I have a strong respect for this man but i still am disappointed of how apologetic he is of the government he was part of. Reminder: Jet fuel does not melt steel
Rayanouu Jet fuel does not melt steel, but large temperature changes do make it significantly weaker in addition to introducing stresses that are not present at normal temperature ranges.
Mark Case And yet, the fires that were burning were miniscule to other tower fires, such as the Windsor hotel fire in Madrid Spain, which was built on lesser engineering standards with steel reinforced concrete than that of steel frame that the WTC towers were made out of, burned for over 20 hours, engulfing most of the building...and yet it remained standing, even with partial collapses at the top, with an exposed core in tact. And then there was the Mandarin Oriental hotel in Beijing that had a hollow atrium, which was also entirely engulfed in an inferno but never suffered a significant collapse. Let us not forget that the jet fuel was not in a contained environment nor continuously fed, it was burned up rather quickly after the impacts and translated to a standard office building fire, which was on it's way out right before the collapses. Despite all that, the WTC steel was still melted in large quantities, and the building didn't gradually collapse in peices, it suddenly globally collapsed, as though it had no core of 47 box columns of increasingly thicker steel downards from the top, exploded in all directions sending completely pulverized material over a thousand feet, and chunks large enough to gut wtc7 which was 2 football fields away...and NIST even admits the collapses were essentially at free fall speed. Something that is essentially impossible without large amounts of energy sources beyond the building's gravitational potential energy to produce such an effect, especially as the piledriver was entirely destroyed not even halfway through the collapse, it just continued to explode at the same rate to the ground when there was no remaining significant weight left above it to do so. Newton's 3rd law of motion, every action has an equal an opposite reaction, making the destruction to the lower majority of the building have the same rate of destruction going back through the top minority section, easily disproves such a concept that the collapses were natural, even if the building was made out of wood, or if the top sections above the impact points were severed completely and dropped from a crane. The collapse would have quickly halted and otherwise the top sections slide to one side or another because of path of least resistance.
Thrashaero Jet fuel burns hotter than normal. Not the same as any other fire. Neither of your examples are relevant. The Windsor hotel was tiny in comparison. Neither sustained extensive impact damage in addition to fire damage. The only thing that's relevant is that the fire was hot enough to cause the steel to lose strength. The plane destroyed the parts of the tower it hit, causing surviving supports to support more of the dead load of the portion of the building above it. Weaker steel due to abnormally hot fire cannot support the same amount of weight as it would normally. So these supports that are already taking more load than they were designed to because of the destruction the plane caused would become weaker because of the fire. Those members would deform through the plastic region of steel's stress/strain graph and then fail under the same load that it would be able to withstand indefinitely with no fire. While the failure wouldn't be brittle, it would still result in the top part of the towers essentially falling through the damaged part of the building and hitting the undamaged part(albeit with slightly less energy because the failure wouldn't be brittle). The energy of a large part of a building falling, lets say, two stories, is huge: mgh = mass*gravity*height. That energy would be spread across the area of impact, but buildings are simply not designed to take an impact load from the top like that. Without numbers from the actual buildings I can't do the math for you, but the impact would probably immediately fail all of the supports for at least a few stories. If they have no carrying capacity(if they're failed, they wouldn't), they would offer very little resistance to the building falling down. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with that last paragraph and your attempt at explaining physics. Try again if you want, but what you said there makes no sense. I am not uneducated when it comes to physics or how buildings are built.
Thrashaero Hey, you have inspired me to read some on the topic and lo and behond: www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/ I'm happy to say I actually was correct about the engineering aspect of it failing :) and look! one of the engineers that went over it was from UCSD. That's where I go! How exciting!
Mark Case Steel losing strength = / = total global collapse at free fall. Jet fuel in the fires is negligible if it's not going to be burning for more than a few minutes at most and most of the fire duration, less than a couple of hours, was office furnishings. The windsor hotel may have been much smaller than the towers, but the fires and damage ratio received was far above the twin towers. It had partial collapses of it's own that were far more of a percentage of support than the plane impacts did to the towers. Not to mention the fact, as steel frame, instead of steel reinforced concrete, they were giant heatsinks. So the fires would have to have been burning for far longer to even come close to a sudden failure, let alone a symmetric telescoping failure as seen in the north tower. As far as the plane damage, The buildings were already designed to withstand 707's, roughly the same size and mass as 767's. You think they didn't account for jet fuel? lol. Before you mention speed, they were not travelling at 425-510 kts, which is about 46 to 150 over vmo, max operating velocity, for north and south towers respectively. They would have suffered severe flutter where control surfaces have no effect and fell apart long before even reaching Manhattan island. As I said before, even if initiation of collapse is granted, even to the point the entire tops were completely severed and dropped, there is no way they could have completely obliterated the remaining structures beneath, without continuous *added* energy for severing of support all the way down. Of course it would crush a few stories, maybe even a couple dozen, but you're forgetting the return destruction towards the top section. Which would either almost completely dismantle the tops through a natural collapse long before the rest of the building could be destroyed, that is if and only if the tops were to stay centered above the building's perimeters, a balancing act that is extremely unlikely, especially given the asymmetric damage received It is not going to stay in tact, as is already apparent in the videos, they had been already obliterated. Add on top, the fact that the tops of the buildings were lighter/ more fragile per floor than any of the bottom floors below it thanks to beams that were thicker at the bottom than they were at the top. The south tower's tilt ceased after a number of degrees from vertical, because the fulcrum beneath was being destroyed faster than it could fall, as well as the top block being destroyed before it could fall any further anyway. Completely negating conservation of angular momentum, if the building wasn't being pre-destroyed before the top block could do so. If you think I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to physics, then show me some physics that disproves the basic law of motion that supports a crush-up/crush-down simultaneous action. As I said before, the top mass did not remain in tact to contain the same mass as it was coming down, progressively making it less and less likely for the rest of the building to blow apart as fast as it did. Again, you say I don't know physics, while you are the one supporting an argument that supports a collapse within a few percent of free fall, (and Shyam Sunder of NIST has even admitted they fell 'essentially at free fall', where rest of the percent is completely missing in terms of resistance. First semester physics, I'm afraid. One does not need to be an expert in physics to figure it out. Simply pointing out some failing beams from heat is not going to explain the entire collapse. That is a slippery slope argument that NIST has relied upon, given they do not even bother to go beyond an initiation explanation and assume the rest of collapse is inevitable. Not only that, but they refuse to release their input data for their collapse models, which is against the basic scientific process, denying peer review.
Discovered him a few days ago!!! The end of the video was just one fact after the other. People change, systems change but incompetence, irresponnsibility, arrogance... no matter the system are a desease for which an antidote still isn't found!!! Saying things as they are, plain and brutal is a good start! Thank you sir!
Had to stop at 29:46. This guy hasn't got a clue. Not one word so far regarding Building 7, and a strong scent of actual credibility that a guy in a cave in a mountain, who himself denied any involvement, could orchestrate the only failure of steel frame structures in architectural history and, not just one, not just two, but three steel frame structures one of which was untouched by missile or debris. This guy cannot get his head around how psychopathic these people really are. That was Powell's naivete also. They destroyed him in front of the world shilling a lie. Maybe this guy will say more about the circumstances than his belief in the 'simple failure' of people of otherwise good intent but I don't think he will. The more details of 9/11 that one learns, the closer one comes to having to make a decision if stepping over the political line into active doubt is wise or should one stop before they can no longer believe any official account of the fall and, then what? A truther? And the details which contradict the official story seem almost endless, particularly if there is some serious physics education in one's past. But Building 7 is a good place to start. Nanothermite may also be a place to start. The melting point of steel (~1500°C (~2700°F) versus the temperature of burning jet fuel in a low Oxygen (black smoke) environment (~420°-650°C (~800°-1200°F)) suggests a discrepancy when the rivers of molten metal beneath each of the destroyed buildings is considered along with the total heat contained in a full tank of jet fuel versus the heat necessary to produce the sea of iron lava the workers reported which were hot for months afterward. Also, a steel frame building cannot 'pancake' without extreme help nor do so at free fall speed which all three buildings achieved. In fact, the only way to demolish a steel frame building as we saw them being demolished is to cut every support simultaneously. Learn about the 'electrical upgrade' performed on weekends and at night in the core without security or cameras just prior to the demolishment. This guy cannot believe that people he knows could be so malevolent. This is why he is still only a Colonel. He's a believer.
I knew that day it happened that is was done by a small group of people in our government, it was building 7, and the paper passports some how survived the fireball & falls to the streets below. And not many people talk about the statements made on September 10, 2001 about how the Pentagon was missing 23trillion$. And the missile that hit the Pentagon was in the exact location where the records were kept.,. Here it is now 2019 and too many people still believe the official story witch is complete bullshit. Plus all of the evidence of for proof positive that it was controlled demolition that brought the 3 buildings to the ground, not to mention the FBI headquarters also burned to the ground, so 4 buildings in NYC destroyed by supposedly 2 jet planes (bullshit) I am past ready for the people to rise up and take our country back from these tyrants we live on a tax farm owned by England.,. We no longer have any freedoms except for the freedom of thought.,.
Also I am certain that it was a massive cover up for their crimes against humanity for the last century and the excuse for more war in the Middle East.,.
@@rougharoundtheedges5186 Don't forget the 2 passports that they found at Shanksville (United93)... The entire aircraft disappeared into the ground but oh look... look what we found... 2 passports and a red bandana... these must belong to terrorists.... I mean who else's would they be ?.... Case closed !
As a seventy-five-year-old, my recollection of 9/11 and the endless attention I paid to its understanding, thereafter, I simply do not believe that anyone can deny the falsity of the official history nor can they deny the obvious complicity of those who danced to the sight of it. I would vote for Donald Trump (and, no, you cannot possibly have a lower opinion of him than do I), if he promised to have published the security camera footage of whatever it was which struck the Pentagon on 9/11. Such a showing would change the world. Those behind the events of that day remain in charge of things.
I agree with you about your synapsis, but this information will never see the light of day. Trump can make his elusions and claims to releasing more documents, for this event and JFK, but this is a form of Orwellian double-speak. He is basically admitting he knows there is more to it then meets the eye, while at the same time projecting an illusion that he is on 'your side' for the 'truth'. Meanwhile, nothing of consequence gets released and nothing likely will. It's quite obvious what happened and the reasons behind if you spend any length of time investigating. The powers that be are so entrenched and controlled they will never allow the official narrative to unravel. It's part of their ongoing plan to this day with the new events happening in the middle east. It's all connected for the benefit of one group in particular and their aims and objectives.
Holy shit. This is one of the most important interviews so far. Thank you TRNN for this interview. Americans nead to drag the Bush admin to prison. This guy regrets what he have done, but should be punished as well. But this after Cheney and Bush!
Wilkerson is brilliant, and a brave man to speak out so boldly and truthfully about the inequities spawned by government. I bet he doesn't view Ed Snowden as a traitor either.
shirley-i think his bravery is only luke warm.. it seems he believes[or claims to] that 911 was only an intelligence failure.. He has not researched the physics of the events,which prove that the official government account is nonsense.
This fuckin' guy Wilkerson should be arrested and thrown in prison until he writes a book with detailed info on every person he knows that committed crimes against innocent civilians and then tried for treason he then testifies against for 100% conviction rate of every fuckin' criminal in the us gov't that he was involved with during anything that was unconstitutional, immoral, against human dignity, natural human rights then arrest every u s employee that gets a taxpayer paid salary and prosecute them under the RICO act for being part of an ongoing criminal enterprise and treason. That should include the last 20 president that should be posthumously charged and convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity. EVERYONE of them were fuckin' murdering, thieving' war mongers that are now rich standing and laughin' on the graves of young and old dead innocent citizens of their country.
Wish you'd have asked Wilkerson some tougher questions about 9/11--ie, 12x normal put options on United and American Airlines, 2 fighters tasked to NY redirected over ocean by Navy, war game exercises, molten steel, flight 93's cockpit voice recordings not released, why did UBL deny involvement, not enough evidence for FBI to prosecute UBL, commission not even mentioning WTC 7, cell phone calls not possible in 2001, no testing for explosives at WTC, removal of evidence, FAA tapes destroyed, ability of amateur pilots to control huge airliners with such accuracy while pushing the planes beyond design limits, far exceeding VMOs, planes penetrating steel buildings without losing any wing or tail sections, paper passports somehow getting out of the pockets of hijackers, out of plane, out of the building, and surviving the explosions not just once but twice, at WTC and in PA along with a red bandana, asymmetrical damage leading to symmetrical collapses thru the path of greatest resistance at or near free fall speed, numerous testimony from firefighters about bombs in the WTC buildings, etc..
Thanks for your apt comment and summary of the 2001 absurdities.. and how our 'brave' Col. Wilkinson hasn't spoken out about those. Now in 2024 I had some hope in Wilkinson's views on Russia, but seeing in this interview how he was a believer of an insider, not many chances we can trust his view on that either..
@@tjoeptjoeptjoep His recent interview on Ralph Nader's podcast started with some very interesting comments if you read between the lines. I think it's obvious he knows.
I was beginning to like this guy, Wilkerson until I viewed this video. He is government propagandist to the core. He seems to have a personal beef with Cheney. Not that Cheney isn't darth vader and all....
This iconic photo of The Towers remnants provides clues for the rapid demolition and removal of the remnants. The fire that suppossebly melted the steel causing their demise, was over 80 floors up above the ground, and the weight should have bent the steel beams at ground level, yet they are all pretty much straight and they all seem to have yielded at roughly the same height...
Wilkerson makes reference to Pearl Harbor; and then says that FDR acted, as opposed to W, which did not [in terms of firing/grilling people who SHOULD'VE known, and responded BEFOREHAND, and didn't]. So...let's REALLY look at Pearl Harbor; because PAST behavior is the BEST predictor of FUTURE behavior.... I offer the following examples as evidence of what WAS known prior to Pearl Harbor. The FIRST use of aircraft in a naval battle was in 1916, at the sea-battle of Jutland; it wasn't the DECISIVE factor, but it showed airplanes COULD be used, to great effect. It was Col. Billy Mitchell, who, in 1926, PROVED airplanes could be used to sink ships, having used WWI German warships as bombing targets. It was Adm Harry E. Yarnell, who, on 07 Feb 1932, conducted a "mock attack" on the Naval facility AT PEARL HARBOR, in a Naval Training Exercise; it was COVERED in the local newspapers, as it was a RESOUNDING successful victory, which was OVERRULED by the "Naval Brass", citing it as being "unforseen and unsportsmanlike" [apparently, the Japanese didn't "get the memo"; I WONDER what plan the IJN USED as a basic blueprint, for the REAL attack, which was 2 months short of being 10 years later, TO THE DAY; think of 07Feb1942]. Then there was the attack, by British Swordfish biplanes, on 13-14Nov1940, against the Italian fleet AT ANCHOR, at the port of Taranto Italy; it was the BRITS who were the first ones to use wooden-fins on aerial-dropped torpedoes, so they wouldn't sink in shallow water; I guess the IJN were paying better attention than the US Navy, eh? How about the "Flying Tigers", 90% of whom were "separated" US military pilots, who were being paid a $500 BOUNTY for every Japanese plane they shot down over China, since 1938 [following Japan's invasion of Manchuria in 1937]. Now COMBINE all of that, and ADD to it, the fact that pertinent intelligence was INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD from the Commanders at Pearl Harbor [Gen Short, and Adm Kimmel], as DOCUMENTED by Robert Stinett's book, "Day of Deceit", as well as an 8-point plan, drafted by the ONI [OfcNavIntel], which was DESIGNED to maneuver the Japanese into "firing the first shot", to quote SecWar Stimson, at the time. WHY would Pearl Harbor be ALLOWED to happen? To FORCE Germany into Declaring War on the US, due to its treaty OBLIGATION to Japan [following OUR Declaration against Japan following the PH attack], as part of the Axis; this would allow FDR to go to war against Germany WITHOUT being "the aggressor", and come to Britain's rescue DIRECTLY, without INITIATING "direct hostilities", when FDR campaigned in 1940, saying, "I will NOT send America's sons, to fight in Europe's wars." His defense for DOING so was essentially, "I didn't WANT to, but THEY started it!"; even when the US was sending convoys across the Atlantic to supply Britain's war against Hitler, from the very beginning! Kinda sounds VERY SIMILAR to what's going on in Ukraine/Taiwan now, don't it? OF COURSE, the PH attack was known beforehand; FDR did EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to MAKE it happen! THAT'S why the aircraft carriers WEREN'T there when the attack happened! JE Hoover, and certainly FDR, KNEW there was a Japanese spy watching Pearl Harbor, and gathering intel. So, since it takes TIME to prep ships to "get underway", and the carriers had to leave AFTER the IJN task force departed [so, due to 'radio-silence', it could NOT be "updated" that the carriers had DEPARTED], it means that the day that the orders were ISSUED, indicates HOW EARLY FDR knew of the impending attack; all they had to do, was...nothing; and LET it happen. And 9/11 was no different; it WASN'T "incompetence" or "bureaucracy"; it was ALLOWED to happen! THAT'S why NOBODY who was SUPPOSED to be "paying attention" was relieved, criminally charged, fired, or even reprimanded; EXCEPT for those who TRIED to "sound the alarm". There IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION. Nobody could BE that incompetent, and STILL "keep their job"; not after almost 3K people DIED [2,977] that day! NOT unless it was "sanctioned"...! So, do you STILL think it was just "19 high-jackers"; because the REST of the details about 9/11, absolutely REEK of MUCH bigger issues, once one starts asking REAL questions, as opposed to just accepting the BS the media tells us. Kinda like the Media repeated the same gov't BS about the findings of the Warren Commission; they've DONE IT BEFORE! HELLOHHH!!
FDR fired two ADM Kimmell and GEN Short who no doubt were guilty of monumental stupidity at Pearl Harbor. However, MacArthur's pitiful handling of what went on in the Philippines despite telling FDR that their "tailfeathers were up" and then allowed the Japanese to destroy every combat aircraft within minutes, leave all the supplies in the middle of Luzon, when everyone knew that the smart thing to do was get the supplies to the fortress a Corregidor and wait for help.
AWESOME INTERVIEW! - thank you for the excellent work. Very revealing to see the thought processes of Mr Wilkerson. Interesting that he basically threw the system under the bus when he said at the end that he thought another investigation in 911 would be ineffectual due to the way its all rigged - AND...yet at the same time underlined that that was why he taught kids now. Somethings got to give somewhere if the authority we expect to get from the state no longer holds. Keep it up...
But then, as one who is not ameriKKKan and is thus subject to a different set of propaganda lies, I can't understand that, though many agree with me that as one of myriad examples, Vietnam ah, there are so many, make it two examples, Vietnam and Iraq. More profoundly, once you get around to processing the justifications, Gulf of Tonkin and 911, it becomes more fiendish. You remember Colin Powell... Okay, I'm sure we've bucked a few off saddle, but for those few hardy souls remaining... Correct me if I'm wrong. The whole shebang is voluntary. Nobody is forced, unlike running buddy i$rae£. So. The gig is frequently/usually/always gangster-crime-evil. Yet, more than a pass, a pat on the back and gratitude that your boys are out there taming the world and protecting you. Surely you are worldly enough to know that with all the mythology scraped, steel-wooled, and rasped off, you 'want' them to be your handsome young saviours. Knights in shining Armour U$ style. But if you ever give it critical, adult, honest, oversight and peruse Smedley D Butler you'll realize that when the most decorated marine opines that WAR IS A RACKET he is by extension opening that handsome young Billy Jimmy Olaf and Jamal... and Joanne... are by extension racketeers. Football fields of Bonnie's and Clyde's
well, I can understand that given Col Wilkerson spent his career in the government, he's unnable to look at what happened on Sept 11, 2001. He says it himself, when he states that if he thought the government had pre-knowledge of the 'terrorist attack,' he'd leave the country.
Larry needs to review "Behind the Smoke Curtain" by Barbara Honegger , who , by the way , Was the official Pentagon reporter . Additionally , btw , her book "October Surprise" is well worth reading . Larry is well read , I would be surprised if he missed Barbara's reporting .. Ehud Barak ? gtfooh .
hello FBI somebody taking flights lesson without landing.FBI-whats his name sir? Lee Harvey Oswald FBI-OK NO PROBLEM,WE KNOW THIS.hello FBI the towers are burning,airplanes had hit the buldings.FBI-it was OSAMA HARVEY OSWALD?SON OF A BITCH HE DID IT.LETS INVADE IRAK NOW
A few months ago Wilkerson did a four or five part interview here. If you haven't watched it, I strongly suggest you do. The Real News an Democracy Now! FTW!
"the political power that looms over such commissions prohibits their getting to the complete truth". Interesting statement. Only holds true if that political power wants to prohibit getting to the truth. Why would that be the case? That's as much of an admission as we'll probably ever get from Wilkerson.
@ScottishAtheist focusing on thermite is critical. Denial of thermite is a critical denial of reality. Using the evidence of thermite shows the level of INTENT, not accident, the level of COVER-UP, not ignorance. To act as if this is not important is the most stupid thing any human being could EVER do. It's like being surrounded by 1000 gangsters and pretending they aren't gangsters with machine guns. + a sign glued to you saying FUCK THE MOB. What do YOU think makes sense?
I'm surprised that Wilkerson argues that 'they' couldn't have known precisely what form the attack would take. I would argue that 'they' _had_ to know, in order to prevent our air defenses from doing their job, and, in fact, that no truly independent terrorist group would assume that they could succeed in flying planes into buildings, absent some _assurance_ that air defenses would be ineffective on that day.
I think Wilkerson is vary open minded and self critical... but still in denial, mainly because these where his peers, or he doesn't want to end up dead/make too many enemies without hard hard evidence.. looks fishy Lawrence... molten steel, claimed thermite(no explosives tested for by officials)...explosions, building 7.. come the fuck on dude! this guys great but he's missing something or just hasn't looked hard enough... there is no way building 7 comes down with some fires, no way, not in a million years.. and there are many many many things that smell fishy surrounding 9/11...sometimes your just too close to see the forest for the trees, its very normal human condition.
+Missouriflies This guy is a total waste of time. I am not learning anything listening to him. He knows who is truly behind 9/11 but he is not telling us. He does not even want an investigation in the matter All he is saying is that big corporations are running america. No shit sherlock !!! Did he have to go to school a long time to figure that out?
I know you left this comment a year ago, but whenever I see a rational and well thought out comment on TH-cam, I have to thank that person. So thanks for not spewing complete gibberish and helping me restore my faith in humanity. :)
@usagoodbyeisayhello : It is damage control. The guilt is so obvious so the game becomes to make it look like an honest mistake rather than criminal activity. They want to avoid any possibility of criminal charges and trials. SO they use the old "mistakes were made defense".
Haven't watched TRNN in years. I was brought here after watching Larry Wilkerson's 2019 apology for his involvement in the Iraq War. I wonder if he and Paul Jay are still pushing this 9/11 narrative today?
1. What caused building 7 to fall? 2. Where did the nano thermite come from? 3. Who were the people arrested on the George Washington Bridge & what did they have in their van?
And yeah w a HUGE bureaucracy it wouldn't surprise me if crucial info got lost in the muddle. But there should be further investigation of this event. Our independence and freedom has always been what was important to us. Humanitarian aid sure but not solving problems w bloodshed and freedom-stealing legislation like the Patriot Act.
Wilkerson's last statements about the U.S. being a corporatocracy were probably more important than the rest of the interview. TheRealNews should do an entire interview with him on this subject alone.
Holy fast response Batman! I shall look this up toot-sweet. Thanks, I'm always interested in new pieces of this twisted puzzle. I've sort of been compartmentalizing my 9/11 truth research to the actual physical evidence a la Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth videos because it's less controversial (in my opinion anyway, you can't argue with physics...though it hasn't stopped many from trying.) However, I'm also interested in the bigger picture, so thanks for the link/reference.
American Intelligence knew full well Pearl Harbor was being studied by the Japanese assets ON the Islands and signalling to offshore "fishing vessels". They had also broken JN25 and told FDR hours before the attack that it was already launched.. FDR set up the Navy for the attack to get into the war.
stay alive? seriously - if someone of his stature went full truther, it's hard to imagine it could be anything but a death sentence - but until that can happen, this country is a charade and a joke.
11:11 ... in the interest of the tribe, in the national interest of Israel, in the interest of privately-held central banks, in the interest of the military-industrial complex, in the interest of the Petrodollar.
@DonVoghano neither governments nor corporations are "inherently bad" but the theft of wages, the ruination of crops and shorelines and food-sources, the destruction of living-space and farm-land space for corporations/etc is inherently bad. People need to keep their eyes open and be ready to stomp down any nasty behaviour instead of condoning it.
...and I totally agree with Wilkerson on his last point: there will never be representation on behalf of the American people until us voters give a THUMBS DOWN to both Democrats and Republicans and start voting in candidates from other alternative parties; Libertarians, Green, Independant, etc. Rights now, Democrats and Republicans know and serve their true masters - Big Money!
Not only was Richard Clarke dismissed by Bush, but his position, National Security Coordinator, was left unfilled. I used to think that our leaders cared about the American people and the future of our county. I no longer believe that. We live in a class dominated society. The people who rule us are member of a class that supplies executives to major corporations, presidents to major universities, and politicians to Washington. The latter group are probably the least talented, but they learn to serve their brothers in the corporate world steadfastly and loyally. If that means betrayal of their country, they do it. I used to know an attorney who told me: we commit felonies all the time. The difference is we know how to do it. Our leaders commit treason. The difference is they know how to do it.
Wilkerson owns up to a few "mistakes", but insists we needn't look any farther. Why "waste energy, treasure and time" on a new investigation? Because the people want the TRUTH!
Thank you Real News. I'm curious how Lawrence Wilkerson would have responded to a question with regards to the Modus Operandi of ambitions laid bare by "Operation Northwoods", as those ambitions and M.O. pertain to the ambitions of the PNAC.
Great stuff!! Helping to put texture on the circumstances surrounding 9/11. I've said this all along, THIS is where Truthers should be focused. Not stupid bombs or thermiite, fake planes, or any of that bullshit. It's just human beings, operating with finite knowledge in a chaotic world full of uncertainties. The government IS a mess of bureaucracy Paul Jay was trying a few times to bring up some Trutheresque arguments, but this guy, knowing the mundane realities, was having none of it.
He's wrong when he says they didn't know the "where" of the 911 strike....they knew what was going to be hit, no doubt in mind with all that has come out since. They knew the when and the where, the "why" they were all in on.
@magichandpuppet you gotta read between the lines on this one. Wilkerson is accurate in portraying the bureaucracy, as it is for all large organizations of all purposes, forms, sources, corporation or ministry, department or church, etc. And reading between the lines none of that negates any actual lying and he CLEARLY lets you know he crafted lies & omissions for Condi Rice to ensure non-contradiction of assertions with Colin Powell. He spells it out for you right there.
Since Wilkerson has a dog in this fight, he was hedging his comments on whether our government could be that incompetent, or whether they were culpable. What he said about our "Intelligence Agencies" is downright scary. It makes one think that they may be a defacto branch of our government. I like what he says about facts and events in which he is peripherally or uninvolved. Is he, like Noam Chomsky, acting as a gatekeeper on 9-11?
Pretty sure Project For a New American Century was the name of the group, the document itself was called "Rebuilding Americas Defenses"... Great info still
@ytgv3fc7 Actually, remains nearly every passenger was accounted for(apart from one baby), the black box was found, there are a large number of pictures of aircraft debris, and 95% of the plane was recovered.
Lawrence Wilkerson is an invaluable source and educator now for America, which is testimony to our system.
yes
WILKERSON IS A VERY INTELLIGENT MAN;UNFORTUNATELY HE CANNOT GO BEYOND
HIS BOUNDARIES .
I BELIEVE WE SHOULD TRUST HIM.
Great interview! I have a lot of respect for Wilkerson he talks a lot of sense.
9/11 = 21st Century Israeli National Security Project. Phase One!
"We were set up to fail." Both chairman of the 9/11 commission.
By who? Sad Mo?
Here we are in 2024 and Col Larrys truth is still true ✌️😐🇺🇸
Wilkerson knows, my respect to this gentlemen......he has said all that he can say and still keep breathing.
Very compelling and excellent interview.
Thanks for just telling it like it is and not insulting our intelligence.
The Gulf of Tonkin "incident" did NOT happen, and McNamara very belatedly admitted this in the Fog of War documentary.
Hmmmmm. Interesting
I have a strong respect for this man but i still am disappointed of how apologetic he is of the government he was part of.
Reminder: Jet fuel does not melt steel
Rayanouu Jet fuel does not melt steel, but large temperature changes do make it significantly weaker in addition to introducing stresses that are not present at normal temperature ranges.
Mark Case And yet, the fires that were burning were miniscule to other tower fires, such as the Windsor hotel fire in Madrid Spain, which was built on lesser engineering standards with steel reinforced concrete than that of steel frame that the WTC towers were made out of, burned for over 20 hours, engulfing most of the building...and yet it remained standing, even with partial collapses at the top, with an exposed core in tact. And then there was the Mandarin Oriental hotel in Beijing that had a hollow atrium, which was also entirely engulfed in an inferno but never suffered a significant collapse. Let us not forget that the jet fuel was not in a contained environment nor continuously fed, it was burned up rather quickly after the impacts and translated to a standard office building fire, which was on it's way out right before the collapses.
Despite all that, the WTC steel was still melted in large quantities, and the building didn't gradually collapse in peices, it suddenly globally collapsed, as though it had no core of 47 box columns of increasingly thicker steel downards from the top, exploded in all directions sending completely pulverized material over a thousand feet, and chunks large enough to gut wtc7 which was 2 football fields away...and NIST even admits the collapses were essentially at free fall speed.
Something that is essentially impossible without large amounts of energy sources beyond the building's gravitational potential energy to produce such an effect, especially as the piledriver was entirely destroyed not even halfway through the collapse, it just continued to explode at the same rate to the ground when there was no remaining significant weight left above it to do so.
Newton's 3rd law of motion, every action has an equal an opposite reaction, making the destruction to the lower majority of the building have the same rate of destruction going back through the top minority section, easily disproves such a concept that the collapses were natural, even if the building was made out of wood, or if the top sections above the impact points were severed completely and dropped from a crane. The collapse would have quickly halted and otherwise the top sections slide to one side or another because of path of least resistance.
Thrashaero
Jet fuel burns hotter than normal. Not the same as any other fire. Neither of your examples are relevant. The Windsor hotel was tiny in comparison. Neither sustained extensive impact damage in addition to fire damage. The only thing that's relevant is that the fire was hot enough to cause the steel to lose strength.
The plane destroyed the parts of the tower it hit, causing surviving supports to support more of the dead load of the portion of the building above it. Weaker steel due to abnormally hot fire cannot support the same amount of weight as it would normally. So these supports that are already taking more load than they were designed to because of the destruction the plane caused would become weaker because of the fire. Those members would deform through the plastic region of steel's stress/strain graph and then fail under the same load that it would be able to withstand indefinitely with no fire. While the failure wouldn't be brittle, it would still result in the top part of the towers essentially falling through the damaged part of the building and hitting the undamaged part(albeit with slightly less energy because the failure wouldn't be brittle). The energy of a large part of a building falling, lets say, two stories, is huge: mgh = mass*gravity*height. That energy would be spread across the area of impact, but buildings are simply not designed to take an impact load from the top like that. Without numbers from the actual buildings I can't do the math for you, but the impact would probably immediately fail all of the supports for at least a few stories. If they have no carrying capacity(if they're failed, they wouldn't), they would offer very little resistance to the building falling down.
I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with that last paragraph and your attempt at explaining physics. Try again if you want, but what you said there makes no sense. I am not uneducated when it comes to physics or how buildings are built.
Thrashaero
Hey, you have inspired me to read some on the topic and lo and behond: www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
I'm happy to say I actually was correct about the engineering aspect of it failing :) and look! one of the engineers that went over it was from UCSD. That's where I go! How exciting!
Mark Case Steel losing strength = / = total global collapse at free fall. Jet fuel in the fires is negligible if it's not going to be burning for more than a few minutes at most and most of the fire duration, less than a couple of hours, was office furnishings. The windsor hotel may have been much smaller than the towers, but the fires and damage ratio received was far above the twin towers. It had partial collapses of it's own that were far more of a percentage of support than the plane impacts did to the towers. Not to mention the fact, as steel frame, instead of steel reinforced concrete, they were giant heatsinks. So the fires would have to have been burning for far longer to even come close to a sudden failure, let alone a symmetric telescoping failure as seen in the north tower. As far as the plane damage, The buildings were already designed to withstand 707's, roughly the same size and mass as 767's. You think they didn't account for jet fuel? lol. Before you mention speed, they were not travelling at 425-510 kts, which is about 46 to 150 over vmo, max operating velocity, for north and south towers respectively. They would have suffered severe flutter where control surfaces have no effect and fell apart long before even reaching Manhattan island.
As I said before, even if initiation of collapse is granted, even to the point the entire tops were completely severed and dropped, there is no way they could have completely obliterated the remaining structures beneath, without continuous *added* energy for severing of support all the way down. Of course it would crush a few stories, maybe even a couple dozen, but you're forgetting the return destruction towards the top section. Which would either almost completely dismantle the tops through a natural collapse long before the rest of the building could be destroyed, that is if and only if the tops were to stay centered above the building's perimeters, a balancing act that is extremely unlikely, especially given the asymmetric damage received
It is not going to stay in tact, as is already apparent in the videos, they had been already obliterated. Add on top, the fact that the tops of the buildings were lighter/ more fragile per floor than any of the bottom floors below it thanks to beams that were thicker at the bottom than they were at the top. The south tower's tilt ceased after a number of degrees from vertical, because the fulcrum beneath was being destroyed faster than it could fall, as well as the top block being destroyed before it could fall any further anyway. Completely negating conservation of angular momentum, if the building wasn't being pre-destroyed before the top block could do so.
If you think I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to physics, then show me some physics that disproves the basic law of motion that supports a crush-up/crush-down simultaneous action. As I said before, the top mass did not remain in tact to contain the same mass as it was coming down, progressively making it less and less likely for the rest of the building to blow apart as fast as it did. Again, you say I don't know physics, while you are the one supporting an argument that supports a collapse within a few percent of free fall, (and Shyam Sunder of NIST has even admitted they fell 'essentially at free fall', where rest of the percent is completely missing in terms of resistance. First semester physics, I'm afraid. One does not need to be an expert in physics to figure it out. Simply pointing out some failing beams from heat is not going to explain the entire collapse. That is a slippery slope argument that NIST has relied upon, given they do not even bother to go beyond an initiation explanation and assume the rest of collapse is inevitable. Not only that, but they refuse to release their input data for their collapse models, which is against the basic scientific process, denying peer review.
Paul Jay - credible journalism at its best. Always measured without being soft.
Discovered him a few days ago!!! The end of the video was just one fact after the other. People change, systems change but incompetence, irresponnsibility, arrogance... no matter the system are a desease for which an antidote still isn't found!!! Saying things as they are, plain and brutal is a good start! Thank you sir!
Had to stop at 29:46. This guy hasn't got a clue. Not one word so far regarding Building 7, and a strong scent of actual credibility that a guy in a cave in a mountain, who himself denied any involvement, could orchestrate the only failure of steel frame structures in architectural history and, not just one, not just two, but three steel frame structures one of which was untouched by missile or debris. This guy cannot get his head around how psychopathic these people really are. That was Powell's naivete also. They destroyed him in front of the world shilling a lie. Maybe this guy will say more about the circumstances than his belief in the 'simple failure' of people of otherwise good intent but I don't think he will. The more details of 9/11 that one learns, the closer one comes to having to make a decision if stepping over the political line into active doubt is wise or should one stop before they can no longer believe any official account of the fall and, then what? A truther? And the details which contradict the official story seem almost endless, particularly if there is some serious physics education in one's past. But Building 7 is a good place to start. Nanothermite may also be a place to start. The melting point of steel (~1500°C (~2700°F) versus the temperature of burning jet fuel in a low Oxygen (black smoke) environment (~420°-650°C (~800°-1200°F)) suggests a discrepancy when the rivers of molten metal beneath each of the destroyed buildings is considered along with the total heat contained in a full tank of jet fuel versus the heat necessary to produce the sea of iron lava the workers reported which were hot for months afterward. Also, a steel frame building cannot 'pancake' without extreme help nor do so at free fall speed which all three buildings achieved. In fact, the only way to demolish a steel frame building as we saw them being demolished is to cut every support simultaneously. Learn about the 'electrical upgrade' performed on weekends and at night in the core without security or cameras just prior to the demolishment. This guy cannot believe that people he knows could be so malevolent. This is why he is still only a Colonel. He's a believer.
I knew that day it happened that is was done by a small group of people in our government, it was building 7, and the paper passports some how survived the fireball & falls to the streets below. And not many people talk about the statements made on September 10, 2001 about how the Pentagon was missing 23trillion$. And the missile that hit the Pentagon was in the exact location where the records were kept.,. Here it is now 2019 and too many people still believe the official story witch is complete bullshit. Plus all of the evidence of for proof positive that it was controlled demolition that brought the 3 buildings to the ground, not to mention the FBI headquarters also burned to the ground, so 4 buildings in NYC destroyed by supposedly 2 jet planes (bullshit) I am past ready for the people to rise up and take our country back from these tyrants we live on a tax farm owned by England.,. We no longer have any freedoms except for the freedom of thought.,.
Also I am certain that it was a massive cover up for their crimes against humanity for the last century and the excuse for more war in the Middle East.,.
@@rougharoundtheedges5186 Don't forget the 2 passports that they found at Shanksville (United93)... The entire aircraft disappeared into the ground but oh look... look what we found... 2 passports and a red bandana... these must belong to terrorists.... I mean who else's would they be ?.... Case closed !
@@jimmysparks315 That sounds like a coincidence you couldn't make up..!
He's not a believer, he's an insider. Blaming the system. They are all culpable. Four different war games my arse.
As a seventy-five-year-old, my recollection of 9/11 and the endless attention I paid to its understanding, thereafter, I simply do not believe that anyone can deny the falsity of the official history nor can they deny the obvious complicity of those who danced to the sight of it. I would vote for Donald Trump (and, no, you cannot possibly have a lower opinion of him than do I), if he promised to have published the security camera footage of whatever it was which struck the Pentagon on 9/11. Such a showing would change the world. Those behind the events of that day remain in charge of things.
I agree with you about your synapsis, but this information will never see the light of day. Trump can make his elusions and claims to releasing more documents, for this event and JFK, but this is a form of Orwellian double-speak. He is basically admitting he knows there is more to it then meets the eye, while at the same time projecting an illusion that he is on 'your side' for the 'truth'. Meanwhile, nothing of consequence gets released and nothing likely will. It's quite obvious what happened and the reasons behind if you spend any length of time investigating. The powers that be are so entrenched and controlled they will never allow the official narrative to unravel. It's part of their ongoing plan to this day with the new events happening in the middle east. It's all connected for the benefit of one group in particular and their aims and objectives.
Very interesting interview. Thanks.
Holy shit. This is one of the most important interviews so far. Thank you TRNN for this interview. Americans nead to drag the Bush admin to prison. This guy regrets what he have done, but should be punished as well. But this after Cheney and Bush!
Wilkerson is brilliant, and a brave man to speak out so boldly and truthfully about the inequities spawned by government.
I bet he doesn't view Ed Snowden as a traitor either.
shirley-i think his bravery is only luke warm.. it seems he believes[or claims to] that 911 was only an intelligence failure.. He has not researched the physics of the events,which prove that the official government account is nonsense.
Very cautious commentary indeed.
This fuckin' guy Wilkerson should be arrested and thrown in prison until he writes a book with detailed info on every person he knows that committed crimes against innocent civilians and then tried for treason he then testifies against for 100% conviction rate of every fuckin' criminal in the us gov't that he was involved with during anything that was unconstitutional, immoral, against human dignity, natural human rights then arrest every u s employee that gets a taxpayer paid salary and prosecute them under the RICO act for being part of an ongoing criminal enterprise and treason. That should include the last 20 president that should be posthumously charged and convicted of war crimes and crimes against humanity. EVERYONE of them were fuckin' murdering, thieving' war mongers that are now rich standing and laughin' on the graves of young and old dead innocent citizens of their country.
Wish you'd have asked Wilkerson some tougher questions about 9/11--ie, 12x normal put options on United and American Airlines, 2 fighters tasked to NY redirected over ocean by Navy, war game exercises, molten steel, flight 93's cockpit voice recordings not released, why did UBL deny involvement, not enough evidence for FBI to prosecute UBL, commission not even mentioning WTC 7, cell phone calls not possible in 2001, no testing for explosives at WTC, removal of evidence, FAA tapes destroyed, ability of amateur pilots to control huge airliners with such accuracy while pushing the planes beyond design limits, far exceeding VMOs, planes penetrating steel buildings without losing any wing or tail sections, paper passports somehow getting out of the pockets of hijackers, out of plane, out of the building, and surviving the explosions not just once but twice, at WTC and in PA along with a red bandana, asymmetrical damage leading to symmetrical collapses thru the path of greatest resistance at or near free fall speed, numerous testimony from firefighters about bombs in the WTC buildings, etc..
Thanks for your apt comment and summary of the 2001 absurdities.. and how our 'brave' Col. Wilkinson hasn't spoken out about those. Now in 2024 I had some hope in Wilkinson's views on Russia, but seeing in this interview how he was a believer of an insider, not many chances we can trust his view on that either..
@@tjoeptjoeptjoep His recent interview on Ralph Nader's podcast started with some very interesting comments if you read between the lines. I think it's obvious he knows.
I was beginning to like this guy, Wilkerson until I viewed this video. He is government propagandist to the core. He seems to have a personal beef with Cheney. Not that Cheney isn't darth vader and all....
This iconic photo of The Towers remnants provides clues for the rapid demolition and removal of the remnants. The fire that suppossebly melted the steel causing their demise, was over 80 floors up above the ground, and the weight should have bent the steel beams at ground level, yet they are all pretty much straight and they all seem to have yielded at roughly the same height...
Wilkerson makes reference to Pearl Harbor; and then says that FDR acted, as opposed to W, which did not [in terms of firing/grilling people who SHOULD'VE known, and responded BEFOREHAND, and didn't].
So...let's REALLY look at Pearl Harbor; because PAST behavior is the BEST predictor of FUTURE behavior....
I offer the following examples as evidence of what WAS known prior to Pearl Harbor.
The FIRST use of aircraft in a naval battle was in 1916, at the sea-battle of Jutland; it wasn't the DECISIVE factor, but it showed airplanes COULD be used, to great effect. It was Col. Billy Mitchell, who, in 1926, PROVED airplanes could be used to sink ships, having used WWI German warships as bombing targets. It was Adm Harry E. Yarnell, who, on 07 Feb 1932, conducted a "mock attack" on the Naval facility AT PEARL HARBOR, in a Naval Training Exercise; it was COVERED in the local newspapers, as it was a RESOUNDING successful victory, which was OVERRULED by the "Naval Brass", citing it as being "unforseen and unsportsmanlike" [apparently, the Japanese didn't "get the memo"; I WONDER what plan the IJN USED as a basic blueprint, for the REAL attack, which was 2 months short of being 10 years later, TO THE DAY; think of 07Feb1942]. Then there was the attack, by British Swordfish biplanes, on 13-14Nov1940, against the Italian fleet AT ANCHOR, at the port of Taranto Italy; it was the BRITS who were the first ones to use wooden-fins on aerial-dropped torpedoes, so they wouldn't sink in shallow water; I guess the IJN were paying better attention than the US Navy, eh? How about the "Flying Tigers", 90% of whom were "separated" US military pilots, who were being paid a $500 BOUNTY for every Japanese plane they shot down over China, since 1938 [following Japan's invasion of Manchuria in 1937].
Now COMBINE all of that, and ADD to it, the fact that pertinent intelligence was INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD from the Commanders at Pearl Harbor [Gen Short, and Adm Kimmel], as DOCUMENTED by Robert Stinett's book, "Day of Deceit", as well as an 8-point plan, drafted by the ONI [OfcNavIntel], which was DESIGNED to maneuver the Japanese into "firing the first shot", to quote SecWar Stimson, at the time.
WHY would Pearl Harbor be ALLOWED to happen? To FORCE Germany into Declaring War on the US, due to its treaty OBLIGATION to Japan [following OUR Declaration against Japan following the PH attack], as part of the Axis; this would allow FDR to go to war against Germany WITHOUT being "the aggressor", and come to Britain's rescue DIRECTLY, without INITIATING "direct hostilities", when FDR campaigned in 1940, saying, "I will NOT send America's sons, to fight in Europe's wars." His defense for DOING so was essentially, "I didn't WANT to, but THEY started it!"; even when the US was sending convoys across the Atlantic to supply Britain's war against Hitler, from the very beginning!
Kinda sounds VERY SIMILAR to what's going on in Ukraine/Taiwan now, don't it?
OF COURSE, the PH attack was known beforehand; FDR did EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to MAKE it happen! THAT'S why the aircraft carriers WEREN'T there when the attack happened! JE Hoover, and certainly FDR, KNEW there was a Japanese spy watching Pearl Harbor, and gathering intel. So, since it takes TIME to prep ships to "get underway", and the carriers had to leave AFTER the IJN task force departed [so, due to 'radio-silence', it could NOT be "updated" that the carriers had DEPARTED], it means that the day that the orders were ISSUED, indicates HOW EARLY FDR knew of the impending attack; all they had to do, was...nothing; and LET it happen.
And 9/11 was no different; it WASN'T "incompetence" or "bureaucracy"; it was ALLOWED to happen!
THAT'S why NOBODY who was SUPPOSED to be "paying attention" was relieved, criminally charged, fired, or even reprimanded; EXCEPT for those who TRIED to "sound the alarm".
There IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION. Nobody could BE that incompetent, and STILL "keep their job"; not after almost 3K people DIED [2,977] that day! NOT unless it was "sanctioned"...!
So, do you STILL think it was just "19 high-jackers"; because the REST of the details about 9/11, absolutely REEK of MUCH bigger issues, once one starts asking REAL questions, as opposed to just accepting the BS the media tells us.
Kinda like the Media repeated the same gov't BS about the findings of the Warren Commission; they've DONE IT BEFORE!
HELLOHHH!!
FDR fired two ADM Kimmell and GEN Short who no doubt were guilty of monumental stupidity at Pearl Harbor. However, MacArthur's pitiful handling of what went on in the Philippines despite telling FDR that their "tailfeathers were up" and then allowed the Japanese to destroy every combat aircraft within minutes, leave all the supplies in the middle of Luzon, when everyone knew that the smart thing to do was get the supplies to the fortress a Corregidor and wait for help.
AWESOME INTERVIEW! - thank you for the excellent work. Very revealing to see the thought processes of Mr Wilkerson. Interesting that he basically threw the system under the bus when he said at the end that he thought another investigation in 911 would be ineffectual due to the way its all rigged - AND...yet at the same time underlined that that was why he taught kids now. Somethings got to give somewhere if the authority we expect to get from the state no longer holds. Keep it up...
Powell was the one they got to lie about the weapons afterward.. He was a fall guy. Sad.
hE DIDN'T HAVE TO..he could have refused. THAT is why he had TENET sit behind him so the blame could go around.
Right you are Mary.
Powell did not fall. He was a military made man. Not a patsy.
But then, as one who is not ameriKKKan and is thus subject to a different set of propaganda lies, I can't understand that, though many agree with me that as one of myriad examples, Vietnam ah, there are so many, make it two examples, Vietnam and Iraq. More profoundly, once you get around to processing the justifications, Gulf of Tonkin and 911, it becomes more fiendish. You remember Colin Powell...
Okay, I'm sure we've bucked a few off saddle, but for those few hardy souls remaining...
Correct me if I'm wrong. The whole shebang is voluntary. Nobody is forced, unlike running buddy i$rae£. So.
The gig is frequently/usually/always gangster-crime-evil.
Yet, more than a pass, a pat on the back and gratitude that your boys are out there taming the world and protecting you. Surely you are worldly enough to know that with all the mythology scraped, steel-wooled, and rasped off, you 'want' them to be your handsome young saviours. Knights in shining Armour U$ style. But if you ever give it critical, adult, honest, oversight and peruse Smedley D Butler you'll realize that when the most decorated marine opines that WAR IS A RACKET he is by extension opening that handsome young Billy Jimmy Olaf and Jamal... and Joanne... are by extension racketeers.
Football fields of Bonnie's and Clyde's
29:00 "big money run this country"
Amazing interview, excellent work!
If any of you haven't heard of her, look up Susan Lindauer, and listen to what she says about 9/11 foreknowledge and the Iraq War.
Great interview, great guest.
I would love to take one of his classes, very interesting stuff.
well, I can understand that given Col Wilkerson spent his career in the government, he's unnable to look at what happened on Sept 11, 2001. He says it himself, when he states that if he thought the government had pre-knowledge of the 'terrorist attack,' he'd leave the country.
He was in the government on Colin Powell's staff in 2001. He wasn't going anywhere.
Larry needs to review "Behind the Smoke Curtain" by Barbara Honegger , who , by the way , Was the official Pentagon reporter . Additionally , btw , her book "October Surprise" is well worth reading . Larry is well read , I would be surprised if he missed Barbara's reporting .. Ehud Barak ? gtfooh .
He is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
hello FBI somebody taking flights lesson without landing.FBI-whats his name sir? Lee Harvey Oswald FBI-OK NO PROBLEM,WE KNOW THIS.hello FBI the towers are burning,airplanes had hit the buldings.FBI-it was OSAMA HARVEY OSWALD?SON OF A BITCH HE DID IT.LETS INVADE IRAK NOW
A few months ago Wilkerson did a four or five part interview here.
If you haven't watched it, I strongly suggest you do.
The Real News an Democracy Now! FTW!
Goldman Sachs runs the world
"the political power that looms over such commissions prohibits their getting to the complete truth". Interesting statement. Only holds true if that political power wants to prohibit getting to the truth. Why would that be the case? That's as much of an admission as we'll probably ever get from Wilkerson.
Thank you Paul Jay for revealing a lot about this man's character.
"Big money runs this country"
And here we are 8 years later, waiting and guessing. Wilkerson has been proven right...
@ScottishAtheist focusing on thermite is critical. Denial of thermite is a critical denial of reality. Using the evidence of thermite shows the level of INTENT, not accident, the level of COVER-UP, not ignorance. To act as if this is not important is the most stupid thing any human being could EVER do. It's like being surrounded by 1000 gangsters and pretending they aren't gangsters with machine guns. + a sign glued to you saying FUCK THE MOB. What do YOU think makes sense?
Excellent and informative interview!
I'm surprised that Wilkerson argues that 'they' couldn't have known precisely what form the attack would take. I would argue that 'they' _had_ to know, in order to prevent our air defenses from doing their job, and, in fact, that no truly independent terrorist group would assume that they could succeed in flying planes into buildings, absent some _assurance_ that air defenses would be ineffective on that day.
Now pay the cost of lies !
Neocons acted in best interest of "our closest ally," intentionally.
I think Wilkerson is vary open minded and self critical... but still in denial, mainly because these where his peers, or he doesn't want to end up dead/make too many enemies without hard hard evidence.. looks fishy Lawrence... molten steel, claimed thermite(no explosives tested for by officials)...explosions, building 7.. come the fuck on dude! this guys great but he's missing something or just hasn't looked hard enough... there is no way building 7 comes down with some fires, no way, not in a million years.. and there are many many many things that smell fishy surrounding 9/11...sometimes your just too close to see the forest for the trees, its very normal human condition.
+Missouriflies This guy is a total waste of time. I am not learning anything listening to him. He knows who is truly behind 9/11 but he is not telling us. He does not even want an investigation in the matter All he is saying is that big corporations are running america. No shit sherlock !!! Did he have to go to school a long time to figure that out?
+Missouriflies............... well said.....................wb
He has been militarily brain washed. He will never really critically think.
This is true JOURNALISM!!! Im a huge Jay fan, right now. :)
As honest an interview as one could expect.
I know you left this comment a year ago, but whenever I see a rational and well thought out comment on TH-cam, I have to thank that person. So thanks for not spewing complete gibberish and helping me restore my faith in humanity. :)
Gate Keeper
@usagoodbyeisayhello : It is damage control. The guilt is so obvious so the game becomes to make it look like an honest mistake rather than criminal activity. They want to avoid any possibility of criminal charges and trials. SO they use the old "mistakes were made defense".
Haven't watched TRNN in years. I was brought here after watching Larry Wilkerson's 2019 apology for his involvement in the Iraq War. I wonder if he and Paul Jay are still pushing this 9/11 narrative today?
@purphanz corporatocracy is NOT a republic, it's FASCISM. Mussolini. Look it up
Professional liars on parade. These 2 pretend they do not know so that cowards can pretend they do not know.
1. What caused building 7 to fall?
2. Where did the nano thermite come from?
3. Who were the people arrested on the George Washington Bridge & what did they have in their van?
And yeah w a HUGE bureaucracy it wouldn't surprise me if crucial info got lost in the muddle. But there should be further investigation of this event. Our independence and freedom has always been what was important to us. Humanitarian aid sure but not solving problems w bloodshed and freedom-stealing legislation like the Patriot Act.
Who really did 911 ? watch Complete lectures by Chris Bollyn ,, the worlds expert.. He names the names.
the government of USA did it
Amin Lion
Israel did it
@@MossadDid911yup, qui bono...
"big money runs this country "
You cant say that about the 911 commission when they didn't say one word about building 7?
"BIG $ Runs This Country"
There you have it!
Runs the world, and always did.
excellent interview
2024 and we now know this was an inside job.
Great Job on the interview
Wilkerson's last statements about the U.S. being a corporatocracy were probably more important than the rest of the interview. TheRealNews should do an entire interview with him on this subject alone.
Beautiful interview...
Fdr correctly withheld info on attack. As a result huge shift in political views. Overall saved lives.
@dangerouslytalented no plane hit the pentagon. No plane parts were found. None. 2 angles of cameras show the explosions and NO PLANE. Nada.
Holy fast response Batman! I shall look this up toot-sweet. Thanks, I'm always interested in new pieces of this twisted puzzle. I've sort of been compartmentalizing my 9/11 truth research to the actual physical evidence a la Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth videos because it's less controversial (in my opinion anyway, you can't argue with physics...though it hasn't stopped many from trying.) However, I'm also interested in the bigger picture, so thanks for the link/reference.
A career military man will not carelessly throw out accusations any more specific than he did, but the accusation is still there.
American Intelligence knew full well Pearl Harbor was being studied by the Japanese assets ON the Islands and signalling to offshore "fishing vessels". They had also broken JN25 and told FDR hours before the attack that it was already launched.. FDR set up the Navy for the attack to get into the war.
eatenbytheweasel That is what they wanted a "second Pearl Harbor": The 1st one worked so well.
what is wilkerson's motivation? his answers to paul's questions don't add up for the american peeps.
stay alive? seriously - if someone of his stature went full truther, it's hard to imagine it could be anything but a death sentence - but until that can happen, this country is a charade and a joke.
11:11 ... in the interest of the tribe, in the national interest of Israel, in the interest of privately-held central banks, in the interest of the military-industrial complex, in the interest of the Petrodollar.
Not perfect but another voice to the system is always required
His admitting his assistance with Rice on her defense of her 911 commission report makes me now question his integrity.
Politicians will never tell you the truth
Just can't trust them
@DonVoghano neither governments nor corporations are "inherently bad" but the theft of wages, the ruination of crops and shorelines and food-sources, the destruction of living-space and farm-land space for corporations/etc is inherently bad. People need to keep their eyes open and be ready to stomp down any nasty behaviour instead of condoning it.
wow i said this before he mentioned rumsfeld !! Im on my shit ! Wasnt hard the way he put the sqeeze on condeleeza rice !!
The Real News needs to close off the comments section for their videos.
What about the "faulty" transponders that were possibly turned off around the Pentagon and WTC?
Wilkerson is a national resource that the US owners are very uncomfortable with. Why he is still 'operational' is the question.
Sounds like he making excuses. Same old same old BS.
...and I totally agree with Wilkerson on his last point: there will never be representation on behalf of the American people until us voters give a THUMBS DOWN to both Democrats and Republicans and start voting in candidates from other alternative parties; Libertarians, Green, Independant, etc.
Rights now, Democrats and Republicans know and serve their true masters - Big Money!
Wilkerson is full of BS
Chaney had stock in a Military
Industrial company Made more than $250B in increased
War Business
Not only was Richard Clarke dismissed by Bush, but his position, National Security Coordinator, was left unfilled.
I used to think that our leaders cared about the American people and the future of our county. I no longer believe that. We live in a class dominated society. The people who rule us are member of a class that supplies executives to major corporations, presidents to major universities, and politicians to Washington. The latter group are probably the least talented, but they learn to serve their brothers in the corporate world steadfastly and loyally. If that means betrayal of their country, they do it. I used to know an attorney who told me: we commit felonies all the time. The difference is we know how to do it. Our leaders commit treason. The difference is they know how to do it.
This is a good man.
Wilkerson owns up to a few "mistakes", but insists we needn't look any farther.
Why "waste energy, treasure and time" on a new investigation? Because the people want the TRUTH!
Larry, you are saying, "we're nazi's. Get used to it...
Prisons full of less guilty than Rumsfeld.
@TheFlex21
George washington bridge? i never heard of that incident.....can u tell me or provide a link please? thanks.
I'd love to hear the impossible... a debate twixt Lawrence and Smedley D.
Who's ignorance are we talking about?
Thank you Real News.
I'm curious how Lawrence Wilkerson would have responded to a question with regards to the Modus Operandi of ambitions laid bare by "Operation Northwoods", as those ambitions and M.O. pertain to the ambitions of the PNAC.
Damn good question
the last statement says it all
Great stuff!! Helping to put texture on the circumstances surrounding 9/11. I've said this all along, THIS is where Truthers should be focused. Not stupid bombs or thermiite, fake planes, or any of that bullshit.
It's just human beings, operating with finite knowledge in a chaotic world full of uncertainties. The government IS a mess of bureaucracy
Paul Jay was trying a few times to bring up some Trutheresque arguments, but this guy, knowing the mundane realities, was having none of it.
He's wrong when he says they didn't know the "where" of the 911 strike....they knew what was going to be hit, no doubt in mind with all that has come out since. They knew the when and the where, the "why" they were all in on.
“They made sure to get their capital gains tax cuts laws passed” in lieu of public good.
@magichandpuppet you gotta read between the lines on this one. Wilkerson is accurate in portraying the bureaucracy, as it is for all large organizations of all purposes, forms, sources, corporation or ministry, department or church, etc. And reading between the lines none of that negates any actual lying and he CLEARLY lets you know he crafted lies & omissions for Condi Rice to ensure non-contradiction of assertions with Colin Powell.
He spells it out for you right there.
Since Wilkerson has a dog in this fight, he was hedging his comments on whether our government could be that incompetent, or whether they were culpable. What he said about our "Intelligence Agencies" is downright scary. It makes one think that they may be a defacto branch of our government. I like what he says about facts and events in which he is peripherally or uninvolved. Is he, like Noam Chomsky, acting as a gatekeeper on 9-11?
I disagree with Wilkerson on one point; Gulf of Tolkin "WAS" a false-flag, period!
Pretty sure Project For a New American Century was the name of the group, the document itself was called "Rebuilding Americas Defenses"... Great info still
@ytgv3fc7 Actually, remains nearly every passenger was accounted for(apart from one baby), the black box was found, there are a large number of pictures of aircraft debris, and 95% of the plane was recovered.
Great job Paul jay
@dangerouslytalented Exactly, it's not like he cared how he hit it, as long as he did. He wasn't trying to land the fucking thing.