could be a single celled organism and win with him so dont discredit yourself too much
@@LucidButtonMasher last time i played, been a while, you can punish from behind after she fires. i play against my brother and she's a pocket pick of his.
ok i've played a fine amount of strive (literally my only fighting game unless you count like 30 minutes worth of ps4 share umvc3) and i've never played xrd but from what i've seen xrd and +r clips are usually always something new happening that i've never seen before in any other clip, and in strive clips i feel like i'm watching the same thing i've seen countless times before, which makes me really curious about what it's like to play those other games in the series. i own xrd and haven't played any of it, but from what i've heard it's a discord fighter, which is probably going to be a very painful experience lmao
If you have it on pc, it is not a discord fighter and is my favorite fighting game of all time. Feel free to join my discord for more personal games, but you can always hop in the player made lobbies to find people. Look for the blue symbols next to names since they are newer to the game. Enjoy bud, it's a great ride
You've also perfectly described what i feel about strive and never knew how to put it into words. It really is the same stuff. Not enough variety in interactions and combos. I think the air tech out situation compared to juggling them really is the culprit
If you own xrd on Playstation I'd be willing to go a couple rounds later. I'm not the best but I do try.
(Did my previous comment get deleted? I despise TH-cam.)
You should try the old games out. People fell in love with them for a reason.
Xrd and +R both have fairly healthy populations given their age. +R reliably has at least a handful of people playing at any time of day, many of whom don't have 30,000+ games played. Of course it's busier during evenings and weekends.
Xrd has a significantly worse online experience but there are still player lobbies in the evenings, and the Rev2 Matchmaking Hub Discord is a good way to find opponents around your skill level who actually care about the game.
@@LucidButtonMasher
I dunno how you fix it necessarily.
I prefer Strive’s idea of combos because they feel less like I’m memorizing paragraphs of combos and I can just kinda do stuff and it works. Like my least favorite thing in Strive is memorizing like 3 different charged dust combos for different characters, and Xrd has a lot of character specific stuff. Maybe that’s also part of it like oops you did c.S there but this is the combo you do on semi-medium weight and you have to 5K instead of c.S on hit number 15.
At the same time, yeah Strive just feels like I’m doing the same things all the time.
There’s gotta be a middle ground somewhere I think?
Thanks for the text on screen again. Can't hear anything with my hearing.
I'm also not a great annunciator so i figured itd be best
the strive slayer change i can't get over is the mappa hitbox actually reaching his hand now. i feel like it was not meant to trade with any faust far slash but now it does, thankfully good old 2h works
It's a real truck of a move
Slayer must go through a lot of shoes they way he slides around all over the place
wd40 goes a long way
Bat juices help I'm sure
respectfully, it feels like "when my game is jank its funny and cool, but when strive is jank its bad and cringe" great video either way
(also i-no's super is invulnerable throughout the move but not on start up)
Yeah it definitely is that. I have a bias i can't get over since i genuinely don't enjoy strive as a whole. That may be unfair due to how i complain about it. I just enjoy what i enjoy
we all have our Biases and its all fine and *D A N D Y*
@@ryanrcosta real
@@LucidButtonMasherBut like genuinely though, why do you keep playing it? If you actually aren't having a good time, do you actually derive more pleasure from being negative than being positive?
Nobody's stopping you from doing the things that you enjoy doing more
@@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587 He came back to it cuz his favourite character got released for it. Had fun with the character, but found out it still wasn't enough to get him to like the game.
It was fun watching you play Strive while it lasted. Glad you gave it a shot, but if you're not having fun, you're not having fun. I still like it just cuz it's my favorite version of Potemkin (Giganter being actually useful is nice), but I cannot deny that previous versions of Slayer have more sauce.
It is what it is
How do you feel about pot now
@@DestroyerOfDoom Still trying to get used to the new inputs. The new heat tackle input was easy enough to get used to, but the half circle back forward is hard for me to do on command for HPB. Also need to figure out what to do with the changed Garuda Impact, as you can't really Garuda into Garuda safely anymore. Still too early to say if he's better or worse, but these are easily the most significant changes he has gotten since Strive's release, to the point where I've seen folks calling him an entirely new character. Gonna take some time to get used to everything, Strive is easily the most complicated fighting game I play.
*Disclaimer: I am what you would call a casual player. My experiences likely do not match the experiences of most other Pot players.
captions on screen MY LIFE IS YOURS THANK YOY
Took a lot more time but figured itd be worth it
It was fun while it lasted. Cant wait for Queen Dizzy and Venom to drop cause I do prefer strive but we all have our personal preferences.
Indeed we do
Sometimes I wonder how nago would function in the older games like +r or xrd
I imagine like robo ky but good
I think that he would still only have 1 jump but the ability to jump cancel his command dash special to add momentum to his jump and a super jump to get some serious height. Also maybe allow him to create frame traps and cut through projectiles by charging his Slash and Heavy Slash (Sword) attacks.
Edit: Also give charged sword attacks higher counter hit properties than they usually would be just for the hell of it.
pretty sure someones porting him over to xrd so go find out fulfil your dreams
@@lizabeth529 ooo cool
@@LucidButtonMasherisn't that Hos? (Also Robo already cool >:[)
I think Nagoriyuki actually kinda fits pretty well with the old gear character gimmicks, like Sin's hunger and whatnot. Just ya know, different gattling stuff, and most likely affect his kit to be even more bs :]
As I understand it (megalomania is a bit weird), the invuln lasts from the moment she starts posing (not a superflash btw), to the moment she stops shooting.
The delay of when she poses to when she fires is villanously long, but it's consistently punishable with a cross-over from mid-screen.
Yeah if i jump forward i might've been fine
for a slayer player video i enjoyed seeing different characters played aswell, spiced things up and sums up how chaotic guity gear is
Guilty Gear is a good game
Hes slowly losing his mind in a dandy way
Mental illness? DANDY
We need a Lucid Button Masher skin Mod for the lord of 6P.
How so? I like the one i already used
I wish answer command grab was a hitgrab or atleast comboable in the air
That would make his air combos very very good lol. Getting that great oki even on the hard to combo light weights would be incredible
@@LucidButtonMasher THATS WHAT IM SAYIN 😭😭😭
Ma man and his classic 6P, I swear...
Top tier content
It never fails
Y'know, this makes me more curious about trying +R honestly. (Still like Strive, but the series as a whole just kinda grabbed my attention lol)
Put it on your wish list. It goes on sale for 3 bucks often. Big recommend
I think bro's favorite guilty gear is strive 😂
Unfortunately it's Xrd
Fortunately, unfortunately. I enjoy what i enjoy. And it's not strive
@@LucidButtonMasher But you still keep playing Strive to pull communities of Xrd and Strive closer. Respect your efforts man
Ive tried. Mostly just wanted to try Slayer and see how it felt
@@LucidButtonMasher At least you tried. Many Xrd players criticise Strive without playing it. It's a personal choice to refuse playing a game, but blaming it without playing it is just disrespectful.
i like the idea of this being the last strive video, i'm personally going cold turkey until venom
Hope I'll get to play venom in xrd or plus r by then
catching these streams was pretty fun, hopefully you'll do some more to get clips for the answer video that will be coming soon™
Maybe I'll just do an answer stream at that point lol
as a xrd/+r slayer myself, 2H is the most busted normal to be able to cancel from
Even in plus r i think it was too good lol. Though xrd is a bit lacking and you only use it in combos
@@LucidButtonMasherwhat made +r slayer 2H so much better than xrd slayer 2H?
@chinsum9278 it gave a stagger and could be spammed, where xrd it just launches and cannot be converted off without the corner or meter
Was certainly fun while it lasted.
6:39 RIP Strive Slayer round start shenanigans you will be missed...
😔
Why rip?
@@LucidButtonMasher I don't play strive anymore either lol
So, I found hidden tech with may in ACPR during one of my match. Which I call 6p charge cancel which allows her to cancel into specials, command grab and super even jackhound. Help her to play mind-game. Break game rule. Now, may has her own mist-finer.
Yeah it's messed up. She can do it with 6h too
That sounds interesting I will definitely try to do Yamada san, jackhound or other special with charge 6H. Since, I am aware charge 6H only cancels into command grab.
@firetoofan5555 experiment and have fun bud
you have said you like melty aacc in the past, so now i am asking for a melty gameplay video
I have a few on my channel. Take a look. Some of the first content i posted. Also have some more recent ones i think around 2 years ago or so
Thoughts on the new Chipp special? (Im genuinely surprised they made something outside of the box for Chipp considering hes had nearly everything already)
Just had to look it up. Fits his kit but very weird. Guess they wanted people to use the wall run so much they put it mid screen
going off from what ive experienced with both games (~10ish hours on both +R and strive, nothing big), strive just feels waaaaaay more cramped as opposed to +R's fluid movement
It definitely is by design
Strive is meant to have a More Honest Neutral and More limited Movement, alongside a Smaller Screen.
I feel Strive focused on the current generation with Street fighter approach with Nrs level Gatling and wall-break pretty much traditional fighting game that what I am getting most of the time.
see a lot of flag against strive. I wanted to play strive because of the beginner friendliness the as I am stuck with Plus R (which some call it a good thing) but as I played more online matches kinda lost interest since many players I played with in the +R discord are practically veterans and feel like can’t really compete. Or I am just not Dandy enough
It all takes time. There are plenty of people who are new you can practice with, asking for new players in my or that discord does help. Either way, being good always takes time
Alternatively, you are your own person allowed to have your own opinion.
You can like something that someone else dislikes and it won't make you a sheep or trash or whatever else they'd like to say. Maybe that's a pansy take, but I just think it's better to do stuff that you enjoy and to enjoy talking about it, rather than to keep doing something you don't like and complaining about it.
All this to say, give Strive a try. Like myself, you might actually end up liking it more than the older games, but thats just my opinion
it cant hurt to give it a shot, some people disliking strive doesnt mean you wont like it, you might like it for the reasons others dont
one mans trash might be another mans treasure after all
the old games are just a little more crazy but that comes with a lot of things that some people wont enjoy having to deal with, whereas strive is more grounded and simpler in some ways
Just so everyone knows. Slayers crouching heavyslash was never special cancellable in past guilty gears. This is one of the reasons why I believe strive slayer is so much more powerful.
Spread the word. The devs need to find out about this fatal mistake
They definitely thought about it and placed the hitbox on his legs for combo purposes
@@LucidButtonMasher that's so messed up..
Id love to try and learn xrd but it seems like theres barely any people online
On pc i rarely have to host my own lobby. There's almost always people hosting in the us. And rollback is good enough to join eu and South America lobbies for me with my Internet. Plus you can always join the xrd or my discord and hit people up. It's worth it
@LucidButtonMasher Oh ok cool! Might just have to get it when it goes on sale then thanks
@theanimepotato6934 hell yeah. Greatness awaits
When they're in the same video next to each other, older games look a lot more appealing than strive
Hehehehe working as intended
I still detest the Mario fair hands that they gave Slayer jH and 2S in this game. Looks so stupid.
He's always been a comical proportions character to be fair. Pilebunker always stretched his arm out and undertow in xrd made him have huge claws like strive 2s
i was pretty devastated to find out he's omega braindead in this game so i dont play him but im glad people are having fun with him even tho i despise fighting him
Im no expert in terms of brain needed but even i found some success
@@LucidButtonMasher in the other games you at least needed to be a conscious entity but in this game you could be a single celled organism and win with him so dont discredit yourself too much
Are... are most of your opponents just.... Sol players?
He is the poster boy after all so maybe. Pretty common in all games
You cannot Punish Megalovania sadly, it is Full Invuln. until the End of Active Frames.
Wack
@@LucidButtonMasher last time i played, been a while, you can punish from behind after she fires. i play against my brother and she's a pocket pick of his.
@Nicklearn-k3x i guess i gotta jump forward over her
that's legacy slayer guitygear player losing his mind????
It felt like it
HES STILL PLAYING MID, STOP THAT RIGHT THIS INSTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was months ago to be fair
@@LucidButtonMasher still played strive :revelatorsol:
Even if Slayer was the most fun character on the game (he might be), at the end of the day unfortunately its still Strive.
That's why i stopped
why do you submit yourself to playing a game you dont like
This was months ago and right when the Slayer stuff was wearing off. Had to dump the clips eventually
absurd idea: stop playing games you don't like
Hence the description
10:10 Casually approaching woman to 6P
Works every time. No woman has touched me yet (men do come to compliment my 6ps though)