What Orange Is The New Black Got Wrong About Women’s Prison (From A Former Prisoner)
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20 years and she didn't even kill him? TWENTY YEARS?!
its still redicoulous she got 20 years for a warning shot regardless
Aphro They wanted to make a deal with her and she refused so she got the full term....I believe she has since been released, I'll look it up. While I'm looking it up, it had shit all to do with being a female or being black and everything to do with mandatory minimum sentencing.
Yes, she was released two years ago.
Gotta love how Cracked acts like the average prisoner didn't do anything wrong.
Do you think mandatory minimum sentencing has shit-all to do with race?
They are still people.
I'm starting to think this for profit prison system might be a problem...
michael cook only now?
Alex Nico it's sarcasm
Kyero I'm a ninja
***** I'm the master of bating
Kyero coooool!
I don't think this was really talking about how OITNB got things wrong, it was more so just talking about bizzare things that happened in prison.
Not happened... happen. And not bizarre, depressingly commonplace.
Mind Milk D20 bizzare and common aren't always exclusive
One thing that really annoyed me about OITNB is that the guards watched the females shower. For one they stand outside theyre not allowed to watch even in max. Second ONLY FEMALE GUARDS ARE ALLOWED TO DO SHOWERS. If a male guard sees you naked or strip searches you the female inmate can have a PREA case.
Which is the Prison Rape Elimination Act (PREA) means to law enforcement preventing sexual assault and harassment of arrestees by employees and preventing sexual assault of arrestees by other arrestees. Which has been in effect since 2003.
I can only think of 2 times in the entire series where a male guard watched an inmate showering, the first being when Soso refused to shower and the guards forced her to, and the other was in the SHU. Both are somewhat explainable circumstances, to be fair.
@Teal'c
True but a trans man cant knock you up
@@DaveMyDude
No theyre not
It doesnt matter how the inmates acting 0 tolerance in real prisons
@@cyagami90 oh well, it's a show after all. If they got all the facts right, it would be really boring.
My name is Alyssa too :3
Thank you Cracked for shining a light on things people don't want to look at or take responsibility for.
+Arnold Cabiles That will only happen until the prison system isn't fucked up. It's not enough to only make ppl aware of an injustice once or twice, you need to consistently make ppl aware of a problem, and make sure that it does not become normal.
....or care about.
+Arnold Cabiles Shameless
tonysintheattic it's important, that's exactly why those issues need to be more public.
tonysintheattic it's reasonably realistic bc it's based on memoirs of one of the producers, Piper Kermin(I'm pretty sure). The character Piper was based on her.
How is america not on the human rights abuse watchlist?
Nice b8 m8
Mason Hendricks one of these is not like the rest.
They are but who's going to police America? They are the police which means no accountability.
Because America is volatile and everyone knows it.
In the same way we let our police get away with shit, the world let's America get away with shit. We are the police. Sure if we fuck up bad enough, the other powerful countries might slap us on the wrist, but they can't hurt us anymore than we can hurt them.
I spent 11 days in a a florida jail for accidentally breaking a window and having the arresting officer say it was "criminal mischief". After my arraignment the court agreed to dismiss all charges because of how ludicrous the situation was but I never got that week and a half of my life compensated for and I lost my job. This was all so that they could make a few hundred dollars off of me in fees and manditory donations.
of poor fellow hope you have a more good future ahead and everything become all right
Yeah, a lot of people think that slavery is illegal in america, because no one ever bothers to properly read the 13th amendment. Or if they do read it, they stop abruptly after reading that "Slavery and involuntary servitude is abolished," completely ignoring the rest of the sentence that reads "excepting as a punishment for a crime of which the guilty party has been convicted."
Now that's paraphrased slightly, but it's in no way misrepresentative. If you read the 13th amendment to the U.S. constitution, you can see for yourself that slavery is actually legal in the usa. If you've been convicted of a crime in the usa, it is perfectly legal for you to be condemned to slavery/ involuntary servitude. The usa is one of the only, maybe the ONLY advanced nation in the entire world where slavery is still legal!!!
Mandatory donations?
I'm glad she was honest about how black inmates are treated
Just propaganda, that’s all.
Vegan Babe suuuuuure....
Viking Song that doesnt even make sense
@@bmoonlight4162 of course, it doesn't.
Blacks are always the good one.
Viking Song you can’t group & label an entire race of people as an individual..
Wow. 18 months for STEALING drugs? I didn't even think it was a crime to steal drugs. Who would report that someone stole their drugs?
Behaimanot Sebhat I think she means like from a pharmacy or hospital.
Ooh, right. That makes sense. Thanks.
Behaimanot Sebhat I think it meant a hospital too, but theft, even of illegal items, is still a crime it's just not usually reported because it would be self - incriminating to the owner
Riley Peeler But it showed like cocaine or method or something in small bags when the narrater said she stole drugs
What kind of scumbag would steal from a hospital
It seems like they got waaay more things right than wrong :/
Jack Fensome I agree! Alot of what they mentioned was portrayed in the show 🤔 I think the only thing unrealistic is how private it is when characters have sex. There's cameras everywhere.
And to be honest I don't see Netflix doing sex scenes in portable loos anyway, even if it is slightly more realistic.
Jack Fensome you do realise a male jail is legit a garnteed way to be raped
bejarny That is such a myth. I have known many a felon, many who spent years in prison, and they all told me that was bullshit, and in reality it is very rare.
bejarny I am going to take their word on it before anyone else. Edit, since they have been there, and those who spread that shit have not been there,.they are just repeating what they heard
Uhhh according to this prisoner and video, OITNB is pretty spot on.
@Chris The only thing I could think of is that they (OITNB characters) do get naked when they have sex, but that's about it lol.
But Sophia would have been put in a prison that matched her birth certificate
while most of the abuse of power, sexual abuse and such is appalling. I don't see anything wrong with timing people shaving. I mean it is in no way a necessity or human right to shave ones legs. And at the end of the day that is a razor and people do hurt themselves and others with them. if they didn't check on an inmate and she killed herself and was just left bleeding for an hour then what?
Rebekah Nunes
I agree with the shaving thing. It's not a necessity, it's a luxury. Also, this isn't every American prison.
Yeah, the problem with this video is it mixes in "stuff about prison life no one thinks about" with "moral outrage" arguments. Being unable to shave your legs regularly is inconvenient but not on the same level as being denied care for a yeast infection.
And it leaves out some important context. For every prisoner who has to suffer a yeast infection, how many other stories are there of prisoners who actually do pretend to be sick in order to get out of work, annoy the guards, steal stuff from the medical wards, etc. They make it sound like it's just the guards being cruel, but that isn't always the case.
I'd love to see some actual prison guards weigh in with the other side of the story.
Prison is meant to be a place where nobody wants to go because it’s meant to be the worst place
It’s kinda annoying that sanitary stuff isn’t available it’s not like there’ll make a weapon out of it
But it’s not only in woman’s prison
Men get raped by other men in prison
I think the razor thing was more a comment than a problem.
they should just give them some wax and wax strips; safe, smoother legs, lasts longer and will keep them engaged for longer.
orange is the new black - where everyone is gay
Bravonanda Moirangthem Well shit, gotta fuck someone.
except for the people who aren't...
*prison gay.
Bravonanda Moirangthem Bruh that's just jail
Everyone's gay in prison.
When I was in jail tampons and pads were readily available, and we did use them for everything. Just saying. The show does glamorize jail but it's not entirely inaccurate.
Maya S we never had tampons only pads.
We had tampons. I used them to plug a leaky sink that would not stop dripping and driving me insane. Pads were used for everything from pillows to shoe liners.
Maya S Well the lady was talking about prison
Yeah I know...but there are obvious similarities between jail and prison. Just giving my experience. And I have friends who've been in both prison and jail, besides sentence length they are very very similar and face many of the same problems.
Yeah, they would give us pads whenever we asked. We used them to block an air vent that pumped in freezing cold air day & night.
"She got 25 years for firing a warning shot at her abusive husband."
Wasn't she the one who told him to leave, he left, then she went and got her gun, and chased him down to fire a warning shot?
Yeah she shot at him and his kids, so she deserves life without parole in my opinion but they gave her a light sentence considering she could have killed children
Ok so then im guessing you are pro the death penelty for the man who shot travon martin?
Grayson M. Tf
The point was if it was a white person they'd get a significantly lower sentence.
Grayson M. She's out on house arrest now
Alexander's "warning shot" nearly hit her husband's head and his two kids. Prior to getting the gun she walked out if the house, into the garage, grabbed a gun, then returned inside the house. Alexander put his hands up but she shot anyways.
Not saying her husband was a good person but, ya know, facts n'stuff.
Don't forget that moment when they tried to play the race card
It's not a "card" if it's a statistically proven fact of the judicial system. A "Card" would be if we were to play that with no evidence to support that something was racially motivated.
But y'know...."Facts n'stuff," Hitler Chan...
It wad a WARNING shot
SomethingReallyStrange alright then entitled alpha right wing white *female* is that better
If he put his hands up and she or a third party wasn't in immediate bodily danger, that couldn't qualify as self-defence (I study law in the U.K., I'm not sure what the specific American law is).
CRACKED, you guys do *awesome realism.*
Thanks!
Cracked Thanks for pinning, I'm fanboying so much.😂
Seriously though, do more of these grittier, real stories!
Sarcasm?
Thanks
Though Orange is the new black did get it right about how private prisons function.
Devonzell Pernell Especially when they showed the 'con', where all these companies sell their goods
Devonzell Pernell right
a show isn't 100% accurate. well I never.
In the article on the screen it says she got three years. Apparently it was reduced after a plea deal when her original sentence was overturned. That's kind of important information, no?
mcc1789 --->>not when it comes to cracked's pc, women worshipping, leftist tendencies...but yeah that should have been mentioned, if at all for lady justice ;)
DeathnoteBB ---- she never said she flipped you have to read the article ass-head, all she said was she fires a "warning shot" to her husband but fails to mention she had left the premises and came back to fire that shot while the husband was there with his kid but hey, details aren't important right? She's a woman and she has emotions so let's all just forgive and forget.... dumbass :)
Otrap Inchecuenta In fairness, I did mistake who we were talking about. I thought we meant the lady talking not the woman being talked *about* in the video
DeathnoteBB --the lady talking was being a little too self-righteous at the end and didn't go into the whole context of why she was originally sentenced for that amount of time. However, once all the details surface you can clearly see it wasn't just and abusive husband and she was just defending herself, it was her firing a gun with a child present and blah, blah, blah... point is cracked leaves those important little details out in order to push an agenda, that's all I'm saying...
Otrap Inchecuenta You analysis is honestly prioritizing length over concise-ness. They explained it fine, and she *deserves* to be self-righteous for her position. You're nitpicking.
Wow these videos are highly informative and interesting, thanks Cracked!
Thank you!
Can you do a video about male prison rape, too many people make too many jokes about it i just want to shed some light on how terrible it is
tell us about your experiences in prison then
John Daniels How is that bigoted, exactly? Just curious, it seems like random word choice.
John Daniels because men are much more likely to treat women badly, and of course exploitative men will enter a job position that gives you way too much power over vulnerable female inmates. There's little to no regulation on guards anyway.
Spotlighting specific cases is such a dangerous game. jail time for a warning shot is crazy, but so is only getting 700 hours community service for beating your child to death. The system is broken, but I do appreciate these types of videos and what they try to do.
Here in Germany apropriate self defence is legal and I am very glad about that!
Jannik Heidemann
It's supposed to be that way here too, but the system is fucked.
Sam Hem Ok, didn't know that well enough. You better fix that.
Good luck! :-)
Sam Hem wait aren't you allowed to shoot anyone who steps onto your property?
Niko Srnec Well of course self defense with a gun seems inappropriate... pepper spray might blind you but a gun quickly takes your life.
if America hat strikter gun rules and not everyone could just get one, maybe you'd be allowed to do more self defense
its just a Netflix series why are they taking it seriously
How about you shut up? It's more than that!
hey, most of netflix originals are boring af, I'm here for anyone willing to criticize them
@@14h44m then you're biased and should understand if you're wanting to criticize realism you should do so for others as well.
@@lampad4549 i said what i said
@@14h44m and I disagree
This is really one of the best videos you guys have posted in a while.
Wait, it's illegal to protect your own life?......What?
She took a plea bargain. If she'd fought it in court, she almost certainly would have been able to get off. Still, though, that case probably shouldn't have even gone to trial. Just another sad instance of bloodthirsty DAs, like that case in Arizona, where the District Attorney tried to convict a 17 year old boy of "possession of child pornography" for having naked pictures of himself on his phone.
TheNodrokov Dafaq!??? can u tell me who that person is I want to look him up and dig into this...
Her name is Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville, Fla. and she actually refused the plea deal; she went to trial thinking the jury would have some sense. The plea deal would only have given her three years. She had a protective order against her ex, but he wanted to hurt her for leaving him. And another important detail is that she had never been arrested before; this was her first charge.
The problem is warning shots are not considered self defense. That's misuse of a firearm at a minimum. Shooting the guy would have had a better outcome for her. Did she know where her warning shot would go? She could have shot someone else by mistake. That's super dangerous. There are lots of stories you can look up about people getting jail time for warning shots.
You don't fire warning shots. You fire to kill and that's it.
+Dragonprincess21 Actually, she did take a plea bargain of three years time served. She originally went to trial. It got appealed on the grounds that the jury instructions were faulty. The jury is given instruction on how they should be ruling. In this case, the jury instructions were found to have shifted the burden of proof. I would fault the jury in this case, as they were given bad instructions.
Firing a firearm in Florida outside of self defense has a 20 year minimum sentence. The problem is proving intent. The prosecutor had the burden to prove she wasn't shooting out of fear, but the jury was instructed in a way they thought the defense had to prove she was fearful. Intent has ambiguity, and makes it difficult. There were also two other people in the house.
I think the 20 year min sentence laws are messed up. It leads to way over sentencing. She probably took the plea because if she to trial the prosecutor was going to charge her with 3 charges instead - upping the possible sentence to 60 years. It's a messed up way prosecutors have to threaten people. Works on people without super expensive lawyers that can eat up a prosecutor.
At one point, it kind of came off as presenting birth control as a way to prevent STDs, which is a VERY dangerous message, even if it is unintended.
Alix T actually according to the Center of Disease Control condoms actually do prevent STDs but it doesn't prevent all STIs which (sexually transmitted illnesses.) STDs and STIs are two different things but they're in some ways similar. but condoms are about 99% effective of preventing any STD not all of them but you still should use them and getting tested months.
Condoms prevent STDs/STIs in lesbian sex? And I'm sure the prison guard who's raping you will wait a second to put on a rubber, though, a slightly smarter pervert would do that anyway (as depicted in Orange is the New Black).
When I said "birth control", I was referring to the pill (which does not protect from STDs or STIs), but like Jim Stanley said, even condoms should technically be a non-issue in women's facilities. Safe sex between women should involve things like dental dams, not condoms.
I think you're missing my point - they seem to present birth control pills as a way to have safe sex, which is not. Ideas like that are how people who think that they're protected from STDs get STDs.
Alix T. It could have been PreP or some other kind of STD preventative pill. Who said it was birth control? There are pills that reduce risk of STDs.
lol what the hell is wrong with US prisons.
Fabienne The prisons here are way over populated, so a lot is wrong with our prisons.
Yeah African prisons are much better
And North Korean, Chinese
@@Aakash_Goswami1 something tells me that the united states should be compared to other developed nations... 🤔
Didn't the woman who write the books go to prison too - I'm pretty sure that's why she wrote the them in the first place, because a lot of the characters are similar to the ones in the prison she attended, as well as the stories she tells. I'm also sure that she plays a big part in how the show is made.
Obviously they're going to glamour it up a little - it's a comedy/drama TV show.
That is messed up! How backward is the American prison system. Then again it may just be the prison system in general.
No it's just the american one.
Ha you're a moron you really think other countries prisons are better. I'd take a year in an American prison over six months in countries like Mexico.
jpurp716 Are you sure? Foreign criminals tend to fight being expedited to American prisons for a reason.
Also, I think the issue is more the quality and usefulness of prisons in relation to our standard of living and grandiose self image.
We have so many prisons and a ridiculous proportion of prisoners compared to our population size. You'd think a country as great as ours would want as many productive citizens as possible, but reality says otherwise.
dee yannie foreign criminals fight to stay in their home prisons because their governments are corrupt and they can easily escape from prison if they are powerful enough. Look at El Chapo
Diego Brown That's pretty obvious, I think everyone has seen Narcos or heard of el Chapo and his great escape, at least.
My point was more geared towards those who aren't cartel bosses with a large influence and reach in their home country. There are prisons in the south where people are forced to do for profit labor for pennies a day. Places where guards regularly beat, torment, and abuse prisoners they don't like, and get away with it because no one else wants the job.
There are some dreadful prisons everywhere; including here, and I wouldn't be willing to wager that every single U.S. prison is better/safer/more humane than every prison in Mexico. Would you?
How did the show get the whole guards banging the prisoners thing wrong exactly? That happens in the show
+Alex
They forwent subject accuracy in order to pursue a narrative.
that was very eye opening thanks yall on the Cracked team👍
That was awesome and enlightening. Do more of these.
You can't have your own razor?! That damn place is run like a prison!!
Of course you can't have a razor on you. An inmate can easily make a weapon out of that. I think it is generous enough that they give you the opportunity to shave, regardless of how restricted it seems.
LJNaim I think he was being sarcastic
in medium security prison you buy razors on commissary. maybe this woman did time...but she didn't do any real time
Someone Else I was going to say the same thing. This interview is terrible. Even in max security they sell razors on the commisary. Did she spend all of her time in county and don't wanna say it? 😂 county jail you gotta sign a Razer out and can't have your own where I'm from. But this person is way off the mark with everything.
Honestly if I was in prison I wouldn't shave anything. Who am I trying to impress there? If someone want to make me their bitch they must accept me with my hairs and all.
Wait so what did the Source do?
00:35 Helping boyfriend steal drugs
5:46 Conspiracy to distribute crack
8:15 Drug possession
So did she have it, steal it, or was selling it?
Jacob D she stole it, which caused her to have it, and was likely (according to the court at least) going to sell it.
She stole it and was intent on selling it, according to the court
Stealing it means you have it, and she gave it to her boyfriend which would be distributing. All three
I'm loving these videos
I've been waiting for that video since season 1 :DD
why would they give away condoms in a women's prison
frank unodostres They can rip it in half to make a dental dam
Because of male guards and makeshift dental dams.
Because even lesbian sex could benefit from a condom.
There is such a thing as female condoms. They go up inside the vagina and they help protect people from STI's.
They can make those things from rubber gloves, too. Inmates can get those quite easily.
Or birth control. Although I didn't think of the guards at first, good point. At least the guards could bring some in. Good lord I hope I never go prison.
Wait, was that woman at the end the one in Florida who tried to use the 'stand your ground' defence a few months after the Zimmerman case but got told that didn't apply by the judge?
Misha Schmidt she's the one who went to her car in the garage, got a gun and went back in the house and nearly hit her husband and his kids.
That's not how stand your ground works
SuperMAN Prime She did not nearly hit her husband or kids. The kids were in another room. He was in her house without her permission, anywhere else she'd have him dead to rights to outright kill him. Meanwhile Zimmerman chases down a kid that police told him not to pursue, starts a fight and shoots him dead and gets nothing.
mediatrackers.org/florida/2013/07/16/no-marissa-alexanders-conviction-was-not-a-reverse-trayvon-martin-case-in-florida
interesting article. Why do so many news articles talk about this case without know any of the details and how it differs from the Trayvon Martin case?
Zimmerman did not use a 'stand your ground' defense so I don't see the comparison.
Marrisa fired a warning shot inches from her husband's head, with the bullet ricocheting into the ceiling, with her children in the same room. She claimed her husband was abusive, but as far as I'm aware that was never found to be true. Also, a warning shot was not legal at the time of her case, so she was sentenced. She refused a 3 year plea deal. Being threatened over text doesn't give you cause to fire a gun at someone. 20 years is harsh, but it's 20 years because
"The law's name comes from three main mandatory sentences: 1) producing a firearm during the commission of certain felonies mandates at least a 10-year prison sentence; 2) firing one mandates at least a 20-year prison sentence; and 3) shooting someone mandates a minimum sentence of 25 years to life regardless of whether a victim is killed or simply injured. The maximum penalty is a life sentence unless the defendant is charged with felony murder or first degree murder in which case the maximum is the death penalty"
A good lawyer would have informed her of this. With that being said, 20 years is harsh, but I still think she should have jail time. Also, verbal abuse doesn't give anyone the right to escalate it physically.
She needed Casey Anthony's attorneys then, if she didn't kill him then.
Lol Yankee Doodle song takes me back in childhood at the end of the video 😅😂
You should do one on male prisons
Notmy Realname ... or maybe because there isn't currently a popular show about men's prison?
Black Ice They probably get luxury meals, nice clean soft cells, and nice prison guards! -_-
DragonHeart 12 can I live on your planet?
I'm gonna shoplift once I get there to go to these apparently nice prisons.
Keegan Maskey it was sarcasm. I'm mocking how some of these propaganda spouters say how male prisons are. But then again, you probably knew that.
Ohio Girl well one of the worst things they could come up with was shaving legs
I suppose it doesn't bother you that the "warning shot" was in the direction of her two children?
John Doe no not at all, she is a woman so she is necessarily the victim
John Doe when did it say that? It said at her abusive husband.
Gracie Goble They, of course, happened to forget mentioning the small detail that her "warning shot" was her trying to shoot her husband and children. Not trying to say that the husband wouldn't deserve it, but she shot at children, so she deserves that long sentence.
Gracie Goble her and her husband got a divorce but she came by the house grabbed the gun and wanted to kill her husband in front of her children. Both children were by there father when she accidentally missed but she could of hurt/killed her kids. And it wasn’t a warning shot. Just look up her case
Lol Ive worked in prisons and jails for more than 6 years now, including a women's prison. The "source" in this video sounds legit in the things she describes. Some of these things did not happen in my facilities including the STD segregation or the stinginess on feminine pads. As for the video narrator, you lost any respect from me over the "type of man that becomes a prison guard" comment. 99% of prison guards do a thankless and dangerous job. They understand responsibility and workplace safety. It has been my experience that the small percentage of officers who cross the line with inmates lose all respect from their soon to be former co-workers. These are garbage people who betray their coworkers by putting themselves in a position to be blackmailed or by giving special privileges to certain inmates. These garbage officers literally make the workplace less safe for everyone and receive nothing but scorn from the other 99% of corrections officers. You'd be lucky to have friends or family that is the type of man or woman that becomes a prison guard.
mrzoot12 Seemed pretty insulting that it implied to be a male only problem as well when there are plenty of cases of lesbian guards doing the same stuff, to include helping break prisoners out. Not to mention all the abuse of female guards against male inmates at juvenile facilities.
mew mewkins It's also been proven that prisoners rape and kill prison guards. Wow, there are shitty people, oh my god, let's make a law against it. Actually, wait a minute...
Prisons are all different though I don't think any reach the "Orange is the new black" frame.
yeah...99%...sure
except the ones fucking the inmates, which is most of them
In NC most of the ppl that work in women prisons are women.
This is my beloved HUMOR mag CRACKED?LOL :D
Marissa Alexander went to her husband's home unannounced after months of separation. She started an argument and attempted to murder him in front of his children. One of whom was standing next to the husband when she shot at him and missed. She shouldn't have been there and could have left at any time.
Why does it matter
HOESHIKO That's not the whole story .
@@justanotherarmy8607 Oh yes. Let me just go to my ex husbands house unannounced and murder him infront of his children.... Hmmph. Nothing wrong with that right?
Also. can't speak for any other department. but in TDCJ the inmates male or female get razors and hygiene products weekly. This is mostly describing private prisons. (Which i think shouldn't exist)
They shouldn't exist like they don't exist anywhere else.
One thing I've learned from the podcast, "Ear Hustle", it's that all prisons are different. Some are more violent, or less restrictive, or have different educational/work programs that impact the relationships among the prisoners and guards.
thank you for covering the important issues. this is too real.
"The kind of men who become prison guards..." What is that supposed to mean?
Are you kidding? They are all scumbags who failed the police exam because of the psych evaluation and who the military wouldn't take.
As far as I can tell OITNB got it all right. Sure they may have added a bit more appeal when it comes to steamy sex but I feel that they have always put a lot of weight on how the living conditions in prison are shit. Everything mentioned in this video I feel like the show has covered, especially in the newest season.
They didn't really touch on what the show had wrong. I think they have too much freedom in the show compared to real prison. I haven't had Netflix for a while so I forgot the girl's name, but the one would be left totally alone with the van while the staff person took the woman with cancer in for her chemo treatment. That just seemed really odd.
@@kc6201 lorna! And yeah I can get where you're coming from. But I feel that scene was to show her how mentally unstable she really was. Another thing I feel like half the shit the prisoners get away with, in actual prison there would be cameras everywhere so they really couldn't do the shit they do in the show
Wow...real nice editing work there at 2:55 , I wonder what the person actually said there?
Gabe glover what
"The kind of men to become a prison guard" my dad retired as one you shut up he was one of the best ones, saved a ton of them and is the best man I know. Don't sterotype!!
Your dad may of been good but don't use him as an example of every guy on Earth
@@ZomboidMania by that same logic don’t use the bad examples to represent every person who works in the prison system.
But not all American prisons are the same.
Anubis2705
yup.
Anubis2705 , yeah and it's also a show
And the woman who went to prison created the book and the show
That's inherently a big problem.
Then again none of them are Disneyland
For 7 of the 9 years I've been clean, I've been trying to spread the message of this short, sweet, spot-on video. Once again, y'all nailed it. People are told by counselors & treatment centers & clinics that what they have to fight is addiction. That they're gonna see a bright, beautiful, new life for themselves unfold- after all the hard work of beating addiction. But, instead, after all that hard work, you're suddenly faced with all the reasons you started using to begin with. Except now you're facing them sober, for first time in X amount of years. Getting clean is a great way to see what shambles your life is in, & to be intimately re-introduced to your demons. Which obviously doesn't sound encouraging. But, ya gotta recognize your issues before you can fix them. No one starts using because they're addicted; obviously. Yet, addiction & rehab centers nation-wide, focus almost exclusively on addiction, & do nothing to address the reason people need spent enough time using to build that addiction. It makes me crazy. Dual diagnosis places are half-way there. The thing they don't realize is that every addict qualifies as dual diagnosis: people don't use drugs to the point of addiction, unless something else is going on. & it's that something that needs to be addressed. But, I doubt that's the direction our current administration is going to take on the 'opioid epidemic'. Sorry for the preaching. I watch as many Cracked videos as I can find, & I have for years. But this is the first I couldn't help but comment on. It hit a nerve, in a good way. Wonderful job, Cracked!
I loved this video honestly.
"the kind of men who become prison guards" um....what?
Lol same.but are we rlly suprised.
Why shave your legs in prison at all?
Andy's Fab Life right? I consider this to be a luxury. Honestly if you are going to tell us that « boo Hoo women have it so much worse » and one of your arguments is they cannot shave their legs, you’ve just made a dumb video.
It's just a hygiene thing. A lot of women feel cleaner with shaved legs.
@@KookiesNolly I never got a "women have it so much worse" vibe from this video. I got a "this is what prison is really like" vibe. They're talking specifically about women's prison mainly because 1) the person being interviewed is female and went to a women's correctional facility, and 2) they're comparing it (sort of) to "Orange is the New Black" which takes place in a women's correctional facility. Nowhere did they say that men's prison is so much better than women's prison, or that male prisoners are treated better, or anything like that. Actually, nowhere did they say anything about male prisoners to my recollection.
Too real. I want more.
Got the notification for OITNB season five as I was watching this lol
Yeah, the whole point of prison is to be shitty so you don't want to go back. You guys get that, right?
How do you rehabilitate a murderer?
County Jails are primarily for rehabilitation, state and federal prisons are where murderers, sex offenders, and generally very bad people get sent to die (25 yrs +)
you were in a minimum security prisson those things are like getting a slap on the wrist compared to other prissons
But the series come from the book written by a woman who went to prison. It's actually her story as Piper
Marissa Alexander did not "fire a warning shot at her abusive husband". She went to his house to confront him with a gun, and she fired a shot at him when he tried forcing her out. And "firing warning shots" is still illegal. What if that bullet ricocheted and killed someone?
So seems like they got a lot right?! Lol
She got 18 months for a drug offense?
How much did her boyfriend get.
Nordic Ducks The US is fucked.
Odds are he probably got more time, just statistically speaking
Mandatory minimum
@@alexc6453 nah if she got 18 months then he prob got 16 or so I would guess
It's still one of the best shows out there.
I appreciate the video and it's quite enlightening, but it would be nice if you could site your sources
Watching these makes me want to be a guard so I could help somehow with those women (or even men in prison also) not get harassed for not doing things for other guards. Those people are there to do time not get harassed by guards even if they did do a crime everyone can agree is horrible. No reason to be a dick to them....and yes this comment is coming from someone with the name "Bum" in the name
white knighting professionally
King Of The Bums well if you become one make sure to keep your word, being a prison guard in power can change people
King Of The Bums you're an idiot. The ENTIRE system would turn against you and attack you. These problems are solved with policies. Good luck working there if you dont dehumanize the prisoners...your colleagues will be extremely offended because it'll be seen as judgement against them
Alexa Saperstein well you gotta do what you can. They can turn against me isn't it what you believe to be right even if they see it as wrong
There's a chance you'd get sucked into doing fucked up shit too. have you heard of the stanford prison experiment?
A lot of this they actually got right like revenge searches and guard/prisioner relationships. I get why they glamorize love and sex, because if that show was any darker and they didn't give viewers in rays of sunshine it would be impossible to watch. With that being said, I hope that the system will at the very least start treating inmates like human beings.
@cracked can you make a video about rehab centers and behavioral/mental health centers? Those places are NOT as advertised
Nice video! I wounder if cracked will ever do one about male prisons as well. Whenever I think of male prisons I picture Shaw Shank Redemption.
Power imbalance?!?!
Of course there is they are guards,
Like cmon man
Yes... That's the point?
I take issue with the fact that a lot of the footage is clearly very old and therefore not an accurate representation of modern women's prisons.
ScipiooiqiɔƧ that's literally the point. it's supposed to show how hollywood movies ina urrately portray prisons
ScipiooiqiɔƧ You're not gonna get HD cameras in prison. It's not a TV set
This is a spoken article, the footage is just there to mirror the subject that is being spoken about.
It's not important.
Why aren't there more shots of Orange is the New Black? It's mentioned in the title and shown like briefly in the beginning, and then it's all 1950's stuff it seems
Still an awesome series
I’ve had visit friends and family members that went to jail and none of them mention this type of shit to me when I was visiting them..I could tell that they’re things that they don’t tell me because they don’t wanna worry or scare me...but I can tell that there was shit going on...they just don’t wanna mention it..not just to me...but to my cousin and siblings..by the time they got out...I could tell that they seen all levels of horror..but some jails have different situations: for example: in Florida, if you’re convicted and you have a fire arm..you’re gonna get a longer sentence or in some parts of California: if you get incarcerated three times...no matter what you’re charged with: it could range from you’re 15th D.U.I( crazy but true)...to even first degree murder...you’ll never get out: moral of the whole story: don’t make dumb decisions otherwise you’ll end up in jail
I worked in a Federal women's prison in California from 2005-2006 as a vocational instructor. I would say guards were not a 'certain type' meaning they took the job to have sex with the inmates, almost every guard I met was ex-military making the transition from military to civilian formwork, but staying within the government.
That being said, sex between inmates and guards does happen, and is probably the largest issue with women's prisons.
The video's bio says it 'glamorizes' women's prisons. OITNB has taken on topics such as race, rape and prison killings. That isn't glamorizing.
My teacher at my uni is also a teacher at the women's prison in my town and she said they're overpopulated by like 2,000+ inmates and instead of getting more food, they cut the women's rations. And for bed space they just put cots in the gym (so now there's no gym, too).
Why closing with Paint Your Wagon cover? Other than that, interesting article. Thank you.
"The kind of Men who become prison guards"
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
Oh and as for tampons it might not just be about hording it's more than likely been used to make a shank or other contraband material, there are rules for a reason and just because you personally have never been doesn't mean you can't use common sense to figure it out
John Smith what do you think tampons are made out of? I mean if they had plastic applicators you could probably make a shank out of that but if you distributed tampons with cardboard applicators then there's virtually no way someone could use a tampon as a weapon.
Morgan Sheehy you can make shanks out of paper so maybe it's something similar
The kind of message you should take from this video is not “prisoners are mistreated” but “don’t be a criminal”
As a veteran of the US armed forces, I find it hilarious that prisons also call it "sick call."
I don't find it surprising, though.
first off you're in prison the prison system shouldn't have to supply you with condoms or any type of prevention of STDs you're not supposed to be having sex it's not a big cage where you can hook up with whoever you want to you're being punished
And if they get sick its on them
kingMadnus thank you!
veevyo well I guess animals who can't keep their hands to themselves deserve an STD due to sheer stupidity.
lol "in prison you don't get your own razors" REALLY? YOU DONT SAY? this must be for people who have never been in jail/prison before
Panzar General ppl on writs in concord, nc get put on the "crazy" block bc there's really no other place to put them. The disableds, sicks, & writs. They only gave us razors when they felt like it. Which was hardly ever. Traveling to my "home" county was like a vacation. They/ we have "real" food. Real fattening. But real food...But I met some characters, for sure. ... some of em were funny... Like Crazy! But Funny. That's only bc we were locked up 20 hrs throughout our days tho... & they were at a distance.
This poor mental old lady like lived there bc I guess she's just that lone survivor... But really F`n mental. She said she'd always send me money when she got out. I knew she wouldnt, she's off. But I just went w/ it. That's a nicer story tho. She was always singing random church songs no matter what the time. Even if someone was having some hype breakdown. She'd still be randomly singing over the person. It was funny. P'll were always telling her to shut up. Then she's be going off on the church laides. Sometimes they didn't want to visit bc of her. Sometimes I caught her twerking on other old folks. Then just casually walk away dead serious. Like she really didn't just get done twerking on them. Good times. Not
Marissa Alexander shot at head range as her estranged husband was getting ready to leave his house with his kids. She went from the common area to her car to get her gun, came back in the house to give off her "warning shot."
She claimed to fear for her life, yet didn't leave while she was at her car getting a gun.
Quick note from Brasil: over here, in 2014, there were almost 34 thousand women in prison and the number has grown 11% a year since 2005.
58% of them were imprisoned for crimes related to drug trafficking, usually working in the most vulnerable "jobs" of the illegal drug market.
50% are between 18 and 29.
68% are black or brown.
How coincidental that someone who helped smugle crack was on Cracked :)
Ugh. Need to up our prison standards. If you can't afford to keep people locked up humanely, then don't lock them up.
quite a few american prisons are for-profit organizations and it's cheaper to only give prisoners the bare necessities. one of the reasons why prisons should all be run by the state rather than by private parties.
+Kai Sea You seem to be either advocating the death penalty for shoplifting/jay-walking, or letting rapists and murderers walk the streets. I'm not sure which is stupider.
Nope. I'm saying America locks people up too long for stupid reasons. There's a 'quota' of prisoners to be filled.
Probably the case over here too.
Shankar Sivarajan Or just do it like in Portugal: You have less than 5g of drugs? Sir please be careful. You have more than 5g? Sorry but we're gonna have to take that away and give you free rehab. You're selling drugs? We would sentence you if you were full El Chapo mode and had guns, but since you don't have any illegal guns we give you free rehab and some community service. Just by don't putting every single person with drugs in prison you would drastically reduce the amount of prisoners, this is just one example
How's Portugal's economy doing compared to the United States?
So they weren't that far off. Exactly what you should expect from a dramatization.
Prison guards have it rough as hell too. I have an uncle who used to be that, he had to check his back for every 5 steps he took
It didn’t take very long before they blamed the sex mainly on the male guards.
I always hate the idea someone go to prison for self-defense this is why I always said that the System of Justice is full of bullshit.
linkzellda it wasn’t self defense at all. She got a gun and pointed it at her husband who had his hands up and never hit her. Then she fired at him while her kids were in the room.
You could do one on mental institutions for teenagers. The truth really needs to be heard there. Because I've been to two, and one wasn't a real institution. The second one needs to be talked about. People will say: "Oh, you sent yourself there with your behavior" or "It couldn't have been that bad, they can't beat you and you get 3 meals a day". The three meals I can't argue but they could beat you and file that you attacked them and they defended themselves. I would happily talk about what I went through in there. Thankfully I was in there a little over 2 weeks because my parents fought tooth and nail to get me out after I told them what the inside was like. They don't want to talk about it now. I went two years ago and I remember it clear as day. That place, and others like it are not like the brochures and websites. Those are a public mask so they keep funding coming in.
04:40 they don't allow tampons and pads for many reasons. 1. Cook County had a series of floods from women stuffing hygiene products down the toilets and drains. 2. They are great for starting in fire, which caused Cook County prison to ration them. 3. They were being used as biological hazard weapons and women prisoners were attacking guards with used products.
Some people are so broken that they need to be treated like dangerous animals and not sentient human beings. If you don't try to stuff your used tampon down a guards throat, they'll be more likely to let you have tampons.
Get a different announcer it’s like you guys want us to dislike your videos with how condescending she sounds
this is cool and all but I need more references. not just this 1 person.
This is too saddening. Verge of tears.
In Texas, they give you a certain amount of pads/tampons per month, & if you need more (which is always the case bc the pads/tampons suck) then you either buy it off of commissary or trade with other girls.
Also you can get put on birth control in Texas. You just have to drop a “sick call” to the doctor, & get it thru medical. You get charged a one time fee ($100) for a year, & you can get whatever you need done like birth control, dental care, Pap smears, etc.
Another thing is, yes we do get razors. We receive one razor, & you get to keep in on you until they change them out for fresh ones. This is only in state/prison facilities tho. In county it’s different. In county, they only pass them out on Sundays (usually) every other week, & you have to sign them in/out, & yes you only get them for about maybe 30 mins.
So it just really depends on where you’re located. Every prison is different. Of course the show is more exaggerated/lenient in certain aspects..
w8..... u mean women's prisons areNt like OITNB??....psshaw, next thing u will be sayN is that BreakingBad isNt feasible or Agents of Shield is utterly made up in someone's imagination and portrayed in a way to merely facilitate a plot line or two... hrmmph!!!