Very good to hear an unbiased opinion on Irish history from an English person. Should be a mandatory watch for students in the UK where a good percentage are totally unaware of Irish history and the level involvement of the UK has had in it. I heard of some who are totally unaware of where the Irish/Northern Irish border lies & others who still think that all of Island of Ireland is still part of the UK.
That was an extremely comprehensive, articulate, and concise historical summary of how the people of Ireland was subjugated by the British as their first colony. Notably, good queen Bess used starvation as a tactic to bring the Irish under control. And they called her sister Bloody Mary! going forward Ireland had a second extremely devastating famine, which was not a famine, because during that time of the “great hunger,“ food was actually being exported from Ireland to Britain. They just didn’t want to give it to the poor peasants who ate potatoes as their primary food. Well, the potatoes were infested with rot, and the people ate grass and died with green tears. 1 million Irish left under these desperate circumstances. Maybe the Victorians took the playbook from their good Queen BESS.
God did I miss this voice, fond memories of Hannibal in Spain come to mind... What a joy to find it once more, in such a magnificent video! Subscribed :-)
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You did a really good job with this. So many others don't. Thank you for all your narrations, it saves me the enormous hassle of having to read a book 😂❤❤
Ayyyy it's my favourite presenter from history marche! I was sad when you stopped doing voice overs there. Great to see you've got your own thing going here! Look forward to some great content!
@@alexanderdoddy7590 hahaa. Def in the right career path for sure. Blew my mind. Literally all my favorites from people profiles have you doing them. Now just gotta try to talk/pay you for a Brian Boru!!
@@JollyPirateAhoy Thankyou! More Irish history is definitely on the cards at some point. Also various options on the Patreon to vote/choose a video topic
"The precursor to the American colonies" that's absolutely true, the planation's the one in Munster created by Warham St Leger and Richard Grenville and later the Ulster enterprise were the first corporate colonies they were rebranded or dissolved and became the Virginia stock company.
Definitely need to look into it as that would be a very interesting video! It set the precedent for how the English would treat many colonies. They learnt lessons from the plantations, that the best way to keep control of the area you have conquered from the folk already there, is to fill it with your people as fast as possible.
@@alexanderdoddy7590 That was their plan anyway. There's a few scholars that touched on this history. "This Famous Island in the Virginia Sea" and Nicholas Canny's work. Also in regards to Mary I planation or colony the forts around it where named as Fort protector and Fort governor, that sounds pretty American to me lol. Absolutely the East India company; I feel the colonial connection with North America is far stronger though. There's also a Irish connection to the British navy and also the British uniforms probably originated from the Lord lieutenant army dresses in Ireland, if you think about it the colours Red and Gold are Tudor colours. There's excellent documentation that shows the Irish used redcoat as a derogatory term for Tudor Soldiers in the 16th century. The term appears in North America with the immigration of the native Irish and the scots-Irish in the 18th century, as well as other places like France- Spain which had some brief high immigration from Ireland.
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 Very true! Definitely much closer for Ire-America than the EIC. By that point the process was further refined and far more insidious
@@alexanderdoddy7590 Ireland acted as a testing lab for British colonialism which was then exported to the other colonies, so even after other planation's had arose Ireland was still the blueprint. This also went for America's anti-british attitudes.
@@alexanderdoddy7590 Also Mary the I was Catholic, so the religious element was not that important if Queen Mary had remained on the throne Ireland may have been protestant back then.
Perhaps it’s the seeming inability of some white ppl to acknowledge colonialism in its various iterations that leads someone to make that comment. Just guessing.
Tbh the English crowd had it as bad as the Irish crowd. And if you've seen Les miserables, in France,sure your man was doing 20 years for stealing a loaf of bread..
Maybe a bit more on the role of the Gaelic Lords loyal to London .. e.g. Thomond Clanricard and O'Malleys won the battle of Kinsale for the English .. it was a battle between 2 majority irish speaking armies
There is definitely a lot more to it. The videos are an introduction to the topic / brief overview. Hopefully a great jumping off point if folks want to learn more :)
@@michael-qg9buI'm not sure but I know Grace O'Malley offered her help to the queen of England in helping clear the land of laois and Offaly against the lawlors o'moores and o'dempsey
This is a very well made video but the comment about the more powerful English is not very accurate at this time and yes England was powerful but Ireland with Hugh O'Neill waged a 9 Year War and defeated the English at every turn until lord mountjoy came the English thought the Irish where still in the stone age. Mountjoy put an end to that mindset but he was still in a very difficult situation and the fact before the battle of Kinsale queen Elizabeth died, mountjoy kept this to himself until after the battle but even mountjoy knew how powerful the Irish have gotten with training from the Spanish and mercenaries from Scotland from the king of Scotland himself and knew over the years of war how organized the Irish was. But I would love to see a video delving deeper into the Nine Year's War in Ireland after all history could've gone anyway at the battle of Kinsale.
I was born into a Celtic Nationalist family, and I'll admit, England certainly was more powerful. There was too much in-fighting in Ireland, like the Clan system in Scotland, it was becoming outdated and The Tudors brought the Irish into the Early-Modern Period. Ireland wasn't even united at this stage when they otherwise would have continued their game of thrones, plus, the video does mention the Irish military strength. I think it's fair, and I'm sure we would all love some more Irish history.
England had better manufacturing and supply chains for their weapons. That's it. The Irish in the 9 years war crushed the English at every turn except at Kinsale and the lack of Irish arms, ammo manufacturing and support from the Anglo Normans in the south of the country to multiplied the effects of the defeat.
There doesn't seem to be a distinct moral highground held by either the Tudors or the Irish ascendancy in their personal attributes. But the imposition of a new religion by force certainly appears to be a lawless act, especially where the conversion of King Henry VIII was clearly an act of schism based on worldy political expedience, hence clearly Satanic in nature. And the fact that this was of greater significance to the Anglo-Irish than their blood relationship with England shows how dire this event must have appeared to them. And the later genocidal and decidedly un-Christian strategies of power pursued by the witch-queen and her star chamber were evidence of the fall of the English monarchy into spiritual darkness, no doubt aided and abetted by the likes of John Dee and the Kabbalists.
@MichaelK.-x12qk, The money lenders/investors in war for profit were the "key" then. As they are, only much more so, now. It is a longer, larger, factor than most people realize. What is happening today in Palestine and Ukraine is the same story--only now more murky-- because of capture of the narrative by the body supposed to expose the truth. Everything people think they know, or have been told, is a lie. One assumes you mean "Satanic" as a metaphor?
Not sure if I would agree with the Ulster plantations being described as "ambitious social engineering". I would be more inclined to use the more modern description of "Ethnic Cleansing".
Ireland was Britain's first colony it was literally the blue print for the America's. The first British joint stock colony started in Ireland in 1568 headed by Warham St Leger and Richard Grenville in Cork, tracton and Kerricurrihy. The west countrymen got the idea to colonize the new world and the tactics used from their Irish colonies, they would export this idea around the world. The Normans lost most of their territory and never conquered most of Munster, it was the Tudors who committed mass ethnic cleansing.
@@wendyHewwell I think if you had made any kind of effort in understanding Irish history. Irish people are not the same race according to the english it was writing in British law in the act of union by George 3
Little Ireland gave the mighty English great fights ten years in Ulster kept the Irish back from a road even beating the English at hello fort but Irish drove nine out of ten settlers out of Ireland.byt Cromwell planted more and more was killed by Irish but Cromwell did not get his own way many of his troops who killed children where killed at Limerick on and cashek in fact he could have been beaten if Irish had more men but we are free of that Germanic shit now
cope you got decimated so hard by Cromwell that you still whine about it till this day, he beat you so hard he could do anything he wanted and so he enslaved many irish and sent them to the Caribbean.
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Very good to hear an unbiased opinion on Irish history from an English person. Should be a mandatory watch for students in the UK where a good percentage are totally unaware of Irish history and the level involvement of the UK has had in it. I heard of some who are totally unaware of where the Irish/Northern Irish border lies & others who still think that all of Island of Ireland is still part of the UK.
The Tudors...
The multi generational Mafia that loved to make offers you can't refuse...
“It’s not those who can inflict the most but those who can endure the most who will prevail.” Terence McSweeney.
He killed himself ffs
@@greatest7391 hunger strike which made him larger in death than in life
@@eugenemurtagh2085 Only made him famous that's all. It is a stupid form of protest!!
That was an extremely comprehensive, articulate, and concise historical summary of how the people of Ireland was subjugated by the British as their first colony. Notably, good queen Bess used starvation as a tactic to bring the Irish under control. And they called her sister Bloody Mary! going forward Ireland had a second extremely devastating famine, which was not a famine, because during that time of the “great hunger,“ food was actually being exported from Ireland to Britain. They just didn’t want to give it to the poor peasants who ate potatoes as their primary food. Well, the potatoes were infested with rot, and the people ate grass and died with green tears. 1 million Irish left under these desperate circumstances. Maybe the Victorians took the playbook from their good Queen BESS.
Enjoyed this very much! Glad I stumbled here! Subscribed and looking forward to more, very well done!!
Glad you enjoyed!
God did I miss this voice, fond memories of Hannibal in Spain come to mind...
What a joy to find it once more, in such a magnificent video! Subscribed :-)
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"The Tudor Conquest of Ireland" sounds like a grandiose name for robbery
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You did a really good job with this. So many others don't. Thank you for all your narrations, it saves me the enormous hassle of having to read a book 😂❤❤
Another great video mate. The Anglo-Irish history is a long and complex one. I can't wait for more 😊
Cheers dude :)
Outstanding and succinct. Two words which can rarely be used by videos on Irish history. So well-done. Hungry for more.
Much appreciated. Thankyou for watching!
The kildares held such sway today there is a countie named after them also in ireland if you have a heritage you can look up your clan creist
Ayyyy it's my favourite presenter from history marche! I was sad when you stopped doing voice overs there. Great to see you've got your own thing going here! Look forward to some great content!
Thanks! Hope you enjoy the videos :)
I was literally saying the same thing. Those hour-long voice overs while you’re cooking or whatever…
Brilliant video thank you
It's cool to finally get a face to the voice. You have quite the distinguished voice
Thankyou :)
It’s like he’s David Wenham’s more intense little brother.
@@seanfaherty Haha, thanks. Definitely great company to be in
Hearing this guy on people profiles I always assumed he would be like 50-60 years old.
just the joints of a 50 year old in a 30 year old's body
@@alexanderdoddy7590 hahaa. Def in the right career path for sure. Blew my mind. Literally all my favorites from people profiles have you doing them. Now just gotta try to talk/pay you for a Brian Boru!!
@@JollyPirateAhoy Thankyou! More Irish history is definitely on the cards at some point. Also various options on the Patreon to vote/choose a video topic
@@alexanderdoddy7590 I'm heading over now
I cant get enough of marche voice
Thanks for watching :)
Yes, more conquest videos! :)
Definitely on the list. At some point (if the channel does well) we may get some graphics going!
"The precursor to the American colonies" that's absolutely true, the planation's the one in Munster created by Warham St Leger and Richard Grenville and later the Ulster enterprise were the first corporate colonies they were rebranded or dissolved and became the Virginia stock company.
Definitely need to look into it as that would be a very interesting video! It set the precedent for how the English would treat many colonies. They learnt lessons from the plantations, that the best way to keep control of the area you have conquered from the folk already there, is to fill it with your people as fast as possible.
@@alexanderdoddy7590 That was their plan anyway. There's a few scholars that touched on this history. "This Famous Island in the Virginia Sea" and Nicholas Canny's work.
Also in regards to Mary I planation or colony the forts around it where named as Fort protector and Fort governor, that sounds pretty American to me lol.
Absolutely the East India company; I feel the colonial connection with North America is far stronger though.
There's also a Irish connection to the British navy and also the British uniforms probably originated from the Lord lieutenant army dresses in Ireland, if you think about it the colours Red and Gold are Tudor colours.
There's excellent documentation that shows the Irish used redcoat as a derogatory term for Tudor Soldiers in the 16th century. The term appears in North America with the immigration of the native Irish and the scots-Irish in the 18th century, as well as other places like France- Spain which had some brief high immigration from Ireland.
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 Very true!
Definitely much closer for Ire-America than the EIC. By that point the process was further refined and far more insidious
@@alexanderdoddy7590 Ireland acted as a testing lab for British colonialism which was then exported to the other colonies, so even after other planation's had arose Ireland was still the blueprint.
This also went for America's anti-british attitudes.
@@alexanderdoddy7590 Also Mary the I was Catholic, so the religious element was not that important if Queen Mary had remained on the throne Ireland may have been protestant back then.
And some people said that white people has never been on the receiving end of colonization...
The first colony
Perhaps it’s the seeming inability of some white ppl to acknowledge colonialism in its various iterations that leads someone to make that comment. Just guessing.
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We’re safe.
I took the Keyboard away from my Dad.
Great voice man. For some reason, if I didn't see you I'd think it belonged to an older gent. Good work.
This is good as a starting point for studying the period. Very concise and precise and whets the appetite for more in-depth research of the period.
Tbh the English crowd had it as bad as the Irish crowd. And if you've seen Les miserables, in France,sure your man was doing 20 years for stealing a loaf of bread..
Maybe a bit more on the role of the Gaelic Lords loyal to London .. e.g. Thomond Clanricard and O'Malleys won the battle of Kinsale for the English .. it was a battle between 2 majority irish speaking armies
There is definitely a lot more to it. The videos are an introduction to the topic / brief overview. Hopefully a great jumping off point if folks want to learn more :)
Yes .. i understand .. and thanks for the hard work .. good job .. just emphasising a core issue to bear in mind for those who want to dive deeper
" it was a battle between 2 majority irish speaking armies" I wouldn't go that far, sources?
I was aware of thomands role but what role did the o malleys play in the battle of kinsale ? Thanks
@@michael-qg9buI'm not sure but I know Grace O'Malley offered her help to the queen of England in helping clear the land of laois and Offaly against the lawlors o'moores and o'dempsey
Its was rory o'moore whonwasthe biggest thorn in the side of the tudors
Sooo that's what he looks like
Enjoyed it.
This is a very well made video but the comment about the more powerful English is not very accurate at this time and yes England was powerful but Ireland with Hugh O'Neill waged a 9 Year War and defeated the English at every turn until lord mountjoy came the English thought the Irish where still in the stone age. Mountjoy put an end to that mindset but he was still in a very difficult situation and the fact before the battle of Kinsale queen Elizabeth died, mountjoy kept this to himself until after the battle but even mountjoy knew how powerful the Irish have gotten with training from the Spanish and mercenaries from Scotland from the king of Scotland himself and knew over the years of war how organized the Irish was. But I would love to see a video delving deeper into the Nine Year's War in Ireland after all history could've gone anyway at the battle of Kinsale.
I was born into a Celtic Nationalist family, and I'll admit, England certainly was more powerful. There was too much in-fighting in Ireland, like the Clan system in Scotland, it was becoming outdated and The Tudors brought the Irish into the Early-Modern Period. Ireland wasn't even united at this stage when they otherwise would have continued their game of thrones, plus, the video does mention the Irish military strength. I think it's fair, and I'm sure we would all love some more Irish history.
No it's completely accurate. England was the much stronger Kingdom.
England had better manufacturing and supply chains for their weapons. That's it. The Irish in the 9 years war crushed the English at every turn except at Kinsale and the lack of Irish arms, ammo manufacturing and support from the Anglo Normans in the south of the country to multiplied the effects of the defeat.
History marche guy
HM has been a big supporter as well :)
What do I think of the Tudor conquest of Ireland .... just love it ... every country should have one.
Holy shit that's what you look like...pretty much exactly what I figured except younger and thinner
Cheers, the camera filter is clearly working!
Damn, where did I hearcthat voice.... History Marche?
Yes, I recorded quite a few VOs for HM's channel :)
The feckin Tudors
There doesn't seem to be a distinct moral highground held by either the Tudors or the Irish ascendancy in their personal attributes. But the imposition of a new religion by force certainly appears to be a lawless act, especially where the conversion of King Henry VIII was clearly an act of schism based on worldy political expedience, hence clearly Satanic in nature. And the fact that this was of greater significance to the Anglo-Irish than their blood relationship with England shows how dire this event must have appeared to them. And the later genocidal and decidedly un-Christian strategies of power pursued by the witch-queen and her star chamber were evidence of the fall of the English monarchy into spiritual darkness, no doubt aided and abetted by the likes of John Dee and the Kabbalists.
@MichaelK.-x12qk, The money lenders/investors in war for profit were the "key" then. As they are, only much more so, now. It is a longer, larger, factor than most people realize. What is happening today in Palestine and Ukraine is the same story--only now more murky-- because of capture of the narrative by the body supposed to expose the truth. Everything people think they know, or have been told, is a lie. One assumes you mean "Satanic" as a metaphor?
Not sure if I would agree with the Ulster plantations being described as "ambitious social engineering". I would be more inclined to use the more modern description of "Ethnic Cleansing".
Not what I thought he looked like lol. Such an odd voice
Cheers?
@@alexanderdoddy7590 that was meat as a compliment 👍
@@sampeeps3371 Ah, thanks :)
Ireland was Britain's first colony it was literally the blue print for the America's. The first British joint stock colony started in Ireland in 1568 headed by Warham St Leger and Richard Grenville in Cork, tracton and Kerricurrihy. The west countrymen got the idea to colonize the new world and the tactics used from their Irish colonies, they would export this idea around the world.
The Normans lost most of their territory and never conquered most of Munster, it was the Tudors who committed mass ethnic cleansing.
They are the same ethnicity.
@@wendyHewwell I think if you had made any kind of effort in understanding Irish history. Irish people are not the same race according to the english it was writing in British law in the act of union by George 3
And no mention of the Elizabethan genocide
4:19 + 2x speed
…& that’s why we hate them.
Little Ireland gave the mighty English great fights ten years in Ulster kept the Irish back from a road even beating the English at hello fort but Irish drove nine out of ten settlers out of Ireland.byt Cromwell planted more and more was killed by Irish but Cromwell did not get his own way many of his troops who killed children where killed at Limerick on and cashek in fact he could have been beaten if Irish had more men but we are free of that Germanic shit now
cope you got decimated so hard by Cromwell that you still whine about it till this day, he beat you so hard he could do anything he wanted and so he enslaved many irish and sent them to the Caribbean.
After Hastings 1066 the Saxons were Nearly wiped out most British in Britain are seeds of Norman's
You do relise the tudors were welsh and Cromwell was welsh hes parents were from Glamorgan
I despise cromwell
He was welsh hes parents were from Glamorgan
@@richardjohnston3359 That Makes His Irish Genocide A Thousand Times more Vile
U should do way less face shots it gets annoying WW2 channel does it good only shows face when he has a point to make
no, he’s hot