It can teach you the basics and instruments, but it will never be the same as being in a real cockpit. Learning radio communication and the fact that your life is on the line when you are up in the air is reality.
I agree with last part, because radio communication can also be trained on Vatsim or IVAO, of course not under the same conditions, but its basically like the real thing
Sitting on a chair in a room with screens in 2D is nothing like the real thing. So whilst you can learn where the controls are and the like, the real thing is a very different beast.
The same is true for driving any vehicle. Cars, trains, planes. You can't get that sensation of movement and momentum without physically being in the vehicle or at least a full motion simulator.
Sims are great for procedural things - flying IFR procedures like STARs, SIDs, Approaches, Holding, etc. It can also train pilots in aircraft procedures like preflight and emergency procedures. Where it falls short are the actual stick and rudder skills so vital to a good pilot. Some large training devices do accurately simulate control forces, but it’s near impossible to 100% accurately simulate the real feel of the aircraft as you fly.
@@byronrogers4489 Short of plugging a computer into the brain, (a la the ONI from Ready Player 2), it's impossible. You can get close with a Level D sim, but they're highly expensive and even they have their own limitations. X-Plane and Microsoft Flight Sim are good for practicing procedures and getting a general understanding, but not developing the raw stick and rudder skills. That takes time in the real aircraft.
@@ManyManyPandas Yeah that’s how I feel about them as well. I’m a student pilot right now and did years of flight simming prior to starting my flight training. I think it helped me with instruments and procedures, and generally more visual aspects of flight. The actual flight controls is definitely where it falls short. I flew on vatsim A LOT prior to training so that made me very comfortable on the radios.
Speaks volumes when professional pilots use them to prepare for recurrent training, airport familiarization etc. And definitely gives the avgeek a huge advantage. But only real life training can teach your body to fly an airplane.
Xplane graduate here, when I did my first heli lesson the instructor noted I was picking things quite quick and basic skills people take around 10 hours to learn, I was doing it within the first hour. Fixed wing wasn’t any different either, but most sim pilots tend to completely ignore the rudder or overuse it.
Fun fact! The original Microsoft flight simulator was made for only people who had plane license so they could learn how to fly. They’re also used in plane simulation booths
Back in the 80s I had a MSFS and used the single engine prop plane i did it a lot. One day i wanted to take a lesson and the instructor told me where did you learn how to fly? (this was my first time in a real aircraft). I myself didn't realize it was all those hours on the MSFS that did the training i did it for fun. The more you use the simulation the easier it will be in a real aircraft.
I think it can teach you how to get lined up to the runway and to do an automated landing as that is easier without any experience compared to doing it without ever having done it before. But I'd say no on a purely manual hands on way.
I've been a simmer for over 30 years and yes the new sims are good but to me I get more out of the older sims like MSFS 2002..CENTURY OF FLIGHT..FSX..XPLANE.. When I received my PPL back in the 80s there wasn't really any good realistic Sims but they were catching up really fast in realism...The best way to get a good feel of flying is to go to a local airport and take some flight traininf..that's where you get the "bump and grind"..the up and down of turbulence and the feeling of moving through the air....that song "Ain't nothing like the real thing..baby" says it all.. After you get some hours behind the controls and you get to solo ..then it all starts to gel. The basics in most sims is the process of pre fligh..startup radio comunication.. and learning to fly looking outside (VFR Flying)... IFR Flying is another level that's very important..but most will fly VFR..90% of their early in the game. Flight sims are what I call( IRON SHARPENING IRON).... Race car drivers use racing sims..Football players use JohnMadden football.. Farmers have farming sims..Ship captains use sim to practice their art of traversing the oceans.. Still the best experience is the hands on touching the beast... Oh and it's fun too.. 🐦
Dude pilots are over rated like on a mass level these days. It’s basically a bus with wings. Just because the training is expensive does not mean it’s hard. 😂 yeah I’m a dxxk.
First hand experience. I tried landing a J3 Cub (with a pilot onboard) and totally messed up the approach and airspeed. 100 landings in MS FS with the inbuilt instructor and my next RL approach and landing in an RV7 was spot on, all the way in. ✈️ 🛫
The only flight simulator I have experience with that can actually train you on how to handle a stick/yoke and rudder is IL-2: 1946. It doesn’t have ANY of the things mentioned in this video about FSX, MSFS, or X-Plane but what it does have is that if you pull that stick to hard or you push that rudder to far you’re in for an entertaining flight. Aircraft can slip inside an airstream just the same as a car can slide on a road, and it’s really easy to push just a little too hard and lose control on your bird.
It can definitely get u to the point where it’s so close but I’ll never get u in a real cockpit alone. I spend many years flying simulator since I’m five years old and wanna start my airline pilot training soon. I m very familiar with both real and simulator aviation. Msfs especially can get u so close to real world operation procedures. With the right time and money u can not only get the sim look pretty ipressive but also be pretty impressive every part of the flight and even the crew can be represented but it won’t change the fact that ur sitting infront of a monitor. And this is how it’s supposed to be it should umpresse u entertain and maybe motivate u on ur journey into the cockpit and in fact it can help u fly a real plane but won’t make u an official airline pilot ofc not a training cost more then 100.000 euros would be silly if u get it for a thousand in a sim. Airlines chose Pilot for a specific reason not after their knowledge of plane they bring with them but more for a solid and appropriate person with no previous knowledge
I like using them for practicing procedures and stuff like that but when it comes to the practical things like landings and takeoffs it really can’t compare
If you're learning to fly a real light aircraft, MSFS can be a great tool in learning. With a real world representation you can practice cross country flights beforehand.
Muscle memory? Pretty sure that's the last thing you end up training if at all. Pretty sure you operate aircraft by finding and flipping switches or setting a dial manually and not by click and drag.
Spacial memory probably a more accurate way to describe it. Unless, of course, you build a physical cockpit that resembles the real thing and has switches, buttons and knobs in the same places.
I don't need to know if microsoft flight simulator can actually teach you how to fly a plane, I want to know if having experience in the game can help you land a real plane if the pilots are incapacitated
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It can teach you the basics and instruments, but it will never be the same as being in a real cockpit. Learning radio communication and the fact that your life is on the line when you are up in the air is reality.
I agree with last part, because radio communication can also be trained on Vatsim or IVAO, of course not under the same conditions, but its basically like the real thing
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@@luchsegamer8112 haha, moin!
Sitting on a chair in a room with screens in 2D is nothing like the real thing. So whilst you can learn where the controls are and the like, the real thing is a very different beast.
The same is true for driving any vehicle. Cars, trains, planes. You can't get that sensation of movement and momentum without physically being in the vehicle or at least a full motion simulator.
Can confirm this. Spent years on aerofly and x-plane. And when it came down to my cpl I had a great advantage to all my classmates.
Technically X-Plane 11's plane physics are better than Microsoft Flight Simulator,MSFS is for the scenery.
Sims are great for procedural things - flying IFR procedures like STARs, SIDs, Approaches, Holding, etc. It can also train pilots in aircraft procedures like preflight and emergency procedures. Where it falls short are the actual stick and rudder skills so vital to a good pilot. Some large training devices do accurately simulate control forces, but it’s near impossible to 100% accurately simulate the real feel of the aircraft as you fly.
And how long will it take you to exoerience 100 percent of the thing you will experience flying a real plane?
@@byronrogers4489 Short of plugging a computer into the brain, (a la the ONI from Ready Player 2), it's impossible. You can get close with a Level D sim, but they're highly expensive and even they have their own limitations. X-Plane and Microsoft Flight Sim are good for practicing procedures and getting a general understanding, but not developing the raw stick and rudder skills. That takes time in the real aircraft.
@@ManyManyPandas Yeah that’s how I feel about them as well. I’m a student pilot right now and did years of flight simming prior to starting my flight training. I think it helped me with instruments and procedures, and generally more visual aspects of flight. The actual flight controls is definitely where it falls short. I flew on vatsim A LOT prior to training so that made me very comfortable on the radios.
XPlane is better as it uses a laminar model and can be used for real life certification
Speaks volumes when professional pilots use them to prepare for recurrent training, airport familiarization etc.
And definitely gives the avgeek a huge advantage.
But only real life training can teach your body to fly an airplane.
Bump and grind....
Xplane graduate here, when I did my first heli lesson the instructor noted I was picking things quite quick and basic skills people take around 10 hours to learn, I was doing it within the first hour. Fixed wing wasn’t any different either, but most sim pilots tend to completely ignore the rudder or overuse it.
Where you flying like a Robinson R22 or 44?
Fun fact!
The original Microsoft flight simulator was made for only people who had plane license so they could learn how to fly. They’re also used in plane simulation booths
Back in the 80s I had a MSFS and used the single engine prop plane i did it a lot. One day i wanted to take a lesson and the instructor told me where did you learn how to fly? (this was my first time in a real aircraft). I myself didn't realize it was all those hours on the MSFS that did the training i did it for fun. The more you use the simulation the easier it will be in a real aircraft.
it familiarizes you with.the cockpit instrumentation
captain sim: am i a joke to you
I have learned incredible things in X-Plane. Flying the 767, 737 and 747-200, I have had dozens of hours of fun.
Yay!! A video about Microsoft Flight Simulator!
Please make moreee
So basically it's great for practice but it would never be complete with actual real life flight hours.
I think it can teach you how to get lined up to the runway and to do an automated landing as that is easier without any experience compared to doing it without ever having done it before. But I'd say no on a purely manual hands on way.
"Can MSFS teach you how to fly a plane?"
Skyking is my answer....
It's good for all of us to learn how to fly a plane in an emergency if the pilot dies or gets incapacitated because of you know what. 😮💨💉
What I like about Flight sims is that you can play totally serious with the simulation or just fly around different airplanes
DCS is a good sim too
Xplane on the other hand has a pro version for getting real hours done on the SIM as it has the best physics so xplane yes
It can, but it can't teach you not to panick when you do the real thing🤣🤣
please make a full video out of this 😊 or even better a long haul one
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No it can't as it's not the most realistic in physics
short answer: no
long answer: yes
I've been a simmer for over 30 years and yes the new sims are good but to me I get more out of the older sims like MSFS 2002..CENTURY OF FLIGHT..FSX..XPLANE..
When I received my PPL back in the 80s there wasn't really any good realistic Sims but they were catching up really fast in realism...The best way to get a good feel of flying is to go to a local airport and take some flight traininf..that's where you get the "bump and grind"..the up and down of turbulence and the feeling of moving through the air....that song "Ain't nothing like the real thing..baby" says it all..
After you get some hours behind the controls and you get to solo ..then it all starts to gel.
The basics in most sims is the process of pre fligh..startup radio comunication..
and learning to fly looking outside (VFR Flying)...
IFR Flying is another level that's very important..but most will fly VFR..90% of their early in the game.
Flight sims are what I call( IRON SHARPENING IRON)....
Race car drivers use racing sims..Football players use JohnMadden football..
Farmers have farming sims..Ship captains use sim to practice their art of traversing the oceans..
Still the best experience is the hands on touching the beast...
Oh and it's fun too..
🐦
Dude pilots are over rated like on a mass level these days. It’s basically a bus with wings. Just because the training is expensive does not mean it’s hard. 😂 yeah I’m a dxxk.
... you have to have the touch to fly well otherwise you oversteer most planes ... got to let them fly ... you just guide them usually ...
I will test my skills from years of home flight simulator flying on a a320 Level D simulator. Some airlines allow private people to rent their sim.
Didn’t the guys who were in love with broken towers train on msfs
PREPAR3D is THE BEST
Best study-level one.
Me wishing I can have a PC💀
So basically no.
Bcs of msfs and X plane I memorised 738 startup checklist at the age of 12...
And yes I've started midair with NO ENGINES
First hand experience.
I tried landing a J3 Cub (with a pilot onboard) and totally messed up the approach and airspeed.
100 landings in MS FS with the inbuilt instructor and my next RL approach and landing in an RV7 was spot on, all the way in. ✈️ 🛫
No.
Simulating stimulis lieing
The only flight simulator I have experience with that can actually train you on how to handle a stick/yoke and rudder is IL-2: 1946. It doesn’t have ANY of the things mentioned in this video about FSX, MSFS, or X-Plane but what it does have is that if you pull that stick to hard or you push that rudder to far you’re in for an entertaining flight. Aircraft can slip inside an airstream just the same as a car can slide on a road, and it’s really easy to push just a little too hard and lose control on your bird.
It can definitely get u to the point where it’s so close but I’ll never get u in a real cockpit alone. I spend many years flying simulator since I’m five years old and wanna start my airline pilot training soon. I m very familiar with both real and simulator aviation. Msfs especially can get u so close to real world operation procedures. With the right time and money u can not only get the sim look pretty ipressive but also be pretty impressive every part of the flight and even the crew can be represented but it won’t change the fact that ur sitting infront of a monitor. And this is how it’s supposed to be it should umpresse u entertain and maybe motivate u on ur journey into the cockpit and in fact it can help u fly a real plane but won’t make u an official airline pilot ofc not a training cost more then 100.000 euros would be silly if u get it for a thousand in a sim. Airlines chose Pilot for a specific reason not after their knowledge of plane they bring with them but more for a solid and appropriate person with no previous knowledge
X-Plane yes. MSFS no.
I like using them for practicing procedures and stuff like that but when it comes to the practical things like landings and takeoffs it really can’t compare
The answer is yes
its not
Well let's be honest,you used to be able to accrue flight hours in the old sims
I'm in my 30s. It is truly amazing how far these sims have come.
If you're learning to fly a real light aircraft, MSFS can be a great tool in learning. With a real world representation you can practice cross country flights beforehand.
Thinking of you SkyKing ✈️
Muscle memory? Pretty sure that's the last thing you end up training if at all. Pretty sure you operate aircraft by finding and flipping switches or setting a dial manually and not by click and drag.
The muscle memory comes from knowing instinctively where all those switches are.
Spacial memory probably a more accurate way to describe it. Unless, of course, you build a physical cockpit that resembles the real thing and has switches, buttons and knobs in the same places.
@@flightsimdeskuk thank you finally someone that didn't skip biology class
I don't need to know if microsoft flight simulator can actually teach you how to fly a plane, I want to know if having experience in the game can help you land a real plane if the pilots are incapacitated
No. I am a private pilot. No, it's not the same. That's a damn game. Grow up.