Heckel 10k vs. Püchner vs. Walter

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2019
  • Play testing a Püchner Superior and Walter against my Heckel 10k.
    1) Im not in excerpt shape
    2) I used the bocals that came with the instruments
    3) One take only
    I play the Heckel then the Püchner then the Walter for each excerpt.
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ความคิดเห็น • 36

  • @thomasstone1363
    @thomasstone1363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    to my ears & taste I like the Heckel and Walter the most.

  • @lovermuzak
    @lovermuzak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the Heckel sounds the best out of the 3 instruments and seems the most consistent throughout the whole range of the instrument. I think the Walter was the next best and the Puchner was definitely the worst out of the three.

  • @patwade9249
    @patwade9249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They all sound amazing played by you, Kris!

  • @OMurchadha
    @OMurchadha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video; I love to see comparisons like this. All other factors aside, I thought the Puchner's high E sounded noticeably different, in a good way. At any rate, great playing.

  • @alessiabrancia3899
    @alessiabrancia3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is the intonation of the puchner a little bit flatter then the others instruments?

  • @anthonyaveray1324
    @anthonyaveray1324 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always very interesting. Can you include a Yamaha? I believe principals of BPO and Concertgebouw have played on them.

  • @-nar6624
    @-nar6624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it’s sad to see you not post as much anymore ;(

  • @noronha1514
    @noronha1514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The contraforte he catches up to the high fa?

  • @diezweizocken9700
    @diezweizocken9700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually good playing for him. I would agree with lot of the comments here that he sounds best on his heckel. But what would like to say is, that everyone sounds different on different instruments espacially if you are not used to play on one of them. For me it is no surprise that he is sounding the best on his heckel, because it is his own instrument. Heckel is a great brand but it is very hard to get a new one. The price is high and the waiting list is to long. You will not sound good on an instrument that you are able to buy. Try bassoons. Everyone is different there are so many good brands out there.

  • @bassoonistfromhell
    @bassoonistfromhell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    you gonna tease us just leaving that contra sitting there?

  • @bassoonwithaview
    @bassoonwithaview 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course you sound most comfortable on the Heckel but I assumed I would like the Puchner over the Walter, which definitely is not the case. There were even a few moments when it seemed like the Walter performed better than the Heckel. The Walter seems to enjoy a solid combination of response, roundness/characteristic tone, and clarity.

  • @pr1s0n3r849
    @pr1s0n3r849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know what song that is around the 1:40 marker? I find myself humming it.

    • @zachmillwood
      @zachmillwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Overture to Tannhauser

  • @bodefranklin1804
    @bodefranklin1804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you compare a moosmann with some of these, Please !🙂

  • @user-qb7qx2zt9k
    @user-qb7qx2zt9k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    heckel is the best

  • @Aa-vo9lf
    @Aa-vo9lf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Walter sounds like a 7 heckel

  • @scottbiggs8894
    @scottbiggs8894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What models of Püchner and Walter?

    • @alexalestareon695
      @alexalestareon695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think a Puchner model 6000/ superior. Because I don’t see the link from the Ab/Bb trill to the Bb lever. And I think Walter only makes one model. If it were a Kronwalt I think he would’ve specified.

  • @zachmillwood
    @zachmillwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beyond the subjective sound differences which are mitigated by TH-cam's compression engine anyway, I'm most curious about your experience playing these instruments. Of course assuming that all instruments are different, they are not played the same amount and therefore are in different conditions, and your personal comfort with your instrument aside....
    The Walter seemed the heaviest, but the Puchner surprised me here. Your 10k sounded more even than the other two, but the others had more low color in their sound. A toss up, perhaps, depending on the hall and ensemble.

    • @gregfaris6959
      @gregfaris6959 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point! A lot of the differences between instruments is not so much its intrinsic "sound", but the confidence and response it gives the player, allowing him/her to be their best.
      One of the things that's been happening with bassoons over the past few decades is that the walls of the instrument are getting thicker, making the instrument more resistant. It is in overcoming this resistance that many players feel they can develop better response. A beginner may find a 7000 series Heckel easier to play than a 14000 series, but orchestral players tend to favor the later series.

    • @zachmillwood
      @zachmillwood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregfaris6959 That has definitely been the case through time with Heckel up to (I may quote the wrong exact number, but it's around this) 13k, but supposedly the latest 16ks are finally lightening up. Bell makes an incredible, light, very facile instrument, especially his thin wall model.

  • @alexandrakellermann2933
    @alexandrakellermann2933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ich spiele nicht Gagott, aber der Puchner wäre mein Favorit

  • @tomcypher3864
    @tomcypher3864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For $35k they seem kinda off in the highs

  • @jason950216
    @jason950216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry to ask but where was the excerpt from at @4:16 ? Great playing!

    • @firebirdsogood
      @firebirdsogood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Berlioz Symphonie fantastique 4th movement

  • @fagocista1980
    @fagocista1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Walter has best intonation here especially second last solo highest register also rounded sound and all notes are same open, bright and rich sound. Puchner is the worst one here.

    • @TV-ql9qk
      @TV-ql9qk ปีที่แล้ว

      But too heavy oder? also to play a little

  • @Peter-gr8fj
    @Peter-gr8fj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:01
    0:26

  • @alexandrakellermann2933
    @alexandrakellermann2933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Und das Ding da ganz rechts?????

  • @lolshark99b49
    @lolshark99b49 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heckel still the king

  • @claudiog.nogueiras2323
    @claudiog.nogueiras2323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    please add a Fox....

  • @paolopalicalligaris
    @paolopalicalligaris ปีที่แล้ว

    The Püchner sound low in intonation

  • @moisandfrederic
    @moisandfrederic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pucner superior is the best !

  • @danielbeilman6498
    @danielbeilman6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Puchner, Walter, then the Heckel.

  • @alefuentes9058
    @alefuentes9058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Difinitivamente heckel superior pero el walter no se queda atras ! Puchner como simpre y su sonido opaco