Stayed for Bob. Liked the vid for Bob. Bob blink twice if you're in danger. I don't really care about the phonograph, but we all care about you Bob. Stay safe bud. Sincerely, AP World History, Section 32
@@The_Hero_Hunter my inner history nerd is coming out. Edison wasn’t really an inventer. He was a business man that owned a firm and stamped his name on everything his firm invented. He wasn’t a good person. Tesla is the real inventor history needs to credit.
It really is crazy. It's amazing. I wish I could thank the creators somehow, my life would really suck if I couldn't listen to, or record music. It improves my life every day.
haha, i came here from a rabbit hole of video of someone playing some old classics and was curious about "what is a wax Cylinder?" now I've learned the history of the phonograph, and how they work in the past hour! The internet is amazing.. although, I don't think I'll ever have any use this information, it's been a fun rabbit hole, and it never hurts to learn, right? ...Right? (Lol, I need to go to bed) Also, as an amateur musician, this is just so amazing to me. Talk about a pioneer, the first to record sound! That is, to me, one of the most amazing inventions, up there with cameras. Such a cool thing to understand and see.
nice clean sounding cylinder.....so hard to find these days and the reproduction cylinders never seem to reach the quality of the originals. Still, glad there are companies out there making the reproductions. Mark
Amazing! I was reading a Sherlock Holmes novel and they mentioned one of these. I had never heard of them and so I had to look it up. Thank you for the upload 👍 amazing stuff!
R.I.P. Bob. Gone but not forgotten. May the crimes he witnessed be brought to justice, and may Bob explain the phonograph to the angels in heaven. P.S. if you faked your death, please reach out to us. Thank you. Sincerely, World History, Section 32
that flyball governor isn't just a technology of the 19th century. Modern day steam turbines used in large thermal and nuclear power plants have a small fly ball governor controlling the speed of those enormous machines. Its an old technology that works so well it's still used today in modern industry!
Josh Ludwick apparently it records vibrations. The vibrations themselves, voices, instruments are the sound I guess? They each make unique waves. Fascinating.
There's no machine that can actually record sound literally record sound that's not how it works its the machine that makes the sound that's how it works it's not it recording it's the machine making the sound think of like an engine idling is that considered recording a sound the same repeated sound no it's just the sound it makes when you actually sit there and think how can you actually record something it's not possible think about it before any technology before any computers before anything how can you record a sound how can you talk into a device and then hit the play button and let it keep playing exactly you can't it's not possible what would you use the only way is if you hit hit a button that causes chain reaction that causes the noise that you're trying to effect notice all those spindles and pulleys and all that s*** in that phonograph just to make that sound that's all chain reaction just to make those sounds it's not a recording it's just the machine making that sounds that's how music works that's how all sounds from everything works there's no such thing as recordings the machines is what gives the sounds now I know you're going to say oh if I record myself saying something isn't that my voice no it's not your voice that's why your voice does not sound the same to you when you listen to it but what you're doing is you're giving the machine something to say back to you it's not really your voice I don't know if this makes sense or not but technology is not what you think it is got to think outside the box got to think backwards
This is a reproducer, not a recorder. The recorder machine would be lots like this, except the cylinder would be covered with something soft like wax. Once a performance was recorded, the cylinder impression would be hardened enough to make copies on the cylinders such as were then sold. The recording process was similar in principle, but I don’t know the materials that were used so as to be able to be duplicated.
Question, all the inside components are turning except the cylinder rod ( feed gear ) which does not turn even when trying to move by hand. Any ideas. And, Thanks for you fine video it really helped me understand how it works.
There are a number of different companies at the time making cylinder records. Will all cylinder records play on the Edison Standard Phonograph or does Edison only play Edison records?
Pretty interesting, in restoring a Model C (New-York model), following strict restorations rules, no part replacements if not necessary,. I have the "'pick-nick" horn. Right now it has a mechanical problem I crank it but nothing happen. I will look closely at yours running. Tks !
Hate to break it to you but Edison's engineers were the ones who invented the phonograph. Edison was merely an investor, a business man at most. He was good at cut throating the competition but was sloppy at best with winning patents (for ex. the lightbulb and how he was forced to have the real inventor given credit for the light bulb). Lest we forget the smear campaign against Nikola Tesla at the time. C'mon folks, we're smarter than that.
You're not wrong, but the point of this video was less to give credit to Edison for inventing the phonograph, and more to explain how the machine actually works. C'mon man, you're smarter than this.
Edison thought of how to record and play back a voice and his staff built the first one that worked. He patented in in 1877. It was amazing to all. The latter practical version s of course had a lot of input from this technical staff. But the brilliance of the first idea and demonstration of recording and playing back a voice is Edison. The light bulb is a different story.
The problem is you have to have a certain reproducer for all the different colors of cylinders. Which is a pain in the ass. It not like a 78 or diamond disc were talking about
The groove is one long spiral. The spiral sides are not totally even, but cut with vibrations. The vibrations wiggle the stylus/needle, which wiggles a diaphragm, making sound in the air. The horn just captures and directs the wiggling air so its sound is louder.
This doesn't really explain how sound is played off an inanimate object. That's the "voodoo" at play. Also, how much of this did Edison invent and how much did he "just" piece together various products to create something new?
It is definitely strange when you first think about it. But it's all based on common science/physics. And, the vinyl records and record players as we know them today pretty much work on the exact same principle, where a neetle/stylus moves over grooves in a disk to play sound waves (of course the difference being that vinyl records use, well, vinyl... and not wax :)).
You can tell this guy is lost in theory bla bla. Let's start with mambo jumbo english (did you know that not everyone is a native english speaker?!), lets continue with general useless description, show the amazing rotor!! and then don't explain the core component physics of it...damn is it so hard to be practical. Answer: Yesss! that's why centuries have to pass, for one bright mind to appear, make smt useful, that even after a century people can't grasp.
Yes we realize not everyone is a native speaker but we can't speak everyone's language all at the same time and considering you are the one who's on a English speaking persons video I think you sound kind of a bit like a entitled dumb ass.
So what was his role? making it cheap to mass produce through some tweaks? branding it through his company while an employee perfected it? Buying the crude invention from another and making it marketable? Those are the usual answers.
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Holy crap, I've been trying for an hour now to find ONE VIDEO that just shows and explains it
This is so well done. Thanks guys!
Stayed for Bob. Liked the vid for Bob. Bob blink twice if you're in danger. I don't really care about the phonograph, but we all care about you Bob. Stay safe bud.
Sincerely,
AP World History, Section 32
that’s so sweet!
yessir
amen.
ngl something is clearly wrong…. praying for you bobby
RIP Bob
Still don’t understand how they originally ‘captured’ sound. must have felt like magic at the time.
Wow! Unthinkable. The inventor is ahead of his time.
indeed
Edison was a curious smart inventor who learned on his own and made this, wow
@@The_Hero_Hunter my inner history nerd is coming out. Edison wasn’t really an inventer. He was a business man that owned a firm and stamped his name on everything his firm invented. He wasn’t a good person. Tesla is the real inventor history needs to credit.
@@noyou113lol😂😂😂😂😂 it was not tesla
@@Aff_que_cringe I never said it was. 🙄
Crazy how this paved the way for us ,
We all just record on our phones like nothin
Like this thing is recording your sound what
absolutely awesome this thing
It really is crazy. It's amazing.
I wish I could thank the creators somehow, my life would really suck if I couldn't listen to, or record music. It improves my life every day.
I still don't understand this stuff but I can't stop watching. It's so cool!
A better term for the "needle" on an Edison phonograph would be stylus. Needles were used with E. Berliner's disk talking machine or Gramophone.
I was looking up Florence Nightingale, heard her voice on a wax cylinder, so now I’m looking up how wax cylinders recorded and played.
i looked up wax cylinder and saw your comment on florence nightingale and am now looking up florence nightingales voice on a cylinder
I’m here because it’s in syllabus 😭
@teammm same
haha, i came here from a rabbit hole of video of someone playing some old classics and was curious about "what is a wax Cylinder?" now I've learned the history of the phonograph, and how they work in the past hour! The internet is amazing.. although, I don't think I'll ever have any use this information, it's been a fun rabbit hole, and it never hurts to learn, right? ...Right? (Lol, I need to go to bed)
Also, as an amateur musician, this is just so amazing to me. Talk about a pioneer, the first to record sound! That is, to me, one of the most amazing inventions, up there with cameras. Such a cool thing to understand and see.
nice clean sounding cylinder.....so hard to find these days and the reproduction cylinders never seem to reach the quality of the originals. Still, glad there are companies out there making the reproductions. Mark
Amazing! I was reading a Sherlock Holmes novel and they mentioned one of these. I had never heard of them and so I had to look it up. Thank you for the upload 👍 amazing stuff!
oooh i read almost all sherlock holmes novels, in what novel the phonograph was mentioned ?
Very useful, instructive, interesting and not too long. Thanks.
How do you put the. Cylinder on.
Rosa Davis on the side with the crank, there is a silver switch, I think you pull it up and the black bar by the cylinder holder pulls out
Great mechanism - thanks for showing us!
Nice chatting with you at Johnnie's the other night
R.I.P. Bob. Gone but not forgotten. May the crimes he witnessed be brought to justice, and may Bob explain the phonograph to the angels in heaven.
P.S. if you faked your death, please reach out to us. Thank you.
Sincerely, World History, Section 32
So true
bob if you are alive come visit us too
Ayo rip my idol😞✊
What happened
wait can somebody pls explain to me what is going on?
that flyball governor isn't just a technology of the 19th century. Modern day steam turbines used in large thermal and nuclear power plants have a small fly ball governor controlling the speed of those enormous machines. Its an old technology that works so well it's still used today in modern industry!
This is my homework
same bro
@@slobonmaknob3490 watching this for fun hahah
Luckiest person on earth
Just watching this because I love this stuff
LOVE YOU BOB
RIP Bob LLQUIST
Victorian kids be like….”Buy my mix cylinder”
got to do a science project on this machine this video really helped
sorry how does it record the sounds? what's the science
Hurbii I was wondering the same thing. Maybe magic?
Josh Ludwick apparently it records vibrations. The vibrations themselves, voices, instruments are the sound I guess? They each make unique waves. Fascinating.
Yea I want to know it 🤔
There's no machine that can actually record sound literally record sound that's not how it works its the machine that makes the sound that's how it works it's not it recording it's the machine making the sound think of like an engine idling is that considered recording a sound the same repeated sound no it's just the sound it makes
when you actually sit there and think how can you actually record something it's not possible think about it before any technology before any computers before anything how can you record a sound how can you talk into a device and then hit the play button and let it keep playing exactly you can't it's not possible what would you use
the only way is if you hit hit a button that causes chain reaction that causes the noise that you're trying to effect notice all those spindles and pulleys and all that s*** in that phonograph just to make that sound that's all chain reaction just to make those sounds it's not a recording it's just the machine making that sounds that's how music works that's how all sounds from everything works there's no such thing as recordings the machines is what gives the sounds now I know you're going to say oh if I record myself saying something isn't that my voice no it's not your voice that's why your voice does not sound the same to you when you listen to it but what you're doing is you're giving the machine something to say back to you it's not really your voice I don't know if this makes sense or not but technology is not what you think it is got to think outside the box got to think backwards
This is a reproducer, not a recorder. The recorder machine would be lots like this, except the cylinder would be covered with something soft like wax. Once a performance was recorded, the cylinder impression would be hardened enough to make copies on the cylinders such as were then sold.
The recording process was similar in principle, but I don’t know the materials that were used so as to be able to be duplicated.
nicely explained!
Simple time simpler folks. What a Time that must have been.
exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
When we hit the 1900s I swear technology just took off
Thank you for the video :)
Well done. Many Thanks
Really Great video.. 👍👍
Question, all the inside components are turning except the cylinder rod ( feed gear ) which does not turn even when trying to move by hand. Any ideas. And, Thanks for you fine video it really helped me understand how it works.
There are a number of different companies at the time making cylinder records. Will all cylinder records play on the Edison Standard Phonograph or does Edison only play Edison records?
Pretty interesting, in restoring a Model C (New-York model), following strict restorations rules, no part replacements if not necessary,. I have the "'pick-nick" horn. Right now it has a mechanical problem I crank it but nothing happen. I will look closely at yours running. Tks !
Oh, a Gem? Those New York versions sure are interesting! It sounds like yours has a broken spring.
@@gunnarthefeisty I forgot this post, mine had a loose gear, it now work, but had to closely analyse it to find the culprit ;-) tks!
Thanks for sharing! :)
WOuld playing a 4 minute cylinder at 2 minute gearing ruin the tube?
There should be a level on it to adjust the speed
Very good
i want one
I assume the sapphire needle was natural sapphire or was it lab?
Hi, I have an Edison standard model A phonograph. It makes a grinding sound when on. Does anyone know how to fix that? thx (;
I have one of these handed down in the family with three boxes of cylinders. It does not work but am curious if there is anyone who works on them?
Do they still make horns?
But how does it play the sound back? I dont get it
Stevejob with thomas edison vibes XD
are you willing to sell this and do you know where someone can get one ?
We are a museum so we don't sell things but you can try private antique markets.
My question is, how the hell does wax hold a recording! Lol
I still don’t understand how the indentations or groves on the cylinder could be play back.
They vibrate air at the perfect frequency
Hate to break it to you but Edison's engineers were the ones who invented the phonograph. Edison was merely an investor, a business man at most. He was good at cut throating the competition but was sloppy at best with winning patents (for ex. the lightbulb and how he was forced to have the real inventor given credit for the light bulb). Lest we forget the smear campaign against Nikola Tesla at the time. C'mon folks, we're smarter than that.
You're not wrong, but the point of this video was less to give credit to Edison for inventing the phonograph, and more to explain how the machine actually works. C'mon man, you're smarter than this.
Edison thought of how to record and play back a voice and his staff built the first one that worked. He patented in in 1877. It was amazing to all. The latter practical version s of course had a lot of input from this technical staff. But the brilliance of the first idea and demonstration of recording and playing back a voice is Edison. The light bulb is a different story.
Какая скорость вращения цилиндра применялась для записи звука на фонографе?
i think wax went 160 rpm but i’m not too sure
HOW the hell does this make the desired sound!?
And where can I buy these devices and the cylinders?
You can buy them on eBay. Remember, there are 2 different types of cylinders - 2 minute and 4 minute.
@@osbornto Thanks
the grooves go up and down and vibrate the stylus, this makes noise i guess
thankyou college for this 5 mins of torture
i wish i could research this
This seems way more genius than an iPhone somehow
The problem is you have to have a certain reproducer for all the different colors of cylinders. Which is a pain in the ass.
It not like a 78 or diamond disc were talking about
was this audio recorded on a phonograph lol
I love my Amberola 30
same
W.O.W.
I understand that recording would make grooves on the cylinder , but how does sound come out of that ???
I assume it's the same way you get sound off a flat disc record - the stylus vibrates against the grooves as they are spun.
The groove is one long spiral. The spiral sides are not totally even, but cut with vibrations. The vibrations wiggle the stylus/needle, which wiggles a diaphragm, making sound in the air. The horn just captures and directs the wiggling air so its sound is louder.
It did not answer my question
what was your question?
This doesn't really explain how sound is played off an inanimate object. That's the "voodoo" at play.
Also, how much of this did Edison invent and how much did he "just" piece together various products to create something new?
Interesting
I’ve got loads of records. But no phonogram player.
any Tims watching?
why cant they make vibrators that quiet
Why does mine either fully stop or play really slowly?
did you wind it up?
@raymondny123 it took a minute to figure out how to wind it. It's a weird way. I'm use to fully turning a bar
what type do you have? i have an amberola 30
Ok I still don't believe a stylus touching grooves in wax can produce intricate sounds and human vocie
It is definitely strange when you first think about it. But it's all based on common science/physics. And, the vinyl records and record players as we know them today pretty much work on the exact same principle, where a neetle/stylus moves over grooves in a disk to play sound waves (of course the difference being that vinyl records use, well, vinyl... and not wax :)).
i have a cylinder phonograph "G" model G193933 I am looking to sell
How our children will view cassettes and VHS
Well, this man must be nervous or he naturally talks so fast you’ll be lucky to catch any detail. 😅
I have one it’s not working
the smacking is killing me
how loud ? db decibel
Thanks. Great. Video
And it requires no electricity!
wow not electronics there
Better than cds! Lol. =)
Sapphires on top diamond in the middle iron on the bottom but diamond is overrated.
how loud could the biggest horn ?db decibel
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I think this was alien technology
…this explains absolutely nothing 😅
Awesome content,but I despise the narrators voice and manner of speaking. And for god sake,stop smacking your teeth!
You can tell this guy is lost in theory bla bla. Let's start with mambo jumbo english (did you know that not everyone is a native english speaker?!), lets continue with general useless description, show the amazing rotor!! and then don't explain the core component physics of it...damn is it so hard to be practical. Answer: Yesss! that's why centuries have to pass, for one bright mind to appear, make smt useful, that even after a century people can't grasp.
("did you know that not everyone is a native English speaker?!"), Yes, but this is America and we speak English here, thusly the video is in English!
Yes we realize not everyone is a native speaker but we can't speak everyone's language all at the same time and considering you are the one who's on a English speaking persons video I think you sound kind of a bit like a entitled dumb ass.
I guess there are even haters out there when it comes to Edison phonographs.
All cool, but Edison didn’t invent it.
So what was his role? making it cheap to mass produce through some tweaks? branding it through his company while an employee perfected it? Buying the crude invention from another and making it marketable? Those are the usual answers.