I think you misunderstood the whole thing with Donkey Kong. That's actually Cranky Kong that was fighting Mario back in the day, so the DK Junior you see where Mario "was the villian" is actually DK as a child. You can confirm with this with the older DK games when you speak to Cranky.
Well the person in Donkey Kong who looks like Mario is actually his father. Also Cranky must have shared the the story to his son, same with Mario’s father.
@WALTER-lp3wu Exactly, they aren't the same Mario and DK we see back in the day, and their designs on the OG covers are not exactly like who they are now.
And Mario was rescuing Peach so she could turn the Toads back, They're only the ? Blocks in SMB1. Even If what the video said was true, why would they be in entirely different kingdoms like in SMB3 and Mario Wonder.
I don't think he said that, however.... _"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_ This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials.
Speaking of Nicobbq, I've entirely boycotted NicoBBQ over him assuming an enemy from Mario land being a burger, when in truth it's a spirit-possessed paper lantern, a Yokai from one of Japan's folktales. I forget the name of the Yokai, but I'm certain about my perception of that "enemy". I corrected him once in the comment, then he continues to make that mistake, so I corrected him again the same way, then refusing to watch him anymore. I cannot watch a guy who makes such assumptions of my culture and never learning from the mistake. Is it petty of me to come to that decision? Maybe, but it goes against what I see as what's right, to watch such a person like that still.
Yea I think it's pretty obvious that the original intent of the Mario character differed from what we have now. Still fun to phrase it as being our Mario for the video.
I'm still not sure if this is official but yes, that's how it is generally accepted. Wouldn't make the friendship less strange because in that situation it would be the son who is friends with Mario.
@@BlackFantasy470 cranky is current dk's grandfather but still makes sense because dk jr had to save him so some of that bad blood should have passed on
The opening cutscene to Donkey kong country heavily implies this, as Cranky plays the arcade donkey kong theme with the graters from that game before being interrupted by current dk.
In that Mario tennis scene. Mario was jealous that his brother won. Not because he was in the spotlight. Luigi doesn't get the spotlight because of Nintendo not because of Mario. Some of the old games aren't Mario. You can even see that one of them was wearing blue. Another thing the DK series is all jumbled up. As Mario was DK rival. You can take a look at how DK Jr was a Mario Kart character in the very first Mario Kart. Both sides made the characters look bad.
For real, older siblings get jealous of their younger siblings. Why would Mario be jealous of Luigi be different from something similar we all have with siblings?
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 I'm the oldest of me and my siblings, and I've never felt jealousy over them. I'm near incapable of the feeling of jealousy. I have far more patience and self control than pretty much anyone I know of and those I've seen. My mental fortitude is one of my strongest traits
_"Some of the old games aren't Mario. You can even see that one of them was wearing blue. "_ Incorrect it's always the same Mario. In the Encyclopedia it's established Mario has been through the events of Donkey Kong and other games like DK Hockey. It also states he used to be called Jumpman. In Odyssey the Classic Outfit is stated to be Mario's original outfit and to be disliked by the og DK. The Nintendo website mentions he used to wear this Classic Outfit as well. Btw Mario was never enemies with the Kongs.
@@Eris1987 There's a logical miscommunication that I want to point out with the first statement because you are reading what he is saying in the wrong context. He isn't saying that "Mario" is a *literal* different Mario in the past, he is saying that Nintendo back in the days influenced Mario's actions a lot more through the norms set back in the 80's and 90's for what people typically were into or liked to behave as. Thus, making the argument of pointing out Mario's *REALLY OLD* games a meek point because it wasn't today's Mario. He is, *as a character, as a GOAL for Nintendo as a company,* a "different" Mario. Mario, as a character, is not the same Mario as in the old days because nowadays Mario is a character with a personality that has established several links to other major characters in the franchise. This is in contrast to the very old games, where Mario mostly adapted his behaviour based on the audience Nintendo was trying to advertise to. In this sense, even though it doesn't really read off the tounge that well, in the old games, Mario wasn't Mario. Mario was *Nintendo.* Saying Mario is "evil" or alluding to be, even *if* those actions were *canonically correct* (which you have pointed out in several replies to not be the case), it *still* would be a null and void point to make because Mario wasn't his own character, he was rapidly changing based on Nintendo's idea of the gamer crowd they were desperately trying to advertise to. You can also see this in advertisements of games in the retro era of Nintendo too. So yeah, in a sense, it wasn't the *same* Mario but not in the sense that the same plumber that was jumping over barrels to save a random 8/10 from Brooklin from an ape nestling on the construction site of a New York City skyscraper, *wasn't* the same middle aged plumber that in the very near future is fighting against and alongside humanoid creatures, designed around themes surrounding the concept of electrical engineering, in a mythical realm accessed by having a strong enough bond with his slightly taller green brother, that they need to traverse on a ship made out of rocks and sand, *AND THEIR SPIKEY SHELLED ARCHNEMESIS FOR OVER 40 YEARS SOMEHOW ACCESSED TOO* (dunno which lacky of his got a little freaky with him), but because *WHAT Mario was trying to BE* was massively different. Edit: Sorry for trying to sound rude btw. And yes, some of the later parts in this comment are hyperbole (or playing in on a common joke) for the sake of being funny and aren't canon depictions. No need to correct me, I know what's actually right and took my sweet time reading several official wiki's of this franchise to back them up. The short tl;dr of this whole thing is that the commentor is not saying we are experiencing different Mario's but different *interpretations* of Mario, with the most looked-at in this video describing an era of Mario where he didn't really *have* a full-on personality but was just marketing man number one billion and was just trying to appease to the crowd that played videogames a lot, much like any other videogame company in the 80's and 90's. It's kind of like how people were apologists for certain antagonists of anti-smoking commercials back in the early 2010's on the internet. Its basically the same thing as trying to portray an interpretation of a fictional character as evil when the intent of him being portrayed that way wasn't genuine but just an exaggerated stereotype to appeal to as much people as possible for marketing/business reasons. Which is what the original commentor is pointing out as the exact problem with this video if it was meant to be taken seriously.
I know, Mario is a good brother! He may had step on Luigi's foot in Mario Power Tennis yet nobody calls Luigi a jerk for jumping on Mario in the title intro of Super Mario Bros 3 or laughing at him after saving him in Luigi's Mansion. Speaking of which, the sequels showed Mario being proud of Luigi for saving him.
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 exactly, it's called sibiling rivalry, people who thinks "Mario is a bad brother to Luigi" just don't get the concept. Remember in the Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 episode? "Oh Brother!" Like Mario said "Brothers! You can't live with 'em, you can't live without 'em!"
ever notice that whenever mario isn't the star, luigi gets rich? luigi's mansion, mario is missing, and even making bank in mario odyssey's balloon-hunt dlc. guess plumbing wasn't paying he bills.
Bro didn't realize the comics aren't cannon lol edit: also about the brick thing I think it might just be the bricks with coins in them edit: ok Paper Luigi and normal Luigi are two different people and while normal Luigi respects he's brother paper Luigi doesn't and he actually dislikes his brother until super paper Mario where he actually becomes close to him because what happens to him in that game edit: @Eris in the reply box explains the hole toad thing better and a lot more accurate then me so if you want a more accurate answer for the toads turning into bricks check my reply box for this comment Edit: also one more thing is that in Luigis mansion the dark moon Mario helps Luigi realize that Luigi helped him instead of Mario helping Luigi
Fr _"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_ This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials. They are the same person. If you read Paper Luigi's diary he mentions how much he cares for Mario. Luigi does go on quite a few adventures SMB, SMB3, SMB2USA, SMB2LL, BSSMUSA, SMW, etc. It's established in PM64 that Luigi is staying home to watch the house. TTYD while Mario is away Luigi goes on his own adventure to aid another Kingdom that needed help.
@@a_craftermc There is 2 Paper Luigi's. One from an alternate universe who hasn't been through the events of Inside Story and most notably Sticker Star The other is a Luigi who has been through the events of Inside Story and probably Sticker Star. Mario has been through the events of the Paper Mario games as established by existence of characters like the Koopatrol and Star Spirits in the main world. By characters like King Goomboss whose existence rely on PM64's events having happened in the main world. Mario having been said to take on a paper form in a bunch of interviews. This is similar to the pixel form Mario can take on. And the Paper Block from the Blocks of Nostalgia being stated to be one of Mario's past adventures aka Paper Mario or PM64.
Geez Louise, Infinite Bits can't catch a break. This is just a fun video, nothing more, nothing less. We know that it's "fake" or "non-cannon" but can't we have a little fun every once in a while? Great video Infinite Bits!
also most of these points could apply to other characters as well. they're all sore losers in their animations and they've all killed enemies before (including luigi mind you)
@@PeachyCatty You can clearly tell how the Mario fanbase show their favoritismo with Luigi. They called Mario a "bad brother" because he step on Luigi's foot in Mario Power Tennis, but older siblings get jealous of their younger siblings in general. Besides, Luigi jumped on Mario in the title intro of Super Mario Bros 3 and laugh at him in the ending of Luigi's Mansion and yet nobody calls him a "bad brother" I may prefer Luigi but I still love Mario. I'm so sick of this whole "Mario = lame, Luigi = Cool" bait, both brothers desevered to be equaly loved.
It’s probably a joke, because he purposely left out the part where Wario was attacking Mario with all sorts of obstacles before Mario trolled him again.
Not his wife, someone else's (& AFAIK, her name was Teresa, which is why the Boo is called that in the Japanese version). But yeah, he takes lots of IRL inspiration into his games.
most of this is misinformation, mario and luigi are not rivals they are close brothers and friends. this has been seen multiple times in the games and in the recent movie. mario was just acting like an older brother when he stepped on his foot, all brothers do things like that. that probably wasn’t mario who treated donkey kong like that, it was jumpman who is believed to be a different person from mario. if mario did do those things to donkey kong, it was because donkey kong kidnapped pauline and he had a reason to cage him and donkey kong junior. they are dangerous wild animals who could hurt even more people. he kinda deserved the laughing and pointing that mario gave him for the bad things he did. in super mario world mario points, he does not punch yoshi. they originally intended for him to punch yoshi, but they changed it to him pointing because it was out of character for mario. this was explained later in that interview. mario is not killing toads when he breaks bricks. later in the manual it explains that when mario hits the power blocks he is saving the toads and they reward him with power ups and coins in exchange. yes, he was pretty mean to wario in the comic i’ll give you that one. but I don’t believe mario had any bad intentions behind what he was doing to him, he was just trying to have fun and did it the wrong way.
Buddy, go outside. Jumpman is literally Mario, there’s video proof of that, and the movie is not canon. You’re either 12 or just on major copium taking this video so damn seriously
@@joomface yeah he is jumpman, i got that wrong but he had a reason for doing what he did to donkey kong. he’s a wild gorilla who wreaked havoc and kidnapped his girlfriend. he was a threat to the public and mario had to stop him. he caged him later to keep people safe. the movie not being canon does not matter. it’s still a representation of the characters and how they act in game. the mario and luigi series and the luigi’s mansion games proves that mario cares about luigi. mario has also saved luigi in the mainline games like super mario galaxy 1&2 and super mario 3d land.
@@danielcalk955 SAME! What is with all the hate for gaming’s most beloved character? Don’t listen to @joomface, he bullied my comment too. Keep doing what you’re doing.
Corrections: 6:23 but read the full thing it says "they will grant you a power for finding them" meaning it's only the blocks that help you. Also only an SMB1 thing retconed 8:30 1 it was cranky Kong at the end of the day 2 Mario was trying to tam Donkey Kong not going as far as to kill him (imagine being in New york and an Ape taller than a human causing problems what would you do) 9:05 that was a time where that was seen as entertainment and okay to show obviously they wouldn't show it now 12:44 who wouldn't do that to their siblings no but seriously, he was just joking around (Again these are corrections but some more info if you please)
Only the bricks in SMB that give rewards are Toads. The bricks that can be broken are just bricks, not Toads. And every game after that, they're just bricks.
4:58 Personally I side with Mario here, Mario trained Wario to be a great robber and even gave him the challenge of a competent sheriff such that he would learn to stay safe from higher authorities leading to Wario living a successful life full of riches.
1:44 What's wrong with the consumption of living beings that are running away from you as you try to eat them? Especially when they add 1 to your life counter.
bro don't realize that we control Mario and its not his fault and the Luigi one is typical brothers Mario mostly cares about his brother proof is in the Mario&Luigi games
first off, the comics aren't canon, the brick thing was fake, confirmed by miyamoto, and they said later in the interview that they changed it to mario pointing because they thought it was too violent, and that's not donkey kong, that's cranky kong, and who ever abused cranky kong is NOT mario. that is "jump man."
Correct I don't think so, but... _"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_ This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials. DK Snr. was not abused and wasn't even Mario's enemy. In addition it is Mario, the Encyclopedia states Mario has been through the events of games like DK and DK Hockey. Odyssey has the Classic Outfit stated to be Mario's OG Outfit and to be disliked by the OG DK. The website confirms this is the outfit Mario sued to wear. Etc. etc. etc.
The original donkey Kong game was made before Donkey Kong's circus, also back then Nintendo could get away with more like how they removed anything gambling related in remakes of games like the diamond and pearl remakes having no casino anymore.
In the 1-UP thing, why are there multiple Mario clones? Because when you said that you get a life from a Mario that previously died, there was never a Mario "clone" or whatever to begin with. It just doesn't make sense.
The thumbnail is true. One piece of promo for SM64 showed a dead Mario underground, with a 1-up mushroom growing out of his body. This represents the cycle of life and death, like the Ying-Yang. This represents how every time you fail you always get better, until you get to complete the level
You know what I thought? At the part where he was like "Mario stealst and never gives Luigi a chance". Luigi STILL writes about respect for Mario in Paper Mario... And i think i know why. Its not because Luigi respects him... But Mario TORTURES him off-screen and FORCES Luigi to write about respect for his brother, Mario... (But... i dont even know if this is true because it definetely isnt, but i thought of it...) And another thing! Why is Luigi so scared and shy of everything? Its because the trauma Mario got him! Everyday he got tortured by Mario, and never got the spotlight...
Bro Mario loves Luigi, they’re brothers of course they’ll be assholes to Eachother, Even though Mario is a great character with no bad intentions, he can still be an asshole and still be a good person. The comics have been said to not be canon, Jumpman is a different person from Mario, The Bricks thing was actually just made for story purposes, and even then if that’s fake, then they probably retconned it at one point.
Correct Correct Incorrect DK Snr. was not abused and wasn't even Mario's enemy. In addition it is Mario, the Encyclopedia states Mario has been through the events of games like DK and DK Hockey. Odyssey has the Classic Outfit stated to be Mario's OG Outfit and to be disliked by the OG DK. The website confirms this is the outfit Mario sued to wear. Etc. etc. etc. Incorrect, but... _"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_ This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials.
@@Eris1987 Oh damn, MB, I’m more of a Sonic nerd so I was just throwing what I knew, I heard Jumpman and Mario were separate characters, IG I was wrong, sorry
@@Lets-A-GoOkie-Dokie it's fine, there's a lot of misconceptions and myths out there about the Mario lore. So helping people out know what is and isn't lore is something I like to do.
Except that Luigi is never an asshole to Mario. He literally idolized his brother, and Mario is constantly an ass to him. Plus, that shit goes _way_ down in adulthood with normal siblings. Sure we might razz each other occasionally, but none of my siblings would crush my foot for finally winning at something.
@@Eris1987 outside of the Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi series, there really _isn't_ solid lore/continuity to the Mario franchise. Miyamoto, himself, likened them to classic cartoons where any given scenario can happen and they don't really affect each other. Which, of course, makes sense when you consider Donkey Kong's origins as a Popeye game. Plus, it doesn't make any sense within the greater Mario multiverse for modern DK to be different from the OG. Modern DK was one of the seven Star Children, which means he's the same age as Mario _and_ he's appeared alongside Jr. in _multiple_ spin-off games. Cranky being the OG may have been canonized in the DKC series, but it doesn't make sense in the main continuity, loose as it is.
11:41 Bob-ombs are participation rewards, everyone not in the top three gets them, but it only shows fourth place because the explosions were too much of a strain on the system for all the other players to get exploded at once in a single cutscene.
Correction, "manga" is meant to be pronounced as "Mahn-gah", not "MAN-gah" nor "Mang-gah", nor whatever you said trying to say that word. Seeing Japanese words get mispronounced in "English--fy" methods really annoys me. It goes against my sense of what's "right" to not correct people who makes that mistake. I'm actually Japanese, just that I mainly speak English. But I know the correct way to pronounce words that originate from Japan. Unlike the majority of those online, yourself included Alas, you probably will ignore this comment and continue to make this same mistake time and time again. I will fight to defend the language of my bloodline from those who commonly mispronounce words from it, even if my words fall on deaf ears
{Touri} Touri would point out that contemporary official art does have it as pointing for Yoshi to go instead of headbonking, so it seems like the change predates the game’s release and the original intent is more development trivia than an answer to what’s supposed to be happening in the final product.
Why people is hating on this so much? 😂 He doesnt say that any of this is true, he is just stating where he got this info and leaving it as theories. Its so cringe seeing people trying to correct him, or saying he is “ruining" the series. 😅 People like to be such clowns when they want.
Nothing about that was really scary to me first of all brothers are like that second of all every single enemy is Bowser’s minions and that’s pretty much it
I never considered Mario breaking blocks to be killing toads, because being turned into a block has killed them already. So it's more like Mario is destroying corpses. I don't think they can be turned back. So as long as they aren't sentient while being blocks, we're good.
But they did get turned back, the whole point of SMB1 is to save Peach so she can use her magic to restore the Mushroom Kingdom and it's people, and if you got turned into a frog that doesn't mean that all frogs were once humans
This is a joke, right? Mario, in my humble opinion, Would be this: Kind, Brave and fun, While he would tease time to time, he does it with no ill intent. Mario is a good person and that has been his character forever.
I think you misunderstood the whole thing with Donkey Kong. That's actually Cranky Kong that was fighting Mario back in the day, so the DK Junior you see where Mario "was the villian" is actually DK as a child.
You can confirm with this with the older DK games when you speak to Cranky.
Well the person in Donkey Kong who looks like Mario is actually his father. Also Cranky must have shared the the story to his son, same with Mario’s father.
No Mario you bullied your brother I'm so pissed off I will never play as you only I will play as Luigi
@WALTER-lp3wu Exactly, they aren't the same Mario and DK we see back in the day, and their designs on the OG covers are not exactly like who they are now.
"Mario mistreats Luigi!"
*Luigi's Mansion 2 and 3 would like to have a word to you*
So does Partner's in Time
@@Eris1987ESPECIALLY partners in time
I’m pretty sure the power tennis scene of Mario doing that was just him teasing Luigi just like a older brother would do
@@Glitchiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiithe teasing is just sibling behaviour
@@Eris1987 And paper mario
Huh... The brick one, Miyamoto said it was fake. It was just to make a story.
And the Yoshi one, plus in later games it is shown that he doesn't punch him/points
Yeah the manual even points out how they're supposed to be question mark blocks not actual brick blocks
And Mario was rescuing Peach so she could turn the Toads back, They're only the ? Blocks in SMB1. Even If what the video said was true, why would they be in entirely different kingdoms like in SMB3 and Mario Wonder.
And even if it was true that bricks have toads in them I like to think Mario is freeing them
I don't think he said that, however....
_"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_
This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials.
poor miyamoto for being attack by the dog🥺
Nicobbq's Mario is NOT a hero - 2024 edition
Speaking of Nicobbq, I've entirely boycotted NicoBBQ over him assuming an enemy from Mario land being a burger, when in truth it's a spirit-possessed paper lantern, a Yokai from one of Japan's folktales. I forget the name of the Yokai, but I'm certain about my perception of that "enemy". I corrected him once in the comment, then he continues to make that mistake, so I corrected him again the same way, then refusing to watch him anymore. I cannot watch a guy who makes such assumptions of my culture and never learning from the mistake. Is it petty of me to come to that decision? Maybe, but it goes against what I see as what's right, to watch such a person like that still.
Basically
@@zigazav1 which videos were those?
😂 I wish Nicobbq makes another one again
@@zigazav1Dawg, that should be the least of your worries
After watching the whole video I can confidently say:
No I pretty see Mario the same as I used to
I think u already sees Mario like this so it’s the same after watching this video
Can't wait for people to call this video FAKE and call out every single mistake instead of actually having fun watching the video 🙂
Yea I think it's pretty obvious that the original intent of the Mario character differed from what we have now. Still fun to phrase it as being our Mario for the video.
@@healthyminds9279none of thus was true back then.
Isn't 8 bit donkey kong, cranky kong?
I'm still not sure if this is official but yes, that's how it is generally accepted. Wouldn't make the friendship less strange because in that situation it would be the son who is friends with Mario.
@@BlackFantasy470 just looked it up, the Mario wiki said he was but we don't know if it's actually official
@@BlackFantasy470 cranky is current dk's grandfather but still makes sense because dk jr had to save him so some of that bad blood should have passed on
The opening cutscene to Donkey kong country heavily implies this, as Cranky plays the arcade donkey kong theme with the graters from that game before being interrupted by current dk.
Yes
Wait… Since you are Mario… Are YOU torturing everyone? Cuz you can decide to NOT kill Goombas and Koopas
Pacifist or genocide moment
@@MattJF21undertale
@@randomdandysworldfan5247 yes
In that Mario tennis scene. Mario was jealous that his brother won. Not because he was in the spotlight. Luigi doesn't get the spotlight because of Nintendo not because of Mario. Some of the old games aren't Mario. You can even see that one of them was wearing blue.
Another thing the DK series is all jumbled up. As Mario was DK rival. You can take a look at how DK Jr was a Mario Kart character in the very first Mario Kart. Both sides made the characters look bad.
For real, older siblings get jealous of their younger siblings. Why would Mario be jealous of Luigi be different from something similar we all have with siblings?
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 I'm the oldest of me and my siblings, and I've never felt jealousy over them. I'm near incapable of the feeling of jealousy. I have far more patience and self control than pretty much anyone I know of and those I've seen. My mental fortitude is one of my strongest traits
_"Some of the old games aren't Mario. You can even see that one of them was wearing blue. "_
Incorrect it's always the same Mario.
In the Encyclopedia it's established Mario has been through the events of Donkey Kong and other games like DK Hockey. It also states he used to be called Jumpman.
In Odyssey the Classic Outfit is stated to be Mario's original outfit and to be disliked by the og DK.
The Nintendo website mentions he used to wear this Classic Outfit as well.
Btw Mario was never enemies with the Kongs.
@@zigazav1 im an older brother and yeah, i sometimes get jealous of her, but not a lot. i guess it's only with certain siblings
@@Eris1987 There's a logical miscommunication that I want to point out with the first statement because you are reading what he is saying in the wrong context. He isn't saying that "Mario" is a *literal* different Mario in the past, he is saying that Nintendo back in the days influenced Mario's actions a lot more through the norms set back in the 80's and 90's for what people typically were into or liked to behave as.
Thus, making the argument of pointing out Mario's *REALLY OLD* games a meek point because it wasn't today's Mario.
He is, *as a character, as a GOAL for Nintendo as a company,* a "different" Mario.
Mario, as a character, is not the same Mario as in the old days because nowadays Mario is a character with a personality that has established several links to other major characters in the franchise.
This is in contrast to the very old games, where Mario mostly adapted his behaviour based on the audience Nintendo was trying to advertise to.
In this sense, even though it doesn't really read off the tounge that well, in the old games,
Mario wasn't Mario.
Mario was *Nintendo.*
Saying Mario is "evil" or alluding to be, even *if* those actions were *canonically correct* (which you have pointed out in several replies to not be the case), it *still* would be a null and void point to make because Mario wasn't his own character, he was rapidly changing based on Nintendo's idea of the gamer crowd they were desperately trying to advertise to. You can also see this in advertisements of games in the retro era of Nintendo too.
So yeah, in a sense, it wasn't the *same* Mario but not in the sense that the same plumber that was jumping over barrels to save a random 8/10 from Brooklin from an ape nestling on the construction site of a New York City skyscraper,
*wasn't* the same middle aged plumber that in the very near future is fighting against and alongside humanoid creatures, designed around themes surrounding the concept of electrical engineering, in a mythical realm accessed by having a strong enough bond with his slightly taller green brother, that they need to traverse on a ship made out of rocks and sand, *AND THEIR SPIKEY SHELLED ARCHNEMESIS FOR OVER 40 YEARS SOMEHOW ACCESSED TOO* (dunno which lacky of his got a little freaky with him),
but because *WHAT Mario was trying to BE* was massively different.
Edit: Sorry for trying to sound rude btw. And yes, some of the later parts in this comment are hyperbole (or playing in on a common joke) for the sake of being funny and aren't canon depictions. No need to correct me, I know what's actually right and took my sweet time reading several official wiki's of this franchise to back them up.
The short tl;dr of this whole thing is that the commentor is not saying we are experiencing different Mario's but different *interpretations* of Mario, with the most looked-at in this video describing an era of Mario where he didn't really *have* a full-on personality but was just marketing man number one billion and was just trying to appease to the crowd that played videogames a lot, much like any other videogame company in the 80's and 90's.
It's kind of like how people were apologists for certain antagonists of anti-smoking commercials back in the early 2010's on the internet. Its basically the same thing as trying to portray an interpretation of a fictional character as evil when the intent of him being portrayed that way wasn't genuine but just an exaggerated stereotype to appeal to as much people as possible for marketing/business reasons.
Which is what the original commentor is pointing out as the exact problem with this video if it was meant to be taken seriously.
Bro thinks it's 2013 all over again! 💀
game hater
I know, Mario is a good brother! He may had step on Luigi's foot in Mario Power Tennis yet nobody calls Luigi a jerk for jumping on Mario in the title intro of Super Mario Bros 3 or laughing at him after saving him in Luigi's Mansion. Speaking of which, the sequels showed Mario being proud of Luigi for saving him.
@@eeveefennecfox Mario fan, not game hater
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 exactly, it's called sibiling rivalry, people who thinks "Mario is a bad brother to Luigi" just don't get the concept. Remember in the Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 episode? "Oh Brother!" Like Mario said "Brothers! You can't live with 'em, you can't live without 'em!"
didnt change how i see mario
It's even better
I've known most of these for awhile now
Me too
ever notice that whenever mario isn't the star, luigi gets rich? luigi's mansion, mario is missing, and even making bank in mario odyssey's balloon-hunt dlc. guess plumbing wasn't paying he bills.
It's incredible to think that beneath the colorful, whimsical exterior lies such a complex and sometimes disturbing backstory.
I thought you were actually mario
😭💔💩😡🤬
Bro has been watching too much Game Theory.
Ikr?! 🤣
Me too
Translate Ikr?! 🤣
@@EmanuelBonilla-rn4vvIt means “I know right”
"This video will change how you see the mario franchise"
*proceeds to tell information everyone already knows about*
but i didnt know
I didn't know all of it. Either way, it still certainly recontextualizes him.
WELL MAYBE SINCE IM A HUUUUUGGEE MARIO FAN I ALREADY KNOW THIS STUFF-
"Mario violently abusing DK" shows Mario a fair Distance away from DK clearly using it to control the enemies he's summoning
Making creatures with a magic whip.
Bro didn't realize the comics aren't cannon lol
edit: also about the brick thing I think it might just be the bricks with coins in them
edit: ok Paper Luigi and normal Luigi are two different people and while normal Luigi respects he's brother paper Luigi doesn't and he actually dislikes his brother until super paper Mario where he actually becomes close to him because what happens to him in that game
edit: @Eris in the reply box explains the hole toad thing better and a lot more accurate then me so if you want a more accurate answer for the toads turning into bricks check my reply box for this comment
Edit: also one more thing is that in Luigis mansion the dark moon Mario helps Luigi realize that Luigi helped him instead of Mario helping Luigi
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_"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_
This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials.
They are the same person.
If you read Paper Luigi's diary he mentions how much he cares for Mario.
Luigi does go on quite a few adventures SMB, SMB3, SMB2USA, SMB2LL, BSSMUSA, SMW, etc.
It's established in PM64 that Luigi is staying home to watch the house.
TTYD while Mario is away Luigi goes on his own adventure to aid another Kingdom that needed help.
@@Eris1987 Bro wrote a hole paragraph lol
@@Eris1987 Paper Luigi and Luigi is not the same person at was established in paper Jam
@@a_craftermc There is 2 Paper Luigi's.
One from an alternate universe who hasn't been through the events of Inside Story and most notably Sticker Star
The other is a Luigi who has been through the events of Inside Story and probably Sticker Star.
Mario has been through the events of the Paper Mario games as established by existence of characters like the Koopatrol and Star Spirits in the main world.
By characters like King Goomboss whose existence rely on PM64's events having happened in the main world.
Mario having been said to take on a paper form in a bunch of interviews. This is similar to the pixel form Mario can take on.
And the Paper Block from the Blocks of Nostalgia being stated to be one of Mario's past adventures aka Paper Mario or PM64.
@@Eris1987 Do you mean he becomes paper or he. is just paper thin?
Geez Louise, Infinite Bits can't catch a break. This is just a fun video, nothing more, nothing less. We know that it's "fake" or "non-cannon" but can't we have a little fun every once in a while? Great video Infinite Bits!
Matt Patt reincarnated?
Matt Patt reincarnated.
@@BluestonerEXwithout the art thievery
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"this video will change the way you see the mario series" and it's information we've known about for decades
also most of these points could apply to other characters as well. they're all sore losers in their animations and they've all killed enemies before (including luigi mind you)
@@PeachyCattyyeah..
@@PeachyCatty didnt miyamoto confirm that mario doesnt kill his enemies (except for probably the spinoffs like mario & luigi)
@@PeachyCatty You can clearly tell how the Mario fanbase show their favoritismo with Luigi. They called Mario a "bad brother" because he step on Luigi's foot in Mario Power Tennis, but older siblings get jealous of their younger siblings in general. Besides, Luigi jumped on Mario in the title intro of Super Mario Bros 3 and laugh at him in the ending of Luigi's Mansion and yet nobody calls him a "bad brother" I may prefer Luigi but I still love Mario. I'm so sick of this whole "Mario = lame, Luigi = Cool" bait, both brothers desevered to be equaly loved.
True most of what he said is well known misinformation.
i like how ppl taking this video seriously.
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We are?
@@Gordonjamesheneryproductions Look at the comments. You'll see a lot of people genuinely arguing his points.
Yeah, it's just as funny as the video tbh.
Basically all of this video is non-canon because it’s just a joke (I hope so)
Thinking about the brick block thing, does Mario even *know* that the bricks are toads?
It’s probably a joke, because he purposely left out the part where Wario was attacking Mario with all sorts of obstacles before Mario trolled him again.
No, it is not a joke. Mario is evil
It’s canon
@@Aplaysaharon9You know who else is not a joke and is evil
5:57 scariest part of the video
I love how you used the music from Dead Meat’s Kill Count videos for the first part of this video 👀
Extremely funny that Miyamoto's wife blew up on him about spending too much time at work and his response was to base a video game enemy on her
Not his wife, someone else's (& AFAIK, her name was Teresa, which is why the Boo is called that in the Japanese version). But yeah, he takes lots of IRL inspiration into his games.
most of this is misinformation, mario and luigi are not rivals they are close brothers and friends. this has been seen multiple times in the games and in the recent movie. mario was just acting like an older brother when he stepped on his foot, all brothers do things like that. that probably wasn’t mario who treated donkey kong like that, it was jumpman who is believed to be a different person from mario. if mario did do those things to donkey kong, it was because donkey kong kidnapped pauline and he had a reason to cage him and donkey kong junior. they are dangerous wild animals who could hurt even more people. he kinda deserved the laughing and pointing that mario gave him for the bad things he did. in super mario world mario points, he does not punch yoshi. they originally intended for him to punch yoshi, but they changed it to him pointing because it was out of character for mario. this was explained later in that interview. mario is not killing toads when he breaks bricks. later in the manual it explains that when mario hits the power blocks he is saving the toads and they reward him with power ups and coins in exchange. yes, he was pretty mean to wario in the comic i’ll give you that one. but I don’t believe mario had any bad intentions behind what he was doing to him, he was just trying to have fun and did it the wrong way.
Pretty sure this video supposed to be joke (or maybe i wrong)
Buddy, go outside. Jumpman is literally Mario, there’s video proof of that, and the movie is not canon. You’re either 12 or just on major copium taking this video so damn seriously
@@justkidcringe860 hopefully so, im sick of mario hate
@@joomface yeah he is jumpman, i got that wrong but he had a reason for doing what he did to donkey kong. he’s a wild gorilla who wreaked havoc and kidnapped his girlfriend. he was a threat to the public and mario had to stop him. he caged him later to keep people safe. the movie not being canon does not matter. it’s still a representation of the characters and how they act in game. the mario and luigi series and the luigi’s mansion games proves that mario cares about luigi. mario has also saved luigi in the mainline games like super mario galaxy 1&2 and super mario 3d land.
@@danielcalk955 SAME! What is with all the hate for gaming’s most beloved character? Don’t listen to @joomface, he bullied my comment too. Keep doing what you’re doing.
Corrections: 6:23 but read the full thing it says "they will grant you a power for finding them" meaning it's only the blocks that help you. Also only an SMB1 thing retconed
8:30 1 it was cranky Kong at the end of the day 2 Mario was trying to tam Donkey Kong not going as far as to kill him (imagine being in New york and an Ape taller than a human causing problems what would you do)
9:05 that was a time where that was seen as entertainment and okay to show obviously they wouldn't show it now
12:44 who wouldn't do that to their siblings no but seriously, he was just joking around
(Again these are corrections but some more info if you please)
You are so good at intros that I am gonna watch the full video even though I didn’t even mean to click on it.
WOAH, MULTIPLE CAMERAS
6:28 No Toads Only Become the Bricks That Cant be broken
12:27 "It's enough to make a grown man cry... and that's ok."
6:57 that's not donkey Kong that's cranky
Mario isnt hitting yoshi mario is pointing at at the direction of yoshi's tounge
Buddy I also saw it I used the,25 speed and he is pointing not punching
Not in mario wold.
@@micahdickens398Specificaly in Mario World.
@@Josue_S_6411 that what I said!
Did you even watch the video 🤦 Nintendo confirmed that Mario was hitting yoshi in an interview 0:56
I have that comic
The amount of people who act like he's seriously blaming a real person for murder is just crazy 😂😂😂
Only the bricks in SMB that give rewards are Toads. The bricks that can be broken are just bricks, not Toads.
And every game after that, they're just bricks.
12:45 Brother rivality. :)
4:58 Personally I side with Mario here, Mario trained Wario to be a great robber and even gave him the challenge of a competent sheriff such that he would learn to stay safe from higher authorities leading to Wario living a successful life full of riches.
1:44 What's wrong with the consumption of living beings that are running away from you as you try to eat them? Especially when they add 1 to your life counter.
Dude, you literally full on changed my perspective on mario
0:47 No he's not.
Yes
YES
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Ỵ̷̡̛̟̱̑̍̀̉̿̿̉Ě̵̢̧̛̦̼̜̲͕͕͍̤̙͉͓́̅͒̽̍̐͋͜͝️S̴̨̛͇̺͇͕̟̘͎̗͖̙͍̭̞͇̒͆̀͝ I̸̡̛̳͌̉͋͐͒̍T̶̢̧̨̝̺̺̿̑͆̀͋̎̅̓͘̕͝ I̸̡̛̳͌̉͋͐͒̍️S̴̨̛͇̺͇͕̟̘͎̗͖̙͍̭̞͇̒͆̀͝
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Blud forgot that the comics and the RPG’s aren’t canon
RPGs yes but comics no
regurgitated game theory slop.
Guys help I don't see him jumping anymore
Bro this guy really keeps me entertained and i don't get bored at all
i dont like that mario isnt that much with luigi but in the end of luigi's manion 2/dark moon it just has the best ending
no, mario is still red
yeah... when you said "don't believe me" and I heard the punching Yoshi theory, I said "Yup, this is fake."
bro don't realize that we control Mario and its not his fault and the Luigi one is typical brothers Mario mostly cares about his brother proof is in the Mario&Luigi games
I just remembered that if you collect a 1 up mushroom and you die, the mushroom respawns from the dead mario
I learned nothing new in this video
same lol
True, has a lot of misinformation.
On that we can all agree!
@@ElectricPikachu64 Sure
I always knew Mario had a dark side, but turning mushrooms into dead Marios? That’s some next-level spooky cooking! 🍄👻 Thanks for the wild ride!
Mario has no dark side
first off, the comics aren't canon, the brick thing was fake, confirmed by miyamoto, and they said later in the interview that they changed it to mario pointing because they thought it was too violent, and that's not donkey kong, that's cranky kong, and who ever abused cranky kong is NOT mario. that is "jump man."
Also, Mario does get jealous of Luigi, but he still loves his brother
Correct
I don't think so, but...
_"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_
This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials.
DK Snr. was not abused and wasn't even Mario's enemy.
In addition it is Mario, the Encyclopedia states Mario has been through the events of games like DK and DK Hockey.
Odyssey has the Classic Outfit stated to be Mario's OG Outfit and to be disliked by the OG DK.
The website confirms this is the outfit Mario sued to wear.
Etc. etc. etc.
The original donkey Kong game was made before Donkey Kong's circus, also back then Nintendo could get away with more like how they removed anything gambling related in remakes of games like the diamond and pearl remakes having no casino anymore.
Im italian and i can say that mario is better than the avarage italian man, so he is still a hero to me
🇮🇹🤌
More onto the topic of this video, I already knew about most of these "reveals" of Mario's true nature
Yeah all the well known misinfomation.
In the 1-UP thing, why are there multiple Mario clones? Because when you said that you get a life from a Mario that previously died, there was never a Mario "clone" or whatever to begin with. It just doesn't make sense.
good job. you uncovered secrets that was revealed 15 years ago... if not longer
7:24 fun fact that’s cranky Kong not donkey Kong
The thumbnail is true. One piece of promo for SM64 showed a dead Mario underground, with a 1-up mushroom growing out of his body. This represents the cycle of life and death, like the Ying-Yang. This represents how every time you fail you always get better, until you get to complete the level
You know what I thought? At the part where he was like "Mario stealst and never gives Luigi a chance". Luigi STILL writes about respect for Mario in Paper Mario... And i think i know why. Its not because Luigi respects him... But Mario TORTURES him off-screen and FORCES Luigi to write about respect for his brother, Mario... (But... i dont even know if this is true because it definetely isnt, but i thought of it...) And another thing! Why is Luigi so scared and shy of everything? Its because the trauma Mario got him! Everyday he got tortured by Mario, and never got the spotlight...
We're going to be hated with this one!!!!1!!1 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
We spreading misinformation with this one!!!1!!1!1 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bro I dgas, the games are fun and half of these are misunderstandings
@@kubo7553Bro idgas, this video is literally just for fun grow tf up
Why do people think if mario bullies luigi it's the worst thing in the world
THEY ARE SIBLINGS OF COURSE THEY MAKE FUN OF EACHOTHER
Plus, Mario was happy when Luigi saved him in Luigi's Mansion 2 and 3
Well it doesn't classify as bullying
Under 1 day squad:
👇(Not begging)
The Toads Turned Into ? Block Not Normal Brick Blocks
6:34Mario probably didn’t know that the toads were bricks
13:46 Kirby is a friendly little little psychopath as well.
I already knew most of these Mario secrets but it's nice to be re educated
Bro Mario loves Luigi, they’re brothers of course they’ll be assholes to Eachother, Even though Mario is a great character with no bad intentions, he can still be an asshole and still be a good person. The comics have been said to not be canon, Jumpman is a different person from Mario, The Bricks thing was actually just made for story purposes, and even then if that’s fake, then they probably retconned it at one point.
Correct
Correct
Incorrect
DK Snr. was not abused and wasn't even Mario's enemy.
In addition it is Mario, the Encyclopedia states Mario has been through the events of games like DK and DK Hockey.
Odyssey has the Classic Outfit stated to be Mario's OG Outfit and to be disliked by the OG DK.
The website confirms this is the outfit Mario sued to wear.
Etc. etc. etc.
Incorrect, but...
_"If you come across mushrooms(Toads) who have been turned into bricks or made invisible, they reward you by by giving you a power boost. With each boost Mario changes into a different, more powerful Mario, as shown below."_
This is the first game's explanation for power-ups, and only applies to the first game since Bowser doesn't do it again. All other blocks have been established to be constructed from various materials.
@@Eris1987 Oh damn, MB, I’m more of a Sonic nerd so I was just throwing what I knew, I heard Jumpman and Mario were separate characters, IG I was wrong, sorry
@@Lets-A-GoOkie-Dokie it's fine, there's a lot of misconceptions and myths out there about the Mario lore.
So helping people out know what is and isn't lore is something I like to do.
Except that Luigi is never an asshole to Mario. He literally idolized his brother, and Mario is constantly an ass to him. Plus, that shit goes _way_ down in adulthood with normal siblings. Sure we might razz each other occasionally, but none of my siblings would crush my foot for finally winning at something.
@@Eris1987 outside of the Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi series, there really _isn't_ solid lore/continuity to the Mario franchise. Miyamoto, himself, likened them to classic cartoons where any given scenario can happen and they don't really affect each other. Which, of course, makes sense when you consider Donkey Kong's origins as a Popeye game. Plus, it doesn't make any sense within the greater Mario multiverse for modern DK to be different from the OG. Modern DK was one of the seven Star Children, which means he's the same age as Mario _and_ he's appeared alongside Jr. in _multiple_ spin-off games. Cranky being the OG may have been canonized in the DKC series, but it doesn't make sense in the main continuity, loose as it is.
Wasn’t Mario also at the Diddy parties? There was bananas everywhere
Please do more! I’m entertained by all your videos!!
11:41 Bob-ombs are participation rewards, everyone not in the top three gets them, but it only shows fourth place because the explosions were too much of a strain on the system for all the other players to get exploded at once in a single cutscene.
Correction, "manga" is meant to be pronounced as "Mahn-gah", not "MAN-gah" nor "Mang-gah", nor whatever you said trying to say that word. Seeing Japanese words get mispronounced in "English--fy" methods really annoys me. It goes against my sense of what's "right" to not correct people who makes that mistake. I'm actually Japanese, just that I mainly speak English. But I know the correct way to pronounce words that originate from Japan. Unlike the majority of those online, yourself included Alas, you probably will ignore this comment and continue to make this same mistake time and time again. I will fight to defend the language of my bloodline from those who commonly mispronounce words from it, even if my words fall on deaf ears
It’s so sad that Yoshi saved Mario’s life when he was a baby and then yet Mario abuses yoshi..
I knew everything in this video.
You forgot why daisy is always left behind Mario is the won who always treat her fairy bad
You got the local kindergarten angry with this one, Bits!
joomface dont tell me you seriously believe this shit.. Also mario is for everyone. Its literally my special interest
Now when i play mario game ill think of this video 😂😮
Sorry that I was 8 days late
Don't worry, this video is just bad.
4:20 I’ve never heard him swear
this video sucks most of this stuff was revised/taken out of context
Indeed, almost all of it is just straight up misninformation.
{Touri} Touri would point out that contemporary official art does have it as pointing for Yoshi to go instead of headbonking, so it seems like the change predates the game’s release and the original intent is more development trivia than an answer to what’s supposed to be happening in the final product.
6:43 that is actually not donkey Kong and Mario it's Mario's dad and cranky Kong
I knew I should pick sonic
😢
Read the game manuel and Mario isn't punching yoshi Mario is pointing
Agreed, you can clearly see Mario's hand beside Yoshi's head and not above it.
That was Cranky Kong Mario has dealt with, not the current Donkey Kong.
Donkey Kong Was ALLWAYS friends with Mario..
JUMPMAN is the villain
5:10 Mario has good taste then.
Mario dint go too scool so that make sense.
Why people is hating on this so much? 😂 He doesnt say that any of this is true, he is just stating where he got this info and leaving it as theories. Its so cringe seeing people trying to correct him, or saying he is “ruining" the series. 😅 People like to be such clowns when they want.
I did not order a yappachino, clown 🤡
alt title: random nonsense thats non canon made for clicks, thats been done millions of times by other youtubers, etc,
I swear, pretty much every TH-cam uses the word "Cancelled" in the thumbnails nowadays
It was intended to be hitting Yoshi, but Miyamoto didn’t like it so he made the art and all future games have Mario pointing.
No, it was always pointing
Yeah@@kubo7553
It was scrapped in development and the quote used is a quote mine.
The sprites and official art show Mario pointing.
@@kubo7553buddy you forgot the interview
@@kubo7553bro
Nothing about that was really scary to me first of all brothers are like that second of all every single enemy is Bowser’s minions and that’s pretty much it
not true stop your lying infinite bits!
Shut up
You're so underrated
Not really, hes pretty well rated
I never considered Mario breaking blocks to be killing toads, because being turned into a block has killed them already. So it's more like Mario is destroying corpses. I don't think they can be turned back. So as long as they aren't sentient while being blocks, we're good.
But they did get turned back, the whole point of SMB1 is to save Peach so she can use her magic to restore the Mushroom Kingdom and it's people, and if you got turned into a frog that doesn't mean that all frogs were once humans
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10:08 Brilliant! Trauma gives the best inspiration.
This is a joke, right? Mario, in my humble opinion, Would be this: Kind, Brave and fun, While he would tease time to time, he does it with no ill intent. Mario is a good person and that has been his character forever.
Bro has become the next MatPat
He’s good he literally always cares for his brother and he littery Thanks his brother and hugs him
mario has always been a reliable character to everyone in the smb universe
Toads are only indestructeble blocks in smb1 no brick toads