So, I noticed a play that could be done better: Around 7:28 ish, When you chained Mani you can wait on chaining it so that Silq can be able to hit the board. Reason being that you can bounce manifestation as chain link two on it. since Silq's bounce is for cost, the Manifestation will leave the field before it brings back the card, not only putting manifestation back in hand for next turn, but also letting you keep the target for manifestation on field. : )
Wait really? It can work like that!? That's something I will remember. Mechanics aside I'm trying to understand at what part you are referring to make that play. At the timestamp you gave there was nothing on my opponent's field so I couldn't use Silq's effect to bounce anything. A little after that is when I stopped the Orochi from being summoned and did another Mani chain but again there was nothing on my opponent's field. I need some help seeing what you are seeing.
@@CasualKeem I'm saying, generally it may be a better Idea to hold out on using mani until your opponent has something to bounce. That way you can get more value off the activation of mani
I think you had Multifaker in GY and Manifestation ready to activate at 14:54 draw phase? You can actually chain Silquitous to return Manifestation after you activated it to bounce Shangri La, so your opponent would not be able to special summon during standby phase, and your multifaker would still be summoned by Manifestation as it left the field before resolution.
Ahhh I see it! You are very right. I think that was a case of tunnel vision there. I think I was so focused on removing Fenrir that I forgot I could just stop Shangri-ira. Either that or I forgot to turn my toggle on and had to play around my mistake.
Since Personal Spoofing is too slow and not searchable I replaced it with Small World and it works SO GOOD....Also I reduced traps to 1 of Manifestation, 1 Protocol, 1 Haunted Rock and 1 Revitslization. I cut Prosperity because I have no targets to banish tbh as I want everything I have in my extra deck
I actually started out with small world because I thought the same as you with Personal Spoofing. You can see it in earlier videos. It was until i found out it’s true potential of instantly triggering Multifaker effect when it searches her. Which made things much less slower than one would think and opened a few doors I didn’t realize were there. As for prosperity, I built my deck to rely less on extra deck summoning and more on trap control. So I don’t need every extra deck card. Once the main extra deck monsters are in rotation I just keep recycling them with manifestation.
@@smillerbee8115 I'm curious, how do you use dark renewal? Cause I feel a lot of the better decks have many ways to dodge it. Relying on your opponent to keep a monster on the field, or not out right negate it, is very difficult right now.
@@CasualKeem better wait for their important normal summon or their boss mons. And since alterg mons special summoned by malwisp cant activate their eff (mostly i summon meluseek with her during opp turn), i can trigger meluseek by sending her to gy + summon multifaker from deck/gy with dark renewal. I know its slow since it is trap card, but sometimes i feel its better to have more options because ash blossom mostly used to negate spoofing or hexstia
@@smillerbee8115 That’s very much too slow for me. Not because it’s a trap, if you see my list it’s basically a trap deck. On paper I get it, but Solemn Strike I feel achieves all this better. It stops the boss monsters, can’t be negated accept by other counter traps and can be used if you don’t have a monster on field. It also negates Ash blossom or other annoying effects that can stop you play.
Yubel is fine. The deck has tools to deal with included “evenly matched 😉”. Yubel specifically can handle monster effects but this is technically a trap deck. Always keep in mind this is deck is not an auto win deck. It’s a control deck that earns its wins from understanding what your opponents are doing and dismantling their plays and board effectively.
@@CasualKeem Yeah Yubel is mostly fine until the opponent starts filling the back row. I wanna prevent that. And everyone plays Evenly Matched I have it on my synchro puking deck which can be stop easily with few hand traps. That's why I'm here. I want a deck that don't rely so much on extra deck cards. Auto win... what?
@@pretty_hell Altergiest definitely relies it's extra deck. I've showcased a few that don't, like "Umi Control, Volcanics and Nemleria and Dogmatika. Or you can look up Decks like Shinobird and Vangquish Soul. OF course Labrynth as well. For Back row removal, "Heavy storm" got unbanned, there is "Cosmic cyclone" and also "Unending Nightmare", if you can find space for these cards. When I say "auto win", I mean the most recent top decks, which are super consistent and play through every disruption get all their cards back etc. etc. eg. the tearlaments, snake eyes and all that. With this Altergiest deck you get heavy punished for slightly misplaying, or wasting cards.
So, I noticed a play that could be done better:
Around 7:28 ish, When you chained Mani you can wait on chaining it so that Silq can be able to hit the board. Reason being that you can bounce manifestation as chain link two on it. since Silq's bounce is for cost, the Manifestation will leave the field before it brings back the card, not only putting manifestation back in hand for next turn, but also letting you keep the target for manifestation on field. : )
Wait really? It can work like that!? That's something I will remember.
Mechanics aside I'm trying to understand at what part you are referring to make that play. At the timestamp you gave there was nothing on my opponent's field so I couldn't use Silq's effect to bounce anything. A little after that is when I stopped the Orochi from being summoned and did another Mani chain but again there was nothing on my opponent's field.
I need some help seeing what you are seeing.
@@CasualKeem I'm saying, generally it may be a better Idea to hold out on using mani until your opponent has something to bounce. That way you can get more value off the activation of mani
I think you had Multifaker in GY and Manifestation ready to activate at 14:54 draw phase? You can actually chain Silquitous to return Manifestation after you activated it to bounce Shangri La, so your opponent would not be able to special summon during standby phase, and your multifaker would still be summoned by Manifestation as it left the field before resolution.
Ahhh I see it! You are very right. I think that was a case of tunnel vision there. I think I was so focused on removing Fenrir that I forgot I could just stop Shangri-ira.
Either that or I forgot to turn my toggle on and had to play around my mistake.
Since Personal Spoofing is too slow and not searchable I replaced it with Small World and it works SO GOOD....Also I reduced traps to 1 of Manifestation, 1 Protocol, 1 Haunted Rock and 1 Revitslization. I cut Prosperity because I have no targets to banish tbh as I want everything I have in my extra deck
I actually started out with small world because I thought the same as you with Personal Spoofing. You can see it in earlier videos.
It was until i found out it’s true potential of instantly triggering Multifaker effect when it searches her. Which made things much less slower than one would think and opened a few doors I didn’t realize were there.
As for prosperity, I built my deck to rely less on extra deck summoning and more on trap control. So I don’t need every extra deck card. Once the main extra deck monsters are in rotation I just keep recycling them with manifestation.
Also dark renewal works pretty good in this deck
@@smillerbee8115 I'm curious, how do you use dark renewal? Cause I feel a lot of the better decks have many ways to dodge it. Relying on your opponent to keep a monster on the field, or not out right negate it, is very difficult right now.
@@CasualKeem better wait for their important normal summon or their boss mons. And since alterg mons special summoned by malwisp cant activate their eff (mostly i summon meluseek with her during opp turn), i can trigger meluseek by sending her to gy + summon multifaker from deck/gy with dark renewal. I know its slow since it is trap card, but sometimes i feel its better to have more options because ash blossom mostly used to negate spoofing or hexstia
@@smillerbee8115 That’s very much too slow for me. Not because it’s a trap, if you see my list it’s basically a trap deck. On paper I get it, but Solemn Strike I feel achieves all this better.
It stops the boss monsters, can’t be negated accept by other counter traps and can be used if you don’t have a monster on field. It also negates Ash blossom or other annoying effects that can stop you play.
Just got in here. Lesgo try to learn Altergeist.
Great video!
Many thanks. Altergeist is such a fun deck😁.
Love the title. Love this deck
Thank you. It is the truth, I had to learn so much to use and build this deck effectively. Now it's my new favourite deck 😀.
Hey are u still here? How is this deck doing now we have Yubel on board?
Yubel is fine. The deck has tools to deal with included “evenly matched 😉”. Yubel specifically can handle monster effects but this is technically a trap deck.
Always keep in mind this is deck is not an auto win deck. It’s a control deck that earns its wins from understanding what your opponents are doing and dismantling their plays and board effectively.
@@CasualKeem Yeah Yubel is mostly fine until the opponent starts filling the back row. I wanna prevent that. And everyone plays Evenly Matched I have it on my synchro puking deck which can be stop easily with few hand traps. That's why I'm here. I want a deck that don't rely so much on extra deck cards. Auto win... what?
@@pretty_hell Altergiest definitely relies it's extra deck. I've showcased a few that don't, like "Umi Control, Volcanics and Nemleria and Dogmatika.
Or you can look up Decks like Shinobird and Vangquish Soul. OF course Labrynth as well.
For Back row removal, "Heavy storm" got unbanned, there is "Cosmic cyclone" and also "Unending Nightmare", if you can find space for these cards.
When I say "auto win", I mean the most recent top decks, which are super consistent and play through every disruption get all their cards back etc. etc. eg. the tearlaments, snake eyes and all that. With this Altergiest deck you get heavy punished for slightly misplaying, or wasting cards.
@@CasualKeem Long winded talk. Thanks for convincing me not to play it.
@@pretty_hell Hopefully you find that right deck for your needs.
nice video. keep goin!❤
Thank you😄. I’ll do my best.
Nice music ❤
@@hauhuynhvan6654 Glad you enjoyed 😄