The Michael Eure Show - Tri-Racial Identity of Tuscarora & Other Native Americans (12/17/20)
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- In this episode, Michael interviews Dr. Arwin Smallwood, Professor and Chair, North Carolina Agricultural & Technical State University Department of History and Political Science and Carter G. Woodson Distinguished Lecturer for the Association for the Study of African American Life & History. Dr. Smallwood will discuss the Tri-Racial Identity of Tuscarora, Meherrin, Melungeon, and other Native Americans in North Carolina, Virginia and East to West during the Michael Eure Show, 12 - 12:30 p.m., Thursday, December 17th.
I think he left a lot of vital information out. Those being hung or burned at stake are those that refused to convert into Christianity.
No these populations were already Christian from the swarthy Huegenots that settled in the Carolinas
My family is from springhill north Carolina on my my mothers side, my father side is south Carolina, and I was adopted taken from my mother by the NYC bureau of child welfare. They did everything in their power to keep me from finding the truth of who I am and now my whole family who I found on my own without their help are conscious to who we are.
These are my people. We are the Meherrin, Potecasi, Tuscarora, Nansemond, Chowanoke, and Nottoway American tribes of Virginia.My gggg grandfather was 100 % Meherrin Indian. My ggg grandmother was born 1824 she lived to be 103.
Wow what a video. I’m from
Tarboro Nc grew up on every example of living you described as my oral history is of Tuscarora and meherrin on my mother side and Tuscarora on my fathers. I cried seeing my childhood on your presentation as many people think of you aren’t Cherokee you aren’t Indian. My family are the archer, wiggins and pippens of edgecombe county Wilson county and Newport News va. Excellent presentation!!!
My family is Wiggins also they migrated to Alabama living in Powhatan territory along the Tennessee river.
Osiyo Halito *Eagle Stream* I am Aniyunwiya(Cherokee) and Ogeechee(Yuchi) by blood on both sides of my family from the Mississippi, Arkansas and Memphis, Tennessee. Great presentation and I'm both your video information to my communities on Facebook for edification, you're much appreciated.
Yakoke wado
I’m a old white guy and I remember as a small child my “part Cherokee great grandfather” saying his family was slaves, indigenous servants. Now I know
Thanks to Mr. Eure and Dr. Smallwood for presenting this topic and history to me. I am an older traditionally educated Californian, and all of this history was entirely new to me. My mother's family was from central and western NC, but I had never heard any of this history. It is interesting how tightly all of this ties in with the perspective of American education on 'the Lost Cause,' slavery, and how "America" wrested the country away from the previous inhabitants. Particular thanks to Dr. Smallwood for his clear, precise and extremely well organized presentation.
I agree and moreover I was alredy suspicious about the way thies folkmurder has been hidden in playn sight in the simpflied version served to us until nohw ... both for good and for worse. We, the people need to know more abpouta it in order to claim justice.
With all due respect to Dr. Smallwood, but how could you leave out Verrazzano's reconnaissance voyage in 1524 for the French crown along the same coastal regions. In his report he described Aborigines being phenotypically as black as Ethiopians. Dr. Smallwood has constructed a narrative that to have dark skin, the so-called Indians had to been mixed with Africans, which is not true. Dr. Jack Forbes' research documents the distinction as recorded in colonial records between negros da guine (Africans) and negros da terra (Americans). Negros da terra are the American Aborigines. I am Aboriginal American and was raised on this fact long before citing Dr. Forbes in my undergraduate thesis arguing Aboriginal American sovereignty. The Mother culture of North America referred to as Olmec, were described
Thank you BLK jezus
Yes most of the black people in America come from our aboriginal ancestors who were put into slavery in our own land not so much coming from Africa.
His story
PREACH THE MESSAGE FAMILY....SAY IT LOUD!!!!!
Fantastic information! Thank you for this! My family descends from the tri-racial melungeons of Person Co, NC & Halifax Co, VA. Family surnames are Epps, Martin, Shepherd, Stewart/Stuart & Coleman.
Many of us that have lived Tuscarora all our life know most if not all of this yet it is good information for this that have not been evolved in the battles politically of our Tuscarora here in what is now called North Carolina , we have seen these images in person or by oral history,
I loved it I learned more about the Spanish in North Carolina and their black
Conquistadors. The 300 Black raiders who worked for the British is new to me Thank you
Those "Black Raiders" might've been so-called "Moors/Muslims". 😐
As a matter of fact I have called Muslims, Turks and European
It illustrates how they took indigenous Ame'Rican (Negro) Indians captured back to Spain... Look for the book in Google books
@@michaelm.c.hampton1157 They took them 2 Africa 2(Tunisia). They must not have survived. Can't find anything on them. But Natives (CT. Pequots) enslaved & shipped 2 the Bahamas & other Carribean islands have descendants.
@@michaelm.c.hampton1157 reference The Negro Question parts 1-7 and Kurimeo Ahua videos too for accurate descriptions of the true indigenous people and Europe with viable contemporary sources.
Excellent lecture! Just finding out about some family roots so we are trying to put it all together. Thanks.
thank you for making these videos! i feel too many people forget these things when we should know our heritage our cultures and how they have shaped our current world it would be shameful to forget them or leave them out of history/education. i was born in VA grew up in (wv) Appalachia, and also lived in central NC it means a lot to hear these familiar names and their culture i feel in Appalachia we had many years of sub cultures people don't understand. many of my family were german indentured servants with long year's of servitude my family early on for Isham Randolph as cobblers
Great information
muttao, Melungeon are not words of our native /Indigenous people , made up as slang after forced mixing of races,
We never called ourselves mulatto. That was a term designated on paper to individuals that did not exactly look "white or black". This term was often applied to people who were fair skinned, but did not look purely white or light brown skinned people who did not look purely black. This term goes back to New Spain in the 1500's, but when the British came in the 1600's they used this term for anyone who did not look completely white or completely black. At that time this term could be applied to East Indians, Malay, Asians, NDN's, Southern Europeans, and mixed race people.
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No mention of "Black Europeans, Black Indians, and a very small number of Black Africans, made up the bulk of mixing in early Virginia. Pale face people came later with the establishment of Georgia prison colony.
Aborigines are a worldwide (planetary) population group. We are still here in America, not extinct from war and disease. We are the real indigenous matrilineal People of America living our Great Law of Peace from time immemorial. Islam
I recently found this on You Tube and it was an outstanding talk...thank you!
Loved watching this presentation, thank you for sharing 🙏🏼
Talk about how the dark-skinned ORIGINAL EUROPEANS affected the indigenous people.
This was indeed an excellent presentation I have and will continue to share with those who are a part of our tribes. Thank you
I thought NCA&T was a so called HBCU. Who's in charge of the curriculum? This is what they teach at A&T, that native americans (foreigners) mixed with europeans (foreigners) and africans (foreigners)? What about the "indigenous" people mistakingly on purpose called african americans? We been longer than all these people this dude talking about because we are the people of Mother Earth/Nature (Life). I'm from North Carolina too and still live in Charlotte where 90% of my family still lives here. We Catawba and Aniyuwiya and my ancestors didn't mix with nobody. There is no "mixed" person in my family older than 17 and I'm 62 and have a huge family. I had 20 uncles and 12 aunts, add my parents that 32 between their parents. Not a one of them mixed. A&T need to take control of their own curriculum if you wanna be called HBCU. Tell all the truth not part of it.
Salute Brother. Great Peace, Love, and Light! Thank you for checking what the Professor left out. We Aborigines are always left out. My bloodline also did not mix with foreigners.
Every person said their not mixed get your D N A test ready.
DNA test are bunk
Do all for lines of your genealogy!💯
Amazing! I’m multi-racial..45% Nigerian and 25% Indigenous, 11% Aztec and many more mini groups. I was told from Oral history my great great Grandmother was a silver haired Tuscarora woman, daughter of a Tuscarora slave in Nc from former Senator Archibald Monk.
I’m a nottoway. Thank you for this Nash, Stewart, Turner and Pigg descendant.
Those people you are calling Africans were aboriginals. During those times they were reclassified from American Indians to free people of colored to colored to negro. My genealogy and tribe dates back before the arrival of the Europeans.
@Steven Redclay....can you please E-mail me?
I have the same Tri-racial history originating from Person County, NC, also from the Halifax Co area of the VA/NC border. And yes, my ancestors were documented as “free black,” “mulatto,” “Indian” (both Plains & Cherokee), and eventually as “white.” Our surnames were/are mostly Epps’,Stuart’s, and Shepherd’s. (Also some Coleman’s, I believe).
@ Steven Redclay - Who are your people?
@@stevenredclay6506 I don't see a Saponi Catawba website. I only see a Catawba Indian Nation of Rock Hill South Carolina.
@@stevenredclay6506 Is your tribe on the NCAI website?
Wonderful presentation! Very informative. Shows how complicated our history and ancestry is.
How many “Africans” were here during this time? It is disingenuous to create this tri-racial idea when during 1540-1571 no one was speaking in these terms and the people who were here were melanated. During this time there weren’t many non-indigenous people to speak of. Also u have to be clear about the appearance of the indigenous people most of them were copper colored. The indigenous people here during this time looked like u and me.
Great information!
I really enjoyed listening & most of all learning about Beautiful NC❣
I love the Eastern side of the US. Its God's country. I grew up in East TN. Around The Beautiful Smoky Mountains. My mother's family is from VA. I was so excited to learn about NC. My mother's father was adopted and we don't know much of his Kinfolk. We have discovered we are melungeon through him. I'm interested in learning anything about people or the land on the East Coast. I want to test our DNA soon to see where we came from just like everyone else who has interest in just knowing. My son was testing at birth and he has sickle cell trait. The doctor's found it interesting that my
Fully white baby has this diagnosis. I didn't understand why they found it odd🤔. Sickle cell trait is found in black and Mediterranean descent I discovered when I researched it. Its in his genetics. I feel like I am putting a family puzzle together...lol.. lol
I look forward to listening and learning from part 2 and I am so happy I found this on TH-cam because I get to watch part 2 NOW❣💯
THANK YOU SO MUCH ❣👍
My Paternal Grandmother's Family is from Bertie County, North Carolina! There was Tuscarora* lineage also upon my Paternal Grandmother's side. Selah, Sister Hasiah Drorah BahtYah
Thank you for this amazing information
My uncle stated that my granny said her people began w/ early white settlers. They interrmarried w/ the Natives in order 2 get the land. Later, they mixed w/ Africans. We were told they were Cherokee. I traced it back to Little Plymouth in Kings & Queens County, VA. The Williams, Mitchells, Lewis, & Washington lines. They were enslaved. But before the civil war ended, a CT. dr. freed them. & the Mitchells travelled up 2 CT. in early 1860s. Most of them looked white. & my gr gr aunt was dark w/light eyes.
This was an excellent historical presentation. I would like to add my perspective from 8 years of research. My perspective is that the so-called Afrikan Americans are the American Indians. I believe I'm an example of the typical indigenous person of the Southeastern territories of America and I had 2 Cherokee great grandmothers, 1 Blackfoot/Scot-Irish and English great grandmother and 1 Scottish great grandmother. I'm also a descendant of a Scotsman that had children with a Indian woman.
I was so shocked that I literally changed my racial identity from "Black" to American Indian.
the Tuscarora that left NC 1700s were the few not the many period, 680 families stayed.
Were the Tuscaroras originally in the New York area?
@@markd5727 no
Why do the Tuscarora in Niagara NY say that they are not related to the Tuscarora's that are currently in North Carolina? Why did the Lumbee Tribe try to block Tuscarora state recognition in NC?
@@natboxerturner8943 They popped up out of nowhere in the 70s, and before that most were enrolled Lumbees. The Lumbees say they are the same people, and like the Cherokee Nations dealing with all those fake Cherokees, it's the same with the NY Tuscaroras.
@@Indianzrus Wow! Isn't that something.
I am from Petersburg Va. My family are Cherokee,both sides.Does not go back to Africa.Surnames are Lewis,Harris,Cook,and Jones in Va.North Carolina surnames are Taylor,Mitchell,Harrison,and too many more to name.Those are the core names.
Trove of information nd knowledge to go along with the Bible. Great lesson very informative. Thawadah Mr Eure nd Mr Smallwood. "We were rulers of the last world not them" Leviticus 26 Wake-Up Jacob APTTMH!
Thanks! Very informative
We Are Cousins..... Virginia ....Walter Peckler 1 Drop Rule....my family targetted.....2%-6% Mali. .
Monacan......bedford Co.....Amherst Co
Big Time Shenandoah in the Cumberland Virginia that's where Scott blood comes from you look into the Mona can drive and you will find Scottish you look into the Catawba tribe and you will find Scotch you look into the Cherokee and you will find Scott's Scottish people can long long long long long long long time ago so when you look at a native American tribe over in Virginia North Carolina it's going to be mixed because of this discrimination in Virginia you couldn't marry white if you were one drop
What about the Lumbee tribe?
Lumbee didn't exist at first contact.
Great Information, but if he & all his descendants are from NC, how can he be an African American 🤔
Someone else created that ‘lack ofchoice’
African-American came in the 1980s we are the original Indians
Blacks were never referred to as "African" only "Negro, colored, and black". The association between the enslaved and "African" began as an advertising technique to increase the value.
There were many free Black populations that were established prior to 1870. This includes groups of tri-racial isolates as they were all "Negro" under the one drop rule.
@@shaffy856 indeed
AA as a means to remove the FREEDMAN OFF TURTLE ISLAND/New world/Amerikkka.
Before I listen to this video, you know we are indigenous in South Carolina.
Are you kidding me!? The Seminole Indians in the whole state of Florida are "Copper Color" and of course indigenous too.
There's nothing new about this, we are indigenous.!!!!
AT 16:24 Why does he have "African mix" under two of the Native groups at first contact?
I love this. I’m from Pasquotank county/ south mills NC . My family always said we have Indian in us. I love in Greensboro now. I would love to sit down and talk to u one on one
Sappony nation located in Lawrenceville VA (sappony town) consisted of the Halawa , tuetlo, occeneechi, nasmonds and Eno. Had relations with Catawba, and the chowan
The Saura Natives were a tribal people in the north carolina mountain area. Not sure if they still exist or not but they arent mentioned much.
They exist I live in the area
@@ksryadkinpeedee6292
Thats whats up, my family still owns land in NC. About to move down there within the next 6 months.
@@markd5727 that’s what’s up I wish y’all the best!
@@ksryadkinpeedee6292
Thank you
Saura Indians = Cheraw Indians and they moved around a quite a bit.
My mother is from Brunswick county Virginia I remember my mom saying her grandmother was Indian and the meherrin settlement was in Va and fort christanna I would like to learn more
Redbone came before Melungeons Stacey Mae Webb....
Came here to do research after finding out my 5th Great Granddad Isaac Pugh(Bond) lived and was buried in Indian Woods Township.
You know, I really don’t know where to start… Many years ago, I would have thought that in my guess about 70% of the reconstructed information presented here was just sad, but now I simply understand that it’s just necessary. It’s funny to me that at the end of the day with everyone of these “black studies scholars”, it always comes down to a few important points.
1. So called black peoples being African Americans who’s ancestors were brought to America against their will by or now orchestrated by some all powerful white man.
2. The American Indian is or was originally those whom are now identified to be native Americans (Asian, Mongolian, Opie Taylor looking regular straight up white folks with a feather in their hat or what ever).
3. Euopean = what we know today as a so called white person.
4. It’s always a mixture or unicorn when it come down to it.
It’s funny to sit and watch mainstream historical information change right before my eyes. It’s the same ole song each and every time that this occurs and it always seems to be pushed by a particular type or look first for some odd reason…. Cute.
I'm interested in the Tuscarora - Is this the only area where they were? I'm in Ohio, in Coshocton County, one of the neighboring counties is Tuscarawas. Did they get as far north as Ohio, or where might this name have come from?
From NC recently moved to OH and started seeing tusc everywhere too!
This is so good. Question: Do you think that Spaniards did not carry smallpox, but the English did?
I am now 61 years old and from South Carolina, I speak the indigenous language!!!
All "Copper Color" people that lives in South Carolina are indigenous.? Google up the lakes in South Carolina, they have indigenous names.
I noticed this gentleman with the suit on was trying to avoid South Carolina.
Look at the map of South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Louisiana.
Loved this presentation. I am researching my family which I believe to be tri racial from the Rockbridge Co VA area. Ailstock and Goins. My gg grandmothers census records in the mid 1800s have her race as M but by the 1900s her race changed to W after she married a white man. My DNA confirms African heritage. Oral reports and some non confirmed written works also say Native American. The paper trail is so hard to follow. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I'm doing a lot of research in Amherst Buckingham all those counties a lot of the burn counties but yeah give me some names see if I know any of them see if they sound familiar I've been researching these Bloodlines for 20-30 years
Here you keep on that information hope the giant paragraph didn't put one name in there
Susan Breedlove
Dear God.
the dna test is fake ....talk to the older family members and above all get copies of birth records
Nathaniel Turner was a Nottoway Indian 💪🏿
Incorrect Barbary pirates had a base camp in Jolly old England sir.
I had heard that the English were out on the seas pretending to be pirates stealing cargo and gold
What about the, Puggusatt Indian in Colchester, ?
As a North Carolina Native.. i appreciated this a lot. Thank you for giving my people’s history a program to be taught on. i do have 3 Questions.
1. Are there any Dna Test Companies that have a database of south eastern tribe samples?
2. Are any of these dna test reliable if trying to find results of native american southeast mixed tribe dna/ ancestry??
3. Was the Iroquois Confederation larger than the Powhatan Paramount Chiefdom (Powhatan Nation)?
not in reality DNA is not absolute for the gov does not allow the ancestral Tuscarora DNA to be data based for fear that we are still here,
@@robertchavis490
Thats what i was thinking, but wanted to see if true or not. Appreciate the response sir. 👍
@@robertchavis490 They're still that threatened!?
Tribes are discouraged from. Submitting dna samples. Because when we so called african America's are found to be the direct decendents of native Americans., they will have to give everyone still living and their decendents money and land. They will go broke and have to give us our country back.
@@robertchavis490 I. WILL BE DAMNED. I knew it. Grandma said in the 60s,
"We ain't African boy, WE INJINS."
Thank u for this info, we need a lecture with unlimited time
Arent most ADOS so called "African Americans" tri racial"???
My ancestors are the Tuscarora tribe and it is said that we are marked as just black my dad is Cherokee as well this mess is not right WE ARE STILL HERE!!!!!there is no black that is made up my family back ground name is Goins, and I want go any further than that my grandfather was a Goins of North Carolina lumbee what they call Tuscarora aka the Croatian era
The surname "Goins" comes up and every article regarding tri-racial isolates. So much so that it's spread through white communities to watch out as they were trying to "pass" white. White is why you talk of not having "African" blood. Have you taken an Ancestry DNA test?
If you do your paper ancestry and find "Mullatos" that's and indication of Black ancestry.
Black ancestry doesn't imply enslaved as Many triracial groups were not ever enslaved. This is what creates the sociological divide.
Btw I'm not trying to persuade you or convince you of anything, just providing resources
@@shaffy856 Do you have a source for your statement on the Goins family? Am descendant and interested.
Observation of mankind by Benjamin Franklin READ IT. Clearly describes the our people & the people over the seas.
BLOOD SO LARGELY MINGLED: WE'RE ALL LIVING AS IN ONE HOUSE: BETWEEN THE TWO RACES YOU CAN'T DIG TO DEEP A GAP
This is interesting..
34:26 Where are the slave ships. Not those fantasy drawings.
33:53. I understand, that a wood ship could not cross the treacherous Atlantic - Africa to VA. but there it is, and impossible. Earlier maps show Africa was decidedly closer to the W Hemisphere than what's showed. Now would you advance that Africans could not build nor sail ships?
Do any of the actual native histories agree with this?
Question: How did the Africans get here? Can someone please explain the route 🌎 on wooden boat's. 😅
Fort Marn???
We're not African American read the copper colored people of America through Moyock North Carolina through Elizabeth City Champion Oaks Gates County all was Indian Territory you should know those were your ancestors
Facts bro I’m from EC
The funny thing is is tinsley is also a bloodline of mine and Andrew Jackson's sister is my great great great great grandmother. Goff..... Wright. Pownall. Crouse. Indentured Slaves
Cool. Can I get the wages my ancestors should have gotten ms.president VI?
40:20. Generational living under 1 roof.Thats how both sides of my family still lived at 2 generations in NYS. Then you build a home on the 100 acre farm. I am 71 at this comment. 4.'22
The Sappony nation joined forces with the Tuscarawas in the Tuscarawan War
Hello I am a descendant of Amherst the Cumberland Buckingham Nelson and one that starts with a B from the 1600s can't remember what it's called so I did my DNA that's what you want to hear comes my mother's first generation Irish so there's no question there come out I'd say 60%, Irish 29% scotch maybe 6% Swedish maybe 3% Welsh 2% Nigerian and Mali
Should just be Carolina’s because my grandfather’s family is originally from NC.
Tyree Terry Southards Painter......here.....
Tuscarora is up New York with us Iroquois confederacy and we have wampum belt records and black Natives did not exist i know because im seneca from western Newyork and we living this everyday and still here and still strong wr know the truth we are the original first and oldest speaking tribe in a america
This guy talking excludes a lot of information and misrepresent as if it's fact. First hand accounts by many conquistadors explorers description of the native people were dark, swarthy, or look like Ethiopian.
From 1525 to the mid to late 1700's the African slave trade didn't gain a foothold until 1740's and by 1808 census reports there was already a million plus enslaved people. From the 1600's to 1725 less than 300 enslaved Africans arrived to the new world every year, especially coming thru South Carolina.
Less than 388k Africans landed on American soil by 1808 but by 1810 it was 1.4 enslaved people in America. At least 90% of those enslaved people were native from 1525 all the way to the late 1700's. Did all those enslaved people disappear and were magically replaced. This speaker is really trying to input a racial mixing theme to this time period in history.
*1.4 million
The original indians were also so called black people and not mix.
@@bobreilly4996 no that’s lie they say but have since change too 93000 African slave came to North American
@@sheniquaturner595
Yeah, it's a revised number with Dane Calloway having apart in him questioning their numbers. Thanjs for the comment.
@@bobreilly4996 According to Dane Ninety seven thousand Africans were brought to N America!
Not a commoner thing from a territory/commonwealth Puerto Rican 👏 cool
😂 His-story!!
Monacan
This guy has never been to niagra falls Tuscarora rez lol you are totally wrong brother
Native Americans are immigrants from Siberia HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE YOU CALL AFRICAN AMERICA THE REAL INDIANS
@thisguyhere233 blacks keep forgetting that its only N.A.s that have DNA evidence of being the 1st Americans. blacks & whites don't have American DNA, so African Americans without DNA evidence R not the real Indians. Its the N.A.s that have the only DNA evidence of being 1st Americans that are the real Indians. N.A.s came here through Siberia so that means Asians R the 1st Americans not Negro
Is it ur position that the indigenous (Indians) were not melanated? Is it ur position that slaves were all Africans?
But you have african mixd in you
The more I study I realize we're afro- indigenous
More like afro-idiots.
DNA studies prove that Mulungion people are plain mulattos black white, so it also goes for the other so called native Americans who clain indian in tbe Southeast.i think its jyst wishful thinking on White and African Americans who claim the heritage. 😂
We discovered just last week that our German Shepherd is of negro descent on he daddy side. We wondered why he always barked with a Cherokee accent.
The Sappony nation joined forces with the Tuscarawas in the Tuscarawan War