21:47 "It's not that hard to kill me." - as justin is spamming smokes in front of the poor guy's face as he's also backing off xD Lova the content as always, goodluck on the 100k subscriber mark :3
it's completely correct. The *theoretical* top speed is 63kph, but it's limited to 61kph by the Bundeswehr and such. The transmission is not different, it's tweaked to sacrifice a bit of speed in order to have the same amount of mobility as the Leopard 2A4
it dont really need it thought does it mate consideriny you will have 5+ copy pasta leopards to use other than than that best armor and best ammo why the fuck do you need your hand held even more? if the speed is a issue for you.. its not the tank its you and no matter how op something will be in game you'll still perform the same as a individual.
@@Vanta122 ah, yes.. Germany, the hand held nation which doesn't even have the best Leopard 2's (with exception of this patch because of 2A7V) If anything Sweden is here handheld, the Strv122's are way better because of their armour and just in general better kit, not to mention they get both 3 uparmoured better Leopard 2's, they also get Germany's previous top mbt (2A6). 2A7V armour should be way better than the Strv122's since it's much newer and better armour, yet when people provided that evidence Gaijin nerfed it to be worse than the Strv122's
@JustinPlays Thank you so much for covering STRV122B+ ! Really like Sweden and their vehicles :D ! Keep up the good work and have a wonderful holiday! ;)
@@BlackHawk21ificationI feel for the first tree it’s justifiable to get players to bring lineups and get experience with different vehicles but after you reach x rank in one tree you should have all the corresponding ranks unlocked in all other trees (though should still have to research the prior vehicle down a line)
@@interpl6089 Yeeep, also made it absolutely worse than before as they semi-undone the whole "rebalancing RP needed for mods" change as now being rank 8 means every mod is 3-8k more RP
its crazy ive watched you for soo long that i havent had you subscribed till recently, ig you could say i look for your vids just to watch it but man your vids are entertaining and helpful to watch soo thank you
the speed of the 2A7V is completely correct. It's theoretical speed os 63kph but it's limited to 61kph by the Bundeswehr. The reason for the decreased speed is because they tweaked the transmission to have the same amount of mobility as the Leopard 2A4 whilst being heavier
Something I just noticed is that they seem to have added more armor on the cv9040c. I'm not 100% certain because I haven't unlocked it yet but it looks more armored than it used to.
it was awesome seeing the tunisia game from a diff perspective - my friend was in that game and we were in a vc, where i mentioned you just an hour before, he didnt say hi to you in chat though thanks for doing your best to help him :))), nice gameplay as always :)
I love the powercreep sweden has gotten. Back when I started playing WT sweden was pretty darn bad and basically the only reason I played it was because I'm swedish.
The need to reflect the transmission changes to the 2a7v in game. So somewhat of a car guy here: The 2a7v had its gear ratios changed to make it accelerate quicker and can be comparable to the 2a4 (claimed). When you change gear ratios to make something accelerate quicker....you usually always trade off top speed. Hence the 2A7V reduced top speed is reflected here but the other side to that trade off isn't. Now don't get me wrong the 2a7v is still pretty quick with all its engines upgrades. But I think because the top speed and acceleration go hand in hand....you shouldn't implement one without the other.
Justin you need to do what i do. Use Swedish HE rounds on turret cheeks of the T-80s and Lob a HE underneath the gun mantlet on the new T-90M and it will overpressure them :)
But still mate it needs m833 Well if we talking about the m1 abrams but i just unlocked the m1a1 after 6 years of playing without premium i dont play often
Its not the problem that the Strv 122s have the better armor than the Leo 2a7v, the problem is that Sweden has 3 of them with the best armor in the game + a Leo 2a6 with Dm53 and Germany only has the Leo 2a7v with the Hull spall liners and the better armor. In theory the 2a6 could carry the hull armor bcs almost all Leo 2a6s in the Bundeswehr got upgraded to the latest standards. So the 2a5. And the PSO also could carry it. It obviously has the hull upgrade vor the armor :d
Haven't watched yet, but seeing it in your lineup.... fun fact, the JAS39 is definitely one of the best CAS aircraft I've ever seen, that thing is like unhittable with Pantsir/FlaRakRad/ADATS if the pilot knows how to fly, that thing can pull some truly *insane* moves! (source; I've died to them in almost every game I've brought my Pantsir/FlaRakRad to, and I don't think I'm too bad at using the missiles on them LOL)
still doesnt have the specific speed of a PSO, the only thing this has is the front hull skirt protection on the PSO but no 50cal to handle helis. so in all aspects its still a regular leo, with no outstanding features. i mean the A7V is no different. its kinda funny how all the leos weigh the same but the A7V was nerfed in speed so it wouldnt manhandle all the new tanks. but the PLSS B+ is a slap in the face tbh. i love how they were advertising a tough nut to crack but litterally like any leo, just send the round right below the breech or through the drives hatch and you are dead. like for real.
m/95 makes up for the lackluster penetration with so much more spalling in my experience. Probs because it's a much heavier dart than the other top tier darts
Its more because of the slower muzzle velocity and lower penetration that it has more spalling. DM53 fired from the L/55 has far less spalling because the round itself can penetrate more armor without disintegrating into fragments. Then add a higher velocity, and the spalling cone will be much narrower. DM53 is nice when it comes to shooting obscure spots on russian tanks and the m1a2, but in general, especially for side shots and weak spot shooting, at minimum L/44 DM53 is better, and then m/95 is even better.
the top speed between the str122b+ and the 2a7 is a bit of a useless comparison. the 2a7 has shorter gearing meaning it can theoritically move around quicker than the strv122B+ in most scenarios
Justin, the Leopard 2A7V is still better than the STRV 122B+. Yes the STRV 122 has more armour than the Leopard, but the Leo only lacked front armour on the hull. But still enjoy your content.
@@cameronaugusta7466 it doesn't, but it's there, alongside thermals which honestly are a godsend over gen1 thermals that the previous leopards and 122s have. i take the few downsides.
i like the b+ but i think the 2a7v is still a bit better bc better pen,better thermal,etc. and i like you and i apprechiate your complyment that im good and smart
Too bad gaijin dont do a shit about French Leclerc's, love these tanks but the f1 shell could be replaced by f2 and the paper armor is like wtf i dont even know where is armor on this tank, btw good content as always!
How come you bring so much fuel for the gripen? I'm not as good as you or play at top tier yet but I don't think I've ever needed more than 20minutes of fuel.
Helis are more efficient than a giant profile of a plane flying in the open sky with zero cover while using laser guided munitions, whereas helis can hide behind objects, mountains, trees, etc. So yes, they can be a bit more annoying.
Let me get this straight, Leo 2A7 is much newer, much heavier even slower and yet has worse armour than this thing? What is Gaijin smoking, this is stupid…
I think something that also has to he looked at is lineups. Sweden's top teir lineup is poind for pound WAY better than Germany. Nobody is looking at that.
Probably in the minority of your viewership but please don't ask for sportsmanship from players when you play CAS in Ground RB. Before I get raked over the coals I believe there should be a game-mode separate from Ground RB called Joint Forces where CAS is allowed. I refuse to play CAS on the principle that I hate being in a good position and holding the fort then suddenly dying to a plane I never knew existed from insane, un-defendable heights. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, too easy so it shouldn't be in. Too many times do I run into matches where a single guy gets a kill and/or a capture point, dies then spawns in an aircraft with insane ground pound reach and dominates the match going 8-1 when in reality they touched the ground once the entire match.
talking about sportsmanship agienst people who just want to sit out of range of tanks and play point and click tank adventure yeah sure ill take that to hearth :)
Which is better the leopard 2a7v or the strv 122b+? I know the title says the 122 is better but I’m curious to know what others think. Just which one has a better gun overall and better armor. There’s weirdly a massive lack of info except on these random Reddit posts from quite a while ago
This and the B PLSS are without a doubt the best mbts in the game and the spall liners have made them so dangerous!
honestly because of the lack of Gen 2 thermals and lack of pen compared to the leo 5-6-7 i would say germany has a better and more dangerous leo
@@ehcanadian2599 the pen doesn't matter, its less than 50mm diff. Armor is your friend. cmdr thermal is better anyway so get gud.
@@ehcanadian2599 the pen is negligible, the weakspots remain the same
ты не прав. лучший обт это бт5
@@ceTarnitynah but dm53 can pen kontakt-5 ufp tanks
You can make the PLSS and B+ Lighter by removing the mine protection.
It actually saved my butt a few times so I left it on
@@JustinPlaysTVно отчего? и как?
WHAT@@LEOPARD_FOX
@@LEOPARD_FOXheat round under your tank can kill you easily but it’s unlikely
How though ?
@@JustinPlaysTV
21:47
"It's not that hard to kill me." - as justin is spamming smokes in front of the poor guy's face as he's also backing off xD
Lova the content as always, goodluck on the 100k subscriber mark :3
The speed of the Leo 2A7V is nearly correct, the tank has a different transmission and acceleration, the top speed is 63km/h and not 61.
it's completely correct.
The *theoretical* top speed is 63kph, but it's limited to 61kph by the Bundeswehr and such. The transmission is not different, it's tweaked to sacrifice a bit of speed in order to have the same amount of mobility as the Leopard 2A4
@@evo3s75declasified?
it dont really need it thought does it mate consideriny you will have 5+ copy pasta leopards to use other than than that best armor and best ammo why the fuck do you need your hand held even more? if the speed is a issue for you.. its not the tank its you and no matter how op something will be in game you'll still perform the same as a individual.
@@dexwy iirc Bundeswehr site and rheinmetall state that.
It's not so much classified as just publically available knowledge
@@Vanta122 ah, yes.. Germany, the hand held nation which doesn't even have the best Leopard 2's (with exception of this patch because of 2A7V)
If anything Sweden is here handheld, the Strv122's are way better because of their armour and just in general better kit, not to mention they get both 3 uparmoured better Leopard 2's, they also get Germany's previous top mbt (2A6).
2A7V armour should be way better than the Strv122's since it's much newer and better armour, yet when people provided that evidence Gaijin nerfed it to be worse than the Strv122's
@JustinPlays Thank you so much for covering STRV122B+ ! Really like Sweden and their vehicles :D !
Keep up the good work and have a wonderful holiday! ;)
Love the content as always! Its a shame I cant unlock this tank, even though I have 122b/a, without having to finish a new line because of rank 8 :(
tbh that system of needing to research 5-6 other vehicles just to get to the rest is useless, just let people have fun
same that happened to me, luckily i only needed one more tank of rank 7, but I have the strv122b+ now
The whole rank 8 thing is to get people to buy premiums and prolong the grind extremely using a simple and ''innocent'' change...
@@BlackHawk21ificationI feel for the first tree it’s justifiable to get players to bring lineups and get experience with different vehicles but after you reach x rank in one tree you should have all the corresponding ranks unlocked in all other trees (though should still have to research the prior vehicle down a line)
@@interpl6089 Yeeep, also made it absolutely worse than before as they semi-undone the whole "rebalancing RP needed for mods" change as now being rank 8 means every mod is 3-8k more RP
its crazy ive watched you for soo long that i havent had you subscribed till recently, ig you could say i look for your vids just to watch it but man your vids are entertaining and helpful to watch
soo thank you
the speed of the 2A7V is completely correct.
It's theoretical speed os 63kph but it's limited to 61kph by the Bundeswehr. The reason for the decreased speed is because they tweaked the transmission to have the same amount of mobility as the Leopard 2A4 whilst being heavier
Just found the channel pleasant commentary. I don’t even play this game I’m just taking a shit and like tanks. Here’s my sub sir you’ve earned it.
The Gun on the Gripen is a 27mm gun, it can fire APHE that has 57mm of pen.
Isn't it just a swedish version of the Gun thats on the Tornados.
yep@@DevinEMILE
Yep, Mauser bk 27mm
5:33 play it at 0.25x speed you can see a Russian Sabot nearly hit him
The swedish are becoming one of the best nations all round, the cas on the gripen, the strv122 lineup, leo 2a6, t80’s
They still need more cas with smart ammunition at 9.3 and 10.0, and maybe useful helis for these brs. :)
Because their niche, the devs can’t let america be good
Cause the devs are biased towards America so anything else is way better
I like the PLSS more because of the commander sight.
Something I just noticed is that they seem to have added more armor on the cv9040c. I'm not 100% certain because I haven't unlocked it yet but it looks more armored than it used to.
It has spalliners now but other than that I think the armor is the same.
8:31 just wanna add that I downed a ka-52 with a gbu-12 in the gripen the other day. So it can be done,
Direct hit or splash?
@@shikikanaz4624 direct hit
it was awesome seeing the tunisia game from a diff perspective - my friend was in that game and we were in a vc, where i mentioned you just an hour before, he didnt say hi to you in chat though thanks for doing your best to help him :))), nice gameplay as always :)
I love the powercreep sweden has gotten. Back when I started playing WT sweden was pretty darn bad and basically the only reason I played it was because I'm swedish.
sweden has had best tank since strv 122 was added
Dont worry Justin, the BM-31 you killed at 12:07 was a fair target. He killed a guy early into the game lmao
As a Swedish main - this thing is almost impossible to one tap in front
i got the strv 122b+ and i have only died 1 time from a oneshot. its amazing!
Yeah german tanksr really are amazing
The Gripen is very agile because is even smaller than an F-16, it has a single F/A-18C Hornet engine
This gripen has the Volvo rm 12 engine i think
It's not just size, the canards contribute a lot to its ability to pull hard
@@PerunaFromFinland An upgraded version of the General Electric F404 indeed
About time been waiting thank you
I really wish i would have ground out the Swedish ground tree when it was first added 😢
Just about finished the Swedish ground tree, It's been fun but frustrating at times.
@@chrisparker2118Just got the 121, i hope the grind will be easier paired with the 90105
Guess who bought the last rank VII vehicle I needed from Christmas sale and started the research on this.
he did not just shot a driver with the most lethal AP round a human being has ever been headshotted. 💀
You can overpressure with russian HE the swedish leo slightly easier compared to the german leos. There is a slight angle on top which loves HE.
funny that with this boi, somehow its meant to have even better internal armor due to the irl upgrade but was not made in-game
Funny how leoprad have spall liner in turret. Not to mention the Abrams and m1128, which don't have at all, even though they should
The need to reflect the transmission changes to the 2a7v in game.
So somewhat of a car guy here:
The 2a7v had its gear ratios changed to make it accelerate quicker and can be comparable to the 2a4 (claimed).
When you change gear ratios to make something accelerate quicker....you usually always trade off top speed.
Hence the 2A7V reduced top speed is reflected here but the other side to that trade off isn't.
Now don't get me wrong the 2a7v is still pretty quick with all its engines upgrades. But I think because the top speed and acceleration go hand in hand....you shouldn't implement one without the other.
надо написать гайджин
2a7 doesnt need a buff
@@daskollektiv4593 this isn't a buff. This is finishing the stats the tank already has. It how transmission works.
@@unlockingsnow73 dont care and the 2a7 doesnt need it
@@daskollektiv4593 it does
14:18 imagine flying in first person mod , and get jumpscared by a bomb inches to hit yr aircraft
What’s the decal he has underneath the optics on the 122B+? 5:31
gen 1 gunner thermal is the biggest dissapointment
My favourite nation, and my new Strv "Chubss" 122+ ❤
Love ya Justin and fellow viewers! Hope you all have a wonderful holiday period 😊❤
Justin you need to do what i do. Use Swedish HE rounds on turret cheeks of the T-80s and Lob a HE underneath the gun mantlet on the new T-90M and it will overpressure them :)
Abrams got buffed with 5s reload😃
But still mate it needs m833
Well if we talking about the m1 abrams but i just unlocked the m1a1 after 6 years of playing without premium i dont play often
@@rainbowcat6616 all 120mm Abrams (M1A1 and M1A2) have 5s ace crew reload now
I'm looking forward to your VT-4A1 video🙏
Its not the problem that the Strv 122s have the better armor than the Leo 2a7v, the problem is that Sweden has 3 of them with the best armor in the game + a Leo 2a6 with Dm53 and Germany only has the Leo 2a7v with the Hull spall liners and the better armor.
In theory the 2a6 could carry the hull armor bcs almost all Leo 2a6s in the Bundeswehr got upgraded to the latest standards. So the 2a5. And the PSO also could carry it. It obviously has the hull upgrade vor the armor :d
If only gaijin would give the 122s’ their auto targeting computers
It’s literally one of the hardest tanks to kill in game it doesn’t need more 😭
Haven't watched yet, but seeing it in your lineup.... fun fact, the JAS39 is definitely one of the best CAS aircraft I've ever seen, that thing is like unhittable with Pantsir/FlaRakRad/ADATS if the pilot knows how to fly, that thing can pull some truly *insane* moves! (source; I've died to them in almost every game I've brought my Pantsir/FlaRakRad to, and I don't think I'm too bad at using the missiles on them LOL)
The whole rank 8 thing is to get people to buy premiums and prolong the grind extremely using a simple and ''innocent'' change...
Can’t wait to have 3 of them my jas39 and be the only person on my team who respawns
still doesnt have the specific speed of a PSO, the only thing this has is the front hull skirt protection on the PSO but no 50cal to handle helis. so in all aspects its still a regular leo, with no outstanding features. i mean the A7V is no different. its kinda funny how all the leos weigh the same but the A7V was nerfed in speed so it wouldnt manhandle all the new tanks. but the PLSS B+ is a slap in the face tbh. i love how they were advertising a tough nut to crack but litterally like any leo, just send the round right below the breech or through the drives hatch and you are dead. like for real.
Autocannon fire will have trouble going through the side? L26 can't even pen it lol.
m/95 makes up for the lackluster penetration with so much more spalling in my experience. Probs because it's a much heavier dart than the other top tier darts
Its more because of the slower muzzle velocity and lower penetration that it has more spalling. DM53 fired from the L/55 has far less spalling because the round itself can penetrate more armor without disintegrating into fragments. Then add a higher velocity, and the spalling cone will be much narrower. DM53 is nice when it comes to shooting obscure spots on russian tanks and the m1a2, but in general, especially for side shots and weak spot shooting, at minimum L/44 DM53 is better, and then m/95 is even better.
the top speed between the str122b+ and the 2a7 is a bit of a useless comparison. the 2a7 has shorter gearing meaning it can theoritically move around quicker than the strv122B+ in most scenarios
Yo Merry Christmas Justin
Still no abrams spall liner huh?
Play abrams v2 it has 5 sec reload at ace crew i think
Really Wish they would add the 2A6 (Afghan) Version used by the Canadians in Afghanistan. The latest Leopard put into combat use. (Aside from Ukraine)
Justin, the Leopard 2A7V is still better than the STRV 122B+. Yes the STRV 122 has more armour than the Leopard, but the Leo only lacked front armour on the hull. But still enjoy your content.
The 2a7v still lacks a big part of the front armour that the strv 122 does have above the bulge
@@Ace-l8z7qa little bit, yeah, but dm53 and gen 3 thermals compensate it
Dm53 makes no difference at top tier. The M95 will go through all the same weak points that Dm53 will. The ONLY thing the 2A7 has is Gen 3 thermals.
And m/95 has better spalling.
@@cameronaugusta7466 it doesn't, but it's there, alongside thermals which honestly are a godsend over gen1 thermals that the previous leopards and 122s have.
i take the few downsides.
i like the b+ but i think the 2a7v is still a bit better bc better pen,better thermal,etc. and i like you and i apprechiate your complyment that im good and smart
Too bad gaijin dont do a shit about French Leclerc's, love these tanks but the f1 shell could be replaced by f2 and the paper armor is like wtf i dont even know where is armor on this tank, btw good content as always!
How many times you actually see someone in heli use sportsmanship?
90% of the time they are spawn camping.
But uh. He was doing the same thing. In a STRV.
Justin did you see they buffed the Abrams 120 reload speed to 5 seconds with an ace crew and 6.5s base xd
Doesn't work right now though, been playing and it's still 6 aced
@@JustinPlaysTV it shows up in the crew stats but not in the actual stats weirdly enough
@@Optimusprime56241 i took the time, it is already applied, my M1A2 reloaded in 5.3 seconds which is my current expert crew time
Hopefully next update we will get the Leopard 2A7AHU for Hungary. Italy really needs something good at top teir....
Waiting for the Strv 123....
why we have still not got c and d
It's not even in service irl; will be in 2026 if i recall correctly
@@alessandrozucchelli4090Neither is the challenger 3 but here we are
5:59 SUFFER A LITTLE BIT?!
Try out the new m1a2 buff with its 5.0 sec reload on ace crew!
Germany needs more 2a7 variants for its armour. Sweden gets 3 Germany only gets 1
Is it correct that this tank has Gen 1 gunner thermals?
I wouldn;t well imagine it is, but I'm not well informed on this so.. Maybe?
on 4:26 it does look like Gen 1 thermals@@JustinPlaysTV
I love Justin has feelings for challys 😂
I Dont think a tank has ever annoyed me so bad I get getting "non penetrations" no matter where i hit this tank ...
You can't even hit the turret ring like you can on every other tank
my first game with it, stock (no repair or fpe), and i got a nuke.
Still no abrams spall liner…
top tier looks nice don't get why gaijin do they best to make the grind so long and bad that many people give up long befor they hit top tier
I can watch Gripen conent 24-7 x.x
All of the best Br*tish planes aren't in their tech tree, so the best leopards not being in the german tree isn't really something mindblowing.
How come you bring so much fuel for the gripen? I'm not as good as you or play at top tier yet but I don't think I've ever needed more than 20minutes of fuel.
23:11 ok got the same map while watching this vid at this point and same gamemode.
sweden rly be tanking a leopard giving it a worse apfsds and making the frontal armor a bit better and called it there own tank
and it never will be with the Strv123A being introduced
Dude FR said helis are annoying while using GBUs lol
Helis are more efficient than a giant profile of a plane flying in the open sky with zero cover while using laser guided munitions, whereas helis can hide behind objects, mountains, trees, etc.
So yes, they can be a bit more annoying.
Justin do a review of the Abrams next they got a reload buff
I'm tempted to..
Just got x3 kills in a row within a minute on two Leopard 2A7Vs and one STRV 122 PLSS in my M1A2 SEP that Reload buff is a godsend.
37% is actually a lot of people subbed and watching compared to other channels, just subbed today hoping i can get it to 38% and liked
21:45 l mean he saw the teammate a greater threat so he went to deal with him first and deal with u last
dk.....l dont play warthunder (':
did they nerf the swedish thermals?
i thought this thing used 2nd gen thermal
On commander, yes
Yeah ik, was hoping gunner had too
And they gave us a sh*ty abrmas that same everything but "looks cool and heavier
and som of the cv90 got spall liners to =)
Let me get this straight, Leo 2A7 is much newer, much heavier even slower and yet has worse armour than this thing? What is Gaijin smoking, this is stupid…
I think something that also has to he looked at is lineups. Sweden's top teir lineup is poind for pound WAY better than Germany. Nobody is looking at that.
I just kind of funny that no CC out there is playing the new Abrams they always play in the German or the Russians or swedes what's up with that
Because the abrams is doodoo right now, but may the reload buf helps
spall liners shouldn't be in the game. I don't know why gajin keeps being stubborn with it
Probably in the minority of your viewership but please don't ask for sportsmanship from players when you play CAS in Ground RB.
Before I get raked over the coals I believe there should be a game-mode separate from Ground RB called Joint Forces where CAS is allowed. I refuse to play CAS on the principle that I hate being in a good position and holding the fort then suddenly dying to a plane I never knew existed from insane, un-defendable heights. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, too easy so it shouldn't be in. Too many times do I run into matches where a single guy gets a kill and/or a capture point, dies then spawns in an aircraft with insane ground pound reach and dominates the match going 8-1 when in reality they touched the ground once the entire match.
Spalliner shouldn't be in the game, it only makes the strongest vehicles even stronger.
bmp2m bouncing a dm53. That's all there is to say.
They buffed the gun on the tigers HAP/D Now i kill jets with lol
honestly, France is being forgotten
Thx ur the best
More love to the North. Down with the Gremlins! :O
Stop using a bomb fuze when bombing
Why the fuck aftwr the update, after some times they exit me from the round ? Wtf.. not even killed and they bring me to hamgar
Soon STRV 123A
talking about sportsmanship agienst people who just want to sit out of range of tanks and play point and click tank adventure yeah sure ill take that to hearth :)
Thats.. the whole point of modern vehicles? I mean, how else would you play, constant CQB?
@@JustinPlaysTV i was referring to helicopters also I would love a game mode whit out helicopters
@@2200calle agreed.. but it won't happen :(
as a Sweden main this update was sick got a awesome new tank and jet
Still prefer the A7V with crisp gen3s and all mighty heavy hitting DM53 😅
dm53 is worse then m95 it spall less
@@lordcurre39 not really
@@lordcurre39So?
Go for it 100k eZ ^^
Which is better the leopard 2a7v or the strv 122b+? I know the title says the 122 is better but I’m curious to know what others think. Just which one has a better gun overall and better armor.
There’s weirdly a massive lack of info except on these random Reddit posts from quite a while ago
122b+ has better armor and slightly better mobility (i think)? but worse pen+
"Top Tiers Best Leopard STILL Isn't German.. " ya you know... that is just your opinion
Been playing for 8 years. Every single tank is nerfed except the Russian ones. Gajin wants fair and balanced. Really doesn't matter.