Jaquet Droz refuses to fix it. So I will! Restoration of a 1960s Jaquet Droz vintage watch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Jaquet Droz, part of the Swatch Group, unfortunately, doesn't provide repair services for vintage models, so I'll be stepping in to do just that. If you're interested in owning this vintage watch, it's up for auction here on eBay. Feel free to check it out. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295705591216
Today, we'll be delving into the intriguing history of Jaquet Droz watches from the 1960s. Alongside exploring its captivating past, I'll also take you through a comprehensive restoration and servicing process. This particular model boasts an A. Schild (AS) Cal. 1702/03 calendar feature and a Swiss, 17 jewels, incabloc movement - a testament to the rich heritage of watchmaking. It's worth noting that A. Schild later became part of ETA.
There's something truly special about these timepieces. It's unfortunate that today's Jaquet Droz seems to overlook this significant chapter of Swiss watchmaking.
#VintageWatch #WatchRestoration #watchrepair
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Links to Sarauer Horology I have no affiliation at all with this company; it's not sponsored in any way. I just like it.
/ sarauerhorology www.sarauerhorology.ca/
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Oil used
Light oil (escape wheel/third wheel/fourth wheel/balance pivots): Moebius 9010
Heavy oil (centre wheel/barrel arbor/barrel/motion work): Moebius HP 1300 or Moebius D5
Pallet oil: Moebius 941/2 and Moebius 9415 pallet grease (for fast beating watches over 19,800bph)
Mainspring: Moebius 8200 grease
Keyless work and upper crown wheel: Moebius 8301 grease
Cleaning agents
Elma - WF Pro Watch Cleaning
Elma Suprol Pro
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A lot of the information in this video came from grail-watch.com/2021/04/22/th...
Any inaccurate information is on me, not them!
00:00 Introduction and history
00:40 Getting the movement out of the case
02:24 Disassembling the backside of the watch movement
09:57 Disassembling the keyless, motion and calendar works
11:27 Cleaning the watch parts
14:00 Winding the mainspring, left handed spring right handed winders!
18:00 Reassembling and oiling the back of the main plate
25:00 Reassembling and oiling the dial side of the watch, keyless, motion and calendar works
32:03 Cleaning up the dial, hands and calendar ring
34:26 Cleaning and fitting balance more oiling.
35:10 Completing the escapement, does it tick?
40:03 Finishing up. Timegrapher results and a look at the watch on wrist - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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YES, the History is important
In general, I really like your voice over work. The history of the company is a nice touch, and your script is clean and your quips are spot on and funny! Keep up the good work! 👍👍
Thank you! You are making me blush. I appreciate the kind words.
I think the history segments are fascinating. And the subtitles pointing out points of interest along the way during disassembly help to give context to the work you're doing (while simultaneously giving you twice the workload during editing, of course!). But your style and skill with these videos continues to evolve, and you seem to be settling into a format that really works. Since most watch repair enthusiasts are a bit on the nerdy side, I can't see how covering the history of the brands, movements or even specific models would be met with anything but enthusiasm.
I'm glad you liked it, and it was very nice of you to let me know. The editing on these things is already insane with all the cameras. I just love the extra work. I'm going to try and go more in depth with the history. I like doing the research, which is, as you said, a bit nerdy. I may even start to script these videos, as at the moment I just shout into the mic for an hour straight, then cut it all together!
I watch a lot of other popular watch channels and you’re offering something different t with highlighting every part in text and detailed history. I love it
Thank you i'm still finding my style on TH-cam so i appreciate the feedback!
the combination of history, technical info and honest process means that i can enjoy this type of video regardless of what im doing, whether its just background sound or a sit down and watch scenario. excellent video!
I appreciate that! Glad you got something out of it.
Youve a great sense of humour! I find myself randomly laughing out loud at your wise cracks..my missus thinks im loosing it.
LOL I'm pretty sure my missus thinks i'm a total nutter by now so welcome to the club. Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the history segment! I watch a few other watch repairers and usually all that you get a small off-handed comment about a so-and-so company and how far they've fallen but no real explanations. Context and background of the situation really help as I only consume horology information from yours and others' videos. I feel the timestamps definitely help for those who aren't as interested in the history.
Thank you. I'll try and get a bit better with the history. I really do appreciate the feedback. I definitely think it adds something to the videos, so I'm happy you liked it.
What brand are your mainspring winders?
C&E. Marshall CO Mainspring winders. I post tool pics and stuff sometimes on my IG instagram.com/p/Cg7KUA8scNN/ feel free to follow me over there if you are interested in that sort of thing
I found the history element as interesting as the actual cleaning. Thank you
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Glad you enjoyed it!
Yes , I love the format of discussing history of the movement while you are dissamblinhg it. It brings us so much closer to the movement while you are trying to bring it to life again.
Good to know thank you for taking the time to let me know.
Appreciate your honesty in owning up the mistakes and correcting yourself. The history narration was good.Thanks.All the best.
Appreciate you letting me know
I love your honesty when you mess up. We all mess up... 👍🏻🇬🇧
Thanks, I appropriate you letting me know.
Keep the History. Enjoyed that video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it thank you for the kind words.
As someone that read history at university I may be biased, but I'll take all the history you care to share with us. Thank you for your work!
I am also loving how you share what you’ve learned from your mistakes
Thank you I've made a few and expect to make a few more no point in hiding it IMO. Glad you are enjoying the content :)
I, for one, appreciate the history lessons (and leaving the mistakes in).
You are welcome nice to see you back on the channel :)
@@Saving-Time wouldn't miss it. I might have even picked up a 60s Prim since that episode.
@@endy_fx Nice, you can never have to many watches
Im a new subscriber, seeing this 7 months after it was posted. I really like the history.. It adds a huge amount to the appreciation of the item in question.
Very very pleased to have found your channel just now.
Glad you are enjoying it thank you for the nice comment!
Love the split screen and the subject. Hoorah!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for letting me know.
I really love the backstory and detail of historical significance regarding this movement and how it intertwines with the manufacturing groups of the past. Well done. Love your sense of humour along with your humility. I hope you keep going in the direction of your current format 👍
Thanks Steve very nice of you to let me know thanks, I'll be keeping this format going forward glad you liked it :)
Another absolutely amazing video.
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks again
Well done & good job. Historical background was nice to discover.
Thank you
Thank you for this interesting video.
The images are beautiful, and your comments are pleasant to follow.
I really appreciated the results of your research about this brand of watches.
You are an excellent watchmaker.
I believe that your beautiful modesty helped you become one.
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Merci pour cette intéressante vidéo.
Les images sont belles, et vos commentaires sont agréables à suivre.
J'ai beaucoup apprécié le fruit de vos recherches à propos de cette marque de montres.
Vous êtes un excellent horloger.
Je crois que votre belle modestie vous a aidé à le devenir.
Thank you I appreciate the kind words
Specially appreciated the History segment. The watch is now back to new!
Thank you glad you liked it!
Yes, please include the history. It’s important for context. Thanks!
Thank you for letting me know!
Great commentary and very relaxing to watch you work. Thank you
Thank you very nice of you to let me know,
I love the dialogue and the history lesson. Please keep it up
Glad you enjoyed it sir. Thanks for letting me know.
This video popped up in my feed unexpectedly.
Fascinating history and mesmerizing to view.
I appreciate the dexterity, patience and memory to get it back together and functioning again.
Learned something new today.
Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the kind words
I think even other channels should tell the history from the brand and watch and by doing this you have a new sub.
I did love to hear all the info , thank you for making the time for this video 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks very much for sharing this video with us. So good to get the history side of things too. Please keep on sharing history with us. It makes it way more interesting.
Will do! Thanks for the kind words
The history section is a great idea, wearing the watch is great but to know a bit about it is even better.
I agree the history is the main thing for me, glad you liked it.
The history segment is fantastic thank you.
Thank you for the kind words!
I love this setup , with you telling the story and in the meanwhile we can see it being disambeled
Thank you :)
@@Saving-Time no thank you, for being a public teacher of sorts. We need more channels like yours feeding human intellect.
Beautiful demonstration of watchmanship. Excellent videos. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for taking us with you on a time tour. Nice watch, restored with respect.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice touch, beautiful watch. I wish I had the opportunity to have such a lovely timepiece. Good effort and best of luck to you. I 👌
Thank you very much!
Love the format and history lesson it gives it more meaning and adds to the value of your channel and really what drives your passion
Thanks for letting me know and i appreciate the kind words
@@Saving-Time your welcome
New here. History is essential to understanding everything. Thank you for sharing this interesting story.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for letting me know :)
I like the history. It's a big part of my interest in watches. Great review. Thank you!
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it.
Excellent video! Thank you for all your work and trouble.
My pleasure! Glad you liked it
I love the history. I really like your voice it’s melodious.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it
Great history brief! Thanks.
Thanks glad you liked it
Great video, love your self-deprecating style too, very skilful workmanship!
Glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate the kind words
Ditto to the last comment. History in my opinion is half the reason it is so good to watch these wondrous watches being brought back to life.
I agree glad you liked it thank you for letting me know.
I am so so glad you mention the difficulty when reinserting the barrel arbor. That has been the bane of my watch repair existence! I can't count the times I have been on all fours with a flashlight or broom looking for a #$&@ barrel arbor that pinged off! All others seem to have no problem with this. Now I'm your fan for life😅
One of the comments mentioned holding onto the arbor with a pin vice when installing it, it seems like it could work i'm going to try it. Maybe give it a go if it works for you let me know!
I tried that method just a couple of days ago and it did work well. Only concern is many arbors don't have a long enough extension to get a good grip on with the pin vice. This one was an old pin lever watch where the mainspring barrel had a second gear so it drove both the minute and hour wheel directly. That arbor was longer lending itself to that method. Thanks again. I also appreciate the history.
Yes i did wonder about the grip being an issue on some arbors I guess it would be to much to ask for that something is easy lol appreciate you letting me know
Great video, I like the historical research. Great combination of excellent technical skills and standup comedy.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words :)
Hi, I am enjoying your videos, especially the history of various manufacturers which adds valuable context. You seem concerned that parts of the videos could be "boring". My guess is that people viewing watch repair videos are not doing so for excitement. Such vids are, by their nature, slow, detailed and repetitive. Don't worry about it. Viewers have the power to easily skip forward and backwards as they wish.
I like also that you are "budget constrained" like most people, and don't have every bit of fancy kit so think of new or different ways of doing things. This is keeping it real and is encouraging.
Keep up the fine work!
don't ever stop telling the history of watch horology the best part of watch making.
Cheers I agree, and I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback.
Agree! That’s how watches came into existence so I feel like leaving that out means you’re missing part of the whole story!
These old AS movements were such good little work horses. Good restoration 👍
I agree i'm pretty much always happy when i open a vintage watch and see an AS. Glad you liked it :)
Great interesting video and I enjoyed learning about the history of the brand. Thanks 🙏
Thanks Michael glad you enjoyed it thanks for letting me know about the history segment.
Never really was interested too much into watches, I want to get something that I like and, take good care of it.
But something about your video style is just. Soothing to watch. It's fun, calm, and well... Really interesting. You are one knowledgeable chap, and I hope more people find your channel, cheers! :D
That's very gratifying to hear, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I started watching your videos for the history (and humour) fantastic I’ve learned so much ❤️
Glad you like them! Thank you for letting me know.
I liked your video today. Keep making it real like you did. Thanks
Very nice of you to say thank you!
Just found your channel, and so far, I'm enjoying it.
Welcome aboard! Glad you are enjoying it so far :)
Love this format!
Thanks for letting me know.
The history section is excellent.
Excellent format. Your history and candor for narration of content is perfect. Video length is ideal. Brilliant!. Very enjoyable vs some of the more loquacious watch repair channels.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words
Spot on! Give us some history first. This really helps on makers that are less known.
Thank you Arthur i appreciate you taking the time to let me know!
Thank you very much. Really enjoyed it as a starting watch enthousiast. Keep them coming :)
Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed the video
Fine job . You did it so good . I like small watches as well I have two minute man Bulova`s one made in the US the other is Swiss made . They appear to be almost the same . Your the first watch maker to use leather to polish jewels that I have seen .
Thank you; I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm a big vintage Bulova fan. Do you have the rectangular minute man? I think they also did a square one, but I can't remember off the top of my head. Anyhow, great watches! Thanks again for the kind words.
more history like this in other videos please, fits perfectly
Will do, thank you for letting me know!
This is a first for me but in effect its like a miniture engine the fuel being the spring , its a whole new world with some very clever engineering and your format really good , thanks. Razzo
I'm glad you liked it. My father was a car mechanic, I never got much into it. Instead, I became a computer programmer, and I always regretted not getting more into mechanics. Now it's kind of hard as I live in an apartment in the centre of a capital city, so watches... very cool, but the oil is a bit more expensive.
First class rebuild,and a fine explanation, keep up the good work, I don’t know why the company that produced the watch , or companies run away from re-furbishing and rebuilding their vintage watches.
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it I don't understand it ether!
great filming!!!
Thanks :)
Really like the history to give the context :)
I really enjoy the history, your knowledge of watches and time keeping is very enjoyable to watch. Your pace keeps me interested from start to finish. I own and enjoy several mechanical and automatic watches. Ever since I was a young 5 year old boy I wore a watch, I guess I though it was cool or something. Keel up the good work!
It's still cool well it is to me at least. Thank you for the kind words I appreciate it.
Love the history!
Thanks for letting me know glad you liked it
That was enjoyable, love the way you do things.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for letting me know, appreciate it - David
Now that’s precision work that is ❤
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
Yes, please. Include all the history you wish. Thank you.
Thank you for letting me know appreciate you taking the time.
Yes the history and chit chat is important.
I think so also, glad you enjoyed the video
Please keep doing the history!!!!
Will do :) Glad you liked it
Great video & very honestly done thx for sharing it.
I enjoyed this entire video. I find your dedication and artistic skill most captivating. Much appreciated. Thank you, Sir
Thank you kindly! I appreciate the kind words
I really injoyed this video and also liked the history lesson. Thanks and subscribed.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the sub
Really good video as usual, history part added value definitely 👍 greetings from Arabia
Thank you! 👍and greetings from Prague
You did a good job on that watch it turned out very nice, and I agree with you that a smaller watch is better for a dress watch.
Thank you i appreciate the kind words glad you liked the video.
Just discovered you, enjoyed that, thank you 👍
Awesome, thank you!
Nice and history is amazing!
Thank you!
I love the history bit, 3 cameras nice but consider 2, mag in 1/4 or smaller of screen. Love your sense of humor! Nice work I appreciate it.
Thanks for letting me know glad you enjoyed it.
Comment? Really enjoyed the video. Camera work is something you have really worked on and achieves everything that we want. The history element is smashing and the rabbit follow up is even better. The learning tips give just a little more. What else can I say? Oh yes! Thank you
Much appreciated! Nice of you to take the time to let me know. Cheers
Just watched this and subbed to your channel, just getting interested in watch repair and have not invested. Im just gathering information. I love the back story and history and find it easier to listen to the british accent so this was a wonderful find for me.! Thank you!
Awesome, thank you! Glad you liked it.
Great restoration
Thank you!
❤ I enjoyed this video. Thank you!
You are so welcome! Thank you
I'm not a watch expert so the detailed history gives me a good idea of why a watch is special (or not). I do have a problem with text on screen while you're talking; I can't do both things
ok good to know thank you for taking the time to let me know
You are the Jago Hazzard of horology! I discovered your channel by accident and very glad that I did. Subscribed!
I'll take that as a compliment I love that guy. Thank you
@@Saving-Time And so you should. Great work. 👍
Loved the history
Good to know thank you!
Wonderful information thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Glad it was helpful!
History in general is important. We can't understand the world as it is today if we don't know how it became that way. The history of horology is a very narrow niche and therefore it is very interesting. Good job informing your audience. Keep it coming. You could screw the arbor on the tip of a threaded rod the size of a screwdriver. Insert the arbor, then unscrew the rod while holding it with a tweezer. Obviously, the thread has to be the correct size. Which may be different from one arbor to another.
Will do and i agree with you the history is key. Thank you for the kind words!
That's clever. Now to find a threaded rod that teeny.
Great video. Please proceed doing your videos like this. Thanks
Thank you for letting me know!
Yes i enjoy the history part of the video. Keep doing them.
Hi,
If you do not like to install the barrel arbor as the last step before closing the barrel, you could have done it once the mainspring was in the retainer ring and placing the unit on your barrel tool which has a whole in the center where the arbor fits and and make sure the arbor tongue fits in the mainspring hole.
Once this is all together place the whole unit on the barrel itself, line up the arbor over the barrel hole and push the mainspring down into the barrel. Voile!
Sometimes the barrel cover becomes rounded after several overhauls so make sure it is flat and gives the arbor just enough endshake but not too much.
Nice video👍
Hi Robert, thank you very much for the tip. I shall try it out, thank you! I appreciate the advice. Cheers
Love the videos! Where you were talking about how difficult the jewels are to pick up, I've heard using a larger pair of tweezers, like a double ought, helps a lot. Even though it's rather counterintuitive. Hope that helps!
Great tip! I'll give it a go thank you
The history makes the build special. And I use B dip to clean the pallet fork, balance and escape wheel as I have had damage in the past with the ultrasonic. We all do things differently but the ultrasonic can loosen the glue that holds the jewels in the pallet fork. I have lost one once.
Do you think that's a direct result of the ultrasonic or the cleaning fluid used? Shellac melts in alcohol, as I'm sure you are aware. I'll just add that for anyone reading this comment who does not know. I use Elma's WF Pro Watch Cleaning Fluid. I've never had an issue with the shellac; I'm not saying there is not one, and I'll report on the channel if I ever have an issue in the future. A little more caution with these parts is no bad thing, and I appreciate you taking the time to let me know.
I love the spring flip trick
Thanks! There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty cool if you have a 3D printer, which I'm going to assume a lot of my community does :D
Contrary to what I may have told you earlier, it is in fact safe for the balance wheel pivots to have the shock settings removed while cleaning.The pivots won't touch anything but the cleaning fluids. One lives and learns I guess (and hope..😊). I do like the history lessons. Thank you.
I've seen it done both ways by experienced watchmakers. I'm not sure which is best, and I'm not sure it matters that much as long as the pivots get cleaned. Welcome back, and thanks for the revised tips. and I try to learn; it takes a few mistakes normally lol
Look here mate, you and I see eye to eye on the Swatch group and what's happened to the industry. Reminds me of the diamond industry. It's always done for the same reason. To make rich men richer and screw over the small guy. Once it's done they always seem to shit on their own history and their egos get so big they don't care about the craft anymore,they all just sit around in big rooms smoking cigars and enjoying the smell of their own farts. You do amazing work and I enjoy watching immensely my friend.
Thanks I appreciate that, swatch group I can't talk about here in the comments i'd get banned from TH-cam lol btw I finally finished the Tissot video 'tis a lovely looking watch
Enjoyed video very much !!!!
Thanks Sonny appreciate you letting me know.
You would really love RGM watches. A small workshop in Lancaster, PA. Tiny number of pieces made each year. Rose engine. Even use some totally original, fully in-house movements!
Doubt I’ll ever be able to afford one (although they’ve had some for as “low” as 5k USD) but I plan to tour their workshop one day.
Anyway, look up RGM watches! As artisanal high horology as it gets.
I love RGM awesome work i'd love to tour there workshop. Awesome to see American watchmaking back on the map :)
the dialogue is all very interesting: so, please keep up the good work :)
Will do glad you liked it.
Recently found the channel and am enjoying it so far. If you can get your hands on one definitely pick up an elgin Edgewater. American, cool style and not expensive. Down side is you can't find the gaskets for it anymore. it's always a gamble on being able to get case back screws out and back off at all. Lesser quality steel and the heads get chewed up from use and skin oil.
Thank you I'll keep an eye out for an Elgin for sure. I have a Gruen coming up soon I like the American watch companies of old i'm a bit of a fan.