Good topic. This might get long so hold up! My first toolbox was an old snap-on box from the 80’s that my father passed down to me. It was gorgeous! Covered in stickers and I ruined it by taking them all off and making it clean....yes I ruined it by cleaning it up. Then I made a huge mistake by trading that sentimental box in for a used bluepoint box. It was actually really nice but in hindsight I should have kept my dad’s box. It served me well for a lot of years. Then my dealership built a brand new building with supplied boxes and I sold my box for dirt cheap(and more than I payed) and worked out of company supplied boxes for about 6 years. I have always wanted a nice beautiful box. With having a supplied box I focused on tools. Then when I left Toyota I was already making money on TH-cam. So I bought my toolbox. She’s my pride and joy and man do I work hard to keep it! I put in long hours at the shop after shop hours just to make videos to pay for it. But I’m fortunate enough to say that my tool bill never comes out of my paycheck from work and my family doesn’t suffer. Point is, focus on the tools, then when your ready buy that box you have always wanted. My opinion. Goddamn I should have kept my dad’s box. It was gorgeous. Old and beautiful.
The Snap-On Tool Review hindsight is always 20/20. I would love a snap on toolbox but I will never pay that much. Heck maybe that's why I like watching the vids we can always dream right. Sentimental things sometimes are the hardest to not change as you want to have something and make it your own. My guess is that's where you were headed and why you took off stickers. Sentimental things are not meant to be our they are meant to be a reminder. A tool box is meant to be used that's a problem we all run into from time to time I hope that this makes sense. Thanks for commenting
I started out with a harbor freight cart. Had about 3 layers of tools in each drawer. In the morning I would come into work and lay out all my tools on my bench and work like that. Did that for 8 months while I bought tools. Then one day my shop foreman (been a Bmw tech sense 83 and a foreman sense 93) came up to me and said hey I want to sell my box full of tools for 8k!!!!! Talks to my Snap-On dealer and he shit his pants. Said there was 50k worth of tools in there. So I bought it. Use every penny I had to buy it. Best decision I ever made. The box was a klr1023. It was huge. I sold it to a friend for 3200$ and bought a Mac 1500 with a 1720 top from an old airplane mechanic. The airplane mechanic told me the box was older than I am. I love my old Mac box. Paid 1300$ for the set up. I’ll keep this set up for the remainder of my career. At some point I’ll have to add a locker but I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. Tool boxes are glorified 5 gallon buckets. No need to mortgage one! Great vid thanks for posting
I say it all the time, tool needs before tool wants, you want a Snap On or Matco tool box but you need sockets wrenches . Bruce I totally agree with this video!
Flat Rate Master, Yeah but how much money have you blown on cheap boxes or smaller ones that you've had to upgrade the size over the years. I've been there. I'm sure you've been twisting wrenches longer than me and I've wasted almost 30k on boxes alone. I tell the apprentices to buy once and buy for they're carrier. I think techs need to shop around, Snap-on is not the best product out there as far as quality, price or longevity. However good warranty means a lot especially with the price tag some tools go for.
first box... $150 craftsman used for 20 years... second box for me $350 hf box 13drawer bottom 4 years so far.. first box got moved by the lathe and mill to be used for that tooling amount of money wasted NONE!!!\
Truth! This happened to me but due to different circumstances. I transitioned from aviation to diesel because of an awesome opportunity to get my diesel license and grow rapidly within the company. I took stools on an account from two trucks and was paying about 400 a month. The economy crashed, no more OT, no more growth, my hours got cut and I could not pay my bills. I used credit cards to cover my bills and got doomed. Good thing I as single and young. I learned from my mistakes and would hate for this to happen to anyone else. Needles to say I went back to the Airlines as a mechanic with lessons learned, bills and tail between my legs. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. There’s more to the story, but that’s the short version. I paid off one account and let them repo the other, which was my box. I bought a husky, paid all my bills, and bought a Matco three bay that fits ALL my tools. Sometimes we have to learn the hard way and pick our selves back up. I try telling my story to new mechanics so they don’t go through the same. Thanks for the video man.
I turn wrenches 8 days a week,no hobbies no time for extra activities except for building a tool set and having my epic to put them in keeps me going and trying to push myself harder everyday. Nice video and editing
This was how I was when I first started out. Everyone was telling me to buy a Snap-on toolbox and was on the fence. Went out to Harbor Freight and Bought a 44in box then added a side cabinet for a grand total of 500 bucks. I know I have over 5k in just tools at this time and recently I have noticed I am needing more space and possible will upgrade to a bigger box. This video is very good advice for people starting out in the business.
I used that box with 2 side cabinets for 9 yrs. Sold it for exactly what I paid for it. It was every bit as functional as the Mac I have now. I bought that Mac after 25 yrs of wrenching.
Solid advice. I started with a piece of garbage box. I've upgraded 6 times in the last 21 years. I bought a bigger box each time I needed more room. Now I have a big KRL box with a locker and a tool cart. Everything is full. The reason I have so much, is that I was the only technician in the shop for a long time but there were other people working there. I had no one to share with but if the tools were not locked up in my box I would waste time looking for them. Sometimes I would waste 2 hours a day looking for tools. I have a lot of Snapon stuff now about half of it was used and bought for a super deal. When I started in the trade, I only bought tools from Snapon when I had to. Most of the stuff I got was low or mid quality. Later on, I started getting the better stuff. For example, I had a Chinese tubing bender, we used to do a lot of fuel and brake lines. It lasted over 15 years and I fixed it once. But when it broke again I replaced it with a high quality Blue Point. I've done similarly with many tools. Don't be afraid to start with cheap tools.
I wholeheartedly agree with your advice and am gratified that someone of your stature had the backbone to state it so well. Too many people seem to fall into the trap of being "collectors" and not "users" of toolboxes and tools!
HUSKY 56 in. 23-Drawer Tool Chest and Rolling Cabinet Set, Textured Black Matte. 56 in. Width x 20 in. Depth x 64.9 in. Height Storage cap. 37,795 cu. in. / Total loading weight cap. 2,500 lbs Soft Close Drawers with 100 lb. Rated Ball Bearing Slides $998.00 /each If I was to go out tomorrow and getting a Toolbox this is the Box I would get. It's plenty Big and if not Buy 2 and you're still saving a shit load of money that you could spend on TOOLS. So, Bruce, I agree with you and the toolbox isn't what makes the money it's the tools and the man or women behind the tools that make the money. Loved This Video Keep Up The Good Work.
Completely agree! I see guys coming fresh out of UTI, Wyotech, ect with brand new loaded snap on boxes $30k+ in the hole and i think to myself, jesus christ what if this doesnt work out for them? Not only student loans but the snapon guy knocking on their door. Great advice taken from my FIL, Master Ford ASE tech for over 35 years, it doesnt matter the name on the tool as long as it gets it done. Hes been turning wrenches for over 40 years, and now even at the peak of his career still uses a old craftsman box and a mix of tools. He owns alot of snapon specialty tools and diag tools, but other than that its alot of older mixed brand. And you know what, it gets the job done as has been getting the job done for many many years. EDIT: And my FIL being stringent and not spending all his money on the tool man, working and saving his whole life, is near retirement in a nice 4500sqr feet home on 5 acres. Its all about priorities.
30k for a snap on box damn… idk whose selling you these boxes but they’re ripping you off😂 specially for some one fresh out of uti most guys at my shop have the 55inch Box which is around 4K plus Interest depending on your credit… but I got to agree I rather spend the money buying the tools the box I’ll wait for later… right now I got a budget husky box from home depot it does the job.
I know a lot of young techs which are in trouble. Some make excuses that it's okay. Some are more honest and try to teach others. I've had basic tool boxes and I hope I never make that mistake to get an expensive Snap On or Matco toolbox when we need to save up for when you need the next vehicle. In the meantime, I keep buying tools I need when I can, and other guys keep making payments trying to not lose what they have. I'm really appreciative of the video tune up of living financially smart. :)
I didn't stay working as a mechanic, moved on to college and other things... but I did go through this once. I had myself a 34" Craftsman with friction slides from the 1980s. I paid a friend $400 for it because it was in good shape and more solid than the 90s and early 00s stuff being offered at the time. Ended up packing it with plenty of tools and still had some satellite boxes holding lesser junk. I moved on, but I never stopped learning or turning wrenches on my own stuff, or on the side for cash and favors, and I still have that cheap old Craftsman, now covered with stickers. (makes it that much faster) I have enough now that I've outgrown it plus an HF tool cart, and thought about going the chinese box route, but when I saw that you can get a good condition Snap-on or Matco 4S 55" for a mere $2,000 or even a little less, double 40" sets for the same money.... I'd advise anyone to save the cash and buy used American, or get a china box if your ideals allow it. (mine don't for something that expensive, personally) I had a lot of friends over the years, many mechanics, and I've seen tons of guys who didn't stay doing the job, and had to take a huge loss when they moved on, or simply struggle to make the payments along the way. Tool trucks are the devil for a new tech. Start with something small and cheap, and make a list of what you need most. Start crossing it all out as you buy- and there's always a good balance of value and quality. Don't overlook the cheaper American brands, or carrying doubles of certain cheaper tools in case one breaks. THEN save up some cash and get a solid USA made box for a few grand and let someone else take the hit on new prices. These things are less than 50% of new in just a few years, not at all like what the tool truck owner will tell you. Don't believe me? Look on C list or Facebook right now. Especially at Christmas time.
I started with a cheap little Craftsman top chest and made do with that until I filled it with the necessary tools that it could hold. About a year later I stepped up to a small Mac top &bottom . Today’s roll carts are bigger than my tool box was. That worked for several more years as I filled it with more necessities. After about five years I was ready to step up bigger. I stayed in that box for about 10 years. I purchased my last box in 2000. Sure, I slobber at all the newer boxes but there’s no way in hell a man my age is going in debt for a new box. I’ve learned to appreciate what I have.
You are totally right. I have been in this business for 30 years licensed.The tools dont make the mechanic. I had a beach box since 1987 kept adding on cabinets for more storage. Had to fabricate a frame for the wheels due to the old ones going through the bottom. Had this one up until 2009 then got a job with a Freightliner dealership 3 years previous. They paid me very well I mean almost 33% better than before at 44 years old I thought screw this I have put in my time I bought a Snap on tool box. Off hand don,t know what model it is just know its the one that is advertised with a dump truck sitting on 6 boxes.Electric orange was the colour I got. Was unique back then now Mac and Matco have the same uh. Today move this thing around the shop over uneven ground and with at least 1,000 pounds of tools in it I will have one wheel leave the ground. This thing is built like a tank. Back to the subject and you are right on the subject DO NOT BUY A SNAP ON BOX until you are established financially.At 52 years looking forward to retirement and having a storage unit that will outlast me.
I started with a craftsman wana be tool box. Used it for 10 years sold it to my buddy he still has it. Now as small engine technician moved up to harborfreight 5 dawr mean green. Been waiting snapon for years. I think its going to happen. Good information!
I have my first 1977 Craftsman setup plus a 1990s Mac box both without roller slides. I just did a timing belt on a chrysler and it was what was inside the boxes that helped me get the work done.
At 2:35 he began his emphasis. I like a nice box however. I aquired a 12k krl1163 box for 4k from snap on repo. Sold my 2007 matco double bay. Extreme are cool too. Craftsman industrial
You are so right - I'm been doing this for over 45 years and yes I have a big snap on equipped box with 4 side locker with overheads - over the years I trade up to get here, I see it all the time the new guys go big right off and they have NO tools and now can't make there payment. Get your tools first...
For those that don't have credit or good credit, don't forget about places that still to layaway. I did a video last week on a sweet Craftsman black Friday pre-sale event. I was able to get a pretty nice box that was normally $740 for $299 and use free cash points for $30 more off and then put it in layaway and make payments on it over time. This saved me from having to use money right now I will need for the holidays to lock in a sweet deal on a box. I know Craftsman isn't the best, but a lot of their stuff will work for a while and you can make payments on it. And they are having a ton of sweet deals right now. Plus there are still some really nice craftsman USA made tools like the pry bars, wire strippers, turbo sockets, craftsman pro wrenches, etc.
I totally agree with you and a great video. When I started my career as a body man I had my set of tools I bought back in 1996 and it was the Nascar Craftsman tool set and one Snap-On ratchet screw driver and a set if body hammers. I worked out of a tackle box so by the time I could by a tool box I had saved up to pay for it in one payment which by then I went from a heavy equipment painter to a body shop. In 2004 I desided to put the toolbox on my credit card and my parents told me to pay off the credit card in 3 payments and at the same time build your credit. I bought the Craftsman Professional which I was very happy about. I even had money left over and spent the rest on tools. To this day when I buy tools I have the money and won't do it in payments on the tool truck. If I don't have the money for the tool I don't buy it and yes it's taking me long to build up on tools but I have no monthly payment. I know bodyman don't need tools like mechanics do. But after three years of owning my box I had to put a side box on and to this day I completely filled and need a bigger box. So to all the up and coming mechanics and bodymen. Buy tools first to build up and make money cause no matter how big how much or brand of tool box you have it will never make you money. Your brain your tools and hands make you money and your toolbox just stores or your tools. Hey Bruce Allen here's maybe for a next video about this type of subject. With I gave myself a tool allowance from every paycheck. So I did either $50 or $100 out of each paycheck and just saved tell I could buy a tool or tools
I started with a cheap $50 stanley box . Once i started making some money and getting more tools, i bought a Milwaukee bottom box for $300. I found a overstock warehouse that bought and sold overstock and scratch and dent item from homedepot. The only problem is white overspray on the bottom edge of box, which i painted over. Looks brand new now. Locks work, came with all the mats. Love it, gonna buy the too box soon for another $200-$300. Never bought from snapon or matco etc
On the other hand when my dad retired some dude drove 2000 miles to buy my dads toolbox full of tools for 0ver 60 grand im thinkin thats a nice retirement bonus dont think an inferior collection and box would have pulled this kind of cheese investment big time
Kenneth Prince thats wat he said lol guess after 30 years a heavy equipment tech a new harley road gluide and a toy hauler sounded better that a ton of tools out back in the shop
Im a heavy equipment tech too when I guess when I'm older we will see how I feel about the tools lol 30+ years of experience he must of had a very nice collection of tools I love going threw old timers toolboxes and seeing the different styles of the older tools and all the custom tools they, ive been doing it for 10years and my collection has come very far cant wait for my kids to get older and go threw it like I do my elders tools lol
Kenneth Prince thats me too ive been a tech for bout 18 years now and i know wat your talkin bout lol i snatched my fair share before he sold them belive that . I went with lighter duty work than him just because i seen the toll he put on his body! Kinda kewl checkin others tools out on this utube lol
I grew up working in my families transmission shop. The best mechanics we had could care less about the brand of box or tools. It was about getting the job done not being showy. It's a different world now, very materialistic. Good video will get a lot of views and comments
I spoke to a lady the other day who's husband recently passed. He had a custom all drawer Epiq 84 filled with Craftsman. She still has the box and can't get it to sell. Beautiful box but just to big for a home garage. I saw what they paid for it with the work station ,hutch and aide locker.. Madness...
Years ago in 1993 i bought a nice Craftsman top chest, bottom roll box, & 2 end cabinets when i worked as an aviation technician. At the time it was the biggest Craftsman box that they made. Paid a fraction of what a Snap-on box would cost. I took off the Craftsman emblems & put on Snap-on emblems. Funny thing is that most people actually thought they were Snap-on toolbox's. Now keep in mind i made damn good money & could have easily afforded a set of Snap-on boxes equivalent to the Craftsman boxes. I worked with a few mechanics that would pay ridiculous prices for a Snap-on box & even though they made good money they were so stressed with making the monthly payments, etc. that they couldn't really enjoy the boxes they had. They worked tons of overtime so they could meet the demands of what owning a Snap-on box brings. Me on the other hand paid cash for my Craftsman boxes...over & done with...& those boxes served me well for the 25+ yrs that i worked in aviation up until i retired 7 yrs. ago. Never had one issue with the Craftsman boxes except i had to replace one of the drawer slides because one of the ball bearings on the drawer i used the most just was worn out. About every 6 months i would remove each drawer & lubricate & clean the slides to keep them functioning properly. I never even had to replace the 2 top gas support strut's that held open the top box lid. Other than that i had zero issues with the boxes.
Hey friendly neighborhood welder here. I'm working on hydraulics and welding and looking to get a box big enough to deal with all that. This video was a great help. I was looking at the tool trucks that come around. It's saved me some 25,000 dollars. Get your tools you need.
I was a mechanic for 15 yrs before buying a snapon box then out grew it and got a other one paid it off and got my last one and paid 18,000 for it and 6 yrs later i became disabled and now its serting in storage full of tools and the 18,000 i could have used for bills now but will never get that back for the box i have tried to sell it many times and been lowballed so many times i gave up on selling it
I'm a diesel mechanic and when I started I had a brand 42 in Stanley box and now I still do and is getting full as hell I might get a 56in us General box but I'm not sure yet get your tools first
Good point,been in body shop for 35 yrs, started with a small craftsman, traded up over years to snap on ,bottom and top,with mac side cabnet, used for over 20yrs,you know the 35"wide20"deep,2015 bought a snap on Krl 1163,black,chrome trim,love it,bitch to keep clean in body shop,still paying on it,all most paid for
Can you buy a seperate cart with wheels, or you have to buy one that has wheels? I dont see how you can pick up a 200 pound toolbox onto a cart with wheels
Totally agree with you buddy I’m an Aircraft Mechanic with an old craftsman and mixed match tools snap on cornwell craftsman gear wrench etc what ever works I’ve seen new kids coming into the industry with big ass snap on or Matco box with drawers full of magazines and candy and no dam tools spend your money wisely not every thing has to be brand new go to pawn shops or flea markets get what you need to do the work and invest that cash
When I started my job as a heavy equipment tech, I had a Craftsman tool bag, roll of duct tape, can of wd-40, and a couple of those little Craftsman socket sets. My first check I got myself one of those US General service carts. I'm lucky enough to have a Carlyle tool rep (yes it's a thing) so that service cart filled up quick. I stepped it up just a little to a bigger General box, which filled up, so I got a Cornwell box. It was ok... but a couple weeks later my Snap-on rep had a kmp1163 at half price. So, I jumped all over it. Did I need it? No. Not really. Do I love it? Absolutely. You're giving sound advice and people should listen. I'm just fortunate enough to have my military pension and a decent pay check. I would say start small and slow, get what you need, then get what you want. If a person has to have a snappy box, then I would say get a service cart, then trade it back to your dealer for something bigger later. Set goals for yourself and work towards them. If you decide along the way that its not worth it, then you didn't really want it anyway.
Not a pro, just a DIYer. I have the US General 44" chest, but I have a question about locks. The chest is good enough for my needs, and there is no way I'd get a SnapOn box unless it was vintage and a steal. The thing I did notice is I could defeat the lock on any Husky, Kobalt or US General took box with a cheap drill, and probably even a Ryobi drill bit. Definitely Titanium coated or cobalt. Do the Snap On locks hold up much better, or are locks just going to keep honest people honest? I guess when even a safe can be defeated by a harbor freight angle grinder, its a moot point. I Assume if your mechanic shop is in a bad neighborhood, your only defense is to going to involve welding and some 1/2" thick bar stock.
Im a 16 year old apprentice technician, at a GM dealership thats my official title, i get oil changes to jobs that could be for a light repair tech. I have a craftsman 2 drawer with a empty cabinet with an over head drawer and i put the top box in there and got a husky top box, this week i purchased a snap on 40” roll cab at my student discounted price of 1300$ and i feel like i couldnt be prouder, this box will last me a lifetime and i could trade it in, and it will be reliable, name an actual reason i shouldnt have made my purchase
Where do you keep your diagnostic equipment ? I personally think they take up way to much space in my box I'm looking for a good solid locking cabinet. That's where I'm gonna keep my diagnostic equipment. Best bang for your buck.
set of shopping trolly wheels, couple of heavy duty box sextion and a few filing cabnets, make a chassis from the box section and whees, weld the cabnets to the chassis, cheapest roll cab and many options on draw layouts
You're so true I wanted a lower toolbox I went to Lowe's and found one beat the hell I paid $100 for it I'm happier than s*** I put new wheels on it already had you should talk to them about how to buy used tool boxes or slightly scratch and dent so they can save money you take care
I’m a diesel heavy equipment mechanic and I waited over ten years from being an apprentice till now to finally get a 3 bay snap on KRL box. I bought it used and paid CASH after saving up. I spent 4000$ vs the original cost of over $13000 I’m 32 and always had harbor freight tool boxes first box was a craftsman and for the money they were awesome and lasted even in harsh mining environments. I’ve never had a tool bill I’ve always paid cash. Buying tools on credit of any kind even credit cards online can cripple a person financially and I think that’s the biggest message I can relay to a young guy wanting to become a mechanic of any kind. You don’t need name brand tools for everything especially when you’re first starting out in this business. Avoid debt like the plague and it will allow you to focus more on becoming a better tech instead of worrying about how to pay an insane tool bill every week or month. Even when I buy a set of snap on wrenches or sockets I’ll buy them second hand and save half or more off list price. Between craigslist, offer up and eBay there no need to pay insane retail for tools especially a tool box! Stay out of debt!
Hey great post sir. I bought a Craftsman box, I love it, it does have nice features a little on the small side for a 52 inch, I'm filling it up with some good stuff that's the most important part
100% agreed! I had a kobalt box for 5 years and filled it up with matco and snap on tools then I bought a matco box 2 years ago and it’s almost paid off. Like he said when you get on them trucks you can go nuts but you have to be careful with your decisions because the tool trucks will give u whatever you want if you can pay the weekly payment.
it all goes back to the financial advice that i always give, you have to determine what is a want and what is a need. you buy only your needs. follow this and you will go far. once you have money after all your needs are meet, then you can afford your wants.
I have to agree with most of what you said. I took my time and did alot of horse trading to get my box. I started with a black husky that got destroyed by a thief. Next got a craftsman 40 inch and a harbor freight cart. Traded the cart for a matco cart. Traded the matco cart and some tools for an old snap on 78. Finally traded it on a cornwell custom that I ended up getting for 4k. Saved almost 6k on that box. Took 12 years, but got the box I wanted for alot less than most. And it's packed full of tools.
I’ve been turning wrenchs for close to 30 years I’ve owned several tool boxes! I started out with used snap on , Mac, boxes when I payed them off I moved up but most importantly I spent my $$$ on tools that I needed to do my job !! I to this day buy several brands of tools not just snap on ! There are good quality tools and boxes available!bottom line buy smart add as you go replace less quality tools with better quality as your pocketbook allows! The box doesn’t make the mechanic! Great video valid points thanks for sharing 👍
It's good to see a young man acquire wisdom early. You won't end up like me: 70-years old, still doing AC repairs on rusty Chevy's, and two really nice boxes (one each, MAC and Snappy) stuffed with tools. I'll bet I could have had some really nice fish'n trips to Alaska...
i got a mac box just starting out 5 moths ago been here for 11 months but i got it for 4k due to a scratch but i also have it half full with snap on tools with a brand new car with 5 miles and im stable check to check and still have money go for deals alot cheaper but i alsso had a dewalt box first got tools then the box
I think your 100% right. I look at the toolbox tours on you tube and all these people who have a snap on or Matco etc and no tools. I personally have a own 3 toolbox which I bought used one snap on I had for over 20 years
Bruce, If a person like myself that has the financial mean with the ability to purchase a good quality tool box paying for it total cash and that it will last me for a good life time without having to upgrade, but also having the ability to add onto it which tool box brand would you highly recommend besides snap on & Mac...quality structure and strength of the tool box is very important musttttt to me...TIA
I totally agree with everything you say Bruce. When I hear "Snap On makes me money" from people, I say until you own all the tools and toolbox is paid off and you have no tool debt they ain't making you money. The person that's making the money is the tool vendor.
I started out of a Harbor Freight single drawer tool cart, moved up to a Craftsman tool box, then once I filled that up I traded it in on a used Snap On tool box, filled that Snap On box up and then moved up to bigger used Snap On tool box with one side locker and a matching tool cart. Had that box for probably about 13 years. Finally decided to step step up to a monster Matco box because like everybody else buy alot of tools. I got tired of hanging everything else off the side or taking stuff home every day. I have everything from my engine brace to under hood lights in my tool box. I got tired of coming up with missing equipment, shoot even my jack stands have a home in my tool box, scan tool, you name it. Was it pricey..... yes...... but for me.... it was worth it....... No car payment for me though, but I have decent cars....... too many cars........
Totally agree! Get the tools first and then one you’re set on tools get the nice box if you can actually afford it. I started out with craftsman, but over the years was upgrading my tools to snapon. Got my first snapon box last week. Did I need it? No, but I’m at the point we’re I can afford something nice so I splurged. Still solid advice for the new guys coming into any type of mechanic industry.
i started with just a service cart the trade it got a snap on box . that ended up giving it back i focus in tools to the point that my dealer ship supply box was fill wanted again a good box but i wanted until i got a cornwell on special plus 500 off for a scratch in the back but i work hard as hell . currently im just few classes away from becoming master in nissan. with that i should be able to finish my tool truck payment to zero and will probably will not need anything else for few years
I actually have one of the lower end extreme tools 72 inch box but it was only $800 I couldn't pass it up! It's been pretty nice so far I will say this, the draws open easy 3/4 the way and some times have to give it a tug to get it all the way open.
I don't mean to be rude but how do you work out of a Husky the metal is not even a millimetre thick. well maybe a millimetre if you count the powder coat. Man you need to check out a nice Snappy roll cart or something. They are 2,500.00 bux just pull the trigger already if you havn't already.
My driver almost talked me into a new box once. Then I got to thinking about all the other shit I wanted and really needed. 2 years later I've got 2 lifts new miller welder hypertherm plasma CNC table. Still under the price of a toolbox. These tools actually bring $ thru the door
Thanks for the video I’m not a licensed mechanic I just love to work on my own car I agree with what your saying when I was living at home I can remember just buying tools and for years my upstairs bedroom closet was my toolbox I probably spent $8000.00 on tools keep in mind I buy most of my tools at Canadian tire but my room was over flowing before I bought my box and I bought it on sale it’s a master craft and servers it’s purpose for now will likely get a husky in the spring seeking as I have the tools to fill both
I met a guy that bought a Mac Box paid $14,000 just for the Box I asked,,,,and said to him are you out of your mind he said what's going to help my credit rating
You are the man Bruce, everything you have just said I've said a hundred times, yes at this time I have a snap on box but it's one from the 1980s that I found on Facebook market place for 400 dollars, for many many yrs I used a craftsman box, I took a lot of shit off the fan boys with the big boxes, any how I spent most of my money on tools and test equipment to do my job, and guess who those fan boys were always coming to and saying hey man do you have a tool I can borrow, Bruce I tell a ton of new guys, a huge fancy tool box does not make you a good tec, kudos on your vid my friend,
Yes, you really need to be smart and patient about financing if you want to spoil yourself. Ever since my first day of being a rookie mechanic, I spent over a year buying the tools I need on the spot. All I had was a small Craftsman box on top an Apollo cart I found lying around. I left no debt with the tools I bought. Didn't matter what brand. After overloading that little red Craftsman box, that's when I knew I can afford to finance a new Cornwell tool cart and afford to pay well above the minimum payment. It's been a fantastic cart for awhile now and I plan to keep it forever. I still kept the Craftsman box. Now that I'm approaching apprenticeship for heavyline car work, my car is a few months away from being paid off, my credit score is even better, and that I need the Craftsman box back home because of the lack of organization in the garage, I went ahead and got the Cornwell 54 inch Pro Series. Not too large, not too small, and not even close to as expensive as Snap-On and the like. The Cornwell salesman gave me a very affordable payment that I can still pay above, and will allow me to afford to pay for new tools on the spot without increasing my debt. Debt will only go away. That's how I'm maintaining flight.
I would have to agree with what you are saying by the most part. I bought a KRL1033 stainless top and hutch. I don't regret it. But I have about 50k in tools. I worked up to that box rather quickly. Started with a husky box, got a heritage box, moved to a classic 96 with stainless top, then to a master series. I kept running out of space. I guess it depends on what you are doing. If you are home gamer, go to lowes or sears. If you are a lubie in an auto shop, you don't need to spend a fortune for a box on wheels. I'm a diesel tech, and we work on so many different product lines that you literally need every tool imaginable. I have never paid a cent in interest. I never bought anything I couldn't pay for with cash. I like that you keep pointing out that you shouldn't put yourself in financial distress. You see it a lot with guys that are new to the trade, they get all wide eyed on the snap on truck. I bought my box because I honestly do expect it to still be rolling around the shop in 35 years.
I agree with you and a lot of people might hate it but those Harbor Freight tool boxes are actually pretty decent I had a Master Series that I sold when I went back to school and when I got out I bought a Harbor Freight 72 inch and it is pretty nice
Beach Tools all the way! I've got two vintage tall 12 drawer Beach rollers custom bolted together on 6 wheels, with a low style Beach 3 drawer roller custom converted, and widened into a 52" hutch to sit on top!
I agree with you. I started out with a Craftsman bottom box, then the top, added a used side box to get a 40" bottom. Added them as I needed. Started also with a 350 piece mechanics set from Craftsman and added needed tool's for specific tasks. I filled that box and needed more room. I had a set payment with my dealer I could afford each week that I payed each week, $30.00, just a few hrs of over time. We worked 60 to 75 hrs a week then. I got a 54" heritage top and bottom, had 3 empty drawer's when swapped out. Welding helmet, arc flash helmet and grinding face shield, Machinist tools and printing press key bars ( Snap-On used to carry them in the catalog in 1985) quickly took up the rest. So Yea you are spot on with your advice. I didn't get a epiq but got what I needed. Wife said the same thing you did, " that's a fuckin car note".
Good advice. For me. I have almost all the tools and will get semi good ones from places before tye trucks. Ill get that over time. . And my new job pre buys the tool box for each new employee to buy out slower and lower payments with no interest. So besides seeing this. I was looking for quality reasons. But good stuff because yes I was to invest in myself. But not to loose my mind over it.
That’s why I’d recommend a harbor freight box. 44” is $479 and a 72” is $1100... it’s really a no brainer when starting out. Hell I started out with a harbor freight 5 drawer roll cart for $200. Also, guys need to keep their weekly tool bill at $40 or less in order to make it and most decent tool trucks have an in-truck finance limit of $300-$500 before you have to go through snap on or Mac finance. Buy a couple things till you hit the limit and pay it off before you buy anything else. But if you gotta have it that day, go to harbor freight until you can afford good name brand tools. Jus sayin’
If you want snap on to feel special u don't need it but if you really want that for looks just go to harbor freight and buy a box pull of the stickers and buy a snap on sticker and slap it on it
I have a Husky box I spent $600 on. The only thing I dont like about it is the width. My Husky is top heavy. I will probably never buy a snap on or matco box because of the price, I have made that car analogy before too. I appreciate the advice. I just started a year ago and flagging is a whole different world, it is rough sometimes.
New to the trade, I was allotted tools but was missing some items.... I'm grateful for what I have but chose kobalt sockets over the snap on tools and the craftsman mini box over a snap on fancy box. Very well put sir the shop guys all love harbor freight and no names where I'm at and I'm right with thwm
I bought a "cheap" Heritage series Snapon box almost 20 years ago. Top, bottom, side cab and intermediate for $4600. Just traded it in for a Masters series and got $3000 trade in. The box is just as much an investment as the tools in it.
Yeah great advice. Buying as you can afford makes sense, approaching it with a business mindset, put some money to the side and wait for the deal to come your way. If youre buying snap on etc ebay is your friend, getting into the tool for the same price or less than what you can sell if for. Let someone else take the hit of new.
I agree I was in the business 10 years before I finally decided to buy my snap on box this year and I bought a master series used that will be payed off in a year
I am wondering about upgrading my box cause I have a small roll cart but I need more space for my ever expanding tools. I am a 2nd year apprentice so ive had a box and tools for a couple of years. But snap on is alot for a box. I've been looking at a box in eBay and Costco Kirkland and I could get that box and buy lots of tools with $10,000.
absolutely correct. start with a smaller box and build from there. I now own an Epic 84 with a hutch and it took me 20 years to get there. It is nice but by the tools and pack them in the smaller box
My recommendation for anyone starting out is to get a nice cart. Chances are you won’t be working in the same bay all day & I’ve seen a bunch of guys that walk across the shop multiple times to do an oil change because they don’t have a cart. If you’re getting paid by the job you’re losing money. If you’re hourly then you aren’t losing money but you also aren’t impressing the people that give you more money.
I had a buddy who wanted a snap on box.. has no clue about cost went on website priced it and tried convincing me to believe him for that price the box came filled with tools 😂
I had a old craftsmen box I got because it had little damage. I then got a Mac 1500.00 it was again damaged. When I got my own little shop I got a Mac toolbox brand-new would have been over 10000.00 . I got that for under 3000.00 only because it was a trade in and I had to many lost to many tools with the smaller box plus the snap on guy let me keep my old box too. That I sold for 1000.00. GET the tools first before you get the tool box. You are so right.
Good topic. This might get long so hold up! My first toolbox was an old snap-on box from the 80’s that my father passed down to me. It was gorgeous! Covered in stickers and I ruined it by taking them all off and making it clean....yes I ruined it by cleaning it up. Then I made a huge mistake by trading that sentimental box in for a used bluepoint box. It was actually really nice but in hindsight I should have kept my dad’s box. It served me well for a lot of years. Then my dealership built a brand new building with supplied boxes and I sold my box for dirt cheap(and more than I payed) and worked out of company supplied boxes for about 6 years. I have always wanted a nice beautiful box. With having a supplied box I focused on tools. Then when I left Toyota I was already making money on TH-cam. So I bought my toolbox. She’s my pride and joy and man do I work hard to keep it! I put in long hours at the shop after shop hours just to make videos to pay for it. But I’m fortunate enough to say that my tool bill never comes out of my paycheck from work and my family doesn’t suffer.
Point is, focus on the tools, then when your ready buy that box you have always wanted. My opinion. Goddamn I should have kept my dad’s box. It was gorgeous. Old and beautiful.
The Snap-On Tool Review Great comment Joel.
You do have a nice, beautiful box Joel. :)
The Snap-On Tool Review hindsight is always 20/20. I would love a snap on toolbox but I will never pay that much. Heck maybe that's why I like watching the vids we can always dream right. Sentimental things sometimes are the hardest to not change as you want to have something and make it your own. My guess is that's where you were headed and why you took off stickers. Sentimental things are not meant to be our they are meant to be a reminder. A tool box is meant to be used that's a problem we all run into from time to time I hope that this makes sense. Thanks for commenting
I have some vantage tools that are dear to me and I won't replace them :)
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I started out with a harbor freight cart. Had about 3 layers of tools in each drawer. In the morning I would come into work and lay out all my tools on my bench and work like that. Did that for 8 months while I bought tools. Then one day my shop foreman (been a Bmw tech sense 83 and a foreman sense 93) came up to me and said hey I want to sell my box full of tools for 8k!!!!! Talks to my Snap-On dealer and he shit his pants. Said there was 50k worth of tools in there. So I bought it. Use every penny I had to buy it. Best decision I ever made. The box was a klr1023. It was huge. I sold it to a friend for 3200$ and bought a Mac 1500 with a 1720 top from an old airplane mechanic. The airplane mechanic told me the box was older than I am. I love my old Mac box. Paid 1300$ for the set up. I’ll keep this set up for the remainder of my career. At some point I’ll have to add a locker but I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. Tool boxes are glorified 5 gallon buckets. No need to mortgage one! Great vid thanks for posting
I say it all the time, tool needs before tool wants, you want a Snap On or Matco tool box but you need sockets wrenches . Bruce I totally agree with this video!
Flat Rate Master, Yeah but how much money have you blown on cheap boxes or smaller ones that you've had to upgrade the size over the years. I've been there. I'm sure you've been twisting wrenches longer than me and I've wasted almost 30k on boxes alone. I tell the apprentices to buy once and buy for they're carrier. I think techs need to shop around, Snap-on is not the best product out there as far as quality, price or longevity. However good warranty means a lot especially with the price tag some tools go for.
first box... $150 craftsman used for 20 years... second box for me $350 hf box 13drawer bottom 4 years so far.. first box got moved by the lathe and mill to be used for that tooling amount of money wasted NONE!!!\
Jumped on the tonka truck today got me a fisher price impact, hot wheels axle nut socket to add to my LEGO wrench set.
I know you probably didn’t watch my video that I just did earlier tonight ...... but YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION !!
Koon Trucking I didn't watch it but I will.... don't take it personal... I don't really watch too many automotive channels unless they are classes.
Truth! This happened to me but due to different circumstances. I transitioned from aviation to diesel because of an awesome opportunity to get my diesel license and grow rapidly within the company. I took stools on an account from two trucks and was paying about 400 a month. The economy crashed, no more OT, no more growth, my hours got cut and I could not pay my bills. I used credit cards to cover my bills and got doomed. Good thing I as single and young. I learned from my mistakes and would hate for this to happen to anyone else. Needles to say I went back to the Airlines as a mechanic with lessons learned, bills and tail between my legs. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. There’s more to the story, but that’s the short version. I paid off one account and let them repo the other, which was my box. I bought a husky, paid all my bills, and bought a Matco three bay that fits ALL my tools. Sometimes we have to learn the hard way and pick our selves back up. I try telling my story to new mechanics so they don’t go through the same. Thanks for the video man.
I turn wrenches 8 days a week,no hobbies no time for extra activities except for building a tool set and having my epic to put them in keeps me going and trying to push myself harder everyday. Nice video and editing
Great advice Bruce, I hate to see a new guy that buys an expensive tool box but need to borrow my tools to actually do the job... Love this video
This was how I was when I first started out. Everyone was telling me to buy a Snap-on toolbox and was on the fence. Went out to Harbor Freight and Bought a 44in box then added a side cabinet for a grand total of 500 bucks. I know I have over 5k in just tools at this time and recently I have noticed I am needing more space and possible will upgrade to a bigger box. This video is very good advice for people starting out in the business.
I used that box with 2 side cabinets for 9 yrs. Sold it for exactly what I paid for it. It was every bit as functional as the Mac I have now. I bought that Mac after 25 yrs of wrenching.
I agree for the most part, but there is nothing at all wrong with having a tool box that is nicer than your car!
FrugalPrepper nice one tom if you can figure out a way to get a drive train on that snap on box you can have your own snap on truck LOL
Solid advice. I started with a piece of garbage box. I've upgraded 6 times in the last 21 years. I bought a bigger box each time I needed more room. Now I have a big KRL box with a locker and a tool cart. Everything is full. The reason I have so much, is that I was the only technician in the shop for a long time but there were other people working there. I had no one to share with but if the tools were not locked up in my box I would waste time looking for them. Sometimes I would waste 2 hours a day looking for tools. I have a lot of Snapon stuff now about half of it was used and bought for a super deal.
When I started in the trade, I only bought tools from Snapon when I had to. Most of the stuff I got was low or mid quality. Later on, I started getting the better stuff. For example, I had a Chinese tubing bender, we used to do a lot of fuel and brake lines. It lasted over 15 years and I fixed it once. But when it broke again I replaced it with a high quality Blue Point. I've done similarly with many tools.
Don't be afraid to start with cheap tools.
I wholeheartedly agree with your advice and am gratified that someone of your stature had the backbone to state it so well. Too many people seem to fall into the trap of being "collectors" and not "users" of toolboxes and tools!
HUSKY
56 in. 23-Drawer Tool Chest and Rolling Cabinet Set, Textured Black Matte.
56 in. Width x 20 in. Depth x 64.9 in. Height
Storage cap. 37,795 cu. in. / Total loading weight cap. 2,500 lbs
Soft Close Drawers with 100 lb. Rated Ball Bearing Slides
$998.00 /each
If I was to go out tomorrow and getting a Toolbox this is the Box I would get. It's plenty Big and if not Buy 2 and you're still saving a shit load of money that you could spend on TOOLS. So, Bruce, I agree with you and the toolbox isn't what makes the money it's the tools and the man or women behind the tools that make the money. Loved This Video Keep Up The Good Work.
Big Daddypat they are on sale right now for $500. Just bought my dad this box for Christmas
If these lasted you only 5 years your still ahead of Snap On tool box pricing.
Completely agree! I see guys coming fresh out of UTI, Wyotech, ect with brand new loaded snap on boxes $30k+ in the hole and i think to myself, jesus christ what if this doesnt work out for them? Not only student loans but the snapon guy knocking on their door. Great advice taken from my FIL, Master Ford ASE tech for over 35 years, it doesnt matter the name on the tool as long as it gets it done. Hes been turning wrenches for over 40 years, and now even at the peak of his career still uses a old craftsman box and a mix of tools. He owns alot of snapon specialty tools and diag tools, but other than that its alot of older mixed brand. And you know what, it gets the job done as has been getting the job done for many many years.
EDIT: And my FIL being stringent and not spending all his money on the tool man, working and saving his whole life, is near retirement in a nice 4500sqr feet home on 5 acres. Its all about priorities.
30k for a snap on box damn… idk whose selling you these boxes but they’re ripping you off😂 specially for some one fresh out of uti most guys at my shop have the 55inch Box which is around 4K plus Interest depending on your credit… but I got to agree I rather spend the money buying the tools the box I’ll wait for later… right now I got a budget husky box from home depot it does the job.
I know a lot of young techs which are in trouble. Some make excuses that it's okay. Some are more honest and try to teach others. I've had basic tool boxes and I hope I never make that mistake to get an expensive Snap On or Matco toolbox when we need to save up for when you need the next vehicle. In the meantime, I keep buying tools I need when I can, and other guys keep making payments trying to not lose what they have. I'm really appreciative of the video tune up of living financially smart. :)
I didn't stay working as a mechanic, moved on to college and other things... but I did go through this once. I had myself a 34" Craftsman with friction slides from the 1980s. I paid a friend $400 for it because it was in good shape and more solid than the 90s and early 00s stuff being offered at the time. Ended up packing it with plenty of tools and still had some satellite boxes holding lesser junk. I moved on, but I never stopped learning or turning wrenches on my own stuff, or on the side for cash and favors, and I still have that cheap old Craftsman, now covered with stickers. (makes it that much faster) I have enough now that I've outgrown it plus an HF tool cart, and thought about going the chinese box route, but when I saw that you can get a good condition Snap-on or Matco 4S 55" for a mere $2,000 or even a little less, double 40" sets for the same money.... I'd advise anyone to save the cash and buy used American, or get a china box if your ideals allow it. (mine don't for something that expensive, personally)
I had a lot of friends over the years, many mechanics, and I've seen tons of guys who didn't stay doing the job, and had to take a huge loss when they moved on, or simply struggle to make the payments along the way. Tool trucks are the devil for a new tech. Start with something small and cheap, and make a list of what you need most. Start crossing it all out as you buy- and there's always a good balance of value and quality. Don't overlook the cheaper American brands, or carrying doubles of certain cheaper tools in case one breaks.
THEN save up some cash and get a solid USA made box for a few grand and let someone else take the hit on new prices. These things are less than 50% of new in just a few years, not at all like what the tool truck owner will tell you. Don't believe me? Look on C list or Facebook right now. Especially at Christmas time.
I started with a cheap little Craftsman top chest and made do with that until I filled it with the necessary tools that it could hold. About a year later I stepped up to a small Mac top &bottom . Today’s roll carts are bigger than my tool box was. That worked for several more years as I filled it with more necessities. After about five years I was ready to step up bigger. I stayed in that box for about 10 years. I purchased my last box in 2000. Sure, I slobber at all the newer boxes but there’s no way in hell a man my age is going in debt for a new box. I’ve learned to appreciate what I have.
You are totally right. I have been in this business for 30 years licensed.The tools dont make the mechanic. I had a beach box since 1987 kept adding on cabinets for more storage. Had to fabricate a frame for the wheels due to the old ones going through the bottom. Had this one up until 2009 then got a job with a Freightliner dealership 3 years previous. They paid me very well I mean almost 33% better than before at 44 years old I thought screw this I have put in my time I bought a Snap on tool box. Off hand don,t know what model it is just know its the one that is advertised with a dump truck sitting on 6 boxes.Electric orange was the colour I got. Was unique back then now Mac and Matco have the same uh. Today move this thing around the shop over uneven ground and with at least 1,000 pounds of tools in it I will have one wheel leave the ground. This thing is built like a tank. Back to the subject and you are right on the subject DO NOT BUY A SNAP ON BOX until you are established financially.At 52 years looking forward to retirement and having a storage unit that will outlast me.
I just bought a Snap On Classic 78 in Green with the stainless steel Snap on top for $600 used. Everything is in great shape too.
I started with a craftsman wana be tool box. Used it for 10 years sold it to my buddy he still has it. Now as small engine technician moved up to harborfreight 5 dawr mean green. Been waiting snapon for years. I think its going to happen. Good information!
I have my first 1977 Craftsman setup plus a 1990s Mac box both without roller slides. I just did a timing belt on a chrysler and it was what was inside the boxes that helped me get the work done.
Good advice.
My advice? Get the tools then buy a used snap on box, simple!
At 2:35 he began his emphasis. I like a nice box however. I aquired a 12k krl1163 box for 4k from snap on repo. Sold my 2007 matco double bay. Extreme are cool too. Craftsman industrial
You are so right - I'm been doing this for over 45 years and yes I have a big snap on equipped box with 4 side locker with overheads - over the years I trade up to get here, I see it all the time the new guys go big right off and they have NO tools and now can't make there payment. Get your tools first...
For those that don't have credit or good credit, don't forget about places that still to layaway. I did a video last week on a sweet Craftsman black Friday pre-sale event. I was able to get a pretty nice box that was normally $740 for $299 and use free cash points for $30 more off and then put it in layaway and make payments on it over time. This saved me from having to use money right now I will need for the holidays to lock in a sweet deal on a box.
I know Craftsman isn't the best, but a lot of their stuff will work for a while and you can make payments on it. And they are having a ton of sweet deals right now. Plus there are still some really nice craftsman USA made tools like the pry bars, wire strippers, turbo sockets, craftsman pro wrenches, etc.
What do you think about like a 2k used snap on box for a guy that's already got the tools?
I totally agree with you and a great video. When I started my career as a body man I had my set of tools I bought back in 1996 and it was the Nascar Craftsman tool set and one Snap-On ratchet screw driver and a set if body hammers. I worked out of a tackle box so by the time I could by a tool box I had saved up to pay for it in one payment which by then I went from a heavy equipment painter to a body shop. In 2004 I desided to put the toolbox on my credit card and my parents told me to pay off the credit card in 3 payments and at the same time build your credit. I bought the Craftsman Professional which I was very happy about. I even had money left over and spent the rest on tools. To this day when I buy tools I have the money and won't do it in payments on the tool truck. If I don't have the money for the tool I don't buy it and yes it's taking me long to build up on tools but I have no monthly payment. I know bodyman don't need tools like mechanics do. But after three years of owning my box I had to put a side box on and to this day I completely filled and need a bigger box. So to all the up and coming mechanics and bodymen. Buy tools first to build up and make money cause no matter how big how much or brand of tool box you have it will never make you money. Your brain your tools and hands make you money and your toolbox just stores or your tools. Hey Bruce Allen here's maybe for a next video about this type of subject. With I gave myself a tool allowance from every paycheck. So I did either $50 or $100 out of each paycheck and just saved tell I could buy a tool or tools
Good advice. They don't call them Rape Vans for no reason...lol
bodymanruss518 right! Plus your so excited about a new tool you don't feel the pain tell after words lol
I started with a cheap $50 stanley box . Once i started making some money and getting more tools, i bought a Milwaukee bottom box for $300. I found a overstock warehouse that bought and sold overstock and scratch and dent item from homedepot. The only problem is white overspray on the bottom edge of box, which i painted over. Looks brand new now. Locks work, came with all the mats. Love it, gonna buy the too box soon for another $200-$300. Never bought from snapon or matco etc
On the other hand when my dad retired some dude drove 2000 miles to buy my dads toolbox full of tools for 0ver 60 grand im thinkin thats a nice retirement bonus dont think an inferior collection and box would have pulled this kind of cheese investment big time
The Train when I retire my tools will retire with me
Kenneth Prince thats wat he said lol guess after 30 years a heavy equipment tech a new harley road gluide and a toy hauler sounded better that a ton of tools out back in the shop
Im a heavy equipment tech too when I guess when I'm older we will see how I feel about the tools lol 30+ years of experience he must of had a very nice collection of tools I love going threw old timers toolboxes and seeing the different styles of the older tools and all the custom tools they, ive been doing it for 10years and my collection has come very far cant wait for my kids to get older and go threw it like I do my elders tools lol
Kenneth Prince thats me too ive been a tech for bout 18 years now and i know wat your talkin bout lol i snatched my fair share before he sold them belive that . I went with lighter duty work than him just because i seen the toll he put on his body! Kinda kewl checkin others tools out on this utube lol
The Train after 10 years in falling apart lol so I know what you mean
I grew up working in my families transmission shop. The best mechanics we had could care less about the brand of box or tools. It was about getting the job done not being showy. It's a different world now, very materialistic. Good video will get a lot of views and comments
I spoke to a lady the other day who's husband recently passed. He had a custom all drawer Epiq 84 filled with Craftsman. She still has the box and can't get it to sell. Beautiful box but just to big for a home garage. I saw what they paid for it with the work station ,hutch and aide locker.. Madness...
Years ago in 1993 i bought a nice Craftsman top chest, bottom roll box, & 2 end cabinets when i worked as an aviation technician. At the time it was the biggest Craftsman box that they made. Paid a fraction of what a Snap-on box would cost. I took off the Craftsman emblems & put on Snap-on emblems. Funny thing is that most people actually thought they were Snap-on toolbox's. Now keep in mind i made damn good money & could have easily afforded a set of Snap-on boxes equivalent to the Craftsman boxes. I worked with a few mechanics that would pay ridiculous prices for a Snap-on box & even though they made good money they were so stressed with making the monthly payments, etc. that they couldn't really enjoy the boxes they had. They worked tons of overtime so they could meet the demands of what owning a Snap-on box brings. Me on the other hand paid cash for my Craftsman boxes...over & done with...& those boxes served me well for the 25+ yrs that i worked in aviation up until i retired 7 yrs. ago. Never had one issue with the Craftsman boxes except i had to replace one of the drawer slides because one of the ball bearings on the drawer i used the most just was worn out. About every 6 months i would remove each drawer & lubricate & clean the slides to keep them functioning properly. I never even had to replace the 2 top gas support strut's that held open the top box lid. Other than that i had zero issues with the boxes.
I got craftsman ,pitsburgh ,some matco,,some snap on in a husky tool box ,and still get the job done
Bought a Snap On tool chest at auction for $40. Loaded it up with my dad's Montgomery Wards hand tools and my rusty old tools.
Hey friendly neighborhood welder here.
I'm working on hydraulics and welding and looking to get a box big enough to deal with all that.
This video was a great help. I was looking at the tool trucks that come around. It's saved me some 25,000 dollars. Get your tools you need.
I was a mechanic for 15 yrs before buying a snapon box then out grew it and got a other one paid it off and got my last one and paid 18,000 for it and 6 yrs later i became disabled and now its serting in storage full of tools and the 18,000 i could have used for bills now but will never get that back for the box i have tried to sell it many times and been lowballed so many times i gave up on selling it
I'm a diesel mechanic and when I started I had a brand 42 in Stanley box and now I still do and is getting full as hell I might get a 56in us General box but I'm not sure yet get your tools first
The advice is appreciated, I agree you do not need to be an expert to make that argument... tools should be a priority over the box.
Good point,been in body shop for 35 yrs, started with a small craftsman, traded up over years to snap on ,bottom and top,with mac side cabnet, used for over 20yrs,you know the 35"wide20"deep,2015 bought a snap on Krl 1163,black,chrome trim,love it,bitch to keep clean in body shop,still paying on it,all most paid for
Can you buy a seperate cart with wheels, or you have to buy one that has wheels? I dont see how you can pick up a 200 pound toolbox onto a cart with wheels
Totally agree with you buddy I’m an Aircraft Mechanic with an old craftsman and mixed match tools snap on cornwell craftsman gear wrench etc what ever works I’ve seen new kids coming into the industry with big ass snap on or Matco box with drawers full of magazines and candy and no dam tools spend your money wisely not every thing has to be brand new go to pawn shops or flea markets get what you need to do the work and invest that cash
Best Advice Ever: "If your tool box is nicer than your car, you're F*!"
When I started my job as a heavy equipment tech, I had a Craftsman tool bag, roll of duct tape, can of wd-40, and a couple of those little Craftsman socket sets. My first check I got myself one of those US General service carts. I'm lucky enough to have a Carlyle tool rep (yes it's a thing) so that service cart filled up quick. I stepped it up just a little to a bigger General box, which filled up, so I got a Cornwell box. It was ok... but a couple weeks later my Snap-on rep had a kmp1163 at half price. So, I jumped all over it. Did I need it? No. Not really. Do I love it? Absolutely. You're giving sound advice and people should listen. I'm just fortunate enough to have my military pension and a decent pay check. I would say start small and slow, get what you need, then get what you want. If a person has to have a snappy box, then I would say get a service cart, then trade it back to your dealer for something bigger later. Set goals for yourself and work towards them. If you decide along the way that its not worth it, then you didn't really want it anyway.
Not a pro, just a DIYer. I have the US General 44" chest, but I have a question about locks. The chest is good enough for my needs, and there is no way I'd get a SnapOn box unless it was vintage and a steal.
The thing I did notice is I could defeat the lock on any Husky, Kobalt or US General took box with a cheap drill, and probably even a Ryobi drill bit. Definitely Titanium coated or cobalt. Do the Snap On locks hold up much better, or are locks just going to keep honest people honest?
I guess when even a safe can be defeated by a harbor freight angle grinder, its a moot point. I Assume if your mechanic shop is in a bad neighborhood, your only defense is to going to involve welding and some 1/2" thick bar stock.
I knew a guy that kept all his tools in an old bedroom dresser in his garage. It worked.
Smart man!
Im a 16 year old apprentice technician, at a GM dealership thats my official title, i get oil changes to jobs that could be for a light repair tech. I have a craftsman 2 drawer with a empty cabinet with an over head drawer and i put the top box in there and got a husky top box, this week i purchased a snap on 40” roll cab at my student discounted price of 1300$ and i feel like i couldnt be prouder, this box will last me a lifetime and i could trade it in, and it will be reliable, name an actual reason i shouldnt have made my purchase
I bought a small snap on and focused on tools. Sometimes you want the best. That's fine.
Where do you keep your diagnostic equipment ? I personally think they take up way to much space in my box I'm looking for a good solid locking cabinet. That's where I'm gonna keep my diagnostic equipment. Best bang for your buck.
set of shopping trolly wheels, couple of heavy duty box sextion and a few filing cabnets, make a chassis from the box section and whees, weld the cabnets to the chassis, cheapest roll cab and many options on draw layouts
You're so true I wanted a lower toolbox I went to Lowe's and found one beat the hell I paid $100 for it I'm happier than s*** I put new wheels on it already had you should talk to them about how to buy used tool boxes or slightly scratch and dent so they can save money you take care
I’m a diesel heavy equipment mechanic and I waited over ten years from being an apprentice till now to finally get a 3 bay snap on KRL box.
I bought it used and paid CASH after saving up.
I spent 4000$ vs the original cost of over $13000
I’m 32 and always had harbor freight tool boxes first box was a craftsman and for the money they were awesome and lasted even in harsh mining environments.
I’ve never had a tool bill I’ve always paid cash.
Buying tools on credit of any kind even credit cards online can cripple a person financially and I think that’s the biggest message I can relay to a young guy wanting to become a mechanic of any kind.
You don’t need name brand tools for everything especially when you’re first starting out in this business.
Avoid debt like the plague and it will allow you to focus more on becoming a better tech instead of worrying about how to pay an insane tool bill every week or month.
Even when I buy a set of snap on wrenches or sockets I’ll buy them second hand and save half or more off list price.
Between craigslist, offer up and eBay there no need to pay insane retail for tools especially a tool box!
Stay out of debt!
Good point, I'v been fixing cars for 35 years with a mixed bag of tools hand picked by me. And it has never been a problem.
Hey great post sir. I bought a Craftsman box, I love it, it does have nice features a little on the small side for a 52 inch, I'm filling it up with some good stuff that's the most important part
100% agreed! I had a kobalt box for 5 years and filled it up with matco and snap on tools then I bought a matco box 2 years ago and it’s almost paid off. Like he said when you get on them trucks you can go nuts but you have to be careful with your decisions because the tool trucks will give u whatever you want if you can pay the weekly payment.
it all goes back to the financial advice that i always give, you have to determine what is a want and what is a need. you buy only your needs. follow this and you will go far. once you have money after all your needs are meet, then you can afford your wants.
I have to agree with most of what you said. I took my time and did alot of horse trading to get my box. I started with a black husky that got destroyed by a thief. Next got a craftsman 40 inch and a harbor freight cart. Traded the cart for a matco cart. Traded the matco cart and some tools for an old snap on 78. Finally traded it on a cornwell custom that I ended up getting for 4k. Saved almost 6k on that box. Took 12 years, but got the box I wanted for alot less than most. And it's packed full of tools.
I’ve been turning wrenchs for close to 30 years I’ve owned several tool boxes! I started out with used snap on , Mac, boxes when I payed them off I moved up but most importantly I spent my $$$ on tools that I needed to do my job !! I to this day buy several brands of tools not just snap on ! There are good quality tools and boxes available!bottom line buy smart add as you go replace less quality tools with better quality as your pocketbook allows! The box doesn’t make the mechanic! Great video valid points thanks for sharing 👍
It's good to see a young man acquire wisdom early. You won't end up like me: 70-years old, still doing AC repairs on rusty Chevy's, and two really nice boxes (one each, MAC and Snappy) stuffed with tools. I'll bet I could have had some really nice fish'n trips to Alaska...
Would u recommend harbor freight 56 or snap classic 56 $3800 or $750
i got a mac box just starting out 5 moths ago been here for 11 months but i got it for 4k due to a scratch but i also have it half full with snap on tools with a brand new car with 5 miles and im stable check to check and still have money go for deals alot cheaper but i alsso had a dewalt box first got tools then the box
I think your 100% right. I look at the toolbox tours on you tube and all these people who have a snap on or Matco etc and no tools. I personally have a own 3 toolbox which I bought used one snap on I had for over 20 years
Bruce,
If a person like myself that has the financial mean with the ability to purchase a good quality tool box paying for it total cash and that it will last me for a good life time without having to upgrade, but also having the ability to add onto it which tool box brand would you highly recommend besides snap on & Mac...quality structure and strength of the tool box is very important musttttt to me...TIA
I totally agree with everything you say Bruce. When I hear "Snap On makes me money" from people, I say until you own all the tools and toolbox is paid off and you have no tool debt they ain't making you money. The person that's making the money is the tool vendor.
I started out of a Harbor Freight single drawer tool cart, moved up to a Craftsman tool box, then once I filled that up I traded it in on a used Snap On tool box, filled that Snap On box up and then moved up to bigger used Snap On tool box with one side locker and a matching tool cart. Had that box for probably about 13 years. Finally decided to step step up to a monster Matco box because like everybody else buy alot of tools. I got tired of hanging everything else off the side or taking stuff home every day. I have everything from my engine brace to under hood lights in my tool box. I got tired of coming up with missing equipment, shoot even my jack stands have a home in my tool box, scan tool, you name it. Was it pricey..... yes...... but for me.... it was worth it....... No car payment for me though, but I have decent cars....... too many cars........
Totally agree! Get the tools first and then one you’re set on tools get the nice box if you can actually afford it. I started out with craftsman, but over the years was upgrading my tools to snapon. Got my first snapon box last week. Did I need it? No, but I’m at the point we’re I can afford something nice so I splurged.
Still solid advice for the new guys coming into any type of mechanic industry.
i started with just a service cart the trade it got a snap on box . that ended up giving it back i focus in tools to the point that my dealer ship supply box was fill wanted again a good box but i wanted until i got a cornwell on special plus 500 off for a scratch in the back but i work hard as hell . currently im just few classes away from becoming master in nissan. with that i should be able to finish my tool truck payment to zero and will probably will not need anything else for few years
Got my snap on for half off and it was brand new so I had to jump on it . It is very addictive tho and you can definitely fall into a hole
I needed this video so bad. I was ready to start acting a fool Monday
I actually have one of the lower end extreme tools 72 inch box but it was only $800 I couldn't pass it up! It's been pretty nice so far I will say this, the draws open easy 3/4 the way and some times have to give it a tug to get it all the way open.
I don't mean to be rude but how do you work out of a Husky the metal is not even a millimetre thick. well maybe a millimetre if you count the powder coat. Man you need to check out a nice Snappy roll cart or something. They are 2,500.00 bux just pull the trigger already if you havn't already.
My driver almost talked me into a new box once. Then I got to thinking about all the other shit I wanted and really needed. 2 years later I've got 2 lifts new miller welder hypertherm plasma CNC table. Still under the price of a toolbox. These tools actually bring $ thru the door
I agree my mentor told me when i was starting "its not the box what's in the box" i finally bought a Snap on box though later on my career.
used craigslist box. Good deals around
Thanks for the video I’m not a licensed mechanic I just love to work on my own car I agree with what your saying when I was living at home I can remember just buying tools and for years my upstairs bedroom closet was my toolbox I probably spent $8000.00 on tools keep in mind I buy most of my tools at Canadian tire but my room was over flowing before I bought my box and I bought it on sale it’s a master craft and servers it’s purpose for now will likely get a husky in the spring seeking as I have the tools to fill both
If you have the money get whatever you want. I pushed a craftsman box all around the shop for 5yrs before I bought my first Snap-on 10-22.
I met a guy that bought a Mac Box paid $14,000 just for the Box I asked,,,,and said to him are you out of your mind he said what's going to help my credit rating
You are the man Bruce, everything you have just said I've said a hundred times, yes at this time I have a snap on box but it's one from the 1980s that I found on Facebook market place for 400 dollars, for many many yrs I used a craftsman box, I took a lot of shit off the fan boys with the big boxes, any how I spent most of my money on tools and test equipment to do my job, and guess who those fan boys were always coming to and saying hey man do you have a tool I can borrow, Bruce I tell a ton of new guys, a huge fancy tool box does not make you a good tec, kudos on your vid my friend,
Yes, you really need to be smart and patient about financing if you want to spoil yourself. Ever since my first day of being a rookie mechanic, I spent over a year buying the tools I need on the spot. All I had was a small Craftsman box on top an Apollo cart I found lying around. I left no debt with the tools I bought. Didn't matter what brand. After overloading that little red Craftsman box, that's when I knew I can afford to finance a new Cornwell tool cart and afford to pay well above the minimum payment. It's been a fantastic cart for awhile now and I plan to keep it forever. I still kept the Craftsman box.
Now that I'm approaching apprenticeship for heavyline car work, my car is a few months away from being paid off, my credit score is even better, and that I need the Craftsman box back home because of the lack of organization in the garage, I went ahead and got the Cornwell 54 inch Pro Series. Not too large, not too small, and not even close to as expensive as Snap-On and the like. The Cornwell salesman gave me a very affordable payment that I can still pay above, and will allow me to afford to pay for new tools on the spot without increasing my debt. Debt will only go away. That's how I'm maintaining flight.
Good advice. I have Harbor Freight boxes holding my Snap on tools. :)
I would have to agree with what you are saying by the most part. I bought a KRL1033 stainless top and hutch. I don't regret it. But I have about 50k in tools. I worked up to that box rather quickly. Started with a husky box, got a heritage box, moved to a classic 96 with stainless top, then to a master series. I kept running out of space. I guess it depends on what you are doing. If you are home gamer, go to lowes or sears. If you are a lubie in an auto shop, you don't need to spend a fortune for a box on wheels. I'm a diesel tech, and we work on so many different product lines that you literally need every tool imaginable. I have never paid a cent in interest. I never bought anything I couldn't pay for with cash. I like that you keep pointing out that you shouldn't put yourself in financial distress. You see it a lot with guys that are new to the trade, they get all wide eyed on the snap on truck. I bought my box because I honestly do expect it to still be rolling around the shop in 35 years.
I agree with you and a lot of people might hate it but those Harbor Freight tool boxes are actually pretty decent I had a Master Series that I sold when I went back to school and when I got out I bought a Harbor Freight 72 inch and it is pretty nice
Beach Tools all the way! I've got two vintage tall 12 drawer Beach rollers custom bolted together on 6 wheels, with a low style Beach 3 drawer roller custom converted, and widened into a 52" hutch to sit on top!
I agree with you. I started out with a Craftsman bottom box, then the top, added a used side box to get a 40" bottom. Added them as I needed. Started also with a 350 piece mechanics set from Craftsman and added needed tool's for specific tasks. I filled that box and needed more room. I had a set payment with my dealer I could afford each week that I payed each week, $30.00, just a few hrs of over time. We worked 60 to 75 hrs a week then. I got a 54" heritage top and bottom, had 3 empty drawer's when swapped out. Welding helmet, arc flash helmet and grinding face shield, Machinist tools and printing press key bars ( Snap-On used to carry them in the catalog in 1985) quickly took up the rest. So Yea you are spot on with your advice. I didn't get a epiq but got what I needed. Wife said the same thing you did, " that's a fuckin car note".
Good advice. For me. I have almost all the tools and will get semi good ones from places before tye trucks. Ill get that over time. . And my new job pre buys the tool box for each new employee to buy out slower and lower payments with no interest. So besides seeing this. I was looking for quality reasons. But good stuff because yes I was to invest in myself. But not to loose my mind over it.
That’s why I’d recommend a harbor freight box. 44” is $479 and a 72” is $1100... it’s really a no brainer when starting out. Hell I started out with a harbor freight 5 drawer roll cart for $200. Also, guys need to keep their weekly tool bill at $40 or less in order to make it and most decent tool trucks have an in-truck finance limit of $300-$500 before you have to go through snap on or Mac finance. Buy a couple things till you hit the limit and pay it off before you buy anything else. But if you gotta have it that day, go to harbor freight until you can afford good name brand tools. Jus sayin’
If you want snap on to feel special u don't need it but if you really want that for looks just go to harbor freight and buy a box pull of the stickers and buy a snap on sticker and slap it on it
I have a Husky box I spent $600 on. The only thing I dont like about it is the width. My Husky is top heavy. I will probably never buy a snap on or matco box because of the price, I have made that car analogy before too. I appreciate the advice. I just started a year ago and flagging is a whole different world, it is rough sometimes.
New to the trade, I was allotted tools but was missing some items.... I'm grateful for what I have but chose kobalt sockets over the snap on tools and the craftsman mini box over a snap on fancy box. Very well put sir the shop guys all love harbor freight and no names where I'm at and I'm right with thwm
I bought a "cheap" Heritage series Snapon box almost 20 years ago. Top, bottom, side cab and intermediate for $4600. Just traded it in for a Masters series and got $3000 trade in. The box is just as much an investment as the tools in it.
Yeah great advice. Buying as you can afford makes sense, approaching it with a business mindset, put some money to the side and wait for the deal to come your way. If youre buying snap on etc ebay is your friend, getting into the tool for the same price or less than what you can sell if for. Let someone else take the hit of new.
I agree I was in the business 10 years before I finally decided to buy my snap on box this year and I bought a master series used that will be payed off in a year
I am wondering about upgrading my box cause I have a small roll cart but I need more space for my ever expanding tools. I am a 2nd year apprentice so ive had a box and tools for a couple of years. But snap on is alot for a box. I've been looking at a box in eBay and Costco Kirkland and I could get that box and buy lots of tools with $10,000.
I agree with you, actually I'm in school learning to be an auto & collision tech now... Like your honesty bro, thank you...
I was 49 when I purchased my 8 year old Macsimizer used.. Paid cash. Moved out of two Craftsman and an old MAC
Something better than nice looking snap on tools or box is not being in debt. Who is Bill?
same bro pay everything in cash i got a lot of snap matco and gearwrench
absolutely correct. start with a smaller box and build from there. I now own an Epic 84 with a hutch and it took me 20 years to get there. It is nice but by the tools and pack them in the smaller box
My recommendation for anyone starting out is to get a nice cart. Chances are you won’t be working in the same bay all day & I’ve seen a bunch of guys that walk across the shop multiple times to do an oil change because they don’t have a cart. If you’re getting paid by the job you’re losing money. If you’re hourly then you aren’t losing money but you also aren’t impressing the people that give you more money.
I had a buddy who wanted a snap on box.. has no clue about cost went on website priced it and tried convincing me to believe him for that price the box came filled with tools 😂
I had a old craftsmen box I got because it had little damage. I then got a Mac 1500.00 it was again damaged.
When I got my own little shop I got a Mac toolbox brand-new would have been over 10000.00 . I got that for under 3000.00 only because it was a trade in and I had to many lost to many tools with the smaller box plus the snap on guy let me keep my old box too. That I sold for 1000.00.
GET the tools first before you get the tool box. You are so right.
Agreed. They are fkin expensive, but hey! They do look pretty cool...