Recording on 100-Year-Old Equipment
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- Recording music on 100-year-old wax cylinder recording equipment.
Here's recording metal with it: • Recording Metal on 100...
Here are the full takes of
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My Uncle the Philanthropist: • My Uncle the Philanthr...
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Could you imagine how mind blowing it was when people first heard themselves recorded on something like this
Bad Dragonite damn
yeah, I woulda been shook!!!
and that’s when “the voice of satan played backwards” was made.
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@@australianjock5793 DAMN THAT NIGGA SHOOK
You guys should record something really modern sounding, write 12/08/1913, bury it and wait for the conspiracies to surface
Shane Dawson would be right on it
@@rygdoomed442 Weird Flex, but OK.
I love this idea
Conspiracy *theories
they would have to write it in script bc that was the shit for a long time
Only 1900's kids would remember these
Edit, 4k+ likes? wow, cheers.
1890's kid, and i remember it
@PlaugeDoctor 87 how old r u
@@retrocollecting4147 131 years old
Oldest person ever is 122 lol
@@junkhead_92 if it's your age you should go to Guinness world records haha
"You're recording with a barometer, basically." Gives a new meaning to "recording under pressure."
HIYOOOOOO!!!
It means you are recording the air pressure of the sound waves, which move the needle, which presses harder or lighter on the wax...
Dan L :(
PRESSURE!!, pushing down on me, pressing down on you, no man asked for.
* John Deacon has joined the chat *
is this what black metal bands record with
No, they use bathrooms
They use headsets
Is this what Dawn of the Black Hearts was recorded with?
I personally use potatoes and pencils (for the needle).
Lmao
This is one of the coolest things you have ever done. I can't wait for part 2.
Well much thanks for the Patreon support!
A project like this wouldn't be possible with just it's Adsense earnings.
SteelSkin667 wait what how was this comment made a day ago this was just uploaded
PsychoLunatic Mid patreon
I think patreons get a link ealier when the video was still "not listed" or something
Dude this might be a good way to record black metal lols.
tears start at 6:34
lofi wax cylinder radio - beats to relax/study to
Parkourior LOL
im actually thinking of sampling this and making a lofi beat lol
@@kitsvne4844 DO ITTT
@@_.l4n3 Alright, i'm working on a project right now, but as soon as it's done, im going to get started on sampling this, and i'll be posting it on my channel.
@@kitsvne4844 Can you make it public?
I sincerely hope that there are people being trained to know what this old equipment is and how to use it. This is an art we should never forget, just like swordsmanship and horse riding.
love your comment!
It sounds like shit, good thing people aren't doing thing anymore
@@bigbirdmusic8199 may sound like shit, but it's history and a revolutionary object
They are called hobbyists. And hobbies will never die.
@@wideblueeyedfear7520 youre not wrong, but neither am I
I can’t imagine seeing that tape 100 years later just hearing “SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON”
yeah I bet this is how conspiracies are made " they had youtube in the early nineteen hundredds....they were talking about smashing like buttons even back then"
Why is this comment on 666 likes?
@@cosmicair3913 dont worry i'll make it 667
@@igone738 you monster
ye but it's not a tape tho
time to start that hipster black metal project!
wut?!
Good one Jare Bear
how the hell i am the only guy who likes this comment from motherfucking Jared Dines?
trve
deafheaven
6:34 The quality is terrible, there's white noise drowning out the audio, the pitch is off, and yet... It sounds nostalgic. If there was a full song just like this I think I would listen to it on repeat all day.
Djohn listen to an artist called starry cat!
obviously its being done ....wrong!
That part had me shook somehow
It sounds like modern day lo Fi, simple guitar, underlying static sound . Now it's missing a looped clip from a cartoon with static tv effect
yeah its almost like it's 100 years old or something
lofi artists are creaming themselves at this
Way too Lofi lofi uses 90s grain
This is as lofi as you can be.
*A E S T H E T I C S N I B B A S*
@@AaronKaiMCDNLD
S P A C E D L E T T E R S
丁乇下下从丫 𠘨卂从乇 ｖｅｒｒｙ ｓｐａｃｅｄ ｌｅｔｔｅｒｓ
Lol
Actually you could recorded audio to signed 1 bit. It would be more lofi.
2:06
"- sounds like we're listening to ghosts
-we are listening to ghosts"
that video got sinister right there
XD
oh grow up.
holarc
Why the salt?
902nd like :)
The band ghost aproves.
Indie/post-rock bands be like:
*heavy breathing*
That's a sweet comment
6:30 to 6:33 is so nice with the wax particles flowing through the air and the music in the background.
Varg vikernes is really jealous right now.
Great as always Rob
Vasari O xD
didn't even know he was outta prison
OH SHIT!
Jesus Christ
I was thinking about same thing :D
Maybe Varg makes one more Black Metal album after this :D
I don’t think 10 years ago Rob on his acoustic in the middle of the woods ever thought he’d be doing this. This man is incredible.
8:13 hearing someone swear through 100-year-old recording equipment it’s just hilarious.
Glen Fricker released a video today on how recording was invented and there’s an ACTUAL recording of a guy cussing „Fuck!“ as something goes wrong while he’s testing the new invented recording gear.
@@FlorianGuitar85 link? That sounds interesting
@@FlorianGuitar85 provide link
@@jd_kreeper2799 Dudes, that comment of mine is so old, I don’t even remember it 😅
Just search „First recorded fuck“, or something, you’ll find it.
Why so lazy?
@@FlorianGuitar85 Because I already tried that and it didn't work, and I regularly reply to comments I made over a year ago so I assumed a few months wasn't too much of a stretch
I love how the guy just completely refuses to joke around "it won't lather..."
Nice! Youve outdone yourself, Rob.
Next up: An entire band recording directly to one-track mono reel-to-reel tape.
Thank you! Would be cool to explore more vintage recording equipment.
A wire recorder would be cool, pre war if you can find a working one as it is the first type of magnetic recording machine.
I do have a 1/4" full track Electrosound lcweb2.loc.gov/master/mbrs/recording_preservation/manuals/Electro%20Sound%20ES-505.pdf This is a full track reel to reel that was made in the late 1970's has a range of 30-19,000cps. It is similar to an Ampex 440B.
What a cool video
SAMURAIGUITARIST YASS
samuraiguitarist you are cool as well man ! great job am a big fan
Hi!
you suck
Nihilistický HellRaiser How would you know, do you stalk him? Does he really suck? How much can he suck? What can he suck? Knowledge? Must be smarter than you to take that all in...
*Recording on 100 yr old equipment*
_Walks grandparents into room_
I wanna press like but its at 69
It’s been at 69 likes for a whole day now.
Wee_mask_the_slump_god Not anymore! ... sorry.
@@help4529 96 now
I have a 77 year old piano from before WW2 and survived the war. My grandpa that passed away brought it back to the house and we got it tuned and it works perfectly and it brings a very unique ring to it. I’m gonna make sure I pass it down to my future kids and they do the same to theirs
When its 77 years old it can't be from before WWII... 😂
That's not that old for a piano
@@keyboardwarrior0082 glad it survived the war...
you should make a video of it. would be very interesting to see
I have an old radio/vinyl phonograph hybrid from 1938. We fixed the radio and it still works but we need to send it away to get the phonograph player to work. This is what my great great grandfather used to listen to the war.
Incredible!
this guy.
This video is a prime example of why this channel is one of the best on TH-cam.
in the early days of recording to the complexity of the process, a lot of new artists auditioning were giving one shot to get their song right, if they failed they got shown the door. It makes you really appreciate the anxiety they must have felt with that in mind in addition to being surrounded by complex and finicky machines as well as producers and executives.
That is kind of still the case in modern auditions. The mentality never left that you have only one chance.
Today its the same but in different ways
There`s no dynamics, he said. AS LOUD AS POSSIBLE.
Just like in modern day mastering.
I'm fucking dead. Good god.
DYNAMICS ARE FOR PUSSIES
@@MrTmontona Enjoy your dubstep and don't fart here please
Ooo vi iz anglii
*Drop that shit* the dj said
*Lo* *Fi* level: godlike
Trouble in421 steezyasfuck would be creaming his boxers
Trouble in421 fukin love your profile pic man. fungus amongus is one of my fav albums
Lo fi level: down to hell
6:34
Some people thought tape was trve kvlt...
osten/сыр /der Käse/the cheese/le fromage/el queso
Legitimately this was absolutely genius back then. Like... who would’ve thought about wax and sound waves with the tech they had back then? Wow.... just amazing.
6:34 it kinda sounded more like a piano
Not to me
It be like that
You deaf.?
They're both string instruments so it makes sense
The ULTIMATE way to infuriate Fluff! XD
And, this whole thing is the coolest ever :O
This was the video I didn't know I needed. So interesting.
bakerXderek cheah!
DUDE YOUR EVERYWHERE
4 years later, but CHEAHH!!
Very cool. That's why banjos and banjoleles were so popular in live music and early recordings in this era, They're WAY louder than guitars and ukuleles.
there is a recording floating about of the earliest "hit single": a wax cylinder recording, made 1894, of "daisy, daisy". still a good song actually.
This song, Daisy Bell, Edison Record 1058 was sung for my company in 1894, by Edward M Favor, of E.E. Rice's 1492 Company. Mr. Favor started his recording career with my company in 1889, and was the first professional recording artist, He still made records into the 1910's. Mr. Favor had a powerful voice, and great annunciation, he would cup his hands by his ears, and talk into the horn, and place his head at the right spot, to make a great recording, he would over emphasize hissing consonants so they would be audible in playback.
Awesome work, guys! Super cool theme!
Fuck you Glen!
glen! do the hair thing!
Yeah glenn put some of these horns in your studio so vocalists can`t cup it :D
Now all the black metal guys will be wanting to record on wax
Glenn, You gonna do a fearless review of wax recording?
What really resonated with me about this video is the amount of respect and pride the cylinder recording engineer has about his craft. Dressing in a suit to not only display the equipment but set everything up and operate it and demonstrate its capabilities speaks volumes about the respect for the early days of sound engineering and the legend himself Mr. Edison who used this. I took a class about the early days of sound recording and learned about the early cylinder recording days, so to read the engineer's comments below with more detail about it was really fascinating as well. Thank you guys for putting this together! The Internet needs more of this!
Legend my ass.
He was just a hack who stole Nichola tesla's work.
Everyone knows that.
But we still talk about him to this day, regardless of anything else. So...legend.
As stated before, Tesla did not even come to America until 1883, Edison had installed Pearl Street, the First electric light power plant, and lighted New York City on September, 4th 1882. Tesla's AC power station was finished on April 16th, 1895, 13 years after Edison. Other people tried to make light bulbs, but they only would work for a few minutes and burn out. Arc lighting was an earlier form of lighting but only good for outside, it would blind you in a building. Tesla's work was stolen by the U.S. Government, who stole all his papers when he died. Including remote controlled boats, free energy receivers that gleaned energy from the earth, and laser technology. Other technology included steam turbines no bigger than a hat that would produce 100HP. He made a vibrating device that you attached to a beam in a building and it would destroy it, in not too long of a time. Tesla held 300 patents and Thomas Edison 1,093. I hold both inventors in high regard. I studied both since I was about 6.
I am truly fascinated by the knowledge you have on this subject, sir. Thank you for sharing! It's amazing what they accomplished in their time.
He seemed very... Tense. But I agree, he really has a treasure there, and the care it takes to preserve a working piece of history as he did is incredible
Forget about wow and flutter just love the surface noise.
As an old audio guy this made me grin from ear to ear. Yes a big smile on my face. What fun.
The first song gave me a a vibe of some lost happy memory finally being remembered
Rob "Hell of a Hipster" Scallon
That's, like, *really* cool.
That singer must be your twin or something! Great singer and guitarist tho. Also want that uncle song as a ringtone haha
Crysis Music it was Rob himself didn't you notice?!
Akash Patra *whispering* that's the joke :)
Of course it wasn't. Rob doesn't have a long beard.
Rob's uncle is actually a chiropractor, not a philanthropist.
twuncle
most original idea I've ever seen on TH-cam. (Bloody well edited too). Bravo.
7:17 best way to enter the studio
Can you please go through every decade of recording techniques please? It would be so amazing!
Oh is this what black metal bands record with?
So you've learnt the secret
Not all of them
Big Gay like Dark Throne??? I guess so haha
yes
I'm kind of a new subscriber, but man... Your excursions in music enthrall me so hard, I can't stop watching bro. Keep making content man, you're the best ever
I'm finally back in school after years of saying I'd go back & figured I'd go for something I want to get better at, which is Studio Recording. First day of class, we learned about this history of recording and this was literally the first of it. So seeing this come up on recommendations deffinitley caught my attention. Awesome video, can't wait to watch Part 2 along with your other videos!
there’s just something about the way the little wax shavings catch the light when they’re coming off the cylinder that’s so beautiful
i thought it was pixie dust
Was also thinking that
This is what every black metal band needs
Ha, my toughts exactly - the ultimate ABM gear
The trve sovnd prodvction.
You can use also an old nokia.
Pretty sure it's what Portal used on "Outre".
Alexandru Costache that's also 100 years old right?
The way the wood dust flurries around the scene at 6:30 just feels so amazing.
This is by far the coolest video I've ever seen ever!
Rob *says anything funny*
sound tech *takes the joke as literally as possible*
Kingsizedmidget Yeah but it's even funnier that way... at least that's why I do that in my life.
That's the best way to combat any joke. Especially unfunny ones like Rob's.
I’m the same as the sound tech 😂
George Chadwick Like Thomas Edison was
Kingsizedmidget what do you expect from a sound tech that specializes in 100 year old tech?
The guitar portion of the video sounded like a lo-fi track.
I absolutely LOVE this video! It was so cool to see how songs were recorded back in the day.
my grandparents have an edison playing machine and this makes me think of going there and picking up a random scroll and listenimg to it. so cool to see how they were recorded
This is one of the coolest video on this channel, and that is saying something.
Still sounds better than MW2 mics
Did you know we went to the moon using "sliders"? What we have on a flip phone has more technology than what we had to go to the moon and back....
@@masterodisguise2983 that's from where we had to save space. Now I don't mean digital, I mean all 4 of the men were pushed together, with all the equipment next to them. So they had to save as much storage and weight as possible.
@@masterodisguise2983 no. We never went to the moon
@@damaygo1742 oh shit you right
modern warfare 2?
Old mate doin the recording seems like a joy to be around.
Not much humor in that one
He seems like the guy from dinner for chumps.
I kind of like him. Lol
He’s concentrating very hard on keeping 100 year old equipment running to best effect
Amazing, thank U guys for sharing this. Incredible.
i keep coming back and watching this over and over again, its so interesting.
This is absolutely incredible! It shows how lucky we are to have any decent recordings from that time period and, even tho we have those recordings, it doesn't give justice to the musicality of the musicians who lived back then because they had to play very loudly to be heard in a recording. Thanks for the great video.
whazup25 jesus you didn’t have to write the whole Declaration of Independence
Nehemiah Zo it was literally 3 sentences
@@koifish528 +1 vote to the validity of this statement.
I kept feeling that the gentlemen that they had set up the wax cylinders was just going to snap.
Okay good I wasn't the only one 😂
"There's no dynamics so we just have to play loud?"
"Yes."
* *plays delicate finger style guitar* *
This is super awesome and I want to see more videos like this.
Oh. My. Gah. This is SO COOL! 🤘😄👍♥️🎶
Ryan Francis, I just read what I thought!
Naj Renchelf I read it in Jerry Lawler's voice
i totally agree!
The metal band version is gonna be epic.
Crikey Crikeys it's probably gonna sound like Burzum or some other trve Kvlt stuff
coolest thing I’ve seen on TH-cam in a long time. love the forgotten knowledge by which innovative people had to be without modern scientific principles.
oooh the white sound when they play back their recordings made me smile, it's like if I went back in time to hear some classic tunes.
This has got to be the coolest video you've done...
I was really surprised to hear how poorly the guitars sounded on the wax recording, but I suppose that's as raw as sound truly gets.
Depending on what you mean by raw, vinyl is the closest to a natural raw sound wave, the only format I know of that very accurately reproduces it, on a level most audio equipment can't reveal. But I know what you mean, they're both raw in a similar sense.
electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm
Also vinyl captures an extremely wide range of frequencies, people don't realize that frequencies you don't hear, will still affect the ones you do hear, so their presence or lack of it might be noticed by some. IRL you're possibly picking up subtle ways in which sound you're hearing, is being affected by sounds you're not hearing.
Blu-ray audio is close though and also covers a wide frequency range, 24-bit with 96khz sampling rate is up to around 48khz, or 196khz sampling rate up to 98khz. But vinyl is into the hundreds of thousands, doesn't really matter since no equipment can actually cover all that, not even electrostatic.
Even if not though, people also don't realize if headphones for example can do a range of 10hz-20khz, it means it can just barely do 20khz, where ones that can do 38khz will do 20khz much better. You'll likely hear more detail and clarity in the midrange too, it's a good measure of overall performance.
It's just because it's a quiet instrument, also as the engineer mentioned the colder the room the noiser the recording.
Yeah it reminded me why big bands and recordings used banjos instead of guitars back in the early days.
I see muse, I like
This is amazing and the guy that operates that thing is amazing too!!! This is something what I got from this... back in the days imagine the money you could make doing concerts for ppl who were fans only from hearing you on wax!!! Live performance enhanced the actual instruments and vocals so if anything artist and musicians really gained fans from hearing low quality perfection to everything having to actually be perfections!!!
craziest thing, but ive been listening to short song for a couple of months and didn't even know you made it until I watched this video and you mentioned it. small world.
Content like these deserves more views. It’s educational and it’s really fun too watch. Compared too what the those Paul’s put out.
Support great content on TH-cam!
MrPoserGalore damn I thought exactly the same thing
Logang
640.000 views and counting, don't know what you are talking about..
Not everyone's great, hence the birth of the Paul's.
Honestly, I wouldn't want ignorants watching sensible videos, putting it politely.
He went to a school in the US. I live here so hear me out. FUCK. THE. SCHOOL. SYSTEM!
bruh how you gonna leave us on a cliffhanger like that!
You were in my suggested list and I am so glad that I decided to click on your channel tonight
Rob, you are a blessing on music!
Hipsters will say this is the best media for music because it's 'warm' or something
Jack Chen it's far superior to modern conventional CD's I always carry wax songs and the player thing with me when I go running, I only listen to real music
you mean Limewire?
Bystander55 pathetic I used to make stone age war cries whilst flint knapping
VIYNL IS ACTUALLY THE BEST! I FEEL ATTACKED! 😂
Bystander55 its not music unless you steal it. Supporting the artist is old skool
What an honor to record music with this legendary old equipment.
This is probably the most amazing video I’ve seen on TH-cam
Fascinating, thanks for.sharing. It's like going back in time.
4:47 Stick with the person that watches you like that man to that wax cilinder.
Doesn't he spit on the wax cylinder though??
LOL ! Thanks for the laugh man.
Not on the cylinder record, but on the trunnion connecting the horn to the recorder. LOL
The COOLEST application of vintage to modern recording EVER!!!!!!
What a cool project! Thanks for sharing this.
What a TREASURE!!! Thank you so, so much for sharing :-)
i swear to god when they play back the melody at 6:34 i feel something really warm and strange about the guitar with the noise covering it .... it's so strange and familiar
Same man
aesthetic
Elevator music
The monologue at the end somehow turns Rob Scallon into James Cagney.
_"So we're gonna try this metal band, see ? And if your old lady don't like it she can just go and siddown, see? "_
SHOULD LISTEN TO LOFI
so it converts everything into ambient black metal?
(skiz) yes
funny
You: ambient black metal
Me, an intellectual: "aluminum soap"
fck yeah hahahahahaha
So that's why fl's recording plugin is called edison.
ive been waiting for metal on wax cylinders. this sound is going to be legandary
So that's how Black Metal bands record their albums.
Iron Hammer yeah the ones that aren’t posers
in 50 years the uncle's song will be found and people will think that it was played in 1920 hahah
Maybe it will end up on one of those conspiracy theorist videos as proof of time travel.
Epicness ! Hats off to the dude keeping the old school alive.
Rob: now we're going to try a metal band
Wax: melts
Rob: now were going to try an acid rock band
Wax: grows shrooms
Dude this is so cool !
You should do more of that (recording on old equipments) !!!!
I can't decide on my comment for this video.
1) 6:34 so much melancholy
2) I'm not even sure if I'm worthy of watching this video. Such a great idea, and so much fun!
3) I'm not sure what I'm most amazed of: all the old equipment or Jeff's playing guitar. He plays guitar! He, Jeff!!! He plays guitar!!!!!
Still can't decide.
Well you decided well, and commented all three of them
Got any cardioid horns?
For laymen out there, I’ll explain what sound really is in a bit more detail. Almost everything you hear is really fast fluctuations of air pressure. That’s what moves your eardrum in and out. If the pressure changes - one change means going through both high and low pressure - happen between about twenty and twenty thousand times per second and the changes are great enough, you can hear it if you haven’t experienced any loss yet. With losses, you normally lose the ability to hear the fastest changes. The pattern of the changes determines the timbre, or what the sound sounds like. What any recording technology does is record a pattern as similar as possible to the pattern of the changes in air pressure. In this case the pressure changes move a device that carves wax. Playback means finding a way to translate those stored patterns back into air pressure changes. That’s what a modern loudspeaker or headphone does.
What makes this early medium difficult is five factors:
1. The background noise drowns out too much sound. Actually, the same thing used to happen with tape hiss, though to a lesser extent.
2. If the sound is too soft, the carving device won’t be moved detectably by the air pressure changes, so it won’t record soft sounds.
3. If the sound is too loud, the pressure change may try to move the carving device farther than it can physically move, so it won’t record loud sounds. In any equipment, again especially including magnetic tape, if you’re loud enough to exceed the capacity of the medium to record, you get distortion. If you want to research this further, this form of distortion is called “clipping.”
4. The carving device can’t move fast enough to produce really high pitches, and those pitches (in this case also called frequencies) make the sound sound more natural and speech/singing more intelligible. This is also a problem in playback.
5. The carving device can’t move far enough to record low pitches which involve big pressure swings, just fewer of them per second. This is also a problem with playback because in order to produce bass you need to move a lot of air, which means the playback system needs more size than you see with wax.
Absolutely the coolest thing I've ever seen!!! The guy with the equipment seems to be very literal. Almost like he doesn't know when you guys are joking or not.
The dude with the equipment seems like he just... doesn't want you guys to be using it. lol
Ha yes! Was wondering who else picked up on that
Coz its one and only, broke it and goodbye
@@koujirgame5349 Yeah that's true, and he's probably just being serious and professional
And actually if you watch the metal recording video it really shows that he is enjoying himself, he is even headbanging a little when they listen to the record
As I said, I think he is taking it very seriously
This dude honestly just hates people tbh
Now THAT is what I call LoFi
Hugo u wot m8 Lower fidelity than Nixon
ayy lmao
(+Hugo u wot m8) Watch as Black Metal bands start to use 100 year old equipment to make it more “raw.”
More like "Very LoFi"
This is so cool to see! I’m learning the Yurok language, and a lot of the resources for the language are recorded on wax cylinders.
I've had my Guild for about 10-12 years now, and while hearing you play Simple Song... I heard my guitar tone as I hear it when I record. That's amazing that one guitar brand can sound so unique to another. My dreadnaught has never sounded similar to my buddies dreadnaught bodied Taylor or Dana Bourgeios. Very cool. Great video too. Very cool!