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The Looming Mikko Contract Extension. Avalanche "What If...".Jared Bednar Gets His Season Grade

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
  • Mikko Rantanen has one more year left on his current contract which means the Colorado Avalanche can negotiate an extension with him right now. Will they and what would an extension look like in terms of numbers. But would it also benefit Mikko to not sign one, have a career year and add an extra million?
    We also play a game of Avalanche "what if" where we look at a few moments in Avalanche history as ask what if they happened differently.
    Finally, Jared Bednar gets his season grade!
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  • @dreamwarriordiary5339
    @dreamwarriordiary5339 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Bednar's hair gets an A+.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A triple A+

    • @madamebattleaxe4257
      @madamebattleaxe4257 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      AGREED!!!

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@madamebattleaxe4257 this why we vibe 🤜🏻🤛🏻

    • @user-lt3td9dv5z
      @user-lt3td9dv5z 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, he needs a cut.

  • @briggsy5893
    @briggsy5893 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Mikko for 8 years $11.5 mil AAV, sign it now. His value is pretty well set at this point, he's an elite player who will get elite money - what he does next year won't change his bottom line number much either way.
    As for $10 mil players winning a Cup, Vegas was the first to do so, Florida then won the Cup with multiple $10 mil players.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t hate the number

  • @reilific
    @reilific หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How Mikko played 2022-2023 season, I say we need to hella sign him. Insane snipes, super physical in the corners, showing fire on refs even when not needed still shows the passion. Last year, despite his high points just seemed like he was a place holder on the pp line. Little back checking, and more of a give and go passer. That was my perception, which means why lock us up in a situation where we are a 2 line team. Its a weird spot. The Avs have another cup in them in this era I think but again like the 2022 cup run, we had the perfect concoction of players. You guys may have talked about it already but why did we trade Walker?

  • @madamebattleaxe4257
    @madamebattleaxe4257 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will always give Bednar an A.
    Basically he makes his players be accountable and treat each other as Adults. He does not try to "Control" his players.
    And im so sorry Mrs. Electrician Ziggy, but his hair IS our system. GIRL work that out😂😂😂
    I just know that if the Nords didnt come to Denver, i would have never been exposed to this world, so I am happy it happened❤
    And of course @shaggy von doom wants a cherry suit😂😂
    Mikko will get extended, it will never be as much as Mackinnon, but they will work it out😊😊
    GREAT SHOW GUYS ❤❤

  • @rerega3177
    @rerega3177 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What if Colorado beat dallas in 99. Probably would have beat buffalo and one that cup.
    But also whats interesting about the avs/red wings rivalry was that detriot happened to be the opposing team in the game that pushed roy over the edge with montreal. So in a sense the avs had the perfect storm (pun intended) for this to happen. And when the rivalry was said and done everything was pretty even as neither team straight up dominated the other.
    Plus i think its interesting how the avs won their first cup by making enemies while their second was with the power of friendship with bourque.
    And finally i just like the idea that detriot and Colorado are intertwined because they seem to follow the same path as they were the power houses in the mid 90's to 00's and then they both sucked royally at the same time in the mid to late 2010's.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh they woulda handled Buffalo easily

  • @RIPJimmyA7X
    @RIPJimmyA7X หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10.5 sounds fair for Mikko. Im not worried too much about the cap because lets be real, there is no way any team could put a cup winner on the ice when playing with a 13 mill handicap to everyone else. After this year both the Val and Landy situations should be resolved so we can finally either have the players or have the cap space 1 of the 2.
    Also four 10 mill players isn't necessarily Torontos problem its that all 4 are forwards and they only get 10 mill performance out of 3 at best, Their biggest problem is Tavares

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Once the big two contract questions get answered it will be easier to put this together

  • @petrpumpkineater
    @petrpumpkineater หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Credit JB for going more classic in his shirt/tie combos. Ditched the grey, purple, & black for more white, pink, & blue. MacK too.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like the color choices

  • @matambale
    @matambale หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Footnote: The Mrs. pointed out that my hair is becoming Bednar-like.
    I just said, "Gosh thanks honey!"

  • @kaydirling
    @kaydirling หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    10-11 for Mikko is fair, and I hope he wants to stay here and also thinks that's fair. We don't know that he wants to stay here (or what is in anyone's head). The advantages seem obvious to us but maybe he really would rather be the big fish in a smaller pond. I wonder if it annoys him that MacKinnon/Makar get all the commentary and he's an all-star who is just weirdly forgotten. Maybe he likes being under the radar a bit. The latter seems more likely to me but we don't know...
    Bednar's long hair is a glory to behold and the dude could singlehandedly serve as the example for why NHL coaches should keep wearing suits. That purple 3-piece number is 🔥I guess it helps that he's just a handsome fellow.
    I've seen often the argument that Quebec wouldn't have won the Cup because Montreal would never have allowed a Roy trade to the Nordiques. It's an interesting question though.
    What if Makar went in the top 3? Who would they have picked at #4? That draft was a gift from the gods.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oooo that’s a fantastic what if

  • @stillonly25cents67
    @stillonly25cents67 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    re: What If. … I disagree that the Nord would have won a cup if they stayed in Quebec … no way Montreal deals Roy to Quebec

    • @AvAlanchian
      @AvAlanchian หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Possibly

    • @BodyofWater_
      @BodyofWater_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. In that era there was no way the Nordics would have gotten Roy

  • @MikeL-42033
    @MikeL-42033 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Patrick Roy is literally the only reason I started liking the AVS but the one moment that I still remember negativity and probably the worst I have of him is the statue of liberty moment in 2002 vs the red wings in game 6.. if he could of held that puck in his glove they may of had another cup back to back

  • @stillonly25cents67
    @stillonly25cents67 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2 big What If’s …. what if there was no salary cap introduced? also, what if ROR stayed?

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh man no cap, sign me up lol

  • @qp2044
    @qp2044 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont think anything happens with mikko till there is some clarity on val and gabe, but i do wonder if they can afford much bigger of a hit for him. Cale is also going to get a huge raise, probably set the new league high. If gabe is fully healthy and val is back... i wonder if there is a world where they trade him, or let him walk, and sign drouin and another player in that 5ish range

  • @stillonly25cents67
    @stillonly25cents67 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    unimaginable What If, what if we won the 2017 draft lottery like we were supposed to based on odds and selected Nolan Patrick

  • @cuff02
    @cuff02 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a funny feeling that the Ekholm hit afected Mikko more than we realise. The hit itself wasn't the issue, but I think the speed at which his head hit the ice afterwards did a lot more damage than we realise. It was only a handful of games before the playoffs too and although he was getting some stick he still put up more than a point per game in the playoff run.

  • @88playmkr
    @88playmkr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If Mikko is the moose who is the squirrel?

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cale is a suitable Rocky lol

  • @matambale
    @matambale หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Disagree, Bednar is adaptive; it is time to rewatch the oh, two freaking dozen come-from-behind victories where the approach changed and the score rocketed up. True, fundamentally The Scheme is Speed, but I've seen position/play shifts happen sharply, subtly, and smartly and BAM the opposition becomes helpless against an *avalanche* of goals.
    Just wish we'd adapted to the Stars' obsession with hugging people on the ice.

  • @juholaitakari1305
    @juholaitakari1305 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know the Leafs live in their own reality however if Marner’s looking at over 12 Mikko’s deserving at least that.
    My guess is that Mikko wants a round number 90 million dollars which would make aav 11,25.

  • @kyled8819
    @kyled8819 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you try and negotiate now with Mikko and if you can get an extension with him for less than 10.5 then you make the deal now.

  • @Gmancan
    @Gmancan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the team would of stayed in Quebec, they wouldn't get Patrick Roy in a trade because Mtl would never trade one of their star player to their arch rival.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Valid

    • @LockedOnAvalanche
      @LockedOnAvalanche  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is reported that Montreal and Quebec actually had a deal in place for Roy but the Montreal GM was fired the day before it was set to be announced and they scraped the entire thing. If the Yankees and Red Sox can make a deal, anything is possible.

  • @austinkane3366
    @austinkane3366 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mikko is getting 11.6, 100k more than Nylander. And he deserves it. He’s a top 5 winger in the league.

  • @nickadams569
    @nickadams569 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also, it literally just happened this year, Bob makes 10 million and won a cup

    • @zamboniman69
      @zamboniman69 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And Eichel the year before...

  • @BodyofWater_
    @BodyofWater_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    These teams going crazy and signing everyone for stupid contracts this offseason really screwed everything to the point that it doesn’t even help that the cap went up 😂. So dumb

  • @Kaus5221
    @Kaus5221 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trade Mikko

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woof

    • @Kaus5221
      @Kaus5221 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shaggyvondoom meow

  • @EnjoyerofMiserableMarinersBsbl
    @EnjoyerofMiserableMarinersBsbl หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trade Mikko. This formula we have with a top-heavy team isn’t working. And we will put ourselves in further cap hell if we lock him up. Why not try to get 3 players for him or at least see if that is an option? We can’t keep everybody, that’s the reality of the situation. Look at how strapped we are now by trying to do that. I love Mikko, but him not being here should be explored.

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My lord

    • @chrisdavis273
      @chrisdavis273 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must be miserable

    • @cuff02
      @cuff02 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trading a back to back 100+ point player who's one of our best playmakers is wild!

  • @rachle81
    @rachle81 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if Peter Forsberg's spleen never ruptured? Do you think he'd have still taken his weird leave of absence that next season? Related: what if Forsberg hadn't bought his penthouse in LoDo before the spleen thing; do you think if he still lived up at his house in Golden that he'd have just gone home instead of going out with the team the night his spleen went kaput? Because if so, you have to think there's a good chance he pops some ibuprofen and goes to bed and ignores how awful he feels then keeps bleeding internally unchecked to the point where he could have died in his sleep. Big big yikes.
    What if we didn't trade Deadmarsh for Blake?
    What if Mario Tremblay had chosen wisely and pulled Patty instead of letting him twist in the wind for 8 goals? (And if the Nordiques hadn't moved out of Quebec, zero chance he'd have gone to them if everything else stayed the same and he did want out of Montreal.)
    What if Joe Sakic had actually gone to play for the Rangers? (Thanks for saving our bacon, Harrison Ford!)
    What if they'd selected Seth Jones instead of Nate? (Or in hilarious 'twilight zone' fashion, what if they'd selected Jonathan Drouin instead of other of the others? Would we have ended up bringing Nate in last year and flip-flopped the way it actually happened to get the Halifax Homies back together? Ha ha.)
    What if they hadn't lost the draft lottery and they'd gotten to choose first in 2017? Would we still have Cale in burgundy and blue?
    What if Howler hadn't bonked that one cranky fan with a rolled up poster leading to a scuffle with her? (The mental image of that is just utterly hilarious to me. I always picture Ace Ventura getting into a fight with the Eagles mascot when I think of it, ha ha)
    What if Cale never kicks Landy in the knee?
    What if the team was actually called the Rocky Mountain Extreme? Barfo.
    And it was Slava Kozlov who nailed Adam Foote in game 3 in 1996. Everyone looks at the Draper hit and thinks that's where stuff really popped off, but it was for sure the Kozlov dirty hit that at the very least lit the fire.

    • @LockedOnAvalanche
      @LockedOnAvalanche  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is exactly why we said we could have done a full show on what ifs. The Rocky Mountain Extreme was one I was going to bring up. Can you imagine?

    • @rachle81
      @rachle81 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LockedOnAvalanche You SHOULD do a full show of what ifs! It would be utterly fascinating.