My favorite thing about videos describing ZU and PU is when people unironically say stuff like “it’s great coverage for the sweeper horsea that every team needs to be prepared for”
Ohoho its better when you get to SU and IU (unnoficcial fan teirs below ZU) where people unironically say things like "illumise is the best special attack revenge killer" and "leichi reversal ratatta should be banned"
I believe other reasons as to Hail Castform being worse are Weather Ball not getting further boosted by weather like in Sun or Rain, and the lack of a super powerful coverage option that benefits from weather, like Sun (Solar Beam) and Rain (Thunder) have
Unironically base 70 in every stat is a lot in lc Edit: it has ok speed, decent atk/spa and good bulk for offensive mon. If it was added it would likely be high tier or potentially banned
Castform was the MVP of my single player Emerald playthrough when I was a younger kid, clutching out versus Winona and other central NPC's. Glad my baby boy is getting some spotlight in ZU as the Landorus-Therian of the format
@NasJuiced you probably don't realize how busted Castform's movepool is. It gets BoltBeam coverage, Defog to clear hazard, Scald and Hurricane, which never miss in the rain (so everything Pelipper had), Tailwind, Icy Wind and Thunder Wave for speed control, Clear Smog to reset stats,...(well, most of these are egg moves and move tutor moves in US/UM, but still)
@@sekaihunter9378 you forget how great the other's movepools are, ninetails pelipper and torkoal would still be better for most teams and if it's too much you can bump down the stat buff a bit
I guess ADV ZU’s fast pace is like Little Cup’s. Tho the level difference means Mons are able to take hits better, the defensive stats don’t reach as high as other formats, meaning offense is still mostly more powerful
Hoenn is the place where weather is respected, and feared. There’s so much symbolism around the connection between people and Pokémon, the effect they both have on the world, and the effects caused by the world itself. Castform may not look like much, that’s the point. It’s a representation of the weather itself. Something underestimated because of its every day nature despite the danger it presents. That’s why it’s hidden away in the back of the region, only given to you once you’ve started noticing that symbolism.
Gen 3 ZU has been a very fun format to dabble in. I've had solid success with a speedy substitute spam team and a strange balanced team I threw together. Have seen many cool sets, Castform in a way is almost like ZU's Celebi with how well rounded and versatile it is.
So much potential though! What is he ??? Why is he so unique compared to the other pokemon of the world ? What secrets are yet to be revealed about castform… so unique
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I’ve been saying on every castform video I see to make an evolution that changes types based on terrains as well as weather. And give it access to all moves that interact with terrain and weather (like rototiller, blizzard, rising voltage, and grassy glide)
I always see people say how they should have given Castform an ability to let him set the weather, and I feel like they are missing the point Castform wasn't just designed as a weather Pokemon, it was meant to be a weather Pokemom that with it's ability and Weather Ball could adapt to the weather changing on the fly, so it's cool that on at least one format this vision got realized The idea wasn't bad, Castform just gets betrayed by his mediocre stats, perhaps in another world where he is a baby legendary
Lovely video, would like to mention that Onix actually is the usual Sun lead you'll find in ADV ZU with an Endure + Salac Berry set aimed to either take a special hit and Sunny Day or leverage its good physical bulk alongside decent speed to get a Sunny Day off and explode. ADV ZU is a wonderful format, there are many viable options in the tier. Every teamstyle is just about viable and you can build just about anything you want and it will be viable while using Pokemon who you almost never see in competitive formats like Delibird, Castform, Aipom, some dominant NFE's like Lileep and Wailmer while also some more niche Pokemon like Geodude, Natu, Dratini, and Larvitar.
Perhaps a bit unrelated to the topic itself, but I have to say I love the old school RuneScape music used for this video lol Other than that though, I quite like Castform, even before it gained more popularity due to certain TH-camrs being big fans of it lol. I wish it got some kind of later evolution to improve its stats though as well as a sandstorm form
You should have signed up for the ADV ZU spotlight tour! It’s a lot of fun and I really enjoy ADV ZU. The ladder tournament based on ADV ZU will also be very excited. However, ADV ZU is not usage-based like you mention in your video. ZU is viability based and drew on the ADV PU VR several years ago. Castform is definitely one of the strongest Pokemon in this format. Normal-types are naturally very good in lower tiers because Normal-type resists become much more scarce.
2:19 No way. Is this the bit you were talking about in that one tweet? "You can invest in special attack and speed and act as a speedy special attacker"
Great video Jim! I really enjoyed the videos where you presented a pokemon and then commentated a match of yours with them. Any plans to bring that back?
I've always been curious how castform wpuld have performed as a flat 100 base stat 'legendary'. Doubt it would have been game changing but I have always wanted it to be better. Pretty cool learning about a format that it is very strong in
I loved tiershift format back in Gen 5 in which I enjoyed a hail/rain double weather team featuring articuno. Castform could have been an interesting choice I didn't consider at the time.
"Skiploom is a cool chlorophyll user that I've been experimenting with" If this was anyone but Jimothy, I would call IMMEDIATE cap, but I actually believe he's the type of mf to be theorycrafting in fucking gen 3 ZU 😂
What about running light screen on Voltorb? After setting up rain, set up a light screen before exploding? Unless you're at risk of being KOed before you get the screen up, that is. I don't think he learns reflect in gen 3.
Jimothy: castform is so good Me: it only beats horsea and chinchou, which are not even fully evolved... Jimiothy: but it is the highest ranked in its format Me: you be you
in speedruns, a runner is happy to accept a castform due to it coming at a higher level than the average wild Pokemon. this is useful in double battles
Castform's Forecast ability needs to be reworked. it also needs based 90 or 100 in all stats. Forecast needs to change its type and add a 2x speed boost depending on the weather (chlorophyll, swift swim, slush rush, sand rush)
Imagine if they give Castform an evolution with higher stats and its just a really buff cloud dude 😂 (and then give it forms for all the other environment status such as sandstorm, grassy terrain, psy surge, etc)
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oh I thought it would be the best mon in the Bad’n’Boosted metagame on the Other Metagames site (any mon with a base stat of 70 or lower in a stat gets that doubled, giving Castform base 140 in every stat)
Castform remains the only pokemon that can reliably change it's own type at the player's discretion (without relying on other pokemon - such as with transform or conversion). I can't help but feel the 70 base stats were GameFreak being worried about the new mechanic being unexpectedly TOO powerful - which they then stopped caring about the very next game.
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CASTFORM IS AN INTERESTING POKEMON
he should be updated to get a stat boost with weather effect, bonus points if they change depending on the type
it's not a horse
This guy was designed to showcase the all-new concept of weather synergy in the gen 3 games.
This is a certified Hail Yeah moment
@@TheJesterElectroniccastform has 3 different forms depending on the active weather effect
The fact that Castform doesn't have a sandstorm form must mean that even the devs at Game Freak were afraid of its perfect synergy with Tyranitar.
Its based on a water molecule, so it makes sense not to have a sandstorm form.
Then why does it have a sun form?
steam probably@@nettieklok5952
@@nettieklok5952 since its liquid in rain,solid in hail and gas in sun
@@kfirnachum4928I wish people would stop using this argument
My favorite sentence from this video is "although sunflora is not as immediately threatening as horsea or seaking"
Have you seen that things Special Attack? It's crazy!!
“Skiploom is a cool chrolophyll user that I’ve been experimenting with.”
Pretty sure this has been said for the first time in human history.
That's true innovation.
Actually iirc someone ran it in a VGC 2023 Sun team
I played Jim on the ZU ladder and got obliterated by sleep powder + leech + sub Skiploom. Skiploom is no joke folks
Skiploom is cool, but is it Jimothy Cool?
@@melikmourali2072Skiploom is so close to being the greatest sun team subpunch user, all it needs is access to focus punch
My favorite thing about videos describing ZU and PU is when people unironically say stuff like “it’s great coverage for the sweeper horsea that every team needs to be prepared for”
Ohoho its better when you get to SU and IU (unnoficcial fan teirs below ZU) where people unironically say things like "illumise is the best special attack revenge killer" and "leichi reversal ratatta should be banned"
A lot of the footage of this tier makes it just look like Castform bullying Little Cup pokemon lol
Aipom and Nose pass are respectable, fully evolved Pokemon.
A true menace to puppies, flowers, and baby sea creatures everywhere
Iron fellow is close to discovering the real world?! This is insane
I believe other reasons as to Hail Castform being worse are Weather Ball not getting further boosted by weather like in Sun or Rain, and the lack of a super powerful coverage option that benefits from weather, like Sun (Solar Beam) and Rain (Thunder) have
and 100% accurate blizzards don't exist yet either which if they did would overpower weather ball anyway
There aren't really any hail abusers besides castform either
It also doesn’t give a weather boost to the STAB like the other two weathers.
Aipom with it's 85 base speed is the Aerodactyl of this format LMAO
Castform should get an evolution, both so that its gimmick can be on a Pokemon with usable stats and so that base Castform can be legal in Little Cup.
Unironically base 70 in every stat is a lot in lc
Edit: it has ok speed, decent atk/spa and good bulk for offensive mon. If it was added it would likely be high tier or potentially banned
@@dylangardinerthesmollestbo7902yeah, same bst as ponyta with great coverage and damage potential
Experts have analysed that castform has a perfect blob shape, making it a menace to ZU gamers. This is insane
Castform was the MVP of my single player Emerald playthrough when I was a younger kid, clutching out versus Winona and other central NPC's. Glad my baby boy is getting some spotlight in ZU as the Landorus-Therian of the format
Castform is an interesting Pokémon.
This guy was designed to showcase the all new concept of weather synergy in the gen 3 games.
Castform has 3 different forms depending on the active weather effect.
A Sun form, Rain form and Hail form, each with a different type.
It should get a +20 buff on every stat
And let it automatically set weather based on which weather rock it holds
@@jimtsap04Bro would literally powercreep every weather setters known to man. Torkoal? Drown. Pelipper? Fried. Abomasnow? Melt.
@@sekaihunter9378i think pelipper would still be better cuz of better typing + u-turn. torkoal prolly better still cuz of it’s utility moves
@NasJuiced you probably don't realize how busted Castform's movepool is. It gets BoltBeam coverage, Defog to clear hazard, Scald and Hurricane, which never miss in the rain (so everything Pelipper had), Tailwind, Icy Wind and Thunder Wave for speed control, Clear Smog to reset stats,...(well, most of these are egg moves and move tutor moves in US/UM, but still)
@@sekaihunter9378 you forget how great the other's movepools are, ninetails pelipper and torkoal would still be better for most teams and if it's too much you can bump down the stat buff a bit
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Castform in Gen 3 ZU is INSANE, it helped me though so many battles, the tier does not have bulk to deal with their Weather Balls
I guess ADV ZU’s fast pace is like Little Cup’s. Tho the level difference means Mons are able to take hits better, the defensive stats don’t reach as high as other formats, meaning offense is still mostly more powerful
Castform is an interesting Pokémon. This is insane.
This sounds like a mix between Gen 3 OU and the weather wars of later gens. Definitely would give this a try
Hoenn is the place where weather is respected, and feared. There’s so much symbolism around the connection between people and Pokémon, the effect they both have on the world, and the effects caused by the world itself. Castform may not look like much, that’s the point. It’s a representation of the weather itself. Something underestimated because of its every day nature despite the danger it presents. That’s why it’s hidden away in the back of the region, only given to you once you’ve started noticing that symbolism.
Gen 3 ZU has been a very fun format to dabble in. I've had solid success with a speedy substitute spam team and a strange balanced team I threw together. Have seen many cool sets, Castform in a way is almost like ZU's Celebi with how well rounded and versatile it is.
The fact that Iron Fellow doesn’t fit neatly in the form of a vessel, such as a cup and or mug, is quite reassuring. Thank you.
Castform is a dominant lifeform in the ADV ZU format.
"Rain teams can *abuse* Swift Swim Pokémon like Horsea and Seaking"
This is the funniest format.
I always thought castform was an epic Pokemon. Great to see he can shine somewhere with his balls
So much potential though! What is he ??? Why is he so unique compared to the other pokemon of the world ? What secrets are yet to be revealed about castform… so unique
Just wanted to say i really appreciate your consistent use of Old school maplestory OST in your videos
I remember back in Gen 6 PU making a rain team around Castform and it performed surprisingly well! It’s given me a soft spot for the water molecule.
Castform dominating in ZU against NFEs
Nosepass is fully evolved and yet Castform stands tall.
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This is insane!
I’ve been saying on every castform video I see to make an evolution that changes types based on terrains as well as weather. And give it access to all moves that interact with terrain and weather (like rototiller, blizzard, rising voltage, and grassy glide)
I think castform would be cool is if you had a weather setting move in the first slot it would auto set that weather and change form
I always see people say how they should have given Castform an ability to let him set the weather, and I feel like they are missing the point
Castform wasn't just designed as a weather Pokemon, it was meant to be a weather Pokemom that with it's ability and Weather Ball could adapt to the weather changing on the fly, so it's cool that on at least one format this vision got realized
The idea wasn't bad, Castform just gets betrayed by his mediocre stats,
perhaps in another world where he is a baby legendary
3:45 okay Mr. Jimothy we see what you did there
New castform evolution/ability: sets the first weather condition in its movepool on switch in.
Lovely video, would like to mention that Onix actually is the usual Sun lead you'll find in ADV ZU with an Endure + Salac Berry set aimed to either take a special hit and Sunny Day or leverage its good physical bulk alongside decent speed to get a Sunny Day off and explode.
ADV ZU is a wonderful format, there are many viable options in the tier. Every teamstyle is just about viable and you can build just about anything you want and it will be viable while using Pokemon who you almost never see in competitive formats like Delibird, Castform, Aipom, some dominant NFE's like Lileep and Wailmer while also some more niche Pokemon like Geodude, Natu, Dratini, and Larvitar.
loved this video! would love to see more covered of past UU and RU formats.
Castform is my favorite phallic looking Pokémon.
Gen 3 Zu was so fun to play
Perhaps a bit unrelated to the topic itself, but I have to say I love the old school RuneScape music used for this video lol
Other than that though, I quite like Castform, even before it gained more popularity due to certain TH-camrs being big fans of it lol. I wish it got some kind of later evolution to improve its stats though as well as a sandstorm form
You should have signed up for the ADV ZU spotlight tour! It’s a lot of fun and I really enjoy ADV ZU. The ladder tournament based on ADV ZU will also be very excited. However, ADV ZU is not usage-based like you mention in your video. ZU is viability based and drew on the ADV PU VR several years ago.
Castform is definitely one of the strongest Pokemon in this format. Normal-types are naturally very good in lower tiers because Normal-type resists become much more scarce.
I adore weird pokemon tiers where shit like aipom is a genuine threat
You can choose to invest in Special Attack and Speed and use it as a Speedy special attacker.
You always know the right pokemon to talk about!
Yay Porygon! The first type changing pokemon!
2:19 No way. Is this the bit you were talking about in that one tweet?
"You can invest in special attack and speed and act as a speedy special attacker"
Once i subscribed castform came down from the heavens and scared that iron fellow away with its sun boosted weather ball, thank you
Great video Jim! I really enjoyed the videos where you presented a pokemon and then commentated a match of yours with them. Any plans to bring that back?
I've always been curious how castform wpuld have performed as a flat 100 base stat 'legendary'. Doubt it would have been game changing but I have always wanted it to be better. Pretty cool learning about a format that it is very strong in
I loved tiershift format back in Gen 5 in which I enjoyed a hail/rain double weather team featuring articuno. Castform could have been an interesting choice I didn't consider at the time.
@MandJTV would be proud to see this movie
Yooo this tier sounds sick! Gotta try
The fact that Castform out performs Horsea should tell us a lot about how the Horse Counsel was ran before the great war
Baited us with the ZU tier technicality. This is insane.
the outro song is still a banger
"Skiploom is a cool chlorophyll user that I've been experimenting with"
If this was anyone but Jimothy, I would call IMMEDIATE cap, but I actually believe he's the type of mf to be theorycrafting in fucking gen 3 ZU 😂
What about running light screen on Voltorb? After setting up rain, set up a light screen before exploding? Unless you're at risk of being KOed before you get the screen up, that is.
I don't think he learns reflect in gen 3.
I watched so much adv revival I didn't even realize this is gen 3 ZU until half way through.
I feel like we’re being teased for an Iron Fellow plush doll. This is insane
Don't let this distract you from castform-acidrain form, biding their time while everyone is distracted by the dissapearance of iron mugulous.
i Wish castform had an Evolution or someway to make use of forecast
because damn It is a really cool gimmick
Aww I forgot how much i loved my castform. Little teru teru bozu
Aipom is the Aerodactyl of ADV ZU
Castform really proving himself to be a force of nature is always nice to see
I sense an @MandJTV reaction to this in the near future.
He absolutely needs to
Now imagine if castform had actual stats
Get this to Mikey
Let's saw Iron Fellow makes it into the real world, what form would it take? A plush perhaps?
Onix is also very fun to use ZU. You can use it to revenge kill, wall Normal types and even trade with Explosion !
I have been playing around with this format I'm personally a big Cubone fan
Jimothy: castform is so good
Me: it only beats horsea and chinchou, which are not even fully evolved...
Jimiothy: but it is the highest ranked in its format
Me: you be you
Castform is doing excellent work.
Wonder why there’s no sandstorm form
That's a blunder they'll never atone for.
in speedruns, a runner is happy to accept a castform due to it coming at a higher level than the average wild Pokemon. this is useful in double battles
This is for MandJTV. Hail yeah!
Castform? This is insane, this is insane, this is insane? This is insane.
Castform's Forecast ability needs to be reworked. it also needs based 90 or 100 in all stats. Forecast needs to change its type and add a 2x speed boost depending on the weather (chlorophyll, swift swim, slush rush, sand rush)
big yellow was right…. any pokemon is cooking somewhere
Now to find where Luvdisk is cooking
@@sketchydude8431 uh…good luck with that man😭
Yo jimothycool do you do team reviews/critiques, got an OU team that I've made pretty far with, want to try and improve it
Iron fellow is going to end up being a piggy bank merch I can tell
Can we get a hail yeah for castform?
Castform's ability is basically protean at home
I’d like to hear more about ZU
I still can't believe they didn't give our boi a sand form
I saw the title and had to double check that it wasn’t April somehow
Really is a shame that slush rush and snow warning were so late to the party, hail really got the short end of the weather stick in gen 3
Castform should have been a Legendary.
The Pokémon that only me and Mandjtv Love
Imagine if they give Castform an evolution with higher stats and its just a really buff cloud dude 😂 (and then give it forms for all the other environment status such as sandstorm, grassy terrain, psy surge, etc)
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oh I thought it would be the best mon in the Bad’n’Boosted metagame on the Other Metagames site (any mon with a base stat of 70 or lower in a stat gets that doubled, giving Castform base 140 in every stat)
@Mandjtv gonna love a react to this. Castform. GOOD!
If only they could've designed Galarian Stunfisk as well as they did casform. Pokemon that change types due to field effects are so cool but so rare
Mandjtv: ALRIGHT EVERYBODY CALM DOWN ITS HAPPENING
mandjtv would like this video
This format is basically just gen 3 LC new Castform mode
Castform remains the only pokemon that can reliably change it's own type at the player's discretion (without relying on other pokemon - such as with transform or conversion).
I can't help but feel the 70 base stats were GameFreak being worried about the new mechanic being unexpectedly TOO powerful - which they then stopped caring about the very next game.
castform is so cute im sad its been gone for so long
YIPPEE!!! Castform is my favorite pokemon :)