Man yall gonna hate me this reaction This goes to show everyone would be different in Squid Game, Woo Shiesty did what he had to do to survive and make it out! Im just mad they made Ali so clueless and let him get played like a fiddle. Cold world no blanket
The thing about Ali’s character is that he’s too trusting/naive. He trusted his scumbag boss would pay him after working 6 months basically free. He believed and respected Sang-Woo after he showed him kindness. He is a foreigner in a different country so he’s probably used to people being racist or bullying and in these games he found some people that he could trust (kinda). So while I and most people wished he was a bit more suspicious about the whole deal, he had to believe Sang-Woo. I read a really good quote that fits this - “the person you would take a bullet for, is the one behind the trigger”
This is exactly what I was thinking. I was honestly getting a little pissed at Sheera. Like how are you gonna get mad at the guy for being trusting and loyal. Even if he's not making the right decisions, he's doing his best to help everyone get through.
Honestly it just made me love Ali even more. The minute Sangwoo suggested there was a way for them to both survive Ali wanted to believe it because he is a good guy. We knew he was the type to risk his own safety for the wellbeing of others the minute he grabbed Gihun's jacket to keep him from being shot. The thing I loved Ali for from the start is the same beautiful character trait that ultimately was his downfall and while it hurts I'm ok with that. I'm glad the game never changed him.
I think the reason why Ali died being betrayed was to showcase that he got into the squid games because he was naive and believed that his boss would pay him for his work. Kinda sad cold hard truth that because he's too trusting and naive he also got played by Sang woo and met his death the same way.
There is a video that shows all of their death was already being foreshadowed before the game. Remember ali snatching the money from his boss and runaway. Then in here his death scene was the same being snatched of his marbles.
Also, you have to remember the very thing that Sang-Woo is in debt for: FRAUD. So it's very fitting in his character that he would be one to be intelligently deceptive.
Ali was the only pure person in that group. He wasn’t a criminal, he wasn’t a liar, he wasn’t a cheat. He was just an honest guy trying to provide for his family who had been screwed over by his shady boss. He’s the only one who physically put his life on the line to save someone’s life during the games. A stranger, even. He had morals and convictions, and couldn’t bring himself to have another person’s blood on his hands, even at the end. And it was his good heart that ended up killing him. He was simply too pure for the games. He was dead from the second he walked back into that car.
Thank you man I really agree they are wrong for calling him naive or stupid. He did initially refuse giving the marbles but Sangwoo was Korean so Ali trusted that he knew a way to save them both since the games were Korean. He wanted to take the risk of dying with him for the sake of not killing him. He did nothing wrong other than being a decent loyal human.
@@senasezer422 All of what you said doesn't make him not stupid for trusting the dude were in the game they stated, ONLY ONE CAN LIVE, he won the dude looked desperate and he took a plan in which he will be way from each other with time running out, stupid. In this game you make more money if people die, him trusting them he was stupid and naïve, not unrealistic but that doesn't make him not stupid and naïve.
I know everybody was so emotional over Ali's death, but honestly Ji-Yeong's story felt personal to me. Her saying that she doesn't have a reason to leave with all the money since nobody would be waiting for her broke my heart. Ali would be over the moon if he won the money but with Ji-Yeong, nothing would change. She wanted them both her and Sae to survive since that would be her one reason. "When we get out of here, let's sip some mojitos"
Maybe it’s just because I was spoiled on Ali’s death, but Ji-Yeong’s hit me a lot more. While Ali had a rough time of things we can assume he at least had some good times (being with his wife, becoming a father, making friends even if only for a short while). Ji-Yeong’s whole existence just felt empty with her literally being set up to fail from birth. She had problems that even money couldn’t fix, which you can see when she gives up at the end. Her whole story felt like some sort of Greek tragedy
Exactly my thoughts. I just watched that episode and even that young girl was the newest one who got introduced, I did connect with her the most in that short time. Not only the story did hit different with the assaulting religiously father of her (which makes sense now, why she mocked so much about that other religious dude in the team game). The fact that the only reason why she would want to go out was that other girl.... That is soo fucked up
But she died on her own terms, as much as anyone can who is in this game. That made her death, while emotional, also inspiring. The self sacrifice and really I can’t imagine how any one who wins this game returns to any kind of life after witnessing and participating in so much death. I called it that she was going to throw it, also called it that the old man was going to hand over his last marble. My husband got so pissed at me for announcing both. 😬
@@kailajensen1021 It means big brother, but is also used as a form of endearment between two guys that are close. Ali calling Sangwoo "hyung" signifies that Ali truly did trust and believe in Sangwoo, making Sangwoo's betrayal that much worse.
Daily reminder that Ali uses "hyung" for Sungwoo which is equivalent to older brother. You only use it for men you're close to and that are older than you. So he really sounded like a lost boy calling for his brother in the end.
Gi-hun did not suck at every game! Yes, he’s very lucky, but he had the best performance on the second game. He’s probably the ONLY one with an umbrella that passed
actualy gi hun kinda lucked out for every single game 1st game ali saved him 2nd one his sweat gave him insight 3rd game the old man and sang woo carried 4th game the old man let him win 5th game he was saved by the dude who wanted to go first
Ali might be fckng stupid for you all. However, the show did a good job in establishing his character. Sangwoo did nothing but took care of him like a younger brother. He lent him his phone, gave him money for his bus fare, looked out for him, etc. So the last thing that Ali would think for Sangwoo, who he looked up to as an older bro, is to betray him.
Yeah, I think here we might also benefit a bit from knowing details outside of his perspective. For example we know that Sang Woo was wanted for committing fraud, so he's not new to cheating people. In general we've seen enough of him to get a sense that he can be manipulative, even if he projects a good image. But Ali didn't get to see all that or know his life story like us.
In hindsight, Il nam having Gi Hun messing around the entire game and faking dementia was just a sadist act to play with him before his retirement from the games.
He is the first I have seen who has mentioned the real villian the as early he did. I have been waiting because I told my husband within the first few minutes of them showing him in episode one that he was the game master.
Yk dam well he got spoiled because they gave ZERO signs to show he's possibly a villain & if anyone can tell me when there was evidence to prove such a theory then tell me.
ali is not stupid, he’s too trusting. he has morals, and got caught up in a situation where he trusted the wrong person and it lost him his life. that was a very tragic ending to his life because the last thing feeling he experienced was betrayal. people’s lives aren’t games and the real villains here are the people who made the games to prey on vulnerable people.
@@dailydoseofyas6441 precisely.... He was a good man no doubt but in a game where blood is as common as water blindly trusting someone is a little stupid
@@NavW-or2rm how? He trusted a person that saved his life countless times as well as give him a ride home when it was so usual to walk. Stop being so callous
That's called stupid honey But what she mean "stupid" is how he's giving his marble to stranger that he met in the game which is a person who wanna won the prize and survive too Despite of Ali's background
Ali was truly the best character in this show. Just about all the others felt like scum bags, but he actually had a heart going in and out. It was just a heart that was too kind and big for his own good.
@@pettanslayer69 I think some people look at it from the wrong angle. To me Ali can be seen as the... "ignorant" foreigner troupe, he doesnt know how some people in south korea actually are or might be, we also see this with how long he worked for without getting paid at the start of the show. Plus you have to take into account that his partner has been hyped up as a genius and as an amazing man by the main character constantly. It could have been that Ali actually believed this.
I think that's the entire purpose of Ali's character. You can't always live your life being too friendly, positive and trusting of anyone cause there will be some who will use you and benefit selfishly from that kindness. He was too trusting, and that gave him his downfall.
Damn, you guys are really doing Ali dirty. He had no reason not trust Sang-Woo, because I believe up until that point Sang-Woo really did consider him a friend and a comrade. He wasn't just using him and had grown to like him, and I believe it was mututal. The problem was... Sang-Woo was ready to manipulate and betray Ali. Ali lacked that instinct to do evil or bad things. That's why he lost.
imo ali could’ve noticed sang woo wasn’t a “true” friend when the other woman (i forgot ur name she was the one that died with the gangster guy) tried to kick him off the alliance and no one stuck up for him
@@logancoleman4507 They had no reason to. She was simply rambling, there was no way she could have kicked him off the team. Sang-Woo doesn't have "friends". That doesn't mean he doesn't feel for people, or can't care for them. Gin-ho was one of them. But he has strong sense of self-preservation, meaning he would always chose his own interest over others.
I mean it literally been only a couple days since they've met, why would he trust someone who only had one marble left. And about to get shot if he lost it.
Everybody’s all attached to him because he’s such a nice guy, but trust goes out the window in a game where death is constantly looming, especially in a ONE ON ONE DEATH MATCH. He shouldn’t have been so naive and did what he had to do.
@@scientia.veritas bro she was literally insulting him. i mean at least tell her to stop. specifically bc he’s been there since the alliance was formed
This episode made me realize how goated this show was, to kill off that many main characters at once. Edit: since some people don't have a brain, what I meant was the way in which they executed the death of the main cast is what made the show really good, not the fact that they killed characters, I knew they had to die one way or another. Unlike other thriller shows that make characters die in stupid ways or make it feel unnecessary.
@@jamesliggins1885 What they meant was, a show that can make a situation where so many of the main cast dies at once while keeping their characters constant and not making any asspulls, is a good show
Ji-young's last saying was NOT " I'm honored that we were partners " She said, " Thank you for playing with me " in Korean English subs are just awful!
Right!? Bad subs annoy me so much. It literally changes the whole vibe of the scene. I also interpret it as “thank you for doing this with me” She’s not only talking about this particular game, but that Sae byeok picked her in the other game, and them talking in this scene
Wait idk why y’all are hating on Ali so much. The whole point of his character was that he was uneducated and extremely fast to trust. Sang-woo also paid for his bus fare and readily accepted him into his team. He had literally zero reason to doubt sang-woo’s intentions. Yes he should have checked the bag but his assumption was that it was the two of them against the others not him against his friends
Ali called sangwo Hyung , that mean brother So he didn't expect to get betrayed I little bit disappointed because they look like hate Ali more than sangwo Ali just a good guy that trust too much on his so called brother , and it look stupid They watch a series that show an epic big brain moment too much That's why they can't feel the character who look stupid but a good guy
Bro you gotta think about it. All Ali had to do was look inside the bag, and see if the marbles are really there and he didn’t even do that. He doing this for his entire family and only needed one marble but instead he chose to follow up with Sang Woo bs. It still fascinates me that he didn’t see the shift in sang woo behavior because he was all calm but as soon as he starts losing he flips out.
They literally said that they like his character it just that they were upset for all that situation with sangwoo and him being so gullible but yeah, he didn't have reasons for distrust (i mean, except for common sense but whatever). I hope his family is okay.
@@pettanslayer69 they don’t hate Ali, they’re just calling him stupid which is true. He’s an extremely good guy but it also made him extremely naive and too easily fooled. It’s unfortunate but these games aren’t won through kindness, but sheer luck.
I literally bawl every time.. now that it’s over, Ali did piss me off here, but it’s the way he trusted them completely.. he called him brother until the end. Ali just represented the most pure hearted and trusting people.. trust none
Maybe because I majored in business (hated it), or I had business teachers repeat this to me, but them, lawyers, and politicians are the MAIN three to not trust at all with anything. They will do things behind people's back w/o doubt unless caught. You have to beat them at their own greed. I knew from the beginning that Woo was trash when he tried saying how they won't do things for money, yet was in extreme debt and then learned he used his mom's business as collateral.
It's weird to see them refer to everyone as scumbags. Not everyone in Squid Game is a scumbag. Some of them are criminals but the rest are just people in debt desperate to pay it off to survive. They are literally the underrepresented in society that are now just struggling to survive. In fact the creator pointer out how it's a commentary on how capitalism treats people. And calling Ali dumb was way too much.
Well he was dumb or at least borderline ignorant. 33 years of living and he still doesn’t understand how the world works even 8 year olds are weary of people.
@@ab5724 Or you know just trusting of people who have helped saved his life multiple times. So no not borderline dumb or ignorant. He wanted to have himself and Sang woo get to the next game together, and Sang Woo only made to switch when Ali was distracted by a gunshot. Even 50 year old are weary of people and still get betrayed and tricked, it's got nothing to do with age.
@@ab5724 well to be fair i can understand why ali would trust sang woo, ali didnt trust sang woo for no reason, cause sangwoo helped ali before. And ali is probably the type never forgets people's kindness towards him.
Gullibility is a sign of stupidity. What he did was incredibly stupid. If you think it ain't then you're definitely one of the people who won't make it far in this game.
@@murpsauce7168 being gullible doesn’t equate to stupidity. it means innocence and bad judgement. even the smartest ppl can be manipulated and i’m not in the game am i? you’re taking this a little too seriously lmao
Nah he was definitely stupid. It’s kind of common sense to not trust your opponent in a 1v1 death game. It was honestly really stupid of him to put so much trust in a person that he just met through this shady game.
In korea you cant mute the sound when taking pictures. Incase people try to take pictures of someone without the permission.its so people can be aware of their surroundings. 2:00
This episode was so heartbreaking man really got me in the feels and normally I don’t cry at a lot of things, Ali really deserved better man, same with the girl, they all did. 💔💔💔
Y'all totally neglected the relation between Ali and Sang Woo, he isn't stupid, he was looking up to him, man... he was probably the only one who was good to him before.
Other reactors don't tell you what they really think. They pander to what you want to see. These guys don't give a shit. They'll say what's on their mind, and in this case they're right. You can cry about it, but that was incredibly stupid.
The thing about Ali's character is he didn't feel the need to check because he wouldn't do that to Sangwoo. We kind of saw how he had no reason to risk himself to save Gi Hun in the first round but he did so unconditionally. Judging people by his own nature, he just never realized that people may have hidden agendas regardless of their surface-level kindness for you. Goes the other way too, in real life I've seen a lot of friends who betrayed/talked shit about me always assumed I was doing the same to them. You expect from people who you are to them.
I understand being upset at Ali, but I wouldn't say he's stupid. Or at least he didn't deserve to be derided that much. His character is of a naive foreigner who trusted and cared for his friends, ESPECIALLY Sang-woo for paying for his call and a bus ticket. Ali probably never experienced generosity like that at all so he became overly trusting of him. But Sang-woo was clearly not some generous friend like Ali saw him as. So it makes so much sense for him to trust Sang-woo in that moment since HE had no evidence that Sang-woo was truly that cold. WE had that evidence. Ali did not. I get its a death game and all, but you also really have to look at Ali's perspective and his character. The way he acted was consistent with his character. If you defend Sang-woo for doing what he had to do to survive, then you have to acknowledge that Ali did what he BELIEVED he had to do to ensure he and his friend survived. I'd be far more mad at Sang-woo for pulling something that cold and heinous with someone who didn't deserve it, than to call Ali stupid for not predicting that his closest friend in this game was ready to manipulate and betray him.
To play a game where you have to eliminate people and STILL trusting that they won’t do you wrong is stupid. Ali is kind and naive and this is not the place for that. It’s something he should’ve known 🤷🏻♀️ still sad for the guy, but it is what it is
@@user-lc1lb8lp8k then why did they form a team in the first place?? There was still a certain level of trust within groups but still having the means to be a survivor... Plus they don't know how many will be winners but I'd give it to Sang-woo to figuring out early that there's most likely only one winner
@@JessYapping Sure but again you have to understand Ali's character and perspective. Being snapped at by Sang-woo was not a strong enough reason for Ali distrust him. Snapping because you suspect cheating doesn't equal being a manipulator. Not from Ali's perspective at that point.
Honestly, i was a little shocked by your reaction of blaming Ali and calling him stupid. 😢😢 If you call all the characters ‘ scumbags’ after having watched the series so far, I feel you are missing to understand what human beings are like in our real society. Even though the participants of squid game were living tough lives and ended up being in a cruel death game, the characters are no different from people you see in the real world.. And Ali was the only one who wanted to trust his friend and to survive together… I felt so heartbroken that he was betrayed by someone he thought a friend..
What's there to miss? He was gullible and in hindsight they only formed an alliance to get ahead of the game. Ali lowkey had it coming for being too nice in a dangerous game.
i think is not really that he is naive, the problem most of the time is not that you are innocent but you give a lot of trust to people that hope you got for others to have standards
all these comments are calling him naive, but he genuinely trusted sang-woo. even in the circumstances, i do think they were building a bit of a friendship. i think he did sense something off, but didn't want to believe it.
Sangwoo chose Ali because if the game was cooperative, he could use Ali's physicality. If it was competitive, he could outsmart him. The man graduated from Seoul National University; he knew what he was doing.
@Joseph Joestar I might be wrong but I don't think only one person can win the grand prize. I think they said whoever makes it through the 6 games will get the money, and the last game was squid game (a team game) so it should be possible for more than one person to win the grand prize.
@@webhead_22 yep exactly thats why Gi-hun tried to make a pact with Sae to take out Sang-Woo for the last game and split the money before noticing Sae dying
@Joseph Joestar what … are you talking about .. ?? i mean, i agree with everything that you said (you quite literally stated the obvious), but what i meant by my comment is that they thought it was out of character and incredibly stupid of ali to do that when… it was to be expected..?? ali always heard anyone out and clearly cared a lot for sangwoo, so i don’t think it was necessarily out of character
Gi-hun doesn't think the old man is letting him win. He's about to cry because he feels like he's taking advantage of his friend's brain degeneration in order to win
I'm not surprised at all with the other two reactions to Ali's death since they're known to be very judgmental towards fictional characters whenever they do something that they consider "dumb", but I wasn't expecting Lupa's reaction. I thought he'd be the one to laugh off most of the emotional moments in this episode, turned out he's the only one crying at the end. I don't get them saying all these people are scumbags. They're just in a lotta debt and are desperate to survive/win.
I was actually kind of surprised that Lupa was the one being more sympathetic 😅 I expected him to joke around or something but nope, him crying made me cry even more bruh
They legit are scumbags no offense. Gi hun is a deadbeat and is/was selfish. People only felt bad for him bc of how he acted in the squid game. Sangwoo is str8 trash and I think we all knew that. Ali is stupid for trusting a stranger in a death game, even though what happened was sad. Sae-byeok stole from people, trusted the wrong people, and was in gang and probably did other stuff. We won’t speak on the old man though 😭
All of them is a bad guy even the main character spent all of her mom's insurance and asking his ex to pay for him Instead of going to work or find a job he choose to selfreward himself too much Sae byok (not sure it speel right) But she hardly run from North Korea then regret it, she wanna back for her mom, people know how expensive it was to pass the river, usually it cost 10m won to get out from north korea. But for back there?40m korean won is cheap considering the guide who gambling over their life to make her back without noticed by the army This is a dirty game, this movie is lit how they make ppl that scumbag looks good in another point of view with showing the humanity side. Everybody fight for the prize and everybody who comeback know they'll be eliminated there. Ppl crying over Ali bcs he's an imigrant that treat badly not sure he's legal or illegal imigrant but he have no one to trust, when ppl treat him well he'll treat them more. He's not a pickpocket, he didnt scam his company, he's not a mafia, he didnt use his parent's money for stupid things. He just got unlucky in Korea In the end this move show us how fk up the reality is, even humanity side of a criminal can change people's point of view
Calling Ali stupid and not taking in the scene was really annoying. The guy is naive, trusting and has a good heart. They've established this over and over. It's his character. He looked up to Sungwoo like an older brother (he literally calls him it) and really thought he wanted them both to get out. The whole point of the episode was the tragic irony of the relationships that have formed and the characterisations of the players in those pairings. Sheera was particularly obnoxious to watch this time around. Not understanding the characters and paying attention to the interaction of the scene makes you spout ignorance at the screen. You were dead wrong but doubled down so hard.
I mean I agree with their reactions I'm not feeling sad about this especially cause this is a DEATH GAME U being too trusting will screw u over Look at the second game or the night game Ali was great but that doesn't mean what he did in this episode wasn't a good choice U trust somebody in a 1v1 death match Naivety makes bad choices Like Roshi said "Sungwoo did what he had to do" u can trust people but have that trust be at an arm's length
You guys call him Sangwoo, but you can tell that Ali calls him sang woo "hyung". Although "hyung" is a Korean word that means older brother, he is used as a friendly expression to refer to a person above whom he trusts and follows. Ali dies calling him his brother until the very end. So it breaks my heart even more.
how do you know that ? are you Korean ? if you know this only because you are a koreeaboo then don't expect anyone that doesn't regurlarly watch korena media to understand those notions... I don't expect my mom to know what "kun" , "chan" or "san" means when she watches a Ghibli movie
@@Dan_Kanerva That’s exactly why they are explaining it. Where in the comment do you see them say they expect everyone to know what it means? I honestly don’t get why you’re so triggered And yes, in places the subs are so off it changes the vibe like at 22:19. The subs say “I’m honored that we were partners” but she actually says “thank you for doing it with me/playing with me” To me that changes the meaning a lot cause you know she’s not only talking about them playing together, but that Saebyeok approached her in the first place, and that she’s thankful they got to know each other.
You are too much in your feels they liked Ali they were heated they made him go out like that and made him clueless. Which I agree with. I was pissed at him too for being to gullible in a game where you know people will die and people are scumbags and will do anything to survive.
it’s a game where you’re supposed to eliminate people 😶 man was too naive and it costed him. it was stupid of him to trust sang woo, it’s not wrong to say that..
Ali was already portrayed to be naive and trusting, his “teammates” the core ones at least have helped him and together they made it through, you can say it was stupid for him not to check or to trust someone that and showed him kindness before and until now hadn’t done anything to him for him to think he’s untrustworthy but that’s Ali’s character stupid as it was not to check or just say no I think this just goes to show you that sometimes it’s the people you feel are closest to you that will be the first ones to stab you in the back :(
I don't usually cry watching "sad" things but the girl sacrificing herself made me tear up, what happened to Ali was sad too but I didn't hit me that hard
Same! Everyone is talking about Ali, but for me, the girl who has no one to go back to, was excited to have a friend even for a short time, and sacrifice herself stung me more.
@@thgritic102 Exactly, say if Ali wife found out about his death, she would mourn him. The girl had no one from the outside to mourn her death, so having a new friend for what little time, who can is honorable.
It made me cry too, especially because it turns out her father was a pastor. Mine is too. He didn’t physically kill my mom, but mentally and emotionally as he is a narcissist. It has broken our family, and made me turn from religion. I didn’t even realize earlier why she was so anti prayer, I was laughing during that scene cause deep down I could relate. I’m not anti prayer per say but anti organized religion and really religion in general
i think the point some might be missing about ali is that it's been set up for his character the whole time to be trusting and see the best in people, even willing to put their lives before his own (as he did with Gi-hun in the very first game). he's also a pretty simple guy. he didn't check his bag because he didn't want to believe that sang-woo, the guy who gave him money for the bus when he didn't have to, would ever cheat him. stupid, sure. but he was who he was until the end. i think this episode was a pretty good payoff in general for everything we've learned about these characters up until this point and that may be lost in debating who was smart and who was stupid, etc, which really isn't the main focus of this episode
I don't like how y'all are insulting Ali for trusting Sang Woo. As the audience, we saw Sang Woo had traiterous tendencies. However, Ali being the kind hearted and good natured character he trusted Sang Woo innocently. I just don't get why you are insulting him when he had no idea of how evil Sang Woo was. You kept saying he was an idiot and laughing for his mistrust without grabing the essence of the character himself. To me his death was the saddest because of how innocent he was and him being betrayed really hurt (you shouldn't be laughing bcos it's easy to suppose something when you're watching the show from outside)
insult? theyre just giving insights/opinion its true this happens alot in real life thats y yall should not trust anyone sangwoo just played the game he wants to survive in this round but yea he still an as*hole, ali is my fave but theyre rivals in this game stop being so softie lmaooo
Damn..every people have different reaction, so you can't expect people were thinking the same way when watching Ali trusting Sang Woo or whoever the fuck his name..and honestly you people, you hate people with different reaction than yourself to this scene??..damn too emotional
People seem to like and dislike Ali characters. I'm Korean, but I don't think Ali is that foolish, so I think Ali is enough person in reality. It may be a cultural difference. Ali seems to have trusted Sangwoo a lot.
The saddest part of this reaction was seeing you guys shit talk Ali when what it came down to most of all was that he couldn't bear to sentence a friend that had showed him kindness to death. Yes he was naive for one moment, but does that deserve *hate* ?
This episode clearly seperates people. Look at the different reaction between Lupasan and the others. Lupasan showed emotion because he know's that he'd make Ali's choice. It's quite interesting though because an argument could be made as to when does loyalty go too far? I argue on Ali/Lupasan's behalf: I'd rather die doing what's morally right than live a winner by deciet. Let me know your opinions on this!
@@TheMiamiHeat I don't understand this cause you doing what you think is morally right just die leaves your wife and infant child lost and alone in a foreign country. You are participating in a game that when people die you get more money, that doesn't sound morally correct to me that's you taking advantage of their death, so I wanna win for my family and expect others to do the same. Participating in this game is the last resort your morals are out the window, he was dumb to trust a man he met two or three days ago.
@@jasoncarvalho588 Eh I disagree with you respectfully. I feel that morals aren't thrown out of the window here, and that was shown in how Ali was the only person who was in debt for something he couldn't control (His boss wasn't paying him for 6 months). I argue that they build Ali as how humans should be: Kind, loving, and trustworthy. The perfect human. Then they tear him apart by showing that in our world today, people are not all Kind, loving and trustworthy. We are selfish and greedy. We are liars and backstabbers. We are flawed.
@@TheMiamiHeat I dodnt think the show is making a statement on how every human should act also, why would the show make him naive if he's suppose to be the perfect human, that never existed or will. Being naive is a bad trait you can be a good person without being easily manipulated, also is not a "nowadays" situation that people are selfish. That has existed since forever and I the past carrying for someone that is foreign and outside your "tribe" was even.more unlikely.
Wow, the disrespect on Ali from you guys all because, the point of his character was that he’s a man who is too trusting, kind-hearted, and willing to put himself on the line like saving Gi-Hun, is so unnecessary. Like anybody like him with that kind of mindset would’ve been in the same situation. I’ve seen other better reactors who all agree that what happen to Ali was messed up and actually felt bad for him and don’t blame him for that or hold anything of him being stupid for not expecting to be played because the purpose of his character and what happen to him was the show people/viewers that anybody like him can be easily betrayed by those you see as friends or brothers and not expect or see it coming. But whatever.
Being trusting is different from being stupid. Ali was both. He got played by a switcheroo a 7 year-old would have seen coming. Yall in your feelings just because you like the character, without realizing that you're infantilizing what's supposed to be 33 year-old grown man. Literally put some pebbles in a bag and that was enough lmao. The simple truth is that part was badly written. The author disrespected Ali with that move.
He is in a game, no shit he got played. Are they better because they agree with you? Also, it was his fault he is in a game that all the previous games when the clock stops and the task isn't done the people die. People die maybe use your head, don't be dumb or so naive, and get used by a guy you met two or three days ago.
Ali has probably never met a Korean who was nice to him since he's a immigrant and at work he's treated like shit. So maybe since sang Soo was nice to him earlier, he trusted him
I love how Lupasan called out that they'd have to kill each other, laughing and everything when predicting it, but when the announcer made it official, he looked so broken inside lol
Ali had been shown multiple times not being the smartest. He had to be told how to play the games and everything. He trusted Sangwoo deeply and thought they were friends.
i mean not knowing the games doesnt mean you're not smart. he doesnt know it cuz he's not from korea. he's more along the lines of "gullible and naive".
Yep, specially when the girl asked her if the South is better and there was no answer. In a way, she's been playing a death game since she and her family decided to defect to South Korea. They not only need to worry about border security, security in China, but also scammers.
@@lin6705 North Korean defectors mostly have to go through China, not straight to South Korea. That's why when Sae-byeok was talking to that man who helped them escape from North Korea in episode 2, China was mentioned.
I feel like when people judge the character's actions, we forget that the game is literally life or death. So I can't really be mad at Gi-hun for cheating the old man.
Everytime I see someone say "he did what he had to do" and "you would have done the same things", my first thought is "speak for yourself !" Ali, Jiyong and Saebyeok were good during the whole game, they helped people or sacrificed themselves. People are so scary, cuz monsters like Sangwoo are being seen as smart. Damn, the man was ready to sacrifice a hyung he has known for years since the 2nd game... That man had a good education and a good job, but because he was greedy, he started doing document forging and embezzlement and got caught. Life wasn't hard to him, he made it hard for himself. What was he fighting so hard for? He was ready to kill himself and leave his mom with all his debts. He deserves nothing and Ali's life was worth more than his. He should have just taken the bullet and let Ali alone
Sungwoo kept his head in the Game and the prize money the whole time; which is literally what you're there for. When everyone came back for a second time , they all knew the stakes and the cost of winning. This was a competition to the death and if this were real life, there would be a lot more Sungwoo's and probably worse people. I have a lot to say on your last paragraph but I'ma just leave it with: a story that encompasses how humans function in a capitalistic society can't be condensed into black and white concepts.
@@REChronic54 rightttt!!! People are legit being so soft rn because if you were in that situation you’re not saving no damn stranger especially if you came back a second time and have something/someone outside of the game…
sangwoo did absolutely nothing wrong this episode. what he did in the honeycomb game was more immoral than this. it's literally a death game, you do what you gotta
yeah instead of doing it in the last game he should have killed himself earlier and maybe there would be one less orphan and one less widow in a foreign mf country arghh
The comment that makes the most sense is right here. Finally someone understands. I had a beautiful few weeks before remembering there’s actually people like SangWoo in the world. And worse, they think everyone around them is just as selfish and greedy as they are
Sangwoo knew what had to be done, he knew that only one would remain if the money was gonna be won over. Sure he did some stuff to beloved characters but you can't really blame him, he was in it for the money
you also have to remember everyone is here of there own free will they got out and came back knowing they could die so at they end of the day its all his own choices
SPOILER : Let’s say that Sang Woo didn’t kill Byeok before these two and Gi hun played the final game, wouldn’t they have been 2 winners since one of them would have been against the two others ? (either 1 attacker vs two defender or 2 attacker vs 1 defender)
Technically both partners can survive at the marbles game. The rules say you gotta play a game, where you take all ten marbles from your partner, but they never said you gotta have 20 marbles at the end. So if they just switched marbles both could have survived.
I actually teared up to the girls’ conversation and how she was saying that she didn’t have anything to live for. I was too mad to cry for Ali tho I still hate sang woo 🤣
I don’t think Ali deserves that much blame. He fully trusted Sang Woo and didn’t expect him to lie like that. Sang woo took advantage of the fact that Ali is too kind and would definitely choose the path where they would both live so he fabricated a lie to string Ali along. They also showed people constantly looking over to see who got shot to help set up the switcheroo. I don’t think Ali was dumb, just too trusting.
Sang Woo doesn't know anything specific about what games are coming, but he is highly intuitive. What Gi-hun says is accurate: Sang Woo is very intelligent (which is why it bothers Sang Woo every time Gi-Hun mentions it; it paints a target on Sang Woo's back). Sang Woo, just like everyone watching, figured that it might come down to getting rid of your partner, which is why he didn't pick Gi-Hun. In the event he was wrong, he still had a strong partner in Ali, so it was win-win.
Haven’t even watched it and i’m already tearing up again ✋🙄 Side note: The people never said you had to have 20 marbles. You just had to have your partners’s 10 marbles. They coulda played catch and switched bags..
Song woo is the only one showing him kindness in korea. he offer his phone and cash when ali outside he he also save him have idea tug of war. he give his bread for ali. Ali like he very care of me. thats why ali save not eat his egg and give for song woo. he trust him thats why called he like brother. but all they say is dumb dumb dumb. yes. im mean i know he stupid (too trust). but somehow they dont get it. everyone mocking him. thats very sad.
I will not tolerate this Ali slander! He was not stupid, he was just a sweet person. It would never occur to him to betray a friend that way, so he trusted Sangwoo as his friend who helped him and took care of him so much. Ecpecting people to do the fair or decent thing isn't stupidity. It just means he didn't have the character for betrayal and had never been betrayed before.
ALI ISN'T SPEAKING HINDI. MY MANS LITERALLY SAID HE WAS FROM PAKISTAN, HE'S SPEAKING URDU. Still, as a Pakistani, the representation is much appreciated
@@SmileyAdventures Oh wow, that’s really cool, and also thank you! I’ve unfortunately never been anywhere outside of Karachi since that’s where my grandparents and extended family, but I definitely want to explore the country when I have the and time.
What's sad is finally Jeong and Sae were bonding together. If there were different circumstances, things would be different. They were just wrong people at the wrong time.
Most of people get it wrong with Sang Woo. He ain’t evil, he is just doing whatever it takes to survive. He doesn’t enjoy betrayal, he doesn’t do bad things for fun or something like that. He only does what’s best for him. That doesn’t make him the worst person ever. Just makes him cold as ffff.
Someone said that he's the perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy. He kept killing and killing (like he kept investing money) because stopping would mean that all his prior loss was for nothing. That's why he killed himself rather than let Gi-hun get them both out alive. All his awful actions couldn't have been for nothing.
“Oh, yeah. In this game you gonna kill yo partner! [chuckle]” 2 minutes later: 😦 “He forgot he was in a room full of scum bags. Except for the old guy!” Everyone who has seen the ending of the show: 😐👀
Actually, in Korea, by law, all cellphones must make a sound when you take pictures, you can't mute the sound. This is due to the fact that there were massive cases of perverted people taking pictures of mostly woman in trains, on buses, in bathrooms, so the government passed the law that all phones in Korea must make sounds when taking pictures as a safety measure.
@@noholla main comment never especified that the device itself doesn't allow people to turn the noise-for-photo feature on... he just said "you can't mute the sound" . One could easily believe this is bound to legal action only. Guess you're not the brightest one
Ali was NOT stupid, do you even understand him. Of cause he have to trust Sang Woo, Sangwoo was so kind to him since the first day. Sangwoo let Ali used his phone, Sangwoo gave his money to come home, gave him his breakfast and only Gihun know that Sangwoo have problem (after the Honeycorn game). I’m working abroad just like Ali and when some natives people helped me like that I will very grateful. He trust Sangwoo with all of his heart, he is not stupid. He is so kind that he don’t even think about Sangwoo being so bad like that. Sorry for my bad English but I love all the characters in this movie. They are so humans and they just do what they truly are. They are not stupid.
That's what everyone says in death games no matter how shit a character is and an asshole there are there's still people commenting the same thing over and over
It is sad when you trust a person so much to the point of believing they are friends and they betray you like that, that scene made me feel sorry for him because he trusted him. His attitude may be naive , but it shows when a person has goods and real feelings.
@@Him_000 bro it's do or die, you're telling me you're gonna willingly give up your life for a stranger just to be nice? Lmfao I'd scam the hell out of the other person too.
@@mauby6781 Damn re nazi, lmao, but it's obvious he won by being cunning and smarter than his partner (which wasn't too hard) otherwise he would be defeated by sheer dumb luck.
@@mauby6781 Thank you 👏🏽 it’s seems these comments forgot that this is a game of life or death at this point. If this game was for just the money than yeah sang woo would’ve been wrong but this is his life on the line. And also these ppl just met a few days ago it would be dumb asf to put 100% of ur trust in them 😭
Ji-Young was so thoughtful and considerate that at the very end she did everything in her power to take the load off Sae-Byeok's shoulders telling her "thank you", that it wasn't her fault. The same with the Oh-Il-Nam the old man. Also, "Sae-Byeok" in Korean means "dawn". In Korean "hyung" means "older brother" and is very informal/loving in a language and culture where formalities/etiquette mean everything, you'd *only ever* call someone "hyung" if you're blood, or very close and only if they permit you to do so. Until the very end, Ali was calling Sang-Wu "hyung" because he genuinely trusted and cared for him.
Everything Ali and Sang woo did was entirely in character. Sang Woo in his introduction was the only one who read the fine print regarding the games 3rd rule. He also shared that information despite wanting to continue. Giving others an out even at his own expense. He displayed the characteristics that Gi-Hun bragged about, except Ali actually experienced it. He respected him and spoke to him with honorifics, which Sang Woo eventually reciprocated by telling Ali to refer to him as Sang Woo Hyung. Used to describe a brother. Ali went into the game with zero reason to doubt this man based on cultural reasons foreign to some. Sang Woo was always morally gray, and pretty dubious but he did enough to benefit the team that it's reasonable to think he'd find them another out.
The guy continued working for his employer in a foreign country without getting paid for 6 months. So for me that scene was believable. Ali was naive as hell.
@@astorlefflinker8417 someone not giving you all the money they own you , and losing your life... they are VERY different scenarios . I give my friends a pass when they tell me "yeah _i am gonna give you your 50 bucks_ back" and don't return it until months have passed... but in this scenario i would have called bs the second Sangwoo said "give me your marbles"
@@Dan_Kanerva You and I are not Ali. It's as simple as that. Like I said, Ali's character has been set up as a naive one from the start. He didn't get paid for 6 months and still continued working. Sang-woo also showed him kindness by letting him borrow his phone and giving him money for a bus ride. For naive people like Ali that has a lot of effect. Go back to episode 5 when they were giving each others' names, and when Sang-woo told Ali to "just call me hyung", Ali's face lit up and was really flattered. Hyung means big brother in Korea and if you're calling someone hyung, that means you are close. Also, when they were told to partner up, Sang-woo chose Ali over his childhood friend Gi-hyun. That made Ali think that Sang-woo respects him, and acknowledges him as a dependable person. I think all those things make the scene of him naively giving his marbles to Sang-woo believable. He probably thought that there's a possibility that Sang-woo was tricking him, but he didn't want to believe it himself because Sang-woo have always been kind to him.
@@astorlefflinker8417 Ali is not "Ali" either... he is a fictional character made extra dumb in that scene on purpose for the sake of plot , because otherwise we wouldn't have that final battle . The point is that it ain't realistic and takes you away... even a child would have checked the bag as soon as they went different directions
@@Dan_Kanerva If we're gonna go down the path of "these are just fictional characters" then we dont really have anything to talk about anymore. Have a good day.
Remember watching this first time and man the feels was real for this episode ,you can definitely see more changes in sang-woo’s character as the season progresses on
Damn ya'll are the most cold-blooded people lol. The girl on the left and the guy in the middle: the only people I've seen on TH-cam who weren't sad at Ali's death and the guy in the middle just had a smug look on his face the whole episode haha. Shout out to the guy on the very right--he's a real one! :)
Mahhnnn Ji-Yeong's death hit me the most, her backstory and having nothing to go back to left me tearing up especially for a character only introduced an episode ago OOF :_(
Man yall gonna hate me this reaction This goes to show everyone would be different in Squid Game, Woo Shiesty did what he had to do to survive and make it out! Im just mad they made Ali so clueless and let him get played like a fiddle. Cold world no blanket
Well said
Yeah at the end of the day it's do or die. Still, fuck Woo Shiesty...
Factz
I agree with you 100%
Nah, i agree with you, good video.
The thing about Ali’s character is that he’s too trusting/naive. He trusted his scumbag boss would pay him after working 6 months basically free. He believed and respected Sang-Woo after he showed him kindness. He is a foreigner in a different country so he’s probably used to people being racist or bullying and in these games he found some people that he could trust (kinda). So while I and most people wished he was a bit more suspicious about the whole deal, he had to believe Sang-Woo. I read a really good quote that fits this - “the person you would take a bullet for, is the one behind the trigger”
I guess this quote could also apply for the In-ho brothers huh
This is exactly what I was thinking. I was honestly getting a little pissed at Sheera. Like how are you gonna get mad at the guy for being trusting and loyal. Even if he's not making the right decisions, he's doing his best to help everyone get through.
Honestly it just made me love Ali even more. The minute Sangwoo suggested there was a way for them to both survive Ali wanted to believe it because he is a good guy. We knew he was the type to risk his own safety for the wellbeing of others the minute he grabbed Gihun's jacket to keep him from being shot. The thing I loved Ali for from the start is the same beautiful character trait that ultimately was his downfall and while it hurts I'm ok with that. I'm glad the game never changed him.
at least the boss got his hand crushed, that was some unintentional gang shit
@@WaveyBavey I was like shut up sheera
I think the reason why Ali died being betrayed was to showcase that he got into the squid games because he was naive and believed that his boss would pay him for his work. Kinda sad cold hard truth that because he's too trusting and naive he also got played by Sang woo and met his death the same way.
There is a video that shows all of their death was already being foreshadowed before the game. Remember ali snatching the money from his boss and runaway. Then in here his death scene was the same being snatched of his marbles.
Man, Ali was my favorite character because of how good of a guy he was. He trusted dude up until the end which just about made me cry.
Also, you have to remember the very thing that Sang-Woo is in debt for: FRAUD. So it's very fitting in his character that he would be one to be intelligently deceptive.
@@X_Juice_X he even call sung-woo "hyung", means older brother. u only use it for men you're close to and that are older than you.
Foreigners in a nutshell
Ali was the only pure person in that group. He wasn’t a criminal, he wasn’t a liar, he wasn’t a cheat. He was just an honest guy trying to provide for his family who had been screwed over by his shady boss. He’s the only one who physically put his life on the line to save someone’s life during the games. A stranger, even. He had morals and convictions, and couldn’t bring himself to have another person’s blood on his hands, even at the end. And it was his good heart that ended up killing him. He was simply too pure for the games. He was dead from the second he walked back into that car.
Death is an illusion. Ali "beat" this game we currently think of as "reality."
@@iZenLife he’s in a better place 😭
Yess he has no criminal record
He just need money so bad to back to Pakistan with his family
And thats it
Thank you man I really agree they are wrong for calling him naive or stupid. He did initially refuse giving the marbles but Sangwoo was Korean so Ali trusted that he knew a way to save them both since the games were Korean. He wanted to take the risk of dying with him for the sake of not killing him. He did nothing wrong other than being a decent loyal human.
@@senasezer422 All of what you said doesn't make him not stupid for trusting the dude were in the game they stated, ONLY ONE CAN LIVE, he won the dude looked desperate and he took a plan in which he will be way from each other with time running out, stupid. In this game you make more money if people die, him trusting them he was stupid and naïve, not unrealistic but that doesn't make him not stupid and naïve.
All the actors and actresses did so well in this episode! And the fact that this is Sae-byeok's (pickpocket girl) first acting is just wow!
Second actually but strong acting beats.
@@ProQuo360 second ?? What else she play in ?
@@pdeannn800 it’s another Korean show. I found out myself when I googled up. Been learning a lot while teaching in Korea lol
@@ProQuo360
pretty sure this her first. source tho?
@@Ziaotic he said he found it so probably he googled her name and saw what she's acted in
I know everybody was so emotional over Ali's death, but honestly Ji-Yeong's story felt personal to me. Her saying that she doesn't have a reason to leave with all the money since nobody would be waiting for her broke my heart. Ali would be over the moon if he won the money but with Ji-Yeong, nothing would change. She wanted them both her and Sae to survive since that would be her one reason. "When we get out of here, let's sip some mojitos"
Maybe it’s just because I was spoiled on Ali’s death, but Ji-Yeong’s hit me a lot more. While Ali had a rough time of things we can assume he at least had some good times (being with his wife, becoming a father, making friends even if only for a short while). Ji-Yeong’s whole existence just felt empty with her literally being set up to fail from birth. She had problems that even money couldn’t fix, which you can see when she gives up at the end. Her whole story felt like some sort of Greek tragedy
Exactly my thoughts. I just watched that episode and even that young girl was the newest one who got introduced, I did connect with her the most in that short time. Not only the story did hit different with the assaulting religiously father of her (which makes sense now, why she mocked so much about that other religious dude in the team game).
The fact that the only reason why she would want to go out was that other girl.... That is soo fucked up
But she died on her own terms, as much as anyone can who is in this game. That made her death, while emotional, also inspiring. The self sacrifice and really I can’t imagine how any one who wins this game returns to any kind of life after witnessing and participating in so much death. I called it that she was going to throw it, also called it that the old man was going to hand over his last marble. My husband got so pissed at me for announcing both. 😬
honestly i didn't find alis death sad at all lmao
@@IIIISai cool, nobody asked though 😁
The fact that Ali was saying “Hyung” makes it even more sad
Thank you for this. As someone whose subtitles did not make that distinction, this actually adds a lot more depth to that already emotional scene
I don’t get it?
@@kailajensen1021 it means brother it was a sign of respect.
@@kailajensen1021 It means big brother, but is also used as a form of endearment between two guys that are close. Ali calling Sangwoo "hyung" signifies that Ali truly did trust and believe in Sangwoo, making Sangwoo's betrayal that much worse.
@@sansglasses1883 Than what is Small brother?
Daily reminder that Ali uses "hyung" for Sungwoo which is equivalent to older brother. You only use it for men you're close to and that are older than you. So he really sounded like a lost boy calling for his brother in the end.
well, come on, he was just respectful an looked up to sangwoo.
now why'd you have to go and say this 😩😩😩
And these guys are hating on him. Like dude Ali is a gem of you can't handle that don't hate on him.
So it's the Korean equivalent to the Japanese word 'Aniki'?
Ikr that broke my heart
Gi-hun did not suck at every game! Yes, he’s very lucky, but he had the best performance on the second game. He’s probably the ONLY one with an umbrella that passed
Hey man, you speaking some real facts my guy!
I love Gihun sm 🤍
Dude against the gangster passed doing the umbrella as well
She meant he sucked at being a scumbag and now he has the chance to be immoral instead of playing fair!!
actualy gi hun kinda lucked out for every single game 1st game ali saved him 2nd one his sweat gave him insight 3rd game the old man and sang woo carried 4th game the old man let him win 5th game he was saved by the dude who wanted to go first
Ali might be fckng stupid for you all. However, the show did a good job in establishing his character. Sangwoo did nothing but took care of him like a younger brother. He lent him his phone, gave him money for his bus fare, looked out for him, etc. So the last thing that Ali would think for Sangwoo, who he looked up to as an older bro, is to betray him.
Hehe I’m 69th like
Facts
My dumb ass read that as All Might and I was so lost😭
Yeah, I think here we might also benefit a bit from knowing details outside of his perspective. For example we know that Sang Woo was wanted for committing fraud, so he's not new to cheating people. In general we've seen enough of him to get a sense that he can be manipulative, even if he projects a good image. But Ali didn't get to see all that or know his life story like us.
@@TheGoldenAlchemist86 LMAO bruhhh all might in the squid games xD
Noooooooooo yall they made Lupasan cry, we were done a while bk but i watched this ep with my kids today....the silence in my house rn is very real
Love you guys :) ❤️
That scene almost got me 😭
I thought I was imagining it at first when Lupa cried
With your Kids? Wtf man
Huuh how old are your kids bruh
"This man a villain."
*[The audience will remember this.]*
In hindsight, Il nam having Gi Hun messing around the entire game and faking dementia was just a sadist act to play with him before his retirement from the games.
He is the first I have seen who has mentioned the real villian the as early he did. I have been waiting because I told my husband within the first few minutes of them showing him in episode one that he was the game master.
@@elphabarichardson607 You seem to have mastered the same Eye of Foresight that Rudeus got recently lol
Yk dam well he got spoiled because they gave ZERO signs to show he's possibly a villain & if anyone can tell me when there was evidence to prove such a theory then tell me.
@@omaralatorre2485 yup
ali is not stupid, he’s too trusting. he has morals, and got caught up in a situation where he trusted the wrong person and it lost him his life. that was a very tragic ending to his life because the last thing feeling he experienced was betrayal. people’s lives aren’t games and the real villains here are the people who made the games to prey on vulnerable people.
which is stupid 😩
@@dailydoseofyas6441 precisely.... He was a good man no doubt but in a game where blood is as common as water blindly trusting someone is a little stupid
No he was stupid it’s no defending his decision
@@NavW-or2rm how? He trusted a person that saved his life countless times as well as give him a ride home when it was so usual to walk. Stop being so callous
That's called stupid honey
But what she mean "stupid" is how he's giving his marble to stranger that he met in the game which is a person who wanna won the prize and survive too
Despite of Ali's background
Ali was truly the best character in this show. Just about all the others felt like scum bags, but he actually had a heart going in and out. It was just a heart that was too kind and big for his own good.
And everyone hate him because he easily trust people
@@pettanslayer69 I think some people look at it from the wrong angle.
To me Ali can be seen as the... "ignorant" foreigner troupe, he doesnt know how some people in south korea actually are or might be, we also see this with how long he worked for without getting paid at the start of the show. Plus you have to take into account that his partner has been hyped up as a genius and as an amazing man by the main character constantly. It could have been that Ali actually believed this.
Kind of an easy to manipulate guy, sad as hell.
right
I think that's the entire purpose of Ali's character. You can't always live your life being too friendly, positive and trusting of anyone cause there will be some who will use you and benefit selfishly from that kindness. He was too trusting, and that gave him his downfall.
Been waiting for this one. Doesn’t hit 100% the same after the season is over but first watch man... I was goin through it
Yeah man, the last episode was kinda eh until the last 3 minutes
@@williamsonlavioser8042 it started pretty well, then became 😐
@Ayjop don't be spoiling it in the comments smh
@@Silent_Pierre bro the original comment says they finished it they shouldn’t be in the comments
@@isayweirdshityk ?
Damn, you guys are really doing Ali dirty. He had no reason not trust Sang-Woo, because I believe up until that point Sang-Woo really did consider him a friend and a comrade. He wasn't just using him and had grown to like him, and I believe it was mututal.
The problem was... Sang-Woo was ready to manipulate and betray Ali. Ali lacked that instinct to do evil or bad things. That's why he lost.
imo ali could’ve noticed sang woo wasn’t a “true” friend when the other woman (i forgot ur name she was the one that died with the gangster guy) tried to kick him off the alliance and no one stuck up for him
@@logancoleman4507 They had no reason to. She was simply rambling, there was no way she could have kicked him off the team. Sang-Woo doesn't have "friends". That doesn't mean he doesn't feel for people, or can't care for them. Gin-ho was one of them. But he has strong sense of self-preservation, meaning he would always chose his own interest over others.
I mean it literally been only a couple days since they've met, why would he trust someone who only had one marble left. And about to get shot if he lost it.
Everybody’s all attached to him because he’s such a nice guy, but trust goes out the window in a game where death is constantly looming, especially in a ONE ON ONE DEATH MATCH. He shouldn’t have been so naive and did what he had to do.
@@scientia.veritas bro she was literally insulting him. i mean at least tell her to stop. specifically bc he’s been there since the alliance was formed
This episode made me realize how goated this show was, to kill off that many main characters at once.
Edit: since some people don't have a brain, what I meant was the way in which they executed the death of the main cast is what made the show really good, not the fact that they killed characters, I knew they had to die one way or another. Unlike other thriller shows that make characters die in stupid ways or make it feel unnecessary.
Red Wedding...
well a show isn't really good or bad because it kills main characters, but, i mean...we knew they had to die eventually.
They actually didn't kill that many "main" characters that we've followed from the first episode.
@@jamesliggins1885 What they meant was, a show that can make a situation where so many of the main cast dies at once while keeping their characters constant and not making any asspulls, is a good show
@@LoneVocalist Oh my god....
Ji-young's last saying was NOT " I'm honored that we were partners "
She said, " Thank you for playing with me " in Korean
English subs are just awful!
Right!? Bad subs annoy me so much. It literally changes the whole vibe of the scene. I also interpret it as “thank you for doing this with me” She’s not only talking about this particular game, but that Sae byeok picked her in the other game, and them talking in this scene
thats cuz the subs they have is the eng CC for the dub. if it were the official eng subs then it would've said that.
That's what the subs on Netflix said, idk what subs they have.
Better than dubs regardless
Now I get why Sae Byeok doesn't trust anyone, even teammates.
Wait idk why y’all are hating on Ali so much. The whole point of his character was that he was uneducated and extremely fast to trust. Sang-woo also paid for his bus fare and readily accepted him into his team. He had literally zero reason to doubt sang-woo’s intentions. Yes he should have checked the bag but his assumption was that it was the two of them against the others not him against his friends
Ali called sangwo Hyung , that mean brother
So he didn't expect to get betrayed
I little bit disappointed because they look like hate Ali more than sangwo
Ali just a good guy that trust too much on his so called brother , and it look stupid
They watch a series that show an epic big brain moment too much
That's why they can't feel the character who look stupid but a good guy
Bro you gotta think about it. All Ali had to do was look inside the bag, and see if the marbles are really there and he didn’t even do that. He doing this for his entire family and only needed one marble but instead he chose to follow up with Sang Woo bs. It still fascinates me that he didn’t see the shift in sang woo behavior because he was all calm but as soon as he starts losing he flips out.
They literally said that they like his character it just that they were upset for all that situation with sangwoo and him being so gullible but yeah, he didn't have reasons for distrust (i mean, except for common sense but whatever). I hope his family is okay.
@@pettanslayer69 they don’t hate Ali, they’re just calling him stupid which is true. He’s an extremely good guy but it also made him extremely naive and too easily fooled. It’s unfortunate but these games aren’t won through kindness, but sheer luck.
Yeah he trusted Sang-woo. And it sucks because he kept calling Sang-woo Hyung. Sang-woo was the person he trusted the most
I literally bawl every time.. now that it’s over, Ali did piss me off here, but it’s the way he trusted them completely.. he called him brother until the end. Ali just represented the most pure hearted and trusting people.. trust none
Maybe because I majored in business (hated it), or I had business teachers repeat this to me, but them, lawyers, and politicians are the MAIN three to not trust at all with anything. They will do things behind people's back w/o doubt unless caught. You have to beat them at their own greed.
I knew from the beginning that Woo was trash when he tried saying how they won't do things for money, yet was in extreme debt and then learned he used his mom's business as collateral.
@Stolen Content we know.. bye 👋🏽
@Stolen Content lmfao bruh
It's weird to see them refer to everyone as scumbags. Not everyone in Squid Game is a scumbag. Some of them are criminals but the rest are just people in debt desperate to pay it off to survive. They are literally the underrepresented in society that are now just struggling to survive. In fact the creator pointer out how it's a commentary on how capitalism treats people. And calling Ali dumb was way too much.
Well he was dumb or at least borderline ignorant. 33 years of living and he still doesn’t understand how the world works even 8 year olds are weary of people.
@@ab5724 Or you know just trusting of people who have helped saved his life multiple times. So no not borderline dumb or ignorant. He wanted to have himself and Sang woo get to the next game together, and Sang Woo only made to switch when Ali was distracted by a gunshot. Even 50 year old are weary of people and still get betrayed and tricked, it's got nothing to do with age.
@@ab5724 he would have never reached that far if sang woo didn’t help him so he had every right to trust him
@@ab5724 well to be fair i can understand why ali would trust sang woo, ali didnt trust sang woo for no reason, cause sangwoo helped ali before. And ali is probably the type never forgets people's kindness towards him.
@@johnburright3898 Actually false but go off.
“Epstein didn’t kill himself” I’m dead, lol.
SAME!
Epstein is dead as well.
@@PatrickBatemanPierceAndPierce but not by himself
Timestamp??
@@Just_A_Random_Desk you sure about that?
ali is not stupid. he’s just really gullible and assumed sangwoo was a selfless person like he was. unfortunately he wasn’t right
THANK YOU
Gullibility is a sign of stupidity. What he did was incredibly stupid.
If you think it ain't then you're definitely one of the people who won't make it far in this game.
@@murpsauce7168 being gullible doesn’t equate to stupidity. it means innocence and bad judgement. even the smartest ppl can be manipulated and i’m not in the game am i? you’re taking this a little too seriously lmao
Nah he was definitely stupid. It’s kind of common sense to not trust your opponent in a 1v1 death game. It was honestly really stupid of him to put so much trust in a person that he just met through this shady game.
@@monay6576 We're surrounded by idiots.
Ali was a realistic character. Totally not cut out for this kind of situation. You cant win this type of game by being nice
Or stupid like Ali was
@@kwoncherry118 He wasn’t stupid. Just naive.
@@immanuela209 He was a grown as man with a wife and child to get home to.. he was stupid.
@@immanuela209he trusted his opponent in a 1v1 death game he was stupid,gullible,and naive
In korea you cant mute the sound when taking pictures. Incase people try to take pictures of someone without the permission.its so people can be aware of their surroundings. 2:00
Fascinating! That’s genuinely good info! We should do that in other countries.
That's actually smart of them considering the issues they face.
한국인인데 지금 알았네요 감사합니다I'm Korean, but I just found out. Thank you.
@@3xPin do what? invade peoples freedom on what to do with their phones?
I am Korean but if I was in that situation, I would have blocked the speaker part with my hand
This episode was so heartbreaking man really got me in the feels and normally I don’t cry at a lot of things, Ali really deserved better man, same with the girl, they all did. 💔💔💔
RIGHT! Especially the man who was partnered with his wife :'(
Y'all totally neglected the relation between Ali and Sang Woo, he isn't stupid, he was looking up to him, man... he was probably the only one who was good to him before.
Other reactors: Poor Ali, he was played 🥺
Them: Stupid
😂😂😂
Which is true that Ali is stupid top 4 fav
fr everybody else be crying and they’re just out here calling him stupid 😭😭💀
@@lanakat well it is true he's kindness and trust on his partner makes him a stupid he trust so much that make him easy to play
Cause both this reactions are true though. What he did is stupid but you can't help but still feel bad for him cause he trusted him.
Other reactors don't tell you what they really think. They pander to what you want to see.
These guys don't give a shit. They'll say what's on their mind, and in this case they're right. You can cry about it, but that was incredibly stupid.
entrcpy here: Smartphone camera sounds in Japan and Korea can’t be turned off because of upskirt photos / laws.
Yup!
Bruh
@@azure89 lol I still have a few minutes of video left, but that was the first comment of theirs. Lol, Rosh. He CAN’T
Oh right, i remember that.
I mean but bro is undercover like what if someone just hears the phone taking picture he would have died there.
The thing about Ali's character is he didn't feel the need to check because he wouldn't do that to Sangwoo. We kind of saw how he had no reason to risk himself to save Gi Hun in the first round but he did so unconditionally. Judging people by his own nature, he just never realized that people may have hidden agendas regardless of their surface-level kindness for you.
Goes the other way too, in real life I've seen a lot of friends who betrayed/talked shit about me always assumed I was doing the same to them. You expect from people who you are to them.
Yes, wise words.This is exactly all it is
Yup I agree
This was one of the most painful episodes 100%
true it had me swimming in my own tears
i was literally punching the laptop screen cuz i was so angry at sangwoo lmao
Man sae bae yock is my favorite character episode 8 had me down all the way bad
my first watch of this episode i just went full blown crying. i didn't even care that my mum was watching with me lmfao
I understand being upset at Ali, but I wouldn't say he's stupid. Or at least he didn't deserve to be derided that much. His character is of a naive foreigner who trusted and cared for his friends, ESPECIALLY Sang-woo for paying for his call and a bus ticket. Ali probably never experienced generosity like that at all so he became overly trusting of him. But Sang-woo was clearly not some generous friend like Ali saw him as. So it makes so much sense for him to trust Sang-woo in that moment since HE had no evidence that Sang-woo was truly that cold.
WE had that evidence. Ali did not.
I get its a death game and all, but you also really have to look at Ali's perspective and his character. The way he acted was consistent with his character. If you defend Sang-woo for doing what he had to do to survive, then you have to acknowledge that Ali did what he BELIEVED he had to do to ensure he and his friend survived.
I'd be far more mad at Sang-woo for pulling something that cold and heinous with someone who didn't deserve it, than to call Ali stupid for not predicting that his closest friend in this game was ready to manipulate and betray him.
You worded it perfectly 👏👏
To play a game where you have to eliminate people and STILL trusting that they won’t do you wrong is stupid. Ali is kind and naive and this is not the place for that. It’s something he should’ve known 🤷🏻♀️ still sad for the guy, but it is what it is
@@user-lc1lb8lp8k then why did they form a team in the first place?? There was still a certain level of trust within groups but still having the means to be a survivor... Plus they don't know how many will be winners but I'd give it to Sang-woo to figuring out early that there's most likely only one winner
No he’s stupid “oh he was nice to him” so 5 minutes ago he snapped on Ali but yeah poor guy🤣
@@JessYapping Sure but again you have to understand Ali's character and perspective. Being snapped at by Sang-woo was not a strong enough reason for Ali distrust him. Snapping because you suspect cheating doesn't equal being a manipulator. Not from Ali's perspective at that point.
Honestly, i was a little shocked by your reaction of blaming Ali and calling him stupid. 😢😢 If you call all the characters ‘ scumbags’ after having watched the series so far, I feel you are missing to understand what human beings are like in our real society. Even though the participants of squid game were living tough lives and ended up being in a cruel death game, the characters are no different from people you see in the real world.. And Ali was the only one who wanted to trust his friend and to survive together… I felt so heartbroken that he was betrayed by someone he thought a friend..
They only blamed him because they really wanted him to survive.
What's there to miss? He was gullible and in hindsight they only formed an alliance to get ahead of the game. Ali lowkey had it coming for being too nice in a dangerous game.
@@Oni_1 it’s cause Sangwoo was nice to him outside of the game so Ali actually trusted him.
I think they’re just kinda mad cuz of how clueless they made Ali
I mean most of them are scumbags like the main character is a big scumbag but you get attached with him because of his actions in the squid game
Ali is just too innocent for this kinda of game 😭 he trusted him for real tho
i think is not really that he is naive,
the problem most of the time is not that you are innocent but you give a lot of trust to people
that hope you got for others to have standards
@@Dan_Kanerva that hope/trust is what makes him naive
all these comments are calling him naive, but he genuinely trusted sang-woo. even in the circumstances, i do think they were building a bit of a friendship. i think he did sense something off, but didn't want to believe it.
@@nocturnal3427 facts, he felt betrayed at the end if people feel this way it's bcz they already have some kinda of feelings.
Its been taking a day off ever since she thought the second game was gonna involve doo doo😭😭😭
Sangwoo chose Ali because if the game was cooperative, he could use Ali's physicality. If it was competitive, he could outsmart him. The man graduated from Seoul National University; he knew what he was doing.
21:35 "Go ahead, look at your rocks" Lol Shera a demon
God i love her🤣
i don’t think they really understood ali’s character
@Joseph Joestar I might be wrong but I don't think only one person can win the grand prize. I think they said whoever makes it through the 6 games will get the money, and the last game was squid game (a team game) so it should be possible for more than one person to win the grand prize.
@@webhead_22 yep exactly thats why Gi-hun tried to make a pact with Sae to take out Sang-Woo for the last game and split the money before noticing Sae dying
@Joseph Joestar what … are you talking about .. ?? i mean, i agree with everything that you said (you quite literally stated the obvious), but what i meant by my comment is that they thought it was out of character and incredibly stupid of ali to do that when… it was to be expected..?? ali always heard anyone out and clearly cared a lot for sangwoo, so i don’t think it was necessarily out of character
@Joseph Joestar like .. i’m *pretty* sure you just elaborated on my point lol
@@78gif whether it’s out of character or not, it’s still stupid.
This video made me realize that Lupa is my favorite of the 3. His compassion throughout the whole episode earned my respect. Thanks Lupasan! 🙏
Facts I like him more them roshi and Sheera
Gi-hun doesn't think the old man is letting him win. He's about to cry because he feels like he's taking advantage of his friend's brain degeneration in order to win
Ali didnt know what these games were. He trusted the one that explained everything to him.
I'm not surprised at all with the other two reactions to Ali's death since they're known to be very judgmental towards fictional characters whenever they do something that they consider "dumb", but I wasn't expecting Lupa's reaction.
I thought he'd be the one to laugh off most of the emotional moments in this episode, turned out he's the only one crying at the end.
I don't get them saying all these people are scumbags. They're just in a lotta debt and are desperate to survive/win.
I was actually kind of surprised that Lupa was the one being more sympathetic 😅 I expected him to joke around or something but nope, him crying made me cry even more bruh
They legit are scumbags no offense. Gi hun is a deadbeat and is/was selfish. People only felt bad for him bc of how he acted in the squid game. Sangwoo is str8 trash and I think we all knew that. Ali is stupid for trusting a stranger in a death game, even though what happened was sad. Sae-byeok stole from people, trusted the wrong people, and was in gang and probably did other stuff. We won’t speak on the old man though 😭
Not an indictment of him, but: Lupa's typically the one to get in his feels.
All of them is a bad guy even the main character spent all of her mom's insurance and asking his ex to pay for him
Instead of going to work or find a job he choose to selfreward himself too much
Sae byok (not sure it speel right)
But she hardly run from North Korea then regret it, she wanna back for her mom, people know how expensive it was to pass the river, usually it cost 10m won to get out from north korea. But for back there?40m korean won is cheap considering the guide who gambling over their life to make her back without noticed by the army
This is a dirty game, this movie is lit how they make ppl that scumbag looks good in another point of view with showing the humanity side. Everybody fight for the prize and everybody who comeback know they'll be eliminated there.
Ppl crying over Ali bcs he's an imigrant that treat badly not sure he's legal or illegal imigrant but he have no one to trust, when ppl treat him well he'll treat them more. He's not a pickpocket, he didnt scam his company, he's not a mafia, he didnt use his parent's money for stupid things. He just got unlucky in Korea
In the end this move show us how fk up the reality is, even humanity side of a criminal can change people's point of view
@@dailydoseofyas6441 yea the old Man is a different breed😭🙌🏿
Calling Ali stupid and not taking in the scene was really annoying. The guy is naive, trusting and has a good heart. They've established this over and over. It's his character. He looked up to Sungwoo like an older brother (he literally calls him it) and really thought he wanted them both to get out. The whole point of the episode was the tragic irony of the relationships that have formed and the characterisations of the players in those pairings. Sheera was particularly obnoxious to watch this time around. Not understanding the characters and paying attention to the interaction of the scene makes you spout ignorance at the screen. You were dead wrong but doubled down so hard.
Thank you! I was irritated with this reaction towards Ali when it’s been specific that he’s naive and it’s his downfall.
Lol, what's fun about reactions is how people would react differently.
Don't take it seriously
I was seriously pissed off at them when they were insulting him. I was having such a good time watching their reaction but damn that triggered me
@@lorane_fantasyandfun same this was the episode I was mostly looking forward too but the reaction was not it
I mean I agree with their reactions
I'm not feeling sad about this especially cause this is a DEATH GAME
U being too trusting will screw u over
Look at the second game or the night game
Ali was great but that doesn't mean what he did in this episode wasn't a good choice
U trust somebody in a 1v1 death match
Naivety makes bad choices
Like Roshi said "Sungwoo did what he had to do" u can trust people but have that trust be at an arm's length
You guys call him Sangwoo,
but you can tell that Ali calls him sang woo "hyung". Although "hyung" is a Korean word that means older brother,
he is used as a friendly expression to refer to a person above whom he trusts and follows. Ali dies calling him his brother until the very end.
So it breaks my heart even more.
Subtitles don't use honorifics, hell, those aren't even the right subs.
how do you know that ? are you Korean ?
if you know this only because you are a koreeaboo then don't expect anyone that doesn't regurlarly watch korena media to understand those notions...
I don't expect my mom to know what "kun" , "chan" or "san" means when she watches a Ghibli movie
@@Dan_Kanerva That’s exactly why they are explaining it. Where in the comment do you see them say they expect everyone to know what it means? I honestly don’t get why you’re so triggered
And yes, in places the subs are so off it changes the vibe like at 22:19.
The subs say “I’m honored that we were partners” but she actually says “thank you for doing it with me/playing with me”
To me that changes the meaning a lot cause you know she’s not only talking about them playing together, but that Saebyeok approached her in the first place, and that she’s thankful they got to know each other.
@@nouraouni2819 when calling something out means "u triggered"... please get a new card.
@@Dan_Kanerva are you ok? There’s big mistranslation throughout the whole show
i don’t get how they’re laughing their ass off at alis death. That shit made me cry but they legit insulted him.
You are too much in your feels they liked Ali they were heated they made him go out like that and made him clueless. Which I agree with. I was pissed at him too for being to gullible in a game where you know people will die and people are scumbags and will do anything to survive.
bc its a show
17:58. If you didn’t see that coming then im sorry.
@@joshawnthabeast what
it’s a game where you’re supposed to eliminate people 😶 man was too naive and it costed him. it was stupid of him to trust sang woo, it’s not wrong to say that..
sangwoo is so well written. hes a terrible gambler but an amazing strategist. the writers did their job to make him unlikable.
it makes it more sad with ali calling for sangwoo “hyung”- hes calling him older brother OMG
Sang-woo also calls Gi-hun 'hyung'. Which makes the end even sadder.
@@astorlefflinker8417 ah shit please stop
In the game of life and death,there is no brother
Ali was already portrayed to be naive and trusting, his “teammates” the core ones at least have helped him and together they made it through, you can say it was stupid for him not to check or to trust someone that and showed him kindness before and until now hadn’t done anything to him for him to think he’s untrustworthy but that’s Ali’s character stupid as it was not to check or just say no I think this just goes to show you that sometimes it’s the people you feel are closest to you that will be the first ones to stab you in the back :(
I don't usually cry watching "sad" things but the girl sacrificing herself made me tear up, what happened to Ali was sad too but I didn't hit me that hard
Same! Everyone is talking about Ali, but for me, the girl who has no one to go back to, was excited to have a friend even for a short time, and sacrifice herself stung me more.
@@thgritic102 Exactly, say if Ali wife found out about his death, she would mourn him. The girl had no one from the outside to mourn her death, so having a new friend for what little time, who can is honorable.
It made me cry too, especially because it turns out her father was a pastor. Mine is too. He didn’t physically kill my mom, but mentally and emotionally as he is a narcissist. It has broken our family, and made me turn from religion. I didn’t even realize earlier why she was so anti prayer, I was laughing during that scene cause deep down I could relate. I’m not anti prayer per say but anti organized religion and really religion in general
They were both sad but for different reasons.
@@futo 067 could mourn her death because they were friends
i think the point some might be missing about ali is that it's been set up for his character the whole time to be trusting and see the best in people, even willing to put their lives before his own (as he did with Gi-hun in the very first game). he's also a pretty simple guy. he didn't check his bag because he didn't want to believe that sang-woo, the guy who gave him money for the bus when he didn't have to, would ever cheat him. stupid, sure. but he was who he was until the end. i think this episode was a pretty good payoff in general for everything we've learned about these characters up until this point and that may be lost in debating who was smart and who was stupid, etc, which really isn't the main focus of this episode
I don't like how y'all are insulting Ali for trusting Sang Woo. As the audience, we saw Sang Woo had traiterous tendencies. However, Ali being the kind hearted and good natured character he trusted Sang Woo innocently. I just don't get why you are insulting him when he had no idea of how evil Sang Woo was. You kept saying he was an idiot and laughing for his mistrust without grabing the essence of the character himself. To me his death was the saddest because of how innocent he was and him being betrayed really hurt (you shouldn't be laughing bcos it's easy to suppose something when you're watching the show from outside)
That doesn’t make him not dumb?🤣yeah sure he’s a great nice guy but really fuckN dumb
He is that a fact. We all love Ali but we can't desagree actually
Cool. Nice guy. Still dumb. lol
insult? theyre just giving insights/opinion its true this happens alot in real life thats y yall should not trust anyone sangwoo just played the game he wants to survive in this round but yea he still an as*hole, ali is my fave but theyre rivals in this game stop being so softie lmaooo
Damn..every people have different reaction, so you can't expect people were thinking the same way when watching Ali trusting Sang Woo or whoever the fuck his name..and honestly you people, you hate people with different reaction than yourself to this scene??..damn too emotional
"Sheeragan taking a day off today." bruh the editor is to much. 🤣
she ran out of chakra
time stamp?
Time stamp please, i think i missed it 😔
People seem to like and dislike Ali characters.
I'm Korean, but I don't think Ali is that foolish, so I think Ali is enough person in reality.
It may be a cultural difference.
Ali seems to have trusted Sangwoo a lot.
The saddest part of this reaction was seeing you guys shit talk Ali when what it came down to most of all was that he couldn't bear to sentence a friend that had showed him kindness to death. Yes he was naive for one moment, but does that deserve *hate* ?
This episode clearly seperates people. Look at the different reaction between Lupasan and the others. Lupasan showed emotion because he know's that he'd make Ali's choice. It's quite interesting though because an argument could be made as to when does loyalty go too far? I argue on Ali/Lupasan's behalf: I'd rather die doing what's morally right than live a winner by deciet. Let me know your opinions on this!
@@TheMiamiHeat I don't understand this cause you doing what you think is morally right just die leaves your wife and infant child lost and alone in a foreign country. You are participating in a game that when people die you get more money, that doesn't sound morally correct to me that's you taking advantage of their death, so I wanna win for my family and expect others to do the same. Participating in this game is the last resort your morals are out the window, he was dumb to trust a man he met two or three days ago.
@@jasoncarvalho588 Eh I disagree with you respectfully. I feel that morals aren't thrown out of the window here, and that was shown in how Ali was the only person who was in debt for something he couldn't control (His boss wasn't paying him for 6 months). I argue that they build Ali as how humans should be: Kind, loving, and trustworthy. The perfect human. Then they tear him apart by showing that in our world today, people are not all Kind, loving and trustworthy. We are selfish and greedy. We are liars and backstabbers. We are flawed.
@@TheMiamiHeat I dodnt think the show is making a statement on how every human should act also, why would the show make him naive if he's suppose to be the perfect human, that never existed or will.
Being naive is a bad trait you can be a good person without being easily manipulated, also is not a "nowadays" situation that people are selfish. That has existed since forever and I the past carrying for someone that is foreign and outside your "tribe" was even.more unlikely.
Lol chill it’s just a show lmao
Wow, the disrespect on Ali from you guys all because, the point of his character was that he’s a man who is too trusting, kind-hearted, and willing to put himself on the line like saving Gi-Hun, is so unnecessary. Like anybody like him with that kind of mindset would’ve been in the same situation. I’ve seen other better reactors who all agree that what happen to Ali was messed up and actually felt bad for him and don’t blame him for that or hold anything of him being stupid for not expecting to be played because the purpose of his character and what happen to him was the show people/viewers that anybody like him can be easily betrayed by those you see as friends or brothers and not expect or see it coming. But whatever.
Being trusting is different from being stupid. Ali was both. He got played by a switcheroo a 7 year-old would have seen coming. Yall in your feelings just because you like the character, without realizing that you're infantilizing what's supposed to be 33 year-old grown man. Literally put some pebbles in a bag and that was enough lmao. The simple truth is that part was badly written. The author disrespected Ali with that move.
If u played this game, You would be dead with this kind of mindset
@@ulysseh4598 Well the fans are too much emotional tho seeing their favourite character were dying without knowing the real context of the scene
He is in a game, no shit he got played. Are they better because they agree with you? Also, it was his fault he is in a game that all the previous games when the clock stops and the task isn't done the people die. People die maybe use your head, don't be dumb or so naive, and get used by a guy you met two or three days ago.
Nobody is reading all that. Ali was stupid
Ali has probably never met a Korean who was nice to him since he's a immigrant and at work he's treated like shit. So maybe since sang Soo was nice to him earlier, he trusted him
I love how Lupasan called out that they'd have to kill each other, laughing and everything when predicting it, but when the announcer made it official, he looked so broken inside lol
Ali had been shown multiple times not being the smartest. He had to be told how to play the games and everything. He trusted Sangwoo deeply and thought they were friends.
i mean not knowing the games doesnt mean you're not smart. he doesnt know it cuz he's not from korea. he's more along the lines of "gullible and naive".
@@SaffeeBear basically he was too nice for his own good, he also trusted the guy because he helped him both inside and outside the game before
@@SaffeeBear well he also doesn’t know what odd and even mean so I think that implies that he’s not smart
@@JuanJimenez-lh4be i actually assumed that he didn't know the words in Korean because he understood when Sangwoo explained
@@JuanJimenez-lh4be he's a foreigner so maybe he doesn't know what it meant because its korean??? (If that makes sense)
Sae Byeok storyline in this episode hurt more than the others to me I think it’s underrated 🤧
Yep, specially when the girl asked her if the South is better and there was no answer. In a way, she's been playing a death game since she and her family decided to defect to South Korea. They not only need to worry about border security, security in China, but also scammers.
@@astorlefflinker8417 sae byeok is from north korea
@@lin6705 North Korean defectors mostly have to go through China, not straight to South Korea. That's why when Sae-byeok was talking to that man who helped them escape from North Korea in episode 2, China was mentioned.
I feel like when people judge the character's actions, we forget that the game is literally life or death. So I can't really be mad at Gi-hun for cheating the old man.
This episode had me crying so hard
Lupa crying this episode made me cry. I’ve never seen him cry.
And rengoku he cried
He cried in the Vinland Saga finale
@@henoch2579 and Shield hero
Psssh Ive cried like 8 times 😂😂😂
He is the main one that cries the most on this couch.
Everytime I see someone say "he did what he had to do" and "you would have done the same things", my first thought is "speak for yourself !"
Ali, Jiyong and Saebyeok were good during the whole game, they helped people or sacrificed themselves.
People are so scary, cuz monsters like Sangwoo are being seen as smart. Damn, the man was ready to sacrifice a hyung he has known for years since the 2nd game...
That man had a good education and a good job, but because he was greedy, he started doing document forging and embezzlement and got caught. Life wasn't hard to him, he made it hard for himself. What was he fighting so hard for? He was ready to kill himself and leave his mom with all his debts. He deserves nothing and Ali's life was worth more than his. He should have just taken the bullet and let Ali alone
Sungwoo kept his head in the Game and the prize money the whole time; which is literally what you're there for. When everyone came back for a second time , they all knew the stakes and the cost of winning. This was a competition to the death and if this were real life, there would be a lot more Sungwoo's and probably worse people. I have a lot to say on your last paragraph but I'ma just leave it with: a story that encompasses how humans function in a capitalistic society can't be condensed into black and white concepts.
@@REChronic54 rightttt!!! People are legit being so soft rn because if you were in that situation you’re not saving no damn stranger especially if you came back a second time and have something/someone outside of the game…
sangwoo did absolutely nothing wrong this episode. what he did in the honeycomb game was more immoral than this. it's literally a death game, you do what you gotta
yeah instead of doing it in the last game he should have killed himself earlier and maybe there would be one less orphan and one less widow in a foreign mf country arghh
The comment that makes the most sense is right here. Finally someone understands. I had a beautiful few weeks before remembering there’s actually people like SangWoo in the world. And worse, they think everyone around them is just as selfish and greedy as they are
Sangwoo knew what had to be done, he knew that only one would remain if the money was gonna be won over. Sure he did some stuff to beloved characters but you can't really blame him, he was in it for the money
you also have to remember everyone is here of there own free will they got out and came back knowing they could die so at they end of the day its all his own choices
SPOILER :
Let’s say that Sang Woo didn’t kill Byeok before these two and Gi hun played the final game, wouldn’t they have been 2 winners since one of them would have been against the two others ? (either 1 attacker vs two defender or 2 attacker vs 1 defender)
@@goldenboi23-adisneyburnera6 If he didn't kill her then she would have died of her injury before the next game started
@@Notme-255 but let’s say that she manage to live until the final game start, how would that work ?
Judging by the last game, it was possible to have an entire group of winners. The show did the "last man standing" trope for extra tension.
It’s weird, but the random girl that we knew for 2 episodes made me hurt the most lol
ikr we barely knew her yet felt so connected :(
Technically both partners can survive at the marbles game. The rules say you gotta play a game, where you take all ten marbles from your partner, but they never said you gotta have 20 marbles at the end. So if they just switched marbles both could have survived.
Oh shit that's kinda true!
possible but they may have been a mistranslation in the subtitles
I actually teared up to the girls’ conversation and how she was saying that she didn’t have anything to live for. I was too mad to cry for Ali tho I still hate sang woo 🤣
I don’t think Ali deserves that much blame. He fully trusted Sang Woo and didn’t expect him to lie like that. Sang woo took advantage of the fact that Ali is too kind and would definitely choose the path where they would both live so he fabricated a lie to string Ali along. They also showed people constantly looking over to see who got shot to help set up the switcheroo. I don’t think Ali was dumb, just too trusting.
nah it's all his fault. it's UNDERSTANDABLE that he did what he did, yeah. but it's still all on him
I cried the most over Ji-Yeong … this episode broke me
Ali was too pure-hearted for the Squid Games
I've watched this for like so many times, I'm still tearing up.
Sang Woo doesn't know anything specific about what games are coming, but he is highly intuitive. What Gi-hun says is accurate: Sang Woo is very intelligent (which is why it bothers Sang Woo every time Gi-Hun mentions it; it paints a target on Sang Woo's back). Sang Woo, just like everyone watching, figured that it might come down to getting rid of your partner, which is why he didn't pick Gi-Hun. In the event he was wrong, he still had a strong partner in Ali, so it was win-win.
Haven’t even watched it and i’m already tearing up again ✋🙄
Side note: The people never said you had to have 20 marbles. You just had to have your partners’s 10 marbles. They coulda played catch and switched bags..
Ali 😭🕊
fly high jiyeong and ali😭
Yo same 😭
This a mood 😭
try to watch it
Song woo is the only one showing him kindness in korea. he offer his phone and cash when ali outside he he also save him have idea tug of war. he give his bread for ali. Ali like he very care of me. thats why ali save not eat his egg and give for song woo. he trust him thats why called he like brother.
but all they say is dumb dumb dumb. yes. im mean i know he stupid (too trust). but somehow they dont get it. everyone mocking him. thats very sad.
Y'all trolling Ali but he was one of my favourites. That man was wholesome and good and went out that way😭
Lupasan being me and feeling for every death this episode, I was BAWLING though hahahaahah
Always a pleasure seeing your reactions!!
I literally was looking for this 1 minute ago and y’all just posted it lmao read my mind
I will not tolerate this Ali slander! He was not stupid, he was just a sweet person. It would never occur to him to betray a friend that way, so he trusted Sangwoo as his friend who helped him and took care of him so much. Ecpecting people to do the fair or decent thing isn't stupidity. It just means he didn't have the character for betrayal and had never been betrayed before.
"He's already lost his marbles."
BAZZING!!!
ALI ISN'T SPEAKING HINDI. MY MANS LITERALLY SAID HE WAS FROM PAKISTAN, HE'S SPEAKING URDU. Still, as a Pakistani, the representation is much appreciated
I was supposed to visit Pakistan to trek to the base of K2 mountain. Beautiful country!❤️
@@SmileyAdventures Oh wow, that’s really cool, and also thank you! I’ve unfortunately never been anywhere outside of Karachi since that’s where my grandparents and extended family, but I definitely want to explore the country when I have the and time.
Hindi and urdu r very similar ,both countries can understand each others language ,coz pakistan is indian sub-continent
What's sad is finally Jeong and Sae were bonding together. If there were different circumstances, things would be different. They were just wrong people at the wrong time.
Most of people get it wrong with Sang Woo. He ain’t evil, he is just doing whatever it takes to survive. He doesn’t enjoy betrayal, he doesn’t do bad things for fun or something like that. He only does what’s best for him. That doesn’t make him the worst person ever. Just makes him cold as ffff.
He let his team and friend die in the umbrella game. He is cold.
Someone said that he's the perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy. He kept killing and killing (like he kept investing money) because stopping would mean that all his prior loss was for nothing. That's why he killed himself rather than let Gi-hun get them both out alive. All his awful actions couldn't have been for nothing.
@@blueskybelyr is it really awful if you're playing a game to the death. Being nice would just get you killed
@@blueskybelyr spoiler much?
@@mariekano9730 bestie if you're this deep in comments and comment replies on a reaction video, I'm not your first spoiler, lmao
“Oh, yeah. In this game you gonna kill yo partner! [chuckle]”
2 minutes later:
😦
“He forgot he was in a room full of scum bags. Except for the old guy!”
Everyone who has seen the ending of the show: 😐👀
It wasn't bait
You can't tell me this comment ain't a spoiler
Why is that emoji the exact face he made lol
@@benc35728 I mean they’re already done with the show on their patreon
No spoilers please
luppa predicting correctly and being gravely disappointed he's right. lol
Ep.6 will go on the history as one of the emotional episode ever made 😭💔
Actually, in Korea, by law, all cellphones must make a sound when you take pictures, you can't mute the sound. This is due to the fact that there were massive cases of perverted people taking pictures of mostly woman in trains, on buses, in bathrooms, so the government passed the law that all phones in Korea must make sounds when taking pictures as a safety measure.
Couldn’t you just disable the sound
@@chrischika7026 you're not the brightest are you
@@chrischika7026 phones dont have that function. That's the law
The law should have made an exemption for law enforcement though just saiyan
@@noholla main comment never especified that the device itself doesn't allow people to turn the noise-for-photo feature on... he just said "you can't mute the sound" . One could easily believe this is bound to legal action only.
Guess you're not the brightest one
Ali was NOT stupid, do you even understand him.
Of cause he have to trust Sang Woo, Sangwoo was so kind to him since the first day.
Sangwoo let Ali used his phone, Sangwoo gave his money to come home, gave him his breakfast and only Gihun know that Sangwoo have problem (after the Honeycorn game).
I’m working abroad just like Ali and when some natives people helped me like that I will very grateful.
He trust Sangwoo with all of his heart, he is not stupid. He is so kind that he don’t even think about Sangwoo being so bad like that.
Sorry for my bad English but I love all the characters in this movie. They are so humans and they just do what they truly are. They are not stupid.
Everybody shitting on Sang woo, but I 100% would do that with no hesitation if it means i can survive, get out, and see my family again..
lol sang woo wasn't doing that for his family. he was doing that for himself.
but yes, at the end of the day, it's you or the other person
Would you also do what he did in the Dalgona game?
I would probably be among those people, who if did survive the 1st game, I would never come back here..
That's what everyone says in death games no matter how shit a character is and an asshole there are there's still people commenting the same thing over and over
@@wowa1834 It's the truth though.
It is sad when you trust a person so much to the point of believing they are friends and they betray you like that, that scene made me feel sorry for him because he trusted him. His attitude may be naive , but it shows when a person has goods and real feelings.
Ji-Yeong went from middle school to seeing her mom dead to killing her dad to jail to squid games to death. Shes done with life.
Sang Woo was the only one who understood the assignment. He's my favorite hands down.
Nah sangwoo was a snake idk how he can be your favorite I can understand his methods but dont grovel to my knees and respect him (like most people do)
@@Him_000 bro it's do or die, you're telling me you're gonna willingly give up your life for a stranger just to be nice? Lmfao I'd scam the hell out of the other person too.
Honestly, thinking back after what happens...I agree partially.
@@mauby6781 Damn re nazi, lmao, but it's obvious he won by being cunning and smarter than his partner (which wasn't too hard) otherwise he would be defeated by sheer dumb luck.
@@mauby6781 Thank you 👏🏽 it’s seems these comments forgot that this is a game of life or death at this point. If this game was for just the money than yeah sang woo would’ve been wrong but this is his life on the line. And also these ppl just met a few days ago it would be dumb asf to put 100% of ur trust in them 😭
Ali trusted his “friend” more than he trusted himself and he got killed for it.
Ji-Young was so thoughtful and considerate that at the very end she did everything in her power to take the load off Sae-Byeok's shoulders telling her "thank you", that it wasn't her fault. The same with the Oh-Il-Nam the old man. Also, "Sae-Byeok" in Korean means "dawn".
In Korean "hyung" means "older brother" and is very informal/loving in a language and culture where formalities/etiquette mean everything, you'd *only ever* call someone "hyung" if you're blood, or very close and only if they permit you to do so. Until the very end, Ali was calling Sang-Wu "hyung" because he genuinely trusted and cared for him.
This is definitely the most heart breaking episode I've ever watch.
Don't be soo harsh with Ali, everyone is not made to be cut-throat.
Everything Ali and Sang woo did was entirely in character. Sang Woo in his introduction was the only one who read the fine print regarding the games 3rd rule. He also shared that information despite wanting to continue. Giving others an out even at his own expense. He displayed the characteristics that Gi-Hun bragged about, except Ali actually experienced it. He respected him and spoke to him with honorifics, which Sang Woo eventually reciprocated by telling Ali to refer to him as Sang Woo Hyung. Used to describe a brother. Ali went into the game with zero reason to doubt this man based on cultural reasons foreign to some. Sang Woo was always morally gray, and pretty dubious but he did enough to benefit the team that it's reasonable to think he'd find them another out.
When ali gives all his marbles to sang-woo i'm literally stop watching this episode about 5-6 hours, i still can't believe it
The guy continued working for his employer in a foreign country without getting paid for 6 months. So for me that scene was believable. Ali was naive as hell.
@@astorlefflinker8417 someone not giving you all the money they own you , and losing your life... they are VERY different scenarios . I give my friends a pass when they tell me "yeah _i am gonna give you your 50 bucks_ back" and don't return it until months have passed... but in this scenario i would have called bs the second Sangwoo said "give me your marbles"
@@Dan_Kanerva You and I are not Ali. It's as simple as that. Like I said, Ali's character has been set up as a naive one from the start. He didn't get paid for 6 months and still continued working. Sang-woo also showed him kindness by letting him borrow his phone and giving him money for a bus ride. For naive people like Ali that has a lot of effect. Go back to episode 5 when they were giving each others' names, and when Sang-woo told Ali to "just call me hyung", Ali's face lit up and was really flattered. Hyung means big brother in Korea and if you're calling someone hyung, that means you are close. Also, when they were told to partner up, Sang-woo chose Ali over his childhood friend Gi-hyun. That made Ali think that Sang-woo respects him, and acknowledges him as a dependable person. I think all those things make the scene of him naively giving his marbles to Sang-woo believable. He probably thought that there's a possibility that Sang-woo was tricking him, but he didn't want to believe it himself because Sang-woo have always been kind to him.
@@astorlefflinker8417 Ali is not "Ali" either... he is a fictional character made extra dumb in that scene on purpose for the sake of plot , because otherwise we wouldn't have that final battle . The point is that it ain't realistic and takes you away... even a child would have checked the bag as soon as they went different directions
@@Dan_Kanerva If we're gonna go down the path of "these are just fictional characters" then we dont really have anything to talk about anymore. Have a good day.
Remember watching this first time and man the feels was real for this episode ,you can definitely see more changes in sang-woo’s character as the season progresses on
Damn ya'll are the most cold-blooded people lol. The girl on the left and the guy in the middle: the only people I've seen on TH-cam who weren't sad at Ali's death and the guy in the middle just had a smug look on his face the whole episode haha. Shout out to the guy on the very right--he's a real one! :)
Well I didn't cry in Ali's death they look Ali so stupid in this ep for the Oldman I got spoiled only to the 2 girl
Mahhnnn Ji-Yeong's death hit me the most, her backstory and having nothing to go back to left me tearing up especially for a character only introduced an episode ago OOF :_(