The NEXT-GEN of Rally Sim Has NOT Arrived...

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  • Thanks to EA for Inviting me to this early access event #EApartner
    EA Sports' WRC 2023 is here. Let me show you some gameplay, and give you my first impressions!
    On one hand, I am absolutely in love with this new Codemasters rally game. It does a great job at convincing you you're a real WRC rally driver. But on the other, I feel like some of the statements made about it being quintessential rally sim may have been misleading; especially when something like RBR Richard Burns Rally exists.
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ความคิดเห็น • 611

  • @kaPaURL
    @kaPaURL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +519

    I have a grandma in a 2006 Yaris and she does a lot of counter steering after her sick handbrake pulls.

    • @themuffincat
      @themuffincat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      your grandma should be a rally driver

    • @potatogirlcultist19
      @potatogirlcultist19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Based Grandma

  • @The_Amateur_Hour
    @The_Amateur_Hour 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +287

    Having a hardcore mode that ticks the sim box for most sim racers would be great, while having a default mode for maximum accessibility for the general public.

    • @werdpc
      @werdpc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They do have a hard-core damage option. Whatever that means exactly. I will definitely be playing with that on. But even that mode was pretty forgiving in dirt rally 2. I hope they amped it up some in this game. We will see.

    • @jendabekCZ
      @jendabekCZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not worth the investment for them.

    • @werdpc
      @werdpc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @jendabekCZ maybe not. Seems like it would be easy to just turn that stuff up though. But I'm no game developer.

    • @jendabekCZ
      @jendabekCZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@werdpc A game must be developed differently from the very beginning if you want it to be a simulation.

    • @werdpc
      @werdpc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @jendabekCZ absolutely. I'm just speaking in terms of the damage. Like still using the same damage physics/model. Just turning up the sensitivity, So it would take less of an impact to accrue that damage. Thus making it more realistic.

  • @TSRB
    @TSRB  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +294

    I've been speaking with EA about the physics. They're adamant the physics are simulation, and there's a possibility that there was something wrong with my game, such as a bug that didn't fully disable all of the assists. Although I did reinstall the game 3 times, and nothing changed. If it was a bug, they haven't been able to replicate it in the release version of the game, so a follow up video on the physics may be in order... Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the other 3/4s of the video where I wasn't complaining about the physics 🤣

    • @tomasmenezes3683
      @tomasmenezes3683 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Please let it be a bug lord.

    • @mgrib3594
      @mgrib3594 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      After playing some RBR, it's now painful for me to see people rallying in this game. All this snap-oversteers (especially, on loss surfaces) just look wrong, especially if driver didn't pressed brake pedal at all. It seems like cars have very little inertion from side view.

    • @Trench_Rock
      @Trench_Rock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Sounds to me like EA slapped you on the wrist for telling the truth lol the game looks good but its not your fault if it doesnt feel good.

    • @sportschool3537
      @sportschool3537 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@mgrib3594 Then go back to the "realistic" RBR that is perfect due to your professional opinion about how a rally car should feel and rally in those horrific graphics... meanwhile we'll have fun in a fantastic 2023 game with licensed WRC cars and a great career mode to win the WRC championship... ok hipster??? Leave us in our pain... we fucking love it!!!!

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      @@Trench_Rock I can say whatever I want tbf. There's a human at EA, they're not just some mindless mega corporation drones 🤣 If they believe the physics are simulation, so much that they themselves would write it in the marketing materials, I'm gonna take that seriously 🤷‍♂

  • @kenneyaf
    @kenneyaf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    There have been so many other videos contradicting the first minute of this one that it's hard to believe who has the most objective opinion, frankly.

    • @Arnechk
      @Arnechk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aim inbetween. Modern WRC gravel grip, or 2000's with the active diffs might be a lot in comparison to default RBR sliding on ice. However, judging by IRL footage, these cars can grip laterally pretty well, BUT ground irl gives in, hence the wall of the tire does more work. Gravel in RBR feels pretty same-y, except the shape and contour of the road itself, but that is another matter. Both games have similar issues, but devs decided to approach it from different angles. Not until a game calculates physics on the fly at least like LFS or more appropriately - BeamNG (rip CPU), and the road surface is meticulously handmade with potholes of different materials, softness, weather effects etc. to mimic real roads, will we get something like a realistic rally simulation.
      In the end it depends on what you want from the game. I would buy WRC for the F2 cars, but since I don't like the way physics work, I am completely content with a 24 year old Rally Championship 2000. Same cars, long tracks and the physics are also whack. But the atmosphere is there, even more intimate and focused compared to WRC which has everything but in bite size shunks, spread out thin.

    • @dedrox3d491
      @dedrox3d491 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Make sure if they are sponsered or not. This guy is not sponsered. It's honesty

  • @schmid1.079
    @schmid1.079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    7:10 Huh? Neither Dirt Rally had a particularly harsh damage model. Just a few moments prior you said that only launching yourself full speed into a tree causes DNF in WRC, which is exactly the same as in Dirt Rally, so what is it now?

    • @b.1570
      @b.1570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Funny how the original DiRT series before DiRT Rally had a much more detailed damage models even the glass can't be shattered into pieces in DR1

    • @daivdninjabiomech7888
      @daivdninjabiomech7888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have lost actual wheels in the original dirt rally

    • @TheDrLeviathan
      @TheDrLeviathan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He meant older DiRT games in general. The series is about 20 years old, predating even Richard Burns Rally. DiRT was actually Colin McCrae's Dirt originally (I think, idk if McCrae was added later, it's literally been 20 years), though they changed the name a while after he died (iirc, it wasn't immediate).

  • @IPlayKindred
    @IPlayKindred 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Sim racer discovers games

    • @TheCaffeinatedDrive
      @TheCaffeinatedDrive 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sim racer discovers game marketed as sim*

    • @IPlayKindred
      @IPlayKindred 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheCaffeinatedDriveother sim racer discovers marketing is a glass house of lies and has an existential crises .

    • @-IE_it_yourself
      @-IE_it_yourself 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah we dont want games... there are plenty of them, the option was always there, just wanted to make a sim

  • @Chiquelhotdb
    @Chiquelhotdb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    And that's a good thing because most people don't play simulators, they just want a good engaging game

    • @polar_inertia
      @polar_inertia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      no it's boring. when you play a rally game you expect rally physics. also they advertised it as a simulation

    • @Trench_Rock
      @Trench_Rock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      if its too easy it wont be engaging enough to sim players. I enjoy the challenge that is the main reason I play rally sims. The higher the skill ceiling the more progress you feel as you get better. This looks like dirt 2.0. It looks good but i would prob play all the tracks a couple times then get bored of the way the driving feels.

    • @atlasdev
      @atlasdev 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      When they market it as a simulation... It's going to grab the attention of sim players. When it doesn't live up to those standards, people get pissed and disappointed.

    • @Trench_Rock
      @Trench_Rock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@atlasdev That isnt anyones fault other than the game devs if they market a game as a sim and dont deliver on it. If they want to make a game for people to play with a controller then fine, but if they are marketing a game that is meant to use a steering wheel and pedals then why half-ass the physics? I want the car to feel like a car because that is the entire "experience" the game has to offer.

    • @tessierrr
      @tessierrr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Its a sim just not a full blown one like you guys always expect from a big dev 😂 theyre trying to sell games not please you 😆

  • @Alex-xg8py
    @Alex-xg8py 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I just want Phil MIlls back......I will continue to use Dirt Rally 2.0 as a result of his brilliance in that game

  • @sachabourdeau358
    @sachabourdeau358 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I now have reasonable but good expectations for this, hopefully they have more time to expand on the simulation in the next one.

    • @rob.ale90
      @rob.ale90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "next one"....i would expect this to be milked for at least 5 years

    • @skyhunter996
      @skyhunter996 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They won't, it's an ea, they will milk this one the same as fifa

  • @Mark_BLN
    @Mark_BLN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Was there an error in the upload or was it intended that the video end so abruptly?

  • @travis2222
    @travis2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Thanks for being straight forward with us. So many content creators are over hyping this to game as a sim. Not sure if EA makes people lose their minds or what. That said the game will be fun for the right crowd just like Forza is.

    • @m4dalex478
      @m4dalex478 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      He is talking BS. I do not understand why he chose to "trash" this game like that. The FFB, the tarmac and the damage model are going to be better than DR2. If that is not a sim in his eyes then he is the most biased reviewer I have watched so far. Get lost in RBR for another decade I guess.

    • @antonsamuelsson1317
      @antonsamuelsson1317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a preview that with the steering wheel is a bug
      For example

    • @Skumtomten1
      @Skumtomten1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@m4dalex478Lol did it hurt your feelings? Just look at the replays and compare RBR to any Codemaster game. It's pretty obvious RBR is far more realistic and has proper weight/inertia and movement unlike the Codemaster games.
      That doesn't mean their games can't be fun, but RBR is still the best and most advanced rally sim.

    • @m4dalex478
      @m4dalex478 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Skumtomten1 I also consider RBR to offer the best simulation, that was not my point. Trashing this title on purpose for 2 minutes, is biased and dishonest. This is the only review that has done so and I do not believe it was an honest review, so I called it out. Everyone is saying that this is better than DR, yet here we are watching a video comparing physics and FFB to Forza Horizon...

    • @GDUBMX
      @GDUBMX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe, just maybe he's being honest and the mass "influencers" are just going through the motions of bigging it up? RallyTechnical has been the most blatant so far with his comments when asked if its more a sim or arcade/simcade: @RALLYTechnical
      "Sim! RBR modded ain't got nothing on EA Sports WRC. It's way better than DR2.0. Light years ahead of KT's WRC games. It's the game we have all been waiting for."@@m4dalex478 make of that what you will, i certainly dont buy it until i try it. however, i think it will still be fun but honesty is hard to come by today

  • @cedricdelille6014
    @cedricdelille6014 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like RBR encaptured the best what a rally driver has to do, but WRC encaptures best what it feels like to be a rally driver. It still gives you a challenge but you feel awesome driving through the stages with speed only a real rally driver would be able to achieve.

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    AFAIK rally cars have crazy steering assist. It's not so much about feel as not killing your arms doing the stages.

    • @TitaniusAnglesmith
      @TitaniusAnglesmith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you mean power steering? That won't straighten the wheels, just make it easier to spin the wheel

  • @LukiR33
    @LukiR33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If it is at least at DR2 level than I'm happy. Can't wait to play proper WRC career with real locations and modern visuals. I'd rather claw my eyes out than look at RBR graphics for another minute 😂 I have like 500+ hours in it...

    • @buttorr
      @buttorr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the visuals dont come close to DR2 sadly praying the next one can be like DR2

  • @clintbeacock7663
    @clintbeacock7663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thanks for going in-depth (ish) into the damage model and crash repercussions. I wish it were far more unforgiving (I wish that for DR2.0 as well, and it sounds like this is even more forgiving)
    I understand that it's probably a blast if that's the kind of game you want out of it, but I really wish they'd add a 'hardcore' mode or something that doesn't let you drive on in circumstances that would be race (or career/life) ending.
    As it is, probably not for me, but I hope it does well, as it looks amazing for what it is meant to be

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Removed Automatic car reset when you fall down a cliff and preventing all the damage would be a first start. That was bs in DR

    • @ZX3000GT1
      @ZX3000GT1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the biggest issue is thinking that wasting that extra time and putting more dev cost to making sure it’s a hardcore simulation with proper damage and physics is justified when there are only a subset of people that even cared for them, vs the most people that don’t even care how the window glass break or how the grip is too much. Doesn’t make sense to cater to then niche and putting more dev time and cost when most people don’t even care about that.

    • @clintbeacock7663
      @clintbeacock7663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear you, but I think it could be feasible to add a hardcore mode. Not a physics overhaul, but rather more like cranking a damage slider all the way to the max, and disabling car resets, and of course any driving aids.
      I may end up getting this anyways. It does look like great fun, and the stages look amazing.

    • @bigglyguy8429
      @bigglyguy8429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZX3000GT1 People don't even care... yet there's a 20 year old game fans love so much they mod it themselves and it's superior to this 'new' game?

    • @ZX3000GT1
      @ZX3000GT1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigglyguy8429 Fans doesn't mean most people lol. Sales revenue of RBR was much lower than much less realistic but much more popular rally games like Colin McRae or PS2 WRC games. Hell, I'm sure Sega Rally Revo sells more than RBR and that's literally a pure arcade rally game.
      I think you missed my point - it's not about how is it still having a following decades after release. It's about revenue, popularity, sales figures - basically what for profit companies care for. It's great to dream, but the reality is most publishers would never put money into a game that will only attract a subset of players. That's why we're seeing this and not Dirt Rally 3.0 or something like that.

  • @mesasartworks
    @mesasartworks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dirt Rally 20. has not got enough grip especially on tarmac. (KT's WRC has more grip on tarmac and less on dirt)
    IRL the awd cars (my experiences based on driving a frog-eye Subaru Impreza STI Gr .N car) has massively more grip on gravel than in any game released, even in RBR if you did the right tyre choice, and the cars brakes surprisingly harder than yaou can feel in any game, because of the fact pushed loose surface ahead of the tyre can help to slow the car better
    I had no chance to try EA WRC yet, and i just hope i will not shocked about the grip levels comes with it. Keepin my fingers crossed, and still playing RBR as many free times i can get

  • @Redslayer86
    @Redslayer86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can't feel it obviously from a video, but it looks a lot like DR 2.0
    Which if it is, I'm happy. Game wasn't perfect, but I had a lot of fun with it.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It looks more like wrc to me. It has way too much grip to be taken seriously as a successor to dirt rally

  • @ennxxea
    @ennxxea 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for you good review but what would you say is the better rally simulation in terms of realism and overall feeling.. Wrc 2023 or Dirt rallye 2.0

  • @TMGaming
    @TMGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video mate, probably the best rally game we've had in a while, becoming the best of both worlds (DiRT Rally and WRC). Can't wait to try and livestream it, unfortunately I can't call myself a youtuber anymore so I didn't have the blessing of the early access 😂 But you've made the best video on the early acces version so far, I've learned everything I wanted to know about the game!

  • @TheSchnitzelable
    @TheSchnitzelable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RBR has been mentioned countless times trough out the years of WRC and Dirt evolutions. I can't imagine myslef ignoring this 20yo game while developing a new title... but they've ignored it and here we are... It could really become the new standard for this genre.

    • @waltlock8805
      @waltlock8805 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      RBR has become a religion. Believe it or not, modern rally cars are designed to be responsive. Anything that feels "different" is deemed to be "wrong". Btw, even "full on sims" like iRacing and Asseto Corsa gamify many of the physics. Games will never be pure simulators.

    • @TheSchnitzelable
      @TheSchnitzelable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waltlock8805 True sometimes I feel like we are the problem constantly chasing realism. I used to have a blast in CMR 2.0 on PS1 with a gamepad and it was amazing :D I've tried to ignore RBR until today when I installed it and immediately felt like this is right it should feel like this. I watch a lot of real rally god bless the hungarians who fill the stages with amazingly built Ladas. I used to drift my swaped E30 and learned to drive in a trabant and later got a lada when I was like 11 I drove only on dirt roads my whole childhood. I'm saving up for another car but it's so expensive to do rally even on amateur level for my own pleasure. So I've assembled a cheapo sim rig till I get into a proper car but this sim racing is so amazing it taught me a lot about car handling. I'm looking for a piece of land to buy to make something like a stage if I won't be able to build a car with homologation parts and race. I wrote to kunos if they could finally beat this 20yo RBR and set a new standard for rally sim after they released AC2 this could be a nice challenge for them.

    • @-IE_it_yourself
      @-IE_it_yourself 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well said. why would i pay 300bucks plus for a sim set up just to drive an arcade game... i dont get this, "you dont really want a sim" ... YES! ! DO!

  • @fullsendsimracing
    @fullsendsimracing 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When it comes to rally games the phrase "you can't have your cake and eat it too" comes to mind. If it's a real sim it's so niche that there'd be barely any people driving it. That's why every single rally title apart from RBR is adjusted for the averga user to not rage quit after 3 restarts. Same for this one. Shame that they go above and beyond to convince us its a real sim

  • @Herbertoes
    @Herbertoes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    See the criticism here is on point, i could probably agree with all of your arguments if I could have the game installed, but you have to remember the game is still a work in progress, so hopefully the things you have mentioned will be fixed/patched sooner or later

  • @radityaindera3442
    @radityaindera3442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the physics an upgrade from the 2.0 though? Seems like it's not?

  • @alejandromontoyavel
    @alejandromontoyavel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im from the future is year 2050 and we still stuckd in PS4 graphics...

  • @jacquesjtheripper5922
    @jacquesjtheripper5922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too bad it seems farther from a sim now.
    Also, the collisions arent so good, sometimes driving over a bigger gravel is like hitting a wall,
    And when hitting a weak fence, fence doesnt even break..

  • @toshidaboshi
    @toshidaboshi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love DR2.0 because it's such an awesome rally experience too! So I expect I will love this game even more. Racing games is about the fantasy of being a racing driver for me. Also even though I wish it was a bit more punishing especially with all assists off, it's not like it's exactly easy to master.
    It's a fantasy, an expetience and a challenge. I can't wait!

    • @codeonion
      @codeonion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Try richard burns rally and you will know how awesome of a rally sim it is

    • @toshidaboshi
      @toshidaboshi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@codeonion I have trivd it. Rally Sim Fans versjon ofc :)

  • @DoWorkNP
    @DoWorkNP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So youre saying its a dumbed down dirt rally? Well that sucks and is terrible. Since i think most of us were hoping it would be atleast a little more sim than the dirt rally games lol. Youre the first sim racing uoutuber who has said this so I guess we will see. Hopefully the game comes to gamepass so i can try for free first. Or maybe the EA thing.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's the first one being honest, but basically all the others implied the same things if you listen carefully to their word choice.

  • @fkykas
    @fkykas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well replays look better than dirt rally, it even looks like with some tweaking the physics could be quite realistic

  • @LiljamezZz
    @LiljamezZz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    tbh beamng has been my go to car game rn idk what it is cause i've always loved the game for years since it was in demo but ever since i've got my laptop to start working properly the only car game i've wanted to play is beamng and its extremely fun even though im on controller but im not gonna act like i've gained some skills on the sticks from playing a ton of assetto corsa on controller 😄

  • @mostwanted2kay
    @mostwanted2kay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This game is a great simcade to put WRC back on the map. It's been too long since WRC got a good game with hype behind it.

  • @sten360
    @sten360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was an abrupt ending, I thought my youtube player crashed for a moment lmao

  • @zandergrahamz
    @zandergrahamz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for choosing my country Kenya as a good example..you should visit for the actual rally😅🇰🇪🇰🇪

  • @SimracerKlausi
    @SimracerKlausi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:22 perfect words for rally🎉
    I love a good old yeeee haaaa after a thrilling section i did flat out 😂

  • @ElShogoso
    @ElShogoso 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As a gamepad player, I'm glad it isn't on the same ballpark as RBR. I don't really want a perfect simulation, I just want to play pretend rally driver.

    • @Skumtomten1
      @Skumtomten1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      RBR was made for console as well, it has amazing gamepad customization on pc. It is a myth that you need a steering wheel for that game. It plays way better than any Codemaster game, even with a gamepad.

    • @nindschaYT
      @nindschaYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a cap. No where I can be as fast in RBR v DR with gamepad. @@Skumtomten1

    • @wotever99ninynine
      @wotever99ninynine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats incredibly selfish of you. dirt rally and rbr were still playable on a controller. and since this is technically supposed to be the sequel to dirt rally 2, just now with the wrc license. its not very fair for it to be dumbed down to people like you that never played the prequels.
      you can make a sim playable on gamepad, but you cannot make an arcade game playable on a wheel. there are no assists to make arcade games more realistic, but there are assists to make hard games easier.

    • @nindschaYT
      @nindschaYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bro woke up and chose violence@@wotever99ninynine

  • @kennythemeat
    @kennythemeat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i dont see a lot of progression in racing games. the drivers look like glued to the seats and they barely move. in terms of wrc games i still stick to the second one.

  • @teleport96
    @teleport96 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What the F with graphics.... I just cannot understand that.

  • @Guerilla_G
    @Guerilla_G 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It still uses the code mastered centre pivot physics model so no way it can be a sim

  • @DctrBread
    @DctrBread 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i mean for the marketing to so aggressively tout the simulated detail in the game, yes I do indeed expect a high-fidelity and generalist model under the hood. In the end, it's a game that's almost all about driving. Not saying that they couldn't make a game that had more to it than just a great model under the hood, but that isn't the game we're looking at, these games are about pure driving.
    If I was looking at a game that had you building a project car, showing up to the rally, navigating between stages, co-driving for your friends and doing recce runs together, getting room and board with your team, and gameplay around repairs and mechanical upkeep, for instance, then I would quite forgive an overly simplistic handling model

  • @W4ZEL
    @W4ZEL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wait, actual RBR enthusiasts seriously expected EA and Codemasters to match the simulation aspects of RBR in a WRC game ? Of course it was never going to be replacing RBR lmao, it will still be extremely fun and much more approchable than RBR could ever possibly be, and in my opinion, that's not a bad thing by a long shot.

    • @GDUBMX
      @GDUBMX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      and us RBR modded fans still get to play RBR modded and EA WRC :)

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a very bad thing for dirt rally or rbr fans. A good thing for casual wrc players

    • @W4ZEL
      @W4ZEL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@socks2441 lmao in what world is that a bad thing ? It's not like those games suddenly disappear as soon as this one releases.

    • @wotever99ninynine
      @wotever99ninynine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he is right actually. if you didnt know dirt rally 3 was cancelled and renamed ea sports wrc after codemasters obtained the wrc license and ea obtained codemasters.
      there likely wont be another dirt rally game at least until their license contract expires. if ever. you are correct that rbr will still exist though of course.@@W4ZEL

    • @W4ZEL
      @W4ZEL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wotever99ninynine It's just a name ... This is literally what Dirt Rally 3 would have been, except it has official WRC cars and stages. Is that such a bad thing ?

  • @xcel1130
    @xcel1130 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A lot of people including a lot of viewers and commenters I see here. Don’t seem to understand that a full simulation rally game simply is not profitable. It’s too niche to make enough money for it to be worth it. Big companies like EA/and WRC for that matter at the end of the day need to hit a mark and make money. I’ve said before and I’ll say it again. A “next gen rbr” isn’t going to come from a major studio. But rather a product of passion. As any true rally simulation would be a money pit and likely have no licensing low end sounds. Less the great optimization etc. there’s trade offs that have to be made. Be happy we are getting anything at all.

  • @mondodimotori
    @mondodimotori 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, it's a branded sport game, of course it would've been, more like the F1 series, a simcade. I actually don't remember claims about the "quintessential rally sim" in official marketing. Looks more like a people expectation because it was worked by the same people responsible for "Dirt Rally" 1 and 2, forgetting they also made the Colin Mcrae Rally series (followed by the Dirt series) wich it was, in fact, much more arcade.
    Thus we should've expected an officially licensed CMR game, and I expected that. If the game delivers that, I'm more than happy.

  • @sebastianzarek7056
    @sebastianzarek7056 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You're the first big youtuber that points these problems out. My local, less than 2k subs youtuber pointed exactly the same problems, and he's in sim racing 99% For rallying.

  • @daveyishere55
    @daveyishere55 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm actually quite happy it seems more accesibke 😅

  • @kostinho790
    @kostinho790 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your music selection on this video is IMPECCABLE. Kudos to you m8!

  • @gseric4721
    @gseric4721 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This sounds like _Video Game Central_ in the handling physics department 😭😭😭😭

  • @DavyGy
    @DavyGy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you cannot expect something like Richard burns rally from a commercial title bruh

  • @szymonski1905
    @szymonski1905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Putting „The Chain” in the best bit was awesome 🤘🏼

  • @marekkos3513
    @marekkos3513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great video.WRC will be the best racing game of the year , thats fo sure !.Cant wait

  • @notyalc999
    @notyalc999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The car doesn't care if you're steering more than 13 degrees 😂😂 such a shame fuck me i was so frustrated last night, if you want to send the car sideways make sure to have the wheel straight, countersteer its forbidden

  • @wayne79.
    @wayne79. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:35 you can’t help but let out a sound ye didn’t even know you was capable of 😂😂😂🤌🏼 tears laughin

  • @quitw4392
    @quitw4392 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like a fun game. The review confused me because everyone is saying something else. But it's all subjective opinion and I was wondering what you would say.

  • @Rambowjo2
    @Rambowjo2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your vid ended so abruptly I thought something was wrong with YT.

  • @las10plagas
    @las10plagas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is the first and only video I'll watch on the new WRC, because I don't want to spoil myself.
    but someone PLEASE tell me, that spectators are not just standing there and wait for me to crash into them, but run out of the way
    and PLEASE tell me this automatic reset bullshit is gone! PLEASE.
    otherwise the game is just the same as all previous WRC/Dirt Rally games...

  • @Nfl_fan_12
    @Nfl_fan_12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tf you mean a the best rally experience am I the only one who experiences understeer when using the handbrake in gravel the car understeering after making it oversteer the racing line being fucked by some busch that is undestrictable and spinning out on asphalt for no reason

  • @MrGulyo
    @MrGulyo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This game is not for rally drivers 🤦🏼 but for gamers. I play RBR and Dirt2 too and love both. ❤

    • @Cape1984
      @Cape1984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting to read that… specially if you have not tried it yet. Basically you are not a rally driver then…

    • @tonymunford5804
      @tonymunford5804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you on about 🤔

  • @krdjmtc
    @krdjmtc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is RBR the only rally sim available?

    • @chopsuey4698
      @chopsuey4698 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In terms of realistic physics, there's also asseto corsa + mods (only on asphalt) and especially beamng drive... but it's not comparable to a game dedicated to rally with the career mode, co-driver etc...

  • @bobuiux
    @bobuiux 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it pleases me as a WRC fan, and deeply disappoints me as a rally sim enthusiast

  • @1101-f6z
    @1101-f6z 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah, Mr. Breikcaar's legend continues.

  • @xX_Gravity_Xx
    @xX_Gravity_Xx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe we'll see some physics mods? Idk, I miss the hardcore rallysim days. But, I can enjoy this. So there's that. From what I've seen, I think DR2 was better looking. Graphics look a lot like most other Unreal games. Very sterile look to them. But I think this looks like a great start to a series. I suppose the full blown rally sim of old will likely never return. So for now, I'll be happy that we at least have devs that care about what they've given us.

  • @justinafaese2220
    @justinafaese2220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know the music audio on 3:42?

  • @Pooz30
    @Pooz30 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did this video end so abruptly?

  • @werdpc
    @werdpc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sim or not. Ive always found the codemasters rally games to be the most immersive, intense and fun racing games ever made. Been playing them since colin mcrae 1. Ever since, most racing games just feel a bit boring, and i have played a lot of them. RBR might have the physics and be the goat, but it looks like shit and lacks on the immersion. Im excited for this one.

  • @robertrossi9364
    @robertrossi9364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the best video ive seen on this game and addresses everything i care about.

  • @CATNOIR_HELLCAT_RACING
    @CATNOIR_HELLCAT_RACING 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    finally someone said it at loud...

  • @StreetComp
    @StreetComp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting review, and after reading your comments bout EA saying maybe your install was bugged, I would ask if you’ve ever driven a car on a dirt/gravel stage or circuit at high speed? IMO, this is a prereq to judging how well a game simulates driving fast on dirt/gravel! I’m not trying to be mean, I’m honestly asking. Codies says they have an actual rally driver, I think he drives in Euro Rally 3 class, who helped them so maybe they got it right? 🤔😎

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1:06 it doesn't take a rally driver to realise cars should not be driving like this

    • @StreetComp
      @StreetComp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TSRB okay thanks for the reply and I definitely enjoyed your video overall but not exactly sure what’s happening at 1:06. You should try rallycross! The autocross kind I mean :) Easiest way to get some experience on dirt

    • @portableportal
      @portableportal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TSRB yea youre just some sim dude with an opinion, let the real drivers who have driven rally irl and played the first two games in the series form an honest review about the game

  • @jayjaygolden5123
    @jayjaygolden5123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But is there anything better out there yet?

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dr 2.0 and rbr rsf. So yes.

    • @jayjaygolden5123
      @jayjaygolden5123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@socks2441 After playing this I cant agree that dr 2.0 is better. But I bet rbr 2 is. Havent played it yet though.

  • @vfx1ng407
    @vfx1ng407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why on earth is the power down on the group b cars?

  • @PacoElMapache
    @PacoElMapache 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been hesitant to buy beamng but i think i will. I really like dirt rally 2 and the engine does die on you if your mean to it but, that genuine destruction of your car really appeals to me. The physics engine is crazy. I find the damage in this game or older dirt titles to be very underwhelming. I mean if you can continue after a big crash your super lucky. Even clipping a rock might rip the wheel off. I find mechanical sympathy to be a really exhilarating part of a racing/flying sim. What are your thoughts?

    • @marcusalexander4437
      @marcusalexander4437 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you tried wreckfest? It's probably the closest you will get to beamng damage especially on the realistic damage setting and on top of that is a hell of a fun racing game it's on ps5 and PC.

  • @xom.
    @xom. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the game makes you really feel like batman

  • @glebhill6397
    @glebhill6397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think about BeamNG Rally physics?

  • @kostihouse
    @kostihouse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since it looks almost like dr2, but has much higher system demands, its exactly as i foretold - nobody will play this in VR on anything else than a 4080/4090..
    Me and my 3080 can barely run dirt rally 2 in vr..

  • @CautionBarrier
    @CautionBarrier 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the video end abruptly for anyone else or is it just me?

  • @raptorjeezus2607
    @raptorjeezus2607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ima play it when its on game pass like forza motorsport. RBR will do till then and when that wont, assetto and beamng will do it for sure

  • @imembridibuddha
    @imembridibuddha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish for WRC 24 to be like 23 but pure simulation and unforgiving as an option.
    But anyway, is WRC 23 really worse than Dirt Rally 2 in terms of simulation?

  • @_Woodhouse_
    @_Woodhouse_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As a broke filthy casual who will play this game on a gamepad, im not torn up about this game not being a sim. DR 2.0 played exceptional on gamepad and if this feels anything like that then ill be satisfied.

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      People get too bogged down in 'ItS nOt a sIM wahhh". Happens with every codies game. Gets tiresome tbh.

    • @drazenbudis7881
      @drazenbudis7881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well yeah, thats the point, you *will* be satisfied because you are the target audience for such a game and thats awesome.
      The problem arises however when the studio and their PR machine paint the picture of this being an actual sim - and it isnt.

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drazenbudis7881it’s fine. Just because you can’t feel the bugs hitting the windscreen doesn’t mean it’s trash.

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hero_Of_Olddude they are legit in tears. I’m looking forward to it sense it’s just got some cool features I want to try.

    • @waltlock8805
      @waltlock8805 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drazenbudis7881Here's a hint: If you can play it on PC or console, it isn't an actual sim. They ALL gamify the physics.

  • @svenda7401
    @svenda7401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u for a game with super grip.
    I have all games and no one is better
    At making games like codemaster.
    They have finally made a game for all players..
    The Guys who want to slide all the time...go play a drift game.
    They nailed it...all rally games since wrc 4 is not playable at all.
    We waited for this team to finally come back and make the best again..
    Thank u codemaster Guys.

  • @damian2779
    @damian2779 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Graphics are very NOT next-gen! What is wrong with that people? They look like taken from Sims 3 game

  • @totalhydration5240
    @totalhydration5240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    bad news Dirt Rally fans, Colin McRae Rally came out 25 years ago (you all are old)

    • @excite.winters
      @excite.winters 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Get off my lawn

    • @wotever99ninynine
      @wotever99ninynine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      get off my lawn too while you are at it.

    • @portableportal
      @portableportal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      jokes on you bucko

  • @frankwren8215
    @frankwren8215 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So basically it's dirt rally again as expected
    To date RBR is the only good rally sim

  • @kinga99999
    @kinga99999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved that video. But why did I find the end funny. Just cuts out of nowhere

  • @seebarry4068
    @seebarry4068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eyelid sweat is a good sign.

  • @ChadO-g5p
    @ChadO-g5p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yes its a EA owned game. Of course their going to make a game with very little skill gap and arcadey as they can. They are looking at the big picture here. Try to sell as many copies as possible. So yea your not going to have a full on sim game when its aimed for every man and child out there.

    • @wotever99ninynine
      @wotever99ninynine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its an odd choice though since codemasters best selling games as of late have been the dirt rally games, not the arcade ones. and then ea bought them, so why not carry on with that success and instead try and make an arcade game that has been proven to no longer be what players want?

  • @lucasgraeff5391
    @lucasgraeff5391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    will this game make me feel like I felt playing DiRT2?

  • @thecloud1432
    @thecloud1432 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have jello in America lol

  • @nillarafael3883
    @nillarafael3883 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every other review / preview I've seen have said that, while not a 100% rbr esque sim full on with everything, it's closer to reality and better than dirt rally 2. Therefore it's really rather difficult to understand this video here. Perhaps it is a bug, because... Well did you just compare what is essentially Dirt Rally 3.0 to Forza Horizon??!

  • @someasiandude2008
    @someasiandude2008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    have you tried Art Of Rally

    • @CAL1MBO
      @CAL1MBO 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Garbage

  • @sw1tchu
    @sw1tchu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Really underwhelmed by the damage model tbh. RBR always keeps me at the edge of my seat (even if sometimes the cars are a bit too easy to break completely), knowing that a single mistake can make you DNF.

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hearing "i think the gearbox is broken" after lightly tapping a tree with your bumper isn't the one icl

    • @rocksen9283
      @rocksen9283 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Ah yes, the RBR damage model where losing the radiator still keeps the engine cool as long as you have a working water pump. And hay bales crunching your gearbox when bumped at 10 kph

    • @sw1tchu
      @sw1tchu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@TSRB Oh yeah for sure, RBR is falling on the other side of the horse a lot, I know the feeling of losing my engine after hitting an unnaturally hard bush. I just wish it would be somewhere between that and what I've seen in the videos so far, maybe some variety with more type of mechanical faults, a bit more detailed body/chassis damage etc. There could be like an extra difficulty setting to make it more punishing than this or something. Will definitely try out the game though!

    • @sw1tchu
      @sw1tchu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rocksen9283 Ayo, I'm not saying that make the damage model exactly like RBR, but rather make a better damage model than RBR & DiRT to be punishing, but fair at low speeds. It's a 20 year old game at this point full of janky things. The reason I brought it up is because if I yeet my car at 100 km/h+ into a forest full of trees, or if I roll my car straight into a rock face, I shouldn't be able to continue most of the time imo

    • @rocksen9283
      @rocksen9283 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sw1tchu I feel like the first Dirt game (and I mean the first Dirt, not Dirt Rally) had the best and in-depth damage model. You had at least 12 parts that could be damaged or get worn and it was punishing like you described. Australian stages would wear your radiator and water pump more, bumpier stages would wear the dampers more, it was awesome. I wish such an in-depth damage system would return. The closest we've got is RBR which can damage said components if the setup of your car is not done right, but the first Colin McRae Dirt was perfect

  • @민-s8m
    @민-s8m 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was best video about new wrc game. Thank you!!

  • @ImCrz
    @ImCrz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was really exited for this game, mainly because it was supposed to be the first rally sim with triple monitor support. But then i heard it's not happening so i think i'm not going to get it after all. That really feels like false advertisement imo.

  • @twenzepenguin4240
    @twenzepenguin4240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cant wait to test this looks alot of fun!

  • @CobraAce04
    @CobraAce04 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nothing's ever gonna catch up to RBR (simply because nothing WANTS to) but I dare say looking at people play this game, it's infinitely better than the rancid handling model in DiRT Rally 2.0 where the cars are not physically on the road and the cars feel like they're being pulled by an invisible horse

    • @waltlock8805
      @waltlock8805 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or maybe RBR was surpassed years ago, but the faithful don't want to let go... Just because it doesn't feel like RBR doesn't mean it's wrong.

    • @CobraAce04
      @CobraAce04 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waltlock8805 vanilla RBR was surpassed a year after it came out. But the popular current versions of RBR like RSF RBR have a hyper dedicated team of modders making very believable very high quality physics that put it on par with actual sims. That’s why it’s regarded as a leader.
      That said, as a game it’s missing immersion features and game mechanics like a career mode or single player progression.
      While I know Codemasters uses a more arcade styled philosophy to create their physics engine, they SEEM to have tuned it very well here so the car feels believable and immersive. DiRT Rally 2.0 felt terrible because the pivot point was in a terrible spot which made it feel undrivable (while DiRT rally 1 made more sense).
      I will be buying EA WRC though. I think the physics are good enough and there’s so much more game here

  • @woozie3241
    @woozie3241 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    have you tried getting good?

  • @yannwymann8796
    @yannwymann8796 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I m just waiting for VR support to buy it 😊

  • @hericlesfilho2149
    @hericlesfilho2149 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    abrupt ending, buy really good video, ty

  • @mobilechikane8574
    @mobilechikane8574 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks pretty meh compared to the KT WRC games and RBR.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also mrh compared to the dirt rally games

  • @BSDShoes
    @BSDShoes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not gonna lie, this seems troubling. Love RBR, CMR and DR2, all the WRC titles aside maybe WRC 7 and 10 were terrible. Given that this is made by Codemasters, but EA obtaining them seems to have changed how they make this game, EA likes to attract arcade type fans so I wouldn't be surprised if the physics fall short in this game even if you set all the assists off. DR2 was plagued with that tarmac issue that feels like driving a boat on a smooth lake at 6am in the morning which I hear has been improved in this game.
    I'm the kind of person that buys every sim racing game out there, but I'm skipping this one- mainly because of EA.

    • @tonymunford5804
      @tonymunford5804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrc9 and 10 and the Original Dirt are the best .

  • @riks7256
    @riks7256 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'm so sad man, i was hoping for a good improved physics engine or something, but no, shitty gameplay and good graphics seems the way to go now...unfortunately i think beamng is still the best "new rally sim" we have (excluding RBR of course)

  • @Frankestein01nl
    @Frankestein01nl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From seeing their own gameplay video, i cancelled the order.... i'll wait till after release. Thanks for the detailed review.

  • @cam_machi
    @cam_machi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that how the video was meant to end?

  • @bennyb.1742
    @bennyb.1742 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    RBR cultist spotted.