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You said that Loki died in Infinity War and then was reborn as a villain in Endgame. This is not true. The Loki Variant we know had not died yet. In fact, after the events of the 2012 Avengers, Loki had not turned good at all yet. The TVA was his first chance to change.
No. It wasn’t the first time that vampires were mentioned in a Marvel film. It was mentioned in Thor: Ragarnok film. One of the characters had a weapon that was good for killing vampires in that film.
Your jokes are getting old no offense. I have heard Muscle Man on Regular Show say it enough but he never over did it. Also alligator as a humans Mom what dimension are you from buddy.
I literally 🤣😭😂 every time you do the “that’s your mom” line! Please never stop doing those! I would LOVE a video someday that has all the mom lines as a compilation 🙏🙏🙏
Indeed. There is no way the TVA was looking for Sylvie for centuries and Rovanno can forget how it all started. She was being prideful and didn't want to talk about her mistake in the past.
@@nguyenquoctoan6354 well she did smirk before telling Sylvie she didn't remember. I took it as her enjoying the fact she was about to twist the knife and make her feel that she was insignificant instead of being the cause of so much hassle and headache.
Yup. Just basing with their age alone. Odin was 5000 years old. And the vikings era were at 700 AD up to 1016 AD Based on that, Odin age during viking era would be 3,680 - 3,996 And thor age would be 180 - 496. They were older than the viking era. More so Asgards culture is way older than odin himself
She's a variant because when she was playing with the toys, she wanted to SAVE Asgard, and when at the Time Keeper's HQ she was concerned about a prisoner in pain. Basically, she was a danger to the sacred timeline because she was a going to be a "good" Loki.
Nah. Even the young male Loki we saw in flashbacks in the other Thor movies wanted to save Asgard fighting side by side with Thor... it was his upbringing in Thors shadow from a neglectful Odin that turned him bitter. You're missing the big picture mate, the Timekeepers aren't real, there is no sacred timeline, the TVA is an illusion, that Loki called in the very first episode. She was to be pruned because she's a threat as a Loki, that's it.
@@Asbo13 it might be HIS "sacred" timeline, and by pruning all others he is making sure he has no competition from other Kangs. There's a lot of possibilities. I also noticed a Norse rune symbol that appears in the opening credits (one of the o's in Loki's name) is also the symbol behind the timekeepers, its meaning is that of inherited wealth, what one is owed, entitlement. I think its possible that a truly evil Loki is behind everything
@@SA80TAGE Being a hero plays a part here. I heavily suspect that Loki is destined to bring down whoever is behind the TVA, be that Kang or indeed as mentioned, an irredeemable Loki. The Nexus event on Lamentis was the Lokis realising they were meant for more than their predetermined path. That moment saw them both realise it, because they saw it in each other.
My wife and I were discussing after the episode last night and my wife thinks Sylvie’s nexus event was simply being normal. She was told she was adopted (potentially around the time she was taken) and she was fine with it. Unlike most other Lokis she wasn’t as chaotic in her timeline. Ironically them taking her sent her down that destructive path. Hopefully I explained that well enough.
Something I noticed: Mobius’ line “I’m supposed to trust the word of Two Lokis?” “How about the word of a friend?” is partially an homage to “I never thought I’d die alongside an Elf. “ “How about a friend?”
I wish people stop rushing to make love romantic. The first love we all usually experience, is the connection and admiration with our mentor/guardian. He grew up hating himself because he was saved out of pity originally. Later they were found love for him.
@@ccelite3782 no not really, it's really not that weird, people don't seem to understand that it's not like they're the same person, they're just variations of the same person, but they've lived different lives, it's more just like being with someone who has similar interests and personality as you
CC Elite I believe one of the show runners already explained that it’s not a romantic connection. Loki “loves” Sylvie because she’s made him see that he’s not alone-which was his biggest fear in life.
Has anyone else noticed that when Loki and Mobius re-enter the Time Theater, the Red portal door re-opens, and they're both out of breath. If they actually just came from the "Sif Loop", that portal should've already been open, and Loki shouldn't be out of breath. I think they went somewhere else to hatch a plan before they went back to the TVA. They both planned getting pruned!!
The collars didn't keep them from using their power. The collars were how the TVA can keep them in a time loop. It was explained in the first episode why their powers don't work in the TVA
Ryan has been saying that since the first Loki Easter Egg video and doesn't seem to be willing to give up on it even though it's been proven false from the start.
@@itsboyaknow Right, we don't know why magic doesn't work, but we do know it ISN'T the collars since they aren't strapping little collars to everything.
At the beginning Sylvie is playing like she’s a hero saving an innocent from evil. My guess is that’s why the TVA plucked her, she was good whereas our Loki was antagonistic toward Thor as a kid.
@@arkanpratama4211 that's a really good point. I think it would be such a powerfully tragic statement made by the show if the TVA eliminated her just for her gender. It would echo Sylvie saying "just because I was the Goddess of mischief" but the focus on her playing and her putting the Valkyries center stage tell me it is her interest in Valkyries and wanting to be heroic that was the variance. so agreeing with a higher up comment. Especially since the element they deleted after taking her were the toys and not the whole room. Then again eliminating the toys could just be eliminating her parents' memory of a child. Which if that's the case is interesting because it would imply they erased an element from her variant timeline instead of actually deleting her timeline. That's especially interesting since it would imply that there are multiple side timelines to the main one that the time keepers or their puppetmaster doesn't mind. This is confirmed earlier when Ramona (I believe) mentions to Loki that the Avengers playing with the timelines is totally ok and expected. Just interesting to think about as their machine shows a single timeline but the avengers and Sylvie's existance kind of disapprove their being only one timeline.
@@p_to I think that it's combination of both. Her being born as woman is one branch, but this branch make another cascade event, because when she's born as a girl, she doesn't need to compete with her older brother, Thor, and there's no need for frigga to teach her magic, and there's no jealousy between her and thor that she start to idolizing valkyrie and not being a proper loki.
Also, when Loki says, "it never stops" in the Time Keepers chamber, I don't think he's referring to a loop, but rather that the hunt for truth never stops because there are lies upon lies.
Thor said he loved the Valkyries as a child. Thor is meant to be the good one and Loki the chaotic one. Maybe Sylvie's nexus event was loving the Valkyries which sets her to grow up as the good sibling. Also, when Mobius said he belonged on a Jet Ski but was pruned mid-sentance was heartbreaking.
Would doing that put her Thor on path to becoming a villain? Assuming the Loki role in her timeline? I hope they reveal more of her timeline prior to that moment
I dunno about Loki having been "bad" before he was told his life had been...a lie. He seems to have been trusted by Thor and his friends, and they seemed surprised when he "went bad".
Loki keeps dying and stealing the tesseract. In Thor, he "dies" In The Avengers, he steals the Tesseract In Thor the dark world, he "dies" In Thor Ragnarok, he steals the Tesseract In Avengers infinity war, he dies In Avengers Endgame, he steals the Tesseract
@@jackwells8107 that is more likely a reference to Taika Waititi’s ‘what we do in the shadows’ a mockumentary about 3 vampire buddies in New Zealand. Taika directed ragnarok and also plays korg
They mention Vampires in Thor: Ragnarok when Korg asks Thor if he wants to use a three pronged spear. Korg says it would only be useful for fighting off three vampires that were huddled together.
that doesn't really count since thats just Taika referencing We Live in the Shadows. its more of a pop culture easter egg than a MCU plot hint/Easter Egg
crackpot theory: It's been miss minutes the whole time. Also, I think the fact that they "Prune" people was a hint that they don't actually die. Because when you prune a plant, you just cut some bits off so the actual plant can grow better. Those pieces of the plants aren't erased, just removed, and most likely end up in the trash. So when Loki got pruned, he was just moved to the trash, which was the very destroyed new york.
I feel like there isn’t a nexus event for Sylvie. I feel like whoever is in charge of the TVA saw that she would break everyone free and wanted to stop it
I like that, but isn't the theory is she wanted to be a Valkyrie? Who cares though, that is the fun part about theories, its all an idea until its proven.
I mean, essentially, that WOULD be a very big nexus event. My guess is in that moment, where she is playing with her toys, she decides she wants to be a hero instead of a villain. An agent of good vs an agent of chaos.
"I'm tired of this bullshit" expression on Richard E. Grant's face really punched me in my inner feelings. Plus I loved that subtle hint about Deobia Oparei's character, a Loki worthy of wielding Mjöllnir implies a timeline where Thor is the assole one of the two (plus, that hammer looked like it was straightly taken out from Ratchet and Clank)
Agreed. as much as I want more episodes I think less have helped this series a lot more with the story because of less filler episodes and F & TWS had too many rewrites to the point the story didn’t know where it wanted to go
Comments in every comments section of this show: "It's another Loki variant controlling everything" "It's Kang the Conqueror!" "It's Immortus!" Me, noticing the purple energy in the cannisters, and how everyone is being mind controlled: "They did tell us it was Agatha all along..." lmao
@@whoisbigsexy ‘this one isn’t really useful, unless your trying to kill 3 vampires who are all huddled together’ -or something of that denomination when talking about the triple Stake which was an option for the contenders to used as a weapon in the arena.
A man falling in love with himself is literally the origin of the word "narcissist." A man named Narcissus saw his reflection and thought he was the most beautiful person in the universe. The biggest difference is this story is Greek and Loki is Norse.
The version I remember was that Narcissus was a beautiful woman who loved to stare at her own reflection in the river and that one day she compared her own beauty to that of Hera and Hera arrived and made her into a flower, but I will be damned if I can find that anywhere now. So much for me disagreeing with you.
The poster said, “Verify THOROUGH deletion,” not “through deletion,” indicating people may survive the pruning, as we saw with Loki in the mid-credits scene. ✨
I also took it as another symbolic way of how they delete the TVA agents memories. Like “did you get rid of all their memories?” But obviously the TVA agents wouldn’t know that so they would just assume the poster meant getting rid of variants (even tho they are also variants).
It makes total sense that they go to another place and not die. The TVA uses the cutting a tree branch metaphor, and when you cut down that branch the branch doesn't just disappear, it falls to the ground, just like Loki falling into a post-apocalyptic New York.
I don't think it's a matter of them wanting lokis to be bad, but the fact that if one decided to be good, it would then create rather large ripples of change through the universe that would render their power inept.
do you guys not get it? The timekeepers were fake, the TVA isn't what it says it is... that means neither are their so called "nexus events".... the bigger picture has started to be revealed and you're still guessing what the tiny smudge in the corner is
@@SA80TAGE Wrong. There are still nexus events, but the sacred timeline is just the preferred timeline of the power in charge, and the nexus events threaten the timeline where they remain in power. Nexus events still happen, they just may not be as problematic as originally described.
I kinda hope we see her placed in a time where she's a teenager and joins The Young Avengers, paying homage to her comic book ties to The New Avengers because it's evident that we're going to see them in the MCU future
According to the Norse mythology, Loki cuts off Lady Syf's hair, the wife of Thor...then tasked two teams of dwarfs in a competition as to whom can make better gifts for the Aaesir. Leads to the creation of Mjolner, New hair for Lady Syf, and other gifts for the gods, but the trickster part of this is that to one of the teams, Loki offers his head as the prize. When the dwarfs who won with Mjolner, Lady Syf's hair, and a golden Boar who can run real fast...the dwarfs come to collect Loki's head....then Loki says that you can have my head, but damaging my neck was not part of the bargain ; so they instead sew Loki's lip shut instead so he can stop spewing lies. Lol.
I think the main villain is King Loki. He set up the TVA to preserve the timeline where he becomes ruler. I think the Kang stuff is a smokescreen like Mephisto in Wandavision. It also explains why he is so worried about pruning other Loki's, and why our main Loki saw through the facade the whole time.
@@bbminhtri what if that is what King Loki wants our Loki's to think though? They keep talking about "the superior Loki" too. Maybe King Loki is just ahead of the game so to speak
The timekeepers said that "You're a child of the Time-Keepers too, Sylvie." I think that it could mean that a LOKI is secretly the man behind the curtain for the timekeepers
See, I think she doesn't remember because Sylvie wasn't a variant to begin with. The way the scene played out they just showed up and Ravonna was like "there's our variant" and they left. She seemed so disinterested that I think she was just being lazy and called the first person they saw a Loki and took off with them, it just happened to be a young girl. I don't recall anyone specifically calling her Loki in that scene, it was Ravonna's word against hers, the real Loki variant would have been wiped out by the bomb. Who knows how many people Ravonna falsely brought in as variants just to make her job easier.
It’s highly likely Ravonna remembers what Sylvie’s nexus event is. But I think it it’s going to be something really messed up. In the first few episodes, when they took Loki back to Earth, it was at the moment of the red line nexus event, not before, so I think Sylvie was causing her nexus event when they came to her. And that’s what’s messed up about it. She was sitting playing happily. My theory is that if they didn’t trim her there and then, Sylvie would have continued to be a happy child, and not a jaded narcissistic Loki.
@@emerje0 I agree. They are very specific to keep Sylvie's origins shrouded in secret. If she was a Loki than her backstory should be fairly similar to MCU Loki. No need to be vague about it. This is why I still believe she is Enchantress. They literally say her powers are Enchantment.
@@emerje0 I think it's worse than that. Syvie isn't a variant at all, but she becomes one when she is abducted from her timeline and escapes to swear vengeance on the TVA. It's the TVA who caused the event. The Nexus event becomes detectible as "time in the TVA" approaches the point at which the abduction is going to occur, but it's their own action which causes the event, not anything Sylvie is or does.
Okay here’s my theory, there is not sacred timeline, there’s multiple, alternate timelines, however, that red line we see in the graphics that they don’t want any variants to get to, that actually is the point where other timelines can bridge and connect. Think about it.
bruh, i just typed almost the exact same thing then scrolled down and read this, i think this helps validate it for me knowing more than one person thought the same thing, and BTW you said it better than I did
That's what i thought so, too! In my thought, they intentionally released WandaVision first to introduce Wanda as a "Nexus being" and I think there's already a "Multiverse" or alternate, parallel Universe. It's just that we can't go there cuz there's no bridge and the TVA is stopping Variants to make a bridge that connects these Universes. BUT now that we have Wanda who can be a bridge between these universe. I'm also sure that Wanda will be a trouble to the entity that controls TVA. Its all connected to Wanda as a Nexus Being ans Dr. Strange as a protector of our realities.
Chaos is not a bad thing. It’s long past time to acknowledge… “You cannot go against nature/because when you do/go against nature/that’s part of nature too” Love & human error can be quite chaotic… If they decided to make genuine multiple Loki variants? Oh my, it would be all Loki ALL the way down (& up… fractally) Take that, time fascists!
I think Sylvie’s statement about chaos is interesting, particularly in light of the events in Endgame that lead to Loki’s escaping with the tesseract. That whole scene is definitely chaos at work. It also proves what Loki says about their losing but always surviving. In essence his escaping here undermines his death at Thanos’ hands. This is, after all, the same Loki, not a different version from another timeline. Had he not been captured by the TVA, he likely would have entered a new timeline (because he removed an infinity stone and wasn’t likely going to return it), but it’s still the same Loki ultimately escaping death once again.
Sylvie: "universe wants to break free manifesting chaos.." I guess that would be a direct reference to Wanda who uses chaos magic (she is supposed to be the nexus being now).. 🤔 like Agatha says this is chaos magic.
Dose this mean that Wanda and her brother , the twins of lokie and Sylvie . Sylvie put the children with a family on earth, hoping their powers won't manifest. To protect them further erase all memory of her and the children from loki's mind using the TVA to send Lokie back onto his original time line . I think i went a bit deep there 🤣🤣🤣
Oh. My. God. That would be so crazy. I love this. A person obsessed with power creates a giant ponzi scheme to ensure that he never loses power. That's why no one picks up on it except Lokis. It also explains why they need Loki to catch another Loki.
In the comics, Mobius is a clone ; so when Renslayer asked him where he wants to go....I believe it's a test to discard one clone and get a new clone of Mobius with erased memories. Mobius could be her best agent and this is her way of testing the waters for when it's time to get a new clone who will do their job as to Renslayer's requirements.
I feel confident that the magic is the same. Sylvie going into people's memories to talk to them reminds me of wanda going into Agathas memories in Salem
The "hour glass" *rune* in the back of the Time keepers might be the same rune like spell Agatha used in her basement when she brought Wanda down there. So that is probably why they couldn't use their magic
When Loki first came to the TVA there was that guy that fought and didn’t follow the rules. Got himself vaporized. Little girl Loki there was a guy that was fighting. I don’t think we see him get vaporized. But he was well on his way. I think this is a set up to make the variants less aggressive. Every actual variant gets a little display of power.
I think you're on to something there, those guys looked pretty similar, long black hair, stocky build. And we know the TVA/Timekeepers are all just smoke and mirrors now, Loki called it in episode one.
I also like that Mobius calls Loki a "cockroach" as the more of the Lokis they purge the more they show up. They are also survivors. I also think the universe is "caged" by the Timekeepers, or Kang, and the Lokis are trying to break it free.
10:10 that’s like M. Bison moment from the movie Chun li: “you don’t remember raiding my village and killing my father?” Bison: “I don’t remember, for you that’s the worst day of your life, for me that was Tuesday”
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Episode 2 : Sylvie sents numerous reset charges to multiple timelines creating caos in the TVA My mind : Is it gonna be super hard to solve the problem now ? TVA in Episode 4 : Nah... It's super easy , barely an inconvinience. Me : Solving messed up sacred timelines offscreen is tight !
I found that horrible, I wanted to see what was all that about, they've made a whole intense scene about that on episode 2 and then they just forgot that.
What I like most of all in our New Marvel Universe is that nothing is ever as it seems. The stories we as nerds know will always change. The Skrulls are a peaceful race in this universe while in the comics they are opposite of that. Same goes for so much more that we've seen and it's freaking awesome. I love it.
Her character has been made into an idiot by the writers. She let child Sylvie gank her maxi-pad lol. Then let her escape. Then let her kill scores of her agents. Then at the end of the episode, Sylvie kills the phony time keeper and ganks Renslayer’s weapon, again. The show runners must really *hate* this character or actress.
By the way why didn’t the director speak up and stop Waldron from naming the mobile time portal device, a temp pad. No woman listens to this without thinking one thing only.
Mobius' abrupt pruning was heart breaking, I'm glad/hopeful to see that Mobius gets the ending/jet ski he deserves. Also, this was one of the best episodes in any of the Disney+ series'. It was simply fantastic.
I want to thank you for not padding the runtime like the other 'Easter egg' video makers who seem to think these all have to be over 20 minutes. Theirs has just runtime-padding material. Yours gets right to it and yet says more than theirs. Well done!
You've taught me to appreciate text vs subject... And there's a brilliant moment during Mobius' interrogating when Loki tells him the truth about the TVA: the lighting, constantly moving in the room, "illuminates" Mobius, showing that there's a glimmer of hope and he buys it for just a second... Only to fade as he descends back into his induced tunnel vision.
One thing I noticed is the irony/foreshadowing from the TVA member in episode 1, warning Loki about the metal detector. He mentions how it melts robots from the inside out which prevents them from entering the TVA, but in reality the eventually revealed figure heads of the TVA, the one’s every member is “working for” end up being robots themselves.
That is a really good point. Does this imply that (a) Androids/A.I.s would immediately deduce the false nature of the TVA and (b) An Android/A.I. "variant" that can travel time/multiverses is probably THE most dangerous entity in ALL multiverses and the best time to eliminate it is before it learns about its own true nature.
@@Vastad Tbh I wasn’t personally trying to imply anything, I think it’s more situational irony on how the every day robot TVA members melt is the same make as their overlords and it won’t lead to anything. However, I do like both options a & b. They’re cool concepts to think about! If they were to happen I’d say option A is more likely.
only theory I have is.....Sylvie was innocent. she didnt mess with sacred timeline as a kid. The TVA wanted to have a Loki among their ranks just like all the variants. they scoop them up. My theory is maybe she was more powerful and maybe easier to control. but before they could erase her memory and make her the ultimate agent...she escaped. if she was a variant due to gender...she'd been taken as a baby. if its because in her mind she wanted to be a valkyrie......wouldnt it make sense when she makes the actual descion? though for all we know, she killed her whole family or thor or something before playing but we dont know
My theory: every "pruned" timeline becomes like a junk yard where time no longer flows. There's such a junkyard for every prime human on the sacred timeline, where EVERY variant of that prime individual, as well as their respective variant realities get thrown into these junkyards. At the end we see the Loki junkyard, where every Loki variant exists, as well as all of their variant realities just shoved together on top of one another (I think of the buildings in the background are different versions of the same building). So Mobius is in the "Mobius Variant junkyard" where every Mobius Variant now exists (I'm looking forward to seeing the shot of an army of Mobius' in the show).
Weird thought. The place where our pruned Loki ends up is actually a place in the Quantum Realm where not only pruned variants show up but also all the Reset areas go as well. Like that Avengers tower was sent there because it was a branch timeline of the battle of NY. And when they send the reset charges, all the stuff it takes away end is there. This could lead to a ton of resources for the Loki’s to create an uprise against the TVA. Thoughts?
Thats what I was thinking to. Also fits with the lokis telling our Variant Loki he will be in hel (or hell) if he does not follow them. Its kind of a limbo where everything goes. So maybe that New York was one in which the Avengers lost and it got destroyed but then pruned because the Avengers don't lose there.
Here’s a theory, and I’m just reaching here… I’m not saying that the red lines in the timekeepers chamber are runes or symbols even, but they brought to mind wandavision. What if the person behind all of this cast runes on the location the TVA is located? It would explain why magic doesn’t work within it. There is the infinity stones, but we never got to test that in wandavision. We were just introduced to witchcraft and runes. Perhaps it nullifies the stones as well. It could even be that their innate power is magical. If the TVA is located within the quantum realm then that would explain why time passes differently, but key word is “differently”, meaning it still passes but not like it does anywhere else. Antman was stuck in the quantum realm for 3 years, but I think he said it felt like 5 minutes. Correct me if I’m wrong but 1980 years would be 55 minutes…
Absolutely runes! R’s office is covered in cattywampus Dagaz (Breakthrough, Awakening, etc.) & the animatronic Oz throneroom is backed by a broken Othala (heirlooms, heritage, birthplace, etc) I’m certain we could have big ol’ fun deciphering Loki’s Laguz, Othala, Kenaz, & Isa. Though the Norse tradition says Kenaz (vision, illumination, kinship, etc) is exclusively Loki’s rune.
@@ruthbennett7563 I knew I wasn’t crazy for noticing runes amongst this series too. Falcons and winter soldier didn’t focus much on magic but these are about exploring the character so loki represents magic to some extent in the mcu
@@woods2424 you are correct! And with that said, 2000 years converts to 2000 hours, which is only 83.33 days… time definitely passes differently in the TVA. Also, my math was off in my last comment
I think Ramona says she doesn't remember Silvie's nexus event even because there wasn't one. I think they just randomly kidnap people to be their hunters and since the Lokis are so powerful, they wanted one on their side so kidnapped her as a child so they could raise and train her to be a hunter, to have a Loki on their side.
The actress playing Hunter B-15 is doing such an awesome job. I love her character because she has so much passion and that moment in the rain when she said, "I looked happy". It made me feel so sad for her.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate these videos. I know it is a ton of work! My wife and I have a ritual now where we watch the Disney+ show du jour and immediately watch your video afterward. Been doing it since Mando season 1 and it wouldn’t be as fun without your vids. We joke that we wish you were around back in the Lost days.
As a cellist I noticed right away when “The Swan” was playing. And just as a musician passing by, “SainT Sanz” (Saint-Saens) is pronounced “Saa Saws”. Thanks for the informative breakdowns! 🤗
Loki loves chaos yet he always wants to rule, so my theory is that the real timekeepers are Lokis that rule everything because extreme order starts to look a lot like extreme chaos. After all, people bursting out of portals and attacking people then setting off disinitgrating pulses all over time is kinda chaotic
100%! Kylo Ren and Rey’s team-up fight scene felt so similar to Loki and Sylvie’s! Also the end of the world scene felt just like Rogue One’s ending too.
what if they were created by capitain america, when he went for "clipping all the branches" and influenced someone that created a organization to prevent other Loki(s) from invading earth and set the rest of the problems that happened on the mcu afterwards.. this would also explain the old tech and the earth centrism in the culture of the TVA I guess
It is tricky in the MCU because Loki and Thor are depicted as being younger than our myths of them. That makes it hard to say for sure which came first.
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You said that Loki died in Infinity War and then was reborn as a villain in Endgame. This is not true. The Loki Variant we know had not died yet. In fact, after the events of the 2012 Avengers, Loki had not turned good at all yet. The TVA was his first chance to change.
No. It wasn’t the first time that vampires were mentioned in a Marvel film. It was mentioned in Thor: Ragarnok film. One of the characters had a weapon that was good for killing vampires in that film.
Your jokes are getting old no offense. I have heard Muscle Man on Regular Show say it enough but he never over did it. Also alligator as a humans Mom what dimension are you from buddy.
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I literally 🤣😭😂 every time you do the “that’s your mom” line! Please never stop doing those! I would LOVE a video someday that has all the mom lines as a compilation 🙏🙏🙏
Maybe since mobius was pruned he's with other variants of himself such as lightning McQueen.
LMAO
He could have been sentenced to the life as a sentient jet ski, but the gods made him a race car
Wow
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Crashing weddings and carving chuppahs
Telling her she doesn't remember her nexus event wasn't a clue or anything it was a cheap shot to make her insignificant
Exactly.
more downplaying how much trouble Ravonna has had out of pride. She doesn't like to think or talk about a kid running off with her tempad
Indeed. There is no way the TVA was looking for Sylvie for centuries and Rovanno can forget how it all started. She was being prideful and didn't want to talk about her mistake in the past.
@@nguyenquoctoan6354 well she did smirk before telling Sylvie she didn't remember. I took it as her enjoying the fact she was about to twist the knife and make her feel that she was insignificant instead of being the cause of so much hassle and headache.
If that just a cheap shot, thats really low
Asgard isn’t obsessed with Viking culture, Vikings adopted their culture off of Asgardian gods. This was pretty well detailed in Thor
Yup. Just basing with their age alone. Odin was 5000 years old. And the vikings era were at 700 AD up to 1016 AD
Based on that, Odin age during viking era would be 3,680 - 3,996
And thor age would be 180 - 496.
They were older than the viking era. More so Asgards culture is way older than odin himself
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Omg yes it irks me when SC get stuff like this wrong 😂
@@joeyformon6643 don't I just made the same comment I didn't realize you already had 🙂
Factual we saw Boar or whatever Odins Dad’s name is.
She's a variant because when she was playing with the toys, she wanted to SAVE Asgard, and when at the Time Keeper's HQ she was concerned about a prisoner in pain. Basically, she was a danger to the sacred timeline because she was a going to be a "good" Loki.
Maybe..
Nah. Even the young male Loki we saw in flashbacks in the other Thor movies wanted to save Asgard fighting side by side with Thor... it was his upbringing in Thors shadow from a neglectful Odin that turned him bitter. You're missing the big picture mate, the Timekeepers aren't real, there is no sacred timeline, the TVA is an illusion, that Loki called in the very first episode. She was to be pruned because she's a threat as a Loki, that's it.
@@SA80TAGE i think there is a sacred timeline but its controlled by kang but i agree that the tv is an illusion
@@Asbo13 it might be HIS "sacred" timeline, and by pruning all others he is making sure he has no competition from other Kangs. There's a lot of possibilities. I also noticed a Norse rune symbol that appears in the opening credits (one of the o's in Loki's name) is also the symbol behind the timekeepers, its meaning is that of inherited wealth, what one is owed, entitlement. I think its possible that a truly evil Loki is behind everything
@@SA80TAGE Being a hero plays a part here. I heavily suspect that Loki is destined to bring down whoever is behind the TVA, be that Kang or indeed as mentioned, an irredeemable Loki. The Nexus event on Lamentis was the Lokis realising they were meant for more than their predetermined path. That moment saw them both realise it, because they saw it in each other.
My wife and I were discussing after the episode last night and my wife thinks Sylvie’s nexus event was simply being normal. She was told she was adopted (potentially around the time she was taken) and she was fine with it. Unlike most other Lokis she wasn’t as chaotic in her timeline. Ironically them taking her sent her down that destructive path.
Hopefully I explained that well enough.
Mobius died to abruptly to just be gone forever. He is in his world riding a jet ski or he damn well better be by the end of this show !!
Wow.
Well, remember in the comics that Mobius is one of thousands/millions of clones. I bet a new Mobius will be back.
He’s still in some trailer footage that hasn’t appeared yet thankfully
The end credits clearly show he's not dead, given what happens to Loki.
He's been reset
Something I noticed: Mobius’ line “I’m supposed to trust the word of Two Lokis?” “How about the word of a friend?” is partially an homage to “I never thought I’d die alongside an Elf. “ “How about a friend?”
I'M SO GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THAT
Seems like Ryan needs to binge LOTR again 👀
@Nicholas to quote from Loki..."What did you expect!"
Finally someone else noticed it too!!!
I think it is a cool take, that Loki learns to love himself. For real. Not for what he tries to be, for what he is.
I wish people stop rushing to make love romantic. The first love we all usually experience, is the connection and admiration with our mentor/guardian. He grew up hating himself because he was saved out of pity originally. Later they were found love for him.
So... is this like incest or something??
@@ccelite3782 no not really, it's really not that weird, people don't seem to understand that it's not like they're the same person, they're just variations of the same person, but they've lived different lives, it's more just like being with someone who has similar interests and personality as you
CC Elite I believe one of the show runners already explained that it’s not a romantic connection. Loki “loves” Sylvie because she’s made him see that he’s not alone-which was his biggest fear in life.
@@Stain297 like soulmates
Fans : We need Spiderverse!
Marvel : I'll do you one better. Lokiverse.
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I’ll do you one better, why is Gamora?
Has anyone else noticed that when Loki and Mobius re-enter the Time Theater, the Red portal door re-opens, and they're both out of breath. If they actually just came from the "Sif Loop", that portal should've already been open, and Loki shouldn't be out of breath. I think they went somewhere else to hatch a plan before they went back to the TVA. They both planned getting pruned!!
The collars didn't keep them from using their power. The collars were how the TVA can keep them in a time loop. It was explained in the first episode why their powers don't work in the TVA
Ryan has been saying that since the first Loki Easter Egg video and doesn't seem to be willing to give up on it even though it's been proven false from the start.
@@emerje0 he must just not be reading comments
Well no it wasn't explained why. We were just told that magic doesn't work there. We still don't know why that is.
@@itsboyaknow lol was about to say the same thing. It was _never_ explained _why_ magic doesn't work, just that it doesn't.
@@itsboyaknow Right, we don't know why magic doesn't work, but we do know it ISN'T the collars since they aren't strapping little collars to everything.
At the beginning Sylvie is playing like she’s a hero saving an innocent from evil.
My guess is that’s why the TVA plucked her, she was good whereas our Loki was antagonistic toward Thor as a kid.
I thought it was because she was born as a woman tbh lmao. Since the flashback didn’t really show us why she was arrested
I think the TVA plucked her because she was idolizing the Valkyries. Maybe she was going to become one instead of being a typical Loki
@@Darkwolf523 i think if thats the reason TVA pluckes her, why didnt they took her while she was a baby ?
@@arkanpratama4211 that's a really good point. I think it would be such a powerfully tragic statement made by the show if the TVA eliminated her just for her gender. It would echo Sylvie saying "just because I was the Goddess of mischief" but the focus on her playing and her putting the Valkyries center stage tell me it is her interest in Valkyries and wanting to be heroic that was the variance. so agreeing with a higher up comment. Especially since the element they deleted after taking her were the toys and not the whole room. Then again eliminating the toys could just be eliminating her parents' memory of a child. Which if that's the case is interesting because it would imply they erased an element from her variant timeline instead of actually deleting her timeline. That's especially interesting since it would imply that there are multiple side timelines to the main one that the time keepers or their puppetmaster doesn't mind. This is confirmed earlier when Ramona (I believe) mentions to Loki that the Avengers playing with the timelines is totally ok and expected. Just interesting to think about as their machine shows a single timeline but the avengers and Sylvie's existance kind of disapprove their being only one timeline.
@@p_to I think that it's combination of both. Her being born as woman is one branch, but this branch make another cascade event, because when she's born as a girl, she doesn't need to compete with her older brother, Thor, and there's no need for frigga to teach her magic, and there's no jealousy between her and thor that she start to idolizing valkyrie and not being a proper loki.
Miss minutes is the real mastermind of the TVA I'm calling it, "it was Tara strong all along".
I agree
Bubbles and Raven have teamed up
Definitely Mephisto lol
I'd disagree. But if you're right mate, I will come back and declare you a god.
Oh my God I didn't even know that.
Also, when Loki says, "it never stops" in the Time Keepers chamber, I don't think he's referring to a loop, but rather that the hunt for truth never stops because there are lies upon lies.
Thor said he loved the Valkyries as a child. Thor is meant to be the good one and Loki the chaotic one. Maybe Sylvie's nexus event was loving the Valkyries which sets her to grow up as the good sibling.
Also, when Mobius said he belonged on a Jet Ski but was pruned mid-sentance was heartbreaking.
How has Loki not asked Sylvie about Thor?
Would doing that put her Thor on path to becoming a villain? Assuming the Loki role in her timeline? I hope they reveal more of her timeline prior to that moment
@@saboorheath7769 she has blonde hair like thor
@@DayZeroChannel not as a child tho. But I like that Suttle touch.
I dunno about Loki having been "bad" before he was told his life had been...a lie. He seems to have been trusted by Thor and his friends, and they seemed surprised when he "went bad".
Imagine loki is the embodiment of free will, loki who told humanity that free will is a sham
oh my god
He was under the control of Thanos then
@@corycesare8821 more like joss Whedon
Ain't that some shit? 😂
Its a good character arc.
Loki keeps dying and stealing the tesseract.
In Thor, he "dies"
In The Avengers, he steals the Tesseract
In Thor the dark world, he "dies"
In Thor Ragnarok, he steals the Tesseract
In Avengers infinity war, he dies
In Avengers Endgame, he steals the Tesseract
In Loki Episode 4 he dies
@@yeshwanthmuthyala3343 maybe, I couldn't tell based on the mid-credit scene whether he's dead or not
@@yeshwanthmuthyala3343 so, probably the tesseract will again be stolen and used to help them defeat whatever they end up defeating
@@yeshwanthmuthyala3343 and then he will die in Thor love and thunder or something after bringing mjlonir , and that will be the end of his character
@@yeshwanthmuthyala3343 In Thor 4:
The word 'vampire' was actually said in thor ragnorok.
Word??? No pun intended
Yes they have been name dropping it slowly slowly, cant wait for Blade
When Korg offered Thor the 'giant wooden fork', he pointed out it was 'really only good for fighting three vampires who were really close together.'
@@jackwells8107 that is more likely a reference to Taika Waititi’s ‘what we do in the shadows’ a mockumentary about 3 vampire buddies in New Zealand. Taika directed ragnarok and also plays korg
@@jaxon_oconnor Yes, I know - and yet it doesn't change the fact that it was a vampire reference in the MCU.
They mention Vampires in Thor: Ragnarok when Korg asks Thor if he wants to use a three pronged spear. Korg says it would only be useful for fighting off three vampires that were huddled together.
that doesn't really count since thats just Taika referencing We Live in the Shadows. its more of a pop culture easter egg than a MCU plot hint/Easter Egg
@@mvarez but it was still said...Ryan said it was never said.
read it in his voice lmaoooo
@@mvarez What We Do In the Shadows***
I’ve literally been waiting for this video since 8:00am lol
🤣 you and me both bro! Had to watch lesser crushes
Bruh same
I been waiting since 1:30
Me since 3:47am
8am? I was waiting at 12:45 in the morning hoping they didn’t have a life like me
I'm calling it now. The man behind the curtain is Casey. He is definitely pure evil. Why else does he not know what a fish is.
@Beyond Time News Casey is Mephisto confirmed
i laughed way too hard at this XD
Casey do be sus though😳
My theory is that Casey is actually a Pillboi variant who somehow Pillboied his way into cosmic trouble.
@@twoften Bortles!
crackpot theory: It's been miss minutes the whole time.
Also, I think the fact that they "Prune" people was a hint that they don't actually die. Because when you prune a plant, you just cut some bits off so the actual plant can grow better. Those pieces of the plants aren't erased, just removed, and most likely end up in the trash. So when Loki got pruned, he was just moved to the trash, which was the very destroyed new york.
but the pruned parts end up dying because they cant get nutrients
@@sewykik5004 but there are cases wherein the pruned branches grow to be separate plants. ;)
tl;dr: NY is trash
A theory I have is that Blade also got snapped.
And that the vampire population would be unchecked since the one to kill them was gone for 5 years.
@@derbaba5266 u got it man
I feel like there isn’t a nexus event for Sylvie. I feel like whoever is in charge of the TVA saw that she would break everyone free and wanted to stop it
I like that, but isn't the theory is she wanted to be a Valkyrie? Who cares though, that is the fun part about theories, its all an idea until its proven.
Like walking up/down the Penrose stairs. Stopping Sylvie actually kicked off the chain of events.
@@ssotkow
It could also go even further. Maybe whoever knows that kidnapping Sylvie will start everything and it’s part of the sacred timeline
But that's what a nexus event is. The line starts to move, indicating that they are breaking free from the Sacred Timeline.
I mean, essentially, that WOULD be a very big nexus event.
My guess is in that moment, where she is playing with her toys, she decides she wants to be a hero instead of a villain.
An agent of good vs an agent of chaos.
"I'm tired of this bullshit" expression on Richard E. Grant's face really punched me in my inner feelings.
Plus I loved that subtle hint about Deobia Oparei's character, a Loki worthy of wielding Mjöllnir implies a timeline where Thor is the assole one of the two (plus, that hammer looked like it was straightly taken out from Ratchet and Clank)
This is easily the best MCU show so far!
Agreed. as much as I want more episodes I think less have helped this series a lot more with the story because of less filler episodes and F & TWS had too many rewrites to the point the story didn’t know where it wanted to go
Honestly I wouldn’t down play all the previous shows so for me Marvel easily has the best TV series!
They should of done loki as a movie cause its so damm good
by far.
@@iamsadiq4343 I don’t think it would’ve been as in depth if it were a movie.
Comments in every comments section of this show:
"It's another Loki variant controlling everything"
"It's Kang the Conqueror!"
"It's Immortus!"
Me, noticing the purple energy in the cannisters, and how everyone is being mind controlled: "They did tell us it was Agatha all along..." lmao
Holy shit, that would be golden, lmaoooooo
I would totally lose my shit like for reals, man.
Where's the purple energy please?
Everyone: “Vampires are in the MCU cause Mobius said so!”
Korg in Thor Ragnarok: “What am I a joke to you?”
That part!
Well frankly because of his voice everyone took it as a joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@whoisbigsexy ‘this one isn’t really useful, unless your trying to kill 3 vampires who are all huddled together’ -or something of that denomination when talking about the triple Stake which was an option for the contenders to used as a weapon in the arena.
Well, I mean that line was kind of a gag on Taika's "What we Do in the Shadows."
Hmmm he kinda is
The nexus event was that Sylvia was good, she was playing a hero
Oh wow....that makes so much sense
That makes a lot of sense
Heroes dont add chaos to the line of time, they add more order so the tva had no issue with them
@@onxiaftw yes but Sylvia is meant to cause chaos but she wanted to be good
Wreck-It-Ralph approves.
A man falling in love with himself is literally the origin of the word "narcissist." A man named Narcissus saw his reflection and thought he was the most beautiful person in the universe.
The biggest difference is this story is Greek and Loki is Norse.
Can't wait for the nexus event where Odin meets Zeus
The version I remember was that Narcissus was a beautiful woman who loved to stare at her own reflection in the river and that one day she compared her own beauty to that of Hera and Hera arrived and made her into a flower, but I will be damned if I can find that anywhere now.
So much for me disagreeing with you.
I like the Rick Riordan Version. Narcissus was a man cursed by Nemesis cause he broke many girls heart. He died looking at himself.
Maybe it wasn't self "love", in the romantic sense, but self acceptance.
@@Jay-ate-a-bug You're a Variant!
The poster said, “Verify THOROUGH deletion,” not “through deletion,” indicating people may survive the pruning, as we saw with Loki in the mid-credits scene. ✨
🤔🤔 riight, I see, because there is a NON-thorough deletion, otherwise why the poster.
Totally read that wrong, thank you!
I also took it as another symbolic way of how they delete the TVA agents memories. Like “did you get rid of all their memories?” But obviously the TVA agents wouldn’t know that so they would just assume the poster meant getting rid of variants (even tho they are also variants).
Clever girl.
It makes total sense that they go to another place and not die. The TVA uses the cutting a tree branch metaphor, and when you cut down that branch the branch doesn't just disappear, it falls to the ground, just like Loki falling into a post-apocalyptic New York.
Best Loki explanations by far. I stay up Tuesday night so I can watch right at midnight
I think Slyvies nexus event is that she turned out to be a good guy and the TVA only wants Loki’s to be bad
I don't think it's a matter of them wanting lokis to be bad, but the fact that if one decided to be good, it would then create rather large ripples of change through the universe that would render their power inept.
do you guys not get it? The timekeepers were fake, the TVA isn't what it says it is... that means neither are their so called "nexus events".... the bigger picture has started to be revealed and you're still guessing what the tiny smudge in the corner is
@@SA80TAGE Wrong. There are still nexus events, but the sacred timeline is just the preferred timeline of the power in charge, and the nexus events threaten the timeline where they remain in power. Nexus events still happen, they just may not be as problematic as originally described.
@@terriblemaze YES. This.
Honestly my biggest wish for this season is that they don’t kill off Sylvie. I love her character too much.
I kinda hope we see her placed in a time where she's a teenager and joins The Young Avengers, paying homage to her comic book ties to The New Avengers because it's evident that we're going to see them in the MCU future
I sort of think she will get to go “home”
I think in tearing down the TVA they restore the multiverse and restore every pruned timeline
@@imperialthreat I don't like that. I want this Sylvie to be permanent part of MCU.
@Beyond Time News Sylvie meeting Valkyrie would be hilarious
According to the Norse mythology, Loki cuts off Lady Syf's hair, the wife of Thor...then tasked two teams of dwarfs in a competition as to whom can make better gifts for the Aaesir. Leads to the creation of Mjolner, New hair for Lady Syf, and other gifts for the gods, but the trickster part of this is that to one of the teams, Loki offers his head as the prize. When the dwarfs who won with Mjolner, Lady Syf's hair, and a golden Boar who can run real fast...the dwarfs come to collect Loki's head....then Loki says that you can have my head, but damaging my neck was not part of the bargain ; so they instead sew Loki's lip shut instead so he can stop spewing lies. Lol.
what about Baldr?
In Marvel's version of this mythology, it's also used to explain why Sif's hair is black instead of the blonde it's supposed to be!
I think the main villain is King Loki. He set up the TVA to preserve the timeline where he becomes ruler. I think the Kang stuff is a smokescreen like Mephisto in Wandavision. It also explains why he is so worried about pruning other Loki's, and why our main Loki saw through the facade the whole time.
It does not make sense. In the sacred timeline Loki died by the hand of Thanos.
@@bbminhtri what if that is what King Loki wants our Loki's to think though? They keep talking about "the superior Loki" too. Maybe King Loki is just ahead of the game so to speak
@@corycesare8821 Mayb king Loki won the battle of newyork ?
Nice theory, but would a god of chaos and mischief, create an agency against chaos? I personally don't think so.
@@patax144 to preserve the timeline where he finally rules all? I think so
The timekeepers said that "You're a child of the Time-Keepers too, Sylvie." I think that it could mean that a LOKI is secretly the man behind the curtain for the timekeepers
Yeah... thought so as well 😅
Honestly, I am one of those people who hadn't seen the mid-credits scene. So gold star for you.
No theories, just want to point out that Boastful Loki's hammer is made out of an engine piston and a bit of railroad rail. Deep.
Awesome catch! Also in that same scene Kid Loki's Komodo Dragon is his version of Fenris. I'm willing to bet he can grow massive like Fenris Wolf.
Or, Kid Loki’s Gator… “ Florida-Man Loki”!
Steel from reign of superman
It's kinda funny coz in the comics there's a loki wielding mjolnir
The handle strap was made out of duct tape. And could the hammer be made from a piece of i-beam from the Avengers tower?
I think Ravonna said “I don’t remember” as a dig at Sylvie. She actually knows but I agree with the fact it wasn’t because she was a woman.
See, I think she doesn't remember because Sylvie wasn't a variant to begin with. The way the scene played out they just showed up and Ravonna was like "there's our variant" and they left. She seemed so disinterested that I think she was just being lazy and called the first person they saw a Loki and took off with them, it just happened to be a young girl. I don't recall anyone specifically calling her Loki in that scene, it was Ravonna's word against hers, the real Loki variant would have been wiped out by the bomb. Who knows how many people Ravonna falsely brought in as variants just to make her job easier.
You just repeated what they said in the video
It’s highly likely Ravonna remembers what Sylvie’s nexus event is. But I think it it’s going to be something really messed up.
In the first few episodes, when they took Loki back to Earth, it was at the moment of the red line nexus event, not before, so I think Sylvie was causing her nexus event when they came to her. And that’s what’s messed up about it. She was sitting playing happily.
My theory is that if they didn’t trim her there and then, Sylvie would have continued to be a happy child, and not a jaded narcissistic Loki.
@@emerje0 I agree. They are very specific to keep Sylvie's origins shrouded in secret. If she was a Loki than her backstory should be fairly similar to MCU Loki. No need to be vague about it. This is why I still believe she is Enchantress. They literally say her powers are Enchantment.
@@emerje0 I think it's worse than that. Syvie isn't a variant at all, but she becomes one when she is abducted from her timeline and escapes to swear vengeance on the TVA. It's the TVA who caused the event. The Nexus event becomes detectible as "time in the TVA" approaches the point at which the abduction is going to occur, but it's their own action which causes the event, not anything Sylvie is or does.
Okay here’s my theory, there is not sacred timeline, there’s multiple, alternate timelines, however, that red line we see in the graphics that they don’t want any variants to get to, that actually is the point where other timelines can bridge and connect. Think about it.
MAKES SENSE!
bruh, i just typed almost the exact same thing then scrolled down and read this, i think this helps validate it for me knowing more than one person thought the same thing, and BTW you said it better than I did
Good theory!!
That's what i thought so, too! In my thought, they intentionally released WandaVision first to introduce Wanda as a "Nexus being" and I think there's already a "Multiverse" or alternate, parallel Universe. It's just that we can't go there cuz there's no bridge and the TVA is stopping Variants to make a bridge that connects these Universes. BUT now that we have Wanda who can be a bridge between these universe. I'm also sure that Wanda will be a trouble to the entity that controls TVA. Its all connected to Wanda as a Nexus Being ans Dr. Strange as a protector of our realities.
Chaos is not a bad thing. It’s long past time to acknowledge…
“You cannot go against nature/because when you do/go against nature/that’s part of nature too”
Love & human error can be quite chaotic…
If they decided to make genuine multiple Loki variants? Oh my, it would be all Loki ALL the way down (& up… fractally) Take that, time fascists!
I think Sylvie’s statement about chaos is interesting, particularly in light of the events in Endgame that lead to Loki’s escaping with the tesseract. That whole scene is definitely chaos at work. It also proves what Loki says about their losing but always surviving. In essence his escaping here undermines his death at Thanos’ hands. This is, after all, the same Loki, not a different version from another timeline. Had he not been captured by the TVA, he likely would have entered a new timeline (because he removed an infinity stone and wasn’t likely going to return it), but it’s still the same Loki ultimately escaping death once again.
Sylvie: "universe wants to break free manifesting chaos.." I guess that would be a direct reference to Wanda who uses chaos magic (she is supposed to be the nexus being now).. 🤔 like Agatha says this is chaos magic.
Could be Wanda is a child of two loki's hidden in time and destined to be an avatar of chaos?
Dose this mean that Wanda and her brother , the twins of lokie and Sylvie . Sylvie put the children with a family on earth, hoping their powers won't manifest.
To protect them further erase all memory of her and the children from loki's mind using the TVA to send Lokie back onto his original time line . I think i went a bit deep there 🤣🤣🤣
@@sarahjames2991 sounds reasonable to me
I think President Loki is behind all this "what did you expect?"
Oh. My. God.
That would be so crazy. I love this. A person obsessed with power creates a giant ponzi scheme to ensure that he never loses power. That's why no one picks up on it except Lokis. It also explains why they need Loki to catch another Loki.
I absolutely agree. Remember the original trailer "What did you expert?"
@@ashleewoods9205 Come on. What did you expect?
I think hes in the place were loki appeared
In the comics, Mobius is a clone ; so when Renslayer asked him where he wants to go....I believe it's a test to discard one clone and get a new clone of Mobius with erased memories. Mobius could be her best agent and this is her way of testing the waters for when it's time to get a new clone who will do their job as to Renslayer's requirements.
“Chaos magic Wanda” The world created pure chaos in the Scarlet Witch.
I feel confident that the magic is the same. Sylvie going into people's memories to talk to them reminds me of wanda going into Agathas memories in Salem
Hydra created pure chaos in the Scarlet Witch**
The "hour glass" *rune* in the back of the Time keepers might be the same rune like spell Agatha used in her basement when she brought Wanda down there. So that is probably why they couldn't use their magic
When Loki first came to the TVA there was that guy that fought and didn’t follow the rules. Got himself vaporized. Little girl Loki there was a guy that was fighting. I don’t think we see him get vaporized. But he was well on his way. I think this is a set up to make the variants less aggressive. Every actual variant gets a little display of power.
I think you're on to something there, those guys looked pretty similar, long black hair, stocky build. And we know the TVA/Timekeepers are all just smoke and mirrors now, Loki called it in episode one.
I also like that Mobius calls Loki a "cockroach" as the more of the Lokis they purge the more they show up. They are also survivors.
I also think the universe is "caged" by the Timekeepers, or Kang, and the Lokis are trying to break it free.
10:10 that’s like M. Bison moment from the movie
Chun li: “you don’t remember raiding my village and killing my father?”
Bison: “I don’t remember, for you that’s the worst day of your life, for me that was Tuesday”
Thats evil af
Been waiting for this the whole day, crazy episode
Ikr! Me too 😓
Me toooo
Same!
Same
Same here!!
It's like Doctor Who and the Matrix got together and had a baby named Loki.
Screen crush breakdowns r always my fav, most detailed and best insight. Always gotta wait a lot longer than the other channels, but well worth the wait 👍
Episode 2 : Sylvie sents numerous reset charges to multiple timelines creating caos in the TVA
My mind : Is it gonna be super hard to solve the problem now ?
TVA in Episode 4 : Nah... It's super easy , barely an inconvinience.
Me : Solving messed up sacred timelines offscreen is tight !
I UNDER STOOD THAT REFERENCE
@@krishkabob9847 Ditto.
I found that horrible, I wanted to see what was all that about, they've made a whole intense scene about that on episode 2 and then they just forgot that.
Pitch Meeting! 👍🏻
@@GabrielSouza-ie1tt Fixing the timeline was intense! The epic battles! The amazing visuals! Too bad it all happened elsewhere off screen.
What I like most of all in our New Marvel Universe is that nothing is ever as it seems.
The stories we as nerds know will always change.
The Skrulls are a peaceful race in this universe while in the comics they are opposite of that. Same goes for so much more that we've seen and it's freaking awesome. I love it.
I hate the skrulls in the MCU, captain marvel ruined so many things man 🤦🏻♂️ and not because she’s a female lead
but that will change, lol. Because what will the Secret Invasion be filmed
Ravonna said she doesn't remember to kinda say "you don't matter" to Syilvie. She probably does know what it was.
Yep, thought the same thing...
She smirked right before saying she didn’t remember. I think she knows 👎🏼
she definitely knows
Her character has been made into an idiot by the writers.
She let child Sylvie gank her maxi-pad lol. Then let her escape.
Then let her kill scores of her agents.
Then at the end of the episode, Sylvie kills the phony time keeper and ganks Renslayer’s weapon, again.
The show runners must really *hate* this character or actress.
By the way why didn’t the director speak up and stop Waldron from naming the mobile time portal device, a temp pad. No woman listens to this without thinking one thing only.
Mobius' abrupt pruning was heart breaking, I'm glad/hopeful to see that Mobius gets the ending/jet ski he deserves.
Also, this was one of the best episodes in any of the Disney+ series'. It was simply fantastic.
I want to thank you for not padding the runtime like the other 'Easter egg' video makers who seem to think these all have to be over 20 minutes. Theirs has just runtime-padding material. Yours gets right to it and yet says more than theirs. Well done!
Vikings clearly got their culture from Asgardians, not the other way around.
It's all connected...
At last someone with a brain.
When he said it the other way around I was like huh ?
Speaking Shakespearian English as well, 600 years before Shakespeare was born.
And don't forget Loki was caught in that Dr. Strange loop when him and Thor were at the sanctuary
I HAVE BEEN FALLING FOR 30 MINUTES
Loki to Sylvie : " we may lose, sometimes painfully... but we never die...we survive".
You've taught me to appreciate text vs subject... And there's a brilliant moment during Mobius' interrogating when Loki tells him the truth about the TVA: the lighting, constantly moving in the room, "illuminates" Mobius, showing that there's a glimmer of hope and he buys it for just a second... Only to fade as he descends back into his induced tunnel vision.
What i want from mobius - he meets all his previous iterations, they stare at each other and give us a "wow!"
One thing I noticed is the irony/foreshadowing from the TVA member in episode 1, warning Loki about the metal detector. He mentions how it melts robots from the inside out which prevents them from entering the TVA, but in reality the eventually revealed figure heads of the TVA, the one’s every member is “working for” end up being robots themselves.
That is a really good point. Does this imply that (a) Androids/A.I.s would immediately deduce the false nature of the TVA and (b) An Android/A.I. "variant" that can travel time/multiverses is probably THE most dangerous entity in ALL multiverses and the best time to eliminate it is before it learns about its own true nature.
@@Vastad Tbh I wasn’t personally trying to imply anything, I think it’s more situational irony on how the every day robot TVA members melt is the same make as their overlords and it won’t lead to anything. However, I do like both options a & b. They’re cool concepts to think about! If they were to happen I’d say option A is more likely.
Vampires were mentioned Ragnarok though, before Blade was even announced.
only theory I have is.....Sylvie was innocent. she didnt mess with sacred timeline as a kid. The TVA wanted to have a Loki among their ranks just like all the variants. they scoop them up. My theory is maybe she was more powerful and maybe easier to control.
but before they could erase her memory and make her the ultimate agent...she escaped. if she was a variant due to gender...she'd been taken as a baby. if its because in her mind she wanted to be a valkyrie......wouldnt it make sense when she makes the actual descion?
though for all we know, she killed her whole family or thor or something before playing but we dont know
I suspect the "trial" is them making the decision whether the variant is useful to be memory wiped or pruned.
@John F. Walker ok
@John F. Walker ok
They take all helpful variants and turn them into agents. If they're not helpful, or can't follow basic directions, they're pruned.
Better than my theory. Literally thought it was because she was born a woman.
“The only thing that makes sense is that nothing makes sense.”
Actually Korg mentioned vampires first In Ragnorok when talking about using the 3 prong fork
Casey's the one behind it all, he is Kang. It's actually k.c. but they didn't want to make it obvious.
lmao YES
Oooh
Bruh idk why but I'm rooting for this lol
When this video appears less than 5 minutes after you finish the episode!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
What do you think is going on with the variants at the end?
I can cookie
I think there is a second timeline, where every variant goes to, is like a trash timeline where they send everything they delete
I think when variants are pruned they’re just sent to an apocalypse so they can’t do anything to the timeline
Gator loki
I like the theory that mid credit dimension is actually Kang's Chronopolis but instead of a city of Kangs it's his collection of different variants
You guys think that maybe like the movie “The One” there’s one Loki who is banishing other Lokis out of the timeline to become Supreme Loki?
That reminds me of a rock and morty episode
My theory: every "pruned" timeline becomes like a junk yard where time no longer flows. There's such a junkyard for every prime human on the sacred timeline, where EVERY variant of that prime individual, as well as their respective variant realities get thrown into these junkyards. At the end we see the Loki junkyard, where every Loki variant exists, as well as all of their variant realities just shoved together on top of one another (I think of the buildings in the background are different versions of the same building). So Mobius is in the "Mobius Variant junkyard" where every Mobius Variant now exists (I'm looking forward to seeing the shot of an army of Mobius' in the show).
Weird thought. The place where our pruned Loki ends up is actually a place in the Quantum Realm where not only pruned variants show up but also all the Reset areas go as well. Like that Avengers tower was sent there because it was a branch timeline of the battle of NY. And when they send the reset charges, all the stuff it takes away end is there. This could lead to a ton of resources for the Loki’s to create an uprise against the TVA. Thoughts?
That would be nice
Thats what I was thinking to. Also fits with the lokis telling our Variant Loki he will be in hel (or hell) if he does not follow them. Its kind of a limbo where everything goes. So maybe that New York was one in which the Avengers lost and it got destroyed but then pruned because the Avengers don't lose there.
Interesting. Also that mid season trailer that had the ship drop out of the sky. XD
A-Team style
Oh that makes sense.
Here’s a theory, and I’m just reaching here… I’m not saying that the red lines in the timekeepers chamber are runes or symbols even, but they brought to mind wandavision. What if the person behind all of this cast runes on the location the TVA is located? It would explain why magic doesn’t work within it. There is the infinity stones, but we never got to test that in wandavision. We were just introduced to witchcraft and runes. Perhaps it nullifies the stones as well. It could even be that their innate power is magical. If the TVA is located within the quantum realm then that would explain why time passes differently, but key word is “differently”, meaning it still passes but not like it does anywhere else. Antman was stuck in the quantum realm for 3 years, but I think he said it felt like 5 minutes. Correct me if I’m wrong but 1980 years would be 55 minutes…
Absolutely runes! R’s office is covered in cattywampus Dagaz (Breakthrough, Awakening, etc.) & the animatronic Oz throneroom is backed by a broken Othala (heirlooms, heritage, birthplace, etc)
I’m certain we could have big ol’ fun deciphering Loki’s Laguz, Othala, Kenaz, & Isa. Though the Norse tradition says Kenaz (vision, illumination, kinship, etc) is exclusively Loki’s rune.
@@ruthbennett7563 I knew I wasn’t crazy for noticing runes amongst this series too. Falcons and winter soldier didn’t focus much on magic but these are about exploring the character so loki represents magic to some extent in the mcu
antman was in the quantum realm for 5 years and said it felt like 5 hours, i think
@@woods2424 you are correct! And with that said, 2000 years converts to 2000 hours, which is only 83.33 days… time definitely passes differently in the TVA. Also, my math was off in my last comment
The actress that played young slyvie also played young rey in the force awaken.
I think Ramona says she doesn't remember Silvie's nexus event even because there wasn't one. I think they just randomly kidnap people to be their hunters and since the Lokis are so powerful, they wanted one on their side so kidnapped her as a child so they could raise and train her to be a hunter, to have a Loki on their side.
0:32 Fun fact, the dragon is from Dungeons&Dragons
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At 6pm ?🤨🧐 ARE YOU SERIOUS RYAN ?? That’s 12+ hrs of me making Loki conspiracies
Thank you for calling Thanos' brother Eros and not Starfox, my mind always goes to Nintento.
The rain with Hunter could be a reference to Blade Runner
I had that thought too
The actress playing Hunter B-15 is doing such an awesome job. I love her character because she has so much passion and that moment in the rain when she said, "I looked happy". It made me feel so sad for her.
It’s Ramona, she is the only one with high enough power, she meets the time keepers alot
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate these videos. I know it is a ton of work!
My wife and I have a ritual now where we watch the Disney+ show du jour and immediately watch your video afterward. Been doing it since Mando season 1 and it wouldn’t be as fun without your vids. We joke that we wish you were around back in the Lost days.
I'm calling it now: The true person behind the TVA is another Loki variant.
I thought it would be the Loki from the sacred timeline as a way of finding other powerful Loki’s to team up
You just copied my comment basically
Then how did this variant came up with the tva and call himself a variant and know about the different timelines? It's too much hahaha
@@luluu1017 Just a prediction, I'm not the writer of the show
@@corycesare8821 I suppose I would have if I had seen it.
As a cellist I noticed right away when “The Swan” was playing. And just as a musician passing by, “SainT Sanz” (Saint-Saens) is pronounced “Saa Saws”. Thanks for the informative breakdowns! 🤗
I think vampires were also mentioned in thor ragnarok by korg. So beings in the mcu know they have existed for a while now.
Loki loves chaos yet he always wants to rule, so my theory is that the real timekeepers are Lokis that rule everything because extreme order starts to look a lot like extreme chaos. After all, people bursting out of portals and attacking people then setting off disinitgrating pulses all over time is kinda chaotic
Who else didn’t wait for the mid end credit like an idiot and went back and watched it
Learnt from Wanda Vision that after some episodes you will start getting mid/end credit scenes. so checking after every episode.
Anyone get Snoke (Last Jedi) vibes when sylvie killed the head timekeeper?
True. I haven't seen anyone else notice that.
Nah, I got more of a Calus vibe from Destiny 2’s Leviathan raid.
100%!
Kylo Ren and Rey’s team-up fight scene felt so similar to Loki and Sylvie’s! Also the end of the world scene felt just like Rogue One’s ending too.
Really more “Oz, the great & powerful”…
I’m thinking this is a narrative call to slay our false ideologies.
what if they were created by capitain america, when he went for "clipping all the branches" and influenced someone that created a organization to prevent other Loki(s) from invading earth and set the rest of the problems that happened on the mcu afterwards..
this would also explain the old tech and the earth centrism in the culture of the TVA I guess
It's a damn good theory
I think Tony Stark started the TVA in 2988, the year we see on the time travel computer in Endgame.
When Loki woke up in the apocalypse world I immediately thought about the Doctor Who episode Bad Wolf where people are teleported to a Dalek ship.
Not me actually pausing at 2:20 to watch the mid-credit scene I didn't know existed
I have seen thousands of explanations from different creators They don't even explain it this good. Thanks for the video Ryan
Loki : I a sure you brother the sun will shine up on us again
Loki gets his own series
Thor gets a 4th movie
🎶See ya later, Loki•gator🎶
🎶After while, Loki•dile 🎶
*Lokadile
Boo
Viking culture came from the Asgardians, not the other way around.
Exactly what I was thinking
@Tom Mccarthy Honestly not sure what he was thinking
It is tricky in the MCU because Loki and Thor are depicted as being younger than our myths of them. That makes it hard to say for sure which came first.
I love the moments when we get to see Doug. More Doug please.
"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday."
The post credit was like : welcome to the loki verse.