This Car Won 1 Race, and it Changed F1 Forever
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Formula 1 likes to think of itself as the pinnacle of motorsport. It’s a great tagline but throughout the sport’s long history true technological innovation has seldom been met with a warm reception. And that makes sense, it is as much an entertainment as a sport at the end of the day. But what would a truly unique Formula 1 car look like? Who would dare be so bold? And How quickly would everyone else protest it into the history books? This is the story of the Brabham BT46B.
Edited by: JD Minny ( @jdminny )
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Video note: apologies for the apparent incorrect pronunciation of "Carlos Pace". Entirely my bad - unfortunate mistake.
I enjoy your video's and all, but your ad plug is kind of abrupt.. You should switch to your ad read's similarly to how race announcers do it.. quick summary of what just happened, and we'll be back after a word from our sponsors...
Just a suggestion. Keep up the good work.
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I don't know what status goes beyond being a "Legend" but Gordon Murray somehow achieved it. What's amazing about him outside his history designing F1 cars and all the innovations you can credit him with is how relatively humble he is with his own appraisal of various road cars, if a car is a very very good driving experience he rates it the same as one 100x its price.
Chaparral had a fan car 2 years before Murry ever put a fan on a f1 car.
You’d be fun at diner parties
@@robertstone9988that was included in the video ... ?
Ottobon: godro is a creep. Has repeatedly stolen other mens work and made the success his own. gordo did this repeatedly at mcClaren. Get real.
@@stephencurry8552 all my homies (don't) hate gordon
The Chaparral 2J was a work of genius which really awakened race car designers to the possibilities of downforce.
The first f1 car to s u c c it’s way to victory
11:30 there's a reason why lotus got pole. Brabham sent their cars out with full fuel
Its career blowed because of the fan
This car really blows
Infinite thumbs down, dad.
@@albow4oops5says generic username guy
*blew
Nah, it sucks.
F1 might as well be a one make series now.
10:36 holy crap that slip angle!!! Lol
Bro, your videos are pure CLASS ! Informational , overal esthetics ...music choice itself..well outspoken, especially for your young age...you dont miss a thing, sir. GOOD LUCK and thank you !
The first person to actually advertise Opera instead of GX
The skill to research good sources and make thumbnials like that is insane
Would love to see a McMurtury Sperling Fan Car Series! Motor Racing needs new ideas heading into the electrification era of auto-manufacuring
Agreed, I've been saying since it's debut that spec speirling would be (I think) an exciting watch.
Didn't Ecclestone told Lauda and Watson to dont put the car on pole so other rivals wouldn't suspect that it was that competitive?.
I mean, even Chaparral was struck down when they raced the 2J in the Can-Am series.
Fans that suck up the car to the ground are not well seen in any kind of motorsport.
PS Heresay are that they purposely did not push during qualy to hide their true potential.
Not hearsay. Gordon Murray has said, repeatedly, that Bernie had them qualify on full tanks. Niki Lauda said that they were doing their best to not get pole.
Glad you’re back love these vids
Keep posting stuff like this, ima watch all of em!
About the arrows in the thumbnails for the 2J and the 46B:
The side skirts are there to prevent air from entering the low pressure underbody.
Air should only (mostly) enter from the front end.
Even without space for tunnels.
yes, that is true. I found that hard to convey while keeping the thumbnail clear in every other aspect though. Having the front (intake) and rear (exhaust) visible at the same time and effectively visually communicating the vacuum element is difficult, I did the best I could!
Brilliant video, brilliant narration 👍😊 thank you!
The McCurty Spirling proves all of us right! Electric and fans combined = fast asf, but will we see it vs an F1 car on track?
gasoline shits on electric. make a 1 off, 1 of a kind gas car that doesnt have to follow emissions, give it a fan, and itll shit on the Mcmurtry
@@cerberus1166 who do electric cars make people foam like this
the shitstainslike yourself that want gasoline cars removed. @@kosmokat111
Is the advert piece a little hint that we'll soon be getting a video on the Mazda RX7 GTO? 🤔
Great video , Fan car is very cool
BT44 may have been the first GP car to really attempt ground effect (not counting Rudd's 1969 BRM project) with its under body "vanes"?
Thank you for this video! Excellent research and footage. 🙂 Carlos Reutermann (Sic.) quit Brabham because he could not understand why Eccelstone ditched the Ford engine after so much progress with it.
great video as usual
Cool video, as usual. I think Carlos Pace's last name is pronounced as 'Pache' though. 3:57
I was just gonna say....I believe you're right.
Yes that's my mistake, unfortunate error 😕 - I've added a note to the pinned comment
Yes you're right - entirely my mistake. I had heard it pronounced more like "Pass" before and foolishly didn't think to check.
Amazing video by the maestro
My favorite race car of all time.
A legendary car with some fun anecdotes around it
- Lauda and Watson actually qualified with full tanks and were advised to not go all out to conceal the car's true potential. Even during the race, Lauda later wrote in his book that he "played cat and mouse" with Andretti before overtaking him with absolute ease
- at least to my knowledge, the car wasn't outright banned after the Swedish Grand Prix. The CSI deemed it legal both before the race and after a reexamination following after the race. They did close the loophole, but only starting in 1979, so technically the car would have been legal for the rest of 1978. Andretti and others raised the mentioned safety concerns, but they were dismissed as well. We will never know the full truth of backstage discussions and what ultimately lead Ecclestone to withdraw the car, but the common conses is that he played the political long term game
- the car did actually compete in a second racing event. It was entered into a time trial at Donnington Park before the Swedish Gran Prix, where Watson ultimately finished 4th
- technically speaking, it is the most successful F1 car of all time, having a 100% win rate
I wasnt a car guy back then.... I thought it was a Jet powered F1
Well, it wouldn’t be too crazy to assume. In the late 60s there were several gas turbine indycars from Lotus and Shelby.
What a fascinating race car
One of the few times Bernie caved in to pressure. His career may have ended if he went forward with the fan car. Still, F-1 suffered the damage of boring spec cars and automaton drivers. Not the worst, but not the best case.
Ngl I like ur content
Yay new video
I’ve often thought about what the ideal race car would look like, with no limitations. People point out the Red Bull Gran Turismo, but I still think they were thinking inside the box, since open wheels cause more drag. Would it be a massively complicated body full of little details, or would it be a smoother design reminiscent of the Porsche Le Mans cars?
I'd say Murray's T.50 could be a pretty good race car as a base concept to develop on. Lightweight, streamlined, active aero utilizing ground effect. Maybe make the fan stronger, and you'd get something that can rip around corners barely slowing down, and still have high top speed since it has no overbody aero producing drag.
@@Appletank8 The design philosophy behind the T.50 was to make the ideal driver's car -- that is to say, the "purest" and best experience possible.
The ideal race car, if we're talking about being competitive, would be loaded with so many electronics, aids, and automated elements that it would be fundamentally different
Too many like to make it appear as though gordon Murray was an amazing genius. Fact is, gordon made it appear as though he singularly created several cars while at mcclaren. Murray threatened to sue, though never followed through as the truth would have come out. Enough deification of Murray. He designed some stuff that did well at the races. He was not the only designer who contributed.
The only thing greater than Gordons creativity is his ego
I would make a claim for rally cross and wrc in all Groups have given much more relevant technology and mechanical distribution to the road legal cars. What formula 1 tech do the everyday car for the average person actually use ?
70a F1 cars are glorious
What’s the name of the song at 3:29?
José Carlos Pace did the same as Gilles Villeneuve, he won the inaugural race at a track that went on to honor him with his name, which is fit for me since Pace is an unsung hero of Brazil
Honestly, they should have let this thing compete, is such a petty move to not let a new tech race just because you didn't came up with it first, all the great tech like this fan car, the williams active suspension, bmw decoupled suspension, etc all banned by BS
No way I literally live this car
😀
The problem apparently was the fan was the back of the car. Porsche put the fan on top of the engine, claiming it was for cooling. However, the cooling air, now heated from flowing over the engine, was ducted to pass out the back of the car. Hot air is less dense (has lower pressure). If the fan on the BT46B was a "movable aerodynamic device", so was the fan on the 917.
I have been blowed way by this video
Fanboys ruin everything!
Ima be honest that face was not what i expected to pair with that voice
Bernie is on record for saying that the BT46B Fan Car was not in fact banned but withdrawn. Because the team admitted that it would lead F1 to a dangerous future. Particularly with if the fan were to fail all downforce would be lost leading to horrendous high speed accidents.
As I say in the video Bernie had made an agreement with FOCA members to only compete in 4 races total (3 after Sweden) before voluntarily withdrawing the car. However the safety (and sporting) concerns lead to the governing body codifying a tightened ruleset that left the BT46B, along with any other potential fan car designs, outside of the legal limits of the sport. Yes he had agreed to withdraw the car, but it was actually banned before he did.
By this point Ecclestone was playing politics at more than a team level, and while knowing the exact truth of any backdoor dealings is near impossible, its worth remembering that Bernie was not an impartial spectator.
@@automobilistic Fair point! I just thought I’d mention it considering it has been say by others investigating this particular topic.
I hadn’t heard or read that the car was properly banned.
What my understanding from a Murray interview was that the FOCA organization was too important to give up over the 46B. Gordon was LIVID, but they withdrew it anyway.
Thanks for providing some new bits to this story I haven’t heard before 🎩🏁
Wasn't this also why the first ground effect F1 cars were banned? They generated massive downforce, but was 100% dependent on the side-skirts staying flat to the floor. Hit a bump at high speed while turning, goodbye low pressure, here comes the wall. The current ground effect rules force the teams to only use air to seal in the floor, which is leakier but also less binary.
So intruiging
they should unban it
Not to be pedantic, but it's pronounced Pah-chay. Great video though.
Ah that's embarrassing. I looked into it before recording but must've stumbled into an incorrect pronunciation. My bad 😕
And technically, Interlagos is the Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace.
Pace= Pah-Che.
Whut
The real winner was Colin Chapman.
Am I tweaking or is this actually a reupload?
nope, final version was only finished this morning lol
Who did enjoy this vid
Me
4:07 - I knew it, Joe Biden has always been the same age as he is today!
Not gonna lie, these open-ended question titles are getting kind of infuriating
Do you mean on my channel, or in general? Because of my last 20 videos only 3 have question titles lol
@automobilistic I wouldn't read into any of these early comments man. Not likely to be representative of what most people think
Same as the McMurtry fan car it's not a racecar that can race that fan will kick up so much dirt and rocks behind it nobody can't slipstream too dangerous for a racecar so McMurtry fans its not for future
You do know it has a filtration system so no big rocks and can get thrown right? Only fine dust makes it through.
@@NewBeginnings571 that's not what other teams were saying about the F1 fan car and dust is worse actually either way these fan cars will never race same as that box Indy car
@@jstewlly4747 I meant the McMurtry, it has the filters.
@@NewBeginnings571 cool but they will never race those cars hit a curb lost most DF
Bernie would have to be one of the best bullshit artists of the 20th century.
any racing series that squelches new ideas because the other teams lost that race, well, that's just smol-pp energy. "mommy, he beat me, and im mad." that's F1 in a nutshell. it's boring, always has been boring. when you can get an award for "the best overtake" for the year, that's just pathetic. most other racing series will have dozens if not over 100 leader overtakes in a single race. not F1. it's just terrible.
Dangerous. A sudden loss of downforce could have caused a catastrophic accident.
NOT banned! Withdrawn by the team owner (Bernie Ecclestone) for political reasons.
Please actually watch the video before commenting...
@@automobilistic oh, then you knew your provocative title was BS? That's what we call clickbait.
Nope, I explain the whole thing in the video - the car *WAS* banned. You clearly just didn't watch
@@automobilistic no it WASN'T banned. Brabham would have been allowed to run the car for the rest of that season. The rules were changed for the following season, which is not the same as banning something. And no, I don't want to watch your video with its inaccurate clickbait title screen.
@@zounds13 wrong. Ecclestone agreed with the FOCA that the BT46B would be allowed to compete for 3 races after Sweden (4 total). However before it was able to complete even one of the 3 agreed further races the rules were tightened with immediate effect banning all fan car concepts. The BT46B was the only car to have competed in a race affected by the change.
This is all in the video.
If you genuinely believe the rule change was left to the following season, why didnt Brabham continue racing the 46B? It was faster than the standard 46, and FOCA cleared it for 3 more races. You say "political reasons" but the upshot of the FOCA politics was the 3 race agreement, an agreement Brabham was unable to take advantage of due to the intervention of the governing body.