High Protein Diets & Kidney Function
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Any chance we could get these studies linked in the description? Please and thanks.
here you go mate- www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6236074/
@@dazzybizzle Would love to see a real study with real high protein diet results. as far as i see this study considered high protein diet to be much lower than what people consider a high protein diet. 1.5g / kg means a 200lb man would eat around 135g protein a day when people these days that follow a bodybuilding diet would usually eat 200g or more.
@@hatilmatogan is 4.4 g/kg high enough? pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24834017/
@@justincollins2804 you people are doing god's work, thanks everyone
@@justincollins2804 this study does not talk about protein and kidney fonction.
Got my bloodwork done. Creatinine and BUN were high.
Doc asked me if I eat high protein for training, I told him yes.
Doc said aiite don't worry too much, just drink more water.
I have a good Doctor.
what was your gfr reading. mine was 57 so i was concerned
Some not-so-educated doctors will say dont eat high rich protein food
My egfr is 45
All these eGFR numbers under 60 are technically stage 1 chronic kidney disease. If you don’t believe it, see a nephrologist and get a kidney ultrasound. If you guys continue with this diet and then excessive amount of protein, you will be in dialysis
All these carnivore doctors call all blood work that is bad, on their diet, an invalid test. For example crazy high total cholesterol, crazy high LDL, low eGFR, high BUN, high creatine, are all just fine per TH-cam carnivore docs. Apparently all doctors in the world are wrong and none of these numbers have any meaning
This is the type of info that many in gen pop (and seasoned lifters) need to listen thoroughly. Again and again .
Well spoken , with no technical jargon .
Thanks Layne 💪⚡
My doc is always on my case about my higher nitrogen levels and telling me to back off the protein. Thanks for this breakdown Layne!
Remember the normal range is based around the average American who eats too little protein.
Americans eat a shitload of protein, they can’t spend 1 meal without eating meat. Love the way people on this diet love to explain away terrible numbers, like high LDL, high BUN, high Creatine and really low eGFR,
Which if under 60 coincides with chronic kidney disease. It’s insane
They need to do Studies with ppl who eat 150grams and above.
Because no body builder eats 100 gram they eat more like 150 gram to 225grams of protein per day
Many carnivores eat 1.5 to three pounds of meat a day and have maintained that diet 10-12 years.
Heavy weightlifting, high protein diet and daily creatine will definitely elevate your creatinine.
I love your videos, you're the guy but you have to do something about that vibrant cyan background.
I've had a lot of people ask me about creatine and if it's bad for your kidneys.
Very true Layne!!! Great video. I donated a kidney to my uncle in 2008. Started competing in 2011 against the doctors suggestion as they were "concerned" that 1g per lb of bodyweight was too much. It's 2020 and I'm fine. I get my kidney checked annually just to be sure. Get your protein in y'all.👍🏽
Are you still alive and well 3y later xD
@@dolpiff Unfortunately not.
@@Asdasty wow really you knew her? Was the kidney part of the reason she passed? Man I guess that gives a stark counterpoint to that video
@@dolpiff No, it was a joke. I should have probably made it more obvious by adding some sarcasm or something.
If she really is dead then...that would be fucked up.
Thanks, Layne. My TRT doc keeps lecturing me on my high creatinine levels. This was informative.
mine too. did you figure out how to fix it??
Use less supplements. Take a break on the creatine. Creatinine and creatine are different but I’d also suggest eating a diet with no seed oils/sugar and lower carb intake.
My BUN was 17 three years ago and Creatinine was 1.1. Was doing a 5x5 workout 3 days a week but on a fairly high carb diet. Last April BUN was 21. At that point I had just started a low carb diet and added in more cardio to my weekly exercise. 3 mos later my BUN increased to 27 and Creatinine was 1.2. At that point i went full Carnivore with 16:8 IF. After 4 months of Carnivore, my BUN was at 31 and creatinine was 1.21 which determined an eGFR of 65. Was worried about my kidneys until watching this video and some of the comments. Good to know others who lift and consume a lot of protein have high BUN numbers as well.
How is your creatinine and BUN? Decreased?
If he still on this diet, BUN has increased and eGFR has dropped even lower
My urologist told me to stop protein powder (30gr/day) and creatine (3gr/day) intake when I had erectile dysfunction. My bloodwork was perfect and I was eating a healthy/balanced diet. He told me that the Ritalin and clonazepam I took at the time wasn't the problem. :/
These kind of MDs discourage me to seek help when it's needed.
Protien powder caused ed?
@@tonytonytv3736 No it did not. In the end, it turned out that middle of the range test levels were not enough for my body to function properly in many aspects.
@@robertvandeneijk1284 what did u do?
@@tonytonytv3736 Find a different MD. An Internist helped me out great.
But what if your urine is foamy? Could that happen if you're diet is too high in protein due to your workout schedule? I've done some research on the internet and foamy urine is considered to be a sign of kidney disease, but nothing is said about high-protein diets like in bodybuilding, most articles just refer to average people who don't lift. Does anyone know?
Foamy urine could mean Kidney problems. Get it checked out.
@@Bella4us7 Hi! Thanks for answering even after 2 years. Got it checked out by then and nothing was found. For the record, my nephrologist said to me from day 1 that foamy urine suggests NOTHING itself and most of the time it isn't related to kidney disease, which proved to be true for me too.
@scoopdg I've had foamy urine on and off my entire life. Heck, I remember as a child peeing in the toilet and trying to fill the entire bowl with bubbles lol
You mentioned that when high protein eaters had their "actual kidney function tested", their high Urera nitrogen and Creatinine proved to be poor indicators for them and that their kidney function was fine. Can you please specify which kidney function test you were talking about? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
@mikebreler9724 the kidney function test is probably cystatin-C
My BUN/creat was higher (abnormal) range a couple years ago (I lifted 6 days a week at the time id say mod-high intensity body building style), and my PCP took precaution about my abnormal levels. He referred me to a nephrologist even, and from there told me to stop working out for 3 weeks (lol). All I did was walk my dog. Guess what, 3 weeks later, new blood work, and my bun/creat were within normal limits. I’m sure most doctors just do protocol measures because if I really did have kidney disease I and they saw my blood work and didn’t refer me/do something about it, could be negligence ?
same boat. kidney function for me fluctuates directly with fluid intake (ie GFR low), protein intake, etc. Not too concerned
I’ve been really concerned about my kidney function. The numbers suggest I have stage 2 kidney disease but everything seems to function just fine. GFR is a bit low and BUN/CRE is high. My doctor says don’t worry about it and hasn’t referred me to a specialist. I hope it’s all just a result of working out 5 days a week and eating lots of protein
Higher than normal levels of blood of creatinine should not be dismissed. While I appreciate the research he is sharing, higher protein intake increases the glomerular filtration rate and some research, although mixed, shows a decline in renal function over time with high protein diets. Normal blood creatinine should be about 1. If it’s over 1.2, I would monitor and not dismiss. I would personally reduce protein intake if my creatinine was high.
Most people on this chat are reporting double digit numbers for creatine, crazy high BUN numbers and eGFR numbers below 60, which is insane, because under 60 is technically chronic kidney disease.
I used to consume 150g protein per day and my GFR was 50. Since reducing to 90g per day my GFR is now 72. I actually feel better
My eGFR is now 61… steadily declining over the last couple years as I’ve been on a high protein diet. Super high Creatinine & BUN. Not sure I should stay on this high protein diet.
Isn’t that in the normal range
What the doctor tell you to do, do you have any problem at your kidneys?
Layne has a little stain on his red shirt. Almost vertically parallel to his mic. I wonder if it was whey protein? Good video.
Does this same logic extent to Creatine consumption? I’ve been taking roughly 5grams a day for almost 2 years and was wondering if it could be putting extra stress on the old kidneys..
When I was 26yrs old, I was taking creatine consistently, my water consumption was very low, I didn’t even take a water bottle to the gym plus I was a coffee drinker. One night I started shaking and a little later had blood in my urine and it hurt like hell. The doc said I had kidney stones so I had to stop taking creatine for a while and was told to cycle it, 2 months on 1 month off. I’ve never had a problem with kidney stones again, upped my water intake and I only take creatine 3 months out the year when I bulk.
Can you comment on high protein in patients with early kidney damage. I have small amounts of protein in my urine.
I did carnivore for 80 days, and about a month was the lion diet. I ate nothing but 65/35 burger. The carnivore diet did great things for me. Lost some weight I could never lose, got rid if inflammation in my knees, slept better as well. However, I started to have more and more difficulties with bowel movements (even though I was drinking plenty of water, high fat, and just the right amount of salt. Finally one morning, day 80, I could not squeeze out a poop. It was pretty scary feeling. Not that I had constipation, it just was there, but not willing to come through the door. lol
Right then and there I decided we were going to do some oatmeal, and within 2 hours, things were rolling very well. I encourage everyone who can remain on the diet to keep at it. Another thing, however, is pay attention to if you feel any kidney pains, or severe thirst. Lots of protein is harder for the kidneys to process and high fat slows down digestion. I did a dot physical yesterday, and they found blood in my urine. Since then, I've backed off from 2 lbs of burger a day, to just eggs for now. Then when I do reintroduce beef, it will probably be only 150g a day.
I was on the carnivore diet for almost 3 months everything they claim about it is awful for your kidneys. I now wonder if being on it is what brought out the kidney stones that followed by massive nonstop blood clots? If it did it saved my life. I would of never known about the 4.7cm tumor on my left kidney. I felt better on the all meat diet than ever. Now I am sooo confused??? I am so paranoid to get back on it. I just have no clue what to believe. I meet with the immunotherapy doctor today I am terrified of that stuff too. I do not trust anything. I have read the lobbyists who promote all the food give millions to all the cancer groups that promote the opposite when actually red meat is the very best thing for you. I am going to continue to research and pray to know what to believe. On 11/22/2023 I had a radical nephrectomy.
I have CKD 3 and have been on a mostly Carnivore diet for about 6 weeks. Just had lipid profile done. All of my numbers are in the normal range. except I had a high Cholesterol of 240, with HDL being 84. Does anyone have a similar experience?
Hdl is good cholesterol,we need to concern about ldl
@SilentDiablo Excellent results. GFR was 55, now 62. Check out Dr. Ken Berry on TH-cam.
@SilentDiablo Also, Dr. Eric Berg
@Scott Frankel any update? What is the protein limit for a CKD stage 2 ?
Did you spillprotein on carnivore? I mean buble urine or whatever?
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If you see Dr. Richard Bernstein Who is a type one diabetic and wrote the book called “diabetes solution, “ he talks about kidneys and protein. The only place that he says protein may help is in prolonging the Life of the kidneys when they are nearly gone at 15% function. He says that may give the kidneys another six months, but don’t quote me. I study under him because I’m a type one diabetic. I’m sure that he said this but I’m not sure of the percentage of value stated but I believe it was 15% of kidney function. Then he just said to cut back on proteins, not to eliminate them entirely. No relation on kidneys otherwise.
considering the AJKD says otherwise for CKD patients I would really like the sources you are mentioning here.
Carnivore diet cured stagev5 down to stage 1
This is great news for my dog that had cysteine stones …always trying to prevent more
Ladies and gentlemen, just because there’s little study, whether if protein affects the kidneys, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t affect them! And that’s not your queue to basically leave the doctors office saying “ well he said there’s no proof that the protein is affecting my kidneys, so I’m just gonna ignore it and keep on doing what I’m doing” lol! The reason why there’s little study on it is because there’s not enough people that are complaining about the symptoms that’s alerting doctors to experiment whether protein powders are damaging the kidneys. Because remember the protein powders, and all those supplements “ARE NOT” FDA approved. And the reason why we go against the doctors advice…is simply because we don’t want to hear anything that’s gonna make a stop what we’re doing! I’m a bodybuilder and I weigh 250 pounds all muscle and I went to my kidney specialist and I was just diagnosed with stage two chronic kidney disease! And I was talking about the protein, I showed him my jug of protein that I was taking and 80% of it had good stuff in it however what we don’t know is that there’s a lot of stuff in protein powders that damage kidneys! We as bodybuilders don’t wanna hear this though! But when my kidney doctor said the word “dialysis”….. and I was already feeling pain or pressure in my back. Y’all better slow your behinds down. And also remember high blood pressure affects your kidneys. So be careful.
I wouldn't describe 1.5 g protein per kg bodyweight as high.
All i would say is, don't be a moron and eat excessive amounts of protein. Even if you're "healthy" no one really knows the long term effects.
1.5g per kg is not very high. I eat that. No visible signs. Don't do some moronic nonsense like 3 - 4g per kg. No benefits.
Hypertrophy also is more a function of training than consumption of protein anyways.
Stu Phillips has done a podcast and 1g or 1.2g per pound is about the most we can absorb anyway.
@biolayne I have decided to donate my kidney to my best friend.
But I do train martial arts and consume a very high protein diet. I wonder how much it will affect my remaining kidney?
What is concerned a high protein diet
Could high protein diet lead to high levels of uric acids? What food cause uric acids?
What’s the right amount of protein for an individual for muscle building ?(female)
Lol you should go for a carnivore diet 😅
What if a person has foamy urine due to a high protein diet? What can be the causes?
There NO peer reviewed, scientific studies stating that high protein diets have adverse effects on the kidneys. Excessive carbs however are the kidney killers. Thanks for the video and your facts on Stu Philips meta-analysis. Good work
What are you talking about? There’s like thousands of papers, all peer reviewed and reviews of reviews on the topic of high protein diets and kidney function, which is why the standard of care in chronic kidney failure is to decrease protein intake
A little biochem 101: Nitrogen is not found in carbohydrates. It’s only found in amino acids which are building blocks of proteins. High intake of protein is what increases the BUN ratio
You have the exact same stain on your shirt as in the last video 😋
So glad I saw this video. My doctor scared me away from creatine because my creatinine levels were a little higher than normal. Made me believe creatine use was actually harming my kidneys 🤦🏼♂️
You are correct.
I tried increasing protein intake to 1g/lb of body weight to support training and recomposition. I weigh 275lbs. I gave myself gout within 2-3 weeks.
Love the videos and your knowledge.. thx 💪🏽💪🏽
I’m so confused. I’ve just had my bloods done. And my level was 1.4 and as a female it’s considered high. I weight lift regularly and usually have about 100g-130g protein a day. Apparently the protein and muscle causes more creatine levels ? I don’t know if I need to cut down or what?
Thank you for this! I've heard the high protein/kidney disease BS from many non-bodybuilder people in my life and now I can just refer them to this video. I do that with a lot of the topics covered in your videos :)
most people in the general population eat this amount without knowing it. Yet there is no incidence of widespread kidney disease that is not caused by diabetes. It truly is pretty overblown.
@@xxdrowssapxx1 exactly. It's not really that hard to consume the right amount of protein if you're eating healthy. You'd have to be chugging protein shakes all day in order to over consume and going out of your way not to in order to underconsume
But unfortunately
Its not only about kidney problem. Yeah if thats nothing to do with kidney failure but imagine heart disease and stroke? Or diabetes and high blood pressure? Find out the studies behind all of these
kidney needs carbohydrates?
No😅
Good information. However, if you're going to tape may I suggest putting on a clean shirt. It's very distracting.
I have foam in my urine I have been healthy most of my life I'm 21 and working out this is called proteinuria and this indicates that I have some lvl of inflammation in my kidneys in the albumin protein
Any update? Do you have CKD?
Then did you improve with carnivore?
No I just eat normally protein good fats and carbs come from fruits and veggies and rarely sourdough bread
Another of those "correlation does not equal causation".
Unfortunately a good percentage of the population does not understand this concept.
I've seen this time and time again. I take lithium orotate for bipolar disorder. The experts are saying people need about 1mg of elemental lithium per day. I can tolerate up to 30mg. Why? Because the kidney issues arise when you have more "stuff" to filter in general. If you are using it up, then there's nothing to filter. As someone with bipolar, I use every bit of it up. Otherwise I SHOULD see rapidly declining kidney function by now, but I have none. In fact, my egfr has slowly improved with lithium orotate as it has cut out my sugar cravings, and many other lifestyle habits have been more effective, so drinking more water too, eating more animal protein actually, stuff like that.
Kidney problems come from too many crystals in the urine anyways. Those are usually oxalate and uric acid stones, from oxalate dumping and too much sugar.
Of course taking massive doses of lithium CARBONATE made my egfr tank back when they had me on the not bioavailable form of lithium. I take other sups to make lithium orotate more effective and those can give cloudy urine. Specifically glycine and taurine seem to be doing it. I stopped taking them and the problem went away. I likely will not continue taking them.
It's extremely bad form to claim hundreds of studies support what you're saying and yet not linking to any of them.
Great information, thank you!
Will liver numbers also be elevated in lifters Layne? Just curious as to if those numbers trend higher like renal results or if it’s just strictly individual
I did the booty workout builder for 4 weeks, I’m still working on it. But I’ve gained significant strength in my legs and back and my back pain has gone away. I love layne Norton
Very glad to hear it.. protein is so good for you.
Another great topic 🥳
How did your clients get their kidney function tested besides creatinine and BUN?
The best is to run a Cystatin C test...sorry Im 2 years late to answer lol
@@martingimenez339 And what Cystatin C should supposed to show?
What about 150g of egg 🥚 whites and 150g of lean meet. I lost a kidney at 34 and now 37. I was consuming 300 grams a day. I am 330 pounds now I was told not to consume that much and got overweight.
Seems like weightlifters/atheletes would use up more protein than sedentary people. Hence less stress on kidneys.
Always great information. I know this is an old video and may not get an answer. When it comes to mod high blood levels of Creatinine 1.31 and BUN 26 on high protein diet with creatine as well. My doc wants me to quit creatine due to these numbers.
Another decades long medical recommendation turned out to be wrong? Imagine my shock
Is 1lb per lean body mass god enough to optimize protein synthesis and become in an anabolic state and start building muscle?
U could do as low as 0.5 lb per body mass and you’ll still be in an anabolic state
yes
That's the optimal amount. Any more than that is just pointless and won't contrivute any more to building muscle
I have high bun, but should I get my kidney function tested?
Great video very informative. Thank you.
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Awesome content as always this guy helps us a lot and gives us the truth!
Does this also pertain to kidney stones? Dietitians running around saying a good rule of thumb is to aim for 0.8-1.0 grams of protein per kilogram body weight per day.
For example, a person who weighs 175 pounds (79.5 kilograms) needs about 64-80 grams of protein per day. As a fitness nut I've been consuming 25gx6 a day = 150 grams a day
Not only are they saying to limit protein intake, but they recommend replacing animal protein with other choices and most certainly NOT protein powders. So confused. Please help
fish and egg whites
Thanks for the video. I wonder what are the long-term effect of a high creatinine level. It is still a metabolic by-product that is supposed to stay low no?
Thank you I’m sharing
Whey protein in my coffee, taste so good............
Hi I am a 52 year old woman , 5'6", 135 lbs, who does a HIT workout 4 times a week and runs once a week, and for many years have eaten a low carb, low sugar and high protein diet. I am getting blood test results with 55mg/l Calcium in the urine, high levels of creatinine in my urine (464mg/l), 12.90mg/L creatinine in my blood, and uric acid at 65mg/l in the blood as well. My thyroid is good, my cholesterol is good with a ratio of 2.3, my insulin levels are fine. My eGFR was borderline normal. The doctors and blood work are indicating stage 3 kidney disease. I feel healthy, strong, look fit, and I am totally shocked and confused!!! Should a keto diet be stopped? Any suggestions how to care nutritionally for these results? Any suggestions of a lab that offers Cystatin C testing in place of eGFR?
What was the ending of this? I am in the same situation, M27, 5-6 days in the gym, my creatinine level was 1.21 it was supposed to be 1.20, my eGFR was 84 and the doctor recommended a CT after an ultrasound I did, because he was saying something weird at my kidneys... like it was a disease or something.
@@Mr-Nobody-j2mwhat did the USG say?
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I’m 50. High protein Keto since I was 16. Creatine. Lift heavy. HIIT. Cut like Rambo. Kidneys work great. I still rep 315 for 10+ on the squat rack. Never taken Testosterone. Still have 600+ test levels in blood tests with 1%+ bioavailable.
What’s you eGFR, BUN and creatine? Are they within normal range?
@@mariaespiritu9512 eGFR is normal. Bun is high. Creatine is Normal range. I get blood work monthly. “Normal Range” is based on what the masses were in the 1970s
For the algorithm 👏👏👏🤙💪🤟🤓🥳😎
thank you man and I also take high protein diet and my urea is little bit high
For the algorithm 👏👏👏🤙💪🤟🤓🥳😎
Non Sequitur, can soy be substituted for chicken as a protein source? And is it harmful in the long run?
I’d be interested to see a few studies conducted on long term extremely high protein intake. I personally consume 70%+ of my calories from protein daily (mainly in the form of whey isolate) because I love the taste
70% and mostly in whey? You must be constipated as hell :p
@@stevenbaeyens2652 A little haha... I do eat my fair share of fruits and vegetables still, it's fats that I don't really eat much of (I'm aware it's not very healthy though)
This was a good piece of information. I'm still following because time to time I find something very useful.
My urea levels increased and now my mum is telling me to stop my protein drinks and have more water 😭😭 I'm fine with the water bit, but don't want to reduce my protein intake; especially after progress made in the gym.
How did u reduce it
Is cyststin c the marker to check to make sure?
High carbs & sugar are far worse
Low carb diet helps the kidney, not low protein. Protein is vital for human health, eliminate carbohydrates. Carbs are the only of the 3 that you do not need, which just tells you that you need protein and fat, and not carbs.
Video was clear, and I understand what it conveys but still I have a question. In some of chubbyemu videos, some cases cause muscle to deteriorate and their proteins end up clogging/shutting down kidneys. Assuming said kidney it's self is healthy and capable of filtering as normal why do they cannot handle those from muscle proteins ?
Hmmm. I mean. That's probably a massive amount all at once. Who knows how much that's gonna be. It's not exactly taking any normal route either. Maybe there is a too much sure but what's that then? Rhabdo may equal not 2 not 3 not 4 g per kg bodyweight but may be more like 10+. Something you can't eat
@@gur262Figured it out a month later. Myoglobin is the type of protein that clogs kidneys when muscle deteriorate. Can't remember details but I know it's not the same as ones ingested via stomach.
@@gur262 Figured it out about a month later. Myoglobin isn't the same as what we ingest via stomach. Can't remember details though.
Super helpful Layne!!
what about diabetic people?
Thank you so much for this clarification.My doctor gave me a heart attack and told me she wants to see me asap because my CKK we're elevated. She asked if I lift and I told her yes 5 -6 times a week. She wants to more tests. I shouldn't worry right ?
How the tests are going? I'm in the same situation as you.
1.5g per kg body weight in the fitness world is almost “low protein” ... I’ve seen 75kg bodybuilder consume 250g-300g. What do you think or suggest as the upper end of safe long term protein consumption, Layne?
As long as its within your BMR. The high ratio of protein helps people build muscle while in a deficit.
@biolayne Thanks for the insight, I've been trying got straight educated answers on this for years. One more question that I cannot seem to get a straight answer on. Since I am a kidney donor should I fall into the "less than normal kidney function" isle? Specifically for protein intake (1gr pr lean BW) and supplements- creatine, whey protein, etc? Any additional concerns for a 50 yr old weightlifting kidney donor with one healthy kidney?
Dr. Eric Berg
For the algorithm.
Is it beneficial to supplement creatine if we already have a natural high dose of creatinine ? Please
I think it is, I take creatine and still notice a huge difference in energy and strength. But I'm not a doctor so...you do you buddy.
1g per lbs should be fine
You are the best! I am a bodybuilder with pretty good lean muscle mass. My BUN was 35, but everything else was absolutely normal. I do eat a high protein diet and relatively low carb. You answered all my questions and concerns! So grateful for your videos, knowledge, and expertise! Thank you!
Same with me!
I told my doctor I'm eating over 100 grams of protein per day and she said it was probably too much. I'm a healthy individual with no morbidities, I train 6 days a week and currently have BMI of 25.7. I haven't really increased my protein intake (
Thats crazy! Never take diet advice from a doctor.
Lol
th-cam.com/channels/5apkKkeZQXRSDbqSalG8CQ.html
This guy eats 300 to 400 grams a day. Seems to be doing quite well.
is 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight safe
Overkill man. 0.5-1g, more 1.5 if you’re in a much higher weight class. But hey whatever works for you man good luck. 💪🏽
Haha best outro ever
Is this similar to high cholestorel levels on paper work does it equate to heart disease? What i mean is are they related? I read somewhere that high cholesterol means the body is recovering from an injury, and that you do not get high cholesterol from the food you eat..not sure if this is true. What do you think?
half of people that get heart attacks have low cholesterol
B Razz really? How do you know that??
I eat about 100-120 grams of protein a day and I’m 210lbs and see better results than when I eat more than 200. Carbs are king. Protein is eww. Lol
No fucking way tat is true...
Tap Tapper
Well it is. I like oatmeal and fruits. I eat them a lot throughout the day.
Tap Tapper carbohydrates are protein sparing, meaning that so long as an individual is getting enough protein to support muscle protein synthesis, veering towards higher carbohydrate consumption causes the body to use the ingested protein to build muscle rather than redirecting it to burn for fuel. So what OP is saying can certainly be true for him. I noticed similar effects when I got out of a cut and went to maintenance-I lowered my protein from 175-190g down to 100-120g, and increased carbohydrates in proportion. I definitely saw a increase in muscle growth (though of course some portion of that can be attributed to getting out of a deficit). For reference I am a 120lb 5’4” female
Superb info 👌 thank you 🙏
For Sparta!
Well Appreciated!
Well spoken mate 👏🏻👏🏻
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