Can we talk about how in a lot of these teen/Wattpad-esque romance movies the love interest that comes in the sequel to challenge our main couple's relationship is usually a man of color?? Usually a mixed race or lighter skinned POC so he's non threatening??
Yes! It’s also in corny romance novels you can pick up at the grocery store. I know because my mom had a metric fuck ton of them in the house and I was broke and had no internet. The whole “oh the bipoc character who’s a little bit edgy but soulful came in and he’s going to be a part of this triangle before you go back to your white ass boring first choice” thing can be seen a mile off.
I didn't realize they made the third leg POC to make them non-threatening, I thought they wanted cheap diversity points. But wow, you're right. That's.... Really gross.
No. But Tall Girl could have been movie with nuances on how modern social media and the beauty industry creates body dysmorphia and terrifying anxieties where there were none, so that her huge speech in the first movie would have just incited reactions of "Huh? We never gave a shit that you were tall, we were just making fun of you the way friends make fun of each other in high school" And then Tall Girl 2 would have been her grappling with this revelation that people may not really have been paying as much attention to her tallness as she thought and the realization that everyone else, including her seemingly successful sister, is also dealing with similar anxieties she has about her body.
Exactly especially when the lead girl had a difficult time on Dance Moms because of her height so it would have been more nuanced and believable to her experience
To be fair, teenagers can be excessively petty. So I could see most insults she received genuine digs at her just because the person making them wanted a reaction out of her.
Her anxiety is a definitely problem, but her main problem is that she doesn't have a desire for violence. When you're rich, white and tall, she can bonk all her bully and bonk her way into the role. If she does this, the movie is done within 15 minutes.
I love how Netflix is trying to blame us like "oh you said her problems were small, you asshole, now look". Like no? The main problem was she acted like she had the hardest life than anyone else and treated the people in her life like shit, as if the world revolved around her.
This reminded me of her signature quote in the first movie that's been rightfully made fun of repeatedly. The white, blonde, conventionally attractive, wealthy main character with loving parents and a supportive significant other here: "You think your life is hard? I'm a high school junior wearing size 13 Nikes. *Men's* size 13 Nikes. Beat that!"
Yeah exactly! I'm the first person to say that people have their insecurities, their anxieties, and that we shouldn't dismiss their feelings because people have hardest lives. But then, she says things like "I wear size 13 Nikes. Men's size 13 Nikes. Beat that". And seriously, how do you not respond to that with "there are peopl with cancer, no home, who are killed for who they love", and so on? They bring that to themselves.
I wasn't planning on it lol but I know at least once or two channels who suffered through part one and I was definitely waiting to see them watch part two so I could enjoy them suffering yet again. But lookie here Cindy and Elias came through to make my day better early 😂.
The way they could’ve actually talked about the problem tall women in theatre face such as being typecast as the mother figure, never being the romantic lead cause you’re too tall, etc. and shown this uglier side of the industry where things out fo your control can mean you have no career, and instead they just gave her the lead anyway??? I’m so confused Edit: The director also would never have been cast as Kim, a young ingenue, not if she was taller than her counterpart
Or how the school has such a competitive theater program that their first rehearsal looks like they're ready to go on stage, but somehow Jody, who's never been involved at all, gets cast as the lead?
Why are all the side characters so much more interesting than the main people we're supposed to be invested in. Is it just part of the netflix teen movie character checklist?
My theory is : they want the main character to be as average as possible to help identification. But by doing that, they remove all personality of this character, and so all the others become more interesting.
My biggest disappointment with this franchise that she never responds to the "how's the weather up there?" joke by quipping "Forecast calls for rain" and then spitting in their face.
In fifteen years this movie is gonna be her "look we all start somewhere, don't bring it up" story that they pull out in interviews after she's moved up in her career
See, if it turned out that, all this time, she's had undiagnosed anxiety disorder, hence latching onto innocuous things about herself and blowing them up in her head to the point of self-loathing, and the movie was about her learning to accept this and get help...well it would be a more serious film, but at least it would have A PLOT!
Oh so when a love interest in a movie swings his head over a bunk bed like Spider-Man it's quirky. But when I do it I'm "violating personal space" and "scary beyond all reason." Yeah, okay Netflix
I usually deal with my imposter syndrome with plain acceptance. Like so what if I didn't deserve this opportunity? I still got it, what you gonna do abt it huh? 🤨
@@billuraral1870 I wish anxiety was logical. I try my best to drive out bad thoughts, but when your body is screaming about the coming apocalypse and you're like WTF... man, it's so dumb and rough lol
Cindy, sacrificing herself again for the greater good, so that we don't have to go through it. She's a hero with no cape. Also, the hair looking fire 😍
Is it weird that I think this movie would be *so* much better if her being tall just didn't matter? Like, if instead of trying to push that being tall is this huge problem, it focused more on her self esteem issues and anxiety and how sometimes those things aren't caused by anything specific? If this was a movie about a girl who had a seemingly perfect life, but *still* suffered from these feelings of self doubt and hatred, I think that could have been such a poignant story. Because mental health issues don't discriminate. It seems like this movie threw in her poor mental state for shits and giggles, but they could have done a lot more with it and handled it much better.
Both movies would have been better if they were actually ABOUT her anxiety instead of height. Maybe in the first movie no one is actually bullying her for being tall, they're just occasionally making jokes about her height (but not in a mean spirited way); but every time she takes it personally and gets anxious. She manages to get over her obsession with height thanks to her friends and family's support and finally gets a boyfriend. Then in the second movie her anxiety gets in the way again because of the school play and she ends up screwing over her relationship with milk crate guy. If her anxiety was treated like an actual illness that gets in the way of her (otherwise perfect) life the story would be WAY more compelling and relatable.
One super fucked up thing about the movie is the other love interest’s backstory. He was “overweight” as a child so he just decided to be healthier then he was thin and buff so his life was better and he actually should be ashamed that he was fat as a kid and it is a bad thing that was in his control. Its absolutely disgusting and this movie makes me sick.
As someone with depression and severe anxiety I symphatized with Jody's self doubts that seem to stem from small things. I get it. Like when I take public transportation, a lot of times I worry throughout the journey whether I paid the fare correctly and am I respectful enough with other passengers, and is my behavior pleasant enough so I don't disturb others. This kind of things bother me. I tried to place myself in Jody's shoes, and I am sure that I'd feel that much (probs more severe) anxiety and self doubt like her. I don't want to invalidate irl people's feelings who relate with Jody's. It's just ... for movies or any piece of media, they can certainly go beyond when it comes to crafting a story hence, they have a great opportunity to write a story involving a character who represents people that needs more visibility and yet they still chose to make a story like many others that is centered around a rich beautiful white girl with a loving family, supportive boyfriend, and good friends. Sorry for the bad english. Not my first language.
I don't think the problem is that she's privileged although it would be nice to have a minority main character (in all capacities, not rich, not white, not have a loving family) but that they write it so fake and don't dig deep enough into her problems or show it in a deeper sense to show them as problems so it's shallow and well to us, a non problem. I mean we have had "minority" main characters in Netflix rom coms (Lara Jean, that girl from he's all that who's supposed to be poor??) But they really never touch on the fact that they are a minority or the systematic problems that they face. Yeah, anxiety is a problem but all I see is the self doubts (I didn't watch the movie) but not the fear, the rapid heart beats, the nausea, the micro things that effect your life the most. I mean the self doubts are one of the things but it's not all of it and then where is this coming from? She doesn't have anything that would cause her anxiety or make her have anxiety besides being tall but they also don't show why her being tall would make her feel awkward or uncomfortable or not like in the spotlight except for the fact that she's bullied for it which ig sure (but I think she's only being called nicknames and then doesn't describe the body dismorphia of why being tall is bad and not conventional and instead goes for cheap nicknames like sasquatch) but also she kind of acts like this is the biggest problem in the world which it's not. Like anxiety is about small problems but it's about small problems that build up. Anxiety comes from somewhere I'm pretty sure, it doesn't just happen and then it makes you panic at the littlest thing and you don't know why. Jodie doesn't have any problems (at least not shown in the movie) though so it seems disingenuous (like it just doesnt make sense. Anxiety is fight or flight. What is she scared of?!!?).
_"His face looks too young for her"_ I propose a spin-off of Tall Girl called "Not-As-Young-As-I-Look Guy." It's based on my life as a guy in his mid-20s who everyone thinks is a teenager. The story centers on me trying to buy a bottle of wine w/o getting suspicious looks.
The only good thing about this movie is the white girl using her privilege to uplift Farida. Good for her, she has a great fashion sense. Also it's pretty cool how the style department did seem to hire someone who can style black hair, hope this becomes a trend instead of these stupid movie premises.
they should have made her poor and maybe she would’ve been more “relatable” but no not only is she’s white, blonde, conventionally attractive she is dang rich too, I don’t feel sorry for her 😂
as someone with several diagnosed anxiety disorders i didnt find this at all an accurate representation of anxiety... like some parts of it i guess? but she was just... cured?? great video y'all
Honestly, im kind of pleasantly surprised by the musical angle? i remember when tall girl first came out and in my head i was trying to think of ways for jodie to have an *actual* problem that stems from her height. i figured if she was a theater kid who tried out for romeo and Juliet or something, and they wanted a really petite & traditionally feminine girl to play the lead, and she gets cast as a side character or a male simply because of her height, then it would at least add a more realistic issue (since high schoolers dont really bully others for being tall, but it would make sense if they were like "youre too tall to be this role/youre taller than the male counterpart and we think that's weird" cause people actually do that more often irl.
I hate that they gave her anxiety and imposter syndrome rep bc on one hand those are totally valid things but on this friggin character? I cannot find an ounce of sympathy and understanding. Romcoms (esp TEEN onesss) have no business having sequels and entire trilogies, like name ONE good sequel ?? Can they at least focus on another couple instead of the boring (if they aren't outright toxic) main couple
The way I can juxtapose their agony of only being 20 minutes into the movie to me sitting through my online classes.. Oh, wait, that’s parallelism my bad
Doesn’t it bother to someone else when Dunkan (The short guy I dont remember his name) is upset because the tall girl is more secure of herself? Like last year (in the movies timeline) she was bulied, she was sort of depressed, and really insecure. This current year she is finally more comfortable, has a lot of new friends, is finally content with her height. And still the boyfriend gets mad at that. For what we saw, they definetly hang out a lot, she never pushed him aside (Not talking about the kiss after the break up, a different topic). I just think that behavior is super toxic and manipulative as hell. You don’t get mad at your partner because they are doing better.
as fun as it is to watch your reactions to these types of movies tall girl 2 really exemplifies the general frustration i have with teen media's gravitation towards trying to deal with Serious Topics TM such as bullying or anxiety that affect teenagers by whitewashing it down to the most palatable type of "struggle" ever
The way I follow Sabrina Carpenter on all social medias (including being subscribed to her newsletter) and STILL didn't know she was in the sequel (or that the sequel was out at all... or that there WAS a sequel)
@@withcindy She might have done an Instagram story for it or something, but she has a new single coming out Friday so if she did then it's buried beneath all the promo for that. Other than that, no
I think it's reasonable for Jody to suffer from stage anxiety, but like, did that really justify an entire movie to be told? This movie should have focused on Swedish boy and pep-talk Black girl, who seemed to have way more chemistry and personality while also dealing with their own conflicts. Sending lots of good vibes to you and Ellias for enduring these movies~
Omg a really tall pretty blonde girl got the lead in the the play I’m doing. She’s actually bullied relentles- oh wait no. She’s beautiful, sweet, perfect for the role, popular, and not oppressed because of your height. In conclusion WHAT IS THIS MOVIE???
Thank you for watching it so no one else has to. Also gotta love how they have that whole monologue questioning why her struggles are valid but then end up not actually tackling it in the movie itself lmao. Answering the question "how could you compare yourself to minorities and disenfranchised people" with "oh coz I have stage anxiety" sure is a choice
okay but i feel like the parts where she's overthinking and you can hear her inside her mind are kinda relatable as someone with chronic anxiety, i go through that kind of chaotic thinking a lot, it's exhausting
I’d love a Mean Tall Girl movie where she’s popular and witty and the antagonist tries to make her “see” that her “only” asset is her looks but she beats them at like idk the Mathletes and just when the antagonist is like “you’re different 🥺” she gets a call confirming her contract with like a super high class modeling agency and she’s like “later loser 😘”
So I'll be the voice of dissent and say that a movie like this probably would have helped me as an anxiety-riddled kid. Anxiety is crippling and is blind to your socioeconomic status. Other people could say "wtf your life is perfect what's the problem?" but anxiety IS the problem. I get that there are other stories that deserve to be told not centered around a privileged white girl, but that's more of a meta critique than a critique specific to this story. I'm gonna go *real* broad for a second (sorry I know this is just a review of a dumb teen movie and doesn't deserve this level of scrutiny, but bear with me). I don't like the idea that we should curb our empathy for individuals just because of their demographics. I think twitter especially has a bad habit of dismissing people's individual struggles if they're not from an "oppressed enough" group, but it doesn't make sense because the whole point is that oppression is *systemic*, not individual. We can and should empathize with the individual regardless of their identity. I can even empathize with people who are "too pretty" as you joked about, because they never know if people like them for their personality or if they're being viewed as a trophy. In my mind, the way to fight oppression is not to reduce our empathy toward individuals from the dominant group, but to use political levers to change the systems that are actually causing oppression. That said, I can absolutely understand not having empathy for powerful people from the dominant group who are perpetuating systems of oppression.
I see where you coming from and I do believe that we should empathize with people regardless of background, I feel like what makes it so unbearable with the movie is how it frames the whole thing of Jodie being tall as her issue without showing any struggles that feel realistic enough, like sudden growth spurts makes you feel awkward in your body, heavier and its harder to coordinate your limbs, having to always stand at the back so you don't block the view for others or hunch over to talk with most people which leads to back problems, little stuff like that that may not be the biggest problem in the world but still feels real. Instead it goes for the usual no one ever liked me and everyone bullied me exclusively for this one thing, that makes the movie feel so unreal and fake. Also, the script is overall just really bad and the acting doesn't really help at all for most, and I think that's why so many people have it so much.
@@alexparra15 Not to mention we never see her invisible struggles with being a Tall Teen; it's not just towering over her peers, but Jodi would struggle to find clothes that are suited to her style that would fit her well, and going to a specialty shop when you're a teenager and you can't find ANYTHING that fits you like your friends/peers? Constant assumptions of her interests due to her height. Not the stupid tall jokes but like 'oh you must be into basketball' or stuff like that; as you said, constantly hunching over or slouching to basically FIT into smaller places, forget about finding a comfortable seat anywhere. And yeah, these are all minor--but real. And as a teen she'd be focused on her own problems.
honestly, the reason why I made fun of this movie and her problems isn't because her anxiety is invalid because she's white. It's because her "anxiety" feels like it was added in to give her a "real" problem because the producers realized being tall isn't worth two entire movies. If this franchise focused on her anxiety and mental health issues from the get go, I think I would've appreciated it more.
Omg! That restaurant (Shogun) sent the most beautiful floral arrangement to my Dad’s funeral a few months ago. He went there regularly for nearly 30 years and they’d give him a gift card for Christmas every year. Really neat to see it in a movie, even this bad one 🤪😂😂
that girl really has no external problems but I get what it's like to have that voice in your head stopping you from enjoying even the smallest of things. her anxiety is still the only relatable thing about her though.
I know these cheesy movies are funny to laugh at, but... A big BUT... This was the girl who was humiliated and kicked off of dance moms for being too tall!!!!!! It was absolutely heartbreaking! Who yells at a 12yo girl and kicks her off a dance team for being too tall????? This girl has obviously come through that and is still working hard screw that crap dance moms show! All watch all her movies or shows just for support and show that stupid dance teacher being too anything is crap!
You know the last minute of class where you're just waiting for the clock to tick so you can go home? That's what this movie reminded me of. Annoys you while you're waiting, but feels amazing when it's over.
how one chick just went 'my dad doesn't care about my accomplishments and disappoints me every year' and she just starts talking about her breakup like hell no
No because as a theatre kid, I couldn't watch this. First rehearsal is *never* that put together. No one is singing and God *knows* there's no set. Usually we just do a read-through of the musical or play. So what was all *that*???
I remember scrolling through tumblr and seeing the cast of Tall Girl 2 were answering questions there last week. I never found out what to do with that information.
I don't know if you know but Luke Eisner (who plays the bitchy swedish dude) actually has a band called VOILA and they're pretty good! their song "Therapy" found its way into one of my playlists a few months ago and I listened to it on repeat for 3 days, unaware that he's one of the musicians lol
I did not realize how much I needed this until I watched it. Thank you so much for this. I was on a depression spiral and just in my head and dealing with too heavy feelings. Watching this gave me my first genuine laugh today. Love you guys. Stay amazing!
im tall like jodie, when I watched the movie I felt kinda offended cause they make it seem like being tall is like a deformity...? like, seriously? kkkk being tall is pretty great I cannot imagine myself as a short person it would be super weird hahahah love ur channel Cindy, funny as always!
I'm not going to watch either of these movies, but is it possible that she had such a problem with being tall because she already had an anxiety disorder? I was the only trans person in my high school and being gawked at like a zoo animal definitely made me more anxious.
"My boyfriend and I broke up recently. He gave me these. It's probably one of the sweetest thing anyone has ever done for me." One second later she throws them into the fire. Girl, you okay? ....But I guess they pulled them out again, so whatever
The singing and dancing is giving me traumatic flashbacks of Riverdale Heathers But it's worse because I was actually in Bye Bye Birdie when I was 13 and its a wonderful memory. How dare you sully my memories Tall Girl
2:44
this t jefferson cosplayer over here like:
“we hold these crates to be self confident,
that all short kings can date tall girls”
LOL
Well when I meet Tall girl Jefferson
*What?*
I'mma compel her to include short queens in the sequel!
*Werk!*
If you get the ref you're welcome
@@mundo1998 yesssssss
@@mundo1998 Absolutely love this. As a small person I agree with this movement and also love the reference
@@mundo1998 look around look around, how lucky we are to be shorties right now
I don't understand, as the tallest most fertile female, why doesn't she just eat the other girls who are mean to her?
Massive plot hole
Lmao
PFTT
I hate that I read this the first time completely serious and didn't even realize what I just read
She could've easy kicked them
Can we talk about how in a lot of these teen/Wattpad-esque romance movies the love interest that comes in the sequel to challenge our main couple's relationship is usually a man of color?? Usually a mixed race or lighter skinned POC so he's non threatening??
Wait a minute 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@withcindy racially motivated omg
Yes! It’s also in corny romance novels you can pick up at the grocery store. I know because my mom had a metric fuck ton of them in the house and I was broke and had no internet. The whole “oh the bipoc character who’s a little bit edgy but soulful came in and he’s going to be a part of this triangle before you go back to your white ass boring first choice” thing can be seen a mile off.
I didn't realize they made the third leg POC to make them non-threatening, I thought they wanted cheap diversity points. But wow, you're right. That's.... Really gross.
Right?? I'm so sick of it
They really missed the golden opportunity to call this movie "Even Taller Girl" or "Short Boy!"
Or the height difference 😂.
Dude….Hight Difference actually sounds like a dope title tho!
don't forget "2 Tall Girl"
Or just "Taller Girl"
SHORT KING
No. But Tall Girl could have been movie with nuances on how modern social media and the beauty industry creates body dysmorphia and terrifying anxieties where there were none, so that her huge speech in the first movie would have just incited reactions of "Huh? We never gave a shit that you were tall, we were just making fun of you the way friends make fun of each other in high school"
And then Tall Girl 2 would have been her grappling with this revelation that people may not really have been paying as much attention to her tallness as she thought and the realization that everyone else, including her seemingly successful sister, is also dealing with similar anxieties she has about her body.
Exactly especially when the lead girl had a difficult time on Dance Moms because of her height so it would have been more nuanced and believable to her experience
Yes that would have been so much better
You should've been the director
To be fair, teenagers can be excessively petty. So I could see most insults she received genuine digs at her just because the person making them wanted a reaction out of her.
I love this comment
Her anxiety is a definitely problem, but her main problem is that she doesn't have a desire for violence. When you're rich, white and tall, she can bonk all her bully and bonk her way into the role. If she does this, the movie is done within 15 minutes.
Exactly !!
Just pick up the short boy and use him like a hammer
pick the boy up and drop him on people like a wrecking ball
Violence IS the answer❤️
This movie definitely doesn't take place in Los Angeles
I love how Netflix is trying to blame us like "oh you said her problems were small, you asshole, now look". Like no? The main problem was she acted like she had the hardest life than anyone else and treated the people in her life like shit, as if the world revolved around her.
Truuuu
This reminded me of her signature quote in the first movie that's been rightfully made fun of repeatedly.
The white, blonde, conventionally attractive, wealthy main character with loving parents and a supportive significant other here: "You think your life is hard? I'm a high school junior wearing size 13 Nikes. *Men's* size 13 Nikes. Beat that!"
Yeah exactly! I'm the first person to say that people have their insecurities, their anxieties, and that we shouldn't dismiss their feelings because people have hardest lives. But then, she says things like "I wear size 13 Nikes. Men's size 13 Nikes. Beat that". And seriously, how do you not respond to that with "there are peopl with cancer, no home, who are killed for who they love", and so on? They bring that to themselves.
@@nanalove3819 poc
An unnecessary, dumb sequel to an even dumber movie that nobody asked for. Thanks for watching so that we don't have to, Cindy!
Ue welcome
And yet they cancelled spinning out I do not understand ???
well... someone has to suffer through this
GIRL WTH I FIND YOUR COMMENTS EVERYWHERE
This and Queens Who Like to Watch. Makes them more tolerable.
Okay but like the black friend always has the cutest hairstyles. Why wasn't she the main character. 😍😍😍😍😍
Yes she was super cute !!
cause she’s black lol
Ikr
Cos token minority 🤩
Queen cindy and her straight husband Ellias watching a short tale about a tall girl. The quality content i wake up for
Shorties watching a tall baddie
that dude and the milk crate had better chemistry throughout the movie than with the main character
Justice for the milk crate
I feel like blaming Stephanie Meyer for the more ethic/attractive second love interest who doesn't get the girl 😭😭
You know what, yes, you are right
and we should
Netflix really try to make a movie where the main problem is she's tall, pretty and rich. But won't give me a season 2 of Julie and the phantoms
the disrespect 😠😠
Here's an obligatory complaint for Santa Clarita Diet because I'll never be over it
They cancelled Julie 😭
I'm still pissed they canceled Patriot Act
And still no 2nd season for Spinning Out and Im Not Okay With This :(
I love this, because this way I don’t actually have to watch the movie😂
Our job here is done
I wasn't planning on it lol but I know at least once or two channels who suffered through part one and I was definitely waiting to see them watch part two so I could enjoy them suffering yet again. But lookie here Cindy and Elias came through to make my day better early 😂.
I’m so incredibly pissed that there is another, but I’m so glad Cindy made this video so I can laugh with her at this movie.
Don't do it. You saved yourself.
Same lmao, I was never planning to watch it, I'm glad I didn't have to go through all that
The way they could’ve actually talked about the problem tall women in theatre face such as being typecast as the mother figure, never being the romantic lead cause you’re too tall, etc. and shown this uglier side of the industry where things out fo your control can mean you have no career, and instead they just gave her the lead anyway??? I’m so confused
Edit: The director also would never have been cast as Kim, a young ingenue, not if she was taller than her counterpart
Period
Or how the school has such a competitive theater program that their first rehearsal looks like they're ready to go on stage, but somehow Jody, who's never been involved at all, gets cast as the lead?
they realised being tall wasn't that deep and gave her anxiety i can't
To be fair being canonically bullied for however long does give you anxiety
I love how they contrast about a girl being disappointed by her father and then Jodi being “my boyfriend broke with me up”
The juxtaposition 😌😌
Why are all the side characters so much more interesting than the main people we're supposed to be invested in. Is it just part of the netflix teen movie character checklist?
Yes
Maybe 😂😂
My theory is : they want the main character to be as average as possible to help identification. But by doing that, they remove all personality of this character, and so all the others become more interesting.
The milk crate better be a reccuring character, or I'm throwing hands.
It was a short lived character
@@withcindy you and elias were laughing. the most interesting character in the movie got crushed to death and you were laughing.
The milk crate's dead lmao
Warning Major Character Death
That saddest part is that the milk crate had only two days left until retirement.
My biggest disappointment with this franchise that she never responds to the "how's the weather up there?" joke by quipping "Forecast calls for rain" and then spitting in their face.
The actress who plays the mean girl is really giving her all despite this movie giving us nothing.
In fifteen years this movie is gonna be her "look we all start somewhere, don't bring it up" story that they pull out in interviews after she's moved up in her career
If the production company was really brave, they would've done tall girl 2 feet taller, and had the character learn stilt walking
Finally, a movie worth watching
Me: Being tempted to buy menstrual products because Cindy is promoting them.
Also me: Doesn't mestruate, doesn't even have a vagina.
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@@ashikjaman1940 ahahah
@@withcindy It’s also a great gift
It could be a hat?
Honestly, when can we get a teen movie where the main girl actually picks the second guy? We want drama.
See, if it turned out that, all this time, she's had undiagnosed anxiety disorder, hence latching onto innocuous things about herself and blowing them up in her head to the point of self-loathing, and the movie was about her learning to accept this and get help...well it would be a more serious film, but at least it would have A PLOT!
Oh so when a love interest in a movie swings his head over a bunk bed like Spider-Man it's quirky. But when I do it I'm "violating personal space" and "scary beyond all reason." Yeah, okay Netflix
😂😂😂
"That's how it is for all men. They're more attractive when they keep their mouth shut."
exactly, queen
I usually deal with my imposter syndrome with plain acceptance. Like so what if I didn't deserve this opportunity? I still got it, what you gonna do abt it huh? 🤨
I love how u deal with that LOL
Great idea.
Can confirm: anxiety can happen over the weirdest stuff. Aka, walking into your own kitchen. I've experienced that and good grief, it's the worst
I once got an anxiety attack over getting late to meet my mom. It wasn't even urgent and she didn't mind, yet I started crying and couldn't stop
@@billuraral1870 I wish anxiety was logical. I try my best to drive out bad thoughts, but when your body is screaming about the coming apocalypse and you're like WTF... man, it's so dumb and rough lol
@@brittanyg7700 haha...mood
Cindy, sacrificing herself again for the greater good, so that we don't have to go through it. She's a hero with no cape.
Also, the hair looking fire 😍
It's what I'm here for
nice tsukki pfp.
Rushed straight here to hear my favorite duo rip apart this outstandingly dumb and unnecessary piece of cinema
Hope u enjoyyyy
9:19 Cindy has some nerve clowning this man when we've watched a dozen cooking videos of hers 🤣🤣
I--
I'm not sure whether I should be appalled or overjoyed by the lack of "Pls step on me Mommy" in this movie.
Is it weird that I think this movie would be *so* much better if her being tall just didn't matter? Like, if instead of trying to push that being tall is this huge problem, it focused more on her self esteem issues and anxiety and how sometimes those things aren't caused by anything specific? If this was a movie about a girl who had a seemingly perfect life, but *still* suffered from these feelings of self doubt and hatred, I think that could have been such a poignant story. Because mental health issues don't discriminate. It seems like this movie threw in her poor mental state for shits and giggles, but they could have done a lot more with it and handled it much better.
Not even 10 seconds in and I'm already laughing😂 You and Ellias copying the cats was peak "friends sharing one brain cell" energy.
Both movies would have been better if they were actually ABOUT her anxiety instead of height.
Maybe in the first movie no one is actually bullying her for being tall, they're just occasionally making jokes about her height (but not in a mean spirited way); but every time she takes it personally and gets anxious. She manages to get over her obsession with height thanks to her friends and family's support and finally gets a boyfriend.
Then in the second movie her anxiety gets in the way again because of the school play and she ends up screwing over her relationship with milk crate guy.
If her anxiety was treated like an actual illness that gets in the way of her (otherwise perfect) life the story would be WAY more compelling and relatable.
One super fucked up thing about the movie is the other love interest’s backstory. He was “overweight” as a child so he just decided to be healthier then he was thin and buff so his life was better and he actually should be ashamed that he was fat as a kid and it is a bad thing that was in his control. Its absolutely disgusting and this movie makes me sick.
Huh?? His life was better because the bullying stopped
Yeah thats how excersize works. You workout you lose weight life gets better. Excersize is beneficial and should be encouraged
Fun fact! The Tall girl tab on AO3 has 5 fics in it as of right now. One is a shit post, one is straight, and the other three are gay
As someone with depression and severe anxiety I symphatized with Jody's self doubts that seem to stem from small things. I get it. Like when I take public transportation, a lot of times I worry throughout the journey whether I paid the fare correctly and am I respectful enough with other passengers, and is my behavior pleasant enough so I don't disturb others. This kind of things bother me. I tried to place myself in Jody's shoes, and I am sure that I'd feel that much (probs more severe) anxiety and self doubt like her. I don't want to invalidate irl people's feelings who relate with Jody's. It's just ... for movies or any piece of media, they can certainly go beyond when it comes to crafting a story hence, they have a great opportunity to write a story involving a character who represents people that needs more visibility and yet they still chose to make a story like many others that is centered around a rich beautiful white girl with a loving family, supportive boyfriend, and good friends.
Sorry for the bad english. Not my first language.
I don't think the problem is that she's privileged although it would be nice to have a minority main character (in all capacities, not rich, not white, not have a loving family) but that they write it so fake and don't dig deep enough into her problems or show it in a deeper sense to show them as problems so it's shallow and well to us, a non problem. I mean we have had "minority" main characters in Netflix rom coms (Lara Jean, that girl from he's all that who's supposed to be poor??) But they really never touch on the fact that they are a minority or the systematic problems that they face. Yeah, anxiety is a problem but all I see is the self doubts (I didn't watch the movie) but not the fear, the rapid heart beats, the nausea, the micro things that effect your life the most. I mean the self doubts are one of the things but it's not all of it and then where is this coming from? She doesn't have anything that would cause her anxiety or make her have anxiety besides being tall but they also don't show why her being tall would make her feel awkward or uncomfortable or not like in the spotlight except for the fact that she's bullied for it which ig sure (but I think she's only being called nicknames and then doesn't describe the body dismorphia of why being tall is bad and not conventional and instead goes for cheap nicknames like sasquatch) but also she kind of acts like this is the biggest problem in the world which it's not. Like anxiety is about small problems but it's about small problems that build up. Anxiety comes from somewhere I'm pretty sure, it doesn't just happen and then it makes you panic at the littlest thing and you don't know why. Jodie doesn't have any problems (at least not shown in the movie) though so it seems disingenuous (like it just doesnt make sense. Anxiety is fight or flight. What is she scared of?!!?).
@@despicablepenguin it is the problem
A SEQUEL TO "TALL GIRL"? What a treat💀Welp, anyways... thanks for taking one for the team
Of course
_"His face looks too young for her"_
I propose a spin-off of Tall Girl called "Not-As-Young-As-I-Look Guy." It's based on my life as a guy in his mid-20s who everyone thinks is a teenager. The story centers on me trying to buy a bottle of wine w/o getting suspicious looks.
The only good thing about this movie is the white girl using her privilege to uplift Farida. Good for her, she has a great fashion sense. Also it's pretty cool how the style department did seem to hire someone who can style black hair, hope this becomes a trend instead of these stupid movie premises.
they should have made her poor and maybe she would’ve been more “relatable” but no
not only is she’s white, blonde, conventionally attractive she is dang rich too, I don’t feel sorry for her 😂
Cindy and Jodi’s bf are so similar: angry at Jodi for the entirety of the movie, short asf, and having a S/O with the same hairstyle
Omg
It shouldve introduced a second, taller girl
Agreed
WAIT I WAS JOKING
Nah, they should've introduced a British tall girl and an evil tall girl and have a Vanessa Hudgens cameo
They have to battle for dominance, there can only be one tall girl
@@cambuck2231
And then they get toget-
i love how the writer put the whole summary of the first movie at the beginning because no one remembers this shit 😂
Exactly
Should have been titled "Tall Girl: Let's Heighten the Stakes." And the NEXT sequel should be "Short Girl"
as someone with several diagnosed anxiety disorders i didnt find this at all an accurate representation of anxiety... like some parts of it i guess? but she was just... cured?? great video y'all
This movie should have been called "Taller Girl" , and the inevitable 3rd film in the rom com trilogy be "Tallest Girl".
Honestly, im kind of pleasantly surprised by the musical angle? i remember when tall girl first came out and in my head i was trying to think of ways for jodie to have an *actual* problem that stems from her height.
i figured if she was a theater kid who tried out for romeo and Juliet or something, and they wanted a really petite & traditionally feminine girl to play the lead, and she gets cast as a side character or a male simply because of her height, then it would at least add a more realistic issue (since high schoolers dont really bully others for being tall, but it would make sense if they were like "youre too tall to be this role/youre taller than the male counterpart and we think that's weird" cause people actually do that more often irl.
Still not over the fact Netflix canceled Julie and the phantoms but made a Tall Girl 2 💀
I hate that they gave her anxiety and imposter syndrome rep bc on one hand those are totally valid things but on this friggin character? I cannot find an ounce of sympathy and understanding.
Romcoms (esp TEEN onesss) have no business having sequels and entire trilogies, like name ONE good sequel ?? Can they at least focus on another couple instead of the boring (if they aren't outright toxic) main couple
The way I can juxtapose their agony of only being 20 minutes into the movie to me sitting through my online classes.. Oh, wait, that’s parallelism my bad
Not u throwing shade at ellias
@@withcindy I learned from the best 😌
I lowkey wanted the short dude to end up with the swedish sister cause they actually more chemistry??? but I knew that wouldn't happen :(
That would've been kinda cute
Watching an unnecessary sequel is one thing. Watching Cindy react to and possibly rant about an unnecessary sequel is another, clearly superior option
"you know whats missing from this movie?"
"what"
"the disney fucking logo in the corner"
💀💀💀
Doesn’t it bother to someone else when Dunkan (The short guy I dont remember his name) is upset because the tall girl is more secure of herself? Like last year (in the movies timeline) she was bulied, she was sort of depressed, and really insecure. This current year she is finally more comfortable, has a lot of new friends, is finally content with her height. And still the boyfriend gets mad at that. For what we saw, they definetly hang out a lot, she never pushed him aside (Not talking about the kiss after the break up, a different topic). I just think that behavior is super toxic and manipulative as hell. You don’t get mad at your partner because they are doing better.
God he was annoying AF.
"Anxiety is really common," Why does the mom say this like she didn't believe in anxiety but now does because her kid has it 💀
as fun as it is to watch your reactions to these types of movies tall girl 2 really exemplifies the general frustration i have with teen media's gravitation towards trying to deal with Serious Topics TM such as bullying or anxiety that affect teenagers by whitewashing it down to the most palatable type of "struggle" ever
The anxiety rep we needed ❤️
The way I follow Sabrina Carpenter on all social medias (including being subscribed to her newsletter) and STILL didn't know she was in the sequel (or that the sequel was out at all... or that there WAS a sequel)
Did she not post about it?
@@withcindy She might have done an Instagram story for it or something, but she has a new single coming out Friday so if she did then it's buried beneath all the promo for that. Other than that, no
Cindy’s hair matching her shirt is pleasing my color theory eyeballs 💕💕💕
Hehehe 😉
I think it's reasonable for Jody to suffer from stage anxiety, but like, did that really justify an entire movie to be told? This movie should have focused on Swedish boy and pep-talk Black girl, who seemed to have way more chemistry and personality while also dealing with their own conflicts.
Sending lots of good vibes to you and Ellias for enduring these movies~
Omg yesss they could've named it Short Girl
Thank you for suffering for our entertainment, you’re braver than any us marine
Truly
i'm glad i was able to watch this entire movie in 18 and a half minutes ✨
Ur welcome
They could’ve made another season of Anne with an E, but they made a movie about a girl being upset cause she’s literally a normal height
"something coming-of-age teen movies almost never show is girls starting their period"
Carrie: _cha cha real smooth_
Omg a really tall pretty blonde girl got the lead in the the play I’m doing. She’s actually bullied relentles- oh wait no. She’s beautiful, sweet, perfect for the role, popular, and not oppressed because of your height. In conclusion WHAT IS THIS MOVIE???
Literally the only way I can watch this movie is if Cindy is constantly making fun of it, so thank you for your service!
It's what I'm here for
If Asians got even a quarter of the amount of encouragement this tall white lady is getting for A PLAY i think we'd truly take over the world.
If I were bullied for being tall then I’d go around terrorizing people with my height or maybe that’s it’s just me.
Thank you for watching it so no one else has to.
Also gotta love how they have that whole monologue questioning why her struggles are valid but then end up not actually tackling it in the movie itself lmao. Answering the question "how could you compare yourself to minorities and disenfranchised people" with "oh coz I have stage anxiety" sure is a choice
okay but i feel like the parts where she's overthinking and you can hear her inside her mind are kinda relatable as someone with chronic anxiety, i go through that kind of chaotic thinking a lot, it's exhausting
Ellias X Cindy movie reactions are always my favourite 🍿
We filmed lots more!!
@@withcindy THAT'S SO EXCITING 💫
I’d love a Mean Tall Girl movie where she’s popular and witty and the antagonist tries to make her “see” that her “only” asset is her looks but she beats them at like idk the Mathletes and just when the antagonist is like “you’re different 🥺” she gets a call confirming her contract with like a super high class modeling agency and she’s like “later loser 😘”
So I'll be the voice of dissent and say that a movie like this probably would have helped me as an anxiety-riddled kid. Anxiety is crippling and is blind to your socioeconomic status. Other people could say "wtf your life is perfect what's the problem?" but anxiety IS the problem. I get that there are other stories that deserve to be told not centered around a privileged white girl, but that's more of a meta critique than a critique specific to this story. I'm gonna go *real* broad for a second (sorry I know this is just a review of a dumb teen movie and doesn't deserve this level of scrutiny, but bear with me). I don't like the idea that we should curb our empathy for individuals just because of their demographics. I think twitter especially has a bad habit of dismissing people's individual struggles if they're not from an "oppressed enough" group, but it doesn't make sense because the whole point is that oppression is *systemic*, not individual. We can and should empathize with the individual regardless of their identity. I can even empathize with people who are "too pretty" as you joked about, because they never know if people like them for their personality or if they're being viewed as a trophy. In my mind, the way to fight oppression is not to reduce our empathy toward individuals from the dominant group, but to use political levers to change the systems that are actually causing oppression. That said, I can absolutely understand not having empathy for powerful people from the dominant group who are perpetuating systems of oppression.
I see where you coming from and I do believe that we should empathize with people regardless of background, I feel like what makes it so unbearable with the movie is how it frames the whole thing of Jodie being tall as her issue without showing any struggles that feel realistic enough, like sudden growth spurts makes you feel awkward in your body, heavier and its harder to coordinate your limbs, having to always stand at the back so you don't block the view for others or hunch over to talk with most people which leads to back problems, little stuff like that that may not be the biggest problem in the world but still feels real. Instead it goes for the usual no one ever liked me and everyone bullied me exclusively for this one thing, that makes the movie feel so unreal and fake. Also, the script is overall just really bad and the acting doesn't really help at all for most, and I think that's why so many people have it so much.
@@alexparra15 Not to mention we never see her invisible struggles with being a Tall Teen; it's not just towering over her peers, but Jodi would struggle to find clothes that are suited to her style that would fit her well, and going to a specialty shop when you're a teenager and you can't find ANYTHING that fits you like your friends/peers?
Constant assumptions of her interests due to her height. Not the stupid tall jokes but like 'oh you must be into basketball' or stuff like that; as you said, constantly hunching over or slouching to basically FIT into smaller places, forget about finding a comfortable seat anywhere. And yeah, these are all minor--but real. And as a teen she'd be focused on her own problems.
honestly, the reason why I made fun of this movie and her problems isn't because her anxiety is invalid because she's white. It's because her "anxiety" feels like it was added in to give her a "real" problem because the producers realized being tall isn't worth two entire movies. If this franchise focused on her anxiety and mental health issues from the get go, I think I would've appreciated it more.
Anyways so
Omg! That restaurant (Shogun) sent the most beautiful floral arrangement to my Dad’s funeral a few months ago. He went there regularly for nearly 30 years and they’d give him a gift card for Christmas every year. Really neat to see it in a movie, even this bad one 🤪😂😂
That restaurant looked cool!!
Whenever you're casted as the token minority in a Netflix film, you'll be my fav character. Get that coin! :D
I hope sooooo!!
To think this entire movie series happened because Abby Lee Miller bullied a girl because she was "too tall" for her dance team.
Elias checking at the 20 minute mark is what got me. We hadn't even made it half way through and he was done. Same
that girl really has no external problems but I get what it's like to have that voice in your head stopping you from enjoying even the smallest of things. her anxiety is still the only relatable thing about her though.
As a 'tall girl' myself, I cannot relate to this movie whatsoever.
I mean it's a movie so not really surprising.
Not u ignoring ur own representation ?!
“I would say I was going to the bathroom, but tip the candles and burn him alive in the house.” There’s that slytherin energy we love
I know these cheesy movies are funny to laugh at, but... A big BUT... This was the girl who was humiliated and kicked off of dance moms for being too tall!!!!!! It was absolutely heartbreaking! Who yells at a 12yo girl and kicks her off a dance team for being too tall????? This girl has obviously come through that and is still working hard screw that crap dance moms show!
All watch all her movies or shows just for support and show that stupid dance teacher being too anything is crap!
Yeah no hate to the actress at all!! It rly sucks that happened to her
The fact that they wrote and produced two whole movies where the only problem is that the girl is tall💀
You know the last minute of class where you're just waiting for the clock to tick so you can go home? That's what this movie reminded me of. Annoys you while you're waiting, but feels amazing when it's over.
Wish they'd made a romcom on her best friend and the guy instead of this. She had the cutest hair styles and was actually more interesting
Ellias’ hair looks so glorious and beautiful. A gorgeous lions mane
how one chick just went 'my dad doesn't care about my accomplishments and disappoints me every year' and she just starts talking about her breakup like hell no
No because as a theatre kid, I couldn't watch this. First rehearsal is *never* that put together. No one is singing and God *knows* there's no set. Usually we just do a read-through of the musical or play. So what was all *that*???
Ok but why did i never realize the dad from Diary of a Wimpy kid was a part of this mess??
The Zahn!!!!!!
I really wanted her to choose the other guy because I felt like kart guy didn't know who he was individually without her
I remember scrolling through tumblr and seeing the cast of Tall Girl 2 were answering questions there last week.
I never found out what to do with that information.
These reactions with Ellias do more good for the world than the entire police force.
I don't know if you know but Luke Eisner (who plays the bitchy swedish dude) actually has a band called VOILA and they're pretty good! their song "Therapy" found its way into one of my playlists a few months ago and I listened to it on repeat for 3 days, unaware that he's one of the musicians lol
I did not realize how much I needed this until I watched it. Thank you so much for this. I was on a depression spiral and just in my head and dealing with too heavy feelings. Watching this gave me my first genuine laugh today. Love you guys. Stay amazing!
Aww I'm so glad!!
im tall like jodie, when I watched the movie I felt kinda offended cause they make it seem like being tall is like a deformity...? like, seriously? kkkk being tall is pretty great I cannot imagine myself as a short person it would be super weird hahahah love ur channel Cindy, funny as always!
It's the synchronized yawning at 13:38 for me...
U can really sense how engaged we were
I'm not going to watch either of these movies, but is it possible that she had such a problem with being tall because she already had an anxiety disorder? I was the only trans person in my high school and being gawked at like a zoo animal definitely made me more anxious.
"My boyfriend and I broke up recently. He gave me these. It's probably one of the sweetest thing anyone has ever done for me."
One second later she throws them into the fire. Girl, you okay? ....But I guess they pulled them out again, so whatever
The singing and dancing is giving me traumatic flashbacks of Riverdale Heathers
But it's worse because I was actually in Bye Bye Birdie when I was 13 and its a wonderful memory. How dare you sully my memories Tall Girl
Omg ur Jodie from tall girl