I'm pretty sure I might be seeing things in some of those images...but we've finally got some hints towards the Soul King's past! What do you think is going on in those images, and with lchigo's training on Irazusando? Let me know!
It was himself. Division zero enemy was Division 13. Using Urahara and Aizen rivalry, they planning to revive soul king in a new body which we know as Ichigo. Ichigo destroyed soul king body because he didnt need his old body(spoiler).
We see the limbs but never accounted for the legs. Was the Quincy King the legs of the soul king destined to re-United the other pieces and march towards the soul king and be once again reabsorbed with Reio? Thus completing the souls kings body again. Ultimately, the new soul king is in fact just a reincarnation of that last who’s fate became the same.
And even if ichigo fought the SS again the captains would just end up in hell, upsetting the balance thus ichigo and co would just have to fight them again
@@cousin_of_dora true but you heard the warning Ginjo gave ichigo. If he said "nah I'm not going to help you guys anymore" kenpachi, renji, byakuya, toshiro and ikkaku were going to FORCE him back.
He basically just saw flashes without no context whatsoever. Basically like anime onlies also seeing those flashes will have no clue of the context of said images. The real change would be if Ichibe actually will explain those flashes to Ichigo but I doubt that he will.
I really enjoy how the anime is actually letting us see Ichigo's training in the soul palace. It really gave us a full grasp of what Ichigo might be capable of. Unlike the manga where it felt like he was underused during the tybw arc. Now let's hope we see him actually do more with this power.
@@allworksnew I not in denial. You on the other hand are being delusional. Plus that scenario was his to begin with so they will probably change it a bit in the anime
I wanted to bring this up a while ago. Yhwach's final word in the story was "Zangetsu" before the sword cut him. What if the Soul King's real name is....wait for it....ZANGETSU and the sword of fate the Soul King holds in the water ends up being the same shape as Ichigo's original Zangetsu from before? Ichibei had blacked out the name earlier in the story. Just imagine!
Just because Reio didn't consent to the dismemberment, doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't see it coming. If he was already willing to seal himself away, and his powers were equal to or greater than Ywach's, then I would be so bold as to make the assumption that he was perfectly capable of stopping his dismemberment, but rather felt that if that's what the noble houses needed to put their minds at ease during the sealing ceremony, then so be it. The good, at least in Reios (many) eyes, far outweighed the assured anguish and torment that was being dismembered.
He could've easily stopped them but he did nothing. He probably weighed the options and thought their plan was acceptable. It must have been terrifying for the nobles knowing he could be like, yeah I'm done.
@@maliktp13That is the thing, a lot of people try to settle on a definitive perspective of how the Reio personally took these events. And jump the gone and spread it around like facts. Even in the novels the story are told not the Reio himselves so a lot of it are those character self prohecting on what might they feel if they were in Reio's shoes. So evem now we could only go by how we personally interpret it.
All aside, I read somewhere I can't remember That soul king is made more of spiritual matter than physical matter and no question about it has immense spiritual pressure but despite all that power he is incapable of defending himself for some reason. Again I dont remember the whole explaination but this was the gist of it. What do you guys think?
If we do get to see the Original Sin, I hope the Tsunayashiro Ancestor is revealed to be an absolute Gremlin. Like a awful person to the point that even the other Ancestors are like:"...Bruh..."
Indeed. If CFYOW is animated Tokinada will instantly become the single most unabashedly evil character in the saga. Unsurprisingly he pointed out to Yoruichi and Soifon that the other nobles would happily join him in his aggressive war of conquest so long as they get some of the spoils afterwards. Yoruichi does not dispute this.
It is certainly the Spirit King telepathically communicating with Ichigo and revealing it's fate and what could befall him. Either way the whole sequence is both amazing and creepy in hindsight given what Ichibei himself reveals to Shunsui about what he planned for Ichigo in CFYOW.
Think is if they tried anything vs Ichigo he's strong enough to take out 0 division and most of the captains without much issue. (Plus lets be honest Rukia,Renji,Byakuya, Kenpachi and the rest wouldn't let 0 division pull that crap)
I dont think Ichigo is being given any sort of power. We know that when Quilqe and Ywach attacked Ichigo, it activated the memories within his soul and Quincy powers were displayed (blut vene). I believe something similar is happening now. The Soul King is showing Ichigo his memories and the memories are sort of awakening Ichigo. The Soul Kings Reiatsu is sort of taking Ichigos Reiatsu and reminding, blending it, making it resemble something like his own. Instead of 4 different spiritual pressures in Ichigo, its like the SK memories are taking Ichigo and blending his power into one Super spiritual pressure with its own unique signature, resembling that of the King.
I hope that once his powers are combined, he actually gains a proper hax/ability to combat Yhwach. Spamming Getsugas will only get you so far. He should've learned it from the time he fought Aizen.
I once saw a theory that said Reio is Ninigi from Japanese mythology who was sent down by the gods to rule Japan and took the three divine gifts (sword, jewel, mirror).
What’s important to note is that these images don’t convey to Ichigo that the Reio didn’t agree to the separation of his body. With no context (unless provided by Ichibei or through the Reio telepathically) this could all be perceived by Ichigo as something the Reio agreed to do. Hence, many people claiming the ‘original sin’ being revealed to Ichigo whilst on the surface appears to be shown; the real original sin, that Reio didn’t agree to the separation of his body is not conveyed in these scenes.
We also have all that power pumping into Ichigo, his body is probably the most suitable to take in foreign energy given his near unique physiology as it is. Soul reaper, Quincy, Hollow all in one, his body maybe one of the few able to potentially handle taking on the mantle of the soul kings power.
Given the biblical ties that yhwach's character has I imagine that his mother is similar to the virgin mary. Her soul was somehow touched by the soul king or she had a fragment of him which she passed on to Yhwach
Man when I saw Ichigo's eyes during his training I freaked out with excitement. Like this was important, a huge deal even. It could potentailly change how things might turn out in later adaptations from the manga
Possibly, the water world IS the crystal prison. His turning the key could possibly be him initiating the final seal willingly, and the "betrayal" that gets around The Almighty was he could see himself in essentially stasis from the moment he uses the key. But because it shows him the perspective from locked in the crystal stasis, he could not see the limbs being severed after. It would help smooth the transition from "Can't Fear" of they did it to him after he was sealed and helpless, while giving a plausible reason he could be betrayed even with The Almighty since the crystal world would essentially freeze his perspective, allowing the ancestors to then shatter off pieces of his power. Crucially, it would help explain why the Right Arm and partially/occasionally the Torso seem to help the Shinigami, while the other 3 pieces seemingly only support the Qunicy and hate them. If the Soul King willingly initiated the final seal, part of him would be supportive of the reasons he did it in the first place, but the other part would be extremely wounded by the betrayal. One quarter of the pieces and some of the core would be an excellent metaphor to explain why he knew it had to happen for the good of the world for the Shinigami, but the greater pieces formed of the betrayal would hate the Shinigami so much.
I personally don’t think Ichigo saw the whole truth. He probably only saw brief glimpses of it without seeing it learning the greater context of that truth. It’s like seeing a book on the shelf you’re vaguely familiar with, but jump to the ending without ever reading it.
Maybe but I personally I think it can go both ways,we’ll see though cause adding this entire section is something very good and important imo,definitely welcomed addition 🫡💙🔥 can’t wait to see what else they do
I think so, but I think he will see it. Like once we see all these disjointed scenes and he makes it to the end we then see it all put together and stuff.
Now with your theory about Mimihagi and the right arm still holding that sword, could that be related to Ukitake's bankai? (just in theory, because he used "stillness" when he was a sick baby without any kind of power or bankai. Could Mimihagi affected his powers through his evolution? Like, his shikai is to absorb power and multiply it and throw it away at his enemy. What if his bankai could just stop his enemy from evolving or powering up? like any form of bankai or schrift).
I am convinced the Soul King was also communicating with Ichigo/trying to enact his own plan, and Ichibei just didn't realize it. Heck, I kinda believe the Soul King had something to do with the Hōgyoku and was playing 4-D chess with Aizen as his main piece, at least during Deicide. In any case, Ichigo learning all of this adds an interesting moral dilemma to hid defense of Soul Society, and we might see more of his reflective side.
I am still on the side that Reio is more of a God who decides to just nothing. No ulterior motives and scheming behind the scenes of trying to manipulate someone into doing something.
@@christiancsq Yeah, it was filled with the nails of the Soul King, but beyond that, it's relation to him is unclear. I personally think the Hōgyoku is either an unaccounted for body part of his, like his eyes, or it's an artificial Soul King piece derived from processing another body part.
I kinda like to think his betrayal and how he didn't know it was coming is like The Watchmen and Dr Manhattan finding out Laurie slept with Dan. He knew she was going to tell him but when she actually told him he still reacted to it because that was the first point he actually "knew." So the soul king knew it would happen but still had to go through the motions
One things I've taken away is that as much as I like Ichibei he's straight up evil because I think he didnt reveal to Ichigo he was being prepped for sacrifice to replace the soul king
I don't think anyone in bleach is evil. Ichibei believes that the 3 worlds is a better place than the primordial world and it must be protected at all cost no matter the sacrifice. Ywach wants to return the world back to the primordial world where there isn't a border between life and death because that is the true nature of things.
Right arm - shinigami Left arm - quincy Left leg - humans Right leg - hollows His torso holds the worlds together, like it holds the body parts together. It was necessary as part of the sealing. The "original sin" could be something good or bad. It could be the families turning their back on him and asking to seal him. Idk just throwing out ideas.
What if, the artifact inhibited Reio from using the Almighty somehow? Then, you have the nobles being able to trick him and an explanation as to why he's never seen again with that artifact
I agree I was thinking the same thing cuz it doesn’t make sense how the soul king would hold a grudge against the 5 great noble families if he used the almighty to see the future and agreed to his sealing it only makes sense if he somehow didn’t see what ever happened happening and I think that’s because maybe they figured out a way to stop his powers just like uruys dad did with the silver arrow so maybe that’s what the key was made of which temporarily stopped his powers and them creating that led to there being research on how to stop his powers cuz remember that arrow uryu shot stopped his powers temporarily so idk tho
@@kingsavage3112 The only thing that's stopped the All mighty before was the still silver. But that only forms in the heart of Auswählen victims and I don't think there's anything to suggest that there was anyone for him to do that to
I'm thinking that it was part of the plan with sending Ichigo to Ichibe that he was being setup as a replacement for Reio. I think when Ichigo's friends were told he could become too powerful to return was hinting at the plan that Ichigo could become the new king.
What really convinced me that this scene isn't the separation of the worlds is the simple fact that there's a "ritual" involved. If Yhwach was able to initiate the merging of the worlds using the Almighty alone and without the need for a ritual, then it's safe to assume separating the worlds would be the same process. So the fact that the scene in question showcased a ritual of some sort, strongly suggests this is definitely not the separation of the worlds but indeed a ritual for something else entirely... which further supports Mr. Tommo's theory.
The 4 worlds were originally one, it makes sense that it would require more effort to split them than to revert everything to its natural state. Or perhaps Yhwach hadn't gotten to the point where he needed the ritual to continue.
So far the "mark" on Reio's hand seems like just a shadow. It's also perpendicular to the direction of Mimihagi's eye, so I'd be surprised it it did have anything to do with that. With the motif of eyes surrounding Reio, showing up on the reiatsu and his body parts as well as the focus on his alien irises, I think it's just natural for Mimihagi and Pernida to gain eyes. Reio is all about sight, after all
I love the idea that Reio didn't realize that they would dismember him. I imagine that perhaps he was either too trusting/naive to even suspect otherwise.
I on the side of that Reio is someone who is truly Benevolent. He knows what the whole event will to to him and still pushed on for the Greater good. The Tsunayashiro wanted to dismember him out off spite but the Reio being consentful of this probably did not gave them the satisfaction they wanted. Kinda like in CFYOW when Tsuanyashiro killed Tosen's Friend.
I think I know where those arrows now. If you look at the soul king in his seal, you'll see those arrows there on top of it. Those can be there to keep him in balance until that final day that he is cut down in the manga. Maybe I am thinking too much into it.
I'm just throwing this out there before they end the anime they should make a scene where ichigo's fuse his zanpakutos into a bow and fire off a getsuga tensho arrow
It's interesting because, I could be wrong, but to my memories it's described that the legs were "whittled" away implying they weren't whole like the arms. But this implies otherwise.
One thing I’ve thought about is it’s possible the soul king knew Ichigo would be there to help his cause and possibly replace him and forced ichigo to be the one to end his pain and choose the reality that saves the world. Similar to how Yuma chooses what timeline he prefers to happen. Would make sense as the soul king gets to have his wish to have a stable world that’s kept safe, but he can finally rest and end the million years of torture.
In my interpretation The Soul King knew what the events will do to him. Regardless of whether or not there will be someone in the future who will end his ultimate suffering. He also embodies the ideology of a God that does nothing and did nothing and let things playout without interfering. Which is the very reason why Aizen hated him. Ge has all the power to do something about it and yet he never do something.
A theory I want to share here it's the next : regarding to the weapon/tool/relic that reio is holding, what if it was made by the 5 original leaders of the noble houses and ichibei? This so he could use the relic as a way of canalize his power ; the almighty ; thus he used this to create the 3 realms, and maybe seal him at the same time but perhaps he didn't see anything clearly even though he knew what was going to happen. We know that the almighty can be tricked by illusions or anything that can get in the way of his vision, the power can be omnipotent but it still is used by a normal sense : the sense of view can be tricked in so many ways by lightning, imagination, reflections, etc therefore it makes perfect sense that aizen's kyokasuigetsu is such a good tool against the almighty. It is nowhere near as powerful as the almighty but it doesn't need to be powerful, it just needs to trick his vision once, no matter how many eyes he has all of them can be tricked because altering the sense of view is rather easy the majority of the times. So with this point clear my theory is that the relic reio uses has something similar to aizen's kyokasuigetsu or tsukishima's bookmark to trick his vision, so he doesn't know what is going to happen next and on top of that, the relic may have another element that could have been used for the mutilation of the soul king ; that's the hollow power. We know that the soul king is the first quincy and how he used a bow and arrow to eradicate the hollows in primordial realm, but we also know that the hollow reiatsu is poison for the quincy and how when they connect their reiatsu with the one of hollows it affects them greatly to the point of leaving them weak and powerless to death. In my opinion the relic had these 2 keys to trick and seal reio : something to confuse his vision and another to left him weak and cut him. Do you remember how daiguren hyorinmaru's wing felt off from cang du's back after toshiro hollowfied his bankai? It was rather quick and easy to cut the connection that he had with his bankai bia reiatsu once this was mixed with hollow power. Probably the relic had something similar to poison reio's reiatsu, leaving him weak, hence why his arms fall from his body. This is my theory and I know I wrote a lot here but I did to explain this on the best way possible so that anyone can understand this idea.
It could be possible that the three vortexes around SK represent three worlds of bleach (World of living, soul society and hueco mundo) with SK in between them like a bridge or something
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Regarding whether or not its possible to trick the Soul King, if Aizen can do it to Yhwach I don't see why some power in the past couldn't also do something similar.
My doubt is how the original soul beings know how to split the worlds and why Reyo accepted his death knowing very well he can easyly destroy these original soulbeings?
Soul King is probably the epitome of being zen. Like a Jesus figure , slap him in the right cheek and he'll let you even slap the other cheek. And ultimately let himself be crucified if that is what it takes to save humanity.
We know Reio had to use the almighty to split the world's, maybe they attacked him then because the full force of the almighty was focused on splitting the world's and they figured he wouldn't be able to fully utilize it's ability to see the future and alter it
That actually makes sense and would fix the problem I had with the theory but at the same time couldn’t reio have foreseen the betrayal before he split the worlds?
@@loivern8015not still sure about that. Like for the Soul King his powers isn't just the Almighty. That I s just one of his powers which Ywach inherited. It might just be the almighty or it might have required all of the Reio's powers. It's basically like a Sharingan, in short Soul King's ocular powers. And the Reio is still fully capable of doing crazy stuff besides almighty.
Ichigo has seen some shit! The soul king had the first key blade! XD Honestly I feel yhwach was born in a similar manner to Jesus Christ with his mother being the Virgin Mary.
The power bestowed upon Ichigo seemed to swell around his zanpakto. So it’s my thinking that some amount of the SK power was imbued into his bankai. Hence why Ywach refused to let Ichigo release it at all.
IF either of your theories are correct, AND we learned that Zangetsu was Yhawach (sp?) Doesn't it stand to reason why Zangetsu in Ichigo's inner world hates "the rain" and again why he hates that Ichigo's despair caused his inner world to become flooded, as they are reminiscent of the pool of water that imprisoned and dismembered the Soul King during the original sin?
I wonder if we’ll see Ichigo manifest any new powers in the final battle as a result of this training… or maybe it was just a test to see if he could be a proper soul king candidate.
Can't expect him to show new powers. Since this is the training Ichigo went into its just that Kubo wasn't able to show it in Manga. The new scenes in anme as shown by far were stuff Kubo wasn't able to include in manga. So it don't have a siignifican't impact on the direction of the overall story.
@@OG_DSBKnowing the manga's ending, there might be a possibility the anime will use this new content to patch up a major hole in the story. At least I really hope they go that route.
I have a theory that whatever the Soul King was holding, I believe it maybe a key to Hell, in the novel it was described when forging the 3 worlds that one of the nobles wanted to put a lid on Hell. What if it was that key to open it’s doors?
im wondering if the arrows in the ground are somehow linked to that one time yhwach shot arrows into the ground to recieve 'gods light'. it might be a kind of link between them (or im just choosing convenient bits of info to make a theory from nothing lmao)
the soul king has always been so tragic to me. the fact he pretty much consented to his own mutilation and imprisonment is just so sad. and the fact that no one knows his sacrifice; yet they reap the benefits of it every day.
Barry- You sure you want to do this? SK- Might be fun for a million years or so. Barry- What's the worst case here? SK- Shrugs- could theoretically blow my arms and legs off. Barry- but harmony though? That's big. SK- Grabs Barry's cane. Watch and learn Barry my friend. This is gonna be rad.
I am no Bleach Jedi but to me it seems like perhaps the Soul King chose to sacrifice himself to create this new world with the help of the 5 Noble Families. This whole 5 Noble Families took him down and imprison him being he is supposed to be so powerful. I mean that is like saying the first 5 Angels over powered God. I am like "uhhh no this does not add up." So I think their is a secret here that is being revealed.
durinf the 2-minute trailer of Cour 2, I am convinced that the mysterious figure holding a blade in a calm water is Tokinada, Because since Tokinada did invade the Reiokyu to steal the Zanpakuto from Ouetsu's palace during their fight against Yhwach and the Elite Guards. Howeverr, now, it's actually the soul king. It's undeniable.
something tells me that the past that reio shows to ichigo i think ichibei was not aware of that and reio shows this past to ichigo in secret. So that ichigo has a decision to make. And what ichibei only knows if is ichigo has the power to become the candidate. i swear Ichigo and SS are bound to be enemies in the future
I think that the sword that Reyo was holding in his hand was actually Shinken Hakkyōken. And if it actually is Shinken, then Kubo is doing a good job of foreshadowing it early in the story.
Super cool thought. The only detraction I can think of is that the Shinken is described as a zanpakuto, and those didn't exist until well after the Split when Ōetsu Nimaiya, like, invented them.
I'm agree with this hundred percent this is just a theory but what if the soul King is also showing Ichigo how to defeat the Almighty and that was the reason why the soul king couldn't see the Betrayal coming because of the arrows or maybe some other outside force
I think Kubo are really doing what he wanted, building Ichigo to the final moment against Yhwach because in the manga still confusing the Zangetsu moment after he get the white part broken. And in my opinion Ichigo is going to be at his peak with all his races powers combined but not a major SK power give it to him I don't think this is possible.
Considering that Ichibei stated that the essence of the SK himself was flowing into Ichigo, him gaining new powers isn't too much of a stretch. Plus, I really don't want to see him spam Getsugas.
Same, maybe it makes sense for him to gain some power from Reiō but that would change the final battle because Tsukishima, Aizen and Uryu were very important for Ichigo to win.
I wonder if maybe that artifact is the thing Aizen had learned of and misunderstood it to be the Oken. However, the artifact information he actually found was Reio's Key, the key to all worlds, or some spiritual weapon like Nanoas ancestrial blade. What if the key we were originally shown is the key that binds the worlds and Reio's existence together, and in turn created the worlds we know from a ritual utilizing that artifact and the sacrifice of Reio's body.
I don't think this is probably going to be the case, but when you asked what can be something that could fool Reio. Maybe someone with a similar power to the Antithesis?
Its interesting backstory to say the least. What if Reio didnt have access full almighty back then. Like how yhwach never had full power of almighty until he absorbed the soul king himself. Only in his final moments he had four eyes in my opinion
Reio posed a threat to the noble clans because he had the Almighty. Even as his memories are being pressed upon Ichigo, the four pupils of the full Almighty are seen superimposed on Ichigo's eyes. It's more plausible that he either conceded to being dismembered or someone temporarily blocked his Almighty.
Alright, so, one thing we keep overlooking with The Almighty is that it doesn't just see the future; it *picks* the future the user wants out of a nigh infinite number of possibilities. Assuming the King could in fact see to the present day, everything that's happened so far has, in fact, all been according to his wishes. Also also, regarding the Soul King holding together the worlds: I think it's stated that it's not so much _him_ but The Almighty responsible for the chore, which is why Yhwach makes a fine enough replacement on account of having The Almighty even before devouring the Soul King. So, if Ichigo _would have_ been a suitable replacement in a pinch like Ichibei thought, that means Ichigo is capable of awakening, or at least wielding, The Almighty.
Could the key like object reio is holding be the original Oken? A key infused with the soul kings power to split the world's partitioning off the different kinds of reishi into their own spheres
Hmm I don’t believe it’s the soul king trying to communicate. I believe it was the monks ‘training’ which he was both testing ichigo as a future soul king, and torturing him. Think it was said that ichibe kinda gets off to hurting people
I think The soul king's body parts mostly just scatter like dragonballs all across the newly separated worlds. This is why none of the Royal Families really tooka advantage of any of the the Soul king's remains. That or either the body warts were seemingly just body parts when they were first collected and the nobles never thought those body parts would end uo gaining sentience themselves or the body parts imbuing themselves to various individuals
Maybe the key is Shinigami made and is the catalyst for the seal but the shinigami built in the removal of limbs when activated to further limit the soul kings power and reach
They added the training scenes but that does not really cause something to change things for now since the training scene is something that Kubo wan not "able to show" in the manga, meaning that basically is what Ichibe's training is even in the manga. Yeah, Ichigo saw flashes but what of it when Ichigo don't really have any context to even make sense of what the heck are those flashes all about. It's kinda like Old man Zangetsu, yeah Ichigo saw him in the Ss arc but of course he won't know Old man Zangetsu was Ywach since he don't have the slightest clue of who Ywach even is. And the flashes are a lot more vaguer than that so....
This cour will be the same, we see Ichigo's reveal panel to the Femritters so that fight is staying. The leaked episode titles imply that the Squad 0 fight will stay the same in intent. Ichigo's role will probably start to change significantly in cours 3 and 4, as he was pretty much just doing nothing but trying to find and fight Yhwach in the manga.
I think the soul king did what ever he wanted. I feel like he would just stand around and kill every hollow (or maybe spirit in general) ala starrk style where they just up and die. Like no shinigami went up to him and said "hey man you're killing everything STOP" he must have known his exact purpose, he must have known he was too strong he let it happen. I also think thats why he likes ichigo because he literally everything (and not like ginjo who is a shinigami/fullbring hybrid which is in itself crazy since natural hybrids dont really exist)
I hope it's figurative. I want the original sin to be more extended and something they had to consciously do over a period of time even if short, rather than something less gruesome that just sort of happens instantly the second he's sealed and or split the worlds.
When Ichibei calls Ichigo a True Shinigami that surpasses an ordinary shinigami, I think he means in the sense that Ichibei and the original nobles were True Shinigami. As a member of the Shiba family with all four natures (human fullbringer, quincy, shinigami, hollow), he has complete reiryoku that could restore the true shinigami. I think that's why his son can turn into a shinigami without separating from his body. He's a true shinigami.
At one point yhwach says that having the almighty makes one a “true” Quincy. Being a “true” shinigami or Quincy seems to translate to being akin to the soul king,
Great video! Thanks for helping walk us through these sequences. Super interesting stuff, but it went by too fast when I first watched it for me to fully process it until now. Two comments: I saw a great theory that Reio's real name is "Yahw-h". Ichibei took away the name "Yahw-h" and gave him the fake name "Reio". Enough people vaguely remembered or had written down the name "YHWH" that when Juha appeared, and people saw his godlike power, they started to call him YHWH -> Ywach -> Juha Bach. If Kyoka Suigetsu is able to deceive The Almighty, it is possible that one of the original ancestors (especially if they were comparable in power to Ichibei) had a similar ability and was able to hide Reio's physical destruction from the futures he saw with The Almighty.
These vignettes remind us that, if it’s for the sake of the stability of the spiritual realm, Ichibe will do ANYTHING to preserve that. He is NOT a good person.
I don’t think there’s so much as evil as they will do whatever it takes to maintain the current status quo even if that is butchering Ichigo and making him the new soul king.
I wouldn’t even say all of Squad Zero. Definitely feels like it’s spearheaded by only Ichibei, and it feels like the anime is playing it up even more with these post credit scenes
My head canon is that the soul king saw that at some point, the three worlds would flourish into something amazing, but only if they could be left without rulers. So he let himself become the lynchpin and with his death and baraggan's death, the worlds are free at last to choose their own fates at some point.
The arrows shouldn't be quincy arrows as ywach is the father of the quinces, so the reishi technique wouldn't have been developed in greater quantities
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I'm pretty sure I might be seeing things in some of those images...but we've finally got some hints towards the Soul King's past! What do you think is going on in those images, and with lchigo's training on Irazusando? Let me know!
the relic/key could be a true form or original Oken key
It was himself. Division zero enemy was Division 13. Using Urahara and Aizen rivalry, they planning to revive soul king in a new body which we know as Ichigo. Ichigo destroyed soul king body because he didnt need his old body(spoiler).
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Theyre prepping ichigo to be the next vessel through this training!
We see the limbs but never accounted for the legs. Was the Quincy King the legs of the soul king destined to re-United the other pieces and march towards the soul king and be once again reabsorbed with Reio? Thus completing the souls kings body again. Ultimately, the new soul king is in fact just a reincarnation of that last who’s fate became the same.
The fact that Ichigo knows what the original Sin is quite the game changer for the upcoming battle!!
I think he begrudginly helps the shinigami because he needs to protect the living world to protect his friends and family
And even if ichigo fought the SS again the captains would just end up in hell, upsetting the balance thus ichigo and co would just have to fight them again
@@allworksnewThe current soul society isn't responsible for original sin either
@@cousin_of_dora true but you heard the warning Ginjo gave ichigo. If he said "nah I'm not going to help you guys anymore" kenpachi, renji, byakuya, toshiro and ikkaku were going to FORCE him back.
He basically just saw flashes without no context whatsoever.
Basically like anime onlies also seeing those flashes will have no clue of the context of said images.
The real change would be if Ichibe actually will explain those flashes to Ichigo but I doubt that he will.
I really enjoy how the anime is actually letting us see Ichigo's training in the soul palace. It really gave us a full grasp of what Ichigo might be capable of.
Unlike the manga where it felt like he was underused during the tybw arc.
Now let's hope we see him actually do more with this power.
It's not. Ichigo is still going to get beat up by askin and the anime might show that. I love our strawberry boy but it's just going to be the same
@@allworksnew woah woah okay let’s be clear askin did not beat Ichigo. He merely immobilized the latter due to his ability
@@allworksnew don’t be blind
@@animanco6833 regardless he still made him a carpet. Dont be in denial
@@allworksnew I not in denial. You on the other hand are being delusional. Plus that scenario was his to begin with so they will probably change it a bit in the anime
I wanted to bring this up a while ago. Yhwach's final word in the story was "Zangetsu" before the sword cut him. What if the Soul King's real name is....wait for it....ZANGETSU and the sword of fate the Soul King holds in the water ends up being the same shape as Ichigo's original Zangetsu from before? Ichibei had blacked out the name earlier in the story. Just imagine!
Lame and not good
ey you on to something 👀
Interesting
That’s actually a pretty good theory!
I can dig it
Just because Reio didn't consent to the dismemberment, doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't see it coming. If he was already willing to seal himself away, and his powers were equal to or greater than Ywach's, then I would be so bold as to make the assumption that he was perfectly capable of stopping his dismemberment, but rather felt that if that's what the noble houses needed to put their minds at ease during the sealing ceremony, then so be it. The good, at least in Reios (many) eyes, far outweighed the assured anguish and torment that was being dismembered.
I read this twice, once, for the information it contained, the second for the punctuation.
He could've easily stopped them but he did nothing. He probably weighed the options and thought their plan was acceptable. It must have been terrifying for the nobles knowing he could be like, yeah I'm done.
@@maliktp13That is the thing, a lot of people try to settle on a definitive perspective of how the Reio personally took these events.
And jump the gone and spread it around like facts.
Even in the novels the story are told not the Reio himselves so a lot of it are those character self prohecting on what might they feel if they were in Reio's shoes.
So evem now we could only go by how we personally interpret it.
Or let yuha said raio see every gran of sand and thought this one was the best to go with
All aside,
I read somewhere I can't remember
That soul king is made more of spiritual matter than physical matter and no question about it has immense spiritual pressure but despite all that power he is incapable of defending himself for some reason.
Again I dont remember the whole explaination but this was the gist of it.
What do you guys think?
I kinda like that Ichigo is restrained to after credits scenes. Makes his training feel a little bit more ominous & important.
If we do get to see the Original Sin, I hope the Tsunayashiro Ancestor is revealed to be an absolute Gremlin. Like a awful person to the point that even the other Ancestors are like:"...Bruh..."
Indeed. If CFYOW is animated Tokinada will instantly become the single most unabashedly evil character in the saga. Unsurprisingly he pointed out to Yoruichi and Soifon that the other nobles would happily join him in his aggressive war of conquest so long as they get some of the spoils afterwards. Yoruichi does not dispute this.
It is certainly the Spirit King telepathically communicating with Ichigo and revealing it's fate and what could befall him. Either way the whole sequence is both amazing and creepy in hindsight given what Ichibei himself reveals to Shunsui about what he planned for Ichigo in CFYOW.
This theory definitely makes the most sense.
trying to communicate with ichigo his plight, and warning him of his potential fate
No babe
Think is if they tried anything vs Ichigo he's strong enough to take out 0 division and most of the captains without much issue. (Plus lets be honest Rukia,Renji,Byakuya, Kenpachi and the rest wouldn't let 0 division pull that crap)
@@abyssus9304 right but when the soul king was imprisoned he was much stronger than everyone else as well
I dont think Ichigo is being given any sort of power.
We know that when Quilqe and Ywach attacked Ichigo, it activated the memories within his soul and Quincy powers were displayed (blut vene). I believe something similar is happening now.
The Soul King is showing Ichigo his memories and the memories are sort of awakening Ichigo. The Soul Kings Reiatsu is sort of taking Ichigos Reiatsu and reminding, blending it, making it resemble something like his own.
Instead of 4 different spiritual pressures in Ichigo, its like the SK memories are taking Ichigo and blending his power into one Super spiritual pressure with its own unique signature, resembling that of the King.
I hope that once his powers are combined, he actually gains a proper hax/ability to combat Yhwach. Spamming Getsugas will only get you so far. He should've learned it from the time he fought Aizen.
@@djaxeman2424he won’t! Have you read the manga?
@@dondaythe4th73 manga?? Are you for real? The manga route won't be taken. The anime is making massive changes.
I once saw a theory that said Reio is Ninigi from Japanese mythology who was sent down by the gods to rule Japan and took the three divine gifts (sword, jewel, mirror).
What’s important to note is that these images don’t convey to Ichigo that the Reio didn’t agree to the separation of his body. With no context (unless provided by Ichibei or through the Reio telepathically) this could all be perceived by Ichigo as something the Reio agreed to do. Hence, many people claiming the ‘original sin’ being revealed to Ichigo whilst on the surface appears to be shown; the real original sin, that Reio didn’t agree to the separation of his body is not conveyed in these scenes.
We also have all that power pumping into Ichigo, his body is probably the most suitable to take in foreign energy given his near unique physiology as it is. Soul reaper, Quincy, Hollow all in one, his body maybe one of the few able to potentially handle taking on the mantle of the soul kings power.
Given the biblical ties that yhwach's character has I imagine that his mother is similar to the virgin mary.
Her soul was somehow touched by the soul king or she had a fragment of him which she passed on to Yhwach
Yhwach is more closer to Lucifer than Jesus
Man when I saw Ichigo's eyes during his training I freaked out with excitement. Like this was important, a huge deal even. It could potentailly change how things might turn out in later adaptations from the manga
Kubo has to change something man if doesn't want another burning of bleach manga or outrage in front of his house
It definitely will change a lot , if this cour ends with yhwach vs Ichibei then there will huge amounts of anime only content in cour 3 and 4😳.
@@mufeezsyed2664 He doesn't care about those fans, he said this over and over.
@@0eyesand he shouldn’t. I don’t care if the ending is sh*t or smth like that. No one deserves death threats bcs of it
Possibly, the water world IS the crystal prison. His turning the key could possibly be him initiating the final seal willingly, and the "betrayal" that gets around The Almighty was he could see himself in essentially stasis from the moment he uses the key. But because it shows him the perspective from locked in the crystal stasis, he could not see the limbs being severed after.
It would help smooth the transition from "Can't Fear" of they did it to him after he was sealed and helpless, while giving a plausible reason he could be betrayed even with The Almighty since the crystal world would essentially freeze his perspective, allowing the ancestors to then shatter off pieces of his power.
Crucially, it would help explain why the Right Arm and partially/occasionally the Torso seem to help the Shinigami, while the other 3 pieces seemingly only support the Qunicy and hate them. If the Soul King willingly initiated the final seal, part of him would be supportive of the reasons he did it in the first place, but the other part would be extremely wounded by the betrayal. One quarter of the pieces and some of the core would be an excellent metaphor to explain why he knew it had to happen for the good of the world for the Shinigami, but the greater pieces formed of the betrayal would hate the Shinigami so much.
THIS omg this, I wish every bleach theorist saw this.
However it wouldnt explain how his brain and heart and such got out tho
I personally don’t think Ichigo saw the whole truth. He probably only saw brief glimpses of it without seeing it learning the greater context of that truth. It’s like seeing a book on the shelf you’re vaguely familiar with, but jump to the ending without ever reading it.
Maybe but I personally I think it can go both ways,we’ll see though cause adding this entire section is something very good and important imo,definitely welcomed addition 🫡💙🔥 can’t wait to see what else they do
Yea I think he just saw the soul king being dismembered without much context.
I think so, but I think he will see it. Like once we see all these disjointed scenes and he makes it to the end we then see it all put together and stuff.
Yeah, Ichigo is not Tommo. He is not going to understand what he saw to that level 😛
He saw what they wanted him to see
Now with your theory about Mimihagi and the right arm still holding that sword, could that be related to Ukitake's bankai? (just in theory, because he used "stillness" when he was a sick baby without any kind of power or bankai. Could Mimihagi affected his powers through his evolution? Like, his shikai is to absorb power and multiply it and throw it away at his enemy. What if his bankai could just stop his enemy from evolving or powering up? like any form of bankai or schrift).
I am convinced the Soul King was also communicating with Ichigo/trying to enact his own plan, and Ichibei just didn't realize it. Heck, I kinda believe the Soul King had something to do with the Hōgyoku and was playing 4-D chess with Aizen as his main piece, at least during Deicide.
In any case, Ichigo learning all of this adds an interesting moral dilemma to hid defense of Soul Society, and we might see more of his reflective side.
I am still on the side that Reio is more of a God who decides to just nothing.
No ulterior motives and scheming behind the scenes of trying to manipulate someone into doing something.
The hogyoku is made of reios body parts
@@christiancsq Yeah, it was filled with the nails of the Soul King, but beyond that, it's relation to him is unclear. I personally think the Hōgyoku is either an unaccounted for body part of his, like his eyes, or it's an artificial Soul King piece derived from processing another body part.
@@Snzn_7 He's a vegetable.
@@MrGksarathy the nails of the SK come from fullbringers who have had the nails extracted from their bodies.
I kinda like to think his betrayal and how he didn't know it was coming is like The Watchmen and Dr Manhattan finding out Laurie slept with Dan. He knew she was going to tell him but when she actually told him he still reacted to it because that was the first point he actually "knew." So the soul king knew it would happen but still had to go through the motions
One things I've taken away is that as much as I like Ichibei he's straight up evil because I think he didnt reveal to Ichigo he was being prepped for sacrifice to replace the soul king
I don't think anyone in bleach is evil. Ichibei believes that the 3 worlds is a better place than the primordial world and it must be protected at all cost no matter the sacrifice. Ywach wants to return the world back to the primordial world where there isn't a border between life and death because that is the true nature of things.
@@notarobot3531Ywach copying the Cancer Verse and Ichibe trying to do am Infinite Crisis 😂😂😂
Right arm - shinigami
Left arm - quincy
Left leg - humans
Right leg - hollows
His torso holds the worlds together, like it holds the body parts together. It was necessary as part of the sealing.
The "original sin" could be something good or bad. It could be the families turning their back on him and asking to seal him. Idk just throwing out ideas.
A sin, sort of by definition, is not a good thing.
@@SinHurr depends on point of view. A sin for one isn't a sin for all
Hollows are a primordial race they preceded the soul king same as hell.
What if, the artifact inhibited Reio from using the Almighty somehow? Then, you have the nobles being able to trick him and an explanation as to why he's never seen again with that artifact
I agree I was thinking the same thing cuz it doesn’t make sense how the soul king would hold a grudge against the 5 great noble families if he used the almighty to see the future and agreed to his sealing it only makes sense if he somehow didn’t see what ever happened happening and I think that’s because maybe they figured out a way to stop his powers just like uruys dad did with the silver arrow so maybe that’s what the key was made of which temporarily stopped his powers and them creating that led to there being research on how to stop his powers cuz remember that arrow uryu shot stopped his powers temporarily so idk tho
@@kingsavage3112 The only thing that's stopped the All mighty before was the still silver. But that only forms in the heart of Auswählen victims and I don't think there's anything to suggest that there was anyone for him to do that to
@@Nexus-ub9jm Right. Auswahlen eats up Quincy juice, and there were no Quincy in the Primordial World that we're aware of.
I'm thinking that it was part of the plan with sending Ichigo to Ichibe that he was being setup as a replacement for Reio. I think when Ichigo's friends were told he could become too powerful to return was hinting at the plan that Ichigo could become the new king.
What really convinced me that this scene isn't the separation of the worlds is the simple fact that there's a "ritual" involved. If Yhwach was able to initiate the merging of the worlds using the Almighty alone and without the need for a ritual, then it's safe to assume separating the worlds would be the same process. So the fact that the scene in question showcased a ritual of some sort, strongly suggests this is definitely not the separation of the worlds but indeed a ritual for something else entirely... which further supports Mr. Tommo's theory.
The 4 worlds were originally one, it makes sense that it would require more effort to split them than to revert everything to its natural state. Or perhaps Yhwach hadn't gotten to the point where he needed the ritual to continue.
So far the "mark" on Reio's hand seems like just a shadow. It's also perpendicular to the direction of Mimihagi's eye, so I'd be surprised it it did have anything to do with that. With the motif of eyes surrounding Reio, showing up on the reiatsu and his body parts as well as the focus on his alien irises, I think it's just natural for Mimihagi and Pernida to gain eyes. Reio is all about sight, after all
I love the idea that Reio didn't realize that they would dismember him. I imagine that perhaps he was either too trusting/naive to even suspect otherwise.
I on the side of that Reio is someone who is truly Benevolent.
He knows what the whole event will to to him and still pushed on for the Greater good.
The Tsunayashiro wanted to dismember him out off spite but the Reio being consentful of this probably did not gave them the satisfaction they wanted.
Kinda like in CFYOW when Tsuanyashiro killed Tosen's Friend.
So the almighty is defective garbage then. So much for near omniscience.
just like ichigo. ichibe is plotting a 2nd betrayal in his point of view.
Kinda like how ywach thought ichigo defeating him was a dream, but Idk. The SK's expression doesnt seem nurturing or naive rn
I think I know where those arrows now. If you look at the soul king in his seal, you'll see those arrows there on top of it. Those can be there to keep him in balance until that final day that he is cut down in the manga. Maybe I am thinking too much into it.
I'm just throwing this out there before they end the anime they should make a scene where ichigo's fuse his zanpakutos into a bow and fire off a getsuga tensho arrow
Hopefully
I’m really curious what Reio’s legs could represent, if anything. Reversion and destruction maybe?
How did you comment before the video was even uploaded
Not a bad theory
feel like construction and destruction would fit better. They are opposites, just like the left and right arm.
Stability just like how the legs support the body
It's interesting because, I could be wrong, but to my memories it's described that the legs were "whittled" away implying they weren't whole like the arms. But this implies otherwise.
I wish we could’ve seen more about the Sol king
I wonder if we’ll ever get a full view on what happened before Reio split the worlds
One thing I’ve thought about is it’s possible the soul king knew Ichigo would be there to help his cause and possibly replace him and forced ichigo to be the one to end his pain and choose the reality that saves the world. Similar to how Yuma chooses what timeline he prefers to happen. Would make sense as the soul king gets to have his wish to have a stable world that’s kept safe, but he can finally rest and end the million years of torture.
In my interpretation The Soul King knew what the events will do to him. Regardless of whether or not there will be someone in the future who will end his ultimate suffering.
He also embodies the ideology of a God that does nothing and did nothing and let things playout without interfering. Which is the very reason why Aizen hated him. Ge has all the power to do something about it and yet he never do something.
Masterfully told video!!! Tommo you are my favorite youtuber
THANK YOU for talking about this
Thanks for this breakdown. Cheers!
Reio was sharing his powers with Ichigo just like his son. Ichigo been a Quincy means he is susceptible to the powers of the Quincy gods.
I wonder if those arrows were shot with a silver head, like Uryu, that neutralized Reio's abilities temporarily so the og 5 could dismember him?
Love the images break down
I honestly didn't think we would see so much more of them
I. Have. Been. So. Hype. Waiting. On. This.
Thank you, very, very much.
A theory I want to share here it's the next : regarding to the weapon/tool/relic that reio is holding, what if it was made by the 5 original leaders of the noble houses and ichibei? This so he could use the relic as a way of canalize his power ; the almighty ; thus he used this to create the 3 realms, and maybe seal him at the same time but perhaps he didn't see anything clearly even though he knew what was going to happen.
We know that the almighty can be tricked by illusions or anything that can get in the way of his vision, the power can be omnipotent but it still is used by a normal sense : the sense of view can be tricked in so many ways by lightning, imagination, reflections, etc therefore it makes perfect sense that aizen's kyokasuigetsu is such a good tool against the almighty. It is nowhere near as powerful as the almighty but it doesn't need to be powerful, it just needs to trick his vision once, no matter how many eyes he has all of them can be tricked because altering the sense of view is rather easy the majority of the times.
So with this point clear my theory is that the relic reio uses has something similar to aizen's kyokasuigetsu or tsukishima's bookmark to trick his vision, so he doesn't know what is going to happen next and on top of that, the relic may have another element that could have been used for the mutilation of the soul king ; that's the hollow power.
We know that the soul king is the first quincy and how he used a bow and arrow to eradicate the hollows in primordial realm, but we also know that the hollow reiatsu is poison for the quincy and how when they connect their reiatsu with the one of hollows it affects them greatly to the point of leaving them weak and powerless to death. In my opinion the relic had these 2 keys to trick and seal reio : something to confuse his vision and another to left him weak and cut him.
Do you remember how daiguren hyorinmaru's wing felt off from cang du's back after toshiro hollowfied his bankai? It was rather quick and easy to cut the connection that he had with his bankai bia reiatsu once this was mixed with hollow power. Probably the relic had something similar to poison reio's reiatsu, leaving him weak, hence why his arms fall from his body.
This is my theory and I know I wrote a lot here but I did to explain this on the best way possible so that anyone can understand this idea.
Amazing theory, however I don't see how it would strip him out of organs
Also Shunsui commenting that he didn’t trust that they had their best interest in mind.
Would be so cool if the Soul King actually speaks in the anime. Who would be the best JP & US VA?
soul king is showing ichigo what happened to him in the past and is also warning him what can happen to him.
It could be possible that the three vortexes around SK represent three worlds of bleach (World of living, soul society and hueco mundo) with SK in between them like a bridge or something
I met a dude at work who watches bleach and we got into an argument about ulquiora vs As Nödt and I sent him to the video I saw here. Enjoyed and made good points I wish I could share this with all Bleach lovers cuz the content from this channel is great
Damn I am fast as fuck today, I think he might get some kind or some version of allmighty, maybe the eyes come in during his bankai
This is the best theory I have heard so far, it aligns very well with what we saw and know ... Can't wait to see/know more !
Regarding whether or not its possible to trick the Soul King, if Aizen can do it to Yhwach I don't see why some power in the past couldn't also do something similar.
My doubt is how the original soul beings know how to split the worlds and why Reyo accepted his death knowing very well he can easyly destroy these original soulbeings?
Soul King is probably the epitome of being zen.
Like a Jesus figure , slap him in the right cheek and he'll let you even slap the other cheek. And ultimately let himself be crucified if that is what it takes to save humanity.
We know Reio had to use the almighty to split the world's, maybe they attacked him then because the full force of the almighty was focused on splitting the world's and they figured he wouldn't be able to fully utilize it's ability to see the future and alter it
That actually makes sense and would fix the problem I had with the theory but at the same time couldn’t reio have foreseen the betrayal before he split the worlds?
@@felipez3115 it’s very clearly mentions that the worlds are split because of the almighty
@@loivern8015 Yeah sorry you're right, SK Allmighty is capable of doing much more because is the original and more powerful.
@@loivern8015not still sure about that. Like for the Soul King his powers isn't just the Almighty. That I s just one of his powers which Ywach inherited.
It might just be the almighty or it might have required all of the Reio's powers.
It's basically like a Sharingan, in short Soul King's ocular powers.
And the Reio is still fully capable of doing crazy stuff besides almighty.
@@Snzn_7 we do not know if the sk has any more powers on the level of the almighty
Ichigo has seen some shit!
The soul king had the first key blade! XD
Honestly I feel yhwach was born in a similar manner to Jesus Christ with his mother being the Virgin Mary.
The power bestowed upon Ichigo seemed to swell around his zanpakto. So it’s my thinking that some amount of the SK power was imbued into his bankai. Hence why Ywach refused to let Ichigo release it at all.
IF either of your theories are correct, AND we learned that Zangetsu was Yhawach (sp?) Doesn't it stand to reason why Zangetsu in Ichigo's inner world hates "the rain" and again why he hates that Ichigo's despair caused his inner world to become flooded, as they are reminiscent of the pool of water that imprisoned and dismembered the Soul King during the original sin?
I wonder if we’ll see Ichigo manifest any new powers in the final battle as a result of this training… or maybe it was just a test to see if he could be a proper soul king candidate.
It was more of a test to see if ichigo could become a vessel to be the next soul king rather than training.
He will be at his peak with all his powers but I don't he will get SK powers, it doesn't make sense for me.
Can't expect him to show new powers.
Since this is the training Ichigo went into its just that Kubo wasn't able to show it in Manga.
The new scenes in anme as shown by far were stuff Kubo wasn't able to include in manga. So it don't have a siignifican't impact on the direction of the overall story.
@@Snzn_7 I know all that. I don’t expect to see new powers, but it’s the anime so he could show some new ability that wasn’t shown in the manga.
@@OG_DSBKnowing the manga's ending, there might be a possibility the anime will use this new content to patch up a major hole in the story.
At least I really hope they go that route.
I have a theory that whatever the Soul King was holding, I believe it maybe a key to Hell, in the novel it was described when forging the 3 worlds that one of the nobles wanted to put a lid on Hell. What if it was that key to open it’s doors?
im wondering if the arrows in the ground are somehow linked to that one time yhwach shot arrows into the ground to recieve 'gods light'. it might be a kind of link between them (or im just choosing convenient bits of info to make a theory from nothing lmao)
It has to mean something I mean arrows? You're definitely onto something
You remind me a lot of bleach reviews era of tekking101
the soul king has always been so tragic to me. the fact he pretty much consented to his own mutilation and imprisonment is just so sad. and the fact that no one knows his sacrifice; yet they reap the benefits of it every day.
Barry- You sure you want to do this?
SK- Might be fun for a million years or so.
Barry- What's the worst case here?
SK- Shrugs- could theoretically blow my arms and legs off.
Barry- but harmony though? That's big.
SK- Grabs Barry's cane. Watch and learn Barry my friend. This is gonna be rad.
I am no Bleach Jedi but to me it seems like perhaps the Soul King chose to sacrifice himself to create this new world with the help of the 5 Noble Families. This whole 5 Noble Families took him down and imprison him being he is supposed to be so powerful. I mean that is like saying the first 5 Angels over powered God. I am like "uhhh no this does not add up." So I think their is a secret here that is being revealed.
The animation in these episodes is outstanding!
What do Luke Skywalker and Yhwach have in common?
Both of their dads lost all their arms and legs😂
LOL🤣
I legit spat out my water reading this-
durinf the 2-minute trailer of Cour 2, I am convinced that the mysterious figure holding a blade in a calm water is Tokinada, Because since Tokinada did invade the Reiokyu to steal the Zanpakuto from Ouetsu's palace during their fight against Yhwach and the Elite Guards.
Howeverr, now, it's actually the soul king. It's undeniable.
Maybe when he got sealed it was like all he could see up to
I've been waiting for this topic to drop glad the best did it
something tells me that the past that reio shows to ichigo i think ichibei was not aware of that and reio shows this past to ichigo in secret. So that ichigo has a decision to make.
And what ichibei only knows if is ichigo has the power to become the candidate.
i swear Ichigo and SS are bound to be enemies in the future
I think that the sword that Reyo was holding in his hand was actually Shinken Hakkyōken.
And if it actually is Shinken, then Kubo is doing a good job of foreshadowing it early in the story.
Super cool thought. The only detraction I can think of is that the Shinken is described as a zanpakuto, and those didn't exist until well after the Split when Ōetsu Nimaiya, like, invented them.
I'm agree with this hundred percent this is just a theory but what if the soul King is also showing Ichigo how to defeat the Almighty and that was the reason why the soul king couldn't see the Betrayal coming because of the arrows or maybe some other outside force
I think Kubo are really doing what he wanted, building Ichigo to the final moment against Yhwach because in the manga still confusing the Zangetsu moment after he get the white part broken.
And in my opinion Ichigo is going to be at his peak with all his races powers combined but not a major SK power give it to him I don't think this is possible.
Considering that Ichibei stated that the essence of the SK himself was flowing into Ichigo, him gaining new powers isn't too much of a stretch. Plus, I really don't want to see him spam Getsugas.
Same, maybe it makes sense for him to gain some power from Reiō but that would change the final battle because Tsukishima, Aizen and Uryu were very important for Ichigo to win.
I wonder if maybe that artifact is the thing Aizen had learned of and misunderstood it to be the Oken. However, the artifact information he actually found was Reio's Key, the key to all worlds, or some spiritual weapon like Nanoas ancestrial blade. What if the key we were originally shown is the key that binds the worlds and Reio's existence together, and in turn created the worlds we know from a ritual utilizing that artifact and the sacrifice of Reio's body.
The soul king was telling him what happened back then and what can possibly happen to ichigo. But i dont know whats going on with the sealing stuff.
I think the relic he was holding was the original Ohken. (I can’t remember how to spell it lol)
I remember everyone thought the guy in the lake was Tokinada Tsunayashiro.
I don't think this is probably going to be the case, but when you asked what can be something that could fool Reio. Maybe someone with a similar power to the Antithesis?
Maybe Ywcah himself??
I feel like this training is prepping ichigo to be the next soul king should they need a new linchpin even though we didn’t get this in the manga
Its interesting backstory to say the least. What if Reio didnt have access full almighty back then. Like how yhwach never had full power of almighty until he absorbed the soul king himself. Only in his final moments he had four eyes in my opinion
Reio posed a threat to the noble clans because he had the Almighty. Even as his memories are being pressed upon Ichigo, the four pupils of the full Almighty are seen superimposed on Ichigo's eyes.
It's more plausible that he either conceded to being dismembered or someone temporarily blocked his Almighty.
@@gabby_donzaizen blocked it
@@gabby_donz I'm saying he didn't awaken his full power until last moment
I was waiting for this video, I mean, a video about this new scenes and the possible context about
What if that was the cost for him to split the worlds.
3 arrows, 3 worlds
And his mutilation was the cost.
Sort of like equivalent exchange
I def believe what Ichigo is going through is getting the Oken for the soul kings spirit to be able to communicate
The arrows could represent both the original power that Quincy and soul reaper are joined together in him black for soul reaper and white for quincy
Alright, so, one thing we keep overlooking with The Almighty is that it doesn't just see the future; it *picks* the future the user wants out of a nigh infinite number of possibilities. Assuming the King could in fact see to the present day, everything that's happened so far has, in fact, all been according to his wishes.
Also also, regarding the Soul King holding together the worlds: I think it's stated that it's not so much _him_ but The Almighty responsible for the chore, which is why Yhwach makes a fine enough replacement on account of having The Almighty even before devouring the Soul King. So, if Ichigo _would have_ been a suitable replacement in a pinch like Ichibei thought, that means Ichigo is capable of awakening, or at least wielding, The Almighty.
If Adnyeus is the Soul King name then Yhwach sure did give away to us his father name in his Auswählen chant. 😂
Iwould be surprised if its not.
Could the key like object reio is holding be the original Oken? A key infused with the soul kings power to split the world's partitioning off the different kinds of reishi into their own spheres
I've been wondering if it's a original version of Nanao's family sword, inherited by the head of the clan, passed down for generations.
Hmm I don’t believe it’s the soul king trying to communicate. I believe it was the monks ‘training’ which he was both testing ichigo as a future soul king, and torturing him. Think it was said that ichibe kinda gets off to hurting people
I think The soul king's body parts mostly just scatter like dragonballs all across the newly separated worlds.
This is why none of the Royal Families really tooka advantage of any of the the Soul king's remains.
That or either the body warts were seemingly just body parts when they were first collected and the nobles never thought those body parts would end uo gaining sentience themselves or the body parts imbuing themselves to various individuals
Maybe the key is Shinigami made and is the catalyst for the seal but the shinigami built in the removal of limbs when activated to further limit the soul kings power and reach
Thank you for this detailed and informative analysis
Still going with "Ywach is the nut of the Soul King"
Knowing that Ichigo isn't in the next episode makes me really curious what his role is gonna be in this season if they decide to change some stuff
They added the training scenes but that does not really cause something to change things for now since the training scene is something that Kubo wan not "able to show" in the manga, meaning that basically is what Ichibe's training is even in the manga.
Yeah, Ichigo saw flashes but what of it when Ichigo don't really have any context to even make sense of what the heck are those flashes all about.
It's kinda like Old man Zangetsu, yeah Ichigo saw him in the Ss arc but of course he won't know Old man Zangetsu was Ywach since he don't have the slightest clue of who Ywach even is.
And the flashes are a lot more vaguer than that so....
This cour will be the same, we see Ichigo's reveal panel to the Femritters so that fight is staying. The leaked episode titles imply that the Squad 0 fight will stay the same in intent. Ichigo's role will probably start to change significantly in cours 3 and 4, as he was pretty much just doing nothing but trying to find and fight Yhwach in the manga.
I think the soul king did what ever he wanted. I feel like he would just stand around and kill every hollow (or maybe spirit in general) ala starrk style where they just up and die. Like no shinigami went up to him and said "hey man you're killing everything STOP" he must have known his exact purpose, he must have known he was too strong he let it happen. I also think thats why he likes ichigo because he literally everything (and not like ginjo who is a shinigami/fullbring hybrid which is in itself crazy since natural hybrids dont really exist)
I hope it's figurative. I want the original sin to be more extended and something they had to consciously do over a period of time even if short, rather than something less gruesome that just sort of happens instantly the second he's sealed and or split the worlds.
When Ichibei calls Ichigo a True Shinigami that surpasses an ordinary shinigami, I think he means in the sense that Ichibei and the original nobles were True Shinigami. As a member of the Shiba family with all four natures (human fullbringer, quincy, shinigami, hollow), he has complete reiryoku that could restore the true shinigami. I think that's why his son can turn into a shinigami without separating from his body. He's a true shinigami.
At one point yhwach says that having the almighty makes one a “true” Quincy. Being a “true” shinigami or Quincy seems to translate to being akin to the soul king,
It kinda startled me since im watching this in the dark but you can see Tommo's outline in the Reio'e forehead at 1:20 😂
Great video! Thanks for helping walk us through these sequences. Super interesting stuff, but it went by too fast when I first watched it for me to fully process it until now.
Two comments:
I saw a great theory that Reio's real name is "Yahw-h". Ichibei took away the name "Yahw-h" and gave him the fake name "Reio". Enough people vaguely remembered or had written down the name "YHWH" that when Juha appeared, and people saw his godlike power, they started to call him YHWH -> Ywach -> Juha Bach.
If Kyoka Suigetsu is able to deceive The Almighty, it is possible that one of the original ancestors (especially if they were comparable in power to Ichibei) had a similar ability and was able to hide Reio's physical destruction from the futures he saw with The Almighty.
What about the precipice world and the arrows isshin used when Ichigo trained in the dangai?
I always assumed that nanos families seramonial zampakto was used to split the soul kings limbs from his body
These vignettes remind us that, if it’s for the sake of the stability of the spiritual realm, Ichibe will do ANYTHING to preserve that. He is NOT a good person.
Reio's right hand governs stability/stagnation.
Fitting that it us the hand that he uses to presumably create the stagnant world system of Bleach.
Squad Zero(Mostly Ichibe) is just as evil as any of Bleach’s actual villains tbh.
I don’t think there’s so much as evil as they will do whatever it takes to maintain the current status quo even if that is butchering Ichigo and making him the new soul king.
@@lordmeliodas6397so evil
Or rather ichibei is
@@lordmeliodas6397 that's probably more evil than ywatch
I wouldn’t even say all of Squad Zero. Definitely feels like it’s spearheaded by only Ichibei, and it feels like the anime is playing it up even more with these post credit scenes
My head canon is that the soul king saw that at some point, the three worlds would flourish into something amazing, but only if they could be left without rulers. So he let himself become the lynchpin and with his death and baraggan's death, the worlds are free at last to choose their own fates at some point.
The arrows shouldn't be quincy arrows as ywach is the father of the quinces, so the reishi technique wouldn't have been developed in greater quantities