Rusty is also still friendly to him in the last case over at Fontaines Surgery. Maybe it's because he has been through so many marriages already xD. He doesn't care lol
I love how this case starts, Phelps is still depressed after her wife's divorce and when they get to the houses, they show how crude and horrifing Arson cases are going to get, even more from the homicide cases. And from all the colleages you got, Hershel is the most realist colleage from all of them as much as Mal is.
When I played this level just recently, I responded to a street crime on the way to the crime scene. Biggs was a deadeye shot who put down three active shooters without a second thought. Then a few minutes later in the car he says "I never fired my weapon in the line of duty..." Barely 10 minutes before, he shot and killed three men!
They should've made it so you can only start doing Street Crimes again in the second Arson case, but I guess that would've only given people who didn't have the DLC a smaller window to play the Arson Street Crimes.
"Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young." Of course Herschel is going to be a crackshot: He is a veteran cop and fought in WW1.
Fun fact: Matthew Ryan serviced Adrian Black's heater way back in "The Driver's Seat". You see "M. Ryan" on the receipt you find in the Black residence.
@@Agent1W Sure, except for the fact that Ivan Rasic provides you with an entire list of all of his installers, and there’s only one M. Ryan on the list. Additionally, the entire game takes place over the course of a single year, so it seems doubtful that there would be any other M. Ryans working there with such a short list of installers within the same year. It was clearly meant to be a foreshadowing reference that people playing through the game a second time would notice. So I feel that your assertion is not correct
@@Ry_An3146 I appreciate that. Something I forgot to mention as well is that Margaret Black informs you that their Instaheat system was installed only very recently, making it almost certain that Matthew Ryan is the man who installed their system
@@LuchoCastle_11 Should be obvious it was intentionally a high sum. You can tell by his surprised "Fifty???" reaction. He probably didn't donate this much money though.
@@Metal9040 Wait, if your numbers ad B.J. Blazkowicz's are right considering the date of the comments, does that mean than in a ~ one year period the dollar suffered ~10% of inflaction? Isn't that too much for a allegedly steady currency?
I feel real bad for Cole Phelps at this point in the story, and the character that I grew to like most is the one that we never even see. The R&I operator is the only one that is nice to him anymore.
I can't condone what Phelps had done to his family. I'm same as Mal (10:05). I dont feel sorry for him as much as you gave him. I know I may get hounded for this but it is a brutally honest opinion from me. I mean, Phelps cheating for a woman who was formerly from an enemy country was in fact a more serious issue, even worse then the LAPD Vice scandal from a public point of view. If Phelps was really seeking atonement for the Sugar Loaf situation and the cheating by exposing the corrupt from within, that I respect.
He went and fucked the german again when his wife left him. He doesn't have remorse on what others are going through He just feels bad because he got caught Typical guy who thinks war can be an excuse to pull any shit
@@hammerbro1947 That Scottish captain is a POS, his whole personality is taking digs at other people but never himself. Discrimination against commies, dislike of Germans, covering up the Dahlia case.
One of many things that I love about this game is that they pick actors with "old timey" faces, it really sells the authenticity of the era the game tries to capture.
Cole deserves no sympathy he was married and had kids and betrayed them hate roy all you want he warned cole not to do anything stupid that Cole and Courtney were the worst characters
@@kingsboro1 To be fair to Cole. The war changed him. Made him distant towards his wife. Elsa was the only person he could confide to with his experience. Not an excuse sure but it's not entirely black and white
@@NyQuiiLx Because of Roy, that fucking scumbag. You look at the newspaper when you chase Cohens thugs from the diner in Manifest Destiny, it's shows Roy going into the Chiefs office and telling them about Cole and he wanted something in return. My guess is he wanted to be on Leland Munroes payroll because his name is in his book about three times in his vault when Jack Kelso breaks into his house
@@COZCATL True, sometimes Liars can be true culprits. Besides, Ryan gave the coils to Varley because of Ryan's excuse of using them for camping. I initially thought Varley, but that statement sealed Ryan's fate. That coil was the key evidence of locking Ryan in the cells due to the arson.
Actually, we the players know that neither Varley nor Ryan are the killers. In the opening cutscene you see the actual perpetrator. Not only does he drive a different car, you can easily tell that it is somebody else (different hair, body shape, clothes and all that) The only reason why charging Varley is considered a fail, is that the McKelty hates anarchists and thus wants to see Ryan behind bars just for that reason alone.
@Jonathan Stone Because it didn't matter to them. Not only was the LAPD corrupt, but as they say in the beginning: Arson is the dead end job where you half ass your way through. And in general, as long as you present somebody as the perpetrator, that's fine, especially if he fits the agenda, like the guy being an anarchist. This was already perfectly shown in the Homicide Desk: You charge Femway and everybody is happy that you put somebody behind bars. That is what matters. That he wasn't the murderer came out and he was quietly released, nobody cared. Same in the Golden Butterfly: You put Eli Rooney behind bars, get a pat on the back for putting that pedophile out of public, even though the whole case was rather wonky to begin with. Most of the cases in the game are based on real cases and the whole story of Phelps being framed and it being a cover up for a prostitution scandal and how corrupt the cops are is based on the real life prostitution and corruption scandals of the LAPD in the late 40's. They all were corrupt and didn't give a fuck who went behind bars or didn't. The rate of innocent people ending up in prison was quite high back then.
If you think about it. It's really Cole's fault that did this to himself. He wasn't force to cheat on his wife. So maybe like the game got harder at this part because its more of a punishment.
Ah yes, Kenny Cosgrove and Stephens interrogate Peter Cambell to find out why he's burning down houses. This is by far the strangest episode of Mad Men yet.
i love that despite his hot headed temper, Captain McKelty seems to be rather fair with Phelps and basically gave him his final chance because he knows that Phelps is (or was) the best case man in the game.
Don’t see why the writers suddenly seemed to turn their back on Cole. He had an affair for literally no reason, never mentioned anything about him being unhappy with his wife and daughters and kill him in the last mission. He picked the German girls life over watching his two daughters grow and it just seemed a cheap resolve for such a good game.
I felt like Cole was phony in some ways. Like he's noble, but kind of overdoes it to make up for his time during the war. During the flashback scene where he gets awarded with a silver star, he felt like he didn't deserve it, but accepted it anyway. When Cole met Johnny Stamponato and Mickey Cohen, Johnny mentioned that he heard of Phelps and his silver star. All Phelps said was, "something like that..."Roy (and to a lesser extent, Rusty) noticed the way Phelps acted during cases, even saying "i don't have the same voices in my head as you, Cole" when talking about his interaction with a person of interest. Jack Kelso is pretty much the real version of what people thought Cole was during and after the war. The two are very similar (which is a theme brought up early in the game), but the flashbacks show how they're different.
I was so mad when I first played the game, after the insanely good Homocide desk, the tone shift in Vice, the downhill into Arson desk… I hated where the story gets wonky and you start playing as Jack, but now in retrospect I realize they did that to put the “Noire” in L.A. Noire: a messy, imperfect story that ends in tragedy. That made it memorable due to the miserable plot twists
I played my first time without any TH-cam guides, and after listening to the testimonies of both Ryan and Varley, Varley definitely seemed like the most guilty of them two, although none of them really convinced me. However, Varley did lie about being in one of the houses where the fires started, he's got the anarchist propaganda, and Ryan just doesn't seem like the guy to me. He's angry at one of the heater companies, so the most logic thing is that if he wanted revenge, he would do something to the heater companies, instead of innocent people right? I got two stars by charging Varley, and four stars by charging Ryan. I don't care what the game says, my gut still tells me that Ryan didn't do it
Both of them didn't do it. Regarding the choice - whenever there is a choice in the game, the captain (and the rating) will like it better if you charge a pedo/communist/anarchist then some random guy, so there's that.
Ryan had a personal motive against the company, a political motive, the training to do it and mosquito coils. The coil being his sealed the deal for him, as Varley’s only indictment is that he got kickbacks from suburban. The captain also loves it when the guy you arrest happens to be an anarchist, so if you’re split between the two, that’s an extra reason why to charge him. Also, Varley having an outstanding murder charge means not charging him will still have him face justice. So two birds with one stone in the eye of the police department. We know it’s neither of them at the end of the day, but I like to think Ryan was eventually gonna commit industrial sabotage. He had strong motive, opportunity and the tools to do so. Anyways it makes sense to me why you change him.
I mean, we later learn that neither of them did it. It was Ira Hogeboom, following the orders of Dr Fontaine. I don’t know how Ira learned to reverse the diaphragm on the heater though
That Welsh Guy anarchism is the hatred of the current government communism is wanting to have a government that shares more (it only works for the people in power)
Okay so hear me out- 1) Both the families won the travelling prize from Gulliver's travel 2) The owner of Gulliver's travel testified to Suburban redevelopment manipulating the prize. 3) One of the tampered valve was RECOVERED FROM THE SAWYER RESIDENCE, which Reginald repaired. 4) Reginald was on the payroll of Suburban redevelopment. But hey, let's charge the most obvious suspect.
Why is it tht whenever phelps completes a case his partner is almost always ignored by senior .......... i know phelps does all the heavy lifting but all his partners also deserved some appreciation
I wanted two more missions, as Jack. One a regular private eye case in which he gets a whiff of Roy Earle being really corrupt, and a final one where he catches Roy dirty and kills him, then frames Donnelly for it.
Same, although killing Earle feels too much like a revenge angle and it kinda doesn't make sense if you're playing Kelso, I'd say let him live and let the world crumble around him. Find evidence, connect them to Earle and pin it on him. See if he likes the same view as Phelps. Hell, put everyone that was on Monroe's payroll on the case too and it'll be the downfall of the LAPD's corruption side
Fun fact: The actor who voiced Walter Clemens in this video (LA Noire) is Vincent Kartheiser, who also played Ricky Cowen (based on Ricky Kasso) in 2000 film "Ricky 6".... 👍👍👍👍
This one was definitely the weirdest case yet. No real evidence to know who did it. I convicted Varley just because the coil was found in his locker (even if he says Ryan put it there) and intentional or not,he got a family murdered. But even then it's not really satisfying.
In this game I like all the front cases, arson is Sooo hard to find clues. hate the construction sites. I've missed playing this, the remaster with the Dlcs rock!
"Phelps,what you did to your wife and kids was un-American" "My wife threw me out-" "Did I ask for your opinion? You're here to listen to mine" "Well,did I ask for your opinion too?" He should've said that
I haven't played through the arson part of the game yet, so here is my theory: - the death of the Saywers is a result of an unfortunate coincidence. - we know Varley admittedly is paid off by Suburban to rig the regulators while the inhabitants of the house are away on their vacation - we also know that Ryan is resentful to Hephaestus (Now InstaHeat) for not only moral but also personal reasons - his family got killed in an avoidable accident for which the company should have been held accountable - Ryan knows how despite it's very dangerous design flaw, InstaHeat is still pouring the 70 model to the market out of mere greed. - Ryan is also familiar with affiliations of Varley - Ryan is disgusted of course but also sees it as an opportunity to finally draw attention to the shady dealings of InstaHeat - He uses the same method to burn down empty houses in order to raise the number of arson cases to finally draw the attention of the authorities - Ryan is also probably making sure that every house he burns is empty - due to his profession, Ryan can hang around houses without raising suspicioun, he can easily open the mail boxes and figure out who are the lucky ones who received correspondence from Gulliver's - since Varley is an inside men, he gets up to date information about the houses he has to burn while Ryan has to work with significantly less reliable intel - from the mail boxes Ryan can see which families were elected to travel, but there was no way for him to learn about the last minute cancellation of the Sawyers, while Varley probably was phoned by Suburban not to do anything, who of course were getting first hand information from the travel agency - Ryan unknowningly rigged the regulators and the Sawyers met their demise... I still charged Varley though.
There's also Ryan, the guy who helped francis in the army academy in malcom in the middle, the manager of instaheat, is jessie's dad in breaking bad and i know there's some more actors who appear in some more tv shows
I always wonder why they demoted Cole to Arson to ‘keep him out of the way’ when it came to him investigating police corruption. Why not put him back to a beat cop and wait until the hearing to fire him or not?
My thing is why fire him?! Why cause he cheated on his wife, he can't be worse than the guys he put in jail for there crimes, they have guys like Roy who is on the unit who does shady shit and literally hits women in front of people....like cheating can't be worse than murder or assault.....
@@evolutionmax9791 it's all a political narrative to justify getting him out of the way, it's not supposed to make sense for us. Also, he was cheating with a German woman right after WW2, Germans were pretty hated at that moment. This came to illustrate how hateful, moralist and hypocrite they were, again it's not supposed to make sense.
Patrol: Traffic: Homicide: Red Lipsticks Ad Vice: Morphine Arson: Instaheat Fire & Life (Jack Kelso): Surburban redevelopment fund Help me with the Patrol and Traffic please
Amazing storyline and detail. Especially for 2009. Rockstar always went above and beyond. Cole was a good man regardless. He cheated yes but he also cared about people.
The thing about those is... That the war experience changed him. The Sugar Loaf battle to the civilian cave. Phelps couldn't get over that lack of courage thing until Kelso said what he needed to get the detective to see things in different light. Had he been not a former soldier, I bet the LAPD would've pushed for a gas chamber for his 'crime'.
Poor Cole, R&I operator is just the only one that stills nice with him
Markos Dangerous biggs too later biggs is the only guy that isnt corrupt beside roy the chief mayor suborban red
It's like a researcher. those people deal with facts, not gossip stories.
Rusty is also still friendly to him in the last case over at Fontaines Surgery. Maybe it's because he has been through so many marriages already xD. He doesn't care lol
Don't forget Mal.
I dont think Mal likes Cole, but he forces himself to work with Cole to solve the cases.
I love how this case starts, Phelps is still depressed after her wife's divorce and when they get to the houses, they show how crude and horrifing Arson cases are going to get, even more from the homicide cases. And from all the colleages you got, Hershel is the most realist colleage from all of them as much as Mal is.
Yeah, Arson cases are pretty gritty. Not only are they terrifying, but they also show all kinds of ugly aspects of the men of high standing
I think Bekowski was probably the best.
@@LuchoCastle_11 i agree i liked Bukowsky
Mynrogue9 same but Hershel was good at the end,he was a marine to,and a good man
@@LuchoCastle_11 Bekowski and Bigs are the best partners.
When I played this level just recently, I responded to a street crime on the way to the crime scene. Biggs was a deadeye shot who put down three active shooters without a second thought. Then a few minutes later in the car he says "I never fired my weapon in the line of duty..." Barely 10 minutes before, he shot and killed three men!
pleasure and duty cross but mans gotta principles.
They should've made it so you can only start doing Street Crimes again in the second Arson case, but I guess that would've only given people who didn't have the DLC a smaller window to play the Arson Street Crimes.
"Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young."
Of course Herschel is going to be a crackshot: He is a veteran cop and fought in WW1.
Maybe he meant when he was in the core
He meant when he took part in WW1
“Sorry about the roust Clemens, you did the right thing.” I love Herschel.
Same.
Mhm. I'd torch the place too
Commander Beepo I agree. If some bitch did that to me I’d do the same thing.
@@tehsnipatres208 Same. No woman will cheat on me..
Xenthie Raiders that’s what you think
Fun fact: Matthew Ryan serviced Adrian Black's heater way back in "The Driver's Seat". You see "M. Ryan" on the receipt you find in the Black residence.
The M could be for any name that starts with M. Maybe it was once serviced by a Michael Ryan?
@@Agent1W Sure, except for the fact that Ivan Rasic provides you with an entire list of all of his installers, and there’s only one M. Ryan on the list. Additionally, the entire game takes place over the course of a single year, so it seems doubtful that there would be any other M. Ryans working there with such a short list of installers within the same year. It was clearly meant to be a foreshadowing reference that people playing through the game a second time would notice. So I feel that your assertion is not correct
@@cdf360 well said
@@Ry_An3146 I appreciate that. Something I forgot to mention as well is that Margaret Black informs you that their Instaheat system was installed only very recently, making it almost certain that Matthew Ryan is the man who installed their system
@@cdf360 I like how you did that. Thorough and clear.
17:14 just so you guys know, $50 in 1947 is the equivalent of $530 today
I noticed that, I wonder if it was a mistake or they intentionally took his monthly wage and donated it and he was fine with it
@@LuchoCastle_11 Should be obvious it was intentionally a high sum. You can tell by his surprised "Fifty???" reaction. He probably didn't donate this much money though.
¿Is 500 so much?
B.J. Blazkowicz Today it would be worth $578.
@@Metal9040 Wait, if your numbers ad B.J. Blazkowicz's are right considering the date of the comments, does that mean than in a ~ one year period the dollar suffered ~10% of inflaction? Isn't that too much for a allegedly steady currency?
Poor Herschel didn't get his lollipop
Or his stamp
He got another case. A bad one unfortunately.
Literally the only reason I referred to this video was that phrase of his.
When I was chasing Ryan, he got absolutely destroyed by a tram and flew through the fucking air. Sorry Rockstar, but he's fucking dead.
Glad to know KGPL still have our backs, being honest with us and checking whatever's necessary
2:45
Phelps: Let me open the door for you Biggs.
Biggs: I don't need doors.
Who needs doors this days? We have MAGIC.
Lmao!
Biggs: "I am the door."
Phelps: I have two suspects
Hopkins: Phelps you got nothing
😂
Paula Christopher To be fair, Cole committed adultery, which was frowned upon and illegal back then.
@@apimpnamedslickback5401 yes back then in a time where almost everbodys racist and the "forbidden fruit" was a thing. Theyre crazy
Cole's wife got nothing! Because she is nothing!
Yeah. In Arson Cole Phelps is treated like a jerk but fortunately not everybody is treating Cole like a jerk.
@@apimpnamedslickback5401 as much as I like cole, he deserved to be treated like shit cuz of how he treated his family.
Phelps: you know the way you can drive
Stefan: Fine where too.
WHAT?
That was Herschel. Though all partners would say that.
I dont get it?
@@icey8108 not that hard to understand use your brain buddy
Also it's biggs not Stefan your don't know to much about that game
@@thenicestpersonintheuniver3723 lmao calm down kid
I feel real bad for Cole Phelps at this point in the story, and the character that I grew to like most is the one that we never even see. The R&I operator is the only one that is nice to him anymore.
I can't condone what Phelps had done to his family. I'm same as Mal (10:05). I dont feel sorry for him as much as you gave him. I know I may get hounded for this but it is a brutally honest opinion from me. I mean, Phelps cheating for a woman who was formerly from an enemy country was in fact a more serious issue, even worse then the LAPD Vice scandal from a public point of view. If Phelps was really seeking atonement for the Sugar Loaf situation and the cheating by exposing the corrupt from within, that I respect.
He went and fucked the german again when his wife left him.
He doesn't have remorse on what others are going through
He just feels bad because he got caught
Typical guy who thinks war can be an excuse to pull any shit
@@hammerbro1947 What does her being German have to do with anything? That literally means nothing unless you’re being reactionary over the war
@@hammerbro1947 That Scottish captain is a POS, his whole personality is taking digs at other people but never himself. Discrimination against commies, dislike of Germans, covering up the Dahlia case.
@@CodPatrolSome people still had it against germans back then because of Hitler's actions and ideas most of people thought all germans were the same.
One of many things that I love about this game is that they pick actors with "old timey" faces, it really sells the authenticity of the era the game tries to capture.
I felt so bad for cole but I’m glad he got a good honest partner I love Herschel
Cole deserves no sympathy he was married and had kids and betrayed them hate roy all you want he warned cole not to do anything stupid that Cole and Courtney were the worst characters
@@kingsboro1 To be fair to Cole. The war changed him. Made him distant towards his wife. Elsa was the only person he could confide to with his experience. Not an excuse sure but it's not entirely black and white
@@kingsboro1 doesnt matter what he did, he saved lots of important cases
14:42 "I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass". Random Npc
LMFAO
I wonder how many such great lines we missed in rockstar games
I like how at 11:15 Biggs and the fire chief were trying to play it cool but Phelps just takes off
You know at least the department still let Cole keep his job.
Until the board hearing... :(
Lexus Driver felt weird not being able to finish my last case though
@@NyQuiiLx Because of Roy, that fucking scumbag. You look at the newspaper when you chase Cohens thugs from the diner in Manifest Destiny, it's shows Roy going into the Chiefs office and telling them about Cole and he wanted something in return. My guess is he wanted to be on Leland Munroes payroll because his name is in his book about three times in his vault when Jack Kelso breaks into his house
@@aaronkenyon7112 What the corrupt don't know is that they're stupid enough to have Phelps demoted to Arson.
@@hammerbro1947 I really wish how the court hearing went. Either pretty or not pretty
This case was the weirdest. We didn't even have any hard proof he was the killer.
But still is one of the best in my opinion.
Probably not hard proof, but Ryan seems to be "extremist". Also, he just keep lying a lot. If you have nothing to hide, why are you lying?
@@COZCATL True, sometimes Liars can be true culprits. Besides, Ryan gave the coils to Varley because of Ryan's excuse of using them for camping. I initially thought Varley, but that statement sealed Ryan's fate. That coil was the key evidence of locking Ryan in the cells due to the arson.
Actually, we the players know that neither Varley nor Ryan are the killers. In the opening cutscene you see the actual perpetrator. Not only does he drive a different car, you can easily tell that it is somebody else (different hair, body shape, clothes and all that)
The only reason why charging Varley is considered a fail, is that the McKelty hates anarchists and thus wants to see Ryan behind bars just for that reason alone.
@Jonathan Stone Because it didn't matter to them. Not only was the LAPD corrupt, but as they say in the beginning: Arson is the dead end job where you half ass your way through. And in general, as long as you present somebody as the perpetrator, that's fine, especially if he fits the agenda, like the guy being an anarchist.
This was already perfectly shown in the Homicide Desk: You charge Femway and everybody is happy that you put somebody behind bars. That is what matters. That he wasn't the murderer came out and he was quietly released, nobody cared.
Same in the Golden Butterfly: You put Eli Rooney behind bars, get a pat on the back for putting that pedophile out of public, even though the whole case was rather wonky to begin with.
Most of the cases in the game are based on real cases and the whole story of Phelps being framed and it being a cover up for a prostitution scandal and how corrupt the cops are is based on the real life prostitution and corruption scandals of the LAPD in the late 40's. They all were corrupt and didn't give a fuck who went behind bars or didn't. The rate of innocent people ending up in prison was quite high back then.
19:17 "We came as soon as we could"
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING??"
Hahah, what?
Phelps! Do you expect us to see a policeman dressed in suits come to a fire station?!
*Gets in driver's seat firmly*
Help me or stay out of my way!
.... Can you drive to this one?
"You were saying Phelps?"
Love MAD MEN actors in this game.
14:43 - "I would like to see things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass." lol
That took me hella off guard, i’m stealing that one for sure.
This case was the most difficult case I ever played in La noire
If you think about it. It's really Cole's fault that did this to himself. He wasn't force to cheat on his wife. So maybe like the game got harder at this part because its more of a punishment.
Ray Patrick
Maybe.
this is all of his plan? i guess??
Ray Patrick Sex wasn't involved.
@@MasterCrazyRJ I like Cole but you're right.
The way they talk and the voice really nails superman and batman on a mission
26:22 If I’m the operator and the dude spitting out names lightning fast like that imma drop everything and go home..
Could just ask to slow down 😂
Ah yes, Kenny Cosgrove and Stephens interrogate Peter Cambell to find out why he's burning down houses. This is by far the strangest episode of Mad Men yet.
This game makes me feel like everyone was abnormally angry in the mid 40s.
Ww2
PTSD, great depression, etc. They probably were
i love that despite his hot headed temper, Captain McKelty seems to be rather fair with Phelps and basically gave him his final chance because he knows that Phelps is (or was) the best case man in the game.
Don’t see why the writers suddenly seemed to turn their back on Cole. He had an affair for literally no reason, never mentioned anything about him being unhappy with his wife and daughters and kill him in the last mission. He picked the German girls life over watching his two daughters grow and it just seemed a cheap resolve for such a good game.
I felt like Cole was phony in some ways. Like he's noble, but kind of overdoes it to make up for his time during the war. During the flashback scene where he gets awarded with a silver star, he felt like he didn't deserve it, but accepted it anyway. When Cole met Johnny Stamponato and Mickey Cohen, Johnny mentioned that he heard of Phelps and his silver star. All Phelps said was, "something like that..."Roy (and to a lesser extent, Rusty) noticed the way Phelps acted during cases, even saying "i don't have the same voices in my head as you, Cole" when talking about his interaction with a person of interest.
Jack Kelso is pretty much the real version of what people thought Cole was during and after the war. The two are very similar (which is a theme brought up early in the game), but the flashbacks show how they're different.
True bad writing
His daughters would become weaker and useless anyway. Do you know where their place would be? In the night club. Yes, I'm serious.
Yeah it just feels like lazy writing
I was so mad when I first played the game, after the insanely good Homocide desk, the tone shift in Vice, the downhill into Arson desk… I hated where the story gets wonky and you start playing as Jack, but now in retrospect I realize they did that to put the “Noire” in L.A. Noire: a messy, imperfect story that ends in tragedy. That made it memorable due to the miserable plot twists
Every mission felt like it’s own movie well done Rockstar 👍👍👍
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If you follow the story, they are monopoly. They bought out every competition.
37:50 this is why Biggs is my favorite partner
I love them all but Bekovsky is my favorite
@@xenthieraiders8097 no, you don't love Roy
@@GiganticPyro Roy isn't Bekowsky LOL
I played my first time without any TH-cam guides, and after listening to the testimonies of both Ryan and Varley, Varley definitely seemed like the most guilty of them two, although none of them really convinced me. However, Varley did lie about being in one of the houses where the fires started, he's got the anarchist propaganda, and Ryan just doesn't seem like the guy to me. He's angry at one of the heater companies, so the most logic thing is that if he wanted revenge, he would do something to the heater companies, instead of innocent people right? I got two stars by charging Varley, and four stars by charging Ryan. I don't care what the game says, my gut still tells me that Ryan didn't do it
Same
Both men are bad so it best to charge ryan while Varley gets charge with the unrelated crime ryan is later released when a similar crime happens
Both of them didn't do it. Regarding the choice - whenever there is a choice in the game, the captain (and the rating) will like it better if you charge a pedo/communist/anarchist then some random guy, so there's that.
Ryan had a personal motive against the company, a political motive, the training to do it and mosquito coils. The coil being his sealed the deal for him, as Varley’s only indictment is that he got kickbacks from suburban.
The captain also loves it when the guy you arrest happens to be an anarchist, so if you’re split between the two, that’s an extra reason why to charge him. Also, Varley having an outstanding murder charge means not charging him will still have him face justice. So two birds with one stone in the eye of the police department.
We know it’s neither of them at the end of the day, but I like to think Ryan was eventually gonna commit industrial sabotage. He had strong motive, opportunity and the tools to do so. Anyways it makes sense to me why you change him.
I mean, we later learn that neither of them did it. It was Ira Hogeboom, following the orders of Dr Fontaine. I don’t know how Ira learned to reverse the diaphragm on the heater though
7:48 - That was nice of Cole.
I'm guessing he's feeling a lot of guilt
Is it just me or does it seem like an innocent man just got charged?
I was just about to look this up. He was a piece of shit commie tho so..
@@mr.peanutbutter6969 You do realise there's a difference between Communism and Anarchism right?
@@WELSHGAMER99 nope. Please explain in long winded paragraphs
That Welsh Guy anarchism is the hatred of the current government communism is wanting to have a government that shares more (it only works for the people in power)
@@thewhitewolf58 Not necessarily.
There is anarchic capitalism, 100% markets with freedom as principle and no intervention of the State.
Jordan Peele: What should I call this movie?
Someone: 2:07
Okay so hear me out-
1) Both the families won the travelling prize from Gulliver's travel
2) The owner of Gulliver's travel testified to Suburban redevelopment manipulating the prize.
3) One of the tampered valve was RECOVERED FROM THE SAWYER RESIDENCE, which Reginald repaired.
4) Reginald was on the payroll of Suburban redevelopment.
But hey, let's charge the most obvious suspect.
I think the police just wants us to lock away the anarchist
None of that proves anything.
Varley said all types of tradesmen get kickbacks from suburban. He had no serious or personal connection to suburban
9:10 good remaster bro x2
adigyran lol!
2:45
Why is it tht whenever phelps completes a case his partner is almost always ignored by senior .......... i know phelps does all the heavy lifting but all his partners also deserved some appreciation
I wanted two more missions, as Jack. One a regular private eye case in which he gets a whiff of Roy Earle being really corrupt, and a final one where he catches Roy dirty and kills him, then frames Donnelly for it.
I'm the only one who likes Roy anyway?
@@xenthieraiders8097 I dunno. Why are you asking me?
@@bbb462cid I ask everyone who will read this comment.
Same, although killing Earle feels too much like a revenge angle and it kinda doesn't make sense if you're playing Kelso, I'd say let him live and let the world crumble around him. Find evidence, connect them to Earle and pin it on him. See if he likes the same view as Phelps. Hell, put everyone that was on Monroe's payroll on the case too and it'll be the downfall of the LAPD's corruption side
@@xenthieraiders8097 You're not the only one, Roy's a bastard and I love him to death
Fun fact: The actor who voiced Walter Clemens in this video (LA Noire) is Vincent Kartheiser, who also played Ricky Cowen (based on Ricky Kasso) in 2000 film "Ricky 6".... 👍👍👍👍
9:10
Thumbs up for that quantum-tunneling hearse.
27:12 Young lady? She sounds about fifty years old!
Not really
Cyber Sparkle she does don’t lie
Nah the mics back then werent as good as they were now so she would totally sound different
Record you voice and put a 1940 telephone effect on it, you'll be amazed how differently you sound.
Lmao, what that pedestrian said at 14:43 I know it's an arson case but that was a sick burn
Even back in the 40s the roasts were brutal lol
Me: Can we have (Truth, Doubt, Lie) Mom: we have (Truth, Doubt, Lie) at home At Home: (Good Cop, Bad Cop, Accuse)
They replaces it because people got confused.
Good Cop = Truth
Bad Cop = Doubt
Accuse = Lie
Playing La Noire is like watching a movie
Never thought I could feel an awkward silence through a screen until I played this case
0:12 this was literally my first ASMR experience when I first played thus as a teen. Great game.
''Sorry about the roust, Clemens. You did the right thing''. 🤣
It took a minute or 2 but I realized Biggs was the guy talking to us at the start of the game narrating coles story
13:40 I like how Phelps got that question remark in as he leaves like a Skeletor meme.
Damn. I learned a ton about fires :D
Holly Now go start making some fires! :D
@@ItsYurVatoAlex calm down satan
I say we bust in there and find the god damn evidence.
Line of the year.
That bum took a swipe at me. Put him down with my sap.
Ken Cosgrove, Freddy Rumsen, Harry Crane and Pete Campbell. 4 Mad Men actors in one mission.
Biggs sounds like the guy talking at the beginning of the game
@Dan The Man Someone took a shit on your breakfast or something?
I think he is the guy who tries to beat the joker in dark knight post the interrogation scene
Cole looks like the guy on the loading screen
Oh so you noticed? He is also the voice of Joshua Graham from new vegas.
Petition for Biggs to get his lollipop 😔
30:57 Ken Cosgrove and Pete Campbell (Mad Men) talking in LA Noire
I kinda love how Cole Phelps suit is grey and black color and mostly symbolizes depression and despair
Herschels car is my favorite in the game. #HudsonFTW
I like the vice car better #CadillacFTW
i don’t know if this one counts, but Jack’s car is my personal favorite.
Roys car is the best, Stefans is my second favourite
It has the best handling out of all 4 which is handy.
Lucas 2000 so true
I’d really love a sequel to this game
What I want in the sequel.
1. Changing radio stations.
2. If it's in the 1950s, TV. And why not theaters.
3. Activities other than cases.
@@jaspermcminnis5538 it needs to be more interactive as a world, the random crimes were fun but needed more diversity and quantity.
True, like with some rpg mechanics
A setting in 1970s San Francisco with a Dirty Harry feel would be wonderful.
Phelps: He's going to kill those men!
(Ryan's van flipped over upside down) 😂😂
Three characters are from Mad Men
Would have been awesome if they got Jon Hamm (Don) and John Slattery (Roger) too.
36:31 Ron Burgundy: well... that escalated quickly
42:54 that smile
My guts says it's Varley. He's the most wanted guy.
Lynch: I DEAL IN FACTS PHELPS
Also Lynch: I have a theory but no evidence.
The fuck?
9:10 will nobody talk about the emerging car?
Thats how cars were made in the 40's
42:53 Phelps knew Varley was lyin’ 😂 Varleys face said it all
9:10 The coroner needed an extra minute to clock in... don’t mind it, Phelps.
34:14 "RUN ALL THE WAY FROM MICHIGAN, REGINALD?!" -Cole Phelps
This one was definitely the weirdest case yet. No real evidence to know who did it. I convicted Varley just because the coil was found in his locker (even if he says Ryan put it there) and intentional or not,he got a family murdered. But even then it's not really satisfying.
His name is even on the Sawyer family water heater's service log.
In this game I like all the front cases, arson is Sooo hard to find clues. hate the construction sites. I've missed playing this, the remaster with the Dlcs rock!
I love hard cases.
@@xenthieraiders8097 Me toooooo.
Poor Ryan, should've stayed in Alaska.
Life is unfaaaiirr (door slam)
is it just me, or is the whole Mad Men cast in L.A. Noire ?
That's because they used the same casting agency.
@@applescruff1969 But sadly, not the same ad agency.
9,000 dollars in the 40’s was probably 100,000 dollars omg,wished I lived in the fifties 😂
"Phelps,what you did to your wife and kids was un-American"
"My wife threw me out-"
"Did I ask for your opinion? You're here to listen to mine"
"Well,did I ask for your opinion too?"
He should've said that
He would get fired straight away XDD
His wife and kids did not deserve anything better.
Is that guy at the station ever going to move up to a 45? He says he's going to in like every part.
S P O I L E R S
Am I the only one who knew that it was Ira aka Mr. You Said The House Would Be Empty the second I saw the dead family in their home?
Lol, “Mr. You said the house would be empty”
I haven't played through the arson part of the game yet, so here is my theory:
- the death of the Saywers is a result of an unfortunate coincidence.
- we know Varley admittedly is paid off by Suburban to rig the regulators while the inhabitants of the house are away on their vacation
- we also know that Ryan is resentful to Hephaestus (Now InstaHeat) for not only moral but also personal reasons - his family got killed in an avoidable accident for which the company should have been held accountable
- Ryan knows how despite it's very dangerous design flaw, InstaHeat is still pouring the 70 model to the market out of mere greed.
- Ryan is also familiar with affiliations of Varley - Ryan is disgusted of course but also sees it as an opportunity to finally draw attention to the shady dealings of InstaHeat
- He uses the same method to burn down empty houses in order to raise the number of arson cases to finally draw the attention of the authorities
- Ryan is also probably making sure that every house he burns is empty
- due to his profession, Ryan can hang around houses without raising suspicioun, he can easily open the mail boxes and figure out who are the lucky ones who received correspondence from Gulliver's
- since Varley is an inside men, he gets up to date information about the houses he has to burn while Ryan has to work with significantly less reliable intel
- from the mail boxes Ryan can see which families were elected to travel, but there was no way for him to learn about the last minute cancellation of the Sawyers, while Varley probably was phoned by Suburban not to do anything, who of course were getting first hand information from the travel agency
- Ryan unknowningly rigged the regulators and the Sawyers met their demise...
I still charged Varley though.
So one’s gonna mention, Matthew Ryan’s actor is Eric on Malcolm in the Middle?
same goes for Albert - he played the father of Nikki (Malcolm's Season 4 gf)
I knew it! The guy that plays lynch is the same guy that plays Jury in sons of anarchy.
There's also Ryan, the guy who helped francis in the army academy in malcom in the middle, the manager of instaheat, is jessie's dad in breaking bad and i know there's some more actors who appear in some more tv shows
21:46 *walking*
some rando " WHAT THE HELL!!"
Just realized Matthew Ryan is Captain America in Generation Kill
If you notice that Matthew Ryan character is the same guy that played Scottie on jeepers creepers 2 😆
It´s really epic to see what Ken Cosgrove, Harry Crane and Pete Campbell would look like in the 40s.
That suburban thing sounded so shady that I charged Varley first time I played
You're a naughty boy aren't you Herbert? 😂
I always wonder why they demoted Cole to Arson to ‘keep him out of the way’ when it came to him investigating police corruption. Why not put him back to a beat cop and wait until the hearing to fire him or not?
My thing is why fire him?! Why cause he cheated on his wife, he can't be worse than the guys he put in jail for there crimes, they have guys like Roy who is on the unit who does shady shit and literally hits women in front of people....like cheating can't be worse than murder or assault.....
@@evolutionmax9791 Adultery was a crime back then.
He was still useful for the department in the beginning he was the golden boy then later his affair was used as a distraction
@@evolutionmax9791 it's all a political narrative to justify getting him out of the way, it's not supposed to make sense for us.
Also, he was cheating with a German woman right after WW2, Germans were pretty hated at that moment. This came to illustrate how hateful, moralist and hypocrite they were, again it's not supposed to make sense.
Patrol:
Traffic:
Homicide: Red Lipsticks
Ad Vice: Morphine
Arson: Instaheat
Fire & Life (Jack Kelso): Surburban redevelopment fund
Help me with the Patrol and Traffic please
Patrol Guns and Traffic i think Letters?
Stolen cars?
Guns and cars
It’s happening today in Los Angeles 2025
I feel like this case needed that one more question for Ryan Mathew to give you an idea of who you should choose to charge.
Amazing storyline and detail. Especially for 2009. Rockstar always went above and beyond. Cole was a good man regardless. He cheated yes but he also cared about people.
It was just crazy how he went straight back to the German junkies house when he got kicked out seemed like he didn't even care
@@bigt100 might as well at that point, tbh.
Poor Phelps, he's been suspended from his job,got divorced by his wife,got laughed by fellow LAPD but still,he's done his part for his country
Cyber Sparkle: He had it coming for cheating on his wife he basically messed up badly.
@@themuffinman4627 It's not even because of cheating, but because he slept with a german woman. It's post-WW2 America after all.
@@themuffinman4627 His wife is stupid and weak. She got what she deserved.
The thing about those is... That the war experience changed him. The Sugar Loaf battle to the civilian cave. Phelps couldn't get over that lack of courage thing until Kelso said what he needed to get the detective to see things in different light. Had he been not a former soldier, I bet the LAPD would've pushed for a gas chamber for his 'crime'.
Ever since I found out Biggs' actor was The Didact in Halo 4, I've been wondering how that game would've ended if Didact had a bowler hat and a .45
Phelps. Badge twelve forty seven 13:54
Phelps one two four seven 26:07
Why do you pinpoint every call under each la noire video? 😂
Love Coles face at 31:46 lol
Here again ryan didnt do it it was Varley tho. But neither of them did it
Every time I hear Herschel talk I expect him to call Cole 'Smoothskin'. All I hear is his male Ghoul voice from Fallout 4.
The actor who played the captain also played the doctor in Wandavision.