What I love about your content is I'm still able to somewhat keep up with the lore because I don't read all that well. Meaning I can't sit still to read 😂
The Emperor's Map. Imagine traveling to Chernobyl, and in an abandoned room in a forgotten dilapadated house; finding a box containing pictures, floorplans, etc, of your parents house as it looked when you were a child.
More than just that, but a perfect image of how your room looked, how your toys were set up, your clothes, pictures, even your parents room and attic space. Everything. Even details you never knew were there.
The Emperor’s map fascinates me the most, I think it was an artifact from the golden age. I think the planet was abandoned by its settlers and left that map behind, there’s a reason the emperor didn’t show himself during the golden age or age of strife. Perhaps there’s more relics or artifacts from the golden age still floating out there somewhere.
@@NattyIce553 it’s meant to be an analogy where a place that shouldn’t even know of your existence or home has not only a mapped out layout of your old home from when you were young but every detail is jotted down, from the wall paper to the toys and games. It’s scary because, for all intents and purposes, this place shouldn’t know or even have something like this…
Garviel Loken's interactions with Mercedes are something I want more of. It's always interesting to see normal humans interact with Astartes both on and off the battlefield
Agreed, personally my favorite one of Lokens interactions with Karkasy. Even normal humans found him to be an arrogant pain in the ass at times, but Loken not only tolerated but tried to protect him while enabling what could have been seen as sedition. The bloody poet convinced the loyalty and duty first astartes to do the morally right thing. Hell, it was the human presence which made Loken such a good character for those books.
love the idea of being the only dude who remembers the way terra used to be like 40,000 years later and he just stumbles across a map of it millions or billions of lightyears away and he just thinks to himself " How the fu... did i do this? who else could? why? wtff???"
@@call_me_kay He said both: love the idea of being the only dude who remembers the way terra used to be like 40,000 years later and he just stumbles across a map of it millions or billions of lightyears away and he just thinks to himself " How the fu... did i do this? who else could? why? wtff???" He mentions 40,000 years in the future AND lightyears away.
One can imagine the Murder Room starting off as some kind of urban legend doing the rounds in the Imperium at large and then it actually starts to manifest in The Warp and it becomes a real thing.
Well I mean every thought and feeling manifests in the warp. Every thought, every fantasy every, every guilty or irrational thought, every good or bad dream. Becomes real in the immaterial, but they don’t really take shape because it’s nearly an atom in the scale of the warp. So yeah it’s not a big stretch that an idea so powerful would manifest especially after the link between reality and the warp is so thin and damaged that something like that can happen, especially when humanity has grown to such a scale an urban legend that could’ve spread over a million worlds is sure to have a the power to actually become something in the warp and potentially bleed into real space.
It parallels a very real dark web urban legend, about "red rooms" that show case live snuff events. I don't believe a snuff film industry has ever been shown to exist in robust numbers tho. I'm sure there's one or two floating around.
That map is definitely terrifying. It plays off the idea that aliens assisted humanity in building and influencing our world so nicely, and the possibility of them keeping an extremely up to date record of Earth from thousands of years ago is scary. Could mean they were simply watching us, or it could mean they had ideas for conquest in mind.
Personally I think it should be something other than the normal Chaos forces. Something new, something mysterious and frightening that needs new ways to combat it, or understand it.
@@Hawkens4k the beauty of chaos is the nature of nightmare fuel that they can produce. If it is nightmare fuel or comes from your nightmares, it can be from chaos. I am pretty one of creatures from my nightmares can be potential Tyrannid or Chaos.
I have theory : The red room is actually Khorne's bathroom, everyone who go inside witness sheer horror of naked Khorne showering in the blood of many, and if it's true it would explain why Khorne need so many blood everyday, because he need it to take a bath
Khorne singing “let the bodies hit the floor” off-key to himself in the shower. Khorne: “LET THE BODIES HIT FLOOOO” - Stops singing as he realizes that he has an audience - “Oh Me Damnit how in the Hell do you all keep getting in here!!!”
Emperor's Map: Imagine finding chambers a mile beneath the pyramids that precisely detailed the dark side of the moon. No other artifacts, ornamentation or script. Just a map. Red Rum: That's definitely a shining/twin peaks reference. Necromunda Shadow Gang: Gene stealer cult that were the genesis of a dropped plot point.
The Emperor is not the only one who remembers Earth as it used to be. There's who knows how many ancient human perpetuals still out in the galaxy. The red room is from _The Amityville Horror._ Like one to one.
I really enjoyed The Emperor's map because it's almost as if the Emperor feels guilt by seeing the map of old Earth and realized he isn't as all knowing as he believed himself to be. He once lived in that same place and due to his actions, plunged the planet and galaxy into war.
My personal head canon is that this planet IS Earth! Terra and our Earth are in drasticly diffenet spots in this galaxy. And changing a planet in the center of the galaxy to look like the cradle of your race, sounds like something you do when you have STCs and the whole shabang.
@derkrischa3720 honesty, my headcannon is that the real earth is hidden, and if anyone does discover the true birth place of man, they hide it, yes that included the tyranids, the orks, the daemons and the eldar, none know why they just do, something about the orginal earth just feels both right and very very wrong, like if they ill speak of it, it will find them and take them, if their human, they wont ever leave, but if their xeno? Mother earth doesnt like them
@derkrischa3720 Yo that's such a good theory. Reminds me of a fantasy book, though I don't want to name the book as that would be a spoiler, but it fits super well. Creates an entirely different question though: Why does the Emperor not know this?
I'd argue one of the scariest mysteries in 40k is the Dark Cells of Terra. Put it like this; The Shadowkeeper Custodian Shield Host guard it with their lives. Not to keep people out,that's a secondary purpose but their main purpose is to keep the things in there locked away. Imagine all the artefacts and entities locked in the cells,where their escape could have devastating effects on the galaxy and well...some did after The Great Rift opened
All manner of terrible things are kept in there, like Harvey Weinstein, Lizzo, OneMindSyndicate, Matt Ward, She-Hulk; to say nothing of the Emperor's 30 millennia old porn collection, the real, imprisoned Omnissiah and Alpharius and Omegon's triplet brother Epsilonius! Should any of those escape the Imperium, and even the Empyrean, would be doomed; on a positive note though, it would probably scare the Tyranids away!! 🤯😂
11th edition. Valdor returns to Terra after the Tyranids have devastated the Sol System. Approaches a cell under the palace. (Valdor) "SCP-682, I will grant your sanctioned revenge on the Foundation on one condition. You must destroy the Tyrannid hive queen." (SCP-682.) "Hold my beer"
The map has a lot of potential for an origin story, depending on the details the emperor could even know the aproximate date based in man made changes to geography.
@@danielgayosanchez or maybe he knew, like a doomsday military vault... full of dormant men of iron and the map is part of their mission, like a dead man switch wich never triggered.
Funny enough before this vide3o me and a Buddy were doing a homebrew rp where we had trazyn give a tour to "reluctant" guests of several inquisitors and there retinue along his musuem, Sure he shows them the Imperium wing. But theres something even older. As he would lead the party past to a wing kept clean by scarabs, Flags and banners of nations long gone, tools and weapons of war on display. And front and Center of it all was a Map of Terra, But Terra of today. Prize collection of Relics of earth before, From wildlife to People. It would be "The Origins of Mankind." Exibit. Of course there was the "STC" Library where we will have to make the players roll to keep there tech priest companions tied like a hog from going buck wild. Lmao
some random dude: "If I could feel fear, I would feel it then." some random aeldari otaku in his mancave many years ago: "Aw, neat, my map of Earth is finally complete! Man, humans sure are amazing!"
@@pleaseenteranamelol711 Depends on the "version" of the SCPver. Some SCPs such as the Scarlet King and "The Worm" from Project Palisade would eat the Necrons, Imperium, Tyranids, Eldar, Chaos Gods and C'tan all at once and think it was a very light snack. 😨 Other versions don't have much less powerful things running around in them and would fit better. sm
And don’t even get me started on versions where mekhane and the other god with a name too complicated to pronounce with their original power exists. Mekhane got a Lore nerf so hard that before it he could beat the Scarlet king, the hanged king, and pretty much anything. He was Lore-wise the co-creator of the entire MULTIVERSE. The only other god to compete was the god of the unpronouncable name and flesh
You are entering the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location. The kind of place where there might be a monster, or some kind of weird mirror. These are just examples; it could also be something much better. Prepare to enter: The Scary Door.
Tsara'noga, a Dyson Sphere, Adept Corteswain and the Illogical Labyrinth. No one ever talks about these things, but they are some of the most interesting and horrifying scraps of C'tan lore, because they describe the remaining unsundered one.
My money on who brought the map over was likely a Perpetual, one of the only other immortals other than the Emperor who could remember when Terra was a more beautiful world. Maybe thats why the Emperor was in awe. He had found evidence of one of his comrades who had long forsaken him and his dream, and that perhaps somewhere they were still out there
@@NomadUrpagi I mean sort of but also no. It's clearly inspired by it but there are also a lot of differences. The people in shadow over innsmouth started associating with fish people when their town fell on hard times, and effectively made a deal with them. They were breeding with fish people, and their offspring were slowly becoming more fish like, and became increasingly hostile to outsiders. Here it's mostly psychological changes, and I doubt they have the ability to swim that deep, or breathe under water. It's also unknown if the sleeping gods they worship are evil or hostile in this case. I also don't think they made a deal with evil fish people, since in this case they are getting the memories of a lost civilization.
Ahh hearing stories about mersadie olinton just makes me sad. I hated reading about when loken finally was allowed to see her in that prison and they had ripped her memory coils out. It was heartbreaking. It really tugged at me when loken wanted to get her out of there so badly but she just told him no. That whole portion of the story is so sad
Yeah, I agree, I loved all of the remembrance or characters in those first three books. They were so well written. f you haven't read the siege of Tera yet, she plays a pretty pivotal role in... I think either book one or book two. Wasn't super happy with the ending personally, but it was great seeing her again
@WesHammer I have heard she was in it. I was trying to get in the rest of the horus heresy in full order before siege of Terra but it is absolutely killing me not to read those books. Ya know, I think people sometimes forgot about mersadie olinton because euphrati keeler and kyril sinderman were so important, especially for guys like garro and sigismond. But for loken it always felt more like it was about mersadie and kyril. I was always super bummed that Ignace karkasy died because in those first few books, he was incredible. He was my favorite of the remembrancers on that ship. I think it was a great choice to make the remembrencers such an important group of people
the map would be my fav out of them. reading the book and hearing this stoic marine. this leader of super humans tell the tale of finding something so odd and bizzare. that it did stick with him and send fear and shivers throughout if he could feel it. a stand out momment in a great book
The thought of the Emperor of mankind being afraid of something sends shivers through my body Like THE master of Mankind, the strongest human to ever live who fought gods being scared of something that does something to me i cannot describe
I love how sometimes, something as small as a paragraph in a book, briefly mentioning some event, can leave a reader's mind bewildered as the written word paints an incomplete painting for them to fill out themselves. That is why I consider writing an art from. Something as simple as finding a map of an ancient time long passed on an alien world leaves so many horrifying questions. These kinds of things are why I love series like Warhammer 40k and why I wanted so desperate to write my own series... which is turning out to be both much harder than I thought and way more fun that I expected it to be. Wes, thank you sir for making videos like this. Your lore videos are one of my favorite things to watch.
Really glad you enjoyed them! And I absolutely agree with your take here. I love the little bits of flavor text that are not fully explained so they let us as the audience use our imagination to fill in the blanks :)
Your comment actually got me thinking. I've always been a "you don't need to be a cook to know the food is bad" kinda guy. Lately, I've realized how difficult any sort of creative art is, even if it's not my type. You don't realize this unless you actually sit down and start creating your dream project. It's easy to criticize, very difficult to create.
I've never been the type to criticize, I've always tried to find something positive to say cause I don't wanna upset no one. mostly because I wanna encourage others to keep trying.
Aware that there's a limited amount of mysteries within 40k - but this little run of videos has been SO interesting! I think its been my favourite deep dive thus far (with the exception of your Mechanicum one, which was *chef's kiss* and not just because Im an Admech fanboy) Thanks for the vids Wes, hope you're doing great, brother!
Wes, just want to say thank you for always making my mornings with your awesome warhammer videos! You’re up there with some of the best narration channels on TH-cam!
I love how most of these mysteries come from the various tabletop RPG's like Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Deathwatch, though the lore pieces in those games isn't considered canon to a lot of the fanbase even though they are canon; That might explain why people don't really know about them, since some people might view them as being non-canonical due to being part of 3rd-party RPG's and therefore not worth the time to read up about them.
0:44 I know the word "chilling" does by definition mean something that makes you shiver in fear (or actual cold temp) but I cannot hear that word without hearing john cena saying "bing qilling"
The murder Room reminds me of the flayed one pocket Dimension, the descriptions are very similar and given that the flayer curse comes from the wound in real space that was created by the death of Landugor, flayed one equivalents should exist for other species as well.
Ah, the Murder Room... One of Calixis Sector's many oddities. Like many of that cursed place's mysteries, it was intentionally left vague by the writers, so that game masters could easily apply their own takes on the story without contradicting source materials.
Your upload schedule is hectic my man. We got the admec deep dive and now this within days of each other. Awesome stuff, you're working really hard. I really like your 40k mystery videos too so this is a nice treat.
WesHammer, because you recently posted this video I really hope you see my comment. I also hope you realize how much your videos mean to me, and that you're the first warhammer youtuber I started watching. I look forward to every time you post videos, because then I can sit down and chill with a warm cup of hot chocolate, whilst learning about the warhammer universe
Me hearing West talking about the Red Room: a spooky and scary place. Khorne hearing West talking about the Red Room: Darn it, why do these mortals keep slipping into my private study. Must be the work of that twitching sack of tentacles Tzeech.
I love that this has become a series. xD I know I said previously I don't like mysteries - but I do! I just like the aspect that we may someday understand them. it's that prospect that things may change from study that entices me to mysteries!
*The EMPEROR'S* Map has got to be the one that intrigues me the most. That it left The Master of Mankind⁽ᵇᵉˡᵒᵛᵉᵈ ᵇʸ ᵃˡˡ⁾, Himself, speechless.... that has awesome and ominous inferences, no doubt.
As a newer fan of Warhammer, I love your videos. Keep the lore coming please. It's terrifying that the red room you step into could've been the crime scene of anyone that went through the door before you. It'd explain why the door can appear anywhere. Reminds me of the backrooms if the liminal rooms are replaced with liminal crime scenes.
For anyone wondering where Wes's videos fit in their chronological ordering... Look at the face hes making on the thumbnail. The face tells you where they fit into the subseries... I was looking for 40k horrifying mysteries part 1 for almost an hour before I realized this. One of the many reasons that WesHammer is one of the best Warhammer 40k lore and discussion channels on all of TH-cam.
the colony of rain sounds llike they got a visit from whatever the Watcher in the Rain was or a close relation. the Murder room is TERRIFYING and needs an audio story. the emperors map is frankly easily explained: either ancient humans left it behind like a beloved old well MAP or a Xeno just checking out the neighbourhood did an intense study, put it in a vault and then shit happened. the only strange thing about it is how well protected it is and its being the ONLY thing on the entire planet. makes you wonder what happened to it?
In a universe with things as terrifying as the ghoul stars or the various unknown xenos, the idea of an entire species of Cthulhu is bad but not so bad. The are is always something worse out there...
The map one is wild. There’s so many possible ideas of where it could have came from. Totally seems like something Tzeentch would do to screw with The Emperor directly, yet doesn’t really give off Tzeentchian vibes. Which is an even more unsettling thought.
This is awesome. Would love more content though from the normal person's perspective, that would show horror they feel in face of everything or joy and awe they feel seeing space marines
I see a Weshammer video, I watch and I like; simple as Also I'm almost out of videos now. Is there a part 2 to the most powerful factions in Warhammer? I'm having a hard time finding it
Hey Wes, could you do a video on the top 5 novels for beginners to the 40k novels? Several months back is when I really started to get into 40k (had previously been into End Times) through games like Darktide and Inquisition, and even more through your videos, and I just would like to have an easy list of books that set up back story for the reader, or at the least, will make things easier to understand for a newbie. Funnily enough, I'm currently listening to an audio book of Horus Rising, and while I enjoy it, and can even understand things thanks to your lore videos, I feel like there might be better books to ease myself into the franchise. Thank you regardless for your videos!
As terrifying as the idea as the Emperor’s map is…I can’t help but also feel that the emperor was kind of happy about it too. To see earth in its prime again. But yeah whatever made that map, I hope they had no ill intent.
LOVE your 40k Mysteries ep its so alluring. But I also do enjoy your other eps as well. I just dont know anyone that talks about the mysteries of 40k as much as you do. Edit. I have to say each story was fascinating but I feel like the one that made me Re-listen was The emperor's map. Just like Loken something is not right and to see a map of the earth once was made chill even me. and Rain and murder room
Hey Wes, got a few questions for ya: - Say GW gave you the chance and honor of writing out what one of the Lost Primarchs was (personality, lifestyle, creed, tactics, legion name, etc) and what happened to that Primarch, would you do it and what would he be if you wrote & designed him? - Have you looked into the User made Factions? Be interesting to know what your favorites are. - From your previous Unsolved Mysteries video, whats the name of the song you used for the Halo Devices segment?
God... Wes, youre the best, bro. I fucking LOVE these horror vids. Ive been listening to your channel all day, some videos multiple times over because i enjoy them so much. Thank you for all you do for us. Remember, tho im just some random dude in Arizona, youre solely responsible for my sudden interest in Warhammer.
Weshammer"never go in the red room"me"why...what is in there"? Wes"well...some say people will go insane if you go inside....others say there is is a dark entity who will rip your soul out of your body..and some say there may be horrible horrors beyond your imagination and..hay what are you doing..stop"!(I look in there) me"errrr...Wes....its just a room full of chairs....lots and lots of chairs..as far as the eye can see" Wes"....oh" me".....yeahhh...bit of a let down really huh"(hay this may be grim dark but ya still got to have a laugh)
The Emperor's map sticks with me. There are days when I look out over the vast forests and shorelines of my hometown, and picutring all of it bulldozed and replaced with endless slums and factories. I look into the horrible future and dread the probability of that image. How I feel dread, the Emperor must feel the same but in melancholy, for he would see the reverse: the purity and potential of Mother Earth lost forever in exhanged for the crushing brutality of Holy Terra.
For some reason, the story of the silent ones makes me think of what would have happened to the planet from the Subnautica games if it were in the warhammer universe instead. Really loving these videos, Wes, and I actually just got one of those shirts in on Friday, the Cybergeshia one, that you're wearing in this episode.
Ah good. If the horrors of any imaginable kinds weren't sufficient into the grim darkness of the far future, this setting has to deal with SCP-like entities and phenomenons too
the idea of the foundling worlds being a protected area of space is what set me onto the idea that the Tau are a protected group of necrontyr given directed evolution and advancement by whatever protected them from the imperium by warp storms.
When I was running a Dark Heresy campaign I used the Murder Room as a scenario. The acolytes were ordered to investigate a series of random murders committed by people who had no history of doing anything heretical or violent. They slowly uncovered the truth, that there was a door that led to a place outside of time, a red room of murder, that any who crossed the threshold would be forever lost, and that whatever emerged wasn't the person anymore but an instrument of slaughter. They discovered the current killer and took him out rather easily since he was just a scribe... but doing so only led to more questions. The acolytes eventually found the way to stop the carnage; they had to discover who had been replaced most recently and shove them back through the door, *alive,* before they could kill even one victim. Doing so would cause the room to vanish, though it would always return at some point in a few centuries. They found out it was a local Arbites captain, and after a tough fight the big brawny ex-guardsman acolyte managed to knock him through the door... but not before getting a good look inside. Unfortunately the player of the guardsman had to leave the campaign a few weeks later and I never got to follow up on it, but I thought about having him return to the game as an NPC who was now possessed by whatever inhabits the room.
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So no video about the Lion at all? Sadge.
what is the source of the Murder Room story? i wanna read listen to it.
What I love about your content is I'm still able to somewhat keep up with the lore because I don't read all that well. Meaning I can't sit still to read 😂
The Emperor's Map.
Imagine traveling to Chernobyl, and in an abandoned room in a forgotten dilapadated house; finding a box containing pictures, floorplans, etc, of your parents house as it looked when you were a child.
More than just that, but a perfect image of how your room looked, how your toys were set up, your clothes, pictures, even your parents room and attic space. Everything. Even details you never knew were there.
The Emperor’s map fascinates me the most, I think it was an artifact from the golden age. I think the planet was abandoned by its settlers and left that map behind, there’s a reason the emperor didn’t show himself during the golden age or age of strife. Perhaps there’s more relics or artifacts from the golden age still floating out there somewhere.
Can you explain this? Can’t find anything that sounds like what u guys are talking about?
@@NattyIce553 it’s meant to be an analogy where a place that shouldn’t even know of your existence or home has not only a mapped out layout of your old home from when you were young but every detail is jotted down, from the wall paper to the toys and games. It’s scary because, for all intents and purposes, this place shouldn’t know or even have something like this…
Bruh you GET it. That story chilled me to my core.
Garviel Loken's interactions with Mercedes are something I want more of. It's always interesting to see normal humans interact with Astartes both on and off the battlefield
Agreed, personally my favorite one of Lokens interactions with Karkasy. Even normal humans found him to be an arrogant pain in the ass at times, but Loken not only tolerated but tried to protect him while enabling what could have been seen as sedition. The bloody poet convinced the loyalty and duty first astartes to do the morally right thing. Hell, it was the human presence which made Loken such a good character for those books.
I never told her about that time I punched Lucius in the face.
True
Mersadie.
Her ending was painful
love the idea of being the only dude who remembers the way terra used to be like 40,000 years later and he just stumbles across a map of it millions or billions of lightyears away and he just thinks to himself " How the fu... did i do this? who else could? why? wtff???"
I read that in Big Ds voice.
Lightyears away not later... Lightyear is a unit of distance not time...
@@call_me_kay
He said both:
love the idea of being the only dude who remembers the way terra used to be like 40,000 years later and he just stumbles across a map of it millions or billions of lightyears away and he just thinks to himself " How the fu... did i do this? who else could? why? wtff???"
He mentions 40,000 years in the future AND lightyears away.
@@Ironknuckle100 This is still incorrect. The Milky Way galaxy is only 105,700 light years in diameter.
@@NOOBLETK I didn't know that. However, did the Emperor travel there in a straight line? Did his life go straight from point a to point b?
One can imagine the Murder Room starting off as some kind of urban legend doing the rounds in the Imperium at large and then it actually starts to manifest in The Warp and it becomes a real thing.
I know him it's the primarch [REDACTED INFORMATION] and the chaos god of chaos and cannibalism [MÆł·ĮĈƏ]
A bit like in the Discworld novels where something, like a dragon, can only be real if enough people believe it is.
Well I mean every thought and feeling manifests in the warp. Every thought, every fantasy every, every guilty or irrational thought, every good or bad dream. Becomes real in the immaterial, but they don’t really take shape because it’s nearly an atom in the scale of the warp. So yeah it’s not a big stretch that an idea so powerful would manifest especially after the link between reality and the warp is so thin and damaged that something like that can happen, especially when humanity has grown to such a scale an urban legend that could’ve spread over a million worlds is sure to have a the power to actually become something in the warp and potentially bleed into real space.
@@MrTuubster I wouldn't be supprised if they took some inspiration from the Discworld, when inventing the Warp as more than a plot device
It parallels a very real dark web urban legend, about "red rooms" that show case live snuff events. I don't believe a snuff film industry has ever been shown to exist in robust numbers tho. I'm sure there's one or two floating around.
That map is definitely terrifying. It plays off the idea that aliens assisted humanity in building and influencing our world so nicely, and the possibility of them keeping an extremely up to date record of Earth from thousands of years ago is scary. Could mean they were simply watching us, or it could mean they had ideas for conquest in mind.
or humans who missed home and where trapped in old knight
@@viktorgabriel2554 Were* Night*
@@hieioni3354The librarian hard at work...
@@Integritys_Sum Not librarian, ORDO GRAMMATICUS to you, lowly plebeian!
Rogue traders: wow what a beautiful galaxy
Chaos: I took that personally
Personally I think it should be something other than the normal Chaos forces. Something new, something mysterious and frightening that needs new ways to combat it, or understand it.
@@Grabthar191 you would be surprised how big chaos is and how many creatures call it their home
Xenos: Let Me introduce myself ;)
@@Grabthar191
I mean it doesn't have too but it'll inspire chaos to be scary as possible
@@Hawkens4k the beauty of chaos is the nature of nightmare fuel that they can produce. If it is nightmare fuel or comes from your nightmares, it can be from chaos. I am pretty one of creatures from my nightmares can be potential Tyrannid or Chaos.
I have theory :
The red room is actually Khorne's bathroom, everyone who go inside witness sheer horror of naked Khorne showering in the blood of many, and if it's true it would explain why Khorne need so many blood everyday, because he need it to take a bath
Maybe that's why Khorne is so angry all the time: he's just frustrated that people somehow keep walking into his bathroom
@@maxthepaladin2147"This is the last time I ask Tzeentch to recommend a plumber"
Omg imagine a Khorne floater?....🤢🤮
Khorne's shampoo and conditioner probably gives a whole new meaning to "Head and Shoulders"...
Khorne singing “let the bodies hit the floor” off-key to himself in the shower.
Khorne: “LET THE BODIES HIT FLOOOO” - Stops singing as he realizes that he has an audience - “Oh Me Damnit how in the Hell do you all keep getting in here!!!”
Emperor's Map: Imagine finding chambers a mile beneath the pyramids that precisely detailed the dark side of the moon. No other artifacts, ornamentation or script. Just a map.
Red Rum: That's definitely a shining/twin peaks reference.
Necromunda Shadow Gang: Gene stealer cult that were the genesis of a dropped plot point.
The Delaque also give strong Lovecraft's Deep Ones vibes :)
The Emperor is not the only one who remembers Earth as it used to be. There's who knows how many ancient human perpetuals still out in the galaxy.
The red room is from _The Amityville Horror._ Like one to one.
@@doomgoon8933 Very _Shadow over Innsmouth,_ yeah.
@@bad-people6510 Exactly, very good book.
I really enjoyed The Emperor's map because it's almost as if the Emperor feels guilt by seeing the map of old Earth and realized he isn't as all knowing as he believed himself to be. He once lived in that same place and due to his actions, plunged the planet and galaxy into war.
Earth became a barren hellscape before the Emperor rose to prominence.
My personal head canon is that this planet IS Earth! Terra and our Earth are in drasticly diffenet spots in this galaxy. And changing a planet in the center of the galaxy to look like the cradle of your race, sounds like something you do when you have STCs and the whole shabang.
@derkrischa3720 honesty, my headcannon is that the real earth is hidden, and if anyone does discover the true birth place of man, they hide it, yes that included the tyranids, the orks, the daemons and the eldar, none know why they just do, something about the orginal earth just feels both right and very very wrong, like if they ill speak of it, it will find them and take them, if their human, they wont ever leave, but if their xeno? Mother earth doesnt like them
@@thelouster5815 My dude the Emperor has been manipulating things since pre-history.
@derkrischa3720 Yo that's such a good theory. Reminds me of a fantasy book, though I don't want to name the book as that would be a spoiler, but it fits super well.
Creates an entirely different question though: Why does the Emperor not know this?
I'd argue one of the scariest mysteries in 40k is the Dark Cells of Terra. Put it like this; The Shadowkeeper Custodian Shield Host guard it with their lives. Not to keep people out,that's a secondary purpose but their main purpose is to keep the things in there locked away. Imagine all the artefacts and entities locked in the cells,where their escape could have devastating effects on the galaxy and well...some did after The Great Rift opened
Is it true that there is a Primarch locked up in there?
@@ElderRudra We’re not sure, there is something called subject 11 in there which people believe may be primarch 11
All manner of terrible things are kept in there, like Harvey Weinstein, Lizzo, OneMindSyndicate, Matt Ward, She-Hulk; to say nothing of the Emperor's 30 millennia old porn collection, the real, imprisoned Omnissiah and Alpharius and Omegon's triplet brother Epsilonius! Should any of those escape the Imperium, and even the Empyrean, would be doomed; on a positive note though, it would probably scare the Tyranids away!! 🤯😂
11th edition. Valdor returns to Terra after the Tyranids have devastated the Sol System. Approaches a cell under the palace.
(Valdor) "SCP-682, I will grant your sanctioned revenge on the Foundation on one condition. You must destroy the Tyrannid hive queen."
(SCP-682.) "Hold my beer"
@@TheEyez187 I dunno.... lizzo... biomass.. may be tyranid catnip
The map has a lot of potential for an origin story, depending on the details the emperor could even know the aproximate date based in man made changes to geography.
i think the emperor was "wait... i was alive at that time, how they managed to get to terra without me noticing it...who the fuck were this guys?!?!?"
@@danielgayosanchez or maybe he knew, like a doomsday military vault... full of dormant men of iron and the map is part of their mission, like a dead man switch wich never triggered.
@@leandrochavez6480Indeed, sort of military bunker for higher up..they always have those giant map
He made the map back in 33AD, after he was crucified
Funny enough before this vide3o me and a Buddy were doing a homebrew rp where we had trazyn give a tour to "reluctant" guests of several inquisitors and there retinue along his musuem, Sure he shows them the Imperium wing. But theres something even older. As he would lead the party past to a wing kept clean by scarabs, Flags and banners of nations long gone, tools and weapons of war on display. And front and Center of it all was a Map of Terra, But Terra of today. Prize collection of Relics of earth before, From wildlife to People. It would be "The Origins of Mankind." Exibit. Of course there was the "STC" Library where we will have to make the players roll to keep there tech priest companions tied like a hog from going buck wild. Lmao
some random dude: "If I could feel fear, I would feel it then."
some random aeldari otaku in his mancave many years ago: "Aw, neat, my map of Earth is finally complete! Man, humans sure are amazing!"
I will never get tired of you explaining me cosmic horrors beyond my imagination so casually right before sleep so I can have horrific nightmares
Ah nothing like the Grim Dark of the 41st to ease me into the day. Loving these mystery lore videos.
Few things hit as good as good Warhammer horror and mysteries
It feels more like an SCP video than one about 40k, and I'm all for it!
Thought that as well. The last story is more like HP Lovecraft though (The Call of Cthulhu). sm
Haha, yes! I was thinking the same thing
The SCP universe could easily fit into 40K.
@@pleaseenteranamelol711 Depends on the "version" of the SCPver. Some SCPs such as the Scarlet King and "The Worm" from Project Palisade would eat the Necrons, Imperium, Tyranids, Eldar, Chaos Gods and C'tan all at once and think it was a very light snack. 😨 Other versions don't have much less powerful things running around in them and would fit better. sm
And don’t even get me started on versions where mekhane and the other god with a name too complicated to pronounce with their original power exists. Mekhane got a Lore nerf so hard that before it he could beat the Scarlet king, the hanged king, and pretty much anything. He was Lore-wise the co-creator of the entire MULTIVERSE. The only other god to compete was the god of the unpronouncable name and flesh
The Silent Ones are really just wonderful Lovecraftian vibes to add to the mystery and grimdark that keeps us all addicts to this amazing universe.
Anyone in this universe: I’m having a decent day
Chaos: and I took that personally
damn, reading 40k for 3 years now and i can't imagine the amount of cosmic horror in 40k. Crazy work Wes
You are entering the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location. The kind of place where there might be a monster, or some kind of weird mirror. These are just examples; it could also be something much better. Prepare to enter: The Scary Door.
“Turns out it’s man”
Tsara'noga, a Dyson Sphere, Adept Corteswain and the Illogical Labyrinth. No one ever talks about these things, but they are some of the most interesting and horrifying scraps of C'tan lore, because they describe the remaining unsundered one.
My money on who brought the map over was likely a Perpetual, one of the only other immortals other than the Emperor who could remember when Terra was a more beautiful world.
Maybe thats why the Emperor was in awe. He had found evidence of one of his comrades who had long forsaken him and his dream, and that perhaps somewhere they were still out there
DRINKING COFFEE WHILE LISTENING TO COSMIC HORROR
Same but I’m drinking water
Nice cold Dr Pepper for me!
That's the way to do it.
Isn't it wonderful?
...are you watching me?
I feel like The Emperor's map is probably made by ancient humans, probably before the golden age of technology. So that's why it has ancient earth.
So Delaque are basically denizens from Shadows Over Innsmouth and Cuthulu?
Yeah the author of the book so stole it from Lovecraft.
@@NomadUrpagi
I mean sort of but also no.
It's clearly inspired by it but there are also a lot of differences.
The people in shadow over innsmouth started associating with fish people when their town fell on hard times, and effectively made a deal with them.
They were breeding with fish people, and their offspring were slowly becoming more fish like, and became increasingly hostile to outsiders.
Here it's mostly psychological changes, and I doubt they have the ability to swim that deep, or breathe under water. It's also unknown if the sleeping gods they worship are evil or hostile in this case.
I also don't think they made a deal with evil fish people, since in this case they are getting the memories of a lost civilization.
With a side of Dark City's Strangers
Sorta
WH40K: DO NOT GO INTO THE RED ROOM!
Mick Jagger: Yeah but can I paint the door black?
Also Mick: Yes I'm still alive. What of it? Keef is still around, too.
Ahh hearing stories about mersadie olinton just makes me sad. I hated reading about when loken finally was allowed to see her in that prison and they had ripped her memory coils out. It was heartbreaking. It really tugged at me when loken wanted to get her out of there so badly but she just told him no. That whole portion of the story is so sad
Yeah, I agree, I loved all of the remembrance or characters in those first three books. They were so well written. f you haven't read the siege of Tera yet, she plays a pretty pivotal role in... I think either book one or book two. Wasn't super happy with the ending personally, but it was great seeing her again
@WesHammer I have heard she was in it. I was trying to get in the rest of the horus heresy in full order before siege of Terra but it is absolutely killing me not to read those books.
Ya know, I think people sometimes forgot about mersadie olinton because euphrati keeler and kyril sinderman were so important, especially for guys like garro and sigismond. But for loken it always felt more like it was about mersadie and kyril. I was always super bummed that Ignace karkasy died because in those first few books, he was incredible. He was my favorite of the remembrancers on that ship. I think it was a great choice to make the remembrencers such an important group of people
It’s neat to learn that HP Lovecraft got an entire world in this universe to play with!
😂😂 I love that!
Wes spitting out so many vids lately. It's a grim, dark time to be alive... and I'm loving it.
wes didn't hit like on this comment? is he not loving it?
@@akatsukixi4726 He's probably hard at work on the next video. At least, he better be! 🤗
What I will remember of this video, is that the Horus Heresy could have been avoid if the Emperor gave giant funny hats to his sons
Oh. My. God. That's genius!
the map would be my fav out of them. reading the book and hearing this stoic marine. this leader of super humans tell the tale of finding something so odd and bizzare. that it did stick with him and send fear and shivers throughout if he could feel it. a stand out momment in a great book
Wes is such a natural story teller, another banger dude.
The thought of the Emperor of mankind being afraid of something sends shivers through my body
Like THE master of Mankind, the strongest human to ever live who fought gods being scared of something that does something to me i cannot describe
I love how sometimes, something as small as a paragraph in a book, briefly mentioning some event, can leave a reader's mind bewildered as the written word paints an incomplete painting for them to fill out themselves. That is why I consider writing an art from. Something as simple as finding a map of an ancient time long passed on an alien world leaves so many horrifying questions. These kinds of things are why I love series like Warhammer 40k and why I wanted so desperate to write my own series... which is turning out to be both much harder than I thought and way more fun that I expected it to be. Wes, thank you sir for making videos like this. Your lore videos are one of my favorite things to watch.
Really glad you enjoyed them! And I absolutely agree with your take here. I love the little bits of flavor text that are not fully explained so they let us as the audience use our imagination to fill in the blanks :)
Your comment actually got me thinking. I've always been a "you don't need to be a cook to know the food is bad" kinda guy. Lately, I've realized how difficult any sort of creative art is, even if it's not my type. You don't realize this unless you actually sit down and start creating your dream project. It's easy to criticize, very difficult to create.
I've never been the type to criticize, I've always tried to find something positive to say cause I don't wanna upset no one. mostly because I wanna encourage others to keep trying.
Jesus Christ, how many mysteries are there in this W40k Unvierse???
It's like its never-ending.
Yes
Aware that there's a limited amount of mysteries within 40k - but this little run of videos has been SO interesting! I think its been my favourite deep dive thus far (with the exception of your Mechanicum one, which was *chef's kiss* and not just because Im an Admech fanboy)
Thanks for the vids Wes, hope you're doing great, brother!
from what I have gathered, 40k have more "mysteries" than some other franchises like Star Wars, so it is not that limited.
Wes, just want to say thank you for always making my mornings with your awesome warhammer videos! You’re up there with some of the best narration channels on TH-cam!
Halfway done with Storm of Iron, and here you are spoiling me ❤️
I love how most of these mysteries come from the various tabletop RPG's like Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Deathwatch, though the lore pieces in those games isn't considered canon to a lot of the fanbase even though they are canon; That might explain why people don't really know about them, since some people might view them as being non-canonical due to being part of 3rd-party RPG's and therefore not worth the time to read up about them.
0:44 I know the word "chilling" does by definition mean something that makes you shiver in fear (or actual cold temp) but I cannot hear that word without hearing john cena saying "bing qilling"
The murder Room reminds me of the flayed one pocket Dimension, the descriptions are very similar and given that the flayer curse comes from the wound in real space that was created by the death of Landugor, flayed one equivalents should exist for other species as well.
trully thankful for the time stamps on the video skiping the annoying sponshorship without losing a bit on the dope video
Tuesdays are the worst day of the week....this helps so much
Ah, the Murder Room... One of Calixis Sector's many oddities. Like many of that cursed place's mysteries, it was intentionally left vague by the writers, so that game masters could easily apply their own takes on the story without contradicting source materials.
Rain: Eldar maidenworld being reclaimed
Red room: Necron FlayedOne pocket dimension
Map: Toumbworld colonized by humans
Your upload schedule is hectic my man. We got the admec deep dive and now this within days of each other. Awesome stuff, you're working really hard. I really like your 40k mystery videos too so this is a nice treat.
Here I'm 09.55 PM listening to horror, I hope I got some good night sleep after this
Time to dive into the Grimdark once more. NOW with coffee! Thanks Wes! Please keep up the fantastic work!
WesHammer, because you recently posted this video I really hope you see my comment. I also hope you realize how much your videos mean to me, and that you're the first warhammer youtuber I started watching. I look forward to every time you post videos, because then I can sit down and chill with a warm cup of hot chocolate, whilst learning about the warhammer universe
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Close second to Luetin09.
Also part of the warhammer-and-hot-drink club
40k has the best random lore to remind us that it’s not all about the battles.
Keep up the great work
Me hearing West talking about the Red Room: a spooky and scary place.
Khorne hearing West talking about the Red Room: Darn it, why do these mortals keep slipping into my private study. Must be the work of that twitching sack of tentacles Tzeech.
LETS GO!! Coffee and a lore dump, starting this morning right.
Also, congrats on the weight loss, Wes! You're looking great!
Coffeehammer brother!
These mystery videos are the best 40k content on TH-cam. I love hearing about the mysterious creatures and places, please make more
My day is now better and complete.
💜
Thank you as always!
I love that this has become a series. xD I know I said previously I don't like mysteries - but I do! I just like the aspect that we may someday understand them. it's that prospect that things may change from study that entices me to mysteries!
*The EMPEROR'S* Map has got to be the one that intrigues me the most.
That it left The Master of Mankind⁽ᵇᵉˡᵒᵛᵉᵈ ᵇʸ ᵃˡˡ⁾, Himself, speechless.... that has awesome and ominous inferences, no doubt.
As someone that doen't understand lore of warhammer 40k, I thought that Raycon is one of the terrifying mysteries after checking time stamps
it is a lot of hard work to drop this many videos this fast. Thanks, Wes!
Thanks! And ya... I'm gonna need to sleep at some point 😅
Weshammer can you do a video on the planets of the Sol System in 40k?
As a newer fan of Warhammer, I love your videos. Keep the lore coming please.
It's terrifying that the red room you step into could've been the crime scene of anyone that went through the door before you. It'd explain why the door can appear anywhere. Reminds me of the backrooms if the liminal rooms are replaced with liminal crime scenes.
For anyone wondering where Wes's videos fit in their chronological ordering... Look at the face hes making on the thumbnail. The face tells you where they fit into the subseries... I was looking for 40k horrifying mysteries part 1 for almost an hour before I realized this.
One of the many reasons that WesHammer is one of the best Warhammer 40k lore and discussion channels on all of TH-cam.
Always stoked to see a new WesHammer video but good god do I love this series. Keep em coming!
More of this, please. I think you're the only one that tackles this kind of subjects.
You might like Leutin9. He does some videos on really obscure 40k lore.
the colony of rain sounds llike they got a visit from whatever the Watcher in the Rain was or a close relation. the Murder room is TERRIFYING and needs an audio story.
the emperors map is frankly easily explained: either ancient humans left it behind like a beloved old well MAP or a Xeno just checking out the neighbourhood did an intense study, put it in a vault and then shit happened. the only strange thing about it is how well protected it is and its being the ONLY thing on the entire planet. makes you wonder what happened to it?
In a universe with things as terrifying as the ghoul stars or the various unknown xenos, the idea of an entire species of Cthulhu is bad but not so bad. The are is always something worse out there...
Oooh maybe the red room is a corrupted part of the webway ish in a sense? Or something similar that the dark mechanicum is trying to create?
The map one is wild. There’s so many possible ideas of where it could have came from. Totally seems like something Tzeentch would do to screw with The Emperor directly, yet doesn’t really give off Tzeentchian vibes. Which is an even more unsettling thought.
This is awesome. Would love more content though from the normal person's perspective, that would show horror they feel in face of everything or joy and awe they feel seeing space marines
I see a Weshammer video, I watch and I like; simple as
Also I'm almost out of videos now.
Is there a part 2 to the most powerful factions in Warhammer? I'm having a hard time finding it
The final broadcast of Rain gives me ideas for a primarch
Dang, Wes. Love the channel, love the content, love the presentation. You seem like a really cool dude.
Hey Wes, could you do a video on the top 5 novels for beginners to the 40k novels? Several months back is when I really started to get into 40k (had previously been into End Times) through games like Darktide and Inquisition, and even more through your videos, and I just would like to have an easy list of books that set up back story for the reader, or at the least, will make things easier to understand for a newbie. Funnily enough, I'm currently listening to an audio book of Horus Rising, and while I enjoy it, and can even understand things thanks to your lore videos, I feel like there might be better books to ease myself into the franchise. Thank you regardless for your videos!
As terrifying as the idea as the Emperor’s map is…I can’t help but also feel that the emperor was kind of happy about it too. To see earth in its prime again. But yeah whatever made that map, I hope they had no ill intent.
the emperor longs for those long nights of pre-christian pagan rituals
Someone walks into Murder Room
Khorne: What are you doing in my living room?!
LOVE your 40k Mysteries ep its so alluring. But I also do enjoy your other eps as well. I just dont know anyone that talks about the mysteries of 40k as much as you do.
Edit. I have to say each story was fascinating but I feel like the one that made me Re-listen was The emperor's map. Just like Loken something is not right and to see a map of the earth once was made chill even me.
and Rain and murder room
Hey Wes, got a few questions for ya:
- Say GW gave you the chance and honor of writing out what one of the Lost Primarchs was (personality, lifestyle, creed, tactics, legion name, etc) and what happened to that Primarch, would you do it and what would he be if you wrote & designed him?
- Have you looked into the User made Factions? Be interesting to know what your favorites are.
- From your previous Unsolved Mysteries video, whats the name of the song you used for the Halo Devices segment?
There’s so much potential for this universe it’s unreal
Im brand new to the 40k franchise, and this kind of thing is incredible to listen to
Very nice and interesting videos. Even though i dont read any new 40k lore as I dont like the changes, I still love the research you put into it.
God... Wes, youre the best, bro. I fucking LOVE these horror vids. Ive been listening to your channel all day, some videos multiple times over because i enjoy them so much. Thank you for all you do for us. Remember, tho im just some random dude in Arizona, youre solely responsible for my sudden interest in Warhammer.
Really glad you enjoy them! 😃
Weshammer"never go in the red room"me"why...what is in there"? Wes"well...some say people will go insane if you go inside....others say there is is a dark entity who will rip your soul out of your body..and some say there may be horrible horrors beyond your imagination and..hay what are you doing..stop"!(I look in there) me"errrr...Wes....its just a room full of chairs....lots and lots of chairs..as far as the eye can see" Wes"....oh" me".....yeahhh...bit of a let down really huh"(hay this may be grim dark but ya still got to have a laugh)
Thak you for this video! I'm planning to run some Dark Heresy for our playgroup and it inspired me to strat writing basically SCP-like scenario.
I love this series, please more heresy of this category! Plus that Primarch series I’ve commented about on like 20 of your uploads.
Is there anything more to the "emperor's map"? That really piqued my interest
A Red Room? Let me guess: "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
I must say, this series of mysteries and obscure lore is my favorite. How massive is the universe
Thank you WesHammer for doing videos on the dark, mysterious, and horrifying parts of the Warhammer universe! Loveeeee these videos!
Dude i love your channel. Been binge watching for weeks and you have truly brought this universe to life for me. Thank you!
It's more than chilling. It's Bing Chilling.
Love to listen to your content while painting minis - it inspires me 😊
The Emperor's map sticks with me. There are days when I look out over the vast forests and shorelines of my hometown, and picutring all of it bulldozed and replaced with endless slums and factories. I look into the horrible future and dread the probability of that image. How I feel dread, the Emperor must feel the same but in melancholy, for he would see the reverse: the purity and potential of Mother Earth lost forever in exhanged for the crushing brutality of Holy Terra.
For some reason, the story of the silent ones makes me think of what would have happened to the planet from the Subnautica games if it were in the warhammer universe instead. Really loving these videos, Wes, and I actually just got one of those shirts in on Friday, the Cybergeshia one, that you're wearing in this episode.
Bit of a silly thought. The red room reminded me of Futurama's twilight zone parody. The Scary door.
Ah good. If the horrors of any imaginable kinds weren't sufficient into the grim darkness of the far future, this setting has to deal with SCP-like entities and phenomenons too
the idea of the foundling worlds being a protected area of space is what set me onto the idea that the Tau are a protected group of necrontyr given directed evolution and advancement by whatever protected them from the imperium by warp storms.
Just what I needed as I start my work week 😊
"you know what shouldnt be prohibitively expensive? -
"food?" -
"good quality ear buds!" -
"ah, i see"
When I was running a Dark Heresy campaign I used the Murder Room as a scenario. The acolytes were ordered to investigate a series of random murders committed by people who had no history of doing anything heretical or violent. They slowly uncovered the truth, that there was a door that led to a place outside of time, a red room of murder, that any who crossed the threshold would be forever lost, and that whatever emerged wasn't the person anymore but an instrument of slaughter. They discovered the current killer and took him out rather easily since he was just a scribe... but doing so only led to more questions.
The acolytes eventually found the way to stop the carnage; they had to discover who had been replaced most recently and shove them back through the door, *alive,* before they could kill even one victim. Doing so would cause the room to vanish, though it would always return at some point in a few centuries.
They found out it was a local Arbites captain, and after a tough fight the big brawny ex-guardsman acolyte managed to knock him through the door... but not before getting a good look inside. Unfortunately the player of the guardsman had to leave the campaign a few weeks later and I never got to follow up on it, but I thought about having him return to the game as an NPC who was now possessed by whatever inhabits the room.
Love this series man btw what do you think about the Lion coming back to the current setting