@@matthewdickerson826 ya in down at my local store pretty much everyday! I don't exactly advertise where that is tho for obvious internet reasons. But I plan on running the convention circuit soon to meet and hang out with everyone
Lovecraftian kind of entities are so funny in 40k because all of the normal, common threats are so existential, horrific and grimdark that when there's suddenly a mysterious, unknowable cosmic horror, it's like "Hmm, eldritch interdimensional entity beyond the comprehension of any being in this plane of existence or the immaterium as well? Yep, sounds about right, let's put that in warehouse four."
The scary thought to me there is almost the exhausted ambivalence of like, "Fuck it, just censor the records and ignore it for now. Let's focus on the threats we can actually fight."
@@austinmontalvo3273 that’s a great point - and probably speaks to what would have to be the psychological state of humanity at this point in history: wherein humans are largely desensitized to the horrific reality of 40K.
Yes, in here is where we keep unknowable cosmic entity #696, we're not sure why but it really likes to hold marshmallows in its tentacles, not eat them, just hold them. One theory is that it thinks of this as bait. Moving on...
I love the little detail of the Deathwatch Chaplain carrying around the master-crafted stasis bomb for over a decade. It just makes me imagine the battle brothers treating the chaplain like the guy who hoards all the potions in MMOs "Hey, are you ever going to use that?" "Shut up! I'll use it when I really need it!"
2 centuries, even for space marines that long enough for him to known as that old f*****r that carries around a time bomb to the most recent 2-3 generations of space marines.
Subject 696 reminds me of stories revolving around Azothoth, Lovecraft's 'Blind Idiot God' that is kept asleep by horrors playing horns at the center of the universe.
It's a ripoff of the "SCP foundation" wiki. Look up "SCP 682". I'm not a fan of it, to be honest. I'm not against references to other sci-fi being added into the 40k lore but this one is way too on-the-nose.
The Tiamet fleet implies a VERY unsettling reality of the Tyranids, either the Tiamet fleet is operating under a separate Tyranids hive mind, which implies there could be MORE! Or the hive mind is many more than just consumer Tyranids, and even the most terrifying Tyranids that have entered the galaxy are merely foot soldiers for something much more terrifying
I am running under the idea that its a forward command base for the hivemind able to process things faster than what was processing things before it was built.
696 sounds like it could be the result of a halo device. It was part of a rogue trader fleet and lord knows how much time passed for the ship inside the warp too
@ianharrison5758 it would make sense given it's a damn near unkillable monstrosity and is tied to the group that typically comes across the devices and the warp and it's total lack of regard for the normal passage of time being involved as well as where the thing was found and the whole cannibalism thing
You should do a video on all the horrors and heretical tech locked up in the vaults under the Imperial Palace on Terra. When you have to have a dedicated team of Custodes who's job it is to guard those vaults you just know what's down there is insane.
I mean, a Primarch could probably kill it or, should it prove to indeed be an extrusion of some larger extradimention entity, drove it from reality. But the galaxy is vast, and we have a whome two Primarchs to work with right now.
I am so in awe of your ability lately to push out such a quantity of content with apparently zero drop in quality of production or of quality of concept. You're absolutely unreal dude. Love it all. Keep smashing it!
Theres the "Tyrant Star". A darkness that sometimes envelopes a star and turns it black, flames and all. The system where it shows up starts to go mad. Civil unrest, strange geological and weather activity. A bad omen before tragedy strucks.
I have a theory about the harrowing. It seems, the creatures from that incident were originated from the Skein, a place that transcedent material realm as it become the barrier between real space and Warp. "In the skein, Bielanna fought to control her feelings. The mon-keigh knew nothing of the universe’s secret workings, and for the briefest moment, she envied them their ignorance. Who but the Eldar could mourn lives that had not even been born? ‘I am Bielanna Faerelle, Farseer of Biel-Tan,’ she cried into the oceanic depths. ‘I am master of my soul and I bring only balance in my heart and thoughts.’ Everything in the skein rejected constancy. It sensed her lie. This was a place of dreams and nightmares, where all things were infinite. To give something a name marked it as not of the skein. And that was dangerous. It drew things that hid in the cracks between destinies. She saw them ooze from half-glimpsed shadows. That shadows could exist in this realm of absolute light was a measure of their threat. These were not the crystalline web-forms of warp spiders, nor yet the glimmer of future echoes moving from potential to reality. These were things twisted out of true by the tortured nature of space-time beyond the galaxy’s edge. They defied the tyranny of form, mere suggestions of grub-like null-spaces that existed only to consume. She moved onwards, far from their questing, sphincter-like mouths and blind, idiot hunger."- Forges of Mars It imply that there is 'crack' within the Skein, thus, became a 'way in' for nameless eldritch horrors from beyond. Here, a little insight about the Skein's structure. "She found herself in a realm of light and movement. She could see the flicker of other eldar around her, like candles in twilight. A tracery of white, the infinity circuit, linked every other light together, stretching on without horizon into the impossible distance. Energy flowed along the maze, back and forth, surging and ebbing, binding everything together with its movement, linking the eldar with one another. And beyond. Beyond was something even more spectacular, defying rationalisation. Beyond were the constantly shattering panes of existence; the overlapping planes of destiny; the interwoven threads of fate. The present surrounded Thirianna, but just out of reach was the future, and in the darkness behind was the past. Every life, every thought, every movement, every motive, every emotion, weaving together in a dazzling tapestry of cause and effect. It branched out, splitting and dividing like cells, spawning entire new universes and possibilities with every passing moment. This was the skein, and it was beautiful. And too much. Too much to see, to comprehend, to understand." - Path of the Seer I love Warhammer is bascially algamation of various genres existed in our world. These are few among dozens more.
@@afryanmahendra2055 but the realm of light and movement is where the beings exist, and also where she sees the traces of the infinity linking everything together, right? In ur insight about the skeins structure you literally quote the eldar seeing the flickers of other eldar and the tracery of the infinity circuit. Ik I’m prolly wrong but you just made it rlly confusing
@@angelgoo7772 The reason is simple. The character uses the infinity circuits to look upon the Skein. Because the Skein itself is the realm where fate is created and overlapping at the same time. "As Bielanna’s senses flowed into the skein, she followed the threads of the warriors back into the past, seeing shadowy ghost-figures spinning and leaping around her. Their every movement was fluid, economical and deadly. The phantom shapes spun around her with ever greater fury as she looked down at the wraithbone runestones in the sand. The Scorpion and the Doom of Eldanesh. Both lying atop the Tears of Isha. The pattern was familiar to her, each one tracing the line of fate’s weave. Between them they represented skeins of futures that had already been realised, that were yet to be, and which might never be. They braided together in innumerable threads, and each one was - in turn - made up of a dizzying number of potential futures, making the task of interpretation and manipulation almost impossible." - Forges of Mars Omnibus
The Deathwatch really are the most underrated formation in the Imperium. My 40K gaming group had this joke about how big a mistake it would be if a detachment of Grey Knights tried their whole "no witnesses, no exceptions" derp move on them because the Deathwatch are basically just an adventuring party of Astartes.
My headcanon for Tiamat is that not only is it a beachhead for the Hivemind itself in the form of that continent beast, but it's also where the Nids are trying a new technique far different than what they've done in the past. In the past, they'd infiltrate with Genestealers and establish cults. But those tend to get noticed eventually. The abduction of entire ships makes me think they're gonna try invading Imperial worlds not with Hive Fleets, but with Imperial ships. Or maybe they'd use them for recon, with specialized Tyranid bioforms designed to USE the ships. Ones that, while they could pass initial examination, are Nid to the core. Imagine you work on an orbital station, and a fleet of Rogue Trader ships arrive and dock. They have their papers though they're out of date, and everyone on board seems pale. They linger for a few months legitimately trading and enjoying liberty time on world before leaving. A year later, a Hive fleet drops into the system and they know exactly where to hit... because the crew of the Rogue trader fleet were ALL nid bioforms in the shape of the former crews. Not genestealers: infiltrators and spies of the highest order. And while they were in dock, they got new credentials - legally- for docking in other systems. Systems like Terra.
@@Integritys_Sum Imperial space ports probably lost that shit 40,000 years ago. Most of their stuff runs on clockwork cogs and gears, and some dude's brain hooked up to a car battery.
I like to think that both The Harrowing and The Pale Wasting were the same thing: civilization of vile aliens that does not conquer continents of planets, but dimensions. The Harrowing had a passage, that was sealed, but Imperium wasn't as lucky with the Pale Wasting and the passage is still there, which is why the marines are there to keep an eye on it.
I love how those Necrons in the Ghoul Stars are just like, straight up chillin'. 'The Imperium sending a giant, desperate crusade to stop an unknowable, impossible threat? Can't bother to get out of me tomb for that'
my theory is the Pale Wasting was indeed a Necron war, likely the Imperium's first encounter with the race. but it wasn't just Necrons, it involved the last remaining shard of the C'tan god "Llandu'gor The Flayer". the region may also have been the location where Flayer was obliterated by the Necrons. an event said to have permanently altered time and space. that would explain why the Ghoul Stars feel so weird to everyone, and why they have an inherent otherworldly presence capable of even driving a passing Hive Fleet insane
@@Benjamin1998 I don't think the pale wasting were necrons, but instead that the death of the flayed god had messed up reality so badly that it caused a different dimension to begin leaking into our reality. And that the pale wasting was a huge army of beings from said dimension.
I love Hive Fleet Tiamet. When 10th edition launches,I'm gonna start a Tyranid Army and paint them up as Hive Fleet Tiamet. I enjoy the mystery that surrounds them and what they're doing in the Tiamet system to it's various planets 👀
I like the idea that it's growing a Hive Mind/Synapse Link for our galaxy. Like if each Galaxy they were eating had it's own hivemind, or primary link to the overmind.
Fun fact: "Xeno" comes from greek which means "stranger" or "foreigner". The use of the word "xeno" to refer to alien life forms is a relatively recent development that began in the late 20th century with Scottish biologist A.G. Cairns' book "Seven Clues to the Origin of Life." (1959) and most popularly with the movie Alien in (1979). Before that the word 'xeno' was mostly used in English to refer to anything odd or unnatural whether they be extra-terrestrial, supernatural or just foreign to one's experiences.
My favorite is the Hive fleet that tried to invade the Ghoul Stars and failed and that’s pure Xeno not much chaos you’d think the space bugs would dominate that’s the scary part or that Malcarion wanted to conquer and go into it but the rest of the Imperium were too scared and wanted to back out so he did
dude, wes, your coverage of the more horror centered parts of 40k are some of my favorite videos in recent memory. I've been a horror junkie for a long time and your narrations, and explanations are all fantastic. Please keep up your awesome work
Honestly it's always a pleasure and I ABSOLUTELY love your videos about the terrifying and ruthless things that exist in Warhammer 40k. The more of these types of videos, the better lol. Also I still enjoy the story you told of the "Creature" that a Deathwatch team captured on a planet that was loaded with Tyranids but for whatever reason, no device or being can ever detect whatever set trap off. But they don't want to open it either.
Maybe Hive Fleet Tiamat ate a Primarch and as a result is evolving vastly different. Or the other Hive Fleets are the conquest and assimilate Fleets and Tiamat is designed to be a "brain node / command and control" of the Overmind to direct the other fleets
All of these were awesome, I'm a bit obsessed with cosmic unknown horror. The Harrowing definitely gave me goosebumps, loved the artwork chosen. Keep up the amazing content!
I mean if the theory is right, it's the only example of it to exist in our universe and it's a pretty small fragment, considering when this happened it might just be that either the Custodians deemed the Death are capable enough to contain the fragment, why waste the resources needed to discretely move it to Terra? Or possibly that they don't even know about it, yes the Custodians maintain an information network outside to keep an eye on the wider imperium but they tend to focus on the Terra and more specifically the Palace right?
Oh man, the first one reminds me of that Tyranid short-story where they find an invaded ship whose librarian has been turned into a puppet connected to the residential Broodmind. Man, that sent shivers down my spine.
Luetin is good but.. sometimes it just sounds like he drones on and on and on. Idk it's hard to listen to him sometimes. Baldemort, the remembrancer, and wolf lord roe is my go to lore channels. Majorkill is obvious for the lulz. A border prince for the win also
As an outsider to most of WarHammer 40k's lore. I would thing that the fleet mentioned at 10:55 may actually be trying to build a sort of beach head. Something that their described method of intelligence (the more there are, the better their tactics and organization.) It is my theory that they are trying to grow some sort of mass from which more can be birthed and permanently improved themselves due to pure proximity to such a massive mass of biomass.
I’m personally of the opinion that, in the coming edition, Tyranids will receive some treatment similar to what the Necrons got a couple years ago. Where their lore will be more fleshed out, and we may even hear the Hivemind itself speak.
Nah, having the Hive Mind speak is dumb. Not all Godlike entities should speak. The moment they speak is the moment the mystery around them vanish and they'll just become some f*cking saturday cartoon villains.
Hopefully not, at least in regards to the Hive Mind. Having it speak would ruin a lot of the mystique of the Tyranids. I wouldn’t be opposed to having more disturbing cases like whatever Tiamat is up to though.
My theory about 9-Kappa-Mu. It was places by the Old Ones back during the War in Heaven and helped Mankind advance through the ages by slowly but surely feeding information to us. You should never go fron First Fire to Fusion reactor, and so the artifact was designed to take it slow. The reason it does not have any signal nowadays is because it stopped broadcasting when Humans learned FTL travel.
I don't remember what it's called, but there's a test subject locked up in the main death watch research facility that's room was completely empty. And no type of scanning or alarm would pick up it's existence. Yet the chamber reads "occupied" and what ever it is has killed people entering it's room. So it's a completely invisible horror that is just left in a empty room where no one goes in or interacts with it.
Really like this spooky videos you cover from 40k! My favourit so far is "The Disappearance Of Fornax Aleph", it's just so ominous and unexplainable, I really like it~ And what soundtrack did you use during Hive Fleet Tiamat? I heard it in your other spooky videos and I really like it and would like to hear more of it! Keep up the good work and I am looking forward to see and hear more from you : D
A fellow MtG lore fan, I see? Ugin's explanation to Jace of how the Eldrazi worked during Battle for Zendikar was one of the coolest moments in MtG...Honestly, that story block was really, really good.
@@weshammer You know, I was actually just thinking about this analogy earlier today for reasons I can't even remember. And then it was brought up here, and I was like, "Hey, that sounds suspiciously familiar!"
Just a note, there are some things in the warp that have no chaos god influence. Things from before the dark gods came into existence or manifested at least. There are also some theories that the chaos gods are actually just aspects of a much greater whole i.e the dark god of chaos undivided. So three possibilities; 1) As suggested it is a form of interdimensional entity. 2) It is a entity of a greater whole of chaos, thus looking different. 3) It is a "thing" from the warp that simply exists on its own.
Ok, now that is very cool how they actually put real world conspiracies into the lore. 9-KAPPA-MU = Black knight satellite but on a 40k scale. Its supposed to be some ancient "satellite" that's been in earths orbit for hundreds of years, likely just random crap in our orbit or the standard person sees something weird in the water and assumes sea monster. That said its still pretty cool how they incorporated it into the 40k universe.
As a newcommer to the community, I love your videos highlighting these lesser know aspects of the Warhammer universe. Keep up the awesome and interesting videos!
It really is! I'm kind of shocked that more people haven't covered the stuff from it. I guess the obscure stuff doesn't get a ton of views, but it's really fun to read about!
Not to mention just *how much* of it there is. Between two whole editions of Dark Heresy, plus Rogue Trader, Deathwatch, Black Crusade and Only War there must be at least fifty books to draw pretty consistently well-written lore and detail from.
Thanks again for another awesome vid!! Have you thought about doing videos for each chaos God's realm?? Like a long format for each or a very long video of all. Seeing nurgle's garden would be awesome. I Loved all your shorts on the realms of Slaanesh. It's such an awesome subject that I think It deserves its own long format video.
These are my favorite types of videos you make. I love hearing about the lesser known aspects of the lore, especially horror mysteries. Please make more
Videos like these envelop me with a fascination for the Warhammer universe, like no other. The quality of the video just adds even more to it and I want to deepen my knowledge of the Franchise! Thank you for these amazing videos!
Ah, the Harrowing... The third Calixis-associated mystery you have brought up recently. Though I have arrived late for this one, I must say that it is always delightful to see the eldritch things of those cursed stars being discussed. I hope you had fun reading up on the topic, even if it is one with scant information regarding it available, even if one were to obsessively sift through the source material numerous times looking for cross-references as I have.
Your creepy pasta style stories are great , thank you. Specially like “the watcher in the rain” and “the way out” and the video right before this one. They really do keep me entertained
Wes I gotta thank you, I love 40k and it's one of those passions you want to share. While my wife doesn't have an interest in it you help me show her a thing or two that makes her laugh
Ironically, our best chance to have most of these mysteries answered is for someone from games workshop to accidentally leak them on war thunder forums
fitting you have a warthunder ad because right before this video I had a passing thought that it'd be cool if there was a game about mechanized combat in warhammer, either fantasy or 40k
My theory for the ghoul stars is that during the reign of the necrontyrs, they experimented with some of their ridiculously powerful really breaking tech in that region (the stuff that's either been destroyed or locked away at this point), and ended up opening a rift to a different dimension or plane of existence THAT IS NOT THE WARP, but is home to eldritch entities beyond comprehension even compared to the chaos gods. Like lovecraftian outer gods, you could say. Like, how did the Flayer virus happen, and why is it concentrated on that region? The necrons have been afraid of that place for a while. It makes sense that they know they fucked up there.
This was awesome. Had never heard of the 9-Kappa-Mu artifact. And agreed, some of the best "quiet" parts of the WH4K lore goes into cosmic horror territory.
I think Tiamet is building like a big Antenna for the Hive Mind and when the Tyranids get to close to winning the Empiere destroys it and sudenly all the Hive Fleets run Amock killing each other nerving the Tyranids to a good Extend.
It is pretty mind bugling like if there is another dimension then is there chaos in it? Is it more powerful than Chaos which literally inhabit hell. And whether or not the chaos god knew about the existence of such dimension
Been brainstorming a homebrew chapter for a while based on the unknowable and eldricht inter-dimensional threats from around the galaxy and beyond, any idea if such a chapter exists already? Love the videos they’re super fun and inspiring :)
I think Tiamat is drying to grow a proto-hivemind? Or something like that. Instead of having normal powerful creatures that act as conduits for the hive mind, they want to make this big beacon? Maybe it IS the hivemind. The tyranids lost their other fronts in other galaxies, and retreated here?
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Hey Wes, do you ever socialize with your community anywhere?
@@matthewdickerson826 ya in down at my local store pretty much everyday! I don't exactly advertise where that is tho for obvious internet reasons. But I plan on running the convention circuit soon to meet and hang out with everyone
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Lovecraftian kind of entities are so funny in 40k because all of the normal, common threats are so existential, horrific and grimdark that when there's suddenly a mysterious, unknowable cosmic horror, it's like "Hmm, eldritch interdimensional entity beyond the comprehension of any being in this plane of existence or the immaterium as well? Yep, sounds about right, let's put that in warehouse four."
Sounds like SCP with extra steps
The scary thought to me there is almost the exhausted ambivalence of like, "Fuck it, just censor the records and ignore it for now. Let's focus on the threats we can actually fight."
No warehouse 4 is where we keep the ancient mysterious artifacts facts of unknown origin and use
@@austinmontalvo3273 that’s a great point - and probably speaks to what would have to be the psychological state of humanity at this point in history: wherein humans are largely desensitized to the horrific reality of 40K.
Yes, in here is where we keep unknowable cosmic entity #696, we're not sure why but it really likes to hold marshmallows in its tentacles, not eat them, just hold them. One theory is that it thinks of this as bait.
Moving on...
I love the little detail of the Deathwatch Chaplain carrying around the master-crafted stasis bomb for over a decade. It just makes me imagine the battle brothers treating the chaplain like the guy who hoards all the potions in MMOs "Hey, are you ever going to use that?" "Shut up! I'll use it when I really need it!"
2 centuries, even for space marines that long enough for him to known as that old f*****r that carries around a time bomb to the most recent 2-3 generations of space marines.
Bro stayed strapped with the master ball
@@sovaxelemizzrym4377 Think he gets into Pokemon battles with Trazyn the Infinite?
"How do you even use it?"
"Hmmm... you pull the pin, and count to three."
"Not two, or four?"
"No, and DEFINITELY not five!"
After the pin is pulled, Mr. Stasis bomb is not your friend
Subject 696 reminds me of stories revolving around Azothoth, Lovecraft's 'Blind Idiot God' that is kept asleep by horrors playing horns at the center of the universe.
That's only because if it wakes up we cease to exist
yeah i was thinking a spawn of azothoth myself
Its not at the center of the universe. Our universe is its dream.
@@inquisitorgrynthebandito2736 That’s a myth. Lovecraft never wrote he dreams everything.
It's a ripoff of the "SCP foundation" wiki. Look up "SCP 682". I'm not a fan of it, to be honest. I'm not against references to other sci-fi being added into the 40k lore but this one is way too on-the-nose.
The Tiamet fleet implies a VERY unsettling reality of the Tyranids, either the Tiamet fleet is operating under a separate Tyranids hive mind, which implies there could be MORE! Or the hive mind is many more than just consumer Tyranids, and even the most terrifying Tyranids that have entered the galaxy are merely foot soldiers for something much more terrifying
You'll never know
I am running under the idea that its a forward command base for the hivemind able to process things faster than what was processing things before it was built.
@@The_Desert_Tigeri just assumed it operated as a tyranid version of the astronomicon, and maybe a relay station sharing knowledge
@@Vihara2 or calling for other Tyranids from galaxies further away because of the resistance in the milkyway
@@VadarVadar And or "hey, good food here, come gorge" - both terrifying possibilities.
696 sounds like it could be the result of a halo device. It was part of a rogue trader fleet and lord knows how much time passed for the ship inside the warp too
A stage 4 or 5 Halo device would be insane if that is actually a thing
@ianharrison5758 it would make sense given it's a damn near unkillable monstrosity and is tied to the group that typically comes across the devices and the warp and it's total lack of regard for the normal passage of time being involved as well as where the thing was found and the whole cannibalism thing
What if it’s the next stage of the halo, stage 6 or farther.
You should do a video on all the horrors and heretical tech locked up in the vaults under the Imperial Palace on Terra. When you have to have a dedicated team of Custodes who's job it is to guard those vaults you just know what's down there is insane.
And the fact that even those Custodes have to rotate out for the strain on their sanity….
And just when I start to feel some hope for the future when the Lion coming back, I can always count on Wes to remind me humanity is SCREWED
racist!
As you should
I mean, a Primarch could probably kill it or, should it prove to indeed be an extrusion of some larger extradimention entity, drove it from reality.
But the galaxy is vast, and we have a whome two Primarchs to work with right now.
I am so in awe of your ability lately to push out such a quantity of content with apparently zero drop in quality of production or of quality of concept.
You're absolutely unreal dude. Love it all. Keep smashing it!
Theres the "Tyrant Star". A darkness that sometimes envelopes a star and turns it black, flames and all. The system where it shows up starts to go mad. Civil unrest, strange geological and weather activity. A bad omen before tragedy strucks.
I think he covered that in another video.
@@keenanjohnson1296 its possible, but if you add all the tiktocks then hes covered a lot of subjects.
@@keenanjohnson1296 I know he hasnt covered Heart of Blood, that would be cool.
@@firmak2i dont have and will never download tik-tok.
@@jrr7031 you just missing out then. Including weses old videos
I have a theory about the harrowing. It seems, the creatures from that incident were originated from the Skein, a place that transcedent material realm as it become the barrier between real space and Warp.
"In the skein, Bielanna fought to control her feelings. The mon-keigh knew nothing of the universe’s secret workings, and for the briefest moment, she envied them their ignorance. Who but the Eldar could mourn lives that had not even been born? ‘I am Bielanna Faerelle, Farseer of Biel-Tan,’ she cried into the oceanic depths. ‘I am master of my soul and I bring only balance in my heart and thoughts.’ Everything in the skein rejected constancy. It sensed her lie. This was a place of dreams and nightmares, where all things were infinite. To give something a name marked it as not of the skein. And that was dangerous. It drew things that hid in the cracks between destinies. She saw them ooze from half-glimpsed shadows. That shadows could exist in this realm of absolute light was a measure of their threat. These were not the crystalline web-forms of warp spiders, nor yet the glimmer of future echoes moving from potential to reality. These were things twisted out of true by the tortured nature of space-time beyond the galaxy’s edge. They defied the tyranny of form, mere suggestions of grub-like null-spaces that existed only to consume. She moved onwards, far from their questing, sphincter-like mouths and blind, idiot hunger."- Forges of Mars
It imply that there is 'crack' within the Skein, thus, became a 'way in' for nameless eldritch horrors from beyond.
Here, a little insight about the Skein's structure.
"She found herself in a realm of light and movement. She could see the flicker of other eldar around her, like candles in twilight. A tracery of white, the infinity circuit, linked every other light together, stretching on without horizon into the impossible distance. Energy flowed along the maze, back and forth, surging and ebbing, binding everything together with its movement, linking the eldar with one another. And beyond. Beyond was something even more spectacular, defying rationalisation. Beyond were the constantly shattering panes of existence; the overlapping planes of destiny; the interwoven threads of fate. The present surrounded Thirianna, but just out of reach was the future, and in the darkness behind was the past. Every life, every thought, every movement, every motive, every emotion, weaving together in a dazzling tapestry of cause and effect. It branched out, splitting and dividing like cells, spawning entire new universes and possibilities with every passing moment. This was the skein, and it was beautiful. And too much. Too much to see, to comprehend, to understand." - Path of the Seer
I love Warhammer is bascially algamation of various genres existed in our world. These are few among dozens more.
So elders infinity circuit is just chilling in the skein with eldritch horrors?
@@angelgoo7772
No.
Infinity circuits are located in Craftworld.
I’m gonna have to get this one just because of this now.
@@afryanmahendra2055 but the realm of light and movement is where the beings exist, and also where she sees the traces of the infinity linking everything together, right? In ur insight about the skeins structure you literally quote the eldar seeing the flickers of other eldar and the tracery of the infinity circuit. Ik I’m prolly wrong but you just made it rlly confusing
@@angelgoo7772 The reason is simple. The character uses the infinity circuits to look upon the Skein. Because the Skein itself is the realm where fate is created and overlapping at the same time.
"As Bielanna’s senses flowed into the skein, she followed the threads of the warriors back into the past, seeing shadowy ghost-figures spinning and leaping around her. Their every movement was fluid, economical and deadly. The phantom shapes spun around her with ever greater fury as she looked down at the wraithbone runestones in the sand. The Scorpion and the Doom of Eldanesh. Both lying atop the Tears of Isha. The pattern was familiar to her, each one tracing the line of fate’s weave. Between them they represented skeins of futures that had already been realised, that were yet to be, and which might never be. They braided together in innumerable threads, and each one was - in turn - made up of a dizzying number of potential futures, making the task of interpretation and manipulation almost impossible." - Forges of Mars Omnibus
When the Death Watch, composed of the best from all chapters, is worried about a xenos it's a big deal.
The Deathwatch really are the most underrated formation in the Imperium. My 40K gaming group had this joke about how big a mistake it would be if a detachment of Grey Knights tried their whole "no witnesses, no exceptions" derp move on them because the Deathwatch are basically just an adventuring party of Astartes.
My headcanon for Tiamat is that not only is it a beachhead for the Hivemind itself in the form of that continent beast, but it's also where the Nids are trying a new technique far different than what they've done in the past.
In the past, they'd infiltrate with Genestealers and establish cults. But those tend to get noticed eventually.
The abduction of entire ships makes me think they're gonna try invading Imperial worlds not with Hive Fleets, but with Imperial ships.
Or maybe they'd use them for recon, with specialized Tyranid bioforms designed to USE the ships. Ones that, while they could pass initial examination, are Nid to the core.
Imagine you work on an orbital station, and a fleet of Rogue Trader ships arrive and dock. They have their papers though they're out of date, and everyone on board seems pale. They linger for a few months legitimately trading and enjoying liberty time on world before leaving.
A year later, a Hive fleet drops into the system and they know exactly where to hit... because the crew of the Rogue trader fleet were ALL nid bioforms in the shape of the former crews. Not genestealers: infiltrators and spies of the highest order.
And while they were in dock, they got new credentials - legally- for docking in other systems.
Systems like Terra.
Current airports have X-Rays you have to go through.
@@Integritys_Sum Imperial space ports probably lost that shit 40,000 years ago. Most of their stuff runs on clockwork cogs and gears, and some dude's brain hooked up to a car battery.
I like to think that both The Harrowing and The Pale Wasting were the same thing: civilization of vile aliens that does not conquer continents of planets, but dimensions. The Harrowing had a passage, that was sealed, but Imperium wasn't as lucky with the Pale Wasting and the passage is still there, which is why the marines are there to keep an eye on it.
and the Glass Throne holds this passage shut in a similar way to the Golden Throne sealing a Webway gate
I love how those Necrons in the Ghoul Stars are just like, straight up chillin'.
'The Imperium sending a giant, desperate crusade to stop an unknowable, impossible threat? Can't bother to get out of me tomb for that'
my theory is the Pale Wasting was indeed a Necron war, likely the Imperium's first encounter with the race. but it wasn't just Necrons, it involved the last remaining shard of the C'tan god "Llandu'gor The Flayer". the region may also have been the location where Flayer was obliterated by the Necrons. an event said to have permanently altered time and space. that would explain why the Ghoul Stars feel so weird to everyone, and why they have an inherent otherworldly presence capable of even driving a passing Hive Fleet insane
@@Benjamin1998 I don't think the pale wasting were necrons, but instead that the death of the flayed god had messed up reality so badly that it caused a different dimension to begin leaking into our reality. And that the pale wasting was a huge army of beings from said dimension.
I love Hive Fleet Tiamet. When 10th edition launches,I'm gonna start a Tyranid Army and paint them up as Hive Fleet Tiamet. I enjoy the mystery that surrounds them and what they're doing in the Tiamet system to it's various planets 👀
They are now near the eye of terror i think. I guess hive fleet kraken ate most if the system and they moved on and spread a GSC.
Making a hivemind vessel probably I mean tiamat was the first beast soooooo
@@bowieman4563 I do like to think they're terraforming them into Unicron style monsters
@@PelinalDidNothingWrong yeah bro it's just cool
I like the idea that it's growing a Hive Mind/Synapse Link for our galaxy. Like if each Galaxy they were eating had it's own hivemind, or primary link to the overmind.
Fun fact: "Xeno" comes from greek which means "stranger" or "foreigner". The use of the word "xeno" to refer to alien life forms is a relatively recent development that began in the late 20th century with Scottish biologist A.G. Cairns' book "Seven Clues to the Origin of Life." (1959) and most popularly with the movie Alien in (1979). Before that the word 'xeno' was mostly used in English to refer to anything odd or unnatural whether they be extra-terrestrial, supernatural or just foreign to one's experiences.
That was a fun fact
Do you have another account called Vlad the inhaler?
Or is that someone else?
Btw , cool fact
Everyone knows this though? What do people think XENOphobia means otherwise.
@@Zwijger most people don’t know the origin of most words in general but can get an idea of what the word means in context
My favorite is the Hive fleet that tried to invade the Ghoul Stars and failed and that’s pure Xeno not much chaos you’d think the space bugs would dominate that’s the scary part or that Malcarion wanted to conquer and go into it but the rest of the Imperium were too scared and wanted to back out so he did
The 40K version of SCPs are pretty fun to learn about. 😂
696, in my opinion is an organism created from the dark age. The familiar usage of specific animal parts known to human is a hint.
dude, wes, your coverage of the more horror centered parts of 40k are some of my favorite videos in recent memory. I've been a horror junkie for a long time and your narrations, and explanations are all fantastic. Please keep up your awesome work
Honestly it's always a pleasure and I ABSOLUTELY love your videos about the terrifying and ruthless things that exist in Warhammer 40k. The more of these types of videos, the better lol. Also I still enjoy the story you told of the "Creature" that a Deathwatch team captured on a planet that was loaded with Tyranids but for whatever reason, no device or being can ever detect whatever set trap off. But they don't want to open it either.
Maybe Hive Fleet Tiamat ate a Primarch and as a result is evolving vastly different.
Or the other Hive Fleets are the conquest and assimilate Fleets and Tiamat is designed to be a "brain node / command and control" of the Overmind to direct the other fleets
A Neuron, if you will.
in a gigantic brain(?)
All of these were awesome, I'm a bit obsessed with cosmic unknown horror. The Harrowing definitely gave me goosebumps, loved the artwork chosen. Keep up the amazing content!
696 obviously isn’t that bad considering that the shadow keepers are not guarding it.
@@somerandomschmuck2547thats unlikely cause 5 of those guys can give a primarch an ass kicking
I mean if the theory is right, it's the only example of it to exist in our universe and it's a pretty small fragment, considering when this happened it might just be that either the Custodians deemed the Death are capable enough to contain the fragment, why waste the resources needed to discretely move it to Terra? Or possibly that they don't even know about it, yes the Custodians maintain an information network outside to keep an eye on the wider imperium but they tend to focus on the Terra and more specifically the Palace right?
Oh man, the first one reminds me of that Tyranid short-story where they find an invaded ship whose librarian has been turned into a puppet connected to the residential Broodmind. Man, that sent shivers down my spine.
Am a proud Aussie but you have surpassed Majorkill as a preferred creator for me. Awesome stuff. Nobody will ever touch luetin but you are fkn amazing
Luetin is lore god
Luetin Is Emperor Level, But Wes with Time can grow, he is actually a Sly Marbo/Dante/Kaldor Draigo Level...
I've always found majorkill to be rude, crude, and obnoxious. I gave him up for dead a long time ago.
@@itsjustme8947 but sexy
Luetin is good but.. sometimes it just sounds like he drones on and on and on. Idk it's hard to listen to him sometimes. Baldemort, the remembrancer, and wolf lord roe is my go to lore channels. Majorkill is obvious for the lulz. A border prince for the win also
As an outsider to most of WarHammer 40k's lore. I would thing that the fleet mentioned at 10:55 may actually be trying to build a sort of beach head. Something that their described method of intelligence (the more there are, the better their tactics and organization.) It is my theory that they are trying to grow some sort of mass from which more can be birthed and permanently improved themselves due to pure proximity to such a massive mass of biomass.
I’m personally of the opinion that, in the coming edition, Tyranids will receive some treatment similar to what the Necrons got a couple years ago. Where their lore will be more fleshed out, and we may even hear the Hivemind itself speak.
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Nah, having the Hive Mind speak is dumb. Not all Godlike entities should speak. The moment they speak is the moment the mystery around them vanish and they'll just become some f*cking saturday cartoon villains.
Hopefully not, at least in regards to the Hive Mind. Having it speak would ruin a lot of the mystique of the Tyranids. I wouldn’t be opposed to having more disturbing cases like whatever Tiamat is up to though.
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Yeah, more of Hive Fleet Tiamet is a good thing.
My theory about 9-Kappa-Mu.
It was places by the Old Ones back during the War in Heaven and helped Mankind advance through the ages by slowly but surely feeding information to us.
You should never go fron First Fire to Fusion reactor, and so the artifact was designed to take it slow.
The reason it does not have any signal nowadays is because it stopped broadcasting when Humans learned FTL travel.
Yeah but the old ones died 65 millions of years ago so that would mean they knew mankind's existence before it evolved
Thank you very much for those links to other parts of this trilogy. Thats caring about your followers We value that. Youre a descent creator.
I don't remember what it's called, but there's a test subject locked up in the main death watch research facility that's room was completely empty. And no type of scanning or alarm would pick up it's existence. Yet the chamber reads "occupied" and what ever it is has killed people entering it's room. So it's a completely invisible horror that is just left in a empty room where no one goes in or interacts with it.
Theory: 9-Kappa-Mu could be the Ork Attack Moon, that was teleported infront of Holy Terra during the War of the Beast.
it's been there since before the horus heresy. so it's not that... also they aren't able to destroy it.
Really like this spooky videos you cover from 40k!
My favourit so far is "The Disappearance Of Fornax Aleph", it's just so ominous and unexplainable, I really like it~
And what soundtrack did you use during Hive Fleet Tiamat? I heard it in your other spooky videos and I really like it and would like to hear more of it!
Keep up the good work and I am looking forward to see and hear more from you : D
A fellow MtG lore fan, I see? Ugin's explanation to Jace of how the Eldrazi worked during Battle for Zendikar was one of the coolest moments in MtG...Honestly, that story block was really, really good.
I am in fact also a secret magic nerd 😅
@@weshammer You know, I was actually just thinking about this analogy earlier today for reasons I can't even remember. And then it was brought up here, and I was like, "Hey, that sounds suspiciously familiar!"
Question. Who's the most justifiable enemy/villain/monster in the whole Warhammer universe
Now that is what I call a genuine question for 40k💯
It's a tossup between Orkz and The Big E
Orkz
Humanity.
Trazyn the Infinite
I love this video Wes! If there is more obscure and scary W40k facts, then a series about this would be epic. Keep up the good work man!
Caught my grandson listening to you videos....i played back in 1 through 4 edition....thank you for bridging the gap for us ... keep them coming
Just a note, there are some things in the warp that have no chaos god influence. Things from before the dark gods came into existence or manifested at least. There are also some theories that the chaos gods are actually just aspects of a much greater whole i.e the dark god of chaos undivided. So three possibilities;
1) As suggested it is a form of interdimensional entity.
2) It is a entity of a greater whole of chaos, thus looking different.
3) It is a "thing" from the warp that simply exists on its own.
Ok, now that is very cool how they actually put real world conspiracies into the lore. 9-KAPPA-MU = Black knight satellite but on a 40k scale. Its supposed to be some ancient "satellite" that's been in earths orbit for hundreds of years, likely just random crap in our orbit or the standard person sees something weird in the water and assumes sea monster. That said its still pretty cool how they incorporated it into the 40k universe.
As a newcommer to the community, I love your videos highlighting these lesser know aspects of the Warhammer universe. Keep up the awesome and interesting videos!
I love these stories! You have to do Collab with Baldemort! He's the king of dramatized 40k lore! I think you 2 would be a great match!
I love this lesser know creepy and mysterious 40k lore! Especially the cosmic horror stuff! Keep up the good work and keep it coming! 👍
40KRP is such a treasure trove for deep lore.
It really is! I'm kind of shocked that more people haven't covered the stuff from it. I guess the obscure stuff doesn't get a ton of views, but it's really fun to read about!
Not to mention just *how much* of it there is. Between two whole editions of Dark Heresy, plus Rogue Trader, Deathwatch, Black Crusade and Only War there must be at least fifty books to draw pretty consistently well-written lore and detail from.
Just want to say I love your videos, always quality, in depth, interesting, and engaging. Appreciate the hours and hours of entertainment
Thanks again for another awesome vid!!
Have you thought about doing videos for each chaos God's realm?? Like a long format for each or a very long video of all. Seeing nurgle's garden would be awesome.
I Loved all your shorts on the realms of Slaanesh. It's such an awesome subject that I think It deserves its own long format video.
You know of the harrowing? That is heresy! I am calling the Inquisitor.
These are my favorite types of videos you make. I love hearing about the lesser known aspects of the lore, especially horror mysteries. Please make more
9:27 The Harrowers was also the name of the Drukhari that raided Antimon.
You don't know how much your videos make me happy you are best TH-camrs ever
Videos like these envelop me with a fascination for the Warhammer universe, like no other.
The quality of the video just adds even more to it and I want to deepen my knowledge of the Franchise!
Thank you for these amazing videos!
So many fascinating creepy stories weaved into the story of 40k. Peaks my interest quite a bit. Keep em coming Wes
Ah, the Harrowing... The third Calixis-associated mystery you have brought up recently. Though I have arrived late for this one, I must say that it is always delightful to see the eldritch things of those cursed stars being discussed. I hope you had fun reading up on the topic, even if it is one with scant information regarding it available, even if one were to obsessively sift through the source material numerous times looking for cross-references as I have.
I love the ghoul stars and all the lovecraftian horror within ! More of this if you can please. 👍
I think the actual horror stories are much better than just this list
yea it's kinda interesting, but the story videos really get me hooked
05:13 Are you sure about that?
Those jaws, teeth, and other amalgamated body parts are screaming foul warp shenanigans to me, LoL. 😮
Your creepy pasta style stories are great , thank you. Specially like “the watcher in the rain” and “the way out” and the video right before this one. They really do keep me entertained
Wes you will almost singlehandedly will be the reason why I fully dive into 40k
Wes I gotta thank you, I love 40k and it's one of those passions you want to share. While my wife doesn't have an interest in it you help me show her a thing or two that makes her laugh
More cosmic horror please
Ironically, our best chance to have most of these mysteries answered is for someone from games workshop to accidentally leak them on war thunder forums
fitting you have a warthunder ad because right before this video I had a passing thought that it'd be cool if there was a game about mechanized combat in warhammer, either fantasy or 40k
Can you make a video on Magos Biologis / Adeptus Biologos? I couldn't find any video in youtube explaining them.
I LOVED these videos you did on the unsolved mysteries in the lore. I have SO MUCH Warhammer 40k homework to do now! 😄
What about that tyrannid the Black Templars and Mechanicus found that humans can’t even perceive?
Mysteries are my favorite part of 40k ngl
Subject 696 sounds like the most advanced halo device i've heard
advanced so much that itself evolved into something else
More obscure 40k lore and the only channel to learn about it. Keep up the good work, Wes!
Can Wes talk about the Rak’Gol?
My theory for the ghoul stars is that during the reign of the necrontyrs, they experimented with some of their ridiculously powerful really breaking tech in that region (the stuff that's either been destroyed or locked away at this point), and ended up opening a rift to a different dimension or plane of existence THAT IS NOT THE WARP, but is home to eldritch entities beyond comprehension even compared to the chaos gods. Like lovecraftian outer gods, you could say.
Like, how did the Flayer virus happen, and why is it concentrated on that region? The necrons have been afraid of that place for a while. It makes sense that they know they fucked up there.
Out of most of the 40k channels. This channel really is out the box and i love it. Ghoul stars? I need to know more!!
They could use 696 as a bargain chip with Trazyn
This was awesome. Had never heard of the 9-Kappa-Mu artifact.
And agreed, some of the best "quiet" parts of the WH4K lore goes into cosmic horror territory.
WH40K, not WH4K
I think Tiamet is building like a big Antenna for the Hive Mind and when the Tyranids get to close to winning the Empiere destroys it and sudenly all the Hive Fleets run Amock killing each other nerving the Tyranids to a good Extend.
Yaaaay more mysteries! Thank you!
11:42 heh, It's called Hive Fleet Tiamet, and in Mesopotamian mythology, Tiamat is the mother of monsters!
I could listen to these grimdark videos all day long. Keep ‘me coming!
I was just writing and got this notification. Now my writing will have some spooky ass inspiration
May the emperor's hand guide your pen brother.
It is pretty mind bugling like if there is another dimension then is there chaos in it? Is it more powerful than Chaos which literally inhabit hell. And whether or not the chaos god knew about the existence of such dimension
Well of eternity other end
My biggest unsolved mystery would be what the hell the Lamenters did to deserve their fate.
I must say im surprised.
Instead of a lore video you made
A "legends&mysteries" video.,
Wich is a pleasant surprise.
Good job Wes 🎉🎉🎉.
More creatures, love learning about them.
696 could be an ancient human that has lived millennia using a halo from the last video
I like Hive Fleet Tiamat. They just want to farm their own biomass and mind their own business.
Making a beast
THIS! I LOVE THIS! Please, MORE strange/mysterious/horrifying Xenos and other entities!
Fantastic video again Wes! Great work!
Keep up your vidoes dude you rock
696 as a small piece of something in another dimension is also the description of the Eldrazi in Magic the gathering universe. Very H.P. Lovecraft
Hello there brother just came here to tell you, you are doing emperors work informing us of wh40k knowledge, Thank you!
Been brainstorming a homebrew chapter for a while based on the unknowable and eldricht inter-dimensional threats from around the galaxy and beyond, any idea if such a chapter exists already? Love the videos they’re super fun and inspiring :)
MORE!! Primarch series too, my favorite heresy.
I love that Wes Use shirts fitting to the Theme of his videos, He always uses that Octopus Shirt for Monster Videos of WH40K XD.
Oh wow. Thank you for the Ghoul Stars lore!
Didn't even know I needed it
These mysteries are great. WH40K lore is the best!
I think Tiamat is drying to grow a proto-hivemind? Or something like that. Instead of having normal powerful creatures that act as conduits for the hive mind, they want to make this big beacon? Maybe it IS the hivemind. The tyranids lost their other fronts in other galaxies, and retreated here?
I bet the hive fleet Tiamat growths are like brain cells for the hive mind.
Love these videos about warhammer horror
10:47 hive fleet tiamet : it’s farm time 🐄
Empire of men: sus baka
Late to the party... But as a chick with no general interest in 40k... I love your vids. Seriously love you and all this wild life 😊
Really glad you like them 🙂
Wooooo new video!