If you heard me say ''Tabarnak'' a lot, here is the definition for the non quebecois folks out here ahahahah! TABARNAK! (f*ck!) It bears repeating because it’s a common misconception: the Québécois don’t swear by saying tabernacle; they swear by saying tabarnak. The swear word tabarnak comes from tabernacle, yes, but tabernacle is reserved for referring to an actual tabernacle. Pay close attention to the differences between the two words: tabernacle and tabarnak. The swear word tabarnak has an a in the middle (not an e), and there’s no le on the end.
I feed a brake cable through first for internal cabling then tape the di2 cable to the end of it and gently pull it through....loads more control (especially for getting round corners and through holes at the other end) - it saves hours.
Bonjour Charles. Thanks for this honest and very good video. Tools, tools, tools. Also, Hambini points out that one of the big problems with carbon bikes is that the frames are not true and that is why most of the problems with bottom brackets.
Man I feel you. I bought the same bike from a team that folded. I'm currently changing the cockpit and running in all sorts of problems on the way. Your video definitely helped me so I know I'm not alone ;-)
Bare foot, on the couch, with your TT frame, wrenching out a stuck cable…..time to re-evaluate some of those life choices! 🤣🤣🤣 Charles, love the content! I used string and washers for weight to guide the string through handle bars and frame on my first Di2 install. Went to AliExpress, $8, magnetic install kit. 👍 Also, recommend Dire Straits and bourbon, tools for you, that TT bike needs a little finessing, not manhandling. 🤣
I came across this video looking for tips on packing my plasma for a flight. I built it myself too. I used sram so not as much issue with cables, just the blip cables. That front brake is a nightmare though. Great video man 👍🏼
I recently built a bike with complicated internal cabling and the Jagwire Pro Internal Routing tool was a life saver. Cables only took about 30min for the whole bike and the tool only costs €25. Defo would recommend.
Super vidéo Charles ! Tu as eu le sang froid et beaucoup de patience. Merci d'avoir fait une video pour expliquer toutes tes galères ! Mais maintenant va péter les chronos avec cette machine !!
Great video. It took me a full day building my Giant Trinity and like you, I had the synchro shit, which I hate, so I bought the regular 2 buttons and pass cables again, cut one of them with a saw trying to comply with the UCI rules. Thankfully some mistakes can be undone, but building a fully integrated TT bikes takes a load of patience.
Etap on TT isn’t fully wireless, the shifters have cables that plug into a junction box which is really hard to hide on a Scott plasma and can end up looking messy
You're right about the TT bike being so much more difficult! I have installed several road groups over the years, including Di2 and Ive always thought it fun. Until I decided to change the cockpit on my TT bike OMFG!!! Never again!!! And thats mechanical. Such a pain with the routing
Also my latest mishap. I wanted to re-grease my assioma pedals. So i started talking them apart. The left was easy. The right pedal has a reverse thread nut. What did i do? Of course i stripped it. I had to cut the pedal body off and the nut off. Luckily the power meter spindle is ok. Just have to replace the pedal body. The things you learn being your own mechanic. 😅
I like Shimano best, but on my Cervelo P4 i dint even try to go with di2. Soooo installed Sram AXS instead. Easyest i ever done. Used only rear der and blips. thath was it
ahah it does have more cable than mechanical!! The 2021/2021 groupset will be semi wireless from the leaks. Wireless shifters, but still internal battery with a cable that goes to the FD and RD
So I don’t comment on videos but I felt your pain here... I had a similar routing issue with my Emonda after rounding an Allen key which allowed me to route cables through the frame... hours of fucking about and costing myself more money... makes it all the sweeter though once it’s done 😂
Comment more then :p ahah yeah man. I literally just fixed the big issue of the 2 cable cutted. I re-wired the right side. Took me a solid 2 hours lol. But now it's fixed and I'll be riping it tomorow!!!
Sounds like you need a fundraiser for an internal routing kit after all the stuff that must be replaced. But keep your head up, I think there isn't a single home mechanic out there that has not suffered from a similar situation.
@@CharlesOuimet Just keep up with your content. One of the reasons why I like your vids so much is your passion. And in this video you really showed a lot of it!
Hello Charles, super cool de t'entendre jurer en Québécois pour moi frenchie qui adore votre accent mais surtout vos jurons. Clairement si je me lance dans un TT bike build, je partirai sur du sram suite à ta vidéo. J'ai remplacé mon guidon sur mon Giant TCX par un guidon aéro full intégré et le di2 m'a déjà bien énervé ! Super vidéo. Merci et profite bien de ton Scott Plasma. Ps: tout ces câbles coupés viennent d'un mauvais routing de ta part ou plutôt de la complexité du vélo?
Merci Julien! Je crois c'est un mix des deux. L'espace entre la vis du cockpit ainsi que le trou pour les fil est extrèmement petit, je devrais utiliser un petit baton très mince pour déplacer les fil à l'avenir avant de sérré la vis!
Building a bike from scratch is not straightforward, especially if you don’t do it everyday. However, having all the tools you need before you start the project, makes it less stressful. 🤔😏😏
@@CharlesOuimet It’s a learning experience and all these issues you have, if you can solve them will make you a much more competent bike mechanic and will give you the confidence to problem solve issues in the future.
PS. I’ve just built up my own titanium road bike from scratch. Big issues with the callipers, as I had to dismantle them completely and then rebuild. Also converted the road 11speed to 12 speed and did a mullet conversion to eagle rear with 12 speed cassette. I have a couple pictures on Instagram of my build if your interested. Building your own bike gives you such satisfaction with the outcome especially if it looks good too 😊😊😉
I would say most of these problems are TT-bike specific problems. I'm not a good mechanic at all but after my last visit to a bikeshop left me frustrated (didn't fix my problem although I did pay for it) I now do most of it myself and I've put a a few roadbikes together (1 with di2) without much problems (I do have the jagwire internal routing tool), don't know about Hambini's BB's but normal Shimano pressfit BB's are easy to uninstall/install. Anyways I just hope that other brands will follow the Aethos route and stop with so much integration (or "update" their bikes with it), this is cool for racing and TT's but I don't care about 2 watts if it takes an hour extra to work on a bike!
@@CharlesOuimet for you maybe but most people aren't racing, so for them/me it's just an annoyance that shouldn't be dealt with. Don't forget that only a very small percentage of people buying roadbikes (not talking about TT-bikes) are racing them, for the rest of us even 15 watts doesn't matter, we just want to have fun on the bike and don't want to put in hours waisting on maintenance (and I even like working on my bike) but want more time for a beer!
Hello Charles, for the battery you could probably take measurements on the seat post and of the battery and 3D print a holder for the battery! I'm in Montreal so I could help you with measurements and conception, hit me up if you need any help with that!
So I don’t comment on videos but I felt your pain here... I had a similar routing issue with my Emonda and rounding the cap allowing me to route cables through the frame... hours of fucking about and costing myself more money...
@@cosinus_square shifting speed, accuracy and durability. It's known but everyone that di2 is one step ahead of etap in that part. BUT definitely not in the install part ahah
@@CharlesOuimet Lol, when shifting stops completely because of frayed wires, etap is def faster. Etap tested a few ms slower for the front derailleur because of the front derailleur shifting layout. Unless you're in a shifting competition while racing, the shifting speed between the 2 is imperceptible. I remember when Lance used a dowtube shifter for the front derailleur and an STI for the rear at the TdF, just to put in perspective the importance of the front derailleur.
@@CharlesOuimet Just finished it lol....man I'm so sorry that was such a shitshow. I honestly think it would have been the exact same shitshow for a pro mechanic to build too. Might not have ended in failure on your ride if a pro mechanic did it but all those jackpots would have been just as shitty to solve for them. So glad you didn't break the bike lol
you don't need to be a professional mechanic to build a bike, just use common sense, check those build videos and pay attention to those moving parts. Don't rush.. relax... take a break and then continue with a fresh mind until your done.
Why did you start the project not knowing basics, for example you need magnets to pull cables through, junction boxes for connecting shifters, battery and derailleurs and so on.
everything you mentionned is not ''basics'' it's advanced. I do have all the basic knowledge, and now, a few days later, I am proud to have finished this build!
@@CharlesOuimet Its the "once in place"-thing I dont get, haha. But if it shifts better than Sram is a matter of opinion I think. Little bit funny to see you putting it into place. Not the usual youtuber where everything is like roses and diamonds, haha. Thats why I like your channel. Keep it up.
This is exactly why I moved away from di2 and bought a sram force axs groups for my rim brake road bike. It’s not you. It’s that di2 is shit. Shimano is years behind sram wireless.
@@CharlesOuimet that's what people keep saying but I don't find it to be true. Shifting on the force axs is beautiful and no delay like there was on the 11 speed etap.
Gotta agree, personally I don't like sram, might be fully wireless but looks chunky and you have to mess about with more coin cell batteries. I love my Ultegra Di2. I had an issue with mine not working too but it was just a cable pullled to tight which eventually dislodged from the connection. Easy fix. Great video man
Hands down this bike and the venge vias was the hardest bikes I ever built!!! I give you a ton of respect for that build and not quoting
thanks brother!!!
Are these frames also mechanical groupset compatible?
Well, I did tell you to measure the hole before you put it in! Scott are generally undersized
But well done for persevering. I would have said more expletives
you are right it was slighly undersized, but worked out!
Scott are not liked by mechanics
This is what mechanic friends and bike shops are for.
ahahah exactly!
If you heard me say ''Tabarnak'' a lot, here is the definition for the non quebecois folks out here ahahahah!
TABARNAK! (f*ck!)
It bears repeating because it’s a common misconception: the Québécois don’t swear by saying tabernacle; they swear by saying tabarnak. The swear word tabarnak comes from tabernacle, yes, but tabernacle is reserved for referring to an actual tabernacle. Pay close attention to the differences between the two words: tabernacle and tabarnak. The swear word tabarnak has an a in the middle (not an e), and there’s no le on the end.
ha ha, every time I heard you say "tabarnak" reminded me of growing up in Ottawa
I feed a brake cable through first for internal cabling then tape the di2 cable to the end of it and gently pull it through....loads more control (especially for getting round corners and through holes at the other end) - it saves hours.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing man
Exactly what I do also
When you watch those dream build videos they make it look so easy. We'll done for giving it a go though more patience than me I got to say.
yeah man they definitely make it look easy!!! Thank you so much
Bonjour Charles. Thanks for this honest and very good video. Tools, tools, tools. Also, Hambini points out that one of the big problems with carbon bikes is that the frames are not true and that is why most of the problems with bottom brackets.
thanks man! yeah having good tools help a lot
Man I feel you. I bought the same bike from a team that folded. I'm currently changing the cockpit and running in all sorts of problems on the way. Your video definitely helped me so I know I'm not alone ;-)
hope you got it!!!
Bare foot, on the couch, with your TT frame, wrenching out a stuck cable…..time to re-evaluate some of those life choices! 🤣🤣🤣 Charles, love the content! I used string and washers for weight to guide the string through handle bars and frame on my first Di2 install. Went to AliExpress, $8, magnetic install kit. 👍 Also, recommend Dire Straits and bourbon, tools for you, that TT bike needs a little finessing, not manhandling. 🤣
ahahhaah ya man, cool thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!
I always wondered why people take bikes to the shops to service them... i guess this video shows why 🤣👍
yup :p but right now bikes shops are soooo busy, they didn't had time for a complicated TT build like this one
I came across this video looking for tips on packing my plasma for a flight. I built it myself too. I used sram so not as much issue with cables, just the blip cables.
That front brake is a nightmare though.
Great video man 👍🏼
this mans got a loose battery, soldered di2 cables, and a velcroed junction box T.T god bless ur soul
AHAHAH everything is safe I promise!
I built a boardman air with the di2 battery in the seat post with craft puddy 😍
I recently built a bike with complicated internal cabling and the Jagwire Pro Internal Routing tool was a life saver. Cables only took about 30min for the whole bike and the tool only costs €25. Defo would recommend.
yeah ordering one soon!!
Super vidéo Charles ! Tu as eu le sang froid et beaucoup de patience. Merci d'avoir fait une video pour expliquer toutes tes galères ! Mais maintenant va péter les chronos avec cette machine !!
Ahah merci!! Oui c'est le but de cette fusée 🚀
Great video. It took me a full day building my Giant Trinity and like you, I had the synchro shit, which I hate, so I bought the regular 2 buttons and pass cables again, cut one of them with a saw trying to comply with the UCI rules. Thankfully some mistakes can be undone, but building a fully integrated TT bikes takes a load of patience.
thanks JM, yeah it wasn't easy, but so worth it in the end!!
This video made me chuckle. You got there in the end.
yeaaah man
All I have for you is two words Sram E-tap.
Ahahah yup
i do agree with you!!!! i did it a few months ago(Force 2X12V))!it is magic!bomb!!!!
Etap on TT isn’t fully wireless, the shifters have cables that plug into a junction box which is really hard to hide on a Scott plasma and can end up looking messy
Did you buy the frame on Bike Exchange? And if so did it come with stem and bars
ProOwnedCycling ! Yes it came with stem bar and saddle
You're right about the TT bike being so much more difficult! I have installed several road groups over the years, including Di2 and Ive always thought it fun. Until I decided to change the cockpit on my TT bike OMFG!!! Never again!!! And thats mechanical. Such a pain with the routing
ahah yeah man!! TT bikes are a whole different kind, so much harder
Great presentation. Sorry for you but glad to see I am not alone! Thank you.
ahah yes!!
Also my latest mishap. I wanted to re-grease my assioma pedals. So i started talking them apart. The left was easy. The right pedal has a reverse thread nut. What did i do? Of course i stripped it. I had to cut the pedal body off and the nut off. Luckily the power meter spindle is ok. Just have to replace the pedal body. The things you learn being your own mechanic. 😅
ahah damn that's a costly mistake too!!
I like Shimano best, but on my Cervelo P4 i dint even try to go with di2. Soooo installed Sram AXS instead. Easyest i ever done. Used only rear der and blips. thath was it
Great share dude! Anyone who's built a bike knows the pains.
yeah mann ,thanks for watching!!
I'm still waiting on my di2 and frame. Will definitely be bringing it in to my LBS😅
ahahah good call bud
Seems like electronic groupset got more cable than mechanical.
When will Shimano goes full wireless?
ahah it does have more cable than mechanical!!
The 2021/2021 groupset will be semi wireless from the leaks. Wireless shifters, but still internal battery with a cable that goes to the FD and RD
@@CharlesOuimet if to upgrade to electronic, I'll go SRAM.... and I don't need to change to Di2 compatible frame and looks clean AF.
@@bobtahar i did it! it is magic !!!
shimano routing magnet kit is a must.
yup, ordering one now ahah
Thanks for sharing!
thanks for watching man!!
Hi I’m thinking of getting this frame from preowned. Is it worth it or is it more trouble building it up than it’s worth?
Thanks
Super nice bike! Just bring it to a pro mechanic 😂
I messed up my Winspace build too and had to get a pro to intervene. It happens to the best of us.
ahaha yes :(
We’re did you get that Scott manual from
Add link please 🙌
s3.amazonaws.com/assets.scott-sports.com/manuals/15bike/2015_Plasma5_EN_complete.pdf
Are you going to ask ProOwnshop (the supplier of the bike) for the battery and seat junction box bracket?
I'll see yes!
@@CharlesOuimet fingers crossed for you 🤞
TIL - Tabarnak and to continue my biased search for AXS groupset to swap from my mechanical Shimano.
Ahahha 😁
So I don’t comment on videos but I felt your pain here... I had a similar routing issue with my Emonda after rounding an Allen key which allowed me to route cables through the frame... hours of fucking about and costing myself more money... makes it all the sweeter though once it’s done 😂
Comment more then :p ahah yeah man. I literally just fixed the big issue of the 2 cable cutted. I re-wired the right side. Took me a solid 2 hours lol. But now it's fixed and I'll be riping it tomorow!!!
Sounds like you need a fundraiser for an internal routing kit after all the stuff that must be replaced. But keep your head up, I think there isn't a single home mechanic out there that has not suffered from a similar situation.
Thank you man, yeah definitely will invest in a internal routing kit
@@CharlesOuimet Just keep up with your content. One of the reasons why I like your vids so much is your passion. And in this video you really showed a lot of it!
@@manueldeubler1127 thank you man!!
Hey how did you manage to buy a team bike? i know ridiculous discounted price, Merci
directly on pro owned cycling website!
SRAM etap Charles 😂🤣
MAN I wish I went that route.... but when you have a fully functioning Di2, it's so much better than etap!
Only in some functions but no internal battery's and cables 👌
It's not just amateurs ... check out Cam Nicholls Factor build today !
you're right!!
I know my limits and don't go past them without training. The bad experience with a car 35 years ago taught me that. Good luck.
thanks man!
Hello Charles, super cool de t'entendre jurer en Québécois pour moi frenchie qui adore votre accent mais surtout vos jurons. Clairement si je me lance dans un TT bike build, je partirai sur du sram suite à ta vidéo. J'ai remplacé mon guidon sur mon Giant TCX par un guidon aéro full intégré et le di2 m'a déjà bien énervé ! Super vidéo. Merci et profite bien de ton Scott Plasma. Ps: tout ces câbles coupés viennent d'un mauvais routing de ta part ou plutôt de la complexité du vélo?
Merci Julien!
Je crois c'est un mix des deux. L'espace entre la vis du cockpit ainsi que le trou pour les fil est extrèmement petit, je devrais utiliser un petit baton très mince pour déplacer les fil à l'avenir avant de sérré la vis!
Charles be like ,"God I would have given the win to the Sram," ..if u know u know😂😂😂😂😉
AHAHAHA YES!!!
Building a bike from scratch is not straightforward, especially if you don’t do it everyday.
However, having all the tools you need before you start the project, makes it less stressful. 🤔😏😏
yeah that's for sure!!
@@CharlesOuimet It’s a learning experience and all these issues you have, if you can solve them will make you a much more competent bike mechanic and will give you the confidence to problem solve issues in the future.
PS. I’ve just built up my own titanium road bike from scratch. Big issues with the callipers, as I had to dismantle them completely and then rebuild.
Also converted the road 11speed to 12 speed and did a mullet conversion to eagle rear with 12 speed cassette.
I have a couple pictures on Instagram of my build if your interested.
Building your own bike gives you such satisfaction with the outcome especially if it looks good too 😊😊😉
@@bikepackingadventure7913 agreed! sure send the photos over to my DMs, I'll take a look
cheers man
I would say most of these problems are TT-bike specific problems.
I'm not a good mechanic at all but after my last visit to a bikeshop left me frustrated (didn't fix my problem although I did pay for it) I now do most of it myself and I've put a a few roadbikes together (1 with di2) without much problems (I do have the jagwire internal routing tool), don't know about Hambini's BB's but normal Shimano pressfit BB's are easy to uninstall/install.
Anyways I just hope that other brands will follow the Aethos route and stop with so much integration (or "update" their bikes with it), this is cool for racing and TT's but I don't care about 2 watts if it takes an hour extra to work on a bike!
well if those 2 watts ads up for every improvement, it's totally worth the extra work at the beginning in my opinion!!
Thanks for sharing man
@@CharlesOuimet for you maybe but most people aren't racing, so for them/me it's just an annoyance that shouldn't be dealt with. Don't forget that only a very small percentage of people buying roadbikes (not talking about TT-bikes) are racing them, for the rest of us even 15 watts doesn't matter, we just want to have fun on the bike and don't want to put in hours waisting on maintenance (and I even like working on my bike) but want more time for a beer!
Really sorry to hear your struggles ((
Proprietary parts always suck.
Hope you will like your TT experience anyways.
thank you man!!
Use a plastic bubble package for the battery.
I said tape, but actually used the soft side of velcro strips! But good idea on the plastic bubble package, I'll swap it
Hello Charles, for the battery you could probably take measurements on the seat post and of the battery and 3D print a holder for the battery! I'm in Montreal so I could help you with measurements and conception, hit me up if you need any help with that!
Thanks man!! So far it's allright in there soo.... if it aint broke, dont fix it :p
@@CharlesOuimet hahaha I feel you !
So I don’t comment on videos but I felt your pain here... I had a similar routing issue with my Emonda and rounding the cap allowing me to route cables through the frame... hours of fucking about and costing myself more money...
ye
Get an internal cable routing kit. It'll add years to your life (or preserve them).
ahahah agreed!!
Tri bikes are finicky. My di2 battery just sits in the down tube. There is so much space in there.
yeah man, they are so hard!
how much did it all cost, great video by the way
Retail of a bike like this would be around the 6-8K usd
This is it, this is the ultimate of first world problems caught on camera 🤣. Everytime someone is sad about Di2 😂🤣 it's too funny.
Ahahahhahah yup🤣🤣🤣
Let's see any update when she is finished and ready to roll.
electronic what? *laughts in bar end friction shifting*
to be honest, etap sound pretty good right now.
ahah it does, but etap is not as good as di2 once it's setup :p
@@CharlesOuimet how do you quantify 'not as good'?
@@cosinus_square shifting speed, accuracy and durability. It's known but everyone that di2 is one step ahead of etap in that part. BUT definitely not in the install part ahah
@@CharlesOuimet Lol, when shifting stops completely because of frayed wires, etap is def faster.
Etap tested a few ms slower for the front derailleur because of the front derailleur shifting layout. Unless you're in a shifting competition while racing, the shifting speed between the 2 is imperceptible. I remember when Lance used a dowtube shifter for the front derailleur and an STI for the rear at the TdF, just to put in perspective the importance of the front derailleur.
chacun son métier comme on dit !
Oui ahah 😬😬
i just think that china also have a good time trial bike..from the brand name is pardus.. pro team also use that..
cool i'll check it out!
Education cost time and money but now you known your bike inside out. I built my bike over winter. I wouldn't have it any other way.
exactly!!
00:12 fucking lol Charles!
that's what happen when the boys are busy!!!
OH NO!!!!!! Haven't watched yet but hopefully it doesn't end with an oh no lol
LOL, it does kinda end OK
@@CharlesOuimet Just finished it lol....man I'm so sorry that was such a shitshow. I honestly think it would have been the exact same shitshow for a pro mechanic to build too. Might not have ended in failure on your ride if a pro mechanic did it but all those jackpots would have been just as shitty to solve for them. So glad you didn't break the bike lol
If you are going to build a Di2 TT bike, don't complain if you do not invest in all the required tooling.
Not complaining, simply showing my process ahah
That face when you fix something you properly fucked up yourself, I know it well 😂 Also, AliExpress do some cheap routing kits 👍
good to know!
Doing mechanic can induce some Tabarnak
Ahahahhahah yes!!
you don't need to be a professional mechanic to build a bike, just use common sense, check those build videos and pay attention to those moving parts. Don't rush.. relax... take a break and then continue with a fresh mind until your done.
exactly ! Also need lots of tools!
The mistake you made was thinking a TT frame would be fun and easy . At least it wasn't a cervelo p3 or p2 or p5
ahah yeah :p
@@CharlesOuimet I work in a TT and Triathlon specific bike shop . TT bikes are awfully designed .
@@edmundscycles1 ahahah agreed
moral of this video is NOT to buy frames from pros:)
not really man!! buying an old pro bike means a better price for sure :P I'M just not a good mechanic :p
Why did you start the project not knowing basics, for example you need magnets to pull cables through, junction boxes for connecting shifters, battery and derailleurs and so on.
everything you mentionned is not ''basics'' it's advanced. I do have all the basic knowledge, and now, a few days later, I am proud to have finished this build!
C’est l’enfer passer des câbles ds un bike de TT. ETAP
yup ahah
Why do people really want to go for Di2? I really dont get it. Its like begging for trouble. Cables, boxes and batteries all over the place.
because once in place, nothing shift as good as di2!
@@CharlesOuimet Its the "once in place"-thing I dont get, haha. But if it shifts better than Sram is a matter of opinion I think. Little bit funny to see you putting it into place. Not the usual youtuber where everything is like roses and diamonds, haha. Thats why I like your channel. Keep it up.
This is exactly why I moved away from di2 and bought a sram force axs groups for my rim brake road bike. It’s not you. It’s that di2 is shit. Shimano is years behind sram wireless.
true! But shimano shifting is actually better!
@@CharlesOuimet that's what people keep saying but I don't find it to be true. Shifting on the force axs is beautiful and no delay like there was on the 11 speed etap.
Gotta agree, personally I don't like sram, might be fully wireless but looks chunky and you have to mess about with more coin cell batteries. I love my Ultegra Di2.
I had an issue with mine not working too but it was just a cable pullled to tight which eventually dislodged from the connection. Easy fix. Great video man
Di2 LOL Mechanical > Di2
maybe for install, but nothing beats the shifting accuracy and reliability of Di2!