I can't wait for Gen 3. I'm prepared to spend up to $50,000 to get my first EV. I'm committed that my current car is my last gasoline vehicle. This is the future and there are millions who think like me.
I don't think you're a fanboy. A fanboy would idealize things and pretend the car is perfect (or nearly perfect). You pointed out every little drawback in the car and still managed to show you like the car very much. You made passionate but fairly balance analysis of the car. I hope you keep the car with the new battery for at least 200k Km and give us a review of battery life after that.
+Marcelo Pacheco Very good observation, Marcelo. I think Björn's assessment of the car was brutally honest, and loving. He's probably one of the worst reviewers I've ever seen, but that in itself adds to the charm here :-)
+Bjørn Nyland I'll get 85D (90D with range upgrade). I think it will be great as a daily driver, and I don't need the power of P85D. I live in Chicago; I don't see a lot of Teslas here yet. Norway looks nice. I've been only to Sweden. I'll visit Norway some time later.
It's very nice that you know what you are talking about.. Many people get confused when reviewing something that is a combination of software and hardware. Almost everything nowadays has a bit of software in it and it's very nice that you not only know the difference you also make it clear to who is watching. Great vid as always.
Bjorn, I really enjoy your videos. To see a Asian man speaking great English, living in Norway, reviewing the Tesla with an inviting nature is the perfect statement on what this movement is about....WELL DONE ( I got mine 11/12/13)
Generally yes I do not drive a lot like you but I did drive the tesla more in a year than I normally do! I too have had 5ers ... 7 different ones euro delivery 4x Was BMW expert it was a tuff break If they could hire BMW to do the interior it would be the perfect car
Although this review appeared extemporaneous, what did the trick for Bjorn was the experience. He really has being into his Model S. The review is honest and very objective. Initially, I was wondering if I could watch it all, but I ended up enjoying the whole 57+min video. I can foresee ICE cars being limited to the history books and few niche usages between 50 and 70 years from now. The future is already here. Long live Musk! Long live Tesla! Long live EV!
Thank you very much in taking the time to let us know the details from an actual owner. Keep up the great work outstanding work. I would never know all these details unless I had it for a long period of time.
"Fossil cars" : Pretty appropriate term :) We shouldn't call them ICE but fossil cars (as they should be exctinct) As always, pretty instructive. Thanks for the video!
Fossils are in the ground and dead. Sorry, but without HUGE government subsidy and ICE taxation, so are electric cars. ICE cars stand on their own merits and, therefore, aren't going ANYWHERE. Except maybe down the road while you're still on your 2nd supercharger visit...
This is so valuable. I have been looking for a review by an owner who has kept the car for a while. Great job. My main concern would be battery degradation over time. Thank you for doing this!
Hey Biorn, well done video again! Just found out that I got my car ON THE EXACT SAME date (22. Nov. 2013)!!! Very happy with the car and Tesla's service too. Next time you go to Switzerland, please let me know! Cheers Heinz
Looks like :-) You really did not observe degradation? Also I was surprised by your range indications. But this may be related to speed limits. In an other video i saw some 90 km/h limits on highways. What is the normal limit on your highways? In CH i can bearly get to a 380km range but we are mostly driving at 120km/h on highways. Which makes a BIG difference in range...
I highly recommend a trip to Spain. My wife and I just got back from a vacation where we went biking around the countryside in southern Spain. It was nice and warm and we got to experience a second autumn as the trees changed colors. We did rent a VW golf diesel for a few days and it was nice car for traveling on the one lane mountain roads(watch out for oncomming traffic), but the throttle response was very irregular and slow. After driving through areas with 90% round-a-bouts now that I am back in the states with 90% stop lights I find them very maddening.
Bjørn Nyland There isn't any Tesla chargers in Spain or Portugal (actually there is one that I know of in Girona north of Barcelona - just south of the french border). Don't know why :( It looks like they plan to build them though.
Brilliant video review! These little tips and pieces of information are what design engineers and potential customers really want to know about. Thanks for taking the time to do this :)
Hi Bjorn, nice wrap up! Thanks for showing to the masses how usable the Model S is as an actual electric car. I wanted to point out that, regarding winter range reduction, it has more to do with increased air resistance than with energy required to heat up the battery. The colder the air, the higher its density, so it takes more energy to drive through it. Actually the battery heats itself since it is not 100 percent efficient, however in the Model S it has a big exposed area which is potentially cooled down by the airflow under the car (as opposed to my Roadster, which is more isolated)
Hi Bjorn, we have test driven the Model S on two occasions ,im pleased to say I am going ahead & ordering Today. We live near a Supercharger just west of London which means the Tesla is a no brainer for us. Driving a lovely car & not paying for fuel is going to be so refreshing. We will also be doing European trips utilising the Supercharger Network so can get to the South of France & back without paying for fuel. The future's bright, The future's Tesla
Bjørn Nyland S85, White, Pano Roof, Tech Pack, Dual Chargers. 19" wheels & regular interior as i liked the blend of fabric & Leather plus our cream leather seats get trashed in our car at present. We are going skiing in Trysil in April, maybe you could borrow me your Tesla for the Roadtrip ;-)
Great Video Bjorn and you have really put my mind at rest about the big European trips. I thought I wouldn't be able to do them anymore. My excuses for not doing it are fast disappearing. I guess I best take the leap then!
Again a really great and informative video, Björn! Thank you! Unfortunately I'm still waiting for the right numbers in lottery so that I can afford my own Tesla... :)
Nice video, thank you, very useful for me as a prospective buyer of a Tesla, they do look awesome and have probably improved via software updates since your video was posted. Enjoy your Tesla, it will be my next car for sure (I currently have a BMW like you used to) Cheers
I think you meant Relay/Solenoid regarding the "switch/contactor" you referred to. These are basically mechanical switches operated by magnetic coil. The problem here being that they have a "service life" of a couple of thousand cycles. But those can vary greatly depending on the amount of current that is being switched. It is a common failure, mostly because of the sparking destroying the contacts, not neccesarily because it was too light. Petrol or Diesel cars are a pain to maintain. 20k km for changing oil, 120k km for changing the timing belt. 200k km for changing the clutch. 300k km for changing the gearbox. And there there is the sheer amount of oil, fuel and air filters. Cooling fluids, alternators, starter motors... And they they needed to meet emission norms, and we got catalytic converters, EGR valves, turbo's, compressors, start stop. It didn't get any better. My gearbox (Peugeot 206 HDI) is like rowing a crowbar through a bucket of screws, it's horrible.
I recall that in Tesla this contactor is almost always engaged unless car goes into emergency mode for any reason (failiure, crash, deep discarge, etc.). It must be engaged to provide power to DC-DC converter that is always on. So no sparking occuring during normal use. Ah, and contactor is just a big relay and there are two separate ones made by Tyco in battery pack.
A great review. Cleared the reservations of many people. One thing I wanna add is that tesla should have also plugs to plug in at the front of the cars. It's annoying always to reverse and charge the cars. It shall not be too hard to do so. Liked the review as it was not like a pro tesla one and was a impartial review. World needs electric cars. It saves alot as no mobil oil, and dozens of other wear and tears. And it's true after this car no one would need to go back to fossil cars... Range, charging time, these 2 are the issues to be solved. If these are solved long journey would not be a problem at all. Great car.
A really good long term review - as a potential customer I see all the bad and good things about the car that I have researched myself. Being used to German cars I currently feel the build is the biggest downside for me.
Wow! Great video, thank you for sharing. I do believe through video reviews like these and Tesla's engineering team, they will become the ultimate vehicle. Keep up the good work Bjorn Nyland. Thanks again!
Very helpful review on one of the first cars after some serious driving! I am looking at getting a used one and this boosted my confidence tremendously!
Congratulations for the video. I really enjoyed because you showed things you didn't like that you learnet about through your own experience! Model S is my dream car. So far i don't earn enough to even evaluate the possibility of buying one, but one day… one day :D
Hi Bjørn, just to confirm with you the question that you asked, the switchgear in the new model s is also from Mercedes, in fact, it's the same gear shifter as the one in the new s class! Hope this info confirms your questions!
bjorn, i love your videos; you are a great ambassador for tesla and nimber, but i think most especially, for norway. I wish I could live there with my family, great sceneries; awesome for people who like to take long drives, like me and my wifie.
im so glad you're norwegian... When you dont know a word in english, I understand it anyway when you say it in norwegian, since im swedish! Great video! :D
Watched the whole thing. Very insightful. Can't wait to see what they'll be like once i can afford to get one! (10-20 years) what do you think? will they fly ?
My Chevy Impala LTZ has all those amenities (Huge trunk, Bose radio, fold down heated, leather seats, sun roof, 305 HP V6, etc.) at about 1/5 th. the price (admittedly purchased used, 1 year old at $17,800.00). That will buy a bunch of petrol. I'm retired and am a low mileage driver also. So it depends on your life status for the period in which you purchase the car. The Impala just may last the rest of my "driving" life, hopefully the price of petrol will stay low 'til I move on. Personally I like the fact that we have viable electric car development in progress. I'd love to have a small second car as an electric for neighborhood runs. Unfortunately the prices on those are "Too Proud" and of course the GREEDY insurance cos would want their cruel rake to cover it.
It's interesting, I'm watching your video right now and I got to the part where you are talking about the your navigation system and I found it interesting because I am always wishing I had Tesla's navigation. I'm always fighting with my navigation system and constantly comparing it to yours. Pretty funny. I guess this is a situation of, the grass is always greener on the other side. lol I still wish I had your navigation. :)
The Tesla nav has a lot of advantages. For example, I like the map in the big screen so I get an overview all the time. And it's easy to search for names there. But the TomTom offers other features not implemented in the Tesla nav yet. Such as speed camera warning, speed limit, navigate to any point on the map, navigate via a waypoint, etc.
Bjørn Nyland Yeah, that TomTom looks pretty cool but that tiny display would drive me crazy. I can't tell you how nice it would be to have the speed limit feature on my navi over here. I've been on highways for more than 40 miles before I've seen a speed posted. I remember seeing in a review about how the i3 had that feature on its navi but when I test drove the car over here in Japan the navi didn't have it.
Once again, great and interesting video. Would love to hear your rant on hydrogen sometime! I really don't see how it will work when electricity is already here, readily available, much more efficient. Also hydrogen is currently mainly sourced from OIL and hydrolysis is so inefficient! However if they work out something totally clean, cheap and everything may it win. BUT I doubt it. Hydrogen is our future! YEAH RIGHT! (Yeah right is an advertisement for a beer company in New Zealand, they put any stupid statement followed by Yeah Right, and everyone now just uses it.)
Sounds quite plausible with regards to the rain vs temperature. Sailplanes virtually drop out of the sky when they go through rain compared to normal flight. So it hampers your aerodynamic performance a lot. Which especially will affect your range in a aero slippery car like the Tesla S.
I think Tesla Motors are willing to improve and change things, and information provided is valuable. Just not sure if they are watching videos here, or its better to send them a link with a review. Thanks for a pleasant to watch video.
Hey man, great video. It is very informative. I have a question if you dont mind.( i might missed it in the video) I wanted to purchase the model s for a bit now, but still very concerned about the degradation of the battery. Have you suffered any battery problem? Is the range of the battery decreasing over time? How soon do you expect that you might need to replace the battery? Thanks in advance.
I cannot afford a Tesla but in time the prices will come down on the second hand market and perhaps I'll get it then. I do about 40k km per year which is quite a lot but still less than half of what Bjørn is making. Still ... I have an LPG Opel Meriva which is quite a reasonable car considering the costs and yet my costs are about 3000€ per year for fueling and servicing. It makes my head spin. My previous car was Ford Focus 2.0 which was around 5k € per year in fuel costs and maintenance. Crazy!! If they put up a Supercharger anywhere along my daily commute I'll be hard pressed to ignore all the potential savings.
Your 40K will become 60 or 100K! Universally, Tesla drivers drive more for the enjoyment. In most countries, quick savings is not possible (car taxes are not as high, so tax-free doesn't mean as much) ; the car might break even over 8 yrs or so. So people are paying a great deal for the 'Tesla Experience'.
How long is your commute? It'd have to be 160+ miles round trip for you to need Superchargers along it. Most of your charging can be done at work or at home anyway, so for the most part, you don't need superchargers.
Bjørn Nyland Can you make a second year review? I know it's only October but I really enjoyed your video, and I have a following question for you. How does the battery hold-up? You know batteries deteriorate over time, and I'm wondering how does this affect your driving range?
Great video as always Bjørn! Some things you did not mention in this video that you maybe can comment on is the build quality. Is the stitching on the seats even and straight? Does the panels inside and outside the car have good overlap or joint without huge or uneven gaps between them? There are a lot of plastic parts inside and outside of the car, does they feel like good quality? Since you have had a German built car before (BWM) you probably know what I am thinking about here. I have heard some reporters said that they think some of the plastic parts feels "cheap". Have you ever had any "squawky" noises when the car is cold (from plastic panels rubbing together)? Or maybe you always come in to a preheated car and therefore never experienced it? Another question: are there lots of extra accessories you can buy for the car that are not made by Tesla, but from other manufactures and are made for the Model S car? Things like a big box to put in the centre console, extra lights in the rear. What about exterior trims from other than Tesla?
The build quality is not on the same level as the BMW. Panels, edges and gaps are not 100 % aligned. It's common on Model S unfortunately. For me it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't leak water. I had some issues with rattling noise from the interior. Some of it was fixed but there's still some noise I need them to fix. I don't have any accessories except for the sun shade.
Comment about your remarks that it is a big car. no doubt it is, but for comparison: in length it is between the length of a Mercedes E class (about 6 inches longer) but shorter than an S class (nearly 10 inches longer than the Tesla model S). I think its width is the most unusual and challenging exterior dimension. The Model S is wider than most other cars. It is 6 inches wider than an MB E class and even about 2 inches wider than an S class. It is wider than a BMW 7 series. But it is a bit narrower than a Bentley and about the same as an Audi A8. The A8 is about 11 inches longer than an S, so the A8 really is a very large car. The Model S has been criticized by quite a few people for its limited headroom, especially in the rear, but I think that is a function of the aerodynamic shape. It might be less efficient to operate if the cabin were taller and had more headroom. these are architectural trade-offs with battery size and range. (The widere and longer the car, the larger the battery can be and so on.)
The headroom would be a lot better if there was an estate/station wagon Tesla. I know it's not a typical American car. But at least in Norway they are very popular because they can carry a lot of luggage. It also gives more flexibility in regards of panorama roof (just like on the BMW E61).
Great video - I'm a follower from the very beginning :) PS is it correct to assume that you are fan of TV series "The Wire" or it's just coincidence? ;) ("Shieeeeet :))
Hi Bjorn, great video with tons of information on how the tesla is performing over a Year and milage period. I work in a sales environment and when people comment on a purchase experience its the real thing. I will in the future, when the money is there )), buy a tesla, maybe the model 3 suits me more, Tesla is a engeneers compagny and their products are miles ahead and will be so in the future. Just a question, Daimler sold their 9% stake in tesla and switched on toyota,, together they will build electric cars it seems. I think tesla could rent out the superchargers to other manifactures. cheers michel/belgium
Tesla could rent out the superchargers. But if they do, they should have enough capacity to support other cars. If not then I bet the existing Tesla owners will be protesting when the queues build up on the superchargers.
Love your reviews!! Most detailed reviews out there by far. I am in the process of building my car and I am stuck on deciding between a 2 options. Air suspension vs coil springs and Pano roof or not. I wonder if you think the coil ride is bouncy or firmer as other reviewers say. One reviewer said the car was even quieter with air sus. Your thoughts? Also.. You say you would order the pano roof again but in another video review you say that you leave the back foam insulation piece covering rear portion of the pano year round. That doesn't seem very practical or pretty to look at. I live in south Florida (the sunshine state) where it is HOT and super sunny. You input would be most valuable. Thank you!!! Andrew
I have never tried coil spring on a Tesla and can therefore not make any recommendations. Regarding panorama, there's a second video where I use the panorama sunshade to improve the looks a lot. It's a matter of taste. Panorama could be useful if you like to open it up on sunny days.
This Car is absolutely briliant ! finaly car that serves you and not vice versa. petrol cars are just greedy money guzzlers. of course it is still expensive for mass use.. but in 1990 computers were too... oil and petro - dollar oligarchy probably hate this and shiver to the core.. but the message is out now.. yes we can build electro cars with 700 horsepower that are usable and the rest of whats to come... no one would stop now or at least i hope so ! /MrJohnyMnemonic
You said the Subzero package didn't impress you, but now there are rumors that new vehicles produced this week with the subzero package will include a heated steering wheel. I think that makes the option a little more valuable.
after seeing what this car is capable of and the costs are so low is basically 90% of the charges are on superchargers that are free so I really have no desire to have a car that uses fossil fuel, and polluting the planet. The idea of Tesla have a car in a self-contained system is simply wonderful and is what we need, I see only advantages. today i saw that Tesla is building a 3 superchargers here in Portugal :) already this year
Adam Dorety When traveling in Norway, the charging breaks is needed for toilet, food, etc anyways. But as soon as we move in Sweden, Denmark, France, etc where the speed limits are 120 or higher, then it would make more sense to have a 120 kWh battery.
The concept of electric cars is great. Only thing to work is on making these batteries last longer and charge faster. People might say it is too expensive but you always need some people to jump to new stuff which eventually be the standard. maybe in 30 years we only driver electrics. Do realise that with electric cars you dont have any exhaust, moving engine parts. etc. This will be a huge hit to the car market.
Hi, thanks for another intuitive video ;-) The car being quite large, how is it to handle it in daily lifetime, i.e. over speed bumps, backing in to parking lots / parking houses, turning radious. Dose your wife drive it., what does she think about it?
I always use normal suspension height and I never have any problems over speed bumps. The car is quite large and wide so I have to avoid too tight parking spots. I always try to park a little away from the other cars either way. Because people usually don't care if they smash their crappy car's door on someone else's. My wife drove it a few times and she thinks it's great and smooth.
Dear Björn! Many thanks for your work on your Tesla-Blogging! Keep going like this! So, you drove about 90´000km in one Year. How often did you have serviced your car? And what was the overall costs?
I have serviced the car once at 97k km. They replaced all four brake disks + pads, replaced 1,5 l transmission oil, checked cooling fluids, replaced wiper blades and some other checks. All that for 3550 NOK or about 400 Euros. Overall cost after ~100k km is about 5000 NOK for tires (in addition to the service cost).
Hi Bjorn, what is your experience with rattle noises or these anoying noises you can hear in some cars whn you go over rough roads? i mean without an gasoline engine the interior should be less noisy and so you can hear normally more rattle noises or whatever when you switch off the radio. How is the build quality there compared to your BMW for example? greetings from a PASSAT (CC) Driver from Stuttgart / Germany
I have had some issues with rattle noise. Some of the noise was fixed, but I still have some rattle noise coming from the rear somewhere. This only occurs when driving on rough tarmac. The build quality in the BMW is in general better. And I'm missing some of the ergonomics in the E61, such as the dim LED in the roof that lids up the interior at night.
Great video review and overall all your videos. Can you calculate roughly how much you saved during this 1 year period with Tesla, when not driving your previous BMW? I am interested when buying Tesla actually pays off (including the price of Tesla car into expenses) - is it paid off already after 1 year or you can predict when it will happen?
Thank you for another great movie! How far have wifey progressed on her driving license? My wife got her Swedish driving license this week but now she says she will not drive for 2 years because of the "trial period" of 2 years...
Great video! Thanks for all your insights. If You want to go to some realy exotic place, try Poland! And it's not that far away ;) I've checked and the Tesla website shows, that some Superchargers should appear here this year (2015).
Great video. Thanks for taking the time! I have a question you might have already answered: Have you done a "cost" analysis of running the air conditioning?
20:00 so far : Bigger sunshade mirror & LED lighting Huge car (maybe with better battery tech we can shrunk it a bit, but still, I'd imagine a huge cargo bay is better). Flush rear seat when folded to the floor Cargo hook strap point Additional solar panel on the roof (instead of panorama glass), front hood as well for additional electric power source. 12VDC plug @ cargo bay Brighter cargo LED Brighter signal lights (snow, dirt, fog, etc. problems). Bigger glove box Extra door stowage place Better navigation computer (distance calculator would be very useful for predicting battery capacity, as well as traffic infos)
I just want to add a few thoughts about the fossil-fuel car vs EV issue. Due to the higher emissions-norms, manufacturer's getting a hard time to cut down those deciliters from the consumption while they have to keep, or even increase performance. Mainly in Europe this is about to be a big problem in the future. The tendency is clear. Fossil-cars are getting more complex, and are used on the edge. They barely offer cars without a turbo nowadays. Horsepower/ccm is getting higher and higher. You can get a Ford Mondeo, with 1 liter engine that can 125 hp. I mean, come on! This down-sizing is really bad for the reliability of the engine. Most of these probably won't make high amount of running performance. It's starting to not worth to put more effort making even more unreliable fossil cars. We can't take big leaps from here to make this technology better. So engineers supposed to work on alternative ways like EVs and how to store energy even more efficiently.
Small engines with turbos also introduces turbo lag compared to naturally aspirated engines. Tesla owners are so spoiled there :P I remember watching a Top Gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson complains about a turbo engine with the lag. EVs must be heaven for him then.
Bjørn Nyland Yes. Although there have been improvements on the turbo lag issue in the last few years, but my statements on reliability applies. And ye, a Model S would be a heaven for Jeremy, if he did'nt act like a child and refused to test it...
Great video Bjørn Nyland! Thanks so much, watched every second and learned quite a bit. I ordered my Tesla just a couple of weeks ago (black with tan interior so now I'm slightly worried about seat staining from blue jeans!) and am looking forward to it's delivery. My only question to ask is whether you have ever experienced a busy supercharger station where you have had to wait before going on charge and if charging bays are generally available and not taken by random cars. Also, are people polite and don't just leave their tesla there for hours abusing the privilege? I am in Australia and as of today there is only 2 superchargers across the whole continent so interested to hear about the experience! Thanks and keep it up! *subscribes*
Nah, I don't think so. I have already posted this video on the Tesla forum. Most serious owners know that the car, just like any other car brand, will have flaws.
Thank you so much for sharing.I will definately go into a deeper investigation of the car.Have subscribed, so am looking foreward to year 2 review.Dont think the referral system Works in Denmark, but thanks anyhow.
Well - I do not know if it will - but I have just begun looking into the Whole "purchaseing a Tesla", and a discount is a discount, so naturally I would go for that, but I still have to go to my first test-drive (is ordered) and I then will ask, so I do not know if it even exists ?! I will find out and let you know. And thanks Again for a TON of good stuf in your videos - am through some of them, and they really are great - keep on the good Work.
Hello Bjorn, can you please explain, why you think that the best intersection between driving speed and loading time (loading at Tesla SC) would be reachable with the driving speed of 160 km/h. I guess, the consumption of electricity will be very high at this speed. By the way, your German is very very good. I couldn't identify any accent, when you said the german word "Schmutz! ;-) Very fine, I love it!
I have done 120-140 km/h before, and including charging time it averaged about 85 km/h. Another Model S owner drove at 160 km/h and averaged 100 km/h including charging time. Finding the fastest traveling time is a very complex calculation that is hard or impossible to simulate. Not only does it depend on topology, but also on temperature, weather and load in the car. However, the SC is so fast that driving fast will pay off timewise. But when going above 160 km/h, the consumption goes up quite a bit. It also has to do with more heat generated from the battery and motor.
Bjørn Nyland Wow, you're very fast, Bjorn. Thanks for your quick answer. I am curious about the experiences, I'll do in the next years with our new, two weeks old Model S. Your videos have been a great help for our buying decision.
***** It doesn't matter, how you use it. "Schmutz" is a german word and the Yiddish vocabulary is based on the german language as you can read here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language
Its possible some of these issues were addressed in newer models since you have a older model. For example I am pretty sure they adjusted the outside lights.
Hi Bjørn, are you planning to repeat the trip to the North Cape in the future with all those new superchargers? It might shorten the trip by quite some time.
It would be interesting to do another trip. Unfortunately, North Cape doesn't offer much interesting destinations on the way. And it's a long way there and we have so many other plans (for example Model S road trip through USA).
Bjørn Nyland How are you planning on doing a trip in the USA? Can you ship your car here? I have wondered how to do exactly the same other way around after getting delivery of my MS.. meaning doing a trip in Europe..
Oh, and speaking of dimensions, I worry a bit about ground clearance. Some people have mentioned that the Tesla Model S is quite low to the ground, and there was a change (I think) in the minimum height setting with the air suspension because of some accidents in which cars struck objects in or on the road. But i have not yet been able to find ground clearance figures for the Mercedes Benz sedans or for the Audi A8, so I do not have a feel for how much the Tesla may or may not be unusual in this regard.
Hi Bjorn, what about the tires? How long did the last? considering the heavy torque in the rear wheels at least the tire life should be shorter.... Congratulation about your "tutorials"!
Bjørn Nyland one important information is still missing: how many km you drove with summer tires? Probably in the D the the duration will be more balanced between front and rear.
I like Tesla but I think that NOW there are still many compromises to deal with. The range, the charging time, ecc... However, EVEN IF you try to imagine that these problems doesn't exist, I don't get the convenience of the car. Is still expensive (compared to the same pricerange cars it's not on par with interior quality, design, luxury) and the fact that you don't pay for gas and the maintenace is lower vanishes when you think that you'll have to replace that expensive battery. So, if I didn'get something wrong, it's a lie that one can do big saves because he hasn't to pay for gas. What do you think Bjorn?
I can't wait for Gen 3. I'm prepared to spend up to $50,000 to get my first EV. I'm committed that my current car is my last gasoline vehicle. This is the future and there are millions who think like me.
Yeah, EV is the future because electricity is found everywhere.
Do you now where the electricity come from in your house ?? Not from everywhere.
welniasty25 It comes from clean hydroelectric power plants.
Edward Weagle YES BRO i support this too =)
I don't think you're a fanboy. A fanboy would idealize things and pretend the car is perfect (or nearly perfect). You pointed out every little drawback in the car and still managed to show you like the car very much. You made passionate but fairly balance analysis of the car.
I hope you keep the car with the new battery for at least 200k Km and give us a review of battery life after that.
+Marcelo Pacheco Very good observation, Marcelo. I think Björn's assessment of the car was brutally honest, and loving. He's probably one of the worst reviewers I've ever seen, but that in itself adds to the charm here :-)
"It's always good to have rubber protection..." Good job, Bjørn!
Oh, yeah! :P
Bjørn Nyland Great video, though! You're doing a great job at explaining the good parts and the downsides of the Tesla. :)
A great detailed review. Way to go, Bjørn! I've been a skeptic, but your reviews have given me some confidence about Tesla. I will get one. :-)
+Bryce Lee Awesome :) What model will you go for?
+Bjørn Nyland I'll get 85D (90D with range upgrade). I think it will be great as a daily driver, and I don't need the power of P85D. I live in Chicago; I don't see a lot of Teslas here yet.
Norway looks nice. I've been only to Sweden. I'll visit Norway some time later.
Bryce Lee
Awesome :)
+Bryce Lee By the way, you can get $1000 discount by using my referral link: ts.la/bjrn3169
+Bjørn Nyland Yes, I'll use that referral link when I order my car this winter. Thanks!!
So many easy to solve but important issues. Someone at tesla should definitely watch this video.
I think they do.
Wow! 1 year 90k km... Bjorn, you spend your life in your car! You must absolutely love it! :)
It's very nice that you know what you are talking about.. Many people get confused when reviewing something that is a combination of software and hardware. Almost everything nowadays has a bit of software in it and it's very nice that you not only know the difference you also make it clear to who is watching. Great vid as always.
"The car is running almost on air and love."
Aah Bjorn. I love you.
Oh, yeah!
At 1st I was going to comment on the length of the video but great review. Great detail! Very impressed. Greetings from America.
+TELESCOPE Thank you for watching :)
Bjorn, I really enjoy your videos. To see a Asian man speaking great English, living in Norway, reviewing the Tesla with an inviting nature is the perfect statement on what this movement is about....WELL DONE ( I got mine 11/12/13)
Awesome! :D Is your Tesla working ok?
Generally yes I do not drive a lot like you but I did drive the tesla more in a year than I normally do!
I too have had 5ers ... 7 different ones euro delivery 4x
Was BMW expert it was a tuff break
If they could hire BMW to do the interior it would be the perfect car
Had 2x trouble with wipers left in auto and breaking linkage in frozen temps
Ps Spain rocks
Was there for 2 weeks on holiday affordable historic and cultural. Ole'
Ps Spain rocks
Was there for 2 weeks on holiday affordable historic and cultural. Ole'
Although this review appeared extemporaneous, what did the trick for Bjorn was the experience. He really has being into his Model S. The review is honest and very objective. Initially, I was wondering if I could watch it all, but I ended up enjoying the whole 57+min video. I can foresee ICE cars being limited to the history books and few niche usages between 50 and 70 years from now. The future is already here. Long live Musk! Long live Tesla! Long live EV!
TheStepjan Kudos to you and all the other people who actually watched the whole thing. Maybe I'll do another one at 200k km :)
Bjørn Nyland I've subscribed your channel and I can't wait for the 200k video. Thanks.
Thank you very much in taking the time to let us know the details from an actual owner. Keep up the great work outstanding work. I would never know all these details unless I had it for a long period of time.
Yes, a very long video, but you answered all of my questions I had regarding long term ownership. Thanks for the video sir!
"Fossil cars" : Pretty appropriate term :)
We shouldn't call them ICE but fossil cars (as they should be exctinct)
As always, pretty instructive. Thanks for the video!
Dgboss78 Thanks for watching :) Yes, Tesla owners in Norway use the term "fossil cars" and "fossil" (the driver) a lot :P
Fossils are in the ground and dead. Sorry, but without HUGE government subsidy and ICE taxation, so are electric cars.
ICE cars stand on their own merits and, therefore, aren't going ANYWHERE. Except maybe down the road while you're still on your 2nd supercharger visit...
This is so valuable. I have been looking for a review by an owner who has kept the car for a while. Great job. My main concern would be battery degradation over time. Thank you for doing this!
Hey Biorn, well done video again! Just found out that I got my car ON THE EXACT SAME date (22. Nov. 2013)!!! Very happy with the car and Tesla's service too.
Next time you go to Switzerland, please let me know!
Cheers
Heinz
Wow, awesome! We have twin cars then :)
Looks like :-) You really did not observe degradation?
Also I was surprised by your range indications. But this may be related to speed limits. In an other video i saw some 90 km/h limits on highways. What is the normal limit on your highways? In CH i can bearly get to a 380km range but we are mostly driving at 120km/h on highways. Which makes a BIG difference in range...
Heinz Ruffieux The speed limits in 95 % of the Norwegian roads are 60-80 km/h.
Your accent and choice of words takes me back to my college years in computer science all over again.
I highly recommend a trip to Spain. My wife and I just got back from a vacation where we went biking around the countryside in southern Spain. It was nice and warm and we got to experience a second autumn as the trees changed colors. We did rent a VW golf diesel for a few days and it was nice car for traveling on the one lane mountain roads(watch out for oncomming traffic), but the throttle response was very irregular and slow. After driving through areas with 90% round-a-bouts now that I am back in the states with 90% stop lights I find them very maddening.
We will go to Spain next year :)
Bjørn Nyland There isn't any Tesla chargers in Spain or Portugal (actually there is one that I know of in Girona north of Barcelona - just south of the french border). Don't know why :( It looks like they plan to build them though.
Brilliant video review! These little tips and pieces of information are what design engineers and potential customers really want to know about. Thanks for taking the time to do this :)
Hi Bjorn, nice wrap up! Thanks for showing to the masses how usable the Model S is as an actual electric car. I wanted to point out that, regarding winter range reduction, it has more to do with increased air resistance than with energy required to heat up the battery. The colder the air, the higher its density, so it takes more energy to drive through it. Actually the battery heats itself since it is not 100 percent efficient, however in the Model S it has a big exposed area which is potentially cooled down by the airflow under the car (as opposed to my Roadster, which is more isolated)
Hi Bjorn, we have test driven the Model S on two occasions ,im pleased to say I am going ahead & ordering Today. We live near a Supercharger just west of London which means the Tesla is a no brainer for us. Driving a lovely car & not paying for fuel is going to be so refreshing. We will also be doing European trips utilising the Supercharger Network so can get to the South of France & back without paying for fuel. The future's bright, The future's Tesla
Awesome! What options did you get?
Bjørn Nyland S85, White, Pano Roof, Tech Pack, Dual Chargers. 19" wheels & regular interior as i liked the blend of fabric & Leather plus our cream leather seats get trashed in our car at present. We are going skiing in Trysil in April, maybe you could borrow me your Tesla for the Roadtrip ;-)
Great Video Bjorn and you have really put my mind at rest about the big European trips. I thought I wouldn't be able to do them anymore. My excuses for not doing it are fast disappearing. I guess I best take the leap then!
+Johnny Lyle Thanks for the feedback :)
Again a really great and informative video, Björn! Thank you! Unfortunately I'm still waiting for the right numbers in lottery so that I can afford my own Tesla... :)
Nice video, thank you, very useful for me as a prospective buyer of a Tesla, they do look awesome and have probably improved via software updates since your video was posted.
Enjoy your Tesla, it will be my next car for sure (I currently have a BMW like you used to)
Cheers
I think you meant Relay/Solenoid regarding the "switch/contactor" you referred to. These are basically mechanical switches operated by magnetic coil. The problem here being that they have a "service life" of a couple of thousand cycles. But those can vary greatly depending on the amount of current that is being switched.
It is a common failure, mostly because of the sparking destroying the contacts, not neccesarily because it was too light.
Petrol or Diesel cars are a pain to maintain. 20k km for changing oil, 120k km for changing the timing belt. 200k km for changing the clutch. 300k km for changing the gearbox. And there there is the sheer amount of oil, fuel and air filters. Cooling fluids, alternators, starter motors...
And they they needed to meet emission norms, and we got catalytic converters, EGR valves, turbo's, compressors, start stop. It didn't get any better.
My gearbox (Peugeot 206 HDI) is like rowing a crowbar through a bucket of screws, it's horrible.
I recall that in Tesla this contactor is almost always engaged unless car goes into emergency mode for any reason (failiure, crash, deep discarge, etc.). It must be engaged to provide power to DC-DC converter that is always on. So no sparking occuring during normal use. Ah, and contactor is just a big relay and there are two separate ones made by Tyco in battery pack.
mibars Ah, thanks for explaining that.
I was told that some of the earlier models had a weakness in the contactor. Tesla should probably (and hopefully) have improved this.
A great review. Cleared the reservations of many people. One thing I wanna add is that tesla should have also plugs to plug in at the front of the cars. It's annoying always to reverse and charge the cars. It shall not be too hard to do so. Liked the review as it was not like a pro tesla one and was a impartial review. World needs electric cars. It saves alot as no mobil oil, and dozens of other wear and tears. And it's true after this car no one would need to go back to fossil cars... Range, charging time, these 2 are the issues to be solved. If these are solved long journey would not be a problem at all. Great car.
A really good long term review - as a potential customer I see all the bad and good things about the car that I have researched myself. Being used to German cars I currently feel the build is the biggest downside for me.
Wow! Great video, thank you for sharing. I do believe through video reviews like these and Tesla's engineering team, they will become the ultimate vehicle. Keep up the good work Bjorn Nyland. Thanks again!
Very helpful review on one of the first cars after some serious driving! I am looking at getting a used one and this boosted my confidence tremendously!
The best review so far thank you for being honest
+Ghaith Mustafa Thank you for watching. There will be another review after 200k km.
You do a great job with these videos Bjorn!
Thank you for the feedback :)
6:00 lmao @ "It's always good to have rubber protection." Thumbs up.
Congratulations for the video. I really enjoyed because you showed things you didn't like that you learnet about through your own experience! Model S is my dream car. So far i don't earn enough to even evaluate the possibility of buying one, but one day… one day :D
Now that, in my view was an excellent review and I will make the Model x my next car. Thank you very much.
Hi Bjørn, just to confirm with you the question that you asked, the switchgear in the new model s is also from Mercedes, in fact, it's the same gear shifter as the one in the new s class! Hope this info confirms your questions!
Wow, the S-class. Not just from C- or E-class :)
Unfortunately, 1 and a half years later, the same one also got used on the new C class
Alan D-Khaw o
Good review, I think your criticisms and requests were well thought out.
Riley B Thanks for the feedback :)
Great review man! Your doing an amazing job
Great review, such a fun guy to watch and a wonderful insight into the model s. Thanks!
+Visan Georgian Thanks for the feedback :)
bjorn, i love your videos; you are a great ambassador for tesla and nimber, but i think most especially, for norway. I wish I could live there with my family, great sceneries; awesome for people who like to take long drives, like me and my wifie.
Thank you for the feedback :)
I mean driving in a tesla around norway or europe, that is what i want to do.
Can’t wait till you give the Model S Plaid and LR the TeslaBjorn experience! 😃😃👍🏾 BTW, glad that you have this car back for 2021!
Hi, every day you outshine your video and waiting fresh and new. Although I do not understand, but I know that the car has a future.
at 13:54 to 14:02 you sounded exactly like Heath doing the joker in batman.. had me crack up a little bit!
im so glad you're norwegian... When you dont know a word in english, I understand it anyway when you say it in norwegian, since im swedish! Great video! :D
Watched the whole thing. Very insightful. Can't wait to see what they'll be like once i can afford to get one! (10-20 years) what do you think? will they fly ?
Nice video! Please keep us posted about the motor drive unit. I hope they fixed it for the 2014 model S.
I will post a video after the fix.
i would love to have a HUD on the Model S, preferably the same as in the BMW's now a days :)
My previous car, the BMW 525d E61 had HUD. It's very nice and I'm missing it too.
My Chevy Impala LTZ has all those amenities (Huge trunk, Bose radio, fold down heated, leather seats, sun roof, 305 HP V6, etc.) at about 1/5 th. the price (admittedly purchased used, 1 year old at $17,800.00). That will buy a bunch of petrol. I'm retired and am a low mileage driver also. So it depends on your life status for the period in which you purchase the car. The Impala just may last the rest of my "driving" life, hopefully the price of petrol will stay low 'til I move on.
Personally I like the fact that we have viable electric car development in progress. I'd love to have a small second car as an electric for neighborhood runs. Unfortunately the prices on those are "Too Proud" and of course the GREEDY insurance cos would want their cruel rake to cover it.
It's interesting, I'm watching your video right now and I got to the part where you are talking about the your navigation system and I found it interesting because I am always wishing I had Tesla's navigation. I'm always fighting with my navigation system and constantly comparing it to yours. Pretty funny. I guess this is a situation of, the grass is always greener on the other side. lol I still wish I had your navigation. :)
The Tesla nav has a lot of advantages. For example, I like the map in the big screen so I get an overview all the time. And it's easy to search for names there. But the TomTom offers other features not implemented in the Tesla nav yet. Such as speed camera warning, speed limit, navigate to any point on the map, navigate via a waypoint, etc.
Bjørn Nyland Yeah, that TomTom looks pretty cool but that tiny display would drive me crazy. I can't tell you how nice it would be to have the speed limit feature on my navi over here. I've been on highways for more than 40 miles before I've seen a speed posted. I remember seeing in a review about how the i3 had that feature on its navi but when I test drove the car over here in Japan the navi didn't have it.
Once again, great and interesting video. Would love to hear your rant on hydrogen sometime!
I really don't see how it will work when electricity is already here, readily available, much more efficient. Also hydrogen is currently mainly sourced from OIL and hydrolysis is so inefficient!
However if they work out something totally clean, cheap and everything may it win. BUT I doubt it.
Hydrogen is our future! YEAH RIGHT! (Yeah right is an advertisement for a beer company in New Zealand, they put any stupid statement followed by Yeah Right, and everyone now just uses it.)
I haven't driven a Tesla, but I think I know what I'm missing, and I am SOOO jealous :-)
Sounds quite plausible with regards to the rain vs temperature. Sailplanes virtually drop out of the sky when they go through rain compared to normal flight. So it hampers your aerodynamic performance a lot. Which especially will affect your range in a aero slippery car like the Tesla S.
I think Tesla Motors are willing to improve and change things, and information provided is valuable. Just not sure if they are watching videos here, or its better to send them a link with a review.
Thanks for a pleasant to watch video.
Hey man, great video. It is very informative. I have a question if you dont mind.( i might missed it in the video) I wanted to purchase the model s for a bit now, but still very concerned about the degradation of the battery. Have you suffered any battery problem? Is the range of the battery decreasing over time? How soon do you expect that you might need to replace the battery? Thanks in advance.
Tesla Model S P85 battery degradation after 53k km: th-cam.com/video/2hbn2rRLn2Y/w-d-xo.html
thanks
Well if nothing else, you are very entertaining! lol Great review!
I cannot afford a Tesla but in time the prices will come down on the second hand market and perhaps I'll get it then. I do about 40k km per year which is quite a lot but still less than half of what Bjørn is making.
Still ... I have an LPG Opel Meriva which is quite a reasonable car considering the costs and yet my costs are about 3000€ per year for fueling and servicing. It makes my head spin. My previous car was Ford Focus 2.0 which was around 5k € per year in fuel costs and maintenance. Crazy!!
If they put up a Supercharger anywhere along my daily commute I'll be hard pressed to ignore all the potential savings.
Your 40K will become 60 or 100K! Universally, Tesla drivers drive more for the enjoyment. In most countries, quick savings is not possible (car taxes are not as high, so tax-free doesn't mean as much) ; the car might break even over 8 yrs or so. So people are paying a great deal for the 'Tesla Experience'.
How long is your commute? It'd have to be 160+ miles round trip for you to need Superchargers along it. Most of your charging can be done at work or at home anyway, so for the most part, you don't need superchargers.
Bjørn Nyland
Can you make a second year review?
I know it's only October but I really enjoyed your video, and I have a following question for you. How does the battery hold-up?
You know batteries deteriorate over time, and I'm wondering how does this affect your driving range?
+Povl Leckband I will make separate videos about that soon.
Great video as always Bjørn! Some things you did not mention in this video that you maybe can comment on is the build quality. Is the stitching on the seats even and straight? Does the panels inside and outside the car have good overlap or joint without huge or uneven gaps between them? There are a lot of plastic parts inside and outside of the car, does they feel like good quality? Since you have had a German built car before (BWM) you probably know what I am thinking about here. I have heard some reporters said that they think some of the plastic parts feels "cheap". Have you ever had any "squawky" noises when the car is cold (from plastic panels rubbing together)? Or maybe you always come in to a preheated car and therefore never experienced it?
Another question: are there lots of extra accessories you can buy for the car that are not made by Tesla, but from other manufactures and are made for the Model S car? Things like a big box to put in the centre console, extra lights in the rear. What about exterior trims from other than Tesla?
The build quality is not on the same level as the BMW. Panels, edges and gaps are not 100 % aligned. It's common on Model S unfortunately. For me it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't leak water. I had some issues with rattling noise from the interior. Some of it was fixed but there's still some noise I need them to fix.
I don't have any accessories except for the sun shade.
Comment about your remarks that it is a big car. no doubt it is, but for comparison: in length it is between the length of a Mercedes E class (about 6 inches longer) but shorter than an S class (nearly 10 inches longer than the Tesla model S). I think its width is the most unusual and challenging exterior dimension. The Model S is wider than most other cars. It is 6 inches wider than an MB E class and even about 2 inches wider than an S class. It is wider than a BMW 7 series. But it is a bit narrower than a Bentley and about the same as an Audi A8. The A8 is about 11 inches longer than an S, so the A8 really is a very large car.
The Model S has been criticized by quite a few people for its limited headroom, especially in the rear, but I think that is a function of the aerodynamic shape. It might be less efficient to operate if the cabin were taller and had more headroom. these are architectural trade-offs with battery size and range. (The widere and longer the car, the larger the battery can be and so on.)
The headroom would be a lot better if there was an estate/station wagon Tesla. I know it's not a typical American car. But at least in Norway they are very popular because they can carry a lot of luggage. It also gives more flexibility in regards of panorama roof (just like on the BMW E61).
Bjørn Nyland
There is a seven seate with Falcon Doors Bjorn, watch eh launch video. Might suit you better!
Great video - I'm a follower from the very beginning :) PS is it correct to assume that you are fan of TV series "The Wire" or it's just coincidence? ;) ("Shieeeeet :))
I haven't watched The Wire. I just like to say shieeeeet :P
great video, very informative! thank you for the time and effort
Hi Bjorn, great video with tons of information on how the tesla is performing over a Year and milage period. I work in a sales environment and when people comment on a purchase experience its the real thing. I will in the future, when the money is there )), buy a tesla, maybe the model 3 suits me more, Tesla is a engeneers compagny and their products are miles ahead and will be so in the future.
Just a question, Daimler sold their 9% stake in tesla and switched on toyota,, together they will build electric cars it seems. I think tesla could rent out the superchargers to other manifactures. cheers michel/belgium
Tesla could rent out the superchargers. But if they do, they should have enough capacity to support other cars. If not then I bet the existing Tesla owners will be protesting when the queues build up on the superchargers.
Its an awesome review, Tesla is my dream car but I wont have it till the Model3 is out. Thanks Bjorn!
Love your reviews!! Most detailed reviews out there by far. I am in the process of building my car and I am stuck on deciding between a 2 options. Air suspension vs coil springs and Pano roof or not. I wonder if you think the coil ride is bouncy or firmer as other reviewers say. One reviewer said the car was even quieter with air sus. Your thoughts? Also.. You say you would order the pano roof again but in another video review you say that you leave the back foam insulation piece covering rear portion of the pano year round. That doesn't seem very practical or pretty to look at. I live in south Florida (the sunshine state) where it is HOT and super sunny. You input would be most valuable. Thank you!!! Andrew
I have never tried coil spring on a Tesla and can therefore not make any recommendations. Regarding panorama, there's a second video where I use the panorama sunshade to improve the looks a lot. It's a matter of taste. Panorama could be useful if you like to open it up on sunny days.
Thanks for the review! I plan to get one within the next three to five years.
This Car is absolutely briliant ! finaly car that serves you and not vice versa. petrol cars are just greedy money guzzlers.
of course it is still expensive for mass use.. but in 1990 computers were too...
oil and petro - dollar oligarchy probably hate this and shiver to the core.. but the message is out now.. yes we can build electro cars with 700 horsepower that are usable and the rest of whats to come... no one would stop now or at least i hope so !
/MrJohnyMnemonic
You said the Subzero package didn't impress you, but now there are rumors that new vehicles produced this week with the subzero package will include a heated steering wheel. I think that makes the option a little more valuable.
Always have rubber protection LMAO!!! you're too funny. :) Love the review
after seeing what this car is capable of and the costs are so low is basically 90% of the charges are on superchargers that are free so I really have no desire to have a car that uses fossil fuel, and polluting the planet. The idea of Tesla have a car in a self-contained system is simply wonderful and is what we need, I see only advantages. today i saw that Tesla is building a 3 superchargers here in Portugal :) already this year
+João Pedro It sucks though unless you live in a big city or in california, no super chargers in my town
***** And if I want to drive a long distance........? Then what Mr. Smartass Mc. IQ of fucking 2? Did you fucking think about that smart guy?
simple! get lost and stay away!!!
+GooberSuess Long distance is no problemo. I have done 1000 km a day in the Tesla.
Meiby you would like to wisit Latvia in next Euro trip? Which app do you use or where you seek for public chargers when it's no superchargers around?
Latvia? Maybe if there's supercharger there. I use ladestasjoner.no for Norway and chargemap.com in Europe.
Have you made an 2 year review yet? How abour replacing tires? Are you forced to do it in a Tesla Store? Greetings from Argentina.-
+ebol08 I haven't made one yet. Here's a short summary: th-cam.com/video/jmAtsPiN3gw/w-d-xo.html
I replace the tires somewhere else than Tesla store.
Nice! BTW how many languages do you speak?
ebol08 I speak three languages: Norwegian, English and Thai.
+Bjørn Nyland Schmutz? A bit german too? :D
audhen1 Just a few words :)
I love the red bull first aid kit!
Yeah, that one always comes handy :)
Bjørn Nyland Does having to charge interrupt how far you would usually go before breaking to "fill up"? If it does does it annoy you?
Adam Dorety When traveling in Norway, the charging breaks is needed for toilet, food, etc anyways. But as soon as we move in Sweden, Denmark, France, etc where the speed limits are 120 or higher, then it would make more sense to have a 120 kWh battery.
The concept of electric cars is great. Only thing to work is on making these batteries last longer and charge faster. People might say it is too expensive but you always need some people to jump to new stuff which eventually be the standard.
maybe in 30 years we only driver electrics.
Do realise that with electric cars you dont have any exhaust, moving engine parts. etc. This will be a huge hit to the car market.
Hi, thanks for another intuitive video ;-)
The car being quite large, how is it to handle it in daily lifetime, i.e. over speed bumps, backing in to parking lots / parking houses, turning radious. Dose your wife drive it., what does she think about it?
I always use normal suspension height and I never have any problems over speed bumps. The car is quite large and wide so I have to avoid too tight parking spots. I always try to park a little away from the other cars either way. Because people usually don't care if they smash their crappy car's door on someone else's.
My wife drove it a few times and she thinks it's great and smooth.
Dear Björn!
Many thanks for your work on your Tesla-Blogging! Keep going like this!
So, you drove about 90´000km in one Year. How often did you have serviced your car? And what was the overall costs?
I have serviced the car once at 97k km. They replaced all four brake disks + pads, replaced 1,5 l transmission oil, checked cooling fluids, replaced wiper blades and some other checks. All that for 3550 NOK or about 400 Euros. Overall cost after ~100k km is about 5000 NOK for tires (in addition to the service cost).
"I dont know how you do it, but as for me I use rubber. its always good to have rubber protection.. oh shiiiet" haha, I died.
Hi Bjorn,
what is your experience with rattle noises or these anoying noises you can hear in some cars whn you go over rough roads? i mean without an gasoline engine the interior should be less noisy and so you can hear normally more rattle noises or whatever when you switch off the radio. How is the build quality there compared to your BMW for example?
greetings from a PASSAT (CC) Driver from Stuttgart / Germany
I have had some issues with rattle noise. Some of the noise was fixed, but I still have some rattle noise coming from the rear somewhere. This only occurs when driving on rough tarmac. The build quality in the BMW is in general better. And I'm missing some of the ergonomics in the E61, such as the dim LED in the roof that lids up the interior at night.
Great video review and overall all your videos. Can you calculate roughly how much you saved during this 1 year period with Tesla, when not driving your previous BMW? I am interested when buying Tesla actually pays off (including the price of Tesla car into expenses) - is it paid off already after 1 year or you can predict when it will happen?
You can calculate your saving on teslamotors.com. :-)
The numbers is for Norway. In your country it would be completely different. I have saved approximately $30k after doing 90k km.
Thank you for another great movie! How far have wifey progressed on her driving license? My wife got her Swedish driving license this week but now she says she will not drive for 2 years because of the "trial period" of 2 years...
Wifey haven't started driving lessons yet because she's still learning Norwegian.
Great video! Thanks for all your insights.
If You want to go to some realy exotic place, try Poland! And it's not that far away ;)
I've checked and the Tesla website shows, that some Superchargers should appear here this year (2015).
Great video. Thanks for taking the time!
I have a question you might have already answered:
Have you done a "cost" analysis of running the air conditioning?
20:00 so far :
Bigger sunshade mirror & LED lighting
Huge car (maybe with better battery tech we can shrunk it a bit, but still, I'd imagine a huge cargo bay is better).
Flush rear seat when folded to the floor
Cargo hook strap point
Additional solar panel on the roof (instead of panorama glass), front hood as well for additional electric power source.
12VDC plug @ cargo bay
Brighter cargo LED
Brighter signal lights (snow, dirt, fog, etc. problems).
Bigger glove box
Extra door stowage place
Better navigation computer (distance calculator would be very useful for predicting battery capacity, as well as traffic infos)
I just want to add a few thoughts about the fossil-fuel car vs EV issue.
Due to the higher emissions-norms, manufacturer's getting a hard time to cut down those deciliters from the consumption while they have to keep, or even increase performance. Mainly in Europe this is about to be a big problem in the future.
The tendency is clear. Fossil-cars are getting more complex, and are used on the edge. They barely offer cars without a turbo nowadays. Horsepower/ccm is getting higher and higher. You can get a Ford Mondeo, with 1 liter engine that can 125 hp. I mean, come on! This down-sizing is really bad for the reliability of the engine. Most of these probably won't make high amount of running performance.
It's starting to not worth to put more effort making even more unreliable fossil cars. We can't take big leaps from here to make this technology better. So engineers supposed to work on alternative ways like EVs and how to store energy even more efficiently.
Small engines with turbos also introduces turbo lag compared to naturally aspirated engines. Tesla owners are so spoiled there :P I remember watching a Top Gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson complains about a turbo engine with the lag. EVs must be heaven for him then.
Bjørn Nyland Yes. Although there have been improvements on the turbo lag issue in the last few years, but my statements on reliability applies. And ye, a Model S would be a heaven for Jeremy, if he did'nt act like a child and refused to test it...
Great Video!super Car!!All the Best Ursulla
Great video Bjørn Nyland! Thanks so much, watched every second and learned quite a bit. I ordered my Tesla just a couple of weeks ago (black with tan interior so now I'm slightly worried about seat staining from blue jeans!) and am looking forward to it's delivery. My only question to ask is whether you have ever experienced a busy supercharger station where you have had to wait before going on charge and if charging bays are generally available and not taken by random cars. Also, are people polite and don't just leave their tesla there for hours abusing the privilege? I am in Australia and as of today there is only 2 superchargers across the whole continent so interested to hear about the experience! Thanks and keep it up! *subscribes*
My dream car. Or concept, actually. I don't really like the Model S as a car. But a smaller Tesla would probably work wonders for me.
Great review! Thx
All the negatives you have pointed out, if you mention them at Tesla Forum you'll get flamed. Lol
Nah, I don't think so. I have already posted this video on the Tesla forum. Most serious owners know that the car, just like any other car brand, will have flaws.
WHAT A GREAT CAR CANT WAIT FOR MY GRANDSON TO PICK HIS UP awesome
Great detailed review, love the car!
Hi Bjorn, does 19inch tires make the difference with regards to range with the Model S I heard 21 inch tires shortens your range.
I don't know because I only use 19".
Thank you for taking the time to make this video review! How much longer are you planning to keep the car?
I'm planning to drive it for 1 million km.
Thank you so much for sharing.I will definately go into a deeper investigation of the car.Have subscribed, so am looking foreward to year 2 review.Dont think the referral system Works in Denmark, but thanks anyhow.
+Jørgen Wassmann Thanks for subscribing. What do you mean about referral system not working in Denmark?
Well - I do not know if it will - but I have just begun looking into the Whole "purchaseing a Tesla", and a discount is a discount, so naturally I would go for that, but I still have to go to my first test-drive (is ordered) and I then will ask, so I do not know if it even exists ?! I will find out and let you know.
And thanks Again for a TON of good stuf in your videos - am through some of them, and they really are great - keep on the good Work.
Jørgen Wassmann
Did you order a car with the referral link? Who's link was it then?
Hello Bjorn, can you please explain, why you think that the best intersection between driving speed and loading time (loading at Tesla SC) would be reachable with the driving speed of 160 km/h. I guess, the consumption of electricity will be very high at this speed. By the way, your German is very very good. I couldn't identify any accent, when you said the german word "Schmutz! ;-) Very fine, I love it!
I have done 120-140 km/h before, and including charging time it averaged about 85 km/h. Another Model S owner drove at 160 km/h and averaged 100 km/h including charging time. Finding the fastest traveling time is a very complex calculation that is hard or impossible to simulate. Not only does it depend on topology, but also on temperature, weather and load in the car. However, the SC is so fast that driving fast will pay off timewise. But when going above 160 km/h, the consumption goes up quite a bit. It also has to do with more heat generated from the battery and motor.
Bjørn Nyland
Wow, you're very fast, Bjorn. Thanks for your quick answer. I am curious about the experiences, I'll do in the next years with our new, two weeks old Model S. Your videos have been a great help for our buying decision.
***** It doesn't matter, how you use it. "Schmutz" is a german word and the Yiddish vocabulary is based on the german language as you can read here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language
Good review sir!
Hugo Garcia Thank you for the feedback :)
Its possible some of these issues were addressed in newer models since you have a older model. For example I am pretty sure they adjusted the outside lights.
Some of the issues were fixed already, such as corrosion in the side mirrors.
Hi Bjørn, are you planning to repeat the trip to the North Cape in the future with all those new superchargers? It might shorten the trip by quite some time.
It would be interesting to do another trip. Unfortunately, North Cape doesn't offer much interesting destinations on the way. And it's a long way there and we have so many other plans (for example Model S road trip through USA).
Bjørn Nyland
How are you planning on doing a trip in the USA? Can you ship your car here? I have wondered how to do exactly the same other way around after getting delivery of my MS.. meaning doing a trip in Europe..
Talha Shahid I will swap/lend my car with someone in US. Unless Tesla lends me a P85D for free :P
Talha Shahid
It won't work. Charging connector is different on the EU models.
So a US model won't be able to use Superchargers in EU, and vice versa.
Bjørn Nyland Remember, you already have your Niagara tour guide here. Unfortunately, no D on the horizon . . . yet.
Oh, and speaking of dimensions, I worry a bit about ground clearance. Some people have mentioned that the Tesla Model S is quite low to the ground, and there was a change (I think) in the minimum height setting with the air suspension because of some accidents in which cars struck objects in or on the road. But i have not yet been able to find ground clearance figures for the Mercedes Benz sedans or for the Audi A8, so I do not have a feel for how much the Tesla may or may not be unusual in this regard.
I always drive on Normal suspension height and have never scraped the bottom of the car when going over speed bumps or similar.
Hi Bjorn, what about the tires? How long did the last? considering the heavy torque in the rear wheels at least the tire life should be shorter....
Congratulation about your "tutorials"!
I have replaced the summer tires 1.5 times, meaning 6 tires were changed. The winter tires are still good for this winter season.
Bjørn Nyland one important information is still missing: how many km you drove with summer tires? Probably in the D the the duration will be more balanced between front and rear.
Luca Del Bo I did 31k on winter tires and 60k on summer tires.
I like Tesla but I think that NOW there are still many compromises to deal with. The range, the charging time, ecc... However, EVEN IF you try to imagine that these problems doesn't exist, I don't get the convenience of the car. Is still expensive (compared to the same pricerange cars it's not on par with interior quality, design, luxury) and the fact that you don't pay for gas and the maintenace is lower vanishes when you think that you'll have to replace that expensive battery. So, if I didn'get something wrong, it's a lie that one can do big saves because he hasn't to pay for gas. What do you think Bjorn?
Så deg i sta i Oslo, bakom slotet;)
Shieeeeet, er du sikker på at det var meg? Det er flere her som har en rød og skitten Tesla :P
It looks like you saved about 13,000-14,000 euros in diesel alone.
Yeah, that sounds about right. And probably about € 2000 in maintenance and €4000 in toll roads/ferries.