For anyone posting links for other resources, please also email them to me: cinemawins@standard.tv Post them in the comments as well, but links get auto flagged by TH-cam, so I might end up missing some.
I highly recommend "The Case for Reparations" by Ta Nehisi Coates, it's available online and it argues about the necessity of reparation towards black people in America. And then his book "Between the world and me" is a brilliant addition to that. And then the book "Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race" by Reni Eddo-Lodge is an infuriating eye opener as well
Thank you thank you thank you for saying this. This movie is important. Having a conversation about this movie is important. I used to get upset when people believed that “racism is over” or “systematic racism is not real”, but now I see it as ignorance. People have to be willing to learn and be open to the truth. And I see you have done that. Thank you for being so open with your audience, and I am so glad I subscribed to your channel. Have a great day. -K 💜
Dude, I freaking love this channel. Personally, I love the multiple part videos because we get to hear more. Heck, I watched the last jedi video all the way through like 2 or more times because everything about it was great 😶. Keep doing you dude
Cannot recommend enough the implicit association test. It's not perfect, but it's a good barometer for implicit inculcated racism: implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html
"When we reduce people to one or a few characteristics, they hear all the time, we remove their humanity" > proceeds to focus solely on one characteristic of characters, their race
Genuinely curious on this. Where is the line though. Paying compliments to anybody of any race/culture/shape/size etc... For example. Is it okay to compliment someones flawless skin and beautiful natural undertones? Because they've put effort into keeping it like that? Or is it one of those micro-racisms if they don't share your race. I'm a white girl and another girl at work who i've spoken to only twice, has jaw-dropping perfect deep dark skin, not a blemish in sight, a beautiful milk-honey under tone to it. I want to compliment her on it, because I feel she's blessed to have it. But I'm afraid of it offending. If i met a white girl with equally perfect skin tone with no blemishes, i'd want to compliment her too. Is it removing someones humanity to compliment 1 thing they were born with? Or is it just paying a compliment, like complimenting someones haircut or new shoes?
I think the point is that people don't want to be defined by one thing, regardless if it's negative or positive. I'm Asian. I wouldn't be offended if someone commented on my "beautiful dark hair" or "pretty dark eyes," because those compliments have nothing to do with my race. They're perfectly generic, almost non-specific compliments that could be given to anyone with dark hair and eyes. That said, I'm not the most knowledgeable about racism and I'm really bad at picking out when something might be offensive. If you're uncertain on whether something would be offensive to someone, I think you could probably ask them. If you admit you're coming from a place of ignorance and apologize if you make a mistake (regardless of your intentions),
@@inmyheadathousandworlds "regardless if it's negative or positive. I'm Asian." You are guilty of doing it to yourself. IMO that's the systemetic brainwashing that "Get Out" is trying to establish.
Incredible video. As a black man hearing someone give such an honest and accurate description of so many types of racism brings me to tears. One of the best lines in the video was ‘If you’re just tired of hearing about it, imagine how tired people are of living it ‘. Such a powerful lesson that so many need to understand.
Also your acknowledgement that Chris constantly shoves himself down for the sake of everyone else is so spot on. EVERY black person has gone through that experience in one way or another whether it’s to not be labeled an “angry black man”, to keep others from feeling uncomfortable or whatever. Just one of the many things this movie (and in turn this analysis) nails about the black experience.
"The number of 'racism is over' comments on Part 1 is exactly why movies like this need to exist" Perfect. Just perfect. This is why Cinema Wins is one of the best channels on the internet, no exaggeration.
Spenser an example is like school/work uniforms. at many jobs and schools black hair and hairstyles are against the dress code. by that i mean afros, braids, dreads, etc. but that’s just a less obvious one, yknow the main one is the legal system but i don’t really want to get into that.
@@spenser9908 People Of Colour are significantly more likely to have their vehicles searched for drugs dispite the fact that drugs are found in non-POC cars at nearly identical rates. Continuing on from that, a POC is far more likely to face time in prison, and a longer sentence for drug possession than a non-POC.
Spenser I’m not here to attack or start a fight, but I would like for you to think of this the other way around. First, it’s important to establish and define what you mean when you say “single system or institution.” What kind of system or institution. Then, I want you to think “Is there any one system or institution that is provably not racist?” That doesn’t mean blatantly. Is there anything you can find where there is no background of privilege used only for the benefit of said system/institution? I’m not saying that groups can’t take advantage of the privileges they have, that’s like throwing away food because you’re “too privileged” while people are starving. What I’m saving this case for is the instances where there is privilege and it’s not used to help those who are not gifted with said privilege.
I honestly didnt think you’d be brave enough to outwardly comprehend and articulate systemic racism like this on your successful channel. As a black man, having allies like you keeps hope alive
mandala jones - as a white person who’s learned that “ally” isn’t a term we’re entitled to award ourselves (or other white people), I hope other whites realize how significant it is to be referred to as an ally by someone who’s qualified to do so.
@@spenser9908 There are many systems that are racist. Off the top of my head I remember an experiment done where resumes were sent to companies some resumes had traditionally "white names" like John or Sarah and some had "black names" like Jamal or Laquisha. Statistics show that the resumes with "white names" got more phone calls from the companies than the ones with "black names". I do agree with your point about putting us on a pedestal. It is just as dehumanizing as treating us like animals.
@@spenser9908 I'm sorry, but do you hear YOURself? Did you even read what Liz said. We, BLACK PEOPLE, are qualified to say who is and isn't an ally. White people can't speak for us, they're not black. Just like I wouldn't tell someone that they're an Asian ally because I'm not Asian. It should be significant to be told by the race you're trying to help that you're an ally. It's more rewarding than to label oneself an ally when they likely aren't.
@@spenser9908 Why are you trying to prove these people wrong? If someone says they've experienced systematic racism respect that? Like, as a black person seeing/hearing comments like yours are disheartening considering the shit i go through everyday. Have some i dunno, empathy?
I love it, it’s like when you accidentally step on someone’s foot on the street. When they say “ow” you can either apologize or blame them for standing there; but at the end of the day, whether you meant to or not, you did someone harm
1:42 when Rose is comforting Chris her arms are positioned in a choke hold position similar to the one Jeremy uses to try and incapacitate Chris later in the movie.
“And Chris plays it so calm and collected right until he realises he is in grave danger. Chris is the epitome of a guy constantly shoving himself down so as not to upset the applecart.....It’s an honest take on how black people are often forced to conduct themselves to avoid confrontation” 100% on the mark. Also, great job with your content. Makes me think of things I never have before on some of my favourite movies! Just found you recently and wish I had found your content earlier! :)
I recently read The Hate U Give and it was an incredible eye-opener on how the main character Starr has two sides, the side she presents to non-black people (she uses less slang, doesn't get angry even when it's warranted, and tries hard to not come off as black unless it benefits her image such as being good at basketball), and the side she presents to her family (not using proper grammar when she speaks, makes jokes that most black people would get, and expressing herself because she knows she wouldn't be judged for it). And while the book emphasizes that these characteristics don't make her one or other race, it's actively her own mindset that creates a boundary because she's genuinely afraid of how she's perceived as one of the only black kids in an expensive primarily white school, and the entire time she felt like she had to be this way in order to not feel out of place. It made me realize that _I_ was doing the same thing without even realizing it and that it's most likely a subconscious effort for a lot of other black people.
"When we reduce people to one or a few characteristics, they hear all the time, we remove their humanity." Dude. This is so wise. Thank you for making this video.
Spenser Except that’s not what it means. Did you even watch the video or are you just another butthurt racist complaining in the comment section? Lee goes in details in this video about it and like he says, it’s all worth a quick google.
Lee, I just wanted to say that as a Blackman, I always find it really refreshing how you tackle movies with racial themes. You try to understand, empathize and explain the plight of the characters in the movie and how they relate to their real-world counterparts and you, and this is my favorite part, you don't make it about you. While you're the only voice who can physically speak in these videos you don't pretend as if racism is a thing of the past or get defensive like so many other people when faced with the reality of our world and how we contribute to it and honestly it makes me love your videos even more.
This is CinemaWins' magnum opus, no matter how many views the Marvel movies get, this video is a testament to Lee's dedication to film, and optimistic decency. This entire part two section of this film review blows any other video on this site out of the water because of how well researched, how consciously intentional, and how genuinely virtuous it is. You don't see other channels doing this; there's no incentive to make this second part outside of a real drive to see our nation's ugliest stain removed. I continue to keep coming back to this video because of how it makes me think, and I hope to create messages like this for the world in my own work. Bravo.
I love when your videos go into parts. One part positive uplifting CinemaSins parody and the second is your deep analysis of it and why you personally enjoy the film. The only sad part is I have to wait another week. But it is totally worth.
What I love the most about this channel is the analysis he makes at the end of the wins counter, letting us know what he likes, why he likes it and what the movie made him feel/think. So much better than a simple "this is right/this is wrong" video. (Sorry for my English, not my first language). (Edit for spelling).
The only thing that cinemasins and cinemawins have in common are the names. The first one is based in parody/humour. And cinemawins are based in analysis.
Even though, the "my dad killed your dad" scenario was oversimplified, that doesn't take away from its accuracy. I loved the analogy and it holds true. Thank you for actually speaking out about this topic unapologetically.
Oversimplifying things might actually be like a first step to helping people understand what you're trying to say so I actually think it's a good tactic. Make it simple at first but get into it more later. Especially for people who have a hard time being receptive of new ideas or ideas that they might think are attacking them.
I remember first stumbling on this channel like... i love this dudes fair breakdown and optimistic views in this otherwise binary culture of critics reviewing things. Anytime race comes up ur MORE THAN FAIR... aware of ur own possible bias. Ur takes ask urself to ask urself to think about it from "our" (blacks) POV. I love it. Love the channel... keep it up. Great breakdown of a much needed movie and ur breakdown hopefully helped non-black folks to see what i immediately saw first viewing. Thank u.
@@CinemaWins Total misread dude! People act as if its like in the 60s with racism. The racism you should focus on isn't the ever small systemic parts, but rather the racism on a personal level.
@@brandonkey181 coming from where I live it isn't just 'black people' it's all kinds of folks who in some ways are still deeply discriminated. It's a tough issue to solve, but I think acknowledging its there is a good first step.
there are two things in this movie that i loved the most: the fact that every single actor was astonishing and that if you watch this movie a second time everything changes
The actress that plays Rose is out of this world. The instant transformation from Rose to RoRo is insane, it really got me when I watched the movie for the first time.
Me as a black person hearing this from a white person and you taking the time to make this just to educate many others makes me feel like their is a chance for racism to get better. Thank you :)
Despite the disclaimer you gave, almost everything you said in this video in regards to racism and micro aggressions was extremely accurate. I wish more people would take the time to understand and empathize on that level, the world would certainly be a better place. Thank you for being an outstanding human being.
As someone who desperately wants to see the world change: thank you for this video. Thank you for your courage in sharing it. Thank you for your honesty in acknowledging your own limitations. Thank you for sharing these links to help me and people like me learn more. Thank you for making the effort to reach that one person who is on the fence. Thank you for using your platform to try and make a difference.
it also shows that a lot of the problems are economic ones which have roots in past racism but are not only present for oppresed but also not so priviliged privileged. also its one of the reasons US could benefit from a little bit of socialism to balance the scales
bruncla2303 agree and disagree. Why do you think Asians in America never get messed with? They are economically sound and have their own culture. Unfortunately due to the past of this country it seems african Americans aren’t kept to the same standard because they may be economically behind, as well as all minorities because of the system, politics, communities, etc. at the top where people don’t respect others the main root source is money. I respect people on character and how people handle themselves and how they think, and usually money follows that. Hopefully that makes sense because “a bit of socialism” would just further push down minorities and bring out racism, I mean look at Russia
@bruncla2303 How do we go about adding “just a bit” of socialism? It doesn’t work that way. It’s an entirely separate system that would require MASSIVE changes to how the US currently operates. Socialism is not just something you can use to “balance things out”. It’s not a magical band-aid that will compensate centuries of injustice. That is an incredibly false and somewhat dangerous way of viewing socialism. Read up on the effects it would have on free enterprise, how it would destroy people’s incentive for innovation if all their work would just become “socialized” after the fact. Socialism is an UNjust system masquerading as a just one, meaning any efforts made within the socialism framework to “balance things out”, as you phrased it, would only create a further divide. The very thing you’d try to fix you’d only make worse, because the tool you’ve chosen to fix it with is the wrong tool. It’s like trying to fix a leaky sink with a hammer instead of a wrench. You’d only break the sink further and turn the leak into a flood.
Asians were discriminated against in America, from as early as Chinese immigrants coming to work on the railroads to literal internment camps during WW2. Same with many other groups such as the Irish who were discriminated against and stereotyped a ton. The reason African Americans have had far more longstanding issues with class and race relations is due to many things, such as freed slaves being denied opportunities which led to the formation of poorer communities, urbanization and the mass migration etc. there’s about a million factors separating blacks from other American ethnic groups but it’s extremely, extremely ignorant to say that Asians never had any issues and that a “little bit” of socialism could suddenly fix long-standing prejudice.
i liked that not only are you critical of the system you benefit from, you're critical of yourself. the "bingo" comment in the last video rubbed me the wrong way, even though i knew it was unintentional. realizing that we don't always have to be right is so important
@callmecatalyst get out is amazing. He broke it down so well. But we NEED the us break down. I would love to hear his perspective on it. Such an amazing movie easily in my top 3 movies of all-time. Absolutely loved us. Jordan peele is a genius
I loved this exploration thank you so much. It was so beautifully said and truly the effort to be a decent person is what matters most. Some people think they need to bippity boppity boo racism away and all we’re asking for is effort. Try not to use that word. Try not to use micro aggressions. Try to see where we’re coming from when you’re held accountable. Try. Also for the sake of learning, use capital B if you’re referring to our culture as opposed to the color. Like Asian or Hispanic or Irish. Black is for people, black is for boots.
Thank you, that makes total sense but I'd never considered it. I apologize, and here's to learning! Also, I'd like to point out how hyper-aware I am that I don't use bippity boppity boo nearly enough in conversation. Another thing to easily fix.
@@The_Swordfish The most seditious thing about true ignorance is the inability to know how much you don't know. You're unable to recognize what's "missing" because you haven't experienced it before to form that reference point; not only do you not know or understand, you're not aware you could or should know or understand. So one of the most important things we can do is educate ourselves and others, thoroughly and respectfully, through all aspects of our lives. And just make an effort to be better than we were.
This is why I value CinemaWins over cinemasins. Lee will actually go more in depth on a film, what makes it work, and what makes it a piece of art. Be it a filmmaking style you may not have noticed or subtext you didn't understand. It's like an film essay but with plenty of goofy jokes and silly wins. Jeremy of cinemasins just berates a movie, claiming it's all for the funnies. And his fans claim it's real movie analysis. That what he's saying is a sin is a real problem with a movie, when it's just some nitpicking BS. Lee, I don't know if you'll see this comment. But just know that I love your videos sir. They've been funny and informative. I always await new CinemaWins content, even if I didn't personally enjoy the film being winned. I want to see a new perspective on movies, as their one of my passions. So keep being awesome, and making people smile.
I, too, am a fan of both. I actually like both ways I don’t prefer one or another. I like to see how bad a movie is, but I would of also see how good a movie is. The videos I like the most is when cinemasins and cinemawins agree on something like in kingsman the golden circle when they both agreed that the president scene was bad
Yeah it's fun to sit back and watch both, especially when they release a long video of the same movie. It's a real shame that people take such a harsh stances on a channel and hate on someone they don't even know.
It still baffles me that people need to be directed to academic papers on white privelege to convince them it exists. As a white immigrant who was bullied in school for my accent, I became aware of the concept before I ever heard the term "white privelege" or even understood the nuances. I was just a shy 11 year old with a weird accent and my only friend was a brown girl at school and we were both bullied for being immigrants. I became obsessed with losing my accent because my juvenile logic was "if I sound the same as everyone else I'll just blend in". It wasn't until I found out that my friend wasn't even an immigrant, but a canadian-born child of Pakistani immigrants that it really hit me in the gut - here was a girl who technically was "more Canadian than me" in every way, who is receiving the same type of insults and bullying as me, simply because of her skin colour and "non-white" name. Meanwhile, I'd be at home reciting dialogue back at the TV and working on losing the accent. Eventually I did lose the accent, we moved to a different city and I started at a new school where I didn't get bullied because no one assumed that me, a white girl with a white girl name, was an immigrant. I effectively used the concept of white privelege to serve as an advantage. It was a pretty childish, simple minded thought - I'm being bullied about something that I can change about myself so I'm gonna go ahead and change it - but it uncovered a much deeper societal issue that I up until that point didn't even know existed. It made it quite obvious to me, even as a child, that what's happening isn't that some people are inherently ~ priveleged ~ and need to be knocked down, but that some people are inherently disenfranchised and need to be lifted up.
Just ran into your channel on accident and found this video and man, this was such a well-articulated breakdown on casual racism I didn't expect to find here. As a young black man trying to make my way in this tough world, knowing that people like you are around who truly understand our plight makes everything a little better. Good stuff man.
Spenser Saying he is putting black people on pedestals? Like what? When did he do that? He makes various points as to how and why racism is still potent, yet all you take from it is that black people play the victim? None of your claims make any sense whatsoever.
As a black man in Canada, who's dad is trying to showcase the systemic racism here in the community we live in, Thank you CinemaWins for saying everything you said in this video. It means alot
Hey fellow Canuck. I think it's important too, to spread the word that while Canada may seem "better" than it's American cousins, we are no less guilty of these self-same microaggressions and systemic racism. I was fortunate to be raised in a house where everyone, regardless of race or religion, was to be treated equally and fairly, but in that, I also recognise my privilege, as a white woman, to have that experience. I sincerely hope that we can all work together to open the eyes of Canadians so we can truly be a step closer to being as "equal" as we pretend we are. I plan to share this video on my facebook, because I feel it articulates things in a way that maybe, MAYBE I can get the point across to a few folks. Much love from Ontario, and I wish you and your Dad success in educating and opening the eyes of your community.
Don't get me started on indigenous people and systemic racism towards them because IT IS INSANE!---I live in Winnipeg and it's really out of control here.
@@bambii_thinks3147 yeah, theres systemic racism against people that get free housing, money, dont have to pay tax, have a higher chance of getting a job or into university, etc.
@@RyanGamesYT Clearly you are either un-educated or miseducated on the matter because you sound like fox news. I'm not sure if you are a troll or just miseducated but I encourage you to read peer-reviewed articles from experts about systemic racism indigenous people face in Canada because there are various forms, definitely not enough for me to outline on a comment section. Check out the Truth and reconciliation commission as well. Mind you I am literally a black immigrant in this country and I recognize that I experience WAY MORE PRIVILEDGE than indigenous people simply because they have way more negative labels attached to them. It's never that simple as you outlined it and I believe you don't have to belong to a marginalized group to be empathetic and do what you can to propel them forward whether it's sticking up for them in public when you hear comments being made, attending talks, volunteering what time you have or donating or simply LEARNING and LISTENING....Went off a bit on a tangent there but I'm not going to bother to reply when you can use google to educate yourself or atleast see that there is truth in what i am saying when you probably know there is. Perhaps you have had a hard life and your socio-economic status is difficult and you feel the need to subtly point out that things aren't easy for you whoever you are but you know that, that is not the same thing as having to experience life in someone else's skin with the attached labels, stereotypes that come with simply existing.
I find myself coming back to this video again because hearing your commentary on these topics makes me feel soo much better as a black girl. It just feels good to have a creator you genuinely enjoy be a good person too and really acknowledge you. Thank you
Hey man, long time fan, and a black one at that. Trust me when I say, for those of us who are actually educated about how racism truly operates, especially as far as how laws and systems promote it to the benefit of some, we appreciate the effort and care you're taking to express these ideas, and, maybe sadly, does give me hope that ears that would dismiss your words coming from my mouth won't do that here. You hit a lot of nails on their heads my brother, and considering I'd be hard-pressed to say that most people of similar skintone to myself know exactly what you're pointing at, so trust me when I say that, as far as I'm concerned, this isn't pointless or race-baitey or anything of the sort. Thank you for actually being woke. At least as far as race relations go, you've earned the honorific.
Agreed man, he explains the feeling of growing up as a black man in a white dominated environment very well for someone who has never experienced that level of racism, an incredibly educated guy.
One of my favourite parts about this film is how the protag always acts like a real person conceivably would in that situation, and once shit hits the fan his first priority is to get the hell out of dodge, unlike lots of lesser horror movies. Before watching this, I still wasn't really convinced that I liked horror movies, since the ones I'd seen were all just cheap jumpscares and contrived bullshit. But I've been convinced otherwise.
Jesus christ what a video. Gave my goosebumps by the end. So brilliantly articulated. Thank you Lee. You’re my inspiration for creating my youtube channel and this video was a direct reminder about how I should be living my life day to day and how much of an impact some strangers video could have on another. You make me wanna be better and create better. Thank you.
I know how serious this video is and everything, but I know you and Cinemawins seperately, so it feels a little like the.. "Adam Sandler? What're you doing here? But it makes total sense. I love both of you, making some actually deep and insightful commentary on media thats truly lacking nowadays. Thank you for your work, and I'm proud to have followed both of your channels for so long. Anywho, rambling aside, love you man! And to anyone who finds my comment, thank you, I don't know you, I don't think i'll ever know you, but i love you all the same. Take care!
Man. Great to see this. Obviously don't know you personally, but it is hard to believe you aren't a decent person with the care and research you put into this video. Hope the fam is well and be blessed!
every single word in this video makes me sad: I'm sad that any of it needs to be said I'm sad that it feels like I'm not the one who should be hearing it, even though some of it definitely is for me as well. I'm sad that those who need to hear the rest of it will find some reason to switch of and ignore the whole thing, including all the back-peddling he did to make it go down easier for them Effectively I'm sad that it won't resonate, because those who "already now" will miss the parts that are for them and those who deny will continue to do so.
CinemaWins I'm asian and my brother was bullied when he was little for being so as well. I was pretty sings sure I wasn't racist, but this video made me scared to realize the smallest part of me was like "I'm asian, that means I can't be racist" but that's absolutely untrue and I've known my whole life it is, but I still can't shake that feeling.
I as a black male honestly feel like I haven’t did enough to stand up for my race and for others like me this video is a start to time learning how to better be proud of my own body and knowing how to respect each human for what they are thank you cinema wins
I just sat here for maybe five minutes, knowing I wanted to reply to this, but not figuring out the right words to type. For me, it’s hard to use what I’ve learned and experienced about respecting people despite race because of the changes made. I used to be what’s now called “white knight” as a teenager. My mom did a good job of teaching me that people are always going to be both similar and different. I was just pretentious when I was younger and tried forcing people to recognize their jokes and words; I also never understood catharsis when it came to jokes. Then boot camp happened. That was a good slap to the face for me. I experienced various forms of prejudice and how different people react to it. It was terrifying sometimes, but also humble at other times. Some of my best experiences were knowing that my friends and shipmates could call each other out without being offensive or offended; we could make jokes with one another and know that we were just being sarcastic and not mean. We always encouraged each other and had each others backs. Nowadays, this feels harder to do. Not with actions, but with words. I’m ready for the “challenge”, but I know I’m not going to appear “successful” for some people. For example, I was at work (cashier) and didn’t realize I must have sounded like an awkward moron to this one couple until maybe ten minutes later. This couple was black and I got too comfortable. They mentioned something that my old friends would have said and I responded as if they were these old fiends of mine. It was my mistake though, and it wasn’t a bad moment or anything, but I can’t help but think what were they thinking. For me, race has always been a normal, but beautiful thing. I love embracing it. Anyway, please don’t feel you haven’t stood up for your race. Your existence proves negativity will never win in the end. I hope you will be proud of your body and mind soon. ^_^ Sorry for the ramble, this topic gets to me sometimes.
I honestly never could understand "standing up to my race". I have never stood up to mine. It never stood up to me. I probably had slaves in my bloodline, despite being white. There are a LOT of bad stereotypes about my countrymen and "general ethnic group" so to speak. And I just can;t understand that. I want to be proud of who I AM not who my race is, my country is.
@@olotocolo in societies there are different social groups. Yes we are all individuals but we are also a part of these social groups. These groups bring us together but they also divide us. Like if some football players were making fun of band members one of the members of the band might stand up for himself in the other people in his social group. Race is an ascribed status which means you can't choose it. Which puts us all in a group we did not choose to be in. So you can take pride in it or not it depends on you and how you look at it. For people like me who take pride in their race will defend it if people try to make it look bad or say things that are not true. Like a bandsman would do to a football player.
As a black man disguised as a Charizard for a magnitude of reasons. I think you so very much for your understanding, clairvoyance and time used in trying to have people see things from our perspective. Thank YOU! Much respect and love!
7:43 "If it offends or makes the receiver uncomfortable, it doesn't matter what the intention was, it matters what the outcome is." This is what a lot of people just don't get. This applies to racism, sexism, classism, and even political views. Choose your words carefully and be understanding when someone doesn't react the way you want them to. Listen. Be open-minded. Be empathetic. The world would be a lot better if everyone did exactly that.
Agreed. And it applies in the reverse too. If you are offended by something, it's okay or good to let them know, but chances are it wasn't their intent, so be kind in explaining, and they'll be more likely to change.
@@bradleypalmer9953 Exactly. A lot of the times, people aren't thinking about how they're offending others, so those offended also should choose their words carefully so their words are actually heard.
@@bradleypalmer9953 I was about to add this. We're all people trying to get along and we're all constantly learning as we go. It's completely fine to be uneducated about topics and not knowing how a phrase or word can be offensive to people, and it's equally important for the receiver to not make internal attributions about the sender, and just talk about it in a calm, empathetic manner. When we communicate we solve so much because we exchange a new truth, learn and improve.
While agree with everything Lee said, and I think you should always avoid offending people, if possible, I feel that it must be stressed that people don't have a right to not be offended. If someone finds your support for gay marriage offending, you shouldn't stop supporting it, and the topic shouldn't be taboo. A healthy rational discussion goes a long way in resolving conflicts and seeing someone else's point of view. This goes both ways of the political spectrum.
I've never commented on a youtube video before. Mainly because its one of the worst places to ever exist. But i have to say something here: You are, and I am not saying this lightly, the best content creator I have ever had the pleasure of watching. You tread controversy in such a way that I cant imagine how people can even be upset with you. You dont avoid the issue in any way but yet you clearly tell us where your limitations are on the topic and you acknowledge there are better resources out there for understanding what you are saying. Thank you for being amazing and Im proud to have been one of your followers for the last 4 years. Keep it up.
I just wanna say I'm writing this with a lump in my throat. That last analysis was spot on. I'd consider u a white ally bc u use ur platform to help us. Adding responsible resources was a big plus. Gives me some added reading. Hearing u speak so passionately and clearly about perspective when it comes to racism is extremely appreciated. I didn't find u bc of this video but I'm glad to be following someone who can at least EMPATHIZE and use critical thinking and straight up facts to try to describe our struggle. It gets hard sometimes bc when a black woman like myself says the exact same thing I'm written off as angry, resentful and "too woke". And no, not everything is racist but picture this: black people live with the constant anxiety that maybe they're coming off as too black, maybe we didn't get the job, loan, house, raise or recognition bc we're black. Racism today is just as insidious as it was in the past if not more so bc whites then admitted it. Racist whites now keep it to themselves and in their secret clubs, as shown in the film. So blacks see racism everywhere not because if how it looks, but by how it feels. Thank you. I think ur woke enough.
When I heard the "F*ck That" it really touched me. I avoid certain conflicts and basically play devil's advocate on all things fucked up that I deal with as a black man in attempt to humanize both the victim and the preparator. But to hear that from you it's just so empowering. Almost akin to your first "everything will be alright" pat on the back from the person who usually needs you to save them. It feels like the good people who will always work harder to be good, ironically, are more than just the mantra they tell themselves,in front of other to make themselves feel better. Thank you. So much
As A mixed raced man, thank you for to effort, research and passion you put into this. I feel vindicated and seen just by how you have put this together. I sincerely thank you 🙏🏾 😊👍🏾
Dear CinemaWins, Like a few other viewers, I don't hail from USA. Therefore, like you, I only have the context of what I've seen, heard and read. I personally hail from India, which is known for being a melting pot of culture, language and tradition. Race is one of the major intersections in American society (by intersection, I mean a socio-cultural system that gives one particular group advantage or position over another by virtue of birth or characteristic). In India, a similar importance is given to caste. So while I'm basically a beta version of the Indian whiteman, I can understand the perspective of a community that always has to be guarded all the time, because they always get blamed, made into perpetrators, demeaned or dehumanised. Some works of art that helped me further understand the nuisances of the racial system in America are: Todrick Hall's (brilliant) album and film, Forbidden. The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas The Colour Purple by Alice Walker Many books by Alexander McCall Smith that dive into African culture and how, even within a particular race, caste, creed etc people have learnt to divide and rule. I hope this helps.
I didn't realize how deeply systemic the issue of racism is in America until I moved here from Malaysia. Malaysia is also a melting pot of cultures, races, and traditions as well. In Malaysia we have veiled racism but it's not as crazy bad as it is here in the United States. It was quite a culture shock when I first migrated here.
You might also like "13th" and "when they see us" (fair warning "when they see us" is extremely hard to watch especially when you know it's a true story (both can be found on Netflix)
I am Indian too, and I feel that castism in India (at least in middle class and upwards) is a good example of how it should be eradicated (I'm not talking about reservation). No one, now, asks which caste someone belong to. It has been turned into a laughing matter and otherwise completely forgotten. Having said that, I realize that it still exists in some parts of society and among a significant part of the population and that it is different from being racist which, funnily enough does exist in our society. However, the point I am trying to make is, that things like racism and castism can truly be said gone when news don't say that a black/shudra succeeded in something; when we can make fun of it for its stupidity without any reservations. But, maybe I'm wrong.
This. Conclusion. Oh wow. This was the most truthful, necessary, and insightful 14 minutes I've ever experienced. You're a genius with words and you honestly had me so emotional to the point of tears at times. We are flawed, all of us, and we need to take your words to heart. Listening to you say how we all sometimes say or do things that are racist without realising genuinely hit me in the gut. Thank you for this video. I will 100% rewatch this when I feel down.
Just watching this in November 2020 and I was nodding my head like I was at church, even audibly saying “Amen” out loud. I love opportunities to learn. So thank you.
"As humans, we have a tendency to contextualize things self centeredly" that hit home for me all too well. even more so when you gave the example of the girl who can't keep on weight. Never liked the idea of someone looking at me and thinking i'm the epitome of proper weight when i'm almost underweight due to high metabolism and have gotten a lot of crap because of it
Holy crap man, could we please get a transcript for this video? I'd love to source and quote what you've said here, it's helped me verbalise the way I feel about things in a way I usually struggle a whole lot with. Thank you for the amazing content
Sorry to step on the work you've done here. My scripts are on patreon, but I'm opening this one up to the public for a week so anyone can have it. I reformatted it so it's easier to read than my usual excel sheet. www.patreon.com/posts/ega-get-out-part-31243177
Just wanted to say I’m a black man and I was brought to tears watching this video 🤞🏾 I just wanted to say that I appreciated your “Attention To Detail” u really hit home with ALL your points And I just wanted to say THANK YOU 💙 (MrCinemaWins Guy) Lbvs
@@pyromaniac2104 it's a good film but most people agree it's the weakest of the 3, however if someone said I had to sit and watch it for the rest of my life I wouldnt complain.
@@SertQuos "it's a good film but most people agree it's the weakest of the 3," That's like being the worst of the Beatles. At the end of the day, you are still a Beatle, and that is more than most others can claim.
I’ve been listening to your work for the last 8 months now and I can’t come up with enough superlatives to express how well spoken, written and educated you are. Are your videos leave me with a smile on my face and this one really made me think. I think that’s all I can ask for when it comes to media in the style. Keep up the amazing work
There are like a million amazing things that I’m getting just out of viewing your videos and I’m SO grateful that both this movie and your review and analysis of the deeper meanings exist!
Ok... wow... this was a "risky" video, for lack of a better term that could come to me right now and I just want to say, good job, like genuinely GOOD FRECKING JOB. I, a white, conservative, male college student loved this video. I hope no one looked at this videos positivity and just thought "pfft... liberals", cause that would be a disservice to the lovely man that makes these videos. (I've loved you for almost 2 years now I think). I loved this movie and loved what you said because one point out by @CinemaWins here actually made me stop and realize that I have done the "marginalization" part to my roomate, being a gay man, and me in the past saying he was my favorite gay guy... I now see that was NOT the way to say those things, hes not a gay man, hes a man that happens to be gay. It wasnt that I looked down on him for that, like AT ALL, but the way words are said have diffrent meaning. The whole point for this large paragraph was for that I hope this videos comments doesn't become political. I'm sure it will but that is not the point of this part 2. The point of this was for CinemaWins to speak his mind about a movie, and I would be upset to see if people dont want him doing that... It is his channel, it his entertainment, it is his art (yes I mean art, the way he talks about movies has creativity behind every word and punctuation). This is his playground, and even though there are sometimes points where u loose me (rarely I'll add), I love you and your work. I would want nothing more to see you make what YOU want, not what the audience wants you to do. Keep up the work, I'll be here till the end, every movie from Megamind to GET OUT :) Your loyal (not running ad block) viewer, Kole P.S. Lee, keep doing what you want, but above all, make yourself happy.
Ok, let’s take a moment to appreciate that even though it was a given that there would be disagreement in the comments, the comment section is still enabled. We don’t change people’s minds by censoring them, we change them by showing them the truth and let them do the rest. Second, that ending was brilliant. Keep this kind of stuff up please! Also please do EGA Speed Racer.
I don’t know if you’ll read this or not, but watching cinemasins for years then finding this gem, truly shows your understanding of your person in this world, you did a great job approaching this and it was done in the absolute best way possible, it’s hard to relate to what’s truly going on in this movie cause much like you, I am also a white male, but you make it so easy to grasp the underlying tones in this movie, that’s so hard to miss the first watch of this movie. As amazing of a job that Jordan Peele did directing this, you did equally amazing dissecting it, good job bro, keep shining. Ps. (I will do nothing but watch all your ads and like all your videos)
"If the system is already in place, who am I try to change it? Fuck that" damn man that hits hard Edit: As I was looking through other comments I saw more good lines. Damn man you said some really good quateable stuff. I'm glad to have this positive light say relevant stuff
This reminds me of something I told my nephew and that I've always lived by. When he asked me "How do you tell what is messing around, and what is bullying?" I told him one very simple rule.. "It's never okay to tease someone for something they can't control. If you want to joke around, just think 'Did they have a choice?' Did they put on that stupid looking hat by choice, or is it all their family could afford? Does it have to do with sexuality or race or something else they were born with? Hair style, make a joke. Hair color, dont. Stuff like that." It's a simple rule that has always worked for me. Especially as a kid you want to joke around and it's hard to know what might offend someone, so I think it's a pretty good rule. I'm glad you said something similar, because if more people took a moment to consider what they say, we would have much less passive aggression and hate.
I love this video. Thank you man, as a man of color it's actually insanely refreshing to hear all of this read. Considering I suffer HEAVILY from the "you're the whitest black guy I know" comment I just can't seem to win and this made me feel great.
Not the same. But get "you are the whitest mexican I know" all the time. Or that BS "your so eloquent" which hurts because I love my vocabulary and I know it's more a slight.
Prithviraj Manak yeah I don’t know, assuming you are a fan of cinemawins you wouldn’t say any movie is shit if it has wins... that movie if I remember correctly won bunch of rewards for visual effects, that’s a win, it is scientifically accurate, that’s 2 wins just right there.... the scene when Matthew is seeing videos of his children growing up is definitely worth 5 wins. The docking scene is one of the most intense scenes I’ve ever seen, conservative 3 wins there. That’s already 10 wins. And that was me trying to be unbiased. I personally think it’s a masterpiece. A good reason for that is the fact that even you who didn’t like the movie still remember it after so many years it’s been out.
Can I just say that this video is very refreshing for me considering the current state of our country. Thank you for using your voice and your platform to acknowledge how and why this film is needed for people who rather remain in their blissful ignorance than acknowledging the ugly truth of racism in America: that exists both in her past and present. Thank you for not being a trend follower and choosing to have an open dialogue with your viewers. Not just when its easy and trendy, but when it is hard to do so. I've always been a huge fan of your content, but with this one you've earned my respect. Now imma go rewatch this film...
Holy sh*t, I’ve been watching your videos for ages, and you probably won’t see this but I am genuinely amazed by your online presentation. The way you can remain so positive and never really seem to have any controversy attached to you, I’m impressed. You seem like the nicest guy ever and the fact that you put so much effort and research into topics you could never possibly relate to, baffles and astounds me. You’re amazing, keep up the good work. I love you, thank you for the great content.
I really want to thank you for giving that disclaimer. You truly have a respect for this type of cinima and I respect that. keep on going and never get out😉
Dude, everything you said in this video was really eye opening even for me, a young half black half Puerto Rican American. I really enjoyed how deeply you went into the racism in the world today and how it connects to the satire of the movie. I doubt you'll read this, but it really was awesome to listen to your "take" on the movie and the really deep meanings buried inside it. I'm only 15 but I think it is important to address certainty things that are going on in the world today, especially as someone who has to go to school and learn about history. I am glad that you were able to shine a light on something that was foggy and I'm sure is foggy for many Americans. Overall, great videos (parts 1 & 2). P.S. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN
Yup, all the groups that have been historically shat on always hear that. "It's not real, you're imagining it." or "That was fixed in the sixties/seventies, racism/sexism/homophobia/bigotry is over." While I, a white woman, can only speak from my perspective, I have lived my entire life listening to the casual sexism that makes me feel less like a thinking feeling human being and more like a piece of meat that's being evaluated for market potential. And I can only imagine how much worse that has to be for entire segment of humanity who were literally treated as pieces of meat being evaluated for their market value. So hearing people try to tell me that these systemic issues were fixed, are gone, are imagined, is some of the most insulting bullshit I have ever come across. Just because you haven't lived it, doesn't mean that I or billions of others haven't.
Ryn Flare hmmm you know I don’t disagree with you it still around and I won’t deny that. Personally I am a asshole so I treat everyone the same haha, just people who either are genuinely good people or are crappy people. To me I can’t really understand it, the idea of treating someone different because of the race creed culture sex or sexuality. I mean I do treat women better as in when joking with them or saying crude thing I try not to in front of them but that just how I was raised. It more so of a I fear my mother would beat my ass if she every found out I was disrespectful toward a woman haha. But people are just people we all have flaw and we all have perfections in us. To be honest I would like to hear your story or some words of advise you have. Wisdom from one source can be come ridge so it is best to seek out multiple sources and learn from them all to grow your understand of the issue. Anyways just wanted to say I like to chat and understand your view and see if you have any good stories to tell. Or tea (yes I am paraphrasing iroh haha)
@@dakotawoods4118 You had me at Iroh. I actually am some what similar in that regard. I tend to treat all people the same until they give me a reason to dislike them. More often than not I find it's entitled white boys that I have the most issues with cause I've been bombarded with the "nice guy" mentality (i.e. the "I owe them my body/a relationship because they put in x-number of kindness tokens" attitude). But assholes come in all shapes and sizes and they're the ones that always manage to make life just a little more miserable than it needs to be.
Wow thank you for making this video. Thank you for fighting for us. I went to Marquette University for 5 years and received micro aggressions almost everyday. It really took a toll. But anyway, you’re awesome.
I’ve been watching your content for a few years but this breakdown was different in ways I wasn’t expecting but am very pleased. A lot of people won’t speak on certain things out of fear they’ll lose their majority of support. So this was refreshing to hear
this is one of the first cinema wins videos I've ever seen and...........oh my god this channel is amazing. the amount of detail you went into and all of the disclaimers for people was incredible. I knew this movie was deep but wow
I don’t even know if I can put into words how awesome I think your disclaimer is. Thank you for speaking up on your platform and really giving us some hard truths in ways that people can (hopefully) hear and understand. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I really must say i didn't see that coming, but i think it was a very appropriate usage. This is real stuff and we shouldn't try to hide it with flowery words. Get to the point and speak your truth. What i really like is he didnt attack anyone. He spoke his mind and i will always respect that. Power to you my friend.
Agreed. It was jarring to hear that. Not that I mind it coming from him? Like I say it all the time. But it's like if Bob Ross were to just start swearing. Honestly it's a super effective way to use it in this video and I could feel the emotional tension in it. He just loves people and wants everyone to be ok and the fact that many people, myself included, just let bad things happen to other people for no other reason than it doesn't effect us is awful and makes him upset, justifiably so. Hearing that emotional response from him, such a negative, saddened, pained response is jarring and scary and it should be. That's a wake up call. He's upset. We should be too. Fixing the problem is hard, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying and improving ourselves and treating people better however we can.
*STANDING OVATION* FINALLy.. just thank you. Even I as a black person didn't even notice or acknowledge what you so eloquently stated. Thank you for being THAT person, THAT white person, who sees through all the bullshit, because honestly no matter how many 'conversations' we have as a nation it's like people are refusing to see things as they are, what they are, and how they are. You did that shit in part 1 and 2 of "Get Out", fuck everyone else who can't seem to understand or even take a minute to try and learnt it for them selves, THANK YOU.
For anyone posting links for other resources, please also email them to me: cinemawins@standard.tv Post them in the comments as well, but links get auto flagged by TH-cam, so I might end up missing some.
Hey. Thank you. Thank you so much for this.
I highly recommend "The Case for Reparations" by Ta Nehisi Coates, it's available online and it argues about the necessity of reparation towards black people in America. And then his book "Between the world and me" is a brilliant addition to that.
And then the book "Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race" by Reni Eddo-Lodge is an infuriating eye opener as well
Thank you thank you thank you for saying this. This movie is important. Having a conversation about this movie is important. I used to get upset when people believed that “racism is over” or “systematic racism is not real”, but now I see it as ignorance. People have to be willing to learn and be open to the truth. And I see you have done that. Thank you for being so open with your audience, and I am so glad I subscribed to your channel. Have a great day. -K 💜
Dude, I freaking love this channel. Personally, I love the multiple part videos because we get to hear more. Heck, I watched the last jedi video all the way through like 2 or more times because everything about it was great 😶. Keep doing you dude
Cannot recommend enough the implicit association test. It's not perfect, but it's a good barometer for implicit inculcated racism: implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html
"When we reduce people to one or a few characteristics, they hear all the time, we remove their humanity. "
Really love this line. Well said.
"When we reduce people to one or a few characteristics, they hear all the time, we remove their humanity"
> proceeds to focus solely on one characteristic of characters, their race
Genuinely curious on this. Where is the line though. Paying compliments to anybody of any race/culture/shape/size etc... For example. Is it okay to compliment someones flawless skin and beautiful natural undertones? Because they've put effort into keeping it like that? Or is it one of those micro-racisms if they don't share your race.
I'm a white girl and another girl at work who i've spoken to only twice, has jaw-dropping perfect deep dark skin, not a blemish in sight, a beautiful milk-honey under tone to it. I want to compliment her on it, because I feel she's blessed to have it. But I'm afraid of it offending.
If i met a white girl with equally perfect skin tone with no blemishes, i'd want to compliment her too. Is it removing someones humanity to compliment 1 thing they were born with? Or is it just paying a compliment, like complimenting someones haircut or new shoes?
I think the point is that people don't want to be defined by one thing, regardless if it's negative or positive. I'm Asian. I wouldn't be offended if someone commented on my "beautiful dark hair" or "pretty dark eyes," because those compliments have nothing to do with my race. They're perfectly generic, almost non-specific compliments that could be given to anyone with dark hair and eyes. That said, I'm not the most knowledgeable about racism and I'm really bad at picking out when something might be offensive. If you're uncertain on whether something would be offensive to someone, I think you could probably ask them. If you admit you're coming from a place of ignorance and apologize if you make a mistake (regardless of your intentions),
then hopefully people will see that you're making an effort to be respectful.
@@inmyheadathousandworlds "regardless if it's negative or positive. I'm Asian." You are guilty of doing it to yourself. IMO that's the systemetic brainwashing that "Get Out" is trying to establish.
Incredible video. As a black man hearing someone give such an honest and accurate description of so many types of racism brings me to tears. One of the best lines in the video was ‘If you’re just tired of hearing about it, imagine how tired people are of living it ‘. Such a powerful lesson that so many need to understand.
Also your acknowledgement that Chris constantly shoves himself down for the sake of everyone else is so spot on. EVERY black person has gone through that experience in one way or another whether it’s to not be labeled an “angry black man”, to keep others from feeling uncomfortable or whatever. Just one of the many things this movie (and in turn this analysis) nails about the black experience.
@@jaylenmcgill7802 this is so true omg
That line gave me chills
That line also goes for sexism and other forms of oppression, wow.
"The number of 'racism is over' comments on Part 1 is exactly why movies like this need to exist" Perfect. Just perfect. This is why Cinema Wins is one of the best channels on the internet, no exaggeration.
@@spenser9908 Dude are you serious?
Spenser an example is like school/work uniforms. at many jobs and schools black hair and hairstyles are against the dress code. by that i mean afros, braids, dreads, etc. but that’s just a less obvious one, yknow the main one is the legal system but i don’t really want to get into that.
@@spenser9908 People Of Colour are significantly more likely to have their vehicles searched for drugs dispite the fact that drugs are found in non-POC cars at nearly identical rates.
Continuing on from that, a POC is far more likely to face time in prison, and a longer sentence for drug possession than a non-POC.
Spenser I’m not here to attack or start a fight, but I would like for you to think of this the other way around. First, it’s important to establish and define what you mean when you say “single system or institution.” What kind of system or institution. Then, I want you to think “Is there any one system or institution that is provably not racist?” That doesn’t mean blatantly. Is there anything you can find where there is no background of privilege used only for the benefit of said system/institution? I’m not saying that groups can’t take advantage of the privileges they have, that’s like throwing away food because you’re “too privileged” while people are starving. What I’m saving this case for is the instances where there is privilege and it’s not used to help those who are not gifted with said privilege.
Spenser police brutality
I honestly didnt think you’d be brave enough to outwardly comprehend and articulate systemic racism like this on your successful channel. As a black man, having allies like you keeps hope alive
mandala jones - as a white person who’s learned that “ally” isn’t a term we’re entitled to award ourselves (or other white people), I hope other whites realize how significant it is to be referred to as an ally by someone who’s qualified to do so.
@@spenser9908 There are many systems that are racist. Off the top of my head I remember an experiment done where resumes were sent to companies some resumes had traditionally "white names" like John or Sarah and some had "black names" like Jamal or Laquisha. Statistics show that the resumes with "white names" got more phone calls from the companies than the ones with "black names".
I do agree with your point about putting us on a pedestal. It is just as dehumanizing as treating us like animals.
@@spenser9908 I'm sorry, but do you hear YOURself? Did you even read what Liz said. We, BLACK PEOPLE, are qualified to say who is and isn't an ally. White people can't speak for us, they're not black. Just like I wouldn't tell someone that they're an Asian ally because I'm not Asian. It should be significant to be told by the race you're trying to help that you're an ally. It's more rewarding than to label oneself an ally when they likely aren't.
@@spenser9908 Have you never heard of redlining?
@@spenser9908 Why are you trying to prove these people wrong? If someone says they've experienced systematic racism respect that? Like, as a black person seeing/hearing comments like yours are disheartening considering the shit i go through everyday. Have some i dunno, empathy?
“It doesn’t matter what the intention was, it matters what the outcome is” what an amazing quote, that’s some incredible life advice right there
Nietzsche said something similar
Exactly! It’s focusing more on your impact than your intent
I love it, it’s like when you accidentally step on someone’s foot on the street. When they say “ow” you can either apologize or blame them for standing there; but at the end of the day, whether you meant to or not, you did someone harm
Except the fact that intention definitely does matter.
I strongly disagree. Since you can not foresee how other people'll react to your words, the intention is what should matter.
14:08 the first time I’ve heard Lee say f*ck and I’m glad it’s in response to a racist statement.
Phenomenal
He said it in his Deadpool 2 vid
It took me by surprise.
Id call it ignorant. Not racist
@Dump the Frog
To me i find that kinda of racism from ignorance and not hate. So i mean weather or not its racist imo is debatable.
"If you lack a filter, learn one" love it.
Never.
@@DrMDHyde Well then you are just a dick.
@@DrMDHyde Good luck advancing forward in the real world
@Dr.S Huh?
@@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 It'll be extremely easy😞
1:42 when Rose is comforting Chris her arms are positioned in a choke hold position similar to the one Jeremy uses to try and incapacitate Chris later in the movie.
good eye
Ooh creepy
“And Chris plays it so calm and collected right until he realises he is in grave danger.
Chris is the epitome of a guy constantly shoving himself down so as not to upset the applecart.....It’s an honest take on how black people are often forced to conduct themselves to avoid confrontation”
100% on the mark.
Also, great job with your content. Makes me think of things I never have before on some of my favourite movies!
Just found you recently and wish I had found your content earlier! :)
I recently read The Hate U Give and it was an incredible eye-opener on how the main character Starr has two sides, the side she presents to non-black people (she uses less slang, doesn't get angry even when it's warranted, and tries hard to not come off as black unless it benefits her image such as being good at basketball), and the side she presents to her family (not using proper grammar when she speaks, makes jokes that most black people would get, and expressing herself because she knows she wouldn't be judged for it). And while the book emphasizes that these characteristics don't make her one or other race, it's actively her own mindset that creates a boundary because she's genuinely afraid of how she's perceived as one of the only black kids in an expensive primarily white school, and the entire time she felt like she had to be this way in order to not feel out of place. It made me realize that _I_ was doing the same thing without even realizing it and that it's most likely a subconscious effort for a lot of other black people.
"When we reduce people to one or a few characteristics, they hear all the time, we remove their humanity."
Dude. This is so wise. Thank you for making this video.
Spenser Except that’s not what it means. Did you even watch the video or are you just another butthurt racist complaining in the comment section? Lee goes in details in this video about it and like he says, it’s all worth a quick google.
@@spenser9908 bro did you not even watch the video?
Lee, I just wanted to say that as a Blackman, I always find it really refreshing how you tackle movies with racial themes. You try to understand, empathize and explain the plight of the characters in the movie and how they relate to their real-world counterparts and you, and this is my favorite part, you don't make it about you.
While you're the only voice who can physically speak in these videos you don't pretend as if racism is a thing of the past or get defensive like so many other people when faced with the reality of our world and how we contribute to it and honestly it makes me love your videos even more.
This is CinemaWins' magnum opus, no matter how many views the Marvel movies get, this video is a testament to Lee's dedication to film, and optimistic decency. This entire part two section of this film review blows any other video on this site out of the water because of how well researched, how consciously intentional, and how genuinely virtuous it is. You don't see other channels doing this; there's no incentive to make this second part outside of a real drive to see our nation's ugliest stain removed. I continue to keep coming back to this video because of how it makes me think, and I hope to create messages like this for the world in my own work. Bravo.
Hear, hear!
I love when your videos go into parts. One part positive uplifting CinemaSins parody and the second is your deep analysis of it and why you personally enjoy the film.
The only sad part is I have to wait another week.
But it is totally worth.
What I love the most about this channel is the analysis he makes at the end of the wins counter, letting us know what he likes, why he likes it and what the movie made him feel/think. So much better than a simple "this is right/this is wrong" video. (Sorry for my English, not my first language). (Edit for spelling).
@@zephiretamed2332 it's no problem at all. I've been speaking English for 19 years and I still haven't perfected it yet
The only thing that cinemasins and cinemawins have in common are the names. The first one is based in parody/humour. And cinemawins are based in analysis.
Also, its not really a parody, cinema wins is run by a friend of the cinema sins crew, its actually technically a sister location almost
@@pixelbox5874 doesn't cinemawins shade cinemasins a lot?
Even though, the "my dad killed your dad" scenario was oversimplified, that doesn't take away from its accuracy. I loved the analogy and it holds true. Thank you for actually speaking out about this topic unapologetically.
Oversimplifying things might actually be like a first step to helping people understand what you're trying to say so I actually think it's a good tactic. Make it simple at first but get into it more later. Especially for people who have a hard time being receptive of new ideas or ideas that they might think are attacking them.
Feels like I just watched a ted talk on racism.
and?
@@profoundschnook4381 youre just looking for a fight 😂
And that’s fantastic, am I right?
I doubt even ted talks would allow someone to seriously use "microagressions". There's a limit to stupidity.
Good ass ted talk
I remember first stumbling on this channel like... i love this dudes fair breakdown and optimistic views in this otherwise binary culture of critics reviewing things. Anytime race comes up ur MORE THAN FAIR... aware of ur own possible bias. Ur takes ask urself to ask urself to think about it from "our" (blacks) POV. I love it. Love the channel... keep it up. Great breakdown of a much needed movie and ur breakdown hopefully helped non-black folks to see what i immediately saw first viewing. Thank u.
I feel like he really nailed his analysis of how deep and ingrained 'racism' is especially coming from an area with lots of issues due to race.
Well, kind of. He says 'systemic racism still affects black people to this day', when things of the such only happen on marginal levels.
Love it. You're willing to admit that it affects people, but not enough to care. Goodness.
@@CinemaWins Total misread dude! People act as if its like in the 60s with racism. The racism you should focus on isn't the ever small systemic parts, but rather the racism on a personal level.
@@brandonkey181 coming from where I live it isn't just 'black people' it's all kinds of folks who in some ways are still deeply discriminated. It's a tough issue to solve, but I think acknowledging its there is a good first step.
@@drewhinds4439 If you live in an area in the US where racism is prevalent and visible you live in a rare place.
there are two things in this movie that i loved the most:
the fact that every single actor was astonishing
and that if you watch this movie a second time everything changes
The actress that plays Rose is out of this world. The instant transformation from Rose to RoRo is insane, it really got me when I watched the movie for the first time.
Zequicete same here
Watching in 2020, this may have been one of your absolute best videos, Lee. Amazing work.
watching in 2023 and it still is one of his best works.
Oof, to think 2020 is three years ago now
Me as a black person hearing this from a white person and you taking the time to make this just to educate many others makes me feel like their is a chance for racism to get better. Thank you :)
I really appreciate how CinemaWins explained for 15 mins about how the whole system is broken and how open-minded he is. Thank you man... thank you.
100th like.
Go back to sniffing glue
@@CompassRealty-1 the hell is your problem?
@@CompassRealty-1 ? ok get out
@@gabrielpanza5450 bahahahaha
The fact that your first F-bomb was this movie shows you genuinely care about everything you just said
Akchually, his first was in Deadpool 2, but you're correct that it does show he genuinely cares because he almost never swears in his videos.
When did he swear?
@@hansolo4017 The very end 14:07. Just a good solid "Fuck that."
I’m honestly proud of him
I really appreciate the effort you put into seeing things from other’s points of view
I like ur prophile picture
Despite the disclaimer you gave, almost everything you said in this video in regards to racism and micro aggressions was extremely accurate. I wish more people would take the time to understand and empathize on that level, the world would certainly be a better place. Thank you for being an outstanding human being.
As someone who desperately wants to see the world change: thank you for this video. Thank you for your courage in sharing it. Thank you for your honesty in acknowledging your own limitations. Thank you for sharing these links to help me and people like me learn more. Thank you for making the effort to reach that one person who is on the fence. Thank you for using your platform to try and make a difference.
100% agree...
(69th like btw)
As someone who never really understood systemic racism, the “my dad killing your dad” analogy finally made it click. Thank you Cinema Wins.
it also shows that a lot of the problems are economic ones which have roots in past racism but are not only present for oppresed but also not so priviliged privileged. also its one of the reasons US could benefit from a little bit of socialism to balance the scales
😂 that analogy makes me laugh
bruncla2303 agree and disagree. Why do you think Asians in America never get messed with? They are economically sound and have their own culture. Unfortunately due to the past of this country it seems african Americans aren’t kept to the same standard because they may be economically behind, as well as all minorities because of the system, politics, communities, etc. at the top where people don’t respect others the main root source is money. I respect people on character and how people handle themselves and how they think, and usually money follows that. Hopefully that makes sense because “a bit of socialism” would just further push down minorities and bring out racism, I mean look at Russia
@bruncla2303 How do we go about adding “just a bit” of socialism? It doesn’t work that way. It’s an entirely separate system that would require MASSIVE changes to how the US currently operates. Socialism is not just something you can use to “balance things out”. It’s not a magical band-aid that will compensate centuries of injustice. That is an incredibly false and somewhat dangerous way of viewing socialism. Read up on the effects it would have on free enterprise, how it would destroy people’s incentive for innovation if all their work would just become “socialized” after the fact. Socialism is an UNjust system masquerading as a just one, meaning any efforts made within the socialism framework to “balance things out”, as you phrased it, would only create a further divide. The very thing you’d try to fix you’d only make worse, because the tool you’ve chosen to fix it with is the wrong tool. It’s like trying to fix a leaky sink with a hammer instead of a wrench. You’d only break the sink further and turn the leak into a flood.
Asians were discriminated against in America, from as early as Chinese immigrants coming to work on the railroads to literal internment camps during WW2. Same with many other groups such as the Irish who were discriminated against and stereotyped a ton. The reason African Americans have had far more longstanding issues with class and race relations is due to many things, such as freed slaves being denied opportunities which led to the formation of poorer communities, urbanization and the mass migration etc. there’s about a million factors separating blacks from other American ethnic groups but it’s extremely, extremely ignorant to say that Asians never had any issues and that a “little bit” of socialism could suddenly fix long-standing prejudice.
1:33 "I still say dumb things... my goal is to always be learning"
Little tidbits of wisdom like this are why I love this channel.
"If you're just tired of hearing about it, imagine how tired people are of living it" Love this!
Great video, one of my favorite.
i liked that not only are you critical of the system you benefit from, you're critical of yourself. the "bingo" comment in the last video rubbed me the wrong way, even though i knew it was unintentional. realizing that we don't always have to be right is so important
anyone else want to see an Everything Great About "Us"?
@callmecatalyst 4 months later still waiting for it
@callmecatalyst get out is amazing. He broke it down so well. But we NEED the us break down. I would love to hear his perspective on it. Such an amazing movie easily in my top 3 movies of all-time. Absolutely loved us. Jordan peele is a genius
I had literally just searched to see if he had done that movie yet... that would we amazing
*God I love this movie!*
_Just love the way he just...._
**Clenches Fist**
*G E T S O U T*
get out.
*wait-*
"So we're some kind of *get out* now?"
@@slothful2039 what are we some sort of get out
I loved this exploration thank you so much. It was so beautifully said and truly the effort to be a decent person is what matters most. Some people think they need to bippity boppity boo racism away and all we’re asking for is effort. Try not to use that word. Try not to use micro aggressions. Try to see where we’re coming from when you’re held accountable. Try.
Also for the sake of learning, use capital B if you’re referring to our culture as opposed to the color. Like Asian or Hispanic or Irish. Black is for people, black is for boots.
Thank you, that makes total sense but I'd never considered it. I apologize, and here's to learning! Also, I'd like to point out how hyper-aware I am that I don't use bippity boppity boo nearly enough in conversation. Another thing to easily fix.
Im Irish american and i never even thought about it like ignorance is the worst thats why its always best to talk and learn thanks
This comment thread is inspiring.
@@The_Swordfish The most seditious thing about true ignorance is the inability to know how much you don't know. You're unable to recognize what's "missing" because you haven't experienced it before to form that reference point; not only do you not know or understand, you're not aware you could or should know or understand.
So one of the most important things we can do is educate ourselves and others, thoroughly and respectfully, through all aspects of our lives. And just make an effort to be better than we were.
This is why I value CinemaWins over cinemasins.
Lee will actually go more in depth on a film, what makes it work, and what makes it a piece of art. Be it a filmmaking style you may not have noticed or subtext you didn't understand. It's like an film essay but with plenty of goofy jokes and silly wins.
Jeremy of cinemasins just berates a movie, claiming it's all for the funnies. And his fans claim it's real movie analysis. That what he's saying is a sin is a real problem with a movie, when it's just some nitpicking BS.
Lee, I don't know if you'll see this comment. But just know that I love your videos sir. They've been funny and informative. I always await new CinemaWins content, even if I didn't personally enjoy the film being winned. I want to see a new perspective on movies, as their one of my passions. So keep being awesome, and making people smile.
I, too, am a fan of both. I actually like both ways I don’t prefer one or another. I like to see how bad a movie is, but I would of also see how good a movie is. The videos I like the most is when cinemasins and cinemawins agree on something like in kingsman the golden circle when they both agreed that the president scene was bad
Yeah it's fun to sit back and watch both, especially when they release a long video of the same movie. It's a real shame that people take such a harsh stances on a channel and hate on someone they don't even know.
Wait they are two different people?
CinemaSins is just annoying at this point, the sins are just annoying small things that they point out
the sins are obviously meant to be funny....
It still baffles me that people need to be directed to academic papers on white privelege to convince them it exists. As a white immigrant who was bullied in school for my accent, I became aware of the concept before I ever heard the term "white privelege" or even understood the nuances. I was just a shy 11 year old with a weird accent and my only friend was a brown girl at school and we were both bullied for being immigrants. I became obsessed with losing my accent because my juvenile logic was "if I sound the same as everyone else I'll just blend in". It wasn't until I found out that my friend wasn't even an immigrant, but a canadian-born child of Pakistani immigrants that it really hit me in the gut - here was a girl who technically was "more Canadian than me" in every way, who is receiving the same type of insults and bullying as me, simply because of her skin colour and "non-white" name. Meanwhile, I'd be at home reciting dialogue back at the TV and working on losing the accent. Eventually I did lose the accent, we moved to a different city and I started at a new school where I didn't get bullied because no one assumed that me, a white girl with a white girl name, was an immigrant. I effectively used the concept of white privelege to serve as an advantage. It was a pretty childish, simple minded thought - I'm being bullied about something that I can change about myself so I'm gonna go ahead and change it - but it uncovered a much deeper societal issue that I up until that point didn't even know existed. It made it quite obvious to me, even as a child, that what's happening isn't that some people are inherently ~ priveleged ~ and need to be knocked down, but that some people are inherently disenfranchised and need to be lifted up.
Just ran into your channel on accident and found this video and man, this was such a well-articulated breakdown on casual racism I didn't expect to find here. As a young black man trying to make my way in this tough world, knowing that people like you are around who truly understand our plight makes everything a little better. Good stuff man.
"If you're tired of hearing about it imagine how tired people are of living it"
Spenser You are a part of the problem and apparently didn’t get this video, AT ALL!
@@spenser9908 Argument to what? You completely ignored everything said in the video to make assumptions about someone else. Get over yourself.
Spenser Saying he is putting black people on pedestals? Like what? When did he do that? He makes various points as to how and why racism is still potent, yet all you take from it is that black people play the victim?
None of your claims make any sense whatsoever.
As a black man in Canada, who's dad is trying to showcase the systemic racism here in the community we live in, Thank you CinemaWins for saying everything you said in this video. It means alot
Hey fellow Canuck. I think it's important too, to spread the word that while Canada may seem "better" than it's American cousins, we are no less guilty of these self-same microaggressions and systemic racism. I was fortunate to be raised in a house where everyone, regardless of race or religion, was to be treated equally and fairly, but in that, I also recognise my privilege, as a white woman, to have that experience. I sincerely hope that we can all work together to open the eyes of Canadians so we can truly be a step closer to being as "equal" as we pretend we are. I plan to share this video on my facebook, because I feel it articulates things in a way that maybe, MAYBE I can get the point across to a few folks. Much love from Ontario, and I wish you and your Dad success in educating and opening the eyes of your community.
@@Tardisntimbits white people are systematically oppressed in canada
Don't get me started on indigenous people and systemic racism towards them because IT IS INSANE!---I live in Winnipeg and it's really out of control here.
@@bambii_thinks3147 yeah, theres systemic racism against people that get free housing, money, dont have to pay tax, have a higher chance of getting a job or into university, etc.
@@RyanGamesYT Clearly you are either un-educated or miseducated on the matter because you sound like fox news. I'm not sure if you are a troll or just miseducated but I encourage you to read peer-reviewed articles from experts about systemic racism indigenous people face in Canada because there are various forms, definitely not enough for me to outline on a comment section. Check out the Truth and reconciliation commission as well. Mind you I am literally a black immigrant in this country and I recognize that I experience WAY MORE PRIVILEDGE than indigenous people simply because they have way more negative labels attached to them. It's never that simple as you outlined it and I believe you don't have to belong to a marginalized group to be empathetic and do what you can to propel them forward whether it's sticking up for them in public when you hear comments being made, attending talks, volunteering what time you have or donating or simply LEARNING and LISTENING....Went off a bit on a tangent there but I'm not going to bother to reply when you can use google to educate yourself or atleast see that there is truth in what i am saying when you probably know there is. Perhaps you have had a hard life and your socio-economic status is difficult and you feel the need to subtly point out that things aren't easy for you whoever you are but you know that, that is not the same thing as having to experience life in someone else's skin with the attached labels, stereotypes that come with simply existing.
As a black Woman... love, love, LOVE everything said here.
sameeee
Yes I totally agree with you.
As a white male, I'm hungry
Gabi TGB ... for more content like this?
As a half white half Mexican Male with a basically adopted black son and a mix race biological son same
The world needs people like you, brother.
I find myself coming back to this video again because hearing your commentary on these topics makes me feel soo much better as a black girl. It just feels good to have a creator you genuinely enjoy be a good person too and really acknowledge you. Thank you
Appreciate the disclaimer, you're invited to the cookout.
Lmao
LMAO...i would grill this man a steak..
Great vid but stop doing that
"@@BluEx22329" seriously
Why is there so much fucking rasicm like look at the comments
Hey man, long time fan, and a black one at that. Trust me when I say, for those of us who are actually educated about how racism truly operates, especially as far as how laws and systems promote it to the benefit of some, we appreciate the effort and care you're taking to express these ideas, and, maybe sadly, does give me hope that ears that would dismiss your words coming from my mouth won't do that here.
You hit a lot of nails on their heads my brother, and considering I'd be hard-pressed to say that most people of similar skintone to myself know exactly what you're pointing at, so trust me when I say that, as far as I'm concerned, this isn't pointless or race-baitey or anything of the sort.
Thank you for actually being woke. At least as far as race relations go, you've earned the honorific.
Likes but no comments so here's one to help boost it.
Agreed brother
same
Agreed man, he explains the feeling of growing up as a black man in a white dominated environment very well for someone who has never experienced that level of racism, an incredibly educated guy.
One of my favourite parts about this film is how the protag always acts like a real person conceivably would in that situation, and once shit hits the fan his first priority is to get the hell out of dodge, unlike lots of lesser horror movies. Before watching this, I still wasn't really convinced that I liked horror movies, since the ones I'd seen were all just cheap jumpscares and contrived bullshit. But I've been convinced otherwise.
I know, right! Chris is the smartest horror film character ever! Apart from Rod, of course.
Jesus christ what a video. Gave my goosebumps by the end. So brilliantly articulated. Thank you Lee. You’re my inspiration for creating my youtube channel and this video was a direct reminder about how I should be living my life day to day and how much of an impact some strangers video could have on another. You make me wanna be better and create better. Thank you.
I know how serious this video is and everything, but I know you and Cinemawins seperately, so it feels a little like the.. "Adam Sandler? What're you doing here? But it makes total sense. I love both of you, making some actually deep and insightful commentary on media thats truly lacking nowadays. Thank you for your work, and I'm proud to have followed both of your channels for so long. Anywho, rambling aside, love you man! And to anyone who finds my comment, thank you, I don't know you, I don't think i'll ever know you, but i love you all the same. Take care!
can you please do more soulsgames?
Man. Great to see this. Obviously don't know you personally, but it is hard to believe you aren't a decent person with the care and research you put into this video. Hope the fam is well and be blessed!
every single word in this video makes me sad:
I'm sad that any of it needs to be said
I'm sad that it feels like I'm not the one who should be hearing it, even though some of it definitely is for me as well.
I'm sad that those who need to hear the rest of it will find some reason to switch of and ignore the whole thing, including all the back-peddling he did to make it go down easier for them
Effectively I'm sad that it won't resonate, because those who "already now" will miss the parts that are for them and those who deny will continue to do so.
It's all directed at me too. So that's 2 people. :)
CinemaWins I'm asian and my brother was bullied when he was little for being so as well. I was pretty sings sure I wasn't racist, but this video made me scared to realize the smallest part of me was like "I'm asian, that means I can't be racist" but that's absolutely untrue and I've known my whole life it is, but I still can't shake that feeling.
This This dude did his research and came with receipts! I appreciate you taking a step back and Reporting from another point of view
I as a black male honestly feel like I haven’t did enough to stand up for my race and for others like me this video is a start to time learning how to better be proud of my own body and knowing how to respect each human for what they are thank you cinema wins
I know how you feel and you're right 👍
I just sat here for maybe five minutes, knowing I wanted to reply to this, but not figuring out the right words to type.
For me, it’s hard to use what I’ve learned and experienced about respecting people despite race because of the changes made.
I used to be what’s now called “white knight” as a teenager. My mom did a good job of teaching me that people are always going to be both similar and different. I was just pretentious when I was younger and tried forcing people to recognize their jokes and words; I also never understood catharsis when it came to jokes.
Then boot camp happened. That was a good slap to the face for me. I experienced various forms of prejudice and how different people react to it. It was terrifying sometimes, but also humble at other times.
Some of my best experiences were knowing that my friends and shipmates could call each other out without being offensive or offended; we could make jokes with one another and know that we were just being sarcastic and not mean. We always encouraged each other and had each others backs.
Nowadays, this feels harder to do. Not with actions, but with words. I’m ready for the “challenge”, but I know I’m not going to appear “successful” for some people.
For example, I was at work (cashier) and didn’t realize I must have sounded like an awkward moron to this one couple until maybe ten minutes later. This couple was black and I got too comfortable. They mentioned something that my old friends would have said and I responded as if they were these old fiends of mine. It was my mistake though, and it wasn’t a bad moment or anything, but I can’t help but think what were they thinking.
For me, race has always been a normal, but beautiful thing. I love embracing it.
Anyway, please don’t feel you haven’t stood up for your race. Your existence proves negativity will never win in the end. I hope you will be proud of your body and mind soon. ^_^
Sorry for the ramble, this topic gets to me sometimes.
I honestly never could understand "standing up to my race". I have never stood up to mine. It never stood up to me. I probably had slaves in my bloodline, despite being white. There are a LOT of bad stereotypes about my countrymen and "general ethnic group" so to speak.
And I just can;t understand that. I want to be proud of who I AM not who my race is, my country is.
@@olotocolo in societies there are different social groups. Yes we are all individuals but we are also a part of these social groups. These groups bring us together but they also divide us. Like if some football players were making fun of band members one of the members of the band might stand up for himself in the other people in his social group. Race is an ascribed status which means you can't choose it. Which puts us all in a group we did not choose to be in. So you can take pride in it or not it depends on you and how you look at it. For people like me who take pride in their race will defend it if people try to make it look bad or say things that are not true. Like a bandsman would do to a football player.
"when we reduce people to one or few characteristics they hear all the time, we remove their humanity"
..... Wow man😭❤️
Right? I'm legit about to cry because of that. What an empathetic and powerful statement
As a black man disguised as a Charizard for a magnitude of reasons. I think you so very much for your understanding, clairvoyance and time used in trying to have people see things from our perspective. Thank YOU! Much respect and love!
7:43 "If it offends or makes the receiver uncomfortable, it doesn't matter what the intention was, it matters what the outcome is." This is what a lot of people just don't get. This applies to racism, sexism, classism, and even political views. Choose your words carefully and be understanding when someone doesn't react the way you want them to.
Listen. Be open-minded. Be empathetic. The world would be a lot better if everyone did exactly that.
Agreed. And it applies in the reverse too. If you are offended by something, it's okay or good to let them know, but chances are it wasn't their intent, so be kind in explaining, and they'll be more likely to change.
@@bradleypalmer9953 Exactly. A lot of the times, people aren't thinking about how they're offending others, so those offended also should choose their words carefully so their words are actually heard.
@@bradleypalmer9953 I was about to add this. We're all people trying to get along and we're all constantly learning as we go. It's completely fine to be uneducated about topics and not knowing how a phrase or word can be offensive to people, and it's equally important for the receiver to not make internal attributions about the sender, and just talk about it in a calm, empathetic manner. When we communicate we solve so much because we exchange a new truth, learn and improve.
Kaipyro67ALT the offended have always had to watch their words. I tire of being considerate of the inconsiderate.
While agree with everything Lee said, and I think you should always avoid offending people, if possible, I feel that it must be stressed that people don't have a right to not be offended. If someone finds your support for gay marriage offending, you shouldn't stop supporting it, and the topic shouldn't be taboo. A healthy rational discussion goes a long way in resolving conflicts and seeing someone else's point of view. This goes both ways of the political spectrum.
When the video is so powerful that the man drops an F bomb and the comments hardly mention it.
you are doing good things man, keep it up
I kept looking for comments talking about it immediately after. Been watching him for a while and never expected to hear that
That genuinely shocked me
I've never commented on a youtube video before. Mainly because its one of the worst places to ever exist. But i have to say something here: You are, and I am not saying this lightly, the best content creator I have ever had the pleasure of watching. You tread controversy in such a way that I cant imagine how people can even be upset with you. You dont avoid the issue in any way but yet you clearly tell us where your limitations are on the topic and you acknowledge there are better resources out there for understanding what you are saying. Thank you for being amazing and Im proud to have been one of your followers for the last 4 years. Keep it up.
I just wanna say I'm writing this with a lump in my throat. That last analysis was spot on. I'd consider u a white ally bc u use ur platform to help us. Adding responsible resources was a big plus. Gives me some added reading. Hearing u speak so passionately and clearly about perspective when it comes to racism is extremely appreciated. I didn't find u bc of this video but I'm glad to be following someone who can at least EMPATHIZE and use critical thinking and straight up facts to try to describe our struggle. It gets hard sometimes bc when a black woman like myself says the exact same thing I'm written off as angry, resentful and "too woke". And no, not everything is racist but picture this: black people live with the constant anxiety that maybe they're coming off as too black, maybe we didn't get the job, loan, house, raise or recognition bc we're black. Racism today is just as insidious as it was in the past if not more so bc whites then admitted it. Racist whites now keep it to themselves and in their secret clubs, as shown in the film. So blacks see racism everywhere not because if how it looks, but by how it feels. Thank you. I think ur woke enough.
When I heard the "F*ck That" it really touched me. I avoid certain conflicts and basically play devil's advocate on all things fucked up that I deal with as a black man in attempt to humanize both the victim and the preparator. But to hear that from you it's just so empowering. Almost akin to your first "everything will be alright" pat on the back from the person who usually needs you to save them. It feels like the good people who will always work harder to be good, ironically, are more than just the mantra they tell themselves,in front of other to make themselves feel better. Thank you. So much
As A mixed raced man, thank you for to effort, research and passion you put into this. I feel vindicated and seen just by how you have put this together. I sincerely thank you 🙏🏾 😊👍🏾
We out here lightskins !
Dear CinemaWins,
Like a few other viewers, I don't hail from USA. Therefore, like you, I only have the context of what I've seen, heard and read.
I personally hail from India, which is known for being a melting pot of culture, language and tradition.
Race is one of the major intersections in American society (by intersection, I mean a socio-cultural system that gives one particular group advantage or position over another by virtue of birth or characteristic). In India, a similar importance is given to caste. So while I'm basically a beta version of the Indian whiteman, I can understand the perspective of a community that always has to be guarded all the time, because they always get blamed, made into perpetrators, demeaned or dehumanised.
Some works of art that helped me further understand the nuisances of the racial system in America are:
Todrick Hall's (brilliant) album and film, Forbidden.
The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
The Colour Purple by Alice Walker
Many books by Alexander McCall Smith that dive into African culture and how, even within a particular race, caste, creed etc people have learnt to divide and rule.
I hope this helps.
Haven't gotten around to watching "The hate you give" yet. Heard its a good read
I didn't realize how deeply systemic the issue of racism is in America until I moved here from Malaysia. Malaysia is also a melting pot of cultures, races, and traditions as well. In Malaysia we have veiled racism but it's not as crazy bad as it is here in the United States. It was quite a culture shock when I first migrated here.
Forbidden is truly amazing
You might also like "13th" and "when they see us" (fair warning "when they see us" is extremely hard to watch especially when you know it's a true story (both can be found on Netflix)
I am Indian too, and I feel that castism in India (at least in middle class and upwards) is a good example of how it should be eradicated (I'm not talking about reservation). No one, now, asks which caste someone belong to. It has been turned into a laughing matter and otherwise completely forgotten.
Having said that, I realize that it still exists in some parts of society and among a significant part of the population and that it is different from being racist which, funnily enough does exist in our society. However, the point I am trying to make is, that things like racism and castism can truly be said gone when news don't say that a black/shudra succeeded in something; when we can make fun of it for its stupidity without any reservations.
But, maybe I'm wrong.
This. Conclusion.
Oh wow. This was the most truthful, necessary, and insightful 14 minutes I've ever experienced. You're a genius with words and you honestly had me so emotional to the point of tears at times. We are flawed, all of us, and we need to take your words to heart. Listening to you say how we all sometimes say or do things that are racist without realising genuinely hit me in the gut.
Thank you for this video. I will 100% rewatch this when I feel down.
Just watching this in November 2020 and I was nodding my head like I was at church, even audibly saying “Amen” out loud. I love opportunities to learn. So thank you.
"As humans, we have a tendency to contextualize things self centeredly" that hit home for me all too well. even more so when you gave the example of the girl who can't keep on weight. Never liked the idea of someone looking at me and thinking i'm the epitome of proper weight when i'm almost underweight due to high metabolism and have gotten a lot of crap because of it
First things first: I love this movie and there are so many great things to point out.
Second: do some Tarantino!
Django and Kill Bill vol 1 and 2 are my favs
Holy crap man, could we please get a transcript for this video? I'd love to source and quote what you've said here, it's helped me verbalise the way I feel about things in a way I usually struggle a whole lot with. Thank you for the amazing content
I just might manually transcribe this video's audio, because it was THAT good
Michael Smith right?! if you end up doing that please put it online!!
I saved a subtitle text file from it, still got all the timecodes in it though.
I skipped a bit of the beginning but the rest should be okay-ish:
pastebin.com/WLF4ksiV
Sorry to step on the work you've done here. My scripts are on patreon, but I'm opening this one up to the public for a week so anyone can have it. I reformatted it so it's easier to read than my usual excel sheet. www.patreon.com/posts/ega-get-out-part-31243177
Just wanted to say I’m a black man and I was brought to tears watching this video 🤞🏾
I just wanted to say that I appreciated your “Attention To Detail” u really hit home with ALL your points
And I just wanted to say THANK YOU 💙
(MrCinemaWins Guy) Lbvs
And no you didn’t go off the rails lbvs (insider)
"Who am I to change the system already in place? .....Fuck that
Wow that ending sent chills down my spine
Love this film..
But I NEED an ega Cornetto trilogy
Yes! Hot Fuzz and Shaun of The Dead are 2 of my favourite films. I'm surprised he hasn't already done them.
@@SertQuos yep but the world's end is my favourite
@@pyromaniac2104 it's a good film but most people agree it's the weakest of the 3, however if someone said I had to sit and watch it for the rest of my life I wouldnt complain.
Yes, please, yes.
@@SertQuos "it's a good film but most people agree it's the weakest of the 3,"
That's like being the worst of the Beatles. At the end of the day, you are still a Beatle, and that is more than most others can claim.
I’ve been listening to your work for the last 8 months now and I can’t come up with enough superlatives to express how well spoken, written and educated you are. Are your videos leave me with a smile on my face and this one really made me think. I think that’s all I can ask for when it comes to media in the style. Keep up the amazing work
There are like a million amazing things that I’m getting just out of viewing your videos and I’m SO grateful that both this movie and your review and analysis of the deeper meanings exist!
As a black man I appreciate thos whole video. I consider you an ally and love the amount of research you did and your point of view. Bravo bro!
Bro, I just binged about 8 of your videos back to back........
*Why aren’t more people subscribed??!!!*
He has 1.4 million subs but he could always use more I say.
Ok... wow... this was a "risky" video, for lack of a better term that could come to me right now and I just want to say, good job, like genuinely GOOD FRECKING JOB. I, a white, conservative, male college student loved this video. I hope no one looked at this videos positivity and just thought "pfft... liberals", cause that would be a disservice to the lovely man that makes these videos. (I've loved you for almost 2 years now I think). I loved this movie and loved what you said because one point out by @CinemaWins here actually made me stop and realize that I have done the "marginalization" part to my roomate, being a gay man, and me in the past saying he was my favorite gay guy... I now see that was NOT the way to say those things, hes not a gay man, hes a man that happens to be gay. It wasnt that I looked down on him for that, like AT ALL, but the way words are said have diffrent meaning. The whole point for this large paragraph was for that I hope this videos comments doesn't become political. I'm sure it will but that is not the point of this part 2. The point of this was for CinemaWins to speak his mind about a movie, and I would be upset to see if people dont want him doing that... It is his channel, it his entertainment, it is his art (yes I mean art, the way he talks about movies has creativity behind every word and punctuation). This is his playground, and even though there are sometimes points where u loose me (rarely I'll add), I love you and your work. I would want nothing more to see you make what YOU want, not what the audience wants you to do.
Keep up the work, I'll be here till the end, every movie from Megamind to GET OUT :)
Your loyal (not running ad block) viewer, Kole
P.S. Lee, keep doing what you want, but above all, make yourself happy.
👌
Never have I enjoyed a college essay more.
That's a good comment thank you for this comment
Lmao you seem like an actual conservative not the anti SJW reactionaries created by TH-cam “conservatism”
> conservative
> against systemic racism
Pick one
Rose's actress should have been Oscar nominated.
Ok, let’s take a moment to appreciate that even though it was a given that there would be disagreement in the comments, the comment section is still enabled. We don’t change people’s minds by censoring them, we change them by showing them the truth and let them do the rest. Second, that ending was brilliant. Keep this kind of stuff up please! Also please do EGA Speed Racer.
I don’t know if you’ll read this or not, but watching cinemasins for years then finding this gem, truly shows your understanding of your person in this world, you did a great job approaching this and it was done in the absolute best way possible, it’s hard to relate to what’s truly going on in this movie cause much like you, I am also a white male, but you make it so easy to grasp the underlying tones in this movie, that’s so hard to miss the first watch of this movie. As amazing of a job that Jordan Peele did directing this, you did equally amazing dissecting it, good job bro, keep shining. Ps. (I will do nothing but watch all your ads and like all your videos)
"If the system is already in place, who am I try to change it? Fuck that" damn man that hits hard
Edit: As I was looking through other comments I saw more good lines. Damn man you said some really good quateable stuff. I'm glad to have this positive light say relevant stuff
This reminds me of something I told my nephew and that I've always lived by. When he asked me "How do you tell what is messing around, and what is bullying?" I told him one very simple rule..
"It's never okay to tease someone for something they can't control. If you want to joke around, just think 'Did they have a choice?' Did they put on that stupid looking hat by choice, or is it all their family could afford? Does it have to do with sexuality or race or something else they were born with? Hair style, make a joke. Hair color, dont. Stuff like that."
It's a simple rule that has always worked for me. Especially as a kid you want to joke around and it's hard to know what might offend someone, so I think it's a pretty good rule.
I'm glad you said something similar, because if more people took a moment to consider what they say, we would have much less passive aggression and hate.
I love this video. Thank you man, as a man of color it's actually insanely refreshing to hear all of this read. Considering I suffer HEAVILY from the "you're the whitest black guy I know" comment I just can't seem to win and this made me feel great.
Was just in a league chat with my friends and they all say that they cannot believe that I am a young black man and that I sound white.
because they stereotype us to be loud, violent etc. so when we dont fit in that box theyre taken back
I get that too and am like “uh no that’s just my personality”
Not the same. But get "you are the whitest mexican I know" all the time. Or that BS "your so eloquent" which hurts because I love my vocabulary and I know it's more a slight.
It blows my mind that you haven't done Interstellar yet. I can not wait for the next Nolan film to get an EGA Interstellar.
YESSSS
Prithviraj Manak yeah I don’t know, assuming you are a fan of cinemawins you wouldn’t say any movie is shit if it has wins... that movie if I remember correctly won bunch of rewards for visual effects, that’s a win, it is scientifically accurate, that’s 2 wins just right there.... the scene when Matthew is seeing videos of his children growing up is definitely worth 5 wins. The docking scene is one of the most intense scenes I’ve ever seen, conservative 3 wins there.
That’s already 10 wins. And that was me trying to be unbiased.
I personally think it’s a masterpiece. A good reason for that is the fact that even you who didn’t like the movie still remember it after so many years it’s been out.
Can I just say that this video is very refreshing for me considering the current state of our country. Thank you for using your voice and your platform to acknowledge how and why this film is needed for people who rather remain in their blissful ignorance than acknowledging the ugly truth of racism in America: that exists both in her past and present. Thank you for not being a trend follower and choosing to have an open dialogue with your viewers. Not just when its easy and trendy, but when it is hard to do so. I've always been a huge fan of your content, but with this one you've earned my respect. Now imma go rewatch this film...
Holy sh*t, I’ve been watching your videos for ages, and you probably won’t see this but I am genuinely amazed by your online presentation. The way you can remain so positive and never really seem to have any controversy attached to you, I’m impressed. You seem like the nicest guy ever and the fact that you put so much effort and research into topics you could never possibly relate to, baffles and astounds me. You’re amazing, keep up the good work. I love you, thank you for the great content.
I really want to thank you for giving that disclaimer. You truly have a respect for this type of cinima and I respect that. keep on going and never get out😉
I've never heard someone describe microaggression so succinctly before. Thank you so much.
This is absolutely incredible, and it should be shown in schools.
Dude, everything you said in this video was really eye opening even for me, a young half black half Puerto Rican American. I really enjoyed how deeply you went into the racism in the world today and how it connects to the satire of the movie. I doubt you'll read this, but it really was awesome to listen to your "take" on the movie and the really deep meanings buried inside it. I'm only 15 but I think it is important to address certainty things that are going on in the world today, especially as someone who has to go to school and learn about history. I am glad that you were able to shine a light on something that was foggy and I'm sure is foggy for many Americans.
Overall, great videos (parts 1 & 2).
P.S. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN
The fact that you went the extra mile really reminded me again why I've been watching you for years, I love this channel
Yup, all the groups that have been historically shat on always hear that. "It's not real, you're imagining it." or "That was fixed in the sixties/seventies, racism/sexism/homophobia/bigotry is over."
While I, a white woman, can only speak from my perspective, I have lived my entire life listening to the casual sexism that makes me feel less like a thinking feeling human being and more like a piece of meat that's being evaluated for market potential. And I can only imagine how much worse that has to be for entire segment of humanity who were literally treated as pieces of meat being evaluated for their market value.
So hearing people try to tell me that these systemic issues were fixed, are gone, are imagined, is some of the most insulting bullshit I have ever come across. Just because you haven't lived it, doesn't mean that I or billions of others haven't.
Ryn Flare hmmm you know I don’t disagree with you it still around and I won’t deny that. Personally I am a asshole so I treat everyone the same haha, just people who either are genuinely good people or are crappy people. To me I can’t really understand it, the idea of treating someone different because of the race creed culture sex or sexuality. I mean I do treat women better as in when joking with them or saying crude thing I try not to in front of them but that just how I was raised. It more so of a I fear my mother would beat my ass if she every found out I was disrespectful toward a woman haha. But people are just people we all have flaw and we all have perfections in us. To be honest I would like to hear your story or some words of advise you have. Wisdom from one source can be come ridge so it is best to seek out multiple sources and learn from them all to grow your understand of the issue. Anyways just wanted to say I like to chat and understand your view and see if you have any good stories to tell. Or tea (yes I am paraphrasing iroh haha)
@@dakotawoods4118 You had me at Iroh.
I actually am some what similar in that regard. I tend to treat all people the same until they give me a reason to dislike them. More often than not I find it's entitled white boys that I have the most issues with cause I've been bombarded with the "nice guy" mentality (i.e. the "I owe them my body/a relationship because they put in x-number of kindness tokens" attitude).
But assholes come in all shapes and sizes and they're the ones that always manage to make life just a little more miserable than it needs to be.
well said
“Light racism” = micro agressions
Wow thank you for making this video. Thank you for fighting for us. I went to Marquette University for 5 years and received micro aggressions almost everyday. It really took a toll. But anyway, you’re awesome.
I’ve been watching your content for a few years but this breakdown was different in ways I wasn’t expecting but am very pleased. A lot of people won’t speak on certain things out of fear they’ll lose their majority of support. So this was refreshing to hear
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I cannot convey adequately how grateful I am that you were brave enough to share this.
I love these commentaries. I didn’t expect this to be this deep.
Acknowledging ignorance is the best way to make a change.
*the crowd gives an ongoing standing ovation*
i’m sitting here by myself and i genuinely clapped once it was over
This was just beautiful
this is one of the first cinema wins videos I've ever seen and...........oh my god this channel is amazing. the amount of detail you went into and all of the disclaimers for people was incredible. I knew this movie was deep but wow
The my dad, your dad analogy got the point across perfectly glad you left it in
This is the best video on racisms and parallel perspectives that I've ever heard. Seriously, you opened my eyes brother, even as a black man. Saved
I don’t even know if I can put into words how awesome I think your disclaimer is. Thank you for speaking up on your platform and really giving us some hard truths in ways that people can (hopefully) hear and understand. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I had hoped you never dropped the f bomb. That alone was scarier than the movie.
I was actually spooked.
Nikoli Elite ?????
I really must say i didn't see that coming, but i think it was a very appropriate usage. This is real stuff and we shouldn't try to hide it with flowery words. Get to the point and speak your truth. What i really like is he didnt attack anyone. He spoke his mind and i will always respect that. Power to you my friend.
Agreed. It was jarring to hear that. Not that I mind it coming from him? Like I say it all the time. But it's like if Bob Ross were to just start swearing. Honestly it's a super effective way to use it in this video and I could feel the emotional tension in it. He just loves people and wants everyone to be ok and the fact that many people, myself included, just let bad things happen to other people for no other reason than it doesn't effect us is awful and makes him upset, justifiably so. Hearing that emotional response from him, such a negative, saddened, pained response is jarring and scary and it should be. That's a wake up call. He's upset. We should be too. Fixing the problem is hard, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying and improving ourselves and treating people better however we can.
Great time to drop an F-bomb, i approve! Lol
Now when I watch Key and Peele… I know who came up with the horror comedy sketches. It’s amazing how many there are in the series. It’s brilliant
I loved this video. 🥺🥺 As a black woman, this was so refreshing and an amazing video to watch. Thank you.
*STANDING OVATION* FINALLy.. just thank you. Even I as a black person didn't even notice or acknowledge what you so eloquently stated. Thank you for being THAT person, THAT white person, who sees through all the bullshit, because honestly no matter how many 'conversations' we have as a nation it's like people are refusing to see things as they are, what they are, and how they are. You did that shit in part 1 and 2 of "Get Out", fuck everyone else who can't seem to understand or even take a minute to try and learnt it for them selves, THANK YOU.