Top 10 Extinct British steam locomotives(OUTDATED)

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  • @cliffmiller689
    @cliffmiller689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Any man who is a Gresley fan is a friend of mine. The P2 is being built just 60 miles from where I live and going by the quality of workmanship they put into their A1 "Tornado" loco, it will be spectacular. Tornado has already been run at over 100 miles per hour in a controlled test run, so I wait developments of the P2 with excitement. Thanks for a very interesting video.

  • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
    @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    For those who have suggested me to do an Extinct UK Steam locomotives list, your request is granted!
    Thank you for 700 subscribers!
    Oh and a minor correction to the P2 project. The expected completion is said to be in 2023, but might change again

    • @Kinggojo465
      @Kinggojo465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha hush hush XD

    • @Zayy4513
      @Zayy4513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You hate Thomas the tank in 😭😭😭

  • @florjanbrudar692
    @florjanbrudar692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Not a single Claud Hamilton escaped the cutter's torch"
    That's just really sad

    • @andrewcraig-bennett3659
      @andrewcraig-bennett3659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s almost worse: one was marked out to be preserved but the sign was only painted on one side of the cab and the chap with the gas axe started on the other side. True story.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewcraig-bennett3659 I know one was to be preserved but wait... on *one* side and he scrapped it anyway? if I was there and saw the word, I'd instantly put the cutter's torch down, no question.

  • @nielsleenknegt5839
    @nielsleenknegt5839 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thompson, living alone and leading the LNER during WAR, did what he had to do. The p2s were only available for about 55% of the time, and after their rebuild that number raised to about 75-78% i think. Railway mainia had a podcast on thompsen and it shows that he might not even be as bad as people say.

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I later learned all that a year ago. No need to remind me there. I was hoping to address that in a Halloween video that’ll premiere this October but I didn’t have enough time, and so devoted it toward something even bigger that has been demanding my own personal rectification in video form

  • @jonberghello6877
    @jonberghello6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Baldwin 60000 was an experimental (4-10-2) locomotive. It was built in 1926. It was meant to be a prototype for future locomotive designs. However, none of the American railroads sought interest in it, despite having successful demonstration runs. It was put in storage in 1928 and in 1933, Baldwin 60000 was donated to the Franklin Institute where it remains on display.

  • @isaiahmarchington7614
    @isaiahmarchington7614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Still struggling at talking, but Getting better

    • @robinfryer479
      @robinfryer479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your silly outburst at the end is both self-demeaning and self-destructive. Most people in UK already know about the antipathy of ET towards the LNER hierarchy. He was a pretty sick man, too. I am a Bulleid as well as a Gresley man. Despite which it’s worth reporting that certain Gresley features required a great deal of skilled and time-consuming maintenance, which began to vanish during and after the war. And not in the least, the question of the national debt.

    • @ciala51
      @ciala51 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The chief mechanical engineers I like are urie of the SR maunseal of the SR and bulleid of the SR and well I guess staniar and collet are ok to I guess but the good ones are the southern ones are best

    • @lukecona2749
      @lukecona2749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robinfryer479 Now that’s just rude.

    • @dalekinthewater4708
      @dalekinthewater4708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinfryer479 Rude. Isaiah is still trying to get better at talking and you're putting him, her or they down because of something they said. That's like telling a person who is relearning to walk and you're yelling not good enough. Grow up and show some decency and respect.

    • @Kinggojo465
      @Kinggojo465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinfryer479 rude boy

  • @alanwarren2861
    @alanwarren2861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Andrew. Very enjoyable video. I am the editor of the magazine of the B17 Steam Locomotive Trust so was pleased to see your number 2 pick! Can we use your video please for promotional purposes at our various meetings and exhibitions?

  • @pattonkesselring4247
    @pattonkesselring4247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I just point out that what Thompson lacked in his pacifics he made up for in his freight locomotives, and all his locomotives introduced some semblance of standardization to the LNER which they needed for World War II (even though they didn’t know it at the time) and gave them some modern freight locomotives that weren’t ridiculously complicated and were reliable.

  • @mrsaturngamingandstories
    @mrsaturngamingandstories 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    29:33 NO! NO!!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You do Edward Thompson a disservice, he was hand tied by finance and war time shortages. Yet he built the B1s, a superb mix traffic class.

    • @levidarling5107
      @levidarling5107 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True, but here’s where things start to get admittedly controversial. Thompson as stated scrapped an entire class of (admittedly only) 2 locomotives that were still pretty successful, and worsened some of Gresleys best locomotives. Please don’t get me wrong, what he went through in his life with loosing his wife to an incurable disease and having his house burn and force him to live in his office. Poor guy. but we all have to agree that what he did was not awesome. 😕

    • @johnmurray8428
      @johnmurray8428 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@levidarling5107 well you may be right, others will say you are wrong, I sit in the middle and look at his major achievement the B1s with admiration!

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@levidarling5107if you watch Railway Mania and Simon A.C. Martin’s podcast, you’ll know that the P1s were practically life expired and it was cheaper to just replace them.

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I WAS MISGUIDED BY MISINFORMATION AT THE TIME; just like with GTW 5629. The current version of me WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE SUCH DISSERVICE, and never would be doing so since some point in 2022 when I learned the truth of Thompson thanks to H.I.T.D. Had the 2022 version of me or the present written that script, you wouldn’t even be writing this comment since such versions of me would be much more neutral and sympathetic rather than biased.

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 don’t worry Andrew. We forgive you.

  • @neilsonthegreat
    @neilsonthegreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If I was edward Thomson I will just put the radial technology on the bogeys on the P2

    • @EuroScot2023
      @EuroScot2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The P2 does not have bogies. It has a leading pony truck and a trailing truck.

    • @neilsonthegreat
      @neilsonthegreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EuroScot2023 That's what i. Meant

    • @levidarling5107
      @levidarling5107 ปีที่แล้ว

      True that mate!

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I WAS MISGUIDED BY MISINFORMATION AT THE TIME; just like with GTW 5629. The current version of me WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE SUCH DISSERVICE because, and never would be doing so since some point in 2022 when I learned the truth of Thompson thanks to H.I.T.D. Had the 2022 version of me or the present written that script, such versions of me would be much more natural and sympathetic rather than biased.

  • @mihaelalaber2084
    @mihaelalaber2084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the work, keep making videos like this, perhaps do a least favorite if you want or maybe a top canadian loco list!

  • @tgeiii3554
    @tgeiii3554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To be fair, in defense of the A2/2's, even if they couldn't run the Edinburgh to Aberdeen, they could work more around the LNER network as in a railway podcast ft. Simon A.C. Martin, the availability figure for the ex-P2's were 57% during the war years and became 73% when they were rebuilt as the A2/2's. I admit, they are ugly, and yes, they did slip quite a bit, but engines do slip on occasion. I'm not saying I like the A2/2's more, but it's nice to point out that they weren't the worst things in the world.

  • @railstofails1396
    @railstofails1396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    didnt even mention Big Bertha, the 0-10-0, 4 cylinder, one of a kind locomotive of the Lickey incline

  • @EuroScot2023
    @EuroScot2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love to see a build of the Highland Railway 'River' Class of 4-6-0. Due to misunderstanding of the effect of hammer blow, the HR Civil Engineer would not accept them and they were sold to the Caledonian Railway which found them to be better than their own designs. After the formation of the LMS in 1923, they returned to the Highland line and saw out their career doing their original task with great success.

  • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
    @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed a forgot a few notable locomotives for both the list and honorable mentions.
    LNER J50s and J70s
    LMS Patriots
    LBSCR E3

  • @davidatkinson2167
    @davidatkinson2167 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re your comments there are some additional facts that may help you. The LB&SCR H1 and H2 locos are having a replica built at Sheffield Park on the Bluebell railway and re the P1 locos and the fireman's work, they were short valve travel engines and would be coal hungry. They were also hand fired whereas many larger engines in the USA had automatic stokers. The passenger version of them, the P2s were also coal guzzlers until Thompson rebuilt them.

  • @bigboy-tk8vq
    @bigboy-tk8vq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree wish flying scotsman was apple green again

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The cutter's torch is no match for a well designed engine. Even if their butchered and scrapped, their legacy will birth new life to continue on the name.
    Steam will forever live on, no matter what happens. And Gresley's extinct warriors are a testimony of that.

  • @Vextrix739
    @Vextrix739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When people know more and like the Lner hush hush locomotive than you
    "Angry LMS Fury noise"

  • @sinistregoth
    @sinistregoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Beyer Garratts of the LMS, and LNER, the biggest most powerful steam locomotives ever on the UK network!

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They need to recreate some.

  • @diesel10rules23
    @diesel10rules23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The way I see it steam is steam no matter where it's from

  • @Kinggojo465
    @Kinggojo465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip steam train that got scrapped you will be missed

  • @timspiers6225
    @timspiers6225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LMS Patriot
    Midlland 3F
    Midland/LMS 2P
    LNWR King George V
    LNWR Claughton
    LNWR Cauliflower
    L&Y Dreadnought
    6256 Sir William A Stanier FRS
    Stanier 2 cylinder 2-6-4 Tank
    Skye Bogie
    There's a few to be going on with.

  • @levidarling5107
    @levidarling5107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The song making fun of Thompsons A2’s, I was all like, “ahhahaha. *snort* haha. What in the hail?” You cracked me up bro! Not a huge fan of profanity, but I need to admit that that song was absolutely hilarious. But I why you may dislike the e2 tank engines, I can understand that, I personally like them. Good video by the way. I laughed my own guts out at that song! 🤣

  • @edwardrandolph74
    @edwardrandolph74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering how much those script writing skills had improved since making your American version, I’m not surprised that this list has more views than even part 1 of your American version

  • @samwilsamwil-pr6so
    @samwilsamwil-pr6so 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Believe me, most people want scotsman in apple green

  • @CPTRailfan
    @CPTRailfan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Northern had to be rebuilt, it was in horrible condition before Thompson saved it

  • @deanwilliams5466
    @deanwilliams5466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lms midland compound one is preserved. Lner j39

  • @epic_dudew1977
    @epic_dudew1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:45. Andrew: “I won’t include classes I hate.” ‘Shows picture of E2’
    Thomas: How dare you shame me and my dead brothers!

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’ll know why tomorrow.
      Oh, and I meant was that those wouldn't be on the list.

    • @levidarling5107
      @levidarling5107 ปีที่แล้ว

      *laughs* I don’t know about you guys, but I like the e2’s. however I will be nice to the class and say that L.B Billington was lazy about upgrading and improving the design, sadly making the class not very liked in real life. In fiction, very much loved though!

    • @harrisonofcolorado8886
      @harrisonofcolorado8886 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The E2s were useless in real life.
      Sorry to ruin your childhood.

  • @Thomasthestreamliner
    @Thomasthestreamliner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also liked what you did at 33:11, that was hilarious 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @kineticrail
    @kineticrail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A nice video. Only a tiny mistake in your honourable mentions you put the Midland compounds. No.1000 is preserved and own by the national railway museum

    • @zyancuerdo7392
      @zyancuerdo7392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was taking about the lms made 4-4-0 compounds not the midland railway 1000 class 4-4-0 compounds

    • @MiLewisProductions1226
      @MiLewisProductions1226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zyancuerdo7392 Yes, but the one he featured was of Midland Decent

    • @zyancuerdo7392
      @zyancuerdo7392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiLewisProductions1226 true but I'm talking bout the company the first batch was from the mr the second ones were made by the lms so same identity but different company built

  • @joshslater2426
    @joshslater2426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first 10 locos I wish weren’t scrapped (that don’t have an active new build project):
    10) GWR No. 111 “The Great Bear”
    9) LNWR DX Goods
    8) more Furness Railway locomotives
    7) LBSCR “Remembrance” tank
    6) GER Decapod
    5) LBSCR E2
    4) L&YR
    3) GCR Atlantic
    2) LNER “Hush Hush”
    1) GCR 9N

  • @azzifyy5988
    @azzifyy5988 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed the BR Standard Class 3. Withdrawn between 1964 and 1967 all 45 were scrapped. There is currently one under construction and after 18 years it's supposed to be ready around 2023/2024.

  • @MrVorpalsword
    @MrVorpalsword 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I THINK, British Railways didn't bother renumbering the GWR engines because their numbers were on the side of the cab as a cast brass plaque, whereas the other companies just painted them on and thus could be painted over easily.
    On pronunciation, this isn't exact, but you may have a chance of pronouncing the Welsh town Llangollen as Langothlen (though the 'L' is more complicated but I daresay your tongue has never been in the right shape in your mouth to replicate the real sound). Norwich is pronounced Noritch (in standard English) and Tottenham, Totnum .... Norwich City and Tottenham Hotspur are famous football teams, so Tottenham Hotspur can also just be pronounced Spurs for short. (can you see the brass football in the middle of the nameplates?) we say 'worse' instead of badder, btw I'm in Doncaster.

  • @EuroScot2023
    @EuroScot2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My feeling is that Thomson gets a worse press than is his due. He was CME during WW2 when the requirement was for solid reliable locomotives, which were easy to maintain. Thus his B1 was a straightforward 2 cylinder 4-6-0 which did its job as well as Stanier's Black Fives on the LMS.
    Gresley's 3 cylinder locos had always had a problem with the derived motion for the middle cylinder which needed careful setting up and maintenance and, even then, when the engine was stressed could result in wild variation in valve events for the middle cylinder.. The classic example was Mallard blowing up when setting the World Steam Speed Record.
    In wartime, with the 'Perfect Storm' of reduced maintenance, inexperienced engineers and heavily overloaded trains, the Gresley 3 cylinder locos all exhibited poorer availability than simpler designs. A decade later, when maintenance had improved under BR, optical lining of the frames and careful work on the derived motion for the centre cylinders pretty well sorted out the problem. It's also noticeable that when Peppercorn replaced Thomson for the final years of the LNER after the war he built his new 3 cylinder locos with 3 separate valve gears for the 3 cylinders and they were probably the very best of the 'Gresley' lineage. I believe that, had Gresley lived to see the LNER to its end he was a great enough engineer to admit the limitations of his design and that he'd have gone the same route as Peppercorn did.
    All that said, Thomson did have a bit of an irrational dislike of the Great Northern tradition which dominated the LNER (he began in the North Eastern Railway component)and this was probably the reason for his 'bastardisation' of the P2s when a simple 3rd valve gear would have done the trick more quickly and economically. His new build Pacifics were just as awkward and I think he possibly hit his limit in trying to design larger than a 4-6-0 Mixed Traffic loco.
    So on balance, I'd say at that Thomson was a good engineer but had human limitations which probably included a fair degree of jealousy towards the genius that was Gresley and quite likely Stanier as well. After all he didn't need to design a new loco in the B1. It would have saved time, effort and money to order a batch of Stanier's Black Fives.
    BTW - I put a bit of cash into both Tornado and the P2 builds. I'd recommend doing the same to anyone

  • @captainhuggyface6731
    @captainhuggyface6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually the very first K2s which werent built for the furness railway were sent to the netherlands were one survives

    • @RWSfan2024
      @RWSfan2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, there’s 1 STILL AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @captainhuggyface6731
      @captainhuggyface6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe, the only differents I can see from the 2, is the dutch one looks different and has westinghouse pump

  • @onetrackmind3558
    @onetrackmind3558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do least favorite LNER tank/tender engines. Favorite LNER tank/tender engines.

  • @dalekinthewater4708
    @dalekinthewater4708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's see...
    LBSC L1
    SR Remembrance Class
    LSWR A12 Jubilee
    LNWR G2A
    GER D16

  • @TheGreatWesternExpress
    @TheGreatWesternExpress ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *edwards theme ends*

  • @reesochacon1448
    @reesochacon1448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually have a series called Scrapped Steam Locos of Britain, where I cover extinct classes. The segment on the Churchward Counties is actually not that different from Episode Three of my series.

    • @FeatherWings78
      @FeatherWings78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really?

    • @reesochacon1448
      @reesochacon1448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FeatherWings78 Indeed.

    • @FeatherWings78
      @FeatherWings78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reesochacon1448 where is the vid

    • @reesochacon1448
      @reesochacon1448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FeatherWings78 Right here. th-cam.com/video/-SnT0p6VvGg/w-d-xo.html Also, the sprite work is a bit shoddy, but that was just because I was only just starting out with sprite-making.

    • @FeatherWings78
      @FeatherWings78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reesochacon1448 I see.

  • @zorantrivic4868
    @zorantrivic4868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant wait for 2007 to be finished

  • @TheSudrianTerrier653
    @TheSudrianTerrier653 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Rebuild May of Ruined the P2s Cosmetically, But in Performance, they Were actually better, some of Britain's most powerful pacifics.

  • @generalsquirrel9548
    @generalsquirrel9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man if im ever rich i will bring back these beauty's from the death.

  • @dylangranger9129
    @dylangranger9129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a video on Australian Steam locomotives please

  • @robbieprichard9726
    @robbieprichard9726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the claud hamilton engines are the basis for molly in thomas the tank engine

    • @nathandioza7821
      @nathandioza7821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Joshua W56 Yeah, Don't get your hopes up dude...

  • @edwinlamont4187
    @edwinlamont4187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who would ever have guessed that you are an LNER and Gresley man! Glade to have you in the club.

  • @connorflaherty175
    @connorflaherty175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It should be noted that the princess anne locomotive’s destruction is what led to the creation of BR 71000 Duke of Gloucester.

  • @SmudgeThomas
    @SmudgeThomas ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see an American appreciating the Clauds. Although no judgement for not realising you had a pic of the Royal train in the sequence.

  • @peteshaw1461
    @peteshaw1461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the Caledonian Cardean?

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brits will resent this vid.

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah,
      This is one of my older videos, and thus made back when I was still a complete noob. So it’s no surprise this vid is bad even to me

  • @steamtechnicolor461
    @steamtechnicolor461 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see ten wheeler E class steam up again.

  • @meat19820
    @meat19820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your video on TH-cam, and thought it was a Great one. well done on your pronunciations, although Llangollen was funny, I'm sure the Welsh pronounce it "klan-goff-len" or something like that. please could you do a video on your top 10 favourite preserved UK steam locos. From an Americans paint of view, I'd find that interesting. 👍

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:45 - Norwich is pronounced NOR-rich and Tottenham is TOT-num

  • @NSB463
    @NSB463 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, your deffo getting better at talking. Just as a side note, its Fane of Fife, not Fane of Fire for 2005

  • @andrewcraig-bennett3659
    @andrewcraig-bennett3659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for including the Claud Hamiltons, but there were some other Great Eastern classes. Can I propose the Adam’s C8 class 4-4-0 and the Holden class P43 4-2-2? Oh, and of course the Decapod!

  • @robertwilloughby8050
    @robertwilloughby8050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try the L&YR Class 8 Dreadnought 4-6-0's, the GCR 9Q Colliers Friend 4-6-0's, the NER V/V09 4-4-2's, LNER (actually NER) B16 4-6-0's, GWR 6800 Granges 4-6-0's, LMS Fowler Tea Kettle 2-6-2T's, SR Class N15X 4-6-0's and LSWR Class T14 Paddleboxes 4-6-0's

  • @Jetman-xf5lr
    @Jetman-xf5lr ปีที่แล้ว

    I was surprised not to hear the non/rebuilt patriots

  • @lucasquintanilla1673
    @lucasquintanilla1673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing that I believe would’ve been a good honorable mention would be the A1 class which was an LNER design but was not produced until the merger into British rail in 1948. The reason that it would’ve been only an honorable mention rather than an actual entry would be because since the year 2008 A new locomotive of the class named “tornado” after the Gulf war air jet bomber of the same name has been in use after being built in the 1990s and most of the 2000s.

  • @LehrerFamilyWest
    @LehrerFamilyWest 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I could have a a2/2 preserved but not in p2 form I would take the offer

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:40 - the Harrow and Wealdstone crash killed 112 and injured 340, not the other way around.

  • @brianwillson9567
    @brianwillson9567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thomason’s Pacifics we’re just so goddam ugly. At least mr Peppercorn put the cylinders back in the right place.

  • @ThreeRiversfan41
    @ThreeRiversfan41 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Furnace Railroad k2s look exactly like Edward from T&F

  • @younubs-1266
    @younubs-1266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely list but you were a bit harsh on Thompson.
    1) When rebuilt the A2/2 could do what the P2 can but more efficiently since the P2s only had a sum around 40% reliability (mostly because of the crankpin problems you failed to mention) but compared that to the A2/2's which had 70% reliability
    2) Also the A2's COULD run on the Edinburg mainline and did it better then in their Gresley form.
    3) The piston positioning was made for more easier maintenance since it was a wartime era. Also the valve gear change was not the cause of slipping but because of the messed up weight destribution caused by the conversion from Mikados to Pacifics. And speaking about slipping, it was just common for Pacifics even the A1's slipped and cracked their frames in service but their not considered bad locos.
    4) Thompson modifying the P2s to be better engines couldn't be possible cause of the wartime restrictions holding back passenger engine development.
    5) As for P1's they were two nonefficient locomotive's in a system with more than suitable engines that can do their work so keeping them on, in a wartime conditions I might add, wouldn't be the most practical idea.
    I love the passion but please don't spread miss information and doing the opposite of what u claim to be trying to do with these videos.

  • @allstufftrainssa3618
    @allstufftrainssa3618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm planning on doing Australia is anyone else keen

  • @lukecona2749
    @lukecona2749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think another engine on this list should be the LMS Patriot 4-6-0s

  • @Simerali
    @Simerali 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    clan-goth-luhn is Llangollen (It's in Wales, a double L is a sort of c sound in Welsh)

  • @colbysands2188
    @colbysands2188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    British us and canida steamers are my favorite

  • @keatonendler8202
    @keatonendler8202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand not putting the LBSC E2 on the list, as there were some problems that were never fixed before they were scrapped.

  • @Stephenkiernanbackup
    @Stephenkiernanbackup 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do a top 10 extinct Australian steam locomotives

  • @robertwilloughby8050
    @robertwilloughby8050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you mention the L&Y Class 8 4-6-0's? The Dreadnoughts were terrible in their earliest form (very heavy on coal, and a swine to keep steam tight) but were much improved by rebuilding and the later builds were much better, still a little heavy on coal and a bit notorious for vibration, but still decent engines who were "masters of their work" to quote a chap called Eric Marshall.

  • @slowtony2
    @slowtony2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many of these were out of service before 1960. I know that in (I think) 1962 I saw a classic 2-4-0 of some kind in apple green livery sitting in steam on a track inside a London passenger shed. It was a storybook moment and a blessing. At least one of the old girls lived long enough for me to see her.

    • @robertwilloughby8050
      @robertwilloughby8050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That might have been one of the T19 (LNER E4's) that ran mainly on the line from Colchester to Sudbury. One was supposed to be preserved, but was "lost" and by the time they knew where it was, it was too late.

    • @justanotherpersononyoutube7130
      @justanotherpersononyoutube7130 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robertwilloughby8050One of the E4s is preserved.
      It's part of the National Collection and is currently on static display at the Bressingham Steam Gardens.

  • @danielpizzey212
    @danielpizzey212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you please do top 10 extinct Australian steam locomotives

  • @mrcrocker2638
    @mrcrocker2638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new night owl is being built by the great Western society at didcot which is now called didcot railway center

  • @TheStevewhelan
    @TheStevewhelan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    imagine saying "clangocklen" while clearing your throat and you'll almost be there for the first "LL" in "LLangollen" and then let the spittle rumble on for the second "LL" and... well.... Welsh is tricksy for the English, let alone ... no! not gonna say "You Yanky...." Noooo! ;-) (Nice vid btw :) )

    • @TheStevewhelan
      @TheStevewhelan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh.. and "Norwich" is pronounced "Norich" and "Tottenham" is "Totnam" - yeah I know... Just don't get me started on "Leicester" ;-) (time to put the glass down and leave the bar ;-) )

    • @TheStevewhelan
      @TheStevewhelan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Bedenoch" = "Bad-en-nock" - and my fave has to be the Q1.. cos they are so ugly they are beutiful!!!

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very excellent and most enjoyable. I can't disagree with any of the inclusions and almost agree about Thompson - definitely as far as 1471 and P2's are concerned.
    He did redeem himself to a large extent with the B1 class and arguably with the rebuilt B17 to B2, which used to haunt my local line. Having come from a maintenance specialisation, he detested the complication of the Gresley conjugated valve gear for 3-cylinders.
    Anyway, great video: thanks.

  • @simaogomes8077
    @simaogomes8077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was hoping for a LB&SCR E2

    • @levidarling5107
      @levidarling5107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, same. 😕 Oh well, at least you and I love and cherish them thanks to Thomas. Hey! If one were to be rebuilt, how about the club can ensure that these guys are better runners to make these guys popular in real life?! 😃

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch my E2 episode of DOA and you'll find out why I didn't include them

  • @matthewshields214
    @matthewshields214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:02
    Huh!!
    22:05
    2860 is alive and well, hurray

  • @johnbradshaw7525
    @johnbradshaw7525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Great Western Society is making a new build County Class 4-6-0 No. 1014 "County of Glamorgan at the Didcot Railway Centre.

  • @TKSP4449
    @TKSP4449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two locomotives from the UK for me would be the LBSCR L Class 4-6-4 'Brighton Baltics' and the GWR 3031 Class 4-2-2s (AKA the Dean Singles).

  • @IanCotter
    @IanCotter ปีที่แล้ว

    The Midland/LMS 2P 4-4-0 is a sad gap in the steam roster in the uk.

  • @OldEngine_25
    @OldEngine_25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:08 THIS ENGINE WAS THE FLYING SCOTSMAN?!?!?!?!

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was just assigned to the “Flying Scotsman” train. You’ve confused it with the LNER Pacific of the same nane

  • @TheYardLimit
    @TheYardLimit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have included the LBSCR D tanks and the LSWR Ilfracombe Goods 0-6-0s. Both would be practical smaller locos for a heritage railway. Both at points in their lives worked alongside the ubiquitous A1x Terriers. The D tanks almost lived long enough to likely be preserved, but the Ilfracombes were gone before WWII iirc.

  • @LNERStudios
    @LNERStudios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:44 while showing the SMALL boiler version

    • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
      @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was an idiot back then when it came to making these video’s because I was inexperienced

  • @kevwebb2637
    @kevwebb2637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There were attempts that the U.K. in the early railroad days to import two copies of the Cumberland Valley railroad Pioneer. The ship that was shipping the to copies sunk in route due to a storm. My only favorite British built is the LNWR Precedent class. Other than that, I prefer the American builts like the S100 & S160 including the Baldwin and Alco trench locomotives.

  • @Duncan_official456
    @Duncan_official456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow Edward is at the beginning yay

  • @DaiElsan
    @DaiElsan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hereford - Herri-ford.. Llangollen, that's a tricky one. Ll is a Welsh letter and has a special pronunciation. It's not something I can write about you have to watch it and hear it being pronounced. A good effort on your part though.

  • @madalheidis
    @madalheidis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Southern K1, and the Ks before them, they were notoriously unstable at speed, especially on the Southern's under-par trackwork, and keeping any of them around was an accident waiting to happen. The singular K1 was rebuilt into the U1 prototype after the Sevenoaks accident where K class A800 River Cray derailed. All-in-all, I say it was a good thing the SR K1 went extinct. However, the U1s also did not survive, and that is the point I say was wrong. However, the two-cylinder variant, the U class, has had four preserved examples, including one I've seen in person.

  • @raymondbutcher4579
    @raymondbutcher4579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the A2/3 especially ET itself they were fast and powerful and way better than the P2

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the honorable mentions the LMS 4-4-0 4 cylinder compounds are mentioned, however this is not an extinct class.
    One of them, No.1000 is preserved.
    Which are extinct are the very similar looking 2P's, they only differ in not having outside cylinders, they were a lighter less powerful version.
    Also, the very first pic of the Furness railway K2 isn't a K2, it's a Dutch locomotive of the Rhine Railway Company serie 101-109, later after the grouping of companies in 1924 Dutch Railways 1600 class.
    Many Dutch locomotives had a very British appearance.

  • @polypoly7966
    @polypoly7966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    no mention of two (!) P2 new build projects?

  • @closed9446
    @closed9446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbh though, Edwards's basis K2 is hideous. Cuz it looks too dinky if in real life.
    Also edward was the 1st official character created by the god, wilbert awdry.

    • @brotato473
      @brotato473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best thomas character edward the old kind engine

  • @rythm5470
    @rythm5470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a note, the first pic you used for the Furness K2 isnt a Furness K2, but an NS 1600
    Also one of the two P2s is probably not gonna happen, they've been saying they'll build it for years, the man after it doesnt know what he's doing, they have raised barely any funds etc

  • @tommcglone2867
    @tommcglone2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Gresley V3s deserve the new build treatment. The V3s were the most powerful tank engines ever built in Britain. As a diehard LMS fanatic who gets an erection on the sight of a Black 5, CAN SOME GROUP FORM AND MAKE A PLAN TO BRING BACK THE V3s!?! Because although they are LNER East Coast steaming scrap iron they have a place in history regardless

  • @TegusChromis
    @TegusChromis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My objection to a lot of the choices are that they were one offs (or at best there were a handful of examples built) and were frequently failures.
    I would suggest that the criteria for inclusion should include how many were built and how long they lasted. I would suggest by my criteria the most important missing locomotive is the Johnson class 2 0-6-0 of which there were 935 built and were in service from 1875 to 1964. And, in addition, IMHO, were the best looking inside cylinder 0-6-0s

  • @evanf1293
    @evanf1293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:57 which is now retired. 11:39 actually 112 people were killed, not 340. 11:50 actually some of its parts after being scrapped were used on BR standard class 8 71000 the duke of Gloucester.

  • @petergrossett6763
    @petergrossett6763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GWR Grange Class!!!!
    J 38 0-6-0 Gresley’s first LNER design.

  • @AbeTheBabe6233
    @AbeTheBabe6233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    who knows about the early retirement of 60009 union of soth africa due to a boiler leak?

  • @tigleafmidny1683
    @tigleafmidny1683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about canadian locomotives since you briefly mentioned them in the video