L. V. Beethoven: Sonata nº 17 «Tempest», Op. 31 nº 2 (1802)

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  • @alijoyce2169
    @alijoyce2169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Beethoven is the coolest uncle ever.

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I don't know about that. Beethoven's nephew tried to kill himself because of him.

    • @jessicathekitten9615
      @jessicathekitten9615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Way to ruin the mood dude

    • @SilviaVillarespe
      @SilviaVillarespe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@calebhu6383 too many movies

    • @alphao3012
      @alphao3012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calebhu6383 ......

    • @lucasramos253
      @lucasramos253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@SilviaVillarespe actually, beethoven's nephew (Karl) tried to suicide because of him. I don't know if you know but, when beethoven's brother (and Karl's father) died, Beethoven made him write a testament saying that beethoven would be Karl's father when he passed away.
      Beethoven then, saying that Karl's mother was immoral and a bad mother, opened a lawsuit trying to take custody of Karl. And Beethoven took him away from his mother for MANY years.
      Beethoven said that his mother was "poisonous" and "immoral" for Karl, his nephew. And he forced the boy to learn piano and music, even though Karl didn't even have the talent for it.
      Several times Karl tried to flee, but ended up returning by force from the authorities.
      After suffering so much about it, Karl bought two guns. One he tried to shoot, but he didn't have success, and the second gun almost killed him, but he was found by a carter, and he said that wanted to see your mother.
      Beethoven was not the best father, he tried to be. But, infact, due to his turbulent childhood with his own father (alcoholic and abusive), he also got mental problems. :(

  • @Olga6328
    @Olga6328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    00:02 І ч. ГП d
    00:53 І ч. СП
    01:17 І ч. ПП а
    08:41 ІІ ч. ГП В
    11:36 ІІ ч. ПП F
    19:05 ІІІ ч. ГП d
    19:44 ІІІ ч. ПП a

  • @phamnguyenductin
    @phamnguyenductin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love Arrau's 3rd movement. For me this is the right tempo - after all it's marked allegretto, but some pianists seem to interpret it as allegro.

    • @jmbechtel
      @jmbechtel วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is my first time hearing such a tempo... it is so much better than the "hurried" interpretations that I have heard.

  • @sue70950
    @sue70950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    0:01
    8:40
    19:03

    • @konstantinos7024
      @konstantinos7024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know that timestamps exist , right ?

  • @Дарья-с5и9р
    @Дарья-с5и9р 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1 часть
    0:05 - ГП
    0:53 - СП
    1:17 - ПП
    6:03 - речитатив (подход к репризе)
    2 часть
    8:41 - ГП
    11:36 - ПП
    3 часть
    19:05 - ГП

  • @vlinaviolin
    @vlinaviolin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I часть
    Гп 1 эл +2 эл 0:01 d
    3 эл ГП/СП 00:47 соль ля СИ ля ля
    1ПП 01:16
    2ПП 01:30
    ЗП 01:45
    Разработка
    4:21 развивает 1эл гп
    II часть
    Fis dur резко d moll
    Монолог ? 05:34 ?
    Кода

  • @elizabethlau644
    @elizabethlau644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favorite 3rd movement....................Allegretto..............................Love it !!!

  • @caducarvalho9544
    @caducarvalho9544 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The 0.1 second he takes before hitting that D at 0:52 is just so perfect. It sounds like a real thunder, like a giant rock crashing into the sea.

  • @manukvardanyan94
    @manukvardanyan94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    26:18 .. a great sense of ACCENT and PAUSE ... it's over, everything is decided.. the sword does his job !

  • @Bulacanos
    @Bulacanos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    11:35 meet the Flintstones

  • @jonasmusic156
    @jonasmusic156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The melody in the third movement is wonderful. I've heard from somewhere that Beethoven wasn't a good MELODY WRITER. Now I know that he was.

    • @lefinlay
      @lefinlay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nobody, in all of human history, has ever said that Beethoven isn’t a good melody writer. I’m glad you think he is though 😅

    • @lucasramos253
      @lucasramos253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is not that Beethoven was bad at writing melodies. It turns out that beethoven had difficulties in writing melodies, compared to Mozart. Beethoven even wondered if he was as good as they said.

    • @alexistrevino9349
      @alexistrevino9349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lucasramos253 Indeed. A music teacher of mine once told me that it often took Beethoven quite some time to compose a single piece, whereas Mozart would churn out a piece in one sitting, sometimes even improvising it. Nonetheless, though apparently seeming as inefficient, Beethoven’s painstaking approach to composition produced a great deal of masterfully crafted works.

    • @kellyng2548
      @kellyng2548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how is he deaf but still so amazinggg, I mean, I can’t even compose something presentable 🤯

    • @sfbirdclub
      @sfbirdclub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lefinlay Unfortunately Bernstein did indeed say that. But it was just his way of speaking. The context is everything with Lenny's off the cuff remarks. Beethoven could write tunes: Good Lord yes.

  • @sandraborbollaescobar9821
    @sandraborbollaescobar9821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Beethoven was deaf. But his mind housed all the sounds of this earth. His hands was magic and his music the most beautiful, furious, sad, amazing, and lovely that i can heard.

    • @df63vu3f73k
      @df63vu3f73k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He was deaf at the end of his life not when he wrote this

  • @janjacobi127
    @janjacobi127 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    While I like Arrau, I consider his playing in the first movement too ‘dry’. Regardless whether it should be played thematically, as in an approaching to a storm, I feel he overcalculated this one as if it were a math exercise

    • @c.contrafactum584
      @c.contrafactum584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

    • @johanmanso3739
      @johanmanso3739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jan Jacobi Beethoven didn't have in his mind the "Tempest " tittle

  • @campobassoester8042
    @campobassoester8042 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    19:05 😍

  • @MARIAHELENA606
    @MARIAHELENA606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stupendo. Lo spartito utilissimo per cogliere tutte le sfumature di questo capolavoro.

  • @autosalesrevival
    @autosalesrevival 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22:28 i dont why is it hard to understand but this part which is the best in the whole piece sounds like shit when played without sustain, why dont piainist play with more meaning

  • @truBador2
    @truBador2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is good. Of course it is. It's Arau, whose lineage goes back to Beethoven himself! I appreciate the way he brings out all the inner lines, which makes the playing tasteful and justifies his tempos perfectly. A good contrast with Arau's take on Op. 31 no2 is Glenn Gould playing the same piece. His tempestuous tempos are another perfectly justified interpretation (not so much though his choice to omit the repeats!). If Gould sounds a little rushed in his live performance, it is not so much because of his tempo as it is his glossing over details like the inner voices, which Arau has so clearly given careful consideration to. Arau on Sunday, Gould on Tuesday...

    • @claudioarrau1903
      @claudioarrau1903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      truBador2 Arau or Arrau?

    • @jrodriguezpiano
      @jrodriguezpiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      truBador2 no one asked

    • @98wongjf
      @98wongjf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jrodriguezpianoWhy you gotta be so rude

    • @jrodriguezpiano
      @jrodriguezpiano ปีที่แล้ว

      @@98wongjf why you gotta suck bajood

  • @stantia1731
    @stantia1731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ciao ho un canale di musica, letteratura, arte con lo scopo di intrattenere e spero anche di emozionare più gente possibile con le mie interpretazioni eseguite al piano di compositori come Bach, Chopin, Beethoven ecc... lettura dei miei autori preferiti e video naturalistici.

  • @chuanyingyu8156
    @chuanyingyu8156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone's favourie mvt is the 3rd but what about the first! When hearing it you literally would turn speechless.

    • @TheGoat-zt9bd
      @TheGoat-zt9bd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It represents Beethoven who fights against his destiny and God who manifests himself with the arpeggios at the beginning of each phrase of the piece, the measures where the melody varies between bass and treble shows the dispute and the war of destiny (the bass) and Beethoven (treble)

  • @hgwdhgwd-hd3tx
    @hgwdhgwd-hd3tx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Usually Claudio Arrau interprets much better than this. I doubt, whether this recording is indeed played by C. Arrau!

  • @reencuentro9354
    @reencuentro9354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:00 sounds like a Flinstones melody

    • @beethoven_jr
      @beethoven_jr 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Точно подмечено. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kateliufan
    @kateliufan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2악장이 최고임.. 왼손 따다다단 따다다단 따다다단 미치겠다ㅠㅠㅜㅠ

  • @vittor313
    @vittor313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds Mozart's piano sonata 14

  • @howardchasnoff208
    @howardchasnoff208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:18 end of exposition beginning of development 5:55 beginning of recap. thematic material interspersed with recits
    All back in d minor. secondary theme in expo was in a minor which is the dominant key.

  • @steffen5121
    @steffen5121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I read the notes, I must say, I'm really not a fan of extensive rubatos, that are not in the script.

  • @devindlee
    @devindlee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is how our parents told us how they went to school 4:54

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha lmao ((((=

  • @fredericchopin6773
    @fredericchopin6773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    💪

  • @thewho4355
    @thewho4355 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    19:04

  • @Donovan-cd5gh
    @Donovan-cd5gh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:00

  • @Roadman3235
    @Roadman3235 หลายเดือนก่อน

    flintstones?

  • @vampireff7822
    @vampireff7822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is 42 x 13 = 312
    what is 312 ??
    is it Op. 31 nº 2

  • @공백-d1v
    @공백-d1v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:04

  • @SusanaCastagnet
    @SusanaCastagnet 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pdf

  • @smaragdablazaki6520
    @smaragdablazaki6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Τέλειο είναι

  • @kiarashmohebbi275
    @kiarashmohebbi275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like Movement 3 19:3
    L V B IS A GREAT COMPOSER
    ( LUDIG VAN BEETHOVEN )

    • @dawnthenightlightfury1195
      @dawnthenightlightfury1195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ludwig, not ludig

    • @kiarashmohebbi275
      @kiarashmohebbi275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dawnthenightlightfury1195
      Yes your right
      Sorry for my mistake
      I cant speak English very well Because im from Iran ( Islamic Rpublic Of Iran )

    • @uwufffsunchez2626
      @uwufffsunchez2626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kiarashmohebbi275 Ludwig isn´t English

    • @kiarashmohebbi275
      @kiarashmohebbi275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uwufffsunchez2626
      Yes i know
      He is from Germany

    • @uwufffsunchez2626
      @uwufffsunchez2626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kiarashmohebbi275 Ich auch

  • @별별-p7h
    @별별-p7h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOOD

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    15:43 is angelic.

    • @rembo96
      @rembo96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      22:03

    • @antonioanker2958
      @antonioanker2958 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      19:04

    • @hase2716
      @hase2716 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      26:36 ahah

    • @aoznes
      @aoznes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you for sharing,loved it!

    • @Xlappahony
      @Xlappahony 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a traditional tune from Bedrock, USA.

  • @magarac99
    @magarac99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arrau is my fave pianist, but Brendl does the best Berthoven Sonatas

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Il y a une répétition de l exposition pour le premier mouvement ?! Il ne me semblait pas .quelqu un peut il confirmer ?
    L interprétation manque de folie.

  • @icarus7211
    @icarus7211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second movement is seriously painful to learn , my god it’s like he didn’t want anyone to play the piece.
    Either way very good piece!

  • @세인-k2x
    @세인-k2x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    00.00❣❣

  • @고민고민하지마-e1f
    @고민고민하지마-e1f 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:00
    6:49

  • @쪼앙딸기조앙
    @쪼앙딸기조앙 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    19:04

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ivo pogorelich fait ressortir des motifs dans le mouvement 3 ,que je n ai jamais entendu par un autre interprète...

  • @gosezi
    @gosezi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    19:03

  • @giuliacantelli
    @giuliacantelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sublime ❤💙💞🍀🙏❣

  • @dan4659
    @dan4659 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:38 2nd movement for you know who

  • @kellyng2548
    @kellyng2548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how is he deaf but still so amazinggg, I mean, I can’t even compose something presentable 🤯

  • @afineassgoosebump1727
    @afineassgoosebump1727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I might be an exception on this one but I think the 3rd movement should be played faster, around 1.25x of the original speed.
    Edit: maybe even 1.35x

    • @ДимитърАнастасов-ш3п
      @ДимитърАнастасов-ш3п 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LordBabu no,you are not an exeption

    • @justastellarperson219
      @justastellarperson219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its his artistic interpretation of the piece.For others the beauty lies in speed,for him the beauty is in the tonality.

    • @phamnguyenductin
      @phamnguyenductin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No. The tempo reads Allegretto, not Allegro.

    • @fabiomangone9789
      @fabiomangone9789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phamnguyenductin that's what I was going to say, it's not necessary to play at a really fast tempo when it's not written, especially when this tempo notation is in a Beethoven's sonata, cause' he was very precise

  • @felixbonigk9162
    @felixbonigk9162 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don‘t think this is Arrau playing.

  • @daesopark9372
    @daesopark9372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sibar jonna omyohane

  • @elsa4180
    @elsa4180 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:25

  • @Eugen_969b
    @Eugen_969b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Слышно, что дедушка играет.

  • @elsa4180
    @elsa4180 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:15

  • @jeffreyemge5435
    @jeffreyemge5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    01'30"

  • @ludwigvanbeethoven7192
    @ludwigvanbeethoven7192 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This pianist has quite a few different tempos going on... It's a, "Tempest." A storm. Forte means forte, piano means piano. BANG OUT THOSE CHORDS. THEN PLAY SOFT.

    • @ludwigvanbeethoven7192
      @ludwigvanbeethoven7192 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who, Claudio Arrau? Hahaha. Sure thing, girlfriend.

    • @sergeyscoville6655
      @sergeyscoville6655 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ludwig Van Beethoven I have to agree with Noah Kivler, Arrau is brilliant and you would have to be world class to accurately give criticism in my opinion

    • @ric55
      @ric55 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Troll alert.

    • @GreerFried
      @GreerFried 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure Arrau was great, but how can you disagree with Beethoven himself? He was possibly the most genius musician of all time and certainly knows how to play his own piece.

    • @qp4135
      @qp4135 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beethoven referred to Shakespeare's play, where the actual storm plays little role. -- Arrau's discursive approach highlights many charms of this score. I like in particular his first movement: he reveals sinuosities that a more "stormy" interpretation would just ignore.

  • @giannicioni29
    @giannicioni29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ik

  • @유리08-t1k
    @유리08-t1k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:10

  • @dima.jiharev
    @dima.jiharev 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ludwig von Beethoven!

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dmitry Jikharev *van

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayrtonium truck?

  • @VikkiSvet
    @VikkiSvet ปีที่แล้ว

    Обажаемая❤

  • @yannickm5237
    @yannickm5237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:12

  • @profemanuel.musicaenpreesc5954
    @profemanuel.musicaenpreesc5954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BELLISIMO :D

  • @Allizblu
    @Allizblu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone please tell me a beethoven sonata that is “easier” to learn i have it for my final and i have to perform it in a really short time ,so by ur experience can u pls tell me. Im in second year at university of arts :) and i need help

    • @Allizblu
      @Allizblu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      by “easier” i mean less challenging cuz i dont really have enough time

    • @mpianod9319
      @mpianod9319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first Beethoven was the Pathetique Sonata. That is probably the least challenging. After Pathetique I learned Tempest.

    • @Allizblu
      @Allizblu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mpianod9319 really? pathetique looks so challenging but im definitely gonna give it a look and try it out i thought it was way complicated

    • @pacom.8815
      @pacom.8815  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Allizblu The least challenging Beethoven's sonata I've ever played is undoubtdly nº 25 (Op. 79). Nº 27 (Op. 90) is also not very hard.

  • @TempodiPiano
    @TempodiPiano 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I disagree with the rallentendos in the Adagio. It breaks the tension.

  • @manu_zeta
    @manu_zeta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ogni volta è più bella!

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tempest? No tempest here.

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beethoven never thought of the term "storm" for this sonata, the name was given by someone else most likely Schindler

  • @colinmurphy2214
    @colinmurphy2214 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:41

  • @jkrai9684
    @jkrai9684 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WHY IS IT OUT OF TUNE

  • @olegkutsmyda4925
    @olegkutsmyda4925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The third movement was too slow played. It should be more faster. This is why it is called the tempest sonata.
    Edit: Turn up the playback speed to 1.15. This is the normal tempo. Not to mention it is in allegretto

    • @maxgregorycompositions6216
      @maxgregorycompositions6216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      * was played too slow/slowly *
      * it should be faster *
      Check your grammar lol.

    • @olegkutsmyda4925
      @olegkutsmyda4925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxgregorycompositions6216 i dont care man

    • @maxgregorycompositions6216
      @maxgregorycompositions6216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@olegkutsmyda4925 Ok.

    • @98wongjf
      @98wongjf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxgregorycompositions6216don’t be so mean lol😂

  • @lajk6165
    @lajk6165 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    튠 나간듯 거의 반키높게들림 악보시작부터 내가 잘못보고있나했음

  • @robbystafford8273
    @robbystafford8273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this interpretation is unlistenable

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? You're probably saying this because you're used to other interpretations that are more "brisk" than that, but in my opinion it's among the most successful interpretations of this sonata I've ever heard, especially the 3rd movement