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I'm a bass through and through. My lowest comfortable note is a D1. I used to have a deviated septum and couldn't even use falsetto while speaking. Now, 8 years and TONS of practice later, I can sing most "tenor" tracks with ease! It's all about consistent, healthy practice! Btw Chris, you're the one who introduced me to pitched screams a few years ago. Now I can do most deathcore screams. Thank you!
I've always told people that vocal types came around before microphones and it mostly just refers to the loudest part of your range, which was because you needed to sing over an orchestra and fill a venue unaided. You can literally sing whatever range/timbre you want provided you're willing and know how to work on it
As a singer in a band I have learned so much from you. I'm retired military / LE and I was shot in the neck twice. I had to relearn a lot but your videos have helped me improve and learn control. At some point if it's financially viable I will explore your course.
Hey Chris, I remember you pointed this out in our lesson. It's so valuable not only to how I sound but also to my confidence. It really made me feel like I could sing!
Having a heavier voice is very good as the lower the voice is the more diverse and universal it is. I ve heard so many basses and bass baritones being able to hit so good high notes in a quality that many tenors can only dream of. Its just training, its just dedication and loving of what you are doing. Thank you Chris, you have done so much for me on this vocal way already. Im wondering what I would be able to do in a couple of years. I am a baritone with lowest supported note up to G2-F2, naturally Im talking in F2-A2 and I ve already understood that the first step to good range is ignoring a stupid mindset like „you are a baritone, sing up to B3, higher is not for you“
@@josku5Não a fisiologia se atenta apenas a quantidade de massa muscular na prega vocal de cada indivíduo, apenas isso. Todo mundo tem médio, grave e agudo. Acontece que alguns cordas vocais mais fracas e até fendas, portanto, ao se alongar pra fazer um agudo, a corta tem maior elasticidade. Se voce nao sabia nem disso, deveria estudar antes de falar merda.
@ I mean the quality of high notes. Im not talking about perfectly belted G5, of course. Im talking about parts that are perceived as pretty high for baritones and good for tenors (Maybe F4-B4) - absolutely cool and possible range for a baritone where it can sound sometimes even better with its heaviness and fullness thank to thick vocal chords that baritones and basses have.
It’s not universal truth but I get what you are saying in your last comment especially. You have bari-tenors which is what you are kinda implying in quality. It is all about the training and the younger the age helps. You can use Dimash as an example. Classically trained from a young age and he can hit B2’s or lower possibly and go way up into a whistle register so it’s doable.
The speaking voice is never the singing voice. The speaking voice and the singing voice are two completely different functions, you don’t speak with support from the diaphragm. This is easy to prove with opera singers. Opera singers can have wildly different speaking voices from their singing voices. A great and most surprising example is the very hefty dramatic tenors, Mario Del Monaco and Franco Corelli who had these high and light tenor speaking voices. Coloratura soprano Beverly Sills had quite a deep and low speaking voice. Ettore Bastianini was a dramatic baritone with an incredible bass speaking voice. Whereas a baritone, Giangiacomo Guelfi who had one of the biggest and most dramatic baritone voices of all time, had a normal almost tenor speaking voice. Opera is a good place to dispel this myth of the speaking voice, because they sing with great technique.
Very interesting topic Chris! the past few nights I had very similar thoughts like how did I go from lower baritone to full Tenor/soprana range because I keep getting lower notes also 😅 when at first I was barely an octave solid with super 'nasal' high notes (learned how to lean in a lot more to that also from your videos help) to now hitting closer to the full four octaves after about 4 or 5 years of consistency with my voice! Just want to say how much your channel has stuck with me all these years it's good to see and hear you sharing creative thoughts like these! Many thanks 🙏🏼🎶
VV's range is crazy. There's some bass-baritone sounding notes in the doomy songs, some falsetto in the romantic ones, and some gritty belted high notes in the heavier rock stuff. He's a great singer and I'd love to hear Chris' take on him. Great call 👍
@natewatchman totally! Just watched the Digital Versatile Doom live show after posting this. The fact that that band was Valo's singular vision, how he sings those songs and the level of charisma he has.. last real rock star in my book.
You have golden ears heart mind and throat sir. Many other observations - I'd build on, here. But I'll keep those to myself in my development. Thanks again [and to you]
Remember, language/accents play a HUGE role! I'm a Tenor and from the UK, my voice is light and thin, but I don't speak naturally as high a pitch like Americans. Oh and also, that's NOT MJ's real speaking voice!
That upper chest voice you were doing is kinda the same one uses to talk to children and pets, as evidenced by the fact that my dog came over under the impression that I was talking to her. Haha.
I started choir as a baritone, as all my friends were singing lower and it was kinda embarrassing at the time wanting to sing a higher register. It stuck, and I sang baritone all the way through highschool and the first year of college. My choir director then asked me one practice, "have you ever tried tenor?" I said not really, and she was like "ok, you're a tenor now." It was a great change. I can go decently low, especially if Im sick, but loved singing tenor. It fit my register a lot better. Havent sang in a while, but I'll happily sing tenor for the rest of my life.
That echoes my experience growing up too. In college in choir I was designated a baritone and started taking singing lessons but by the time I was leaving college they moved me to tenor because of my range and they needed more tenors too lol. I have a very broad range and my tessitura (mispelled) is comfortable more around middle C range.
Glad someone told you at the right time. Nothing annoys me more than hearing a natural tenor with a beautiful voice avoiding the higher notes because they think its unmanly.
voice stuff is so interesting! I'm something like a low baritone but I like to imitate lots of different singers (including women), & it's really kind of surprising just how many different sounds I can adopt. it's a lot of fun & I've learned a lot just trying to do what singers who seemingly don't sound like me are doing. I haven't figured out quite how to let my speaking voice be what it should be since it dropped (transmasc) & I'm sort of stuck keeping it much higher than it needs to be (half to even a full octave or so above where it should sit) which has been good for developing a high range in singing I think but as I recently discovered it means my low range is really undeveloped. it's a work in progress lol
Woow such a great video! I thought my voice had dropped since 2 years, but actually, now I have found it back, because I started to use heavier singing techniques those last two years and it really deepened my speaking voice or gave it way more "resonance" lower. My actual speaking voice used to lie right where yours is when you do the demonstration while "speaking" high. I find it so so cool to now have both again. Thank you soo much
I apologize for being impatient but I’m extremely eager to watch your reaction to MJ’s Remember the Time; his vocals on this track are one of the many reasons why it’s my favorite song of his
@@AtomizedSound I agree. It's actually unfortunate that we live in an age where baritones have to stray outside of their comfort zone and LARP as tenors to gain credibility. When baritones were allowed to just be baritones and operate within their wheelhouse (Frank Sinatra), pop music was so much more diverse and memorable.
So does this mean if I use a higher voice tone, overtime, my singing voice will be higher as well? My voice is naturally deep, but it tends to go a bit higher when I talk to people.
Another thing to acknowledge is that most men are naturally baritones because men on average are taller now, of course there are exceptions but generally the taller you are the longer and lower the instrument will be. Most tenors are in the asian countries where people tend to be shorter. And tessitura will always be the biggest factor in determining fach, where could you comfortably sing and live.
I was a bass chorist in choirs for years. My vocal range at that time (18-24 years old) was between d2-f4. I left the choir, started focusing more on my voice as a vocalist, and worked on my high notes by improving my technique. I can now use the b1-a#4 range effectively. If I am not tired and if I warm my voice well, I can also go as high as d5. Almost all of these I mentioned are with chest voice (possibly a little bit of mixed voice after b4 and higher). I am currently trying to learn my head voice and produce more mixed voices. If you have any suggestions on this subject, I would love to hear them. For example, I cannot sing quiet f4 and higher notes. I think it's not normal, something should be missing in my technique. The reason I have been pushing my voice to such highs for years is actually because my falsetto is much higher than the tenors around me, and this encouraged me. I have been able to sing G#5 as a falsetto for as long as I can remember.
I'm a baritone. I realized this while growing up with Linkin Park, at one time I realized I couldn't sing Chester parts anymore. Not knowing what was happening to my voice, I forced my self and developed some bad habits. It's not helping that most of the popular songs are written in tenor range... But I'm working on it, managed to relax my voice a lot in recent years
Chris there’s an interesting video on Michael Jackson and how his voice is not really a natural tenor. They go obsessively into depth and detail about it using diagrams, and different clips of his, it’s very well done and edited, and really engaging. Since you cover his songs a lot in your videos I think you’ll find it very interesting, if you haven’t watched it already. I can’t send a link here because TH-cam doesn’t allow sharing links but I’m in the Discover Your Voice family so I can send it to you in the comments there if you like, or elsewhere, just let me know.
Phenomenal training Chris! This makes so much sense amd is incredibly helpful! It made me wonder if I could train myself to tap into emotions by feeling different emotions in my body and making the sound they make and trying to sing in that sound. Like the sound of agony or grief, fear or joy. Does that make sense? 🤔
It makes perfect sense! I train my students to do exactly what you are describing with connecting emotions to how they feel in the body and then how they sound as a result of reacting how your voice FEELS !!
I'd be into more speaking/singing voice breakdowns e.g. thom yorke,michael stipe,axel rosee,george michael,freddy mercury. I think despite the deeper thicker sound stipe also has high harmonics in his spoken voice. George Michael I can't place, he has a warm thick sound in his spoken and sung voice despite being comfortable at tenor voice...freddy sounded baritone-ish speaking too.
People say I have a low voice, but I can hit a C5 in chest, so it can't be that low lol (Maybe it's a C4, I don't know my theory too well. It's pretty high up there though. I sound like a screaming child)
Good one man! When I started singing I was a light tenor. Then I decided I wanted more low end. My vocal coach helped me develop a new voice. It was done mostly by working on my speaking voice. It took much time but it happened and I was thrilled because of the flexibility and increased range but... I neglected the higher end of my voice. It has weakened so much now and I miss it. Does anyone else struggle to maintain their range?
As someone else also mentioned this is actually a big part of the process of trans voice training. Since I myself am both a singer and trans it's interesting how much common ground there is.
I would really like to hear how far have you reached transitioning your voice, cause Ive heard some examples of how „woman-like“ even certain baritones can sound, thats mindblowing.
Wings of Pegasus who was once on Liepe's channel for Human nature has a full video about MJ's speaking voice. In the video you chosed MJ was 38,39 yrs old. His vocal coach said that the voices are maturing with us. In the clip chosen by Liepe, MJ was 21 yrs old. If we listen his interviews 8 yrs later his voice was lower, but the tone used was soft.
My voice is baritone I believe but for some reason I mix *A LOT* naturally. I wish I knew my true vocal type. Around A4 I'm a little more heady but you can hear some chest in there
Great video. All your explaining and demonstrating is so true. That’s what I love about your approach to vocals. Ko limits and no boundaries to what you can do with your voice.
Your head voice talking is really funny for some reason😂 it helps allot to do this though, also Chris could you do a video on Flagolet? I know it's creaky door exercise and fry and all that, I can get so close to Flagolet or whatever you would call it, high head voice? I'm getting so close but I'm missing a placement i think . Anyways good stuff as always dude😊
So, I would put myself in that higher baritone range for my "resting tone," but with falsetto I can hit a D7 (don't ask me how I don't know lol). My question is, how do I add compression with my mixed voice to singer higher notes without sounding like Toad 😩
some of it is compression, yes, but it's really about discovering different placements via character and resonance studies that will help you sound any way you want to in any part of your range. I help you do exactly this in weeks 3 and 4 of my course Discover Your Voice. You can request an invite at chrisliepe.com if you're interested in learning more about the program :)
I can go from baritone range to whistles and off stage I’m self conscious about low voice or morning voice. I’m so happy I speak higher than almost all my favorite singers sometimes I find myself doing the Michael Jackson thing haha. Lots of transgender people do this and I want to know if it can permanently heighten your baseline pitch and if there is possibly any such technique that can change the location of your breaks especially if you have more than one passagio
Baritone here. About three years ago, during the whole covid thing I got sick with pneumonia and was fighting the consequences for a month+. Couldn't stop coughing. Afterwards found out that my access to the head voice is entirely gone. Any attempt to flip into it just ended with me whispering, sometimes even while talking the vocal cords would disconnect for a moment. After working on it I have regained the ability to sing some high notes (practically reach my limit of B3-C4), through humming first, but trying to actually sing and sustain them comes with a lot of effort and a lot of air. The sound just doesn't come out unless I push it. Any tips?
Stop pushing! Try a very gentle and low volume vocal fry from the very bottom of your range to your upper range. Try to imagine its a zipper (you’re bringing your cords together in a gentle way and conditioning it trough repetition) it must feel like a vocal folds massage. Do this for a bit every day.
I had the same problem shortly after one of the times I got COVID. I had to re learn the muscle coordinations to access my head voice. It was a little scary, but because I knew how to rediscover those muscle memories, I was able to train it back in about 3 weeks. It took a lot of speech level training and breathing to bring it back. I can help you do this in the first few weeks of my course Discover Your Voice. You can request an invite at chrisliepe.com if you're interested :)
I think it’s mostly nurture, it’s a fact that women’s voices have dropped about an octave the past couple of decades. I don’t think the vocal cords have changed it’s all placement.
Hey, baritone here. I am a baritone and I really want to be a tenor. My range is F#2 - E4, and I want to have a tenor range. If I change my speaking voice from speaking like "on the ground" to kind of a mixed voice, how much change would it make? And how long is it going to take? I'm already doing it (day 1), and I'd like to know how much time this will take :)
Google says he's a baritone, that was my whole point of this video. We can argue and people will argue all day long about who is what. It's the never ending pointless argument. Stop paying attention to the labels and work on the opportunities with your own voice. Forget the typecasts and labels. On your voice and on others voices.
I don't think that's true.Whats the evidence for 'faking' his speaking voice? It doesnt even sound in character for the man. additionallyy his high notes are exclusively in mix, chesty belting was absent from his sound
@@chrisliepe There’s no endless debate here-voices can be classified based on their sound, and no matter what you do with your tone, it will always sound like what you are: tenor, baritone, or bass. There’s no way to change this. In your case, Chris, it’s evident that you’re a tenor. Listen to your harmonics-part of them are similar to Cornell’s, right? And Cornell’s harmonics are similar to Myles Kennedy’s, aren’t they? It’s obvious that Kennedy is a tenor.
@@RicardoOlivares-f1x lol this guy is full of confirmation bias and self-fulfilling prophecies, no point even trying to reason with him. Blatantly obvious tenor that has voice dysmorphia and tries to convince himself he's a "baritone".
Ok, but we know for a fact that a lot of stars put on voices for interviews. Both Michael and Prince are legendary for personal acquaintances attesting to them having much deeper voices than the ones they showed the public. It seems in the clip for Chris Cornell you shared he was intentionally trying to be as low as possible to sound cool but he had some breaks where he went higher. So it's not accurate to say that forcing yourself to talk a certain way is how these guys gained greater vocal flexibility, because it's likely most of the time they talked the other way, the way you don't see on camera.
Since I am not an expert I just hear a bunch of masculin voices. 😅 M. J. is the only one that sounds like a teenager. As I mentioned in the past, I prefer lower masculin voice type. It sounds "fuller", warmer.
This video is also informative to young men & women who are going through puberty and or LGBT or trans individuals because very few people talk about where we place our voices when speaking in general conversations. It's insane how many small things like this about our bodies that we don't think about or talk about. I don't think people understand this is exactly what Ariana Grande has always done too.
That’s the whole point of including him here. By doing what I suggest in this video he was able to convince google to classify him as a tenor and have his voice do all sorts of things in tenor ways even though he had a naturally lower voice.
First of all, there are many kinds of tenor voices. So speaking voices have a very limited impact on the range of the voice. Speaking and singing are very different.
theres another video on a channel analysing michaels warm ups. It showed he had a certain comfort lower. than your typical tenor but he didnt really seem comfortable at the lower end of baritone range at all
Chris Cornell was not a baritone, he was a spinto tenor, a sort of low tenor, as other singers like Freddie Mercury, Dee Snider, Roger Daltrey ... Morrison was a baritone though @@V.Cole111
@@Vosraider his speaking voice sounds uncontroversially baritone. Virtually all his higher notes are very much in mixed voice. I''m not buying Cornell as a tenor despite the beefy mixed voice...just naturally gifted
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I'm a bass through and through. My lowest comfortable note is a D1. I used to have a deviated septum and couldn't even use falsetto while speaking. Now, 8 years and TONS of practice later, I can sing most "tenor" tracks with ease!
It's all about consistent, healthy practice!
Btw Chris, you're the one who introduced me to pitched screams a few years ago. Now I can do most deathcore screams. Thank you!
@@peacelovemetal5197 Great! I would really love to listen to some of your tenor takes!
Are you belting those notes above A4 though?
Yeah, sure. D1 as lowest comfortable note. Tell us more lies, we sure will believe you 😆
I hope you meant D2
D1 as the first octave of a full scale piano or D2 as in the lowest D note of a bass?
D1 sounds fishy unless you mean throat singing
I've been telling people "I'm a baritone who lives in tenor world" so this video is going to be great for me.
my neighbours when Chris Liepe uploads a new video: 😥😥
hehe
I've always told people that vocal types came around before microphones and it mostly just refers to the loudest part of your range, which was because you needed to sing over an orchestra and fill a venue unaided. You can literally sing whatever range/timbre you want provided you're willing and know how to work on it
Am I the only one who was waiting for an "Oh boy!" while Chris was grounding in a higher pitch? 😂
hehe
you're not the only one lol
As a singer in a band I have learned so much from you. I'm retired military / LE and I was shot in the neck twice. I had to relearn a lot but your videos have helped me improve and learn control. At some point if it's financially viable I will explore your course.
Hey Chris, I remember you pointed this out in our lesson. It's so valuable not only to how I sound but also to my confidence. It really made me feel like I could sing!
Having a heavier voice is very good as the lower the voice is the more diverse and universal it is. I ve heard so many basses and bass baritones being able to hit so good high notes in a quality that many tenors can only dream of. Its just training, its just dedication and loving of what you are doing.
Thank you Chris, you have done so much for me on this vocal way already. Im wondering what I would be able to do in a couple of years. I am a baritone with lowest supported note up to G2-F2, naturally Im talking in F2-A2 and I ve already understood that the first step to good range is ignoring a stupid mindset like „you are a baritone, sing up to B3, higher is not for you“
Depending on what you mean by ”high notes tenors can dream of”. There are physica limits to the human voice, even with training.
@@josku5Não a fisiologia se atenta apenas a quantidade de massa muscular na prega vocal de cada indivíduo, apenas isso. Todo mundo tem médio, grave e agudo. Acontece que alguns cordas vocais mais fracas e até fendas, portanto, ao se alongar pra fazer um agudo, a corta tem maior elasticidade. Se voce nao sabia nem disso, deveria estudar antes de falar merda.
@ I mean the quality of high notes. Im not talking about perfectly belted G5, of course. Im talking about parts that are perceived as pretty high for baritones and good for tenors (Maybe F4-B4) - absolutely cool and possible range for a baritone where it can sound sometimes even better with its heaviness and fullness thank to thick vocal chords that baritones and basses have.
It’s not universal truth but I get what you are saying in your last comment especially. You have bari-tenors which is what you are kinda implying in quality. It is all about the training and the younger the age helps. You can use Dimash as an example. Classically trained from a young age and he can hit B2’s or lower possibly and go way up into a whistle register so it’s doable.
@@AtomizedSound No, Dimash is like a standard tenor.
The speaking voice is never the singing voice. The speaking voice and the singing voice are two completely different functions, you don’t speak with support from the diaphragm. This is easy to prove with opera singers. Opera singers can have wildly different speaking voices from their singing voices. A great and most surprising example is the very hefty dramatic tenors, Mario Del Monaco and Franco Corelli who had these high and light tenor speaking voices. Coloratura soprano Beverly Sills had quite a deep and low speaking voice. Ettore Bastianini was a dramatic baritone with an incredible bass speaking voice. Whereas a baritone, Giangiacomo Guelfi who had one of the biggest and most dramatic baritone voices of all time, had a normal almost tenor speaking voice. Opera is a good place to dispel this myth of the speaking voice, because they sing with great technique.
Your videos and analysis has really freed my singing. Thank you for answering the questions I didn't know I needed to be asking.
Excellent video man... This is valuable not only for singers, but other voice artists also 🙌
Very interesting topic Chris! the past few nights I had very similar thoughts like how did I go from lower baritone to full Tenor/soprana range because I keep getting lower notes also 😅
when at first I was barely an octave solid with super 'nasal' high notes (learned how to lean in a lot more to that also from your videos help) to now hitting closer to the full four octaves after about 4 or 5 years of consistency with my voice! Just want to say how much your channel has stuck with me all these years it's good to see and hear you sharing creative thoughts like these! Many thanks 🙏🏼🎶
12:23 Switch to light mix "I believe I can fly". Note the wide mouth shape
Chris needs to do a video on jim Morrison please
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR CHRIS!!
Quite creepy when he gets into the head voice. Sounds like an evil leprechaun from an ancient Irish forest. Hahaha..
really fun and rewarding to try out :) thanks a lot for another great video!
You're welcome! 🙏
I know it's not 2006 and it might not garner the most views, but an analysis of Ville Valo of HIM might be very interesting and helpful on this topic.
VV's range is crazy. There's some bass-baritone sounding notes in the doomy songs, some falsetto in the romantic ones, and some gritty belted high notes in the heavier rock stuff. He's a great singer and I'd love to hear Chris' take on him. Great call 👍
@natewatchman totally! Just watched the Digital Versatile Doom live show after posting this. The fact that that band was Valo's singular vision, how he sings those songs and the level of charisma he has.. last real rock star in my book.
I’ve been hoping he does this for years now!
You have golden ears heart mind and throat sir.
Many other observations - I'd build on, here.
But I'll keep those to myself in my development.
Thanks again [and to you]
It always amazes me when I hear Geoff Tate or David Coverdale talk, such deep voices, yet they sing so high!
I will keep this in mind. Thank you once again sir.
Remember, language/accents play a HUGE role! I'm a Tenor and from the UK, my voice is light and thin, but I don't speak naturally as high a pitch like Americans.
Oh and also, that's NOT MJ's real speaking voice!
That upper chest voice you were doing is kinda the same one uses to talk to children and pets, as evidenced by the fact that my dog came over under the impression that I was talking to her. Haha.
I'm a baritone, and I discovered this by myself while trying to sing Tool songs from Fear Inoculum. Most of them were a huge help
I started choir as a baritone, as all my friends were singing lower and it was kinda embarrassing at the time wanting to sing a higher register. It stuck, and I sang baritone all the way through highschool and the first year of college. My choir director then asked me one practice, "have you ever tried tenor?" I said not really, and she was like "ok, you're a tenor now."
It was a great change. I can go decently low, especially if Im sick, but loved singing tenor. It fit my register a lot better. Havent sang in a while, but I'll happily sing tenor for the rest of my life.
That echoes my experience growing up too. In college in choir I was designated a baritone and started taking singing lessons but by the time I was leaving college they moved me to tenor because of my range and they needed more tenors too lol. I have a very broad range and my tessitura (mispelled) is comfortable more around middle C range.
Glad someone told you at the right time. Nothing annoys me more than hearing a natural tenor with a beautiful voice avoiding the higher notes because they think its unmanly.
voice stuff is so interesting! I'm something like a low baritone but I like to imitate lots of different singers (including women), & it's really kind of surprising just how many different sounds I can adopt. it's a lot of fun & I've learned a lot just trying to do what singers who seemingly don't sound like me are doing. I haven't figured out quite how to let my speaking voice be what it should be since it dropped (transmasc) & I'm sort of stuck keeping it much higher than it needs to be (half to even a full octave or so above where it should sit) which has been good for developing a high range in singing I think but as I recently discovered it means my low range is really undeveloped. it's a work in progress lol
Woow such a great video! I thought my voice had dropped since 2 years, but actually, now I have found it back, because I started to use heavier singing techniques those last two years and it really deepened my speaking voice or gave it way more "resonance" lower. My actual speaking voice used to lie right where yours is when you do the demonstration while "speaking" high. I find it so so cool to now have both again. Thank you soo much
I apologize for being impatient but I’m extremely eager to watch your reaction to MJ’s Remember the Time; his vocals on this track are one of the many reasons why it’s my favorite song of his
“I notice as I spend more time up here” made me lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 can you do the same video but for mezzo and sopranos.
Baritones are so much more pleasant to listen to. Always felt so.
I think it depends upon the material really
@@AtomizedSound I agree. It's actually unfortunate that we live in an age where baritones have to stray outside of their comfort zone and LARP as tenors to gain credibility. When baritones were allowed to just be baritones and operate within their wheelhouse (Frank Sinatra), pop music was so much more diverse and memorable.
@@TheeJordanRossi yes, that is certainly one takeaway.
@@TheeJordanRossiThey still can do that.
You can sing whatever is physically capable for you, you know?
My wife now thinks I’m went totally insane 😂
Ahahahaahahahahahahaha😂
So does this mean if I use a higher voice tone, overtime, my singing voice will be higher as well? My voice is naturally deep, but it tends to go a bit higher when I talk to people.
yes, mindfully practiced, that'd exactly what this means!
Just discovered your channel. Great stuff. Looking on how I can hone in my vocals. Thanks!
I hope this video helps you with your journey!
8:24 right around here 🕴🏻, not here 🦇🥷
PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE BARITONE VIDEOS THERES NOT ENOUGH ON TH-cam AND I ONLY LIKE YOUR VIDEOS ITS SO DIFFICULT BEING A BARITONE
I’ve done 5 or 6 of them on this channel. Hope you get a chance to check them out!
Chris, what an amazing lesson! Thank you so much for sharing!
Another thing to acknowledge is that most men are naturally baritones because men on average are taller now, of course there are exceptions but generally the taller you are the longer and lower the instrument will be. Most tenors are in the asian countries where people tend to be shorter. And tessitura will always be the biggest factor in determining fach, where could you comfortably sing and live.
I was a bass chorist in choirs for years. My vocal range at that time (18-24 years old) was between d2-f4. I left the choir, started focusing more on my voice as a vocalist, and worked on my high notes by improving my technique. I can now use the b1-a#4 range effectively. If I am not tired and if I warm my voice well, I can also go as high as d5. Almost all of these I mentioned are with chest voice (possibly a little bit of mixed voice after b4 and higher). I am currently trying to learn my head voice and produce more mixed voices. If you have any suggestions on this subject, I would love to hear them. For example, I cannot sing quiet f4 and higher notes. I think it's not normal, something should be missing in my technique.
The reason I have been pushing my voice to such highs for years is actually because my falsetto is much higher than the tenors around me, and this encouraged me. I have been able to sing G#5 as a falsetto for as long as I can remember.
Chris's course with Andy Cizek is well worth the money. Just throwing that out there
I'm a baritone. I realized this while growing up with Linkin Park, at one time I realized I couldn't sing Chester parts anymore. Not knowing what was happening to my voice, I forced my self and developed some bad habits. It's not helping that most of the popular songs are written in tenor range... But I'm working on it, managed to relax my voice a lot in recent years
Chris there’s an interesting video on Michael Jackson and how his voice is not really a natural tenor. They go obsessively into depth and detail about it using diagrams, and different clips of his, it’s very well done and edited, and really engaging. Since you cover his songs a lot in your videos I think you’ll find it very interesting, if you haven’t watched it already. I can’t send a link here because TH-cam doesn’t allow sharing links but I’m in the Discover Your Voice family so I can send it to you in the comments there if you like, or elsewhere, just let me know.
Great lesson thanks
Phenomenal training Chris! This makes so much sense amd is incredibly helpful! It made me wonder if I could train myself to tap into emotions by feeling different emotions in my body and making the sound they make and trying to sing in that sound. Like the sound of agony or grief, fear or joy. Does that make sense? 🤔
It makes perfect sense! I train my students to do exactly what you are describing with connecting emotions to how they feel in the body and then how they sound as a result of reacting how your voice FEELS !!
@chrisliepe Right on! That's very encouraging, thank you
This is verging on voice feminization! Love to see that you’re acknowledging and teaching it! 🩷
was thinking about this too!
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I'd be into more speaking/singing voice breakdowns e.g. thom yorke,michael stipe,axel rosee,george michael,freddy mercury. I think despite the deeper thicker sound stipe also has high harmonics in his spoken voice. George Michael I can't place, he has a warm thick sound in his spoken and sung voice despite being comfortable at tenor voice...freddy sounded baritone-ish speaking too.
You should do a video talking about the singer from dead poet society!
People say I have a low voice, but I can hit a C5 in chest, so it can't be that low lol
(Maybe it's a C4, I don't know my theory too well. It's pretty high up there though. I sound like a screaming child)
Great video
Good one man! When I started singing I was a light tenor. Then I decided I wanted more low end. My vocal coach helped me develop a new voice. It was done mostly by working on my speaking voice. It took much time but it happened and I was thrilled because of the flexibility and increased range but... I neglected the higher end of my voice. It has weakened so much now and I miss it.
Does anyone else struggle to maintain their range?
James Ingram redid that R Kelly song and gives one of the best version of the tune.
I'd love to see a video about Russell Hitchcock from Air Supply
I agree with you he is a true tenor and a legit counternor!
As someone else also mentioned this is actually a big part of the process of trans voice training. Since I myself am both a singer and trans it's interesting how much common ground there is.
I came here to say just this!
I would really like to hear how far have you reached transitioning your voice, cause Ive heard some examples of how „woman-like“ even certain baritones can sound, thats mindblowing.
Michael being in his (probably) natural speaking register: th-cam.com/users/shortsFjjHf_wU-KI?si=VZhtYUcka2R85YEh
th-cam.com/video/GUafRw3jWFs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jOsNH9K9e4-YcTN5
Wings of Pegasus who was once on Liepe's channel for Human nature has a full video about MJ's speaking voice. In the video you chosed MJ was 38,39 yrs old. His vocal coach said that the voices are maturing with us. In the clip chosen by Liepe, MJ was 21 yrs old. If we listen his interviews 8 yrs later his voice was lower, but the tone used was soft.
My voice is baritone I believe but for some reason I mix *A LOT* naturally. I wish I knew my true vocal type. Around A4 I'm a little more heady but you can hear some chest in there
I didn’t hear high voices out of the two first dudes. I heard medium to low. I have a relatively high voice for a male and a small range sadly.
Should it feel like your straining when you do it the first few times, also how long does it take for it to take a good effect?
Great video. All your explaining and demonstrating is so true. That’s what I love about your approach to vocals. Ko limits and no boundaries to what you can do with your voice.
This is what I did. I wanted to sing like roy khan so bad so I pushed and pushed. A2 to C5 now lol
Your head voice talking is really funny for some reason😂 it helps allot to do this though, also Chris could you do a video on Flagolet? I know it's creaky door exercise and fry and all that, I can get so close to Flagolet or whatever you would call it, high head voice? I'm getting so close but I'm missing a placement i think . Anyways good stuff as always dude😊
So, I would put myself in that higher baritone range for my "resting tone," but with falsetto I can hit a D7 (don't ask me how I don't know lol). My question is, how do I add compression with my mixed voice to singer higher notes without sounding like Toad 😩
some of it is compression, yes, but it's really about discovering different placements via character and resonance studies that will help you sound any way you want to in any part of your range. I help you do exactly this in weeks 3 and 4 of my course Discover Your Voice. You can request an invite at chrisliepe.com if you're interested in learning more about the program :)
I can go from baritone range to whistles and off stage I’m self conscious about low voice or morning voice. I’m so happy I speak higher than almost all my favorite singers sometimes I find myself doing the Michael Jackson thing haha. Lots of transgender people do this and I want to know if it can permanently heighten your baseline pitch and if there is possibly any such technique that can change the location of your breaks especially if you have more than one passagio
Baritone here. About three years ago, during the whole covid thing I got sick with pneumonia and was fighting the consequences for a month+. Couldn't stop coughing. Afterwards found out that my access to the head voice is entirely gone. Any attempt to flip into it just ended with me whispering, sometimes even while talking the vocal cords would disconnect for a moment. After working on it I have regained the ability to sing some high notes (practically reach my limit of B3-C4), through humming first, but trying to actually sing and sustain them comes with a lot of effort and a lot of air. The sound just doesn't come out unless I push it.
Any tips?
Stop pushing! Try a very gentle and low volume vocal fry from the very bottom of your range to your upper range. Try to imagine its a zipper (you’re bringing your cords together in a gentle way and conditioning it trough repetition) it must feel like a vocal folds massage. Do this for a bit every day.
I had the same problem shortly after one of the times I got COVID. I had to re learn the muscle coordinations to access my head voice. It was a little scary, but because I knew how to rediscover those muscle memories, I was able to train it back in about 3 weeks. It took a lot of speech level training and breathing to bring it back. I can help you do this in the first few weeks of my course Discover Your Voice. You can request an invite at chrisliepe.com if you're interested :)
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I was amazed when I heard certain singers speaking so much lower than they sing. Maybe they were just keeping themselves in a voice preservation mode?
I think it’s mostly nurture, it’s a fact that women’s voices have dropped about an octave the past couple of decades. I don’t think the vocal cords have changed it’s all placement.
I'm something like a baritone myself
Hopefully this helps with my tone. I hate my singing tone. I feel like there’s no substance or any richness to my singing voice.
Hey, baritone here. I am a baritone and I really want to be a tenor. My range is F#2 - E4, and I want to have a tenor range. If I change my speaking voice from speaking like "on the ground" to kind of a mixed voice, how much change would it make? And how long is it going to take? I'm already doing it (day 1), and I'd like to know how much time this will take :)
Chris Cornell was a tenor who artificially darkened his voice.
Google says he's a baritone, that was my whole point of this video. We can argue and people will argue all day long about who is what. It's the never ending pointless argument. Stop paying attention to the labels and work on the opportunities with your own voice. Forget the typecasts and labels. On your voice and on others voices.
I don't think that's true.Whats the evidence for 'faking' his speaking voice? It doesnt even sound in character for the man. additionallyy his high notes are exclusively in mix, chesty belting was absent from his sound
@@chrisliepe There’s no endless debate here-voices can be classified based on their sound, and no matter what you do with your tone, it will always sound like what you are: tenor, baritone, or bass. There’s no way to change this. In your case, Chris, it’s evident that you’re a tenor. Listen to your harmonics-part of them are similar to Cornell’s, right? And Cornell’s harmonics are similar to Myles Kennedy’s, aren’t they? It’s obvious that Kennedy is a tenor.
@@RicardoOlivares-f1x lol this guy is full of confirmation bias and self-fulfilling prophecies, no point even trying to reason with him. Blatantly obvious tenor that has voice dysmorphia and tries to convince himself he's a "baritone".
Ok, but we know for a fact that a lot of stars put on voices for interviews. Both Michael and Prince are legendary for personal acquaintances attesting to them having much deeper voices than the ones they showed the public. It seems in the clip for Chris Cornell you shared he was intentionally trying to be as low as possible to sound cool but he had some breaks where he went higher. So it's not accurate to say that forcing yourself to talk a certain way is how these guys gained greater vocal flexibility, because it's likely most of the time they talked the other way, the way you don't see on camera.
Do you have the opposite video? I'm a tenor and want to sing lower notes.
cheers.
I cover exactly that in this video towards the back half.
Chris liepe linkin park just dropped their new song
"Two Faced" and you just HAVE to hear this one...
YEP!!! Just finished making a video on it! Should be up first thing in the morning! :) It was KILLER
Dude, when you did MJ you sounded like Morty! :D
I love your videos !!! Have you reacted to ados usseewa piano version?
Yes but it’s not up yet. I’ll post it soon :) there’s been so much new music from her lately it’s been difficult to keep up! Haha
@@chrisliepe that's so exciting! She is really active lately. I can't wait to see it!
Since I am not an expert I just hear a bunch of masculin voices. 😅 M. J. is the only one that sounds like a teenager. As I mentioned in the past, I prefer lower masculin voice type. It sounds "fuller", warmer.
Can you do a reverse of this? Tenor to a baritone?
I covered that very topic later in THIS video… how to go the other way!
@ yeaaa, i noticed when i was watching, but made the comment in the begining xD
Cheers dude, love the content!
How about include Russell Hitchcock and Steve Perry!
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This video is also informative to young men & women who are going through puberty and or LGBT or trans individuals because very few people talk about where we place our voices when speaking in general conversations. It's insane how many small things like this about our bodies that we don't think about or talk about. I don't think people understand this is exactly what Ariana Grande has always done too.
You should have watched a few Claudio Sanchez videos that dude talks lower than he seems like he would
Love Claudio!! You’re right!
Michael Jackson hid his real voice he was a baritone. He had a really deep voice
That’s the whole point of including him here. By doing what I suggest in this video he was able to convince google to classify him as a tenor and have his voice do all sorts of things in tenor ways even though he had a naturally lower voice.
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Cool lesson! Also might be useful for trans people :3
Thank you for another amazing video. Please react to a new single released by Linkin Park "Two Faced".
Video will be up first thing tomorrow morning :)
First of all, there are many kinds of tenor voices. So speaking voices have a very limited impact on the range of the voice. Speaking and singing are very different.
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Michael is a baritone that’s what Seth Riggs said
Yep, but he trained tenor tendencies into his voice. That’s why he’s included in this video!
theres another video on a channel analysing michaels warm ups. It showed he had a certain comfort lower. than your typical tenor but he didnt really seem comfortable at the lower end of baritone range at all
cornell pushes his voice lower when he speaks
maybe but he also just sounds like he has a baritone speaking voice. You cant really fake having thicker co-ordination beyond a certain point
Pretty sure Jim Morrison is a baritone.
Yes he is. He's in the baritone section in this very video. As is Chris Cornell.
@@chrisliepe oh sry my bad. also I didn't know Chris was a baritone always assumed he was a tenor. thx for the info
Chris Cornell was not a baritone, he was a spinto tenor, a sort of low tenor, as other singers like Freddie Mercury, Dee Snider, Roger Daltrey
... Morrison was a baritone though @@V.Cole111
@@chrisliepe Chris like Michael stipe seems to have higher harmonics or flips at times despite the baritone sound, at least thats what i hear.
@@Vosraider his speaking voice sounds uncontroversially baritone. Virtually all his higher notes are very much in mixed voice. I''m not buying Cornell as a tenor despite the beefy mixed voice...just naturally gifted
Lol Chris, we don't sing R Kelly anymore! He's not cool.
Sorry :)
Michaels voice wasn't natural.