2024 Toyota BZ4X AWD Review and Off-Road Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- We test the new Toyota electric on the street in the dirt. Does X-Mode really make a difference on the trail? Does Grip Control measure up to Toyota's legendary Crawl Control?
#toyota #subaru #offroad
CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
00:34 - Features
04:30 - Driving Impressions
10:13 - Off-Road Tests: X-Mode and Grip Control
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Modern cars - "I see you are in a high stress situation. Let me scream as loudly as possible, non-stop. Is your blood pressure raising yet? No? Ok, I will try high pitch screaming."
There's little modern about this car.
Hey Ryan, I love the transparency of your channel, you record the good and leave in the not so good, you have the best channel, I just don’t understand why you don’t have 1 million Subs but I’ll be here when you do reach that 1 million plateau!!
I love the fact that you show if it's possible for "car camping" in the vehicles you test. Please continue to do this in your following tests. :)
And legs torso proportionate never being left out. 😂
Your channel is the best car channels in all TH-cam. Thank you so much.
I’m fortunate in the sense that I have a Subaru Crosstrek and an EV for commuting. Recently went on a trip to the American southwest in the Subaru. Cruising the desert, exploring ghost towns, encountering soft sand and hard rocks, etc…the Subaru was the clear winner between which vehicle to take for the trip. Gas stations were already spread out and scarce, EV stations literally non existent. Love both of these vehicles but even Ray Charles can see that taking an EV off road just isn’t there yet outside of a purpose built recreational road park.
Which EV? Tesla vs others make a big difference in the chargers IMHO. I bet A rivian can go more places than any Subaru. It is a lot more $$ though.
I really like these tests of "soft-Roaders". Because I would never buy a full 4x4, but I do like to see which of the "Soft-Roaders" have reasonable rough dirt road capability.
Get a Subaru Outback. You will be much happier.
Wahoo... You added a sandpit, and I see it claimed it's first victim! lol... Thank you so much for doing this.
We also need to increase the size of the sandpit.
The alarms were stressing me out watching this.. I could just imagine how loud it was in the car. Good vid by the way.
Yeah, smaller battery, less resources needed, 220 miles realistic range - Toyota hit a sweet spot. Works for most consumers, including me and my family. Other than that, it’s just as solid as every Toyota.
I really enjoy your truthful and real-world rooted reviews. Thank you for all of the great content~
That thing went full melt down sequence! 🤣🚫☢️🤖 I'll stick to my gas powered Forester with xmode!
That Subaru awd system is good!! I wish Toyota would address the problems that’s holding this EV back like charging speed and range, even though I wouldn’t use all 220 miles unless I’m Driving to Los Angeles. I just love my gas vehicles so much lol
sad that this (and the Solterra twin) are (regulation) compliance vehicles; only designed to meet the requirement and nothing more or beyond the requirement. I'm not sure where these 2 cars will go or if they'll spawn an entire line (think VW I.D.), but it is clear the first effort was mediocre/Grade 'C' at best. Must do better...a lot bwtter.
This car seems like an early effort model that came late in the game. Slow charging and relatively short range are major negatives. The AWD system actually seems quite good, but who would take this car any distance off road?
Anyway, as always, yours is my favorite channel. Really look forward to your videos.
Always informative! More power! Would you be able to try a basic sr5 4runner ok you test field. Thanks
How good is the underbody protection/Battery? Have you seem people have hit the Hyundai IONIC 5 and battery replacement is 50K.
This actually looks pretty good for a Toyota IMO. But as usual, the competition offers so much more.
Great review.
Toyota: This is stylish EV on 20" wheels. You should drive it tarmac only.
Ryan: Let's take it our off road course. 🙂Great review as always. Greetings
Nice review ! Maybe in the future test out the new Turbomax Silverado 1500 Custom/ Custom Trailboss.
The thing i never hear mentioned is that many drivers, like me, only test the range on weekends and esp holidays when the charging stations have lines. I could deal with the range if I didn’t have to add an hour at the charging station to an already lousy 5 hr drive in heavy traffic.
The range would be fine for many if it could charge from 10-80% in 10 to 15 minutes. The issue is how crazy slow the charging is when the battery is cold or hot.
Rayan I love your videos and you are doing amazing job and have a wonderful day
This is the EV that Toyota made to prove that EV’s aren’t very good. Small battery, low range, slow charging, and ugly. When Toyota cares it will make a much better and more attractive EV, hopefully they can also make it competitive as there are other companies that already have very impressive EV’s. I own a Rav4 Prime and it’s great. I’d like to move on to an EV now. I’m not mad at Toyota, I’m just disappointed.
The BZ4X looks great and I like the cockpit design. The range is fine for 95 percent of the working stiffs and commuters especially if you can charge from home.
Already better than the cybertruck on the first offroad test
I cannot believe that Subaru signed off on the Solterra badged version of this.
No spare tire, no range to go anywhere, does not charge up to standard, goofy Toyota styling complete with mascara stains, a front air dam that is sure to get damaged in even mild off roading, that bizarre dashboard, that goofy split sunroof.
These things (Toyota badged version) have been going well below sticker price - when I was car shopping last fall they were offering about $10k below sticker. We can all see why.
BTW- no glove box, either.
Toyota made a good decision letting Subaru engineer the AWD. I believe if there were more ground clearance it would have made it out of the sand pit.
Also, a good reminder to always bring traction boards. 🙂
This answers everything I needed to know. Disappointing. Love your channel
This is the best car I’ve ever owned I honestly think it’s better than the tesla
How long it takes you to charge ?
I love the off-road feat
Ryan, you definitely hit the nail directly on the head. Although I think the BZ/Soltera are pretty nice cars, they, along with other EVs make sense for only a very specific buyer. And that is exactly what is holding back their sales. EVs are great, if you make a specific amount of money, drive under a specific amount of miles, have a specific amount of time to waste sitting at a charger, or have a specific amount of money to install a home charger and on and on. If the Government and manufacturers are going to keep pushing these vehicles they have a lot of work to do before they are accepted and practical for most people.
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Does it always have to make noise or is there a way to turn that off?
The milage bit here.. for me its not that 220 miles sounds bad... its that those numbers arent useful for highway speeds. My solterra range was closer to 130 miles at 78mph on the highway. Going slower would help but then I am the slig creating congestion.
Having two EVs now I say that the range anxiety shouldn't be an issue, especially with Teslas as chargers are everywhere. Getting flats and needing road side is a bigger problem due to these EVs being heavier and no spare tires. In my area during last yr I probably seen < 10 BZX. I see like 20 Tesla in less than 1 min on the road. If this car was like 30-35k, maybe you will see more people buy. Toyota is too late IMHO. Maybe they know something that I don't. Before anyone says I am Tesla fanboy, no I am not. I don't like them even though I have one. I still waiting to see what new 4 runner has to offer and then decide if I go with Lexus 550 or not.
How much can you rely on those eye hooks? I keep reading mixed opinions, yes, that's what they're for and only if you're not really stuck, just need to move a foot or two? How would you do it if it was 20 feet down a steep bank and needed to be pulled up? Maybe a video series on how each manufacture says how to accomplish such a feat. Starting with Subaru and Toyota.
God, what the f***k is going on with these prices from almost every car maker $50K here, starting $40 there, others use the word “game changer IT’S A BARGAIN only $100,000”. Apparently quietly, the real left over average American Joe in the real US world cost of living in US is being pushed out of the market to free off the streets 😭
no traction boards?
No doubt in my mind that you really test these cars Ryan😂
The bz4x is very popular here in costa rica
this is the best electric vehicle i have seen going thru your course. i have mixed feelings on the look. interior with piano black no thank you! my rav4 remove all the piano black on the outside and on the inside and I was so thankful. things seem very subtle in this vehicle from the interior and exterior and I like that. thanks for the look on this... what if this was made into the electric brother of the crosstrek, that would be something
If you can get your hands on a Model Y, it has an off road mode. It'd be interested to see how it could handle this course.
I think it would handle it great, right up to point where the wheels left the asphalt.
@@drivingsports You did off-road the Crown which has 5.8 inches. If anyone could test out a model Y properly it'd be you!
@@joelarson6884 fair point!
I like it except for the black fender flares. They should be the same body color.
Absolutely love this channel- but what’s the deal with the all seasons tires that seems to come as standard? Here in Sweden those tires are almost unheard of, reason is simple- they’re so bad they can’t be sold, almost no one here wants them. So why do they seem so common in the US?
1/2 our country is dry weather climate with mostly highway driving. They’re suitable for those conditions. The rest of us have to put up with that or buy better tires.
I run Summer performance tires 365 days a year here in California :P
the trim "Limited" says it all
Toyota BZ4X 🤔 Make the ground clearance a little higher, and this kind of failure will not happen in the Off-Road test. 😁
Toyota BZ4X and Subaru Solterra together Off-Road for a joint test.
The turns on your course seem too tight. Maybe consider widening them.
"Enjoy this montage of me getting this unstuck..........Hi Sweetie, I need help"
Nothing to do with the car, but it sucks to drive an EV in Germany (financially). If you dont have a solar roof you are paying 25ct. per kWh (assuming you need 20kWh for 100km it is 5€) and on public chargers you pay from 39ct up to 90ct and sometimes even a time fee.
I don't have solar and also don't have a home charger. So I go to public stations (~10€ / 100km) and literally have the same value (but more discomfort) than with a decent petrol car.
I am 100% sure that nobody will put a bZ4x thru that kind of ''soft abuse'' . Great review!
From a business perspective , could you justify putting better wheels and tires on a vehicle like this for your test? I feel like when you take a car with all-seasons onto roads like this, it’s more a test of what would happen if you ended up in a difficult situation with substandard equipment. Maybe you could turn around and sell the tires, or keep them for future vehicles they would fit on.
Manufacturers don't let us change tires on press loaners. (There are a few exceptions, but not enough for a standardized test.)
Not to mention your averaged sized behemoth drives with the wheel school bus style so they can roll out of the vehicle to exit.
How is 72 kWh small? The Niro gets 40 more miles out of 8less kWh.the Ionic six gets 100 more miles on 5 more kWh.
And the range anxiety is thrown in for free!😂
Lifting kit and off-roading tire
Rav4 basically
Wow the dishwasher got really mad!
Whoops. High centering can happen(and does)with any vehicle. Even lift kitted 4x4's. Which is why I find it odd to lift at all. Put some good skid plates on and challenge the trails. IF it gets too gnarly, drag it up and over with a winch and bobs your uncle. Have you seen the NEW Nissan Frontier Hardbody Edition yet? Sharp as sin. Cannot wait to see your review on it. I want ALL the details. lol
Can't help but think say 18 inch wheels with even mild AT tyres (like the Wilderness models) would make a significant difference. All in all, I reckon it did very well off-road, albeit the (recently new) final "sand-pit" test is very challenging cos the dips are so deep. The Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness with more advantageous ground clearance, tyres and wheel base, was nearing it limits in the sand-pit test, so I'm not surprised the BZ4x high-centred. Thanks for the very transparent review !
Likely better to test these cars in the snow. Not likely that these will be used in a dirt road like this one.
We test on snow as much as possible, but we’ve had a very mild winter this year and hardly any of the white stuff in the mountains.
I've honestly been pretty impressed by the bZ4X and Solterra twins. They've finally launched in my country this month, and they've been heavily marketing the Subaru version in particular.
The battery tech is certainly one place they could improve it however. Something more energy dense rather than simply making the battery bigger would be the right call, i think. - Incidentally, the bZ3 that's sold exclusively in China which this shares its platform with actually has BYD's blade LFP battery cells on board.
But besides that, they've got a solid first effort here. Dare i say… Subaru Solterra Wilderness?
Oh and, thank you for the video!!
Question is what happens if one runs out of juice out on the trails here? Extra gas canisters aren't doing anything....extra battery packs in the trunk? lol
Extension cord and a generator lol.
You just need a diesel generator to use WITH those fuel canisters you brought with you. 🫠
I ran into a guy with a dead Tesla at a CCS charger (he had a converter but he said his girlfriend took it out of the car for some reason.) He had to buy and extension cable from a store down the street and run it across the parking lot to a local bar that allowed him to use their socket. 🤷♂️
It's all about marketing. People buy similar gas-powered SUV/CUV so the automakers have to make something equivalent in an EV. However, no one is going into the wilderness with these things because you can't carry extra fuel. If you're getting stuck and working the drivetrain, you're going to burn through a lot of electrons. Now your range has dropped and you'll either not make it out or have to cut your trip short. Pure marketing aimed at certain buyers only.
Electric vehicles lose most of their range at highway speeds. It would be interesting to see some actual trail range tests since the speeds are relatively slow. I wouldn't be surprised to see the bZ4X go over 300 miles at trail speed (in mild weather), and that's way more trail than most people (and this soft-roader) can take. Most folks who can charge at home and want to take 100 mile round trips up in the hills and back will do fine with a vehicle like this. Long road trips would need substantial planning and patience. Note of course that for this car, "trail" or "up in the hills" = decent forest road at worst.
I wish I can buy one but mechanics in my country will ruin everything
52k is wayyy to much for that! Maybe 38k would make it palatable
Seems like a neat choice for a 2nd or 3rd car for a well-heeled buyer. But I think EVs could help the most if they were more like a 35mph electric golf cart with room for 2 people and binge at Costco or Sam's. 100 mile range would be plenty. Seems like this could work as a 2nd car in the $8-10K price range for many families.
It's electric, why the heck the don't make better control for slow crawl? It's just CONTROL not 2 speed transfer case, what is gonna take them another decade to figure things out? Bigger vehicles like Rivian really need it
Taking an electric car to off-road can end up in disaster. If the battery compartment get dented it can void the car guarantee and ending up in totaling the car. Not a good idea.
I've never actually seen any of these on the road.
You seemed like you were making fun of those of us that only have one car and use it for everything and can’t make sense of an electric car because of the limitations. Right now gas is the only option for me because I drive a lot including multiple yearly family road trips. I don’t expect an electric car to go across the country on a single charge but it like to make it a few hours before trying to find a charging station and hope it isn’t crowded. I’d be surprised if you only had an electric car for all your needs. I like your reviews but don’t understand your message on this one.
Ah, I remember when I was young enough to drive over 200 miles non-stop. Wait, no, actually I don't.
Funny. I guess I agree but I do it for the kids…even though they are glued to their iPads and sleep the rest of the time…
Something tells me that both Toyota and Honda know the EV push is not realistic. This pile and Honda’s GM venture tells me all I need to know.
Starting price of… next video please! Ouch!
Why's it so damn expensive? It's priced so high you are never going to make your money back on savings from electricity vs gas.
Dead until solid state battery comes
Honda Accord commercial before this video. 😜
BZ-POS never disappoints.
Why would anyone buy this thing?
Keeping my 2002 Subaru Forester S Sport with a manual gearbox
This car model had a bad karma from day 1st...
How?
One of the worst EV in history. Horriable range, extreame slow charge speed. You will spend more time at charging station than actually at road.
I’ve recently got to drive an EV vehicle recently for a good amount of time to say. “I’ll pass on EVs” they are absolutely atrocious when it comes to recharging like who in their right mind thinks it’s ok for these vehicles to charging 3 times a week with each charge time take anywhere between 40-60 minutes to fully charge and with a range of about 220 miles per charge. EVs are a noble concept but super inconvenient very expensive and not worth the change. Therefore put me down for burning gasoline for the rest of my life. Nature has a natural way to heal itself so I am certain the world’s environment will be fine. So “help the environment” ideology is definitely not a sales point.
Nature will only heal itself if we give it the urgent attention it needs…but
I agree most EVs are not a practical choice and it should be on the governments to regulate the large industries that produce the most pollution, not on individual consumers who buy the products from the industries to change their ways..
What is that noise!!!? It sounds like a horn is blowing the hole video....
Really impressive off road. Don't try that with any other of the popular EV's
I agree, it did pretty well, and I very much doubt you'd want to take any other current 'non-SUV passenger' EV near that last sand-pit test.
8:44 i prefer to pay for gas than to take out a long to replace the battery.😂😂😂
🎶Piano black, piano black, me-don’t-liking piano black, please-stop-with-this piano black. Because as-you-know, Pia-no-black-sucks-a**🎵
Stop, carmakers. Piano black, fake vents, fake exhausts, fake sounds, fake warranty (I’m looking at you Mitsubishi): stop with this nonsense. Stop. Just stop. No, no, NO: put that fake exhaust down. Bad, bad carmaker! Bad boy!
I’m fine, I promise. 😊
Curious, how so is Mitsubishi's warranty fake? They don't honor what they state?
@@seiph80 Exactly. 10 years sounds amazing, ain’t it? Until you read the small characters. You can easily google it, horror stories are piling up.
Range is horrible well under 200 in real world situations
I don’t think you should do it
Toyota sucks for electric traction... even if Subaru shared the code system, Toyota doesn't know how to copy/paste.
54k for a rather mediocre EV ? Toyota has lost the plot.
Rookie off-road mistake
I can’t believe the BZ hasn’t been cancelled yet, absolute trashpile of an EV
To me, everything about this car is a failure and I really hope people don’t buy it since it’ll be worth nothing in 2-3 years.
The design is just a big blob.
The gage cluster is horrible.
The range is a joke. Unless you wanna spend stupid money on a city car, this is a waste.
It’s also apparently not good off road either.
This is a transition vehicle and not something I’d ever consider buying.
Ok Ryan I like your channel but this is such a silly review. Who offloads this street ev. Common now.
It does have an off-road mode. So…
This is stupid. My Tacoma can make it without turn the 4wheel drive
Toyota/Lexus makes the worst EV on the market right now.
tesla model y, better, cheaper!
Subaru went downhill when it married Toyota. Mass produced major problems. What was once the most reliable is now overpriced junk 😢
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@@RRr-yl8zr🐣
Not completely junk yet, but you are probably right. Unfortunately 😔
Did I spell F-A-I-L correctly?
Nope
@@Gopinathk17F-A-I-L
Jeez.. they even called it X Mode? Didn’t even try to brand it? This is lazy on Toyotas part, the whole thing.
You spend the same amount of money in electricity as you do gas. I can fill a gas tank faster than I can charge a car and I can travel more miles with an f-150 with a 36 gallon tank for example.
At my house I pay .07-cents per kWh. So for about 200 miles of driving (conservatively) I pay less than $5 for an electric “fill up.” Nothing running petroleum will even get you close to 200 miles for $5.
@@drivingsportshere is over 25 cents per kwhr. No real savings for me.
@@LongIslandMoparsyikes!
@@drivingsports Yep. Highest utility rates and property taxes in the country.
@@drivingsportsUnfortunately, unless you're a courier or other very high milage user, you will never, and I do mean never recover the excess money you initially had to fork over to buy the EV to begin with, much less the cost of a new battery pack years down the road. 😉
I like how people make the “ they are more expensive, but you don’t have to by gas” argument. Cool. I spend roughly 35 bucks a week on gas,so when I can buy an EV for 140 bucks a month and go from 1/4 tank to full in under five minutes. Then it’s worth a conversation.
Ryan, please look at your target audience with your videos. Please do not preach the “Green New Deal” Agenda. As Americans, (free country) We should have the freedom to purchase the vehicle that we choose, not what the “Government” says is best for us. I love your channel and would hate to unsubscribe due to politics. Thank you Sir.
Amen
The people have generally spoken. We don’t want force fed EVs. They don’t talk about the grid strain and horrible depreciation with EVs. No one wants an EV off lease when you know the inevitable hit is coming when the battery replacement totals the car.
@@Lowbrass64 They are not as environmentally friendly as some want to make them out to be....
@@LongIslandMoparsAbsolutely
His audience is bound to be mostly new car shoppers, and various sources claim anywhere from 25 to 50% of them are at least curious about EVs. So I'd say he's got some rationale for producing some of this content. Some of those shoppers will even have use cases that will be very well-served by some of the available EVs. We're considering an EV for our next car, not because of the government or to save the planet, but because we prefer the luxury of having a torquey car with no turbo and no clunky drivetrain, and we have the ability to charge at home to meet all of our daily needs. I'm glad Ryan is showing such cars, to help us choose the best vehicle for our case that our freedom can buy.