I'm not sure if this is fully on topic with the video, but I wanted to share a story about a moment that I feel made me a generally smarter person. I was in a senior math class in high school. I was a senior at the time and pretty salty about that. There was a decision made in 6th grade that placed me in 7th grade math rather than 8th, which led to this. So, I had to take this class with the math-uninterested seniors and a handful of juniors. I felt that 3 of these juniors were smarter than me. Not because they got to skip and I didn't, though that was a factor, it was mostly just a vibe. Anyway, we were doing the homework after a lecture, as we usually did. I remember doing one question and getting "1" as my answer. I checked the back of the book and saw "-1" instead. I ran through the problem again was a simple, if tricky, order of operations mistake. I corrected it and moved on. The three smart juniors suddenly started talking about the question, conferring and finding that they had all answered "1." They checked the back of the book, like me, and found that... ...the book must be wrong. I won't lie, I was feeling pretty smart in that moment. Not only had I found out why that was the right answer, I'd gotten to the question before them! On top of that, I was conveniently ignoring the fact that I had ALSO made that mistake, which definitely helped me feel smart and smug. They, of course, confidently told the teacher that the book was wrong. Now, this man was a great teacher. He knew and loved his subject, he was enthusiastic about it, and he tried his best to make all his students think. So, he said, "Okay, let's go through it to be sure." This man painstakingly goes through each and every aspect of this problem, asking the three to answer even some of the very trivial addition in it. These kids were definitely frustrated, the most oustpoken one obviously thinking this was a waste of time, since they KNEW the answer in the book was wrong. Finally, he gets to the one part, the pesky order of operations issue he knew they all had. The kids answered wrong, paused, noticed what they did... ...and they rolled their eyes and started to change things in their homework, clearly frustrated the man had made them go through all that just to point out a little error. Not only had I managed to get the right answer when 3 smarter kids didn't, I had just watched them ignore and shrug off the wisdom of someone far smarter than them. I had grown up thinking of intelligence as an innate quality. I had a level others didn't; others had a level I didn't. But in that moment, I was "smarter" than them. It wasn't going faster, it wasn't even getting the right answer. All it was was humility and doubt. It was using that to check myself and ensure I was right. A thing I had done done for arbitrary reasons. On a different day, I'd have been right there with them. Being smart is so much more than knowing how to get the right answer. It's your approach to getting it. It's how you receive feedback. It's doing your best to be as provably right as possible before taking action. Most importantly, it's not necessarily an innate quality. It's a practice.
The idea that intelligence is innate is always frustrating. It manifested as devaluing the imput of "dumber" students and viewing "smarter" students as infallible and not human. I think because people assume people who seem "smart" or do well in a subject or activity must think the same way about themselves as others do about them that "smart" people are snobby by default. People assumed my thoughts and feelings to be negative simply because they thought I was "smart". I just wanted to be seen as a fellow human being, only to instead be deemed either an elitist enemy or a robot to only be interacted with for its utility like chatGPT.
@@SteppefordWife funnily enough reason for so many people to be so afraid of chat-gpt misleading people is that lack of intellectual humility of considering everything every known enough person wrote about theories etc and how it all eventually becomes just simply Hermeneutics which is basically just different languages for understanding/grasping more complex subjects.
@@SteppefordWife Bro this is so true, you get tagged as an annoying know it all if you always raise your hand and answer questions, legit frustrated me so much in school I even dropped out because of the bullying, i think its also a big thing in the black community, as a black guy people pull you down if you are doing well or are doing "nerdy" things, which is annoying, just pure crab mentality, i cant even have the humility OP talks about, because of how badly I was treated for literally going to school to learn, it made me feel like everyone was just insufferable, why treat someone so badly who isn't even interacting with you, legit just doing what the teacher is asking from me They saw me as a teacher's pet just because teacher's liked me. Some girl gossiped and called me annoying just because me and the teacher had a discussion about a certain question which no one in the class wanted to answer nor contribute to. They always say nothing so the lesson ends earlier. Worst part is white ppl treated me like that moreso than the blacks in my class
I appreciate my high school English teacher even more now. She spent a lot of time making sure we dissected UNCOMFORTABLE literature and movies. When one of my classmates complained she went into a rant about how being uncomfortable was part of life, and how ignorant were we that we could possibly live our lives without being uncomfortable. It was beautiful and I wish I’d filmed it.
I used to be annoyed at my teacher for "always searching for a critique of society" in the texts we were studying. I changed my mind. I get it now. Maybe she didn't even actually point it out enough. Thank you madam
mine did something a bit different. she had us draw the covers of our favorite books and explain why these were our favorite, along with giving a quick plot summary. she then proceeded to make straw man arguments about how mentor figures in our stories were predators, how our books encouraged murder, how our books were unintelligent…. and then threw our art in the trash can one by one. this was a great introduction into the social context behind the creation of fahrenheit 451, but was also just a very sound way to explain to freshman that the perceived “problematic” nature of a piece of art could often be attributed to the social context of an individual judging the work, and that sometimes, reading something someone else deemed “taboo” was worthwhile for the sake of knowledge and to fight censorship. i love high school english teachers. i mean i HATED some of mine but like, most were pretty damn good at their jobs
Not only that but there are some things that are SUPPOSED to make you feel uncomfortable, because that makes you an emotionally healthy human being. You are not supposed to feel good thinking about it, seeing it, or reading it.
I spent several months getting only three or four hours of sleep every night. Thinking became very, very difficult. I wonder how much stupidity is linked to chronic exhaustion.
Yes, I feel that. I was running on about four hours of sleep during my last years of school. And I kept up my grades okay but I really didn't feel well. Now that I have experienced having a good sleep schedule and getting my 7 1/2 hours each night it makes me wonder how much more I could have excelled academically if I just slept more. Or ever did my homework. In hindsight it puzzles me that I managed to graduated at all.
That's part of the war on the masses. If the masses have to work so hard and so many hours a day, just to survive, they will be exhausted physically and mentally and not have the resources (physical/mental) to fight those that oppress them.
I'm "smart" because my natural curiosity was cultivated by educators and adults around me. If a child is raised in an environment that doesn't respect learning, they will not respect learning, and they will not learn. People are stupid because, as a society, we tend to think of intelligence as an innate trait you're born with, which means if you aren't in the 1% of kids who has a natural talent for a particular academic subject then people are labelled as "not smart" and thus never learn how to learn. Everything from social skills to trivia are subjugated to our sociocultural values; niceness is not a virtue in a capitalist society: effective manipulation is.
Fatcs... as a former gifted kid, we always got the best encouragement. OF COURSE we became more educated overall than our peers. They don't actually cultivate intelligence in the general school population
@@PlatinumAltaria I love this perspective! Additionally, I believe that the capitalist education system tends to favour reinforcement towards “early bloomers” in the form of higher expectations and co-opting into competitions. Everyone else is placed in the (dis)array of learnt helplessness in the face of the ranks/hierarchies which get emphasised far more than learning itself (insanity!). I am eternally grateful to my modernism professor who helped me unlearn the dissonance between performing to learn and learning to perform. The only thing innate about us is perhaps truly just our curiosity. Some have just realized the meaning of that better than others, but that doesn’t imply any exclusivity or talent. Everyone just has their own journey~
it is more comforting to be smugly ignorant than confront the probability that your ignorance is actually harmful to yourself and others, and that you're actually just stupid. there's nothing wrong with being stupid, really. so long as you're not smug about it.
But ignorance is not stupidity - that's _willful_ ignorance. You can be uneducated and not stupid, and you can be ignorant and not stupid. Stupidity is a deliberate refusal to engage curiously
I was labeled 'gifted' kid and technically did well academically, but I only really started feeling like I had a better grasp on things as an adult when I came to terms with the fact that some things will go over my head. I don't have to understand everything, and I don't have to tear down concepts I don't understand so that they can appear simple. This ironically opened my mind up to a lot of things I would have otherwise rejected on the basis of not already knowing them.
Even though I also did not enjoy this kind of teaching in school, as an adult the idea of "the curtains are just blue" seems so silly because the writer did consciously decide to write it down. They weren't in some kund of fugue state where they were writing meaningless words for no reason. I think it's quite likely something like that wouldn't be some deep methaphor, but even if it's just to establish a vibe it can still be interesting to discuss why blue curtains were chosen for that vibe and what vibe that is. Even if it is literally just some filler words that add nothing, why did the writer feel the need to do that? Is it a stylistic choice? A way to control pacing? A sign of an insecure writer?
As an artist I can say you have a great point. Sometimes I draw something without a thought because it feels like it. So maybe sometimes blue curtains are blue because it felt 'right'. Sorry English is not my first language I don't know if I portrait my thoughts right
"death of the author" is cool but so is "the author put this here for a reason and it's the reader's job to interpret why they did that". an attentive audience is as much an artist as the creator(s) themselves. wish more people moved onto step 2 instead of using death of the author as a "it ain't that deep" cop-out
Having worked in a library, I’ve accepted that people don’t read signs or instructions. Regardless, I still believe they deserve access to good, quality information
It's true. People don't read signs or instructions. I have a theory that our lived environment is now so thoroughly polluted with advertising and propaganda that people reflexively reject all messaging out of self-preservation.
Totally agree! I actually wrote a phd thesis on the architecture of public libraries, which in no small part focused on signage and wayfinding 😂 It's called 'Preconception to Participation', if you fancy a scintillating read
Personally, its a library, theres a lot of information, from the book titels to the flyers on the wall. I learned to ignore them completely. Its noise in my eyes.
"If you still haven't relearned how to be polite to service workers or not disrupt the public that's a fucking SKILL ISSUE" Yeaaaahhhh say it LOUDER let it be HEARDDDD 🗣️📢
To be a Karen is a skill issue and lashing out on neurodivergent people is a skill issue, refusal to learn about other people and their issues is a skill issue.
one of the things i miss about university: the nearest cinema was a good twenty minute or more drive from campus. several of us (not everyone had a car) would go see a movie and then talk about it during the ride home. i wasn't a movie person until i met these friends. i thought this was normal, to discuss everything about the experience. then i went to acting school, saw films with other aspiring actors and sadly...little to no discussions. i missed it then, i miss it now.
Even when I do see discussions online, someone inevitably goes “It’s not that deep” or “It’s just a movie” as if they think people who create things are just on auto-pilot
“Muad'Dib learned rapidly because his first training was in how to learn. And the first lesson of all was the basic trust that he could learn. It's shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult. Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.” ― Frank Herbert, Dune
First of all: YES, BUSTED MENTIONED!!! Second: I'm a translator, I took a class where we had to translate a piece of media (be it a chapter of a book, a play, I chose subtitles for a show I really like that isn't out in Italy) and basically during class we just went there with questions about our translations, all of them in Italian so people wouldn't be biased by the foreign language if they knew it. I loved that class, we basically discussed every time about the most random things and interpretations of what we were bringing to it. Also, as a translator, it baffles me even more when people say that translators are not needed because now everything is "automatic" when without the human input, translations would just be a gibberish mess of connected words, but with no clear sense or message in them. So what I'm trying to say is: the spoonfeeding of stuff still doesn't allow people to actually understand what the message is, which is frustrating to say the least. Because then we have situations where jobs like mine are thought of as "not necessary" because surely a machine can do it! When, as I said, it's not true since the translator's job is to UNDERSTAND the meaning of the text by analysing it. Edit: sorry for the rant... also, welcome back!
Hell yes! I remember several translating courses where we translated a Dutch children's book into English, recipes, etc. Programs and algorithms don't know that unsalted butter in English is just butter in Dutch, the standard is always unsalted, you only specify if you need salted, or they don't understand that potvis en walvis in Dutch translate to whale and sperm whale in English and that that reads weirdly, and that you are better off making it blue whale and sperm whale or something, for better flow. One course description from another department was translated from Dutch to English by someone who wasn't great at English, and the description was... VERY hard to read. We had a very hard time to figure out which wrong translation they'd used and to try and reconstruct what they were actually trying to say. But the discussions about the children's book stayed with me, it was a very literary type of book, with lots of puns, metaphors, and double and deeper meanings etc, so very hard to translate something that conveys the same double meaning, and that's two languages that are actually fairly related, and even share a lot of sayings and metaphors. I can't imagine how hard it must be to translate between languages that are not related at all and keeping it readable, without constantly adding little asterisks with explanations and cultural associations etc.
As an intellectual, I spend a lot of my time wishing I were more like one of those people. They seem so much more content, in my anecdotal experience. I do feel like being intelligent is a disadvantage when you're poor and working class; at least where I live. I mean, intelligence isn't ever seen as an asset to dumber people, because they often don't have the capacity or desire to understand what you're trying to tell them. Pointing out a better way to do things that you came to think of by critically thinking about the work you're being paid to do is often seen as a nuisance in working class spaces, because "they aren't paying you to think". I remember when having a dispute once at a warehouse job where my brother and I both worked (because of the way we were raised, we both tend to be more critical thinkers than most), our supervisor got annoyed with my brother for using "big words" such as "vicinity" while trying to explain a concern to him. When you're an above-average intelligence person in working class spaces in modern day America, life often feels like a satire happening in real time. I think the people who just pump iron and work on cars probably have the right idea, because shutting your brain off seems to make it easier to have a stable life in our modern world. You kinda gotta be dumb to keep your head down and your mouth shut when every place you find yourself in is completely dysfunctional and disorderly.
I mean, there's a reason the phrase "ignorance is bliss" exists. and also there's a reason so many intelligent people are depressed and use drugs like weed to relax. @@zenleeparadise
Something I noticed in the recent boom of media (il)literacy discussion is how poorly school did at teaching me about it. Throughout high school english classes, the focus for me, and I suspect a lot of people, always took the form of how to find symbolism in a text, searching for answers instead of asking why the question was being posed in the first place. It never mattered why the curtains were blue, just how I could justify it because if you bothered to ask why, you weren't "properly" responding to the topic of the essay. The question, "When will we ever use this in real life?" gets asked a lot and I find that most answers tend to be some variation of "because." Whatever opinions you have about our school systems, things aren't just taught for no reason. Math is not just teaching math, it's teaching problem solving as a whole. Science teaches us to be curious about the world around us. And english teaches us how to analyze ANY information we receive. All of these things come up daily and it seems that "because" has become such a ubiquitous answer that even many teachers don't consider to question it.
Reflecting on myself, I really don't know which side of the Dunning-Kruger effect I fall on. Sometimes, I feel a sense of smug superiority and make arguments which, in hindsight, turn out to be comically wrong. But in other contexts, I say something perfectly sensible, yet cannot shake the feeling that it was "poorly expressed" or "not researched enough". I also oscillate wildly between feeling an uncontrollable urge to express my opinions (even when they're not very informed), and being so anxious about expressing myself that I second-guess, redraft and workshop even simple messages. On some days, I think to myself "you're a smart guy. Your essays are pretty good". On most days, I think "smart? You don't know a thing about the real world. You haven't worked a day in your life, you have zero discipline. When was the last time you actually read an academic paper start-to-finish? You wouldn't know how to fix a door handle if it broke". It feels like being in limbo, stuck between "kinda smart" and "extremely stupid". And it's not about encyclopedic knowledge, it's about clarity of mind, which I barely ever have.
dear god this is so me, ive spent so much time obsessing over not being able to think clearly and every single day i just feel like im getting dumber and dumber. a weird kind of self awareness while not being able to control your own stupidity despite understanding that it is there
I said this in a comment on a video about how people can’t handle flawed characters in media but it also applies here, people want spoken down to without being condescended too. They want the moral complexity of a preschool show and be treated like an adult at the same time. That’s not how the world works, you don’t get to complain that media is bad when you specifically asked for everything to be spelled out. Movies and tv are mostly pretty bad now because you couldn’t suspend your disbelief or fill in the blanks yourself while watching Beauty and the Beast or The Little Mermaid. You don’t get to be mad when studios are complying with your demand to be treated like a baby.
yes, they're literally saying that NOT being spoon-fed to is a bad thing without realizing that's what they're saying. people were arguing about a character from The Boys not being sexually assaulted because she never said she was out loud, even though other characters did. that show is not subtle and yet people somehow didn't realize it was making fun of them until the latest season. so much is literally spelled out in the first episode. i feel like I'm going insane. (i know i use the word literally too much, I can't stop 😅)
@marigolden_mariposa ong the becca discourse makes me so mad. I think it's willful ignorance tbh, like if homelander was not a rapist then people could think he is cool and also count on the possibility that butcher would team up with him, or that he could be redeemed. They want to be like him but ignore the fact that abusing power is what makes him him
"The Things They Carried" is probably one of my favorite books, and I read it in high-school English class. I may be a super pink girlypop, but that unit in school where we read that book, learned about unreliable narrators, and were taught to observe actions over listening to the words we're told meant the world to me because of what I was going through at the time. The people I thought were my friends finally let the mask slip. They were always doing little things that were kinda crappy, but I could look past it. Not this time, though. They took it too far, and if it hadn't been for what I was learning in that English class, I might've been silly enough to forgive them.
Cognitive load from climate anxiety, widespread addiction to nicotine and social media, capitalist anti intellectual propaganda, potentially micro plastics in the brain I don't think it's that weird that children are acting "more stupid" We deserve help (by we I mean the entire soecies at this point)
"learning isn't simply memorization" PLEASE PERFORM A SEANCE AND TELL MY HIGH SCHOOL'S STAFF I'M NOT STUPID FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO *LEARN* TO SPELL A LIST OF 20 WORDS IN EVERY WEEK *I have in no way finished the video, I just had to say this before I forget. Also I'm sorry for yelling.
I think the current ridicule of “pretentious” answers/people is just a reactionary response to the “superhero movies are destroying cinema” era we are coming out of, like somehow an entire genre can be completely incapable of artistic merit.. and the examples they always give of “real art” are just movies within a different genre that is more to their taste like high fantasy or crime/gangster films. It’s giving musicals are a lesser art form because I don’t like them. No.
Yeah, any genre can have movies that are straight up simple good v bad fairy tale type stories without any complexity or depth, and you can find pretty much any genre that has films that are introspective or are saying something bigger about people, or the world, or whatever. You can have an action flick that also says something about oppression, and abuse or power, and indoctrination, like Mad Max Fury Road for example. Though to be fair, even the simplest straightforward stories do still have a message, plenty of the most straightforward action films have a message like "killing people for committing any crime is good actually". 😅
This particular derision isn’t new at all. Sometimes, in fact very often, people are pretentious and think their ability to critique media is of a higher caliber than it is (e.g. most of Reddit, especially gamers). But there is also the case of people feeling insecure because of said lack of ability and projecting that onto art that tries to do something new. All art is pretentious in the sense that it presumes it has something new to say which those before hadn’t.
I remember my AP LIT teacher saying this about analysis: You can make any argument for any interpretation of text. What you need however, is evidence from the text to back up your interpretation. WHY do you think (insert thesis) is happening? What does it say say about you, the author, and the themes of the text?
This was a really great dissection of the current education system and anti-intellectualism culture. Your discussions of what we can define intelligence and stupidity as were fascinating. It makes me appreciate my secondary school english teachers even more than I already did.
when you started going on about how to protect your brain i was like "oh shit" but i'm cross-stitching while watching this right before going out swing dancing so i think i'm ok lol ...just need to actually hydrate
I remember one thing an English teacher did that was very interesting. Without saying a world, we put on a documentary about this black kid living in the 1940s Deep South who was a fun-loving jokester. The documentary gets to the point where it talks about the time the kid wolf-whistles at a white adult woman and the teacher quietly passes around the the box cover of the film we’re watching: The Murder of Emmett Till. This is how we began our section on black authors in the pre-civil rights era.
I feel like one of the most important things for learning at least beyond school-level is having friends with different perspectives. It's so useful discussing, for instance, media with someone who's going to have a different view. Thinking about how other people think is useful.
People: The curtains are blue because the author liked the fucking color blue Same people: "This actor can't say this was his fav film because he just loved the film. He must clearly saying this as an attempt to look smart to his audience.
pushing through the fear of being bad at something can be really hard sometimes. But! It's really freeing to give yourself permission to suck. I made a crappy crochet penguin recently, and it was really fun, despite being challenging. I can't wait to make a crappy dinosaur next. I'm also enjoying sucking at sewing doll clothes.
I do find it ironic that I hated, absolutely hated English class essay writing in school, but as an adult, media analysis video essays are one of my favourite genres! In school, we were never allowed to develop our own thesis from the text, but rather told the "correct" interpretation and made to memorise a bunch of quotes to regurgitate into 5 paragraphs. I wonder how much different my experience of English class would have been if we were actually invited to present our case for our interpretation of the story rather than just spitting out bland "characterisation" essays which for the most part made no real sense to my (then-undiagnosed) autistic brain. As somebody who loves arguing (ok not so much these days because adulting is exhausting), if essay writing had instead been presented as "making your case for the thesis you've come up with based on evidence from the text," I think I could quite possibly have loved it! The fact school is taught to the test rather than actually teaching people how to learn is one of the biggest tragedies of our society. There should be no such thing as a closed-book test, as learning is about knowing where to go to get the information you need to solve a problem, not rote memorisation. For subjects about interpreting data and presenting a case, don't tell the students the "correct" answer they have to work backwards towards. And for the love of all that is good in the world, don't have school start so goddamn early when teenagers naturally have a later-shifted sleep cycle than adults!
I also remind myself of the "Urban Consolidation" unit we had in geography class in I think it was Year 10? The previous term had been learning all about global poverty and then in that term we were learning all about why destroying old houses to build apartments in their place was bad. The whole year group was taken to the library to be shown a video all about it. At the end, they asked for a show of hands on who was for or against urban consolidation. I was the _only_ one to put my hand up in favour. When they asked why: "well people have to live somewhere. Where are we going to put the growing population of our city if we don't build new housing for them?" Anyways, I'm now a part of Sydney YIMBY. But the utter NIMBY propaganda of that unit at school, it absolutely boggles my mind that that was a course they were allowed to run. And, to the point of this post, just the weirdness that they pre-supposed that the NIMBY position was the "correct" one, so even though they presented it as if it was something to debate, they were surprised somebody would still come to a different conclusion based on the evidence presented! It would have been so much better pedagogically if they had structured the unit as a proper debate of the issue, evaluating the pros and cons on each side, and then getting the students to balance the tradeoffs for themselves and put forward their case on why those tradeoffs are the right ones to make. Actually showing folks that problems aren't black and white, and making them choose their own shade of grey when no matter the choice, there will be downsides. That's what decision making is like in the real world, and folks need to be more comfortable viewing issues as multifaceted while still actually making a decision which _will_ come with downsides in some form. Real world doesn't have perfect, objectively "correct" solutions a lot of the time, and sitting with that discomfort is something too few people on social media are able to do
I think the key term (potentially my favourite word) which culminates in any exploration of critical thinking is ~Agency~ Being stupid might appear to be, at a prima facie, a slang which undermines someone’s intellectualism. But it is crucial to introspect how deeply flawed all of our learning has been (under ongoing structures and regimes). With fallacies and propaganda running rampant in media and discourse, knowing the prompts to “defamiliarise” your insulation to critical thinking should not translate into discomfort. Knowledge can and must be regenerative. Herein, exists Agency - of engaging, thinking, perceiving and reacting. Everyone is capable of intelligence (even you), don’t let anyone ever say otherwise. Thank you @talistheintrovert for this video! Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Is English a second language? I'm sorry but this is word salad - and the fact that it gets praise from the channel, on a video about why "everybody is stupid now", is perhaps an answer to the videos question.
@@JH-pt6ih hmm… I do tend to get carried away in poetic prose or just some level of academic language when I am thinking about theory or critique (as a part of a heuristic [learned behavior] university practice). I do get how my language could be fairly inaccessible at some points. I don’t appreciate the jab or the tonality nor do I feel that I am obligated to explain a message which does seem to connect with people beyond yourself. However, I do appreciate your honesty… just please be a bit mindful about your words, not everything is directed towards everyone. Clearly my message wasn’t meant for you.
Additionally, just because I feel it is a fair clarification to provide from my end, I find common ground with you on the potential point that academia or academic language is not an equivalent to “being smart” (as they mention in the video). I, by no means, should be immune to be being criticised; however, language as a function tends to (generally) cater to an audience - the definition of which is relative to the person and the situation. My privilege has allowed me the space to be inaccessible in my language when I need to be but it too has its cracks. All that said, “nuance” is a double edged sword. My professor told me just a while back that “sometimes nuance takes away from nuance, instead of adding to it”. Moreover, it is a joint effort of both the reader and the writer to unpack any nuance (or lack thereof). I would love to clarify anything you found difficult and learn how I might be able to state it better (according to you or anyone else who comes across this). Admittedly, I was a bit ticked off by what you said and how you said it, but I do see merit in this conversation if you wish to have it
@@goofyenby I don't think your message is word salad but it was a bit hard for me to get through because of using seemingly unnecessarily complex wording at points where simpler wording would have made it read better, like the substance of the message would be the same for me it was -first when you used "prima facie" instead of "at first" or something akin to that, for example "faux pas" gets used a lot but it conveys something that would otherwise take a whole sentence or explanation, whereas prima facie can easily be replaced -"it is crucial to introspect" reads a bit janky but I'm not entirely sure how to replace it, maybe the whole sentence would have to be something like "it is crucial to look into ourselves and realize how deeply..." -"knowing the prompts to “defamiliarise” your insulation to critical thinking should not translate into discomfort." was the biggest one, since it's hard to discern what you're saying at all, I understand the sentiment is something akin to "you shouldn't feel discomfort from understanding your barriers to critical thinking" but I'm having trouble trying to piece together if that's what you're even implying with that sentence, partly because it relies on so many negative words like "defamiliarize", "insulation", "*not* translate into *discomfort*" and all of them stacked so close to each other. it reads as if you're trying to be roundabout even though I get that it's not the intention like you said in a later reply, the nuance of such words ends up making the sentences more convoluted rather than adding onto their meaning, or sometimes a more appropriate word would be something simpler most my replies on the internet are very simple and janky almost to a fault bc I dont care to structure them properly or use more nuanced words but I thought itd help to convey what I thought here
i feel exactly like you, it seems to be that everyone became less intelligent, but I seen these same people be smarter, I’m also looking back at how I spoke before I seemed much more informed, i’m still as informed i’m even more informed than before those years and I’m positive i’ll be even smarter later in life, that seems to be to be a constant, but when I look online it seems to me that everyone is getting less smart. This cannot be a fact if they are like me. If they are like me they know they are actually getting smarter with time, as more lived experience makes you smarter it’s a given. SO WHAT GIVES? The dumber people getting louder you said? I think that has a major part of it, I think the second part is we made tools that even a person who isn’t smart enough to feel things like “shame” “guilt” or simple “cringe” for putting out opinions and art that is bad. We gave everyone access to computers in their pockets and now with programs that will draw for them based off how they describe something. Think about this for a second, the machine can only draw as good as you define it, a non intelligent person can’t explain something as well as someone who is more intelligent. All to say, it seems like we are getting dumber because dumb people aren’t aware they are taking more space and have access to tools that make it seem like what they’re doing is amazing art just because the tools are new. This is my thesis, your video was amazing.
I don't usually comment when I am not finished with the video but I just wanted to say this: No, I didn't see you as less competent when you were eating or more competent when you put on mascara. I didn't even think about those things. You said you were hungry and my brain was like: "yeah, that's fair." Absolutely no judgement here. One of my friends once told me that one of the best things about me is that: "You just don't care, but in the best way possible." I sometimes clash with people because of that. Because they think something is an insult when to me it isn't. A lot of things are just neutral in my mind.
Also a note on your „consuming isn‘t learning“ actually in language learning it really is. Sure you need a foundation of words but at some point you won‘t learn a language just by studying textbooks and if you are introverted or don‘t have access to speakers you can rely on their media. A lot of ppl claim you can‘t learn from watching target language entertainment but what I‘ve seen personally is a bunch of ppl that can‘t speak even 1 extra language fluently and then preach this like it‘s fact. As someone who‘s learned their english from english media and the english speaking internet I can safely say that it does actually work. And it does take a while to get this good at it but u will gain a level of fluency at least in understanding in a decent amount of time if you just don‘t give up or lack interest in what you wanna do with it. So yes. In the context of language learning we can learn by consumption cause the repetition and the connections your brain makes on autopilot make you learn over time. So really I think this isn‘t entirely true. Same goes with any other leasure activity. We still usually gain something from consuming them. We may not see some of them as productive, but just cause you are gaining input that is also enjoyable and doesn‘t make you rely too much on thinking really hard doesn‘t mean you won‘t learn from it. I‘d say that‘s a pretty silly take especially when we know kids learn from just observing parents and other kids doing things. And learning having something to do with it being not enjoyable and also it being mentally exhausting is a pretty western education brained take imo. You learn from trial and error, immersion, effort, study and also observation. And all of these make sense for certain things. Learning certainly doesn‘t start and end at western academia.
Learning being exhausting is not a western idea lol. That is a reach. Learning a language always requires active attention, you cannot passively learn a language. And on top of that, studies have shown time and time again that comprehensive input is the only way to truly progress in a language. By consumption, they clearly mean it in a metaphorical sense of swallowing media without any critical thinking and as mere entertainment. If you constantly find that learning isn’t challenging you or at times making you exhausted, I hate to break it to you but you aren’t learning anything. Especially when we are talking about sociology and politics: you surely don’t have the audacity to think you came into the world knowing what’s right and what’s wrong? That shit will make you struggle but for the better.
@@loadishstone i don‘t think you get what I was saying honestly. And also it is something to preach to me about a thing I mastered to this level mostly by entertainment in said language and immersion. Doesn‘t mean we are too stupid as foreigners to critically think about media. And also, learning to understand polticial talk in english was a whole other beast in it‘s own right but still worth it. I‘m curious tho. Do you speak a second language to fluency? Or are you one of those that only claim they know everything about language learning while having mastered not a single one other than the one they were taught as a child? Cause it does seem to be a pattern especially with americans to preach endlessly about a subject like this without having really been there studying to that level. And u know, usually when you wanna know how to do something. You go and ask ppl that know how to do it. Aka polyglots and ppl who speak more than 1 language. Not the ppl that can‘t even speak a second one.
As a physics and maths teacher, who as a teenager was often suspicious of subjects like English literature and art, I just want to say I really enjoyed this video. Excellent takes and well argued.
People resent schools because it is built woth methods that reinforce obediance rather than mentor you & provide you with knowledge & wisdom. That is the intended result of the wide spread monopoly of the Prussian school model.
@@talistheintrovertdepends very much on the course plan of the school you're in. a lot of them nowdays use textbooks instead of actual books for stuff like reading practice.
Thanks for telling me that learning doesn't have to be a nice experience the whole way through for it to still be worth it, I've always sort of perceived it as a personal failing that I don't always love learning all of the time that I do it
…. Puzzles are used to measure intelligence….in animal studies…..somehow I have this image of the person mentioning puzzles being like, why yes I’m at cat food puzzle level of intelligence, but not quite to crow with credit card.
i'm in the process of watching the video and i really cannot stress this enough how grateful i am for not being in school right now. my mom works as a teacher (granted, not in USA, but still) and almost every week she has a wild story about her students misbehaving or just not knowing how to general things. it scares me A Lot.
oh my god, i needed this video so much, i work with people and also spend a lot of time online, and in the last few years it feels like i AM GOING INSANE. everyone is picking up on things i wouldn't even THINK of, while completely ignoring the basic context, it's like people want to be stupid. or entire "helplessness" and "girl math/logic/skill" trend, it's like instead of learning how to do things if you're lacking a skill, people yassified the fact of not being skilled/educated enough on something and made it cool. and i am not talking about things like literature or physics, but basic human interactions and basic human knowledge.
The self-infantilization of women and the "I'm just a girl" trend is so awful for feminism and young girls' development in general. I don't understand why people think it's cute or funny to not be capable of basic tasks, it's dangerous. I really think it stemmed from this generation's aversion to showing any earnestness or effort out of fear of being "cringe". In reality though, the whole trend just feels like a full-circle repackaging of the "math prodigy girl joined the cheer team and doesn't wear glasses because being smart is uncool" trend that dominated cheesy 90s movies.
The girl math thing is often actually about how something feels. It's not so much about actual "I spent 50€ on these things so I'm out 50€". It's more like, you plan on buying something, and set aside money for it, it turns out to be cheaper. "I was planning on spending 50€ so I allocated that money to these things, but I only spent 30€, so now I have 20€ that I had already allocated to something else flowing back into my general budget." The general budget has increased. So that feels like profit even though you spent money. But people are intent on interpreting that as "hurdur girls can't do math".
I love the hoof gp!!!! My mother in law says "you stop learning you start dying" I got butthurt when you were talking about school and proving intelligence because I'm bad at school but as an adult I am literally always learning and practicing new things. But then you talked about it so color me impatient I guess.
I literally found $20 on the ground on my way into work yesterday and was waiting to know who to give it to! Thank you so much for giving us a reminder to do our duty for Gaza
I'm a millenial and honestly, I find it very hard to keep up with the tech. I can work with a PC just fine, apps aren't a problem either but keeping up with Social Media, the constant desire of almost everyone around me to "show off" whatever we're doing, eating, walking together via Snapchat and other Social Media platforms is very overwhelming and feels outlandish to me. I don't buy new phones unless completely necessary, don't buy apple products in general and I hardly travel as I live very environmentally conscious (or at least I try my very best to). It's very tiring because I feel so behind in everything that sure, with access to the internet, I can learn everything there is but I was taught so little about how to get by that I don't even know where to start researching and becoming more skillful. I think the world feels really ostracizing.
It's a bit embarrassing to admit, but as someone starting the third and final year of their biology bachelor degree, I didn't actually know until you mentioned it here that it was okay and expected to skip those parts of scientific studies that are irrelevant to your field of study, or that it was normal and perhaps expected to be constantly checking things and re-reading paragraphs to make sure you're understanding everything correctly. I did ALL those things in order to be able to read the studies I needed for my lab repors and later on my thesis, but doing so made me feel like an imposter because I felt I was supposed to already have that knowledge. It was "survival during the struggle" rather than "what's expected" and I felt ashamed that I didn't "get it" immediately. I've realized now that I have been putting a fear of feeling stupid and not being recognized as smart begin to chew at my ability to be outwardly and proudly curious, and give myself the grace to actually learn. Thank you :)
57:12 I agree 100% I'm 34 and dyslexic. Which was a thing when I was in elementry school. When I was doing my student teaching in 2010, it had fallen out of fashion or somthing. No one cared about it, no one talked about, no one was diagnosing it. Kids who couldn't read just kept going on to the next grade and middle and high school teachers were coming to me to ask how to teach students with a first grade reading level.
i mean this in the best way possible when i say that throughout the survey section of the analysis i realized your teacher vibes are just through the roof...in the sense that if i were still highschool me i know for a fact i would've done the damndest to impress you and would've been worried shitless for your approval. you've indubitably mastered the quintessential "not mad but disappointed" approach. needless to say, i subbed lol
Love this video. When I was young, I assumed that intelligence was marked by a broad knowledge of ‘tough’ subjects (math, science, etc). Now, in 2024, the largest marker of intelligence (to me) is simply empathy and healthy skepticism.
The sheer number of times you had to clarify "I'm not talking about those who can't" speaks volumes about the current state of intellect these days (seriously, the fact you even had to explain it is mind-boggling). On the bright side, though, it would make an epic drinking game!
Thank you for doing this video. I am one of those that were made to think less of themselves because of a childhood wherein negativity was an all consuming cancer. I was made to feel stupid... Yet, came to accept myself as incredibly intelligent from positive, and healthy relationships in my adulthood. Even my depression was, on its own, a strikingly saddening commonality. Sadness increasing as intelligence increases has been known for a while now, but, the one good result of depression or plain sadness, is humility and an increase in emotional intelligence. My empathy, for instance, has developed to a degree, in the last 5 years, that can be crippling if not carefully managed. Your examples of behaviour of ppl after COVID lockdowns made me feel utter confusion. Despite there being times in my life, when my daily existence was similar or more isolated than those during the lockdowns, I should have been similar yet, somehow, treated strangers with respect and manners. It is a question of the emotional maturity of the people being rude.
There is a difference between being extra-ordinarily intelligent & being intelligent. I perceive my intellect, my thinking. I understand things therefore i possess an intellect. As to bemoaning stuff now: Aristotelian motion (ie motion stops when force stops, such that a shotput ought immediately fall on leaving the hand) & Empedoclean Eye-Rays were unchallenged for a millenium. It is best to focus on oneself & not seek to establish a hierarchy.
17:03 once a friend of mine relayed to me a quote which I found interesting "It's not your fault to be sexist, you were created and raised in a sexist society, It's your fault however to *still* be sexist and not overcome your prejudice despite multiple evidences showing your biases to be wrong, if you're willfully ignorant because you'd rather betray science and your fellow human beings instead of betraying your pre-formed prejudices you are a bad person"
My sister is a bit learning disabled, and struggles to read quickly. Her, my brother and i used to watch foreign flims and we'd read the subtitles for her. It was fun to act it out, as well as express our affection by helping and including her.
I lost myself so much, when I was a kid I was so smart, I have been losing my sense of humor, of curiosity, of effort, and I don’t know how to start getting better
This video is so, so fulfilling, and so eloquently said in a way that I couldn’t even begin to word in my head. I’ve been feeling this about people for so long, and been confused, cuz I’m SO naturally curious, I look up random shit all the time, and it seems like no one else does. So fascinating to hear that’s actually true? I’ve watched this video twice and will prolly watch it many more times. Thank you for your research and hard work!
There a a fair number of social media Gen Z'ers who are woefully ignorant about the past, in general, (although that is something that sort of comes with being young). My problem are the ones who instead of looking at these things (like Austin Butler's taste in films) as an opportunity to expose themselves to new things, prefer to simply denigrate the people who know those things. I had long ago reached the point where, if someone I admire tells me they love some movie, or show, or book, I simply check it out for myself. Sometimes whatever it is is not for me, but sometimes, I love it. Whatever the result, I don't automatically jump to thinking that person is pretentious just because I haven't experienced it.
I've heard of artists who read what other people have interpreted from their works and go "damn... I didn't intend it to be that way, but it makes sense." I think part of why artistic expression is so fascinating is because sometimes even if the artist didn't purposefully make the curtains blue, that doesnt make the color meaningless. Art can be a window into someone's subconscious, so maybe the artist chose the color for no apparent reason, but it might actually reflect a subconscious intention they weren't necessarily aware of. Super cool video btw :)
To anyone who needs a low-cost, brain-igniting activity, blackberries are finally ripe in my area and they are so invasive, companies exist literally only to remove the bushes 😂 after seeing them for sale at 6.99 CAD a pint, I scoffed and made the intent to pick about five cups’ worth to make a pie. It took me about a week to get “in the zone” - just yesterday the inspiration finally struck and I did the damn thing. What I found so soothing about picking, despite the MILLIONS of THORNS, was my pattern recognition evolving before my eyes - I could tell after like 15 mins of picking which were unripe, ripe and spoiled based off look and feel. I felt positively ancient, in the best way 😂 and then, when I went home and made the pie, it wasn’t even that complicated- just took time- and the results? HEAVENLY. I swear I crafted a $50 pie for like less than ten dollars. Now I’m inspired to do it again! Thanks so much for your insight ❤❤❤ ps, another basically free brain activity is searching for beach glass! My AuDHD brain LOVES to treasure hunt 💎
Art is about exploring and having fun doing it. I love debate it forces you to see things from different points of view. And explore your own world view, being challenged is uncomfortable but it can also be thrilling.
"False peaks on the learning curve lead people to overestimate their understanding of a subject" is a solid thesis, but the study also demonstrated that people who knew a lot about a subject expected to perform worse than they did. What the study demonstrated is that self-perception more often skews towards average.
As someone who did a lot of surveys and survey analysis for college and had a subject on survey design, I both empathize to your supreme irritation at some of the answers and find it extremely hilarious that you didn't expect this outcome. If you design your survey such that it is possible at all for people to fuck it up I promise you they will.
@@NiarahHawthorne Not so =P Thine corresponds to "yours" (You, your, yours=thou, thy, thine) "Thy book is on the table." "The book on the table is thine." Though, it will occasionally be paired with nouns beginning with a vowel, like "thine eyes" where conversely you'd also say "mine eyes".
I like learning. I believe that wisdom requires a deep understanding and love of our ignorance. To be trite, the path of the Tarot arcana starts with the Fool and ends with the Universe. I worry that thinking I'm "smart" will take wisdom from me. But it's also important for us to recognize when our practice is paying off, it's good to take to heart a positive trait we like to be, so long as we don't desire that trait so much that it prevents us from the discipline needed to maintain it. I have to be okay with me being stupid; being ignorant. I have to find a way to love myself through that. Learning to be okay with vulnerability, to embrace it, and embrace the vulnerable you; the you who cares. It's so hard. We deserve to foster that safety within ourselves. But that too is a skill. It might be the most important skill there is. Thank this video for highlighting curiosity. It is a critical emotion. I can say without a doubt that it has been curiosity and accepting my vulnerability that has gotten me out of the hellscape my life had been. Don't underestimate the beautiful wonder of a curious mind that can embrace the unknown and how small it makes us. In particular, curiosity in myself and the acceptance that I don't know all of myself. That I too am an unknown to be explored and embraced. It has never failed me to be curious about who I really am. Re: Asians and association with intelligence. I have literally seen that model minority myth destroy the self esteem and hope of family and friends. They will struggle with math and say, what does it mean to be Asian and be bad at math, I must be stupid beyond help. They give up on going to college and dreams. Some of them fell into bad crowds after that. The fact that this has happened multiple times to people in my sphere is crazy. It breaks my heart, especially because we're Southeast Asian American we lack so much of the privilege, wealth, and support that the North Eastern Asians have. I just want to say that "positive racism" is still destructive, though obviously it's still got some privilege over victims of negative racism. I wish we stopped treating people less for not knowing, when someone says they don't know something, I wish we could celebrate that this is a day they learned something new.
I thank my film studies professor for getting me to start to think more analytically and critically about any information I receive. I caused a love of film and reading and an interest in learning how to learn which Im learning there is no "aha, Ive finally arrived moment." Also I think the problem with people being so against critical thinking is that the people capable of teaching the skills make it seem like its an innate trait and not a learned skill which can come off as condescending.
Lowkey funny to watch this video while I take a break from trying to write an essay for my uni course. Really needed someone to remind me that research is supposed to be hard and sometimes mind numbingly boring and sometimes you just feel fucking stupid. The feeling of stupidity is just part of learning, I'm not stupid but in the moment I feel stupid. Need to remember that when I write these god damn essays. Banger video as always.
Your rant about people watching tiktok loudly made me feel seen. I'm not a big believer in social etiquette, maybe because it's not natural for me and it was forced to me so hard that I became a people pleaser. But, I think there is an argument for politeness. It's not being nice to people per se, it's being polite. I'm not that much of a people pleaser now but I still aim to treat people with respect and politeness because I see how it impacts both, the speaker and receiver. And it creates a better environment for interactions. Also, I know some people are afraid of using the word common sense because of a certain crowd... However, we shouldn't relinquish words because of who use them, they are still important to have in mind. I really enjoy your video, it was relieving to know my worries about the modern world are also ofther people's worries. Much care! ✨
Thank you for mentioning that we autistics do learn human social contracts even if it's more effortful to do so. As an old person, I find validation in this because I was just wondering why "how to do social thing" content feels hollow. It doesn't go past the basics that most of us do in fact eventually learn if other barriers aren't in place.
I think true humility consists of remaining vigilant in how we classify and judge the world around us. The more we put in the effort to explore the world, the more we deal with our personal challenges, the more we recognize the distinction between the label we place on others and what happens when it's taken away, the more we open ourselves up to understanding people for who they are. We are all ignorant. To not be ignorant means to live a thousand lives, an impossibility. We are a complex species, and assumptions about people, based uniquely on external signs interpreted subjectively rather than objectively, only lead to unnecessary bias. Someday, I hope we will hold more open-minded discussions, and learn from other people's experiences. Completely shutting down opinions because we disagree with them only reduces the scope of our understanding. The people we judge most harshly have the most revealing stories, that can’t be gauged without constructive discussion. We should be encouraged to exchange opinions, as it is then that we open ourselves up to the world. But first, we need to learn to listen to opposing views with patience. We must avoid rushing to make assumptions about people's backgrounds and intelligence based on inconclusive, biased evidence. Only then can we foster a more respectful and tolerant society.
i'm reminded of when Skinamarink came out, and there was a small group of people adamant that those who enjoyed (or even watched!) the film were fine with hurting children. they couldn't conceive of simply exploring how scary it could have felt to be home alone at so young an age. i get that people want to turn their brains off and just enjoy a fun story from time to time (which is healthy), but that got taken too far into "media's supposed to entertain me, not make me think", which mutated into "consuming troubling media makes you a morally questionable person" and the "thing good/bad" brainrot of online spaces.
There has been a time, were i felt like I couldn't learn anything, despite great marks in school. Any puzzle game would frustrate me and I never figured them out, till I played one type of puzzle that I have seen many videos about, Killer Sudoku. A few years later and I can type on the numberpad really fast and confident, I can solve many different puzzle games and I figured out programming. This taught me higher tolerance for frustration which allowed me to beat some hard puzzle videogames like the "The Witness" without looking up solutions - these are just games, but I'm still proud. Started studying computer science, btw. It was hard, but I had quiet a lot of support from my therapist and I don't have to worry about money too much. It pains me to think, where other people could be with this kind of support or where I would be without it. Still some things occluded me, like fast text comprehension? I can't figure an efficient way to summarize a text or video without forgetting to much or losing the main point? It feels like I must remember every single word or I will miss something or I get something wrong. Going slower helps, but you can't do that when your time is limited?
re: Fast text comprehension, I read quite fast in general, but there are speed reading apps that can help with text that isn't super dense (you can read single paragraphs at a time and reread them if you want, but for super dense text it's annoying to do it in the app). The apps flash single words at a constant speed so if you struggle with speed they can help sometimes. They're not perfect, and there are criticisms to be made about single words vs sentences, but if it can be a tool that helps you.
I'll watch the whole video later because now I have to sleep but here's my reason for why we need to ask questions like "Why are the curtains blue?": because it's fun. I enjoy trying to analyze something and find a meaning in some piece of media and I'm sure that most people also love do so. It's an opportunity to bring up interesting thoughts and share weird, silly or cool ideas with others. If the curtains are just blue, then that's end of discussion. Everyone goes home with nothing gained.
Not going to lie- Being undiagnosed autistic/adhd growing up and having a robust curiosity around learning and knowledge WHILE understanding how important education was to my family and myself- The bullying was intense. Even from classmates who were better off than my family financially speaking. It was “lame” to show enthusiasm and engage critically with public school. The working class has been brainwashed I swear
This is so interesting to me because as someone who has a biology degree and was taught experimental design and how to read papers and analyze data... I actually don't mind being wrong about things. It's something I've had to get really comfortable with in college and in research, and learning/being intelligent should teach you to be comfortable with the fact you CAN be wrong and you should challenge your viewpoints, because you don't know everything. Like you said, it's the lack of curiosity and unwillingness to be wrong that makes people stupid imo. Now... Not EVERY scientist is like this. But I think if you actually integrate the teachings into your life it should.
This is great! I’m currently in the process of writing my first video essay, and it’s so encouraging to see others who’ve already established a bit of a presence here on TH-cam writing such incredible work. Also, the HBomberguy extrude joke sent me rolling, lol.
@@talistheintrovert Thank you! I really, really do appreciate it. Just for accountability, since I have ADHD as well, I’ll tell you the topic: public art (aka: why i get sentimental about those scribbles carved into restroom stalls)
51:27 the problem with that line of thinking is that when you're autistic that kind of thing is used to bully you for being a picky eater anyway so no it's not "obvious" that you're exempt? Besides if someone is a "picky eater" there might be a ton of reasons you're not seeing so why would you assume it's a failing on their part and that it's ok to make fun of them? when people say "I'm autistic" in response to that it's because they know there's a stigma that exist and that goes unquestionned often. People aren't centering on their experience being exception just to be obtuse, it's because these exceptions are often overlooked and people talking in generalization without caveat directly harm them. Same with the slow walker exemple, like nobody would answer "I was born with one leg" cause that one is obvious, on the other hand "but I have chronic pain" is something that's invisible and people might still give you shit for walking slowly? I find it kinda ironic that those exemple about being obtuse and not trying to understand what other are saying are themselves missing the point the person is trying to make. Like, yeah maybe the thing isn't about you but maybe it should be? Like a lot of those often actually *are* about the people that feel targeted except the person doing the targeting don't realize it because they conceptualize it as a morale failing. To give an other autism exemple, someone might complain about people that don't give eye contact and are weirdos and if you say you don't give eye contact because you're autistic they'll say "no it's ok for you", but like, what are the odds that the "weird people that don't make eye contact with them" were autistic in the first place? I'm going to hazard an "extremely high" answer. So they were actually being ableist, they just didn't know they were being ableist. There are many exemple like that so I think often getting frustrated with people feeling targeted rather than trying to figure out why they feel targeted can lead to missing some glaring blind spots you have. Not saying people completely missing the point don't exist, people that are willfully obtuse are also plenty but it's so easy to assume a random text comment you get is from someone being obtuse. I don't know if I'm making much sense but yeah this is all rubbing me the wrong way and I feel like I'm going to be accused of being obtuse myself by saying this which doesn't help.
yeah I do feel like you're taking the worst possible assumption out of that, but I do understand that because I've done that myself when sweeping statements are made that could apply to me. The important thing isn't that that person is or isn't talking about you, it's whether it's worth escalating that into a comment or a conflict. Is that worth YOUR time? Is it worth your emotional energy?
@@talistheintrovert I mean, if someone is making sweeping statements that affect how people treat me yes? Besides it doesn't have to be conflict, I don't know if someone is spending their time discussing something they think it's worth discussing so I don't see how it's wasting anyone's time or energy to discuss it. If I assumed the person was just acting in bad faith and being biggoted then yeah it wouldn't be worth it, but if I think they're well meaning and have a blind spot it seems reasonable to want to discuss it
I completely agree with you. Those sorts of sweeping, generalized claims need to be challenged for two reasons: 1. For those people to learn that black-and-white statements are never as simple as they are and 2. For the people who are described by said statement to know that they're okay, they shouldn't be ashamed or feel bad for the way they are. Really, I just think that judgements are never smart or intelligent. There's such an easy way to say what was being said in the video in regards to people who walk too slow on a sidewalk, for example: "I personally like to walk pretty fast. I sometimes get impatient when people in front of me don't walk as fast as I like! That's just me, though." There you go, no harm, no foul. You've acknowledged that your preferences are different, not better or worse. Really, judgements are usually a tool that you use to get others to agree with you and validate your discomfort. It's rooted in insecurity. Same goes for, say, eye contact. "I get really uncomfortable when people don't maintain eye contact with me" goes over way better than "People should maintain eye contact to demonstrate that they are invested". So much judgment in that second one, versus the first one, which leaves room for someone else to go "Oh really? I prefer it when people DON'T look at me too much, it makes me uncomfortable!" Let's leave the sweeping, broad declarations for disciplines or sciences (and even then, it's usually unwise to assume that we have the whole truth in our grasp), or to stop intolerance when it shows up. Otherwise, we can acknowledge that what we consider to be paramount is really just one way of living life and really, it doesn't harm us enough to risk hurting others and making them uncomfortable in public spaces by shaming it.
@@talistheintrovert i agree A LOT about the "i like pancakes! so you must hate waffles." type of lack of reading comprehensive. but isn't it strange that the examples people give are so often about ableism or disabled people? the of-course-i-wasn't-talking-about-you reinforces that it's normal to not think about disabled people. which is what leads to people not caring about accessibility until, god forbid, they need it too. yes, some are obtuse, but i think there's TONS of examples that aren't as dismissive of ableism.
I'm at 17:06 (the video is long so I'm gonna have to watch it in parts) - I once had a crisis in re "am I stupid now?", because of a fun combo of unprocessed trauma and grad school, upon the backdrop of a global pandemic. Here's the definition I landed upon: I define a “stupid decision” to be one which is taken without adequately processing the data available to you, even when you had the time to do so. I don’t decide the stupidity of the decision based on the outcome or the accuracy of the conclusions reached; you can’t control how things turn out, you can’t know what you don’t know and you won’t always know of the tints in your glasses - you are merely mortal, you can only try. A decision is only stupid when you didn’t try to take it well. Okay, Imma go to therapy and come back at a later point!
well CLEARLY they meant compression as "a way of encoding new information into your brain" so actually their answer is just too high level for you /s :P
This is the kind of video I've been waiting to find for MONTHS!!! I live in the college town where the school has about a 95% acceptance rate, and the amount of people I've encountered who think they're smarter than me solely because they go to a university instead of the community college is BAFFLING. I was also a gifted kid with ADHD, but I hit a wall in middle school and wasn't able to return to that level of academic performance until I was a senior in high school. I have a wide variety of creative skills and enjoy learning new ones, but the only thing that makes other people think I'm "smart" is when I mention getting an AAS in Accounting.
Gen Z took typing lessons and had coding and computer science lessons from primary school to at least GCSE if not beyond. The learned helplessness issue is exclusive to Gen Alpha and is the fault of not anticipating a need to teach computer literacy the way it was taught to previous generations. I also don't understand people who get upset if there IS something I've not encountered before (say, how to fix a bike) and I ask or then start learning how to do that. As long as there is willingness to learn and accept areas of incompetance to improve upon, there is no issue.
I think schools should still do that. Alot of kids need to know how to use a computer and how to type. I understand with smartphones kids kinda get the gist but a screen and physical keyboard are completely different, plus there are alot more functions kids need to learn that can't be done on a smartphone.
Cannot express how perfect the timing of this video is.. I was the blue curtains type in high school, but a few days ago I was like, what if I could have learned something valuable and relevant in English class? At the very least, I now appreciate the balance that English provided against the more mathy subjects.
I'm not sure if this is fully on topic with the video, but I wanted to share a story about a moment that I feel made me a generally smarter person.
I was in a senior math class in high school. I was a senior at the time and pretty salty about that. There was a decision made in 6th grade that placed me in 7th grade math rather than 8th, which led to this. So, I had to take this class with the math-uninterested seniors and a handful of juniors.
I felt that 3 of these juniors were smarter than me. Not because they got to skip and I didn't, though that was a factor, it was mostly just a vibe.
Anyway, we were doing the homework after a lecture, as we usually did. I remember doing one question and getting "1" as my answer. I checked the back of the book and saw "-1" instead. I ran through the problem again was a simple, if tricky, order of operations mistake. I corrected it and moved on.
The three smart juniors suddenly started talking about the question, conferring and finding that they had all answered "1." They checked the back of the book, like me, and found that...
...the book must be wrong.
I won't lie, I was feeling pretty smart in that moment. Not only had I found out why that was the right answer, I'd gotten to the question before them! On top of that, I was conveniently ignoring the fact that I had ALSO made that mistake, which definitely helped me feel smart and smug.
They, of course, confidently told the teacher that the book was wrong. Now, this man was a great teacher. He knew and loved his subject, he was enthusiastic about it, and he tried his best to make all his students think. So, he said, "Okay, let's go through it to be sure."
This man painstakingly goes through each and every aspect of this problem, asking the three to answer even some of the very trivial addition in it. These kids were definitely frustrated, the most oustpoken one obviously thinking this was a waste of time, since they KNEW the answer in the book was wrong.
Finally, he gets to the one part, the pesky order of operations issue he knew they all had.
The kids answered wrong, paused, noticed what they did...
...and they rolled their eyes and started to change things in their homework, clearly frustrated the man had made them go through all that just to point out a little error.
Not only had I managed to get the right answer when 3 smarter kids didn't, I had just watched them ignore and shrug off the wisdom of someone far smarter than them.
I had grown up thinking of intelligence as an innate quality. I had a level others didn't; others had a level I didn't. But in that moment, I was "smarter" than them.
It wasn't going faster, it wasn't even getting the right answer. All it was was humility and doubt. It was using that to check myself and ensure I was right. A thing I had done done for arbitrary reasons. On a different day, I'd have been right there with them.
Being smart is so much more than knowing how to get the right answer. It's your approach to getting it. It's how you receive feedback. It's doing your best to be as provably right as possible before taking action.
Most importantly, it's not necessarily an innate quality. It's a practice.
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The idea that intelligence is innate is always frustrating. It manifested as devaluing the imput of "dumber" students and viewing "smarter" students as infallible and not human. I think because people assume people who seem "smart" or do well in a subject or activity must think the same way about themselves as others do about them that "smart" people are snobby by default. People assumed my thoughts and feelings to be negative simply because they thought I was "smart". I just wanted to be seen as a fellow human being, only to instead be deemed either an elitist enemy or a robot to only be interacted with for its utility like chatGPT.
@@SteppefordWife funnily enough reason for so many people to be so afraid of chat-gpt misleading people is that lack of intellectual humility of considering everything every known enough person wrote about theories etc and how it all eventually becomes just simply Hermeneutics which is basically just different languages for understanding/grasping more complex subjects.
the teacher going throught it like that also probably helped some students who had no idea what they were doing, good ass teacher right there imo
@@SteppefordWife Bro this is so true, you get tagged as an annoying know it all if you always raise your hand and answer questions, legit frustrated me so much in school I even dropped out because of the bullying, i think its also a big thing in the black community, as a black guy people pull you down if you are doing well or are doing "nerdy" things, which is annoying, just pure crab mentality, i cant even have the humility OP talks about, because of how badly I was treated for literally going to school to learn, it made me feel like everyone was just insufferable, why treat someone so badly who isn't even interacting with you, legit just doing what the teacher is asking from me
They saw me as a teacher's pet just because teacher's liked me. Some girl gossiped and called me annoying just because me and the teacher had a discussion about a certain question which no one in the class wanted to answer nor contribute to. They always say nothing so the lesson ends earlier. Worst part is white ppl treated me like that moreso than the blacks in my class
I appreciate my high school English teacher even more now. She spent a lot of time making sure we dissected UNCOMFORTABLE literature and movies. When one of my classmates complained she went into a rant about how being uncomfortable was part of life, and how ignorant were we that we could possibly live our lives without being uncomfortable. It was beautiful and I wish I’d filmed it.
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I used to be annoyed at my teacher for "always searching for a critique of society" in the texts we were studying.
I changed my mind. I get it now. Maybe she didn't even actually point it out enough. Thank you madam
The best art, lit, and music I've seen made me uncomfortable.
mine did something a bit different. she had us draw the covers of our favorite books and explain why these were our favorite, along with giving a quick plot summary.
she then proceeded to make straw man arguments about how mentor figures in our stories were predators, how our books encouraged murder, how our books were unintelligent….
and then threw our art in the trash can one by one.
this was a great introduction into the social context behind the creation of fahrenheit 451, but was also just a very sound way to explain to freshman that the perceived “problematic” nature of a piece of art could often be attributed to the social context of an individual judging the work, and that sometimes, reading something someone else deemed “taboo” was worthwhile for the sake of knowledge and to fight censorship.
i love high school english teachers. i mean i HATED some of mine but like, most were pretty damn good at their jobs
Not only that but there are some things that are SUPPOSED to make you feel uncomfortable, because that makes you an emotionally healthy human being. You are not supposed to feel good thinking about it, seeing it, or reading it.
I spent several months getting only three or four hours of sleep every night. Thinking became very, very difficult. I wonder how much stupidity is linked to chronic exhaustion.
Yes, I feel that. I was running on about four hours of sleep during my last years of school. And I kept up my grades okay but I really didn't feel well. Now that I have experienced having a good sleep schedule and getting my 7 1/2 hours each night it makes me wonder how much more I could have excelled academically if I just slept more. Or ever did my homework. In hindsight it puzzles me that I managed to graduated at all.
+ so many kids skip breakfast and eat very little for lunch
Dehydration too. People aren't getting enough water
also malnutrition.....
i have some difficult coming up with words but trust me, i am not unintelligent. just chronically in a brain fog. heh
That's part of the war on the masses. If the masses have to work so hard and so many hours a day, just to survive, they will be exhausted physically and mentally and not have the resources (physical/mental) to fight those that oppress them.
I'm "smart" because my natural curiosity was cultivated by educators and adults around me. If a child is raised in an environment that doesn't respect learning, they will not respect learning, and they will not learn. People are stupid because, as a society, we tend to think of intelligence as an innate trait you're born with, which means if you aren't in the 1% of kids who has a natural talent for a particular academic subject then people are labelled as "not smart" and thus never learn how to learn. Everything from social skills to trivia are subjugated to our sociocultural values; niceness is not a virtue in a capitalist society: effective manipulation is.
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Fatcs... as a former gifted kid, we always got the best encouragement. OF COURSE we became more educated overall than our peers. They don't actually cultivate intelligence in the general school population
it's more specifically late-stage capitalism that values that last part, or what's more specifically known as "corporealism"
My environment won't respect learning but I still love to learn but it's so hard
@@PlatinumAltaria I love this perspective! Additionally, I believe that the capitalist education system tends to favour reinforcement towards “early bloomers” in the form of higher expectations and co-opting into competitions. Everyone else is placed in the (dis)array of learnt helplessness in the face of the ranks/hierarchies which get emphasised far more than learning itself (insanity!).
I am eternally grateful to my modernism professor who helped me unlearn the dissonance between performing to learn and learning to perform. The only thing innate about us is perhaps truly just our curiosity. Some have just realized the meaning of that better than others, but that doesn’t imply any exclusivity or talent. Everyone just has their own journey~
it is more comforting to be smugly ignorant than confront the probability that your ignorance is actually harmful to yourself and others, and that you're actually just stupid. there's nothing wrong with being stupid, really. so long as you're not smug about it.
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But ignorance is not stupidity - that's _willful_ ignorance. You can be uneducated and not stupid, and you can be ignorant and not stupid. Stupidity is a deliberate refusal to engage curiously
I was labeled 'gifted' kid and technically did well academically, but I only really started feeling like I had a better grasp on things as an adult when I came to terms with the fact that some things will go over my head. I don't have to understand everything, and I don't have to tear down concepts I don't understand so that they can appear simple. This ironically opened my mind up to a lot of things I would have otherwise rejected on the basis of not already knowing them.
I love when video essayists don't actually ignore the how bad the world is these days. And what the PROBLEM is.
P.S. I may make video essays maybe sometimes
Even though I also did not enjoy this kind of teaching in school, as an adult the idea of "the curtains are just blue" seems so silly because the writer did consciously decide to write it down. They weren't in some kund of fugue state where they were writing meaningless words for no reason. I think it's quite likely something like that wouldn't be some deep methaphor, but even if it's just to establish a vibe it can still be interesting to discuss why blue curtains were chosen for that vibe and what vibe that is. Even if it is literally just some filler words that add nothing, why did the writer feel the need to do that? Is it a stylistic choice? A way to control pacing? A sign of an insecure writer?
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As an artist I can say you have a great point. Sometimes I draw something without a thought because it feels like it. So maybe sometimes blue curtains are blue because it felt 'right'.
Sorry English is not my first language I don't know if I portrait my thoughts right
"death of the author" is cool but so is "the author put this here for a reason and it's the reader's job to interpret why they did that". an attentive audience is as much an artist as the creator(s) themselves. wish more people moved onto step 2 instead of using death of the author as a "it ain't that deep" cop-out
Having worked in a library, I’ve accepted that people don’t read signs or instructions. Regardless, I still believe they deserve access to good, quality information
It's true. People don't read signs or instructions. I have a theory that our lived environment is now so thoroughly polluted with advertising and propaganda that people reflexively reject all messaging out of self-preservation.
Totally agree! I actually wrote a phd thesis on the architecture of public libraries, which in no small part focused on signage and wayfinding 😂 It's called 'Preconception to Participation', if you fancy a scintillating read
Personally, its a library, theres a lot of information, from the book titels to the flyers on the wall. I learned to ignore them completely. Its noise in my eyes.
Especially true with our phones nowadays. When one can always choose to feed their curiosity, they go for brain dead material instead.
"If you still haven't relearned how to be polite to service workers or not disrupt the public that's a fucking SKILL ISSUE"
Yeaaaahhhh say it LOUDER let it be HEARDDDD 🗣️📢
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She ate with that one actually
To be a Karen is a skill issue and lashing out on neurodivergent people is a skill issue, refusal to learn about other people and their issues is a skill issue.
@@Thesassyblackguy1996say it louder for the Karens on their phones (while ordering) ❤
My mom was an English teacher which is what made me love learning, interacting with arts and media, and generally thinking critically.
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one of the things i miss about university: the nearest cinema was a good twenty minute or more drive from campus. several of us (not everyone had a car) would go see a movie and then talk about it during the ride home. i wasn't a movie person until i met these friends. i thought this was normal, to discuss everything about the experience. then i went to acting school, saw films with other aspiring actors and sadly...little to no discussions. i missed it then, i miss it now.
that sounds wonderful! I hope you find a way to recreate it again!
strange, wouldn't they at least discuss the acting? i would've expected otherwise
Even when I do see discussions online, someone inevitably goes “It’s not that deep” or “It’s just a movie” as if they think people who create things are just on auto-pilot
In my experience, a lot of aspiring actors (and working actors, I assume) don't really care about art. They care about praise and prestige.
“Muad'Dib learned rapidly because his first training was in how to learn. And the first lesson of all was the basic trust that he could learn. It's shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult. Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.”
― Frank Herbert, Dune
Oh yeah! Isn’t this partly reflected in pedagogical theory in the concept of “fixed mindset” vs “growth mindset”?
Beautiful quote, that reminds me of Julia Lepetit of Drawfee Fame : "Can you believe to learn ???"
Indeed we can.
@@Mel-mc9mudrawfee crew are among this century's greatest scholars and intellectuals and 80 percent of that is pure julia wisdom
Frank Herbert was a prophet❤
If someone asks me "Do you know how to do X?" And I don't know how to, I always reply with "No, but I can learn."
First of all: YES, BUSTED MENTIONED!!!
Second: I'm a translator, I took a class where we had to translate a piece of media (be it a chapter of a book, a play, I chose subtitles for a show I really like that isn't out in Italy) and basically during class we just went there with questions about our translations, all of them in Italian so people wouldn't be biased by the foreign language if they knew it. I loved that class, we basically discussed every time about the most random things and interpretations of what we were bringing to it.
Also, as a translator, it baffles me even more when people say that translators are not needed because now everything is "automatic" when without the human input, translations would just be a gibberish mess of connected words, but with no clear sense or message in them.
So what I'm trying to say is: the spoonfeeding of stuff still doesn't allow people to actually understand what the message is, which is frustrating to say the least. Because then we have situations where jobs like mine are thought of as "not necessary" because surely a machine can do it! When, as I said, it's not true since the translator's job is to UNDERSTAND the meaning of the text by analysing it.
Edit: sorry for the rant... also, welcome back!
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Hell yes! I remember several translating courses where we translated a Dutch children's book into English, recipes, etc. Programs and algorithms don't know that unsalted butter in English is just butter in Dutch, the standard is always unsalted, you only specify if you need salted, or they don't understand that potvis en walvis in Dutch translate to whale and sperm whale in English and that that reads weirdly, and that you are better off making it blue whale and sperm whale or something, for better flow.
One course description from another department was translated from Dutch to English by someone who wasn't great at English, and the description was... VERY hard to read. We had a very hard time to figure out which wrong translation they'd used and to try and reconstruct what they were actually trying to say.
But the discussions about the children's book stayed with me, it was a very literary type of book, with lots of puns, metaphors, and double and deeper meanings etc, so very hard to translate something that conveys the same double meaning, and that's two languages that are actually fairly related, and even share a lot of sayings and metaphors. I can't imagine how hard it must be to translate between languages that are not related at all and keeping it readable, without constantly adding little asterisks with explanations and cultural associations etc.
The "life experience" answer is like "I LIFT WEIGHTS, I SWEAT, I GRIND, I WORK ON CARS" coded.
As an intellectual, I spend a lot of my time wishing I were more like one of those people. They seem so much more content, in my anecdotal experience. I do feel like being intelligent is a disadvantage when you're poor and working class; at least where I live. I mean, intelligence isn't ever seen as an asset to dumber people, because they often don't have the capacity or desire to understand what you're trying to tell them. Pointing out a better way to do things that you came to think of by critically thinking about the work you're being paid to do is often seen as a nuisance in working class spaces, because "they aren't paying you to think". I remember when having a dispute once at a warehouse job where my brother and I both worked (because of the way we were raised, we both tend to be more critical thinkers than most), our supervisor got annoyed with my brother for using "big words" such as "vicinity" while trying to explain a concern to him.
When you're an above-average intelligence person in working class spaces in modern day America, life often feels like a satire happening in real time. I think the people who just pump iron and work on cars probably have the right idea, because shutting your brain off seems to make it easier to have a stable life in our modern world. You kinda gotta be dumb to keep your head down and your mouth shut when every place you find yourself in is completely dysfunctional and disorderly.
I mean, there's a reason the phrase "ignorance is bliss" exists. and also there's a reason so many intelligent people are depressed and use drugs like weed to relax. @@zenleeparadise
@@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee I know... and knowing this doesn't seem to help anything either. 😂
@@zenleeparadise have you seen the manosphere lately? those guys are *not* content
@@batmanultra7 you are intelligent those are important complicated skills. Don't let Tal make you think you are stupid! You are smart!
Something I noticed in the recent boom of media (il)literacy discussion is how poorly school did at teaching me about it. Throughout high school english classes, the focus for me, and I suspect a lot of people, always took the form of how to find symbolism in a text, searching for answers instead of asking why the question was being posed in the first place. It never mattered why the curtains were blue, just how I could justify it because if you bothered to ask why, you weren't "properly" responding to the topic of the essay.
The question, "When will we ever use this in real life?" gets asked a lot and I find that most answers tend to be some variation of "because." Whatever opinions you have about our school systems, things aren't just taught for no reason. Math is not just teaching math, it's teaching problem solving as a whole. Science teaches us to be curious about the world around us. And english teaches us how to analyze ANY information we receive. All of these things come up daily and it seems that "because" has become such a ubiquitous answer that even many teachers don't consider to question it.
Reflecting on myself, I really don't know which side of the Dunning-Kruger effect I fall on. Sometimes, I feel a sense of smug superiority and make arguments which, in hindsight, turn out to be comically wrong. But in other contexts, I say something perfectly sensible, yet cannot shake the feeling that it was "poorly expressed" or "not researched enough". I also oscillate wildly between feeling an uncontrollable urge to express my opinions (even when they're not very informed), and being so anxious about expressing myself that I second-guess, redraft and workshop even simple messages. On some days, I think to myself "you're a smart guy. Your essays are pretty good". On most days, I think "smart? You don't know a thing about the real world. You haven't worked a day in your life, you have zero discipline. When was the last time you actually read an academic paper start-to-finish? You wouldn't know how to fix a door handle if it broke". It feels like being in limbo, stuck between "kinda smart" and "extremely stupid". And it's not about encyclopedic knowledge, it's about clarity of mind, which I barely ever have.
this is such a huge mood ohmygod
I have anxiety so I just err on the side of caution and assume I'm wrong and know nothing 😃
dear god this is so me, ive spent so much time obsessing over not being able to think clearly and every single day i just feel like im getting dumber and dumber. a weird kind of self awareness while not being able to control your own stupidity despite understanding that it is there
i feel this so much
I feel this to
I said this in a comment on a video about how people can’t handle flawed characters in media but it also applies here, people want spoken down to without being condescended too. They want the moral complexity of a preschool show and be treated like an adult at the same time.
That’s not how the world works, you don’t get to complain that media is bad when you specifically asked for everything to be spelled out. Movies and tv are mostly pretty bad now because you couldn’t suspend your disbelief or fill in the blanks yourself while watching Beauty and the Beast or The Little Mermaid. You don’t get to be mad when studios are complying with your demand to be treated like a baby.
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Ugh yes 😭
yes, they're literally saying that NOT being spoon-fed to is a bad thing without realizing that's what they're saying.
people were arguing about a character from The Boys not being sexually assaulted because she never said she was out loud, even though other characters did.
that show is not subtle and yet people somehow didn't realize it was making fun of them until the latest season. so much is literally spelled out in the first episode. i feel like I'm going insane.
(i know i use the word literally too much, I can't stop 😅)
@marigolden_mariposa ong the becca discourse makes me so mad. I think it's willful ignorance tbh, like if homelander was not a rapist then people could think he is cool and also count on the possibility that butcher would team up with him, or that he could be redeemed. They want to be like him but ignore the fact that abusing power is what makes him him
"The Things They Carried" is probably one of my favorite books, and I read it in high-school English class. I may be a super pink girlypop, but that unit in school where we read that book, learned about unreliable narrators, and were taught to observe actions over listening to the words we're told meant the world to me because of what I was going through at the time.
The people I thought were my friends finally let the mask slip. They were always doing little things that were kinda crappy, but I could look past it. Not this time, though. They took it too far, and if it hadn't been for what I was learning in that English class, I might've been silly enough to forgive them.
Cognitive load from climate anxiety, widespread addiction to nicotine and social media, capitalist anti intellectual propaganda, potentially micro plastics in the brain
I don't think it's that weird that children are acting "more stupid"
We deserve help (by we I mean the entire soecies at this point)
"learning isn't simply memorization"
PLEASE PERFORM A SEANCE AND TELL MY HIGH SCHOOL'S STAFF I'M NOT STUPID FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO *LEARN* TO SPELL A LIST OF 20 WORDS IN EVERY WEEK
*I have in no way finished the video, I just had to say this before I forget. Also I'm sorry for yelling.
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I think the current ridicule of “pretentious” answers/people is just a reactionary response to the “superhero movies are destroying cinema” era we are coming out of, like somehow an entire genre can be completely incapable of artistic merit.. and the examples they always give of “real art” are just movies within a different genre that is more to their taste like high fantasy or crime/gangster films. It’s giving musicals are a lesser art form because I don’t like them. No.
Yeah, any genre can have movies that are straight up simple good v bad fairy tale type stories without any complexity or depth, and you can find pretty much any genre that has films that are introspective or are saying something bigger about people, or the world, or whatever. You can have an action flick that also says something about oppression, and abuse or power, and indoctrination, like Mad Max Fury Road for example.
Though to be fair, even the simplest straightforward stories do still have a message, plenty of the most straightforward action films have a message like "killing people for committing any crime is good actually". 😅
This particular derision isn’t new at all. Sometimes, in fact very often, people are pretentious and think their ability to critique media is of a higher caliber than it is (e.g. most of Reddit, especially gamers).
But there is also the case of people feeling insecure because of said lack of ability and projecting that onto art that tries to do something new. All art is pretentious in the sense that it presumes it has something new to say which those before hadn’t.
I remember my AP LIT teacher saying this about analysis: You can make any argument for any interpretation of text. What you need however, is evidence from the text to back up your interpretation. WHY do you think (insert thesis) is happening? What does it say say about you, the author, and the themes of the text?
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We need to bring back hot takes with facts and evidence- academic style 😂
This was a really great dissection of the current education system and anti-intellectualism culture. Your discussions of what we can define intelligence and stupidity as were fascinating. It makes me appreciate my secondary school english teachers even more than I already did.
Thank you!!
I’ve had a special in video essays for years iv learned a lot from that. I will remember the “consuming is different than learning” thing
when you started going on about how to protect your brain i was like "oh shit" but i'm cross-stitching while watching this right before going out swing dancing so i think i'm ok lol
...just need to actually hydrate
oh hell yeah!!
We're in an information age and no longer teaching skills. Information is endless, but true wisdom is exclusive and selective.
I remember one thing an English teacher did that was very interesting. Without saying a world, we put on a documentary about this black kid living in the 1940s Deep South who was a fun-loving jokester. The documentary gets to the point where it talks about the time the kid wolf-whistles at a white adult woman and the teacher quietly passes around the the box cover of the film we’re watching: The Murder of Emmett Till. This is how we began our section on black authors in the pre-civil rights era.
I feel like one of the most important things for learning at least beyond school-level is having friends with different perspectives. It's so useful discussing, for instance, media with someone who's going to have a different view. Thinking about how other people think is useful.
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People: The curtains are blue because the author liked the fucking color blue
Same people: "This actor can't say this was his fav film because he just loved the film. He must clearly saying this as an attempt to look smart to his audience.
pushing through the fear of being bad at something can be really hard sometimes. But! It's really freeing to give yourself permission to suck. I made a crappy crochet penguin recently, and it was really fun, despite being challenging. I can't wait to make a crappy dinosaur next. I'm also enjoying sucking at sewing doll clothes.
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I do find it ironic that I hated, absolutely hated English class essay writing in school, but as an adult, media analysis video essays are one of my favourite genres!
In school, we were never allowed to develop our own thesis from the text, but rather told the "correct" interpretation and made to memorise a bunch of quotes to regurgitate into 5 paragraphs. I wonder how much different my experience of English class would have been if we were actually invited to present our case for our interpretation of the story rather than just spitting out bland "characterisation" essays which for the most part made no real sense to my (then-undiagnosed) autistic brain. As somebody who loves arguing (ok not so much these days because adulting is exhausting), if essay writing had instead been presented as "making your case for the thesis you've come up with based on evidence from the text," I think I could quite possibly have loved it!
The fact school is taught to the test rather than actually teaching people how to learn is one of the biggest tragedies of our society. There should be no such thing as a closed-book test, as learning is about knowing where to go to get the information you need to solve a problem, not rote memorisation. For subjects about interpreting data and presenting a case, don't tell the students the "correct" answer they have to work backwards towards. And for the love of all that is good in the world, don't have school start so goddamn early when teenagers naturally have a later-shifted sleep cycle than adults!
I also remind myself of the "Urban Consolidation" unit we had in geography class in I think it was Year 10? The previous term had been learning all about global poverty and then in that term we were learning all about why destroying old houses to build apartments in their place was bad. The whole year group was taken to the library to be shown a video all about it. At the end, they asked for a show of hands on who was for or against urban consolidation. I was the _only_ one to put my hand up in favour. When they asked why: "well people have to live somewhere. Where are we going to put the growing population of our city if we don't build new housing for them?"
Anyways, I'm now a part of Sydney YIMBY. But the utter NIMBY propaganda of that unit at school, it absolutely boggles my mind that that was a course they were allowed to run. And, to the point of this post, just the weirdness that they pre-supposed that the NIMBY position was the "correct" one, so even though they presented it as if it was something to debate, they were surprised somebody would still come to a different conclusion based on the evidence presented!
It would have been so much better pedagogically if they had structured the unit as a proper debate of the issue, evaluating the pros and cons on each side, and then getting the students to balance the tradeoffs for themselves and put forward their case on why those tradeoffs are the right ones to make. Actually showing folks that problems aren't black and white, and making them choose their own shade of grey when no matter the choice, there will be downsides. That's what decision making is like in the real world, and folks need to be more comfortable viewing issues as multifaceted while still actually making a decision which _will_ come with downsides in some form. Real world doesn't have perfect, objectively "correct" solutions a lot of the time, and sitting with that discomfort is something too few people on social media are able to do
I think the key term (potentially my favourite word) which culminates in any exploration of critical thinking is ~Agency~
Being stupid might appear to be, at a prima facie, a slang which undermines someone’s intellectualism. But it is crucial to introspect how deeply flawed all of our learning has been (under ongoing structures and regimes).
With fallacies and propaganda running rampant in media and discourse, knowing the prompts to “defamiliarise” your insulation to critical thinking should not translate into discomfort. Knowledge can and must be regenerative.
Herein, exists Agency - of engaging, thinking, perceiving and reacting. Everyone is capable of intelligence (even you), don’t let anyone ever say otherwise.
Thank you @talistheintrovert for this video!
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Is English a second language? I'm sorry but this is word salad - and the fact that it gets praise from the channel, on a video about why "everybody is stupid now", is perhaps an answer to the videos question.
@@JH-pt6ih hmm… I do tend to get carried away in poetic prose or just some level of academic language when I am thinking about theory or critique (as a part of a heuristic [learned behavior] university practice). I do get how my language could be fairly inaccessible at some points.
I don’t appreciate the jab or the tonality nor do I feel that I am obligated to explain a message which does seem to connect with people beyond yourself. However, I do appreciate your honesty… just please be a bit mindful about your words, not everything is directed towards everyone. Clearly my message wasn’t meant for you.
Additionally, just because I feel it is a fair clarification to provide from my end, I find common ground with you on the potential point that academia or academic language is not an equivalent to “being smart” (as they mention in the video).
I, by no means, should be immune to be being criticised; however, language as a function tends to (generally) cater to an audience - the definition of which is relative to the person and the situation. My privilege has allowed me the space to be inaccessible in my language when I need to be but it too has its cracks.
All that said, “nuance” is a double edged sword. My professor told me just a while back that “sometimes nuance takes away from nuance, instead of adding to it”. Moreover, it is a joint effort of both the reader and the writer to unpack any nuance (or lack thereof). I would love to clarify anything you found difficult and learn how I might be able to state it better (according to you or anyone else who comes across this). Admittedly, I was a bit ticked off by what you said and how you said it, but I do see merit in this conversation if you wish to have it
@@goofyenby I don't think your message is word salad but it was a bit hard for me to get through because of using seemingly unnecessarily complex wording at points where simpler wording would have made it read better, like the substance of the message would be the same
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-first when you used "prima facie" instead of "at first" or something akin to that, for example "faux pas" gets used a lot but it conveys something that would otherwise take a whole sentence or explanation, whereas prima facie can easily be replaced
-"it is crucial to introspect" reads a bit janky but I'm not entirely sure how to replace it, maybe the whole sentence would have to be something like "it is crucial to look into ourselves and realize how deeply..."
-"knowing the prompts to “defamiliarise” your insulation to critical thinking should not translate into discomfort." was the biggest one, since it's hard to discern what you're saying at all, I understand the sentiment is something akin to "you shouldn't feel discomfort from understanding your barriers to critical thinking" but I'm having trouble trying to piece together if that's what you're even implying with that sentence, partly because it relies on so many negative words like "defamiliarize", "insulation", "*not* translate into *discomfort*" and all of them stacked so close to each other. it reads as if you're trying to be roundabout even though I get that it's not the intention
like you said in a later reply, the nuance of such words ends up making the sentences more convoluted rather than adding onto their meaning, or sometimes a more appropriate word would be something simpler
most my replies on the internet are very simple and janky almost to a fault bc I dont care to structure them properly or use more nuanced words but I thought itd help to convey what I thought here
not the survey results PROVING THE POINT
i feel exactly like you, it seems to be that everyone became less intelligent, but I seen these same people be smarter, I’m also looking back at how I spoke before I seemed much more informed, i’m still as informed i’m even more informed than before those years and I’m positive i’ll be even smarter later in life, that seems to be to be a constant, but when I look online it seems to me that everyone is getting less smart. This cannot be a fact if they are like me. If they are like me they know they are actually getting smarter with time, as more lived experience makes you smarter it’s a given.
SO WHAT GIVES? The dumber people getting louder you said? I think that has a major part of it, I think the second part is we made tools that even a person who isn’t smart enough to feel things like “shame” “guilt” or simple “cringe” for putting out opinions and art that is bad. We gave everyone access to computers in their pockets and now with programs that will draw for them based off how they describe something.
Think about this for a second, the machine can only draw as good as you define it, a non intelligent person can’t explain something as well as someone who is more intelligent.
All to say, it seems like we are getting dumber because dumb people aren’t aware they are taking more space and have access to tools that make it seem like what they’re doing is amazing art just because the tools are new.
This is my thesis, your video was amazing.
I don't usually comment when I am not finished with the video but I just wanted to say this:
No, I didn't see you as less competent when you were eating or more competent when you put on mascara. I didn't even think about those things. You said you were hungry and my brain was like: "yeah, that's fair." Absolutely no judgement here.
One of my friends once told me that one of the best things about me is that: "You just don't care, but in the best way possible."
I sometimes clash with people because of that. Because they think something is an insult when to me it isn't. A lot of things are just neutral in my mind.
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32:26 "STOP PLAYING TIKTOKS ON THE FUCKING TUBE!" is what I want to scream so badly in every bus I step into.
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Also a note on your „consuming isn‘t learning“ actually in language learning it really is. Sure you need a foundation of words but at some point you won‘t learn a language just by studying textbooks and if you are introverted or don‘t have access to speakers you can rely on their media. A lot of ppl claim you can‘t learn from watching target language entertainment but what I‘ve seen personally is a bunch of ppl that can‘t speak even 1 extra language fluently and then preach this like it‘s fact. As someone who‘s learned their english from english media and the english speaking internet I can safely say that it does actually work. And it does take a while to get this good at it but u will gain a level of fluency at least in understanding in a decent amount of time if you just don‘t give up or lack interest in what you wanna do with it. So yes. In the context of language learning we can learn by consumption cause the repetition and the connections your brain makes on autopilot make you learn over time. So really I think this isn‘t entirely true. Same goes with any other leasure activity. We still usually gain something from consuming them. We may not see some of them as productive, but just cause you are gaining input that is also enjoyable and doesn‘t make you rely too much on thinking really hard doesn‘t mean you won‘t learn from it. I‘d say that‘s a pretty silly take especially when we know kids learn from just observing parents and other kids doing things. And learning having something to do with it being not enjoyable and also it being mentally exhausting is a pretty western education brained take imo. You learn from trial and error, immersion, effort, study and also observation. And all of these make sense for certain things. Learning certainly doesn‘t start and end at western academia.
consuming is PART of learning but it isn't the whole hog, so to speak 🙏
Learning being exhausting is not a western idea lol. That is a reach. Learning a language always requires active attention, you cannot passively learn a language. And on top of that, studies have shown time and time again that comprehensive input is the only way to truly progress in a language.
By consumption, they clearly mean it in a metaphorical sense of swallowing media without any critical thinking and as mere entertainment. If you constantly find that learning isn’t challenging you or at times making you exhausted, I hate to break it to you but you aren’t learning anything. Especially when we are talking about sociology and politics: you surely don’t have the audacity to think you came into the world knowing what’s right and what’s wrong? That shit will make you struggle but for the better.
@@talistheintrovert fair point. Thx for the input.
@@loadishstone i don‘t think you get what I was saying honestly. And also it is something to preach to me about a thing I mastered to this level mostly by entertainment in said language and immersion. Doesn‘t mean we are too stupid as foreigners to critically think about media. And also, learning to understand polticial talk in english was a whole other beast in it‘s own right but still worth it. I‘m curious tho. Do you speak a second language to fluency? Or are you one of those that only claim they know everything about language learning while having mastered not a single one other than the one they were taught as a child? Cause it does seem to be a pattern especially with americans to preach endlessly about a subject like this without having really been there studying to that level. And u know, usually when you wanna know how to do something. You go and ask ppl that know how to do it. Aka polyglots and ppl who speak more than 1 language. Not the ppl that can‘t even speak a second one.
As a physics and maths teacher, who as a teenager was often suspicious of subjects like English literature and art, I just want to say I really enjoyed this video. Excellent takes and well argued.
People resent schools because it is built woth methods that reinforce obediance rather than mentor you & provide you with knowledge & wisdom.
That is the intended result of the wide spread monopoly of the Prussian school model.
school maybe, specifically English classes though are designed to provide you with critical thinking skills
@@talistheintrovertdepends very much on the course plan of the school you're in. a lot of them nowdays use textbooks instead of actual books for stuff like reading practice.
Thanks for telling me that learning doesn't have to be a nice experience the whole way through for it to still be worth it, I've always sort of perceived it as a personal failing that I don't always love learning all of the time that I do it
Thank you for making this video. I honestly appreciate this and I bet others do too.
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…. Puzzles are used to measure intelligence….in animal studies…..somehow I have this image of the person mentioning puzzles being like, why yes I’m at cat food puzzle level of intelligence, but not quite to crow with credit card.
i'm in the process of watching the video and i really cannot stress this enough how grateful i am for not being in school right now. my mom works as a teacher (granted, not in USA, but still) and almost every week she has a wild story about her students misbehaving or just not knowing how to general things. it scares me A Lot.
it seems to be a worldwide problem which is a real worry 😬
oh my god, i needed this video so much, i work with people and also spend a lot of time online, and in the last few years it feels like i AM GOING INSANE.
everyone is picking up on things i wouldn't even THINK of, while completely ignoring the basic context, it's like people want to be stupid. or entire "helplessness" and "girl math/logic/skill" trend, it's like instead of learning how to do things if you're lacking a skill, people yassified the fact of not being skilled/educated enough on something and made it cool. and i am not talking about things like literature or physics, but basic human interactions and basic human knowledge.
The self-infantilization of women and the "I'm just a girl" trend is so awful for feminism and young girls' development in general. I don't understand why people think it's cute or funny to not be capable of basic tasks, it's dangerous.
I really think it stemmed from this generation's aversion to showing any earnestness or effort out of fear of being "cringe". In reality though, the whole trend just feels like a full-circle repackaging of the "math prodigy girl joined the cheer team and doesn't wear glasses because being smart is uncool" trend that dominated cheesy 90s movies.
@@emmyrose233 exactly! it's all those male jokes about "women's logic" reframed
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The girl math thing is often actually about how something feels. It's not so much about actual "I spent 50€ on these things so I'm out 50€". It's more like, you plan on buying something, and set aside money for it, it turns out to be cheaper. "I was planning on spending 50€ so I allocated that money to these things, but I only spent 30€, so now I have 20€ that I had already allocated to something else flowing back into my general budget." The general budget has increased. So that feels like profit even though you spent money.
But people are intent on interpreting that as "hurdur girls can't do math".
@@AnnekeOosterink yeah, i wasn’t against this phrase when it’d just stated, imo the meaning is completely different now
I love the hoof gp!!!!
My mother in law says "you stop learning you start dying"
I got butthurt when you were talking about school and proving intelligence because I'm bad at school but as an adult I am literally always learning and practicing new things. But then you talked about it so color me impatient I guess.
This was the greatest video to accidentally find in my whole life, thank you so much for creating this!
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I literally found $20 on the ground on my way into work yesterday and was waiting to know who to give it to! Thank you so much for giving us a reminder to do our duty for Gaza
I'm a millenial and honestly, I find it very hard to keep up with the tech. I can work with a PC just fine, apps aren't a problem either but keeping up with Social Media, the constant desire of almost everyone around me to "show off" whatever we're doing, eating, walking together via Snapchat and other Social Media platforms is very overwhelming and feels outlandish to me. I don't buy new phones unless completely necessary, don't buy apple products in general and I hardly travel as I live very environmentally conscious (or at least I try my very best to). It's very tiring because I feel so behind in everything that sure, with access to the internet, I can learn everything there is but I was taught so little about how to get by that I don't even know where to start researching and becoming more skillful. I think the world feels really ostracizing.
Social Media isn't tech. Unless you repair devices for a living, it's fine you aren't keeping up with new shit.
It's a bit embarrassing to admit, but as someone starting the third and final year of their biology bachelor degree, I didn't actually know until you mentioned it here that it was okay and expected to skip those parts of scientific studies that are irrelevant to your field of study, or that it was normal and perhaps expected to be constantly checking things and re-reading paragraphs to make sure you're understanding everything correctly.
I did ALL those things in order to be able to read the studies I needed for my lab repors and later on my thesis, but doing so made me feel like an imposter because I felt I was supposed to already have that knowledge. It was "survival during the struggle" rather than "what's expected" and I felt ashamed that I didn't "get it" immediately.
I've realized now that I have been putting a fear of feeling stupid and not being recognized as smart begin to chew at my ability to be outwardly and proudly curious, and give myself the grace to actually learn. Thank you :)
The irony of me being able to pay attention to the first hour of this video and then spacing out just as you discuss your ADHD is not lost on me.
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I agree 100%
I'm 34 and dyslexic. Which was a thing when I was in elementry school. When I was doing my student teaching in 2010, it had fallen out of fashion or somthing. No one cared about it, no one talked about, no one was diagnosing it. Kids who couldn't read just kept going on to the next grade and middle and high school teachers were coming to me to ask how to teach students with a first grade reading level.
oof this is dreadful 😬 what a scary thing
i mean this in the best way possible when i say that throughout the survey section of the analysis i realized your teacher vibes are just through the roof...in the sense that if i were still highschool me i know for a fact i would've done the damndest to impress you and would've been worried shitless for your approval.
you've indubitably mastered the quintessential "not mad but disappointed" approach.
needless to say, i subbed lol
Love this video. When I was young, I assumed that intelligence was marked by a broad knowledge of ‘tough’ subjects (math, science, etc). Now, in 2024, the largest marker of intelligence (to me) is simply empathy and healthy skepticism.
The sheer number of times you had to clarify "I'm not talking about those who can't" speaks volumes about the current state of intellect these days (seriously, the fact you even had to explain it is mind-boggling). On the bright side, though, it would make an epic drinking game!
Thank you for doing this video. I am one of those that were made to think less of themselves because of a childhood wherein negativity was an all consuming cancer.
I was made to feel stupid... Yet, came to accept myself as incredibly intelligent from positive, and healthy relationships in my adulthood. Even my depression was, on its own, a strikingly saddening commonality. Sadness increasing as intelligence increases has been known for a while now, but, the one good result of depression or plain sadness, is humility and an increase in emotional intelligence. My empathy, for instance, has developed to a degree, in the last 5 years, that can be crippling if not carefully managed.
Your examples of behaviour of ppl after COVID lockdowns made me feel utter confusion. Despite there being times in my life, when my daily existence was similar or more isolated than those during the lockdowns, I should have been similar yet, somehow, treated strangers with respect and manners. It is a question of the emotional maturity of the people being rude.
There is a difference between being extra-ordinarily intelligent & being intelligent.
I perceive my intellect, my thinking. I understand things therefore i possess an intellect.
As to bemoaning stuff now: Aristotelian motion (ie motion stops when force stops, such that a shotput ought immediately fall on leaving the hand) & Empedoclean Eye-Rays were unchallenged for a millenium.
It is best to focus on oneself & not seek to establish a hierarchy.
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17:03 once a friend of mine relayed to me a quote which I found interesting "It's not your fault to be sexist, you were created and raised in a sexist society, It's your fault however to *still* be sexist and not overcome your prejudice despite multiple evidences showing your biases to be wrong, if you're willfully ignorant because you'd rather betray science and your fellow human beings instead of betraying your pre-formed prejudices you are a bad person"
My sister is a bit learning disabled, and struggles to read quickly. Her, my brother and i used to watch foreign flims and we'd read the subtitles for her. It was fun to act it out, as well as express our affection by helping and including her.
The blue curtain example might be a more legitimate criticism of literary analysis if it wasn't a made up example
I lost myself so much, when I was a kid I was so smart, I have been losing my sense of humor, of curiosity, of effort, and I don’t know how to start getting better
This video is so, so fulfilling, and so eloquently said in a way that I couldn’t even begin to word in my head. I’ve been feeling this about people for so long, and been confused, cuz I’m SO naturally curious, I look up random shit all the time, and it seems like no one else does. So fascinating to hear that’s actually true? I’ve watched this video twice and will prolly watch it many more times. Thank you for your research and hard work!
omg hi i missed you!! i cant wait to learn how to not be stupid
There a a fair number of social media Gen Z'ers who are woefully ignorant about the past, in general, (although that is something that sort of comes with being young). My problem are the ones who instead of looking at these things (like Austin Butler's taste in films) as an opportunity to expose themselves to new things, prefer to simply denigrate the people who know those things.
I had long ago reached the point where, if someone I admire tells me they love some movie, or show, or book, I simply check it out for myself. Sometimes whatever it is is not for me, but sometimes, I love it. Whatever the result, I don't automatically jump to thinking that person is pretentious just because I haven't experienced it.
finally. someone who admits they watch The Hoof GP 😅 I love him. great video.
0:52 THE SIX MAGIC WORDS OF A TH-cam VIDEO ESSAY HAVE BEEN SPOKEN! BOW BEFORE THE QUEEN!
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Without imagination, there can be no innovation is unironically BARS.
I've heard of artists who read what other people have interpreted from their works and go "damn... I didn't intend it to be that way, but it makes sense." I think part of why artistic expression is so fascinating is because sometimes even if the artist didn't purposefully make the curtains blue, that doesnt make the color meaningless. Art can be a window into someone's subconscious, so maybe the artist chose the color for no apparent reason, but it might actually reflect a subconscious intention they weren't necessarily aware of.
Super cool video btw :)
To anyone who needs a low-cost, brain-igniting activity, blackberries are finally ripe in my area and they are so invasive, companies exist literally only to remove the bushes 😂 after seeing them for sale at 6.99 CAD a pint, I scoffed and made the intent to pick about five cups’ worth to make a pie. It took me about a week to get “in the zone” - just yesterday the inspiration finally struck and I did the damn thing. What I found so soothing about picking, despite the MILLIONS of THORNS, was my pattern recognition evolving before my eyes - I could tell after like 15 mins of picking which were unripe, ripe and spoiled based off look and feel. I felt positively ancient, in the best way 😂 and then, when I went home and made the pie, it wasn’t even that complicated- just took time- and the results? HEAVENLY. I swear I crafted a $50 pie for like less than ten dollars. Now I’m inspired to do it again! Thanks so much for your insight ❤❤❤ ps, another basically free brain activity is searching for beach glass! My AuDHD brain LOVES to treasure hunt 💎
an excellent idea!!
Art is about exploring and having fun doing it. I love debate it forces you to see things from different points of view. And explore your own world view, being challenged is uncomfortable but it can also be thrilling.
This is my introduction to your channel, and I needed this.
P.s. I hope you heal and feel better soon.
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thank you for doing the research, organizing, and sharing this. it helps, like crazy.
You listed sources = you are an effing unicorn amongst youtubers = Subscribed. 💕
"False peaks on the learning curve lead people to overestimate their understanding of a subject" is a solid thesis, but the study also demonstrated that people who knew a lot about a subject expected to perform worse than they did.
What the study demonstrated is that self-perception more often skews towards average.
As someone who did a lot of surveys and survey analysis for college and had a subject on survey design, I both empathize to your supreme irritation at some of the answers and find it extremely hilarious that you didn't expect this outcome. If you design your survey such that it is possible at all for people to fuck it up I promise you they will.
oh I absolutely expected it! I just didn't expect it to be quite as bad as it was lol
"Thou askest me the meaning of a curtain's color? 'Tis not so deep, brother. Verily, thy mother was deeper."
Shilliam Wakespeare.
I think it's "thine," not "that" in this case, but still funny 😂
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Not so =P
Thine corresponds to "yours"
(You, your, yours=thou, thy, thine)
"Thy book is on the table."
"The book on the table is thine."
Though, it will occasionally be paired with nouns beginning with a vowel, like "thine eyes" where conversely you'd also say "mine eyes".
I like learning. I believe that wisdom requires a deep understanding and love of our ignorance. To be trite, the path of the Tarot arcana starts with the Fool and ends with the Universe. I worry that thinking I'm "smart" will take wisdom from me. But it's also important for us to recognize when our practice is paying off, it's good to take to heart a positive trait we like to be, so long as we don't desire that trait so much that it prevents us from the discipline needed to maintain it.
I have to be okay with me being stupid; being ignorant. I have to find a way to love myself through that. Learning to be okay with vulnerability, to embrace it, and embrace the vulnerable you; the you who cares. It's so hard. We deserve to foster that safety within ourselves. But that too is a skill. It might be the most important skill there is.
Thank this video for highlighting curiosity. It is a critical emotion. I can say without a doubt that it has been curiosity and accepting my vulnerability that has gotten me out of the hellscape my life had been. Don't underestimate the beautiful wonder of a curious mind that can embrace the unknown and how small it makes us. In particular, curiosity in myself and the acceptance that I don't know all of myself. That I too am an unknown to be explored and embraced. It has never failed me to be curious about who I really am.
Re: Asians and association with intelligence. I have literally seen that model minority myth destroy the self esteem and hope of family and friends. They will struggle with math and say, what does it mean to be Asian and be bad at math, I must be stupid beyond help. They give up on going to college and dreams. Some of them fell into bad crowds after that. The fact that this has happened multiple times to people in my sphere is crazy. It breaks my heart, especially because we're Southeast Asian American we lack so much of the privilege, wealth, and support that the North Eastern Asians have. I just want to say that "positive racism" is still destructive, though obviously it's still got some privilege over victims of negative racism.
I wish we stopped treating people less for not knowing, when someone says they don't know something, I wish we could celebrate that this is a day they learned something new.
I thank my film studies professor for getting me to start to think more analytically and critically about any information I receive. I caused a love of film and reading and an interest in learning how to learn which Im learning there is no "aha, Ive finally arrived moment." Also I think the problem with people being so against critical thinking is that the people capable of teaching the skills make it seem like its an innate trait and not a learned skill which can come off as condescending.
Lowkey funny to watch this video while I take a break from trying to write an essay for my uni course. Really needed someone to remind me that research is supposed to be hard and sometimes mind numbingly boring and sometimes you just feel fucking stupid. The feeling of stupidity is just part of learning, I'm not stupid but in the moment I feel stupid. Need to remember that when I write these god damn essays.
Banger video as always.
Absolutely loving the sources in the description I cannot WAIT for this to drop I’ve missed you 🥰
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Your rant about people watching tiktok loudly made me feel seen.
I'm not a big believer in social etiquette, maybe because it's not natural for me and it was forced to me so hard that I became a people pleaser.
But, I think there is an argument for politeness. It's not being nice to people per se, it's being polite. I'm not that much of a people pleaser now but I still aim to treat people with respect and politeness because I see how it impacts both, the speaker and receiver. And it creates a better environment for interactions.
Also, I know some people are afraid of using the word common sense because of a certain crowd... However, we shouldn't relinquish words because of who use them, they are still important to have in mind.
I really enjoy your video, it was relieving to know my worries about the modern world are also ofther people's worries. Much care! ✨
It was lovely seeing thos premier and hearing it all. Engagement, engagement. Send the link to friends. Etc.
thank you so much for coming!! 'twas so fun!!
Thank you for mentioning that we autistics do learn human social contracts even if it's more effortful to do so. As an old person, I find validation in this because I was just wondering why "how to do social thing" content feels hollow. It doesn't go past the basics that most of us do in fact eventually learn if other barriers aren't in place.
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I think true humility consists of remaining vigilant in how we classify and judge the world around us. The more we put in the effort to explore the world, the more we deal with our personal challenges, the more we recognize the distinction between the label we place on others and what happens when it's taken away, the more we open ourselves up to understanding people for who they are. We are all ignorant. To not be ignorant means to live a thousand lives, an impossibility. We are a complex species, and assumptions about people, based uniquely on external signs interpreted subjectively rather than objectively, only lead to unnecessary bias. Someday, I hope we will hold more open-minded discussions, and learn from other people's experiences. Completely shutting down opinions because we disagree with them only reduces the scope of our understanding. The people we judge most harshly have the most revealing stories, that can’t be gauged without constructive discussion. We should be encouraged to exchange opinions, as it is then that we open ourselves up to the world. But first, we need to learn to listen to opposing views with patience. We must avoid rushing to make assumptions about people's backgrounds and intelligence based on inconclusive, biased evidence. Only then can we foster a more respectful and tolerant society.
i'm reminded of when Skinamarink came out, and there was a small group of people adamant that those who enjoyed (or even watched!) the film were fine with hurting children. they couldn't conceive of simply exploring how scary it could have felt to be home alone at so young an age. i get that people want to turn their brains off and just enjoy a fun story from time to time (which is healthy), but that got taken too far into "media's supposed to entertain me, not make me think", which mutated into "consuming troubling media makes you a morally questionable person" and the "thing good/bad" brainrot of online spaces.
There has been a time, were i felt like I couldn't learn anything, despite great marks in school. Any puzzle game would frustrate me and I never figured them out, till I played one type of puzzle that I have seen many videos about, Killer Sudoku. A few years later and I can type on the numberpad really fast and confident, I can solve many different puzzle games and I figured out programming. This taught me higher tolerance for frustration which allowed me to beat some hard puzzle videogames like the "The Witness" without looking up solutions - these are just games, but I'm still proud. Started studying computer science, btw.
It was hard, but I had quiet a lot of support from my therapist and I don't have to worry about money too much. It pains me to think, where other people could be with this kind of support or where I would be without it.
Still some things occluded me, like fast text comprehension? I can't figure an efficient way to summarize a text or video without forgetting to much or losing the main point? It feels like I must remember every single word or I will miss something or I get something wrong. Going slower helps, but you can't do that when your time is limited?
honestly it just takes practice!!
re: Fast text comprehension, I read quite fast in general, but there are speed reading apps that can help with text that isn't super dense (you can read single paragraphs at a time and reread them if you want, but for super dense text it's annoying to do it in the app). The apps flash single words at a constant speed so if you struggle with speed they can help sometimes. They're not perfect, and there are criticisms to be made about single words vs sentences, but if it can be a tool that helps you.
I'll watch the whole video later because now I have to sleep but here's my reason for why we need to ask questions like "Why are the curtains blue?": because it's fun.
I enjoy trying to analyze something and find a meaning in some piece of media and I'm sure that most people also love do so. It's an opportunity to bring up interesting thoughts and share weird, silly or cool ideas with others. If the curtains are just blue, then that's end of discussion. Everyone goes home with nothing gained.
Not going to lie- Being undiagnosed autistic/adhd growing up and having a robust curiosity around learning and knowledge WHILE understanding how important education was to my family and myself- The bullying was intense. Even from classmates who were better off than my family financially speaking. It was “lame” to show enthusiasm and engage critically with public school. The working class has been brainwashed I swear
This is so interesting to me because as someone who has a biology degree and was taught experimental design and how to read papers and analyze data... I actually don't mind being wrong about things. It's something I've had to get really comfortable with in college and in research, and learning/being intelligent should teach you to be comfortable with the fact you CAN be wrong and you should challenge your viewpoints, because you don't know everything. Like you said, it's the lack of curiosity and unwillingness to be wrong that makes people stupid imo.
Now... Not EVERY scientist is like this. But I think if you actually integrate the teachings into your life it should.
This is great! I’m currently in the process of writing my first video essay, and it’s so encouraging to see others who’ve already established a bit of a presence here on TH-cam writing such incredible work.
Also, the HBomberguy extrude joke sent me rolling, lol.
Sending you the strength to finish that essay!!
@@talistheintrovert Thank you! I really, really do appreciate it.
Just for accountability, since I have ADHD as well, I’ll tell you the topic:
public art (aka: why i get sentimental about those scribbles carved into restroom stalls)
Joke’s on you, I love both silly TV retrospectives AND video essays! Take that!
I don’t know WHY but I cackled when you came back with “what is learning”😭😭
51:27 the problem with that line of thinking is that when you're autistic that kind of thing is used to bully you for being a picky eater anyway so no it's not "obvious" that you're exempt? Besides if someone is a "picky eater" there might be a ton of reasons you're not seeing so why would you assume it's a failing on their part and that it's ok to make fun of them?
when people say "I'm autistic" in response to that it's because they know there's a stigma that exist and that goes unquestionned often.
People aren't centering on their experience being exception just to be obtuse, it's because these exceptions are often overlooked and people talking in generalization without caveat directly harm them.
Same with the slow walker exemple, like nobody would answer "I was born with one leg" cause that one is obvious, on the other hand "but I have chronic pain" is something that's invisible and people might still give you shit for walking slowly?
I find it kinda ironic that those exemple about being obtuse and not trying to understand what other are saying are themselves missing the point the person is trying to make.
Like, yeah maybe the thing isn't about you but maybe it should be? Like a lot of those often actually *are* about the people that feel targeted except the person doing the targeting don't realize it because they conceptualize it as a morale failing.
To give an other autism exemple, someone might complain about people that don't give eye contact and are weirdos and if you say you don't give eye contact because you're autistic they'll say "no it's ok for you", but like, what are the odds that the "weird people that don't make eye contact with them" were autistic in the first place? I'm going to hazard an "extremely high" answer. So they were actually being ableist, they just didn't know they were being ableist.
There are many exemple like that so I think often getting frustrated with people feeling targeted rather than trying to figure out why they feel targeted can lead to missing some glaring blind spots you have.
Not saying people completely missing the point don't exist, people that are willfully obtuse are also plenty but it's so easy to assume a random text comment you get is from someone being obtuse.
I don't know if I'm making much sense but yeah this is all rubbing me the wrong way and I feel like I'm going to be accused of being obtuse myself by saying this which doesn't help.
yeah I do feel like you're taking the worst possible assumption out of that, but I do understand that because I've done that myself when sweeping statements are made that could apply to me. The important thing isn't that that person is or isn't talking about you, it's whether it's worth escalating that into a comment or a conflict. Is that worth YOUR time? Is it worth your emotional energy?
@@talistheintrovert I mean, if someone is making sweeping statements that affect how people treat me yes?
Besides it doesn't have to be conflict, I don't know if someone is spending their time discussing something they think it's worth discussing so I don't see how it's wasting anyone's time or energy to discuss it.
If I assumed the person was just acting in bad faith and being biggoted then yeah it wouldn't be worth it, but if I think they're well meaning and have a blind spot it seems reasonable to want to discuss it
I completely agree with you. Those sorts of sweeping, generalized claims need to be challenged for two reasons:
1. For those people to learn that black-and-white statements are never as simple as they are and
2. For the people who are described by said statement to know that they're okay, they shouldn't be ashamed or feel bad for the way they are.
Really, I just think that judgements are never smart or intelligent. There's such an easy way to say what was being said in the video in regards to people who walk too slow on a sidewalk, for example:
"I personally like to walk pretty fast. I sometimes get impatient when people in front of me don't walk as fast as I like! That's just me, though."
There you go, no harm, no foul. You've acknowledged that your preferences are different, not better or worse. Really, judgements are usually a tool that you use to get others to agree with you and validate your discomfort. It's rooted in insecurity. Same goes for, say, eye contact. "I get really uncomfortable when people don't maintain eye contact with me" goes over way better than "People should maintain eye contact to demonstrate that they are invested". So much judgment in that second one, versus the first one, which leaves room for someone else to go "Oh really? I prefer it when people DON'T look at me too much, it makes me uncomfortable!"
Let's leave the sweeping, broad declarations for disciplines or sciences (and even then, it's usually unwise to assume that we have the whole truth in our grasp), or to stop intolerance when it shows up. Otherwise, we can acknowledge that what we consider to be paramount is really just one way of living life and really, it doesn't harm us enough to risk hurting others and making them uncomfortable in public spaces by shaming it.
@@APurpleFable Thank you for the thoughtful answer ^^
@@talistheintrovert i agree A LOT about the "i like pancakes! so you must hate waffles." type of lack of reading comprehensive. but isn't it strange that the examples people give are so often about ableism or disabled people? the of-course-i-wasn't-talking-about-you reinforces that it's normal to not think about disabled people. which is what leads to people not caring about accessibility until, god forbid, they need it too. yes, some are obtuse, but i think there's TONS of examples that aren't as dismissive of ableism.
I'm at 17:06 (the video is long so I'm gonna have to watch it in parts) - I once had a crisis in re "am I stupid now?", because of a fun combo of unprocessed trauma and grad school, upon the backdrop of a global pandemic. Here's the definition I landed upon:
I define a “stupid decision” to be one which is taken without adequately processing the data available to you, even when you had the time to do so. I don’t decide the stupidity of the decision based on the outcome or the accuracy of the conclusions reached; you can’t control how things turn out, you can’t know what you don’t know and you won’t always know of the tints in your glasses - you are merely mortal, you can only try. A decision is only stupid when you didn’t try to take it well.
Okay, Imma go to therapy and come back at a later point!
Lack of compression 😂
"Once I achieve my final form as a .zip file, all of y'all are FINISHED !!!!"
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well CLEARLY they meant compression as "a way of encoding new information into your brain" so actually their answer is just too high level for you /s :P
Im smart because understanding things is my favorite feeling. Ive described my curiosity as compulsive, sometimes to a flaw. Gotta know it alllll
This is the kind of video I've been waiting to find for MONTHS!!! I live in the college town where the school has about a 95% acceptance rate, and the amount of people I've encountered who think they're smarter than me solely because they go to a university instead of the community college is BAFFLING. I was also a gifted kid with ADHD, but I hit a wall in middle school and wasn't able to return to that level of academic performance until I was a senior in high school. I have a wide variety of creative skills and enjoy learning new ones, but the only thing that makes other people think I'm "smart" is when I mention getting an AAS in Accounting.
Gen Z took typing lessons and had coding and computer science lessons from primary school to at least GCSE if not beyond. The learned helplessness issue is exclusive to Gen Alpha and is the fault of not anticipating a need to teach computer literacy the way it was taught to previous generations. I also don't understand people who get upset if there IS something I've not encountered before (say, how to fix a bike) and I ask or then start learning how to do that. As long as there is willingness to learn and accept areas of incompetance to improve upon, there is no issue.
I think schools should still do that. Alot of kids need to know how to use a computer and how to type. I understand with smartphones kids kinda get the gist but a screen and physical keyboard are completely different, plus there are alot more functions kids need to learn that can't be done on a smartphone.
Where are you from that you got to have computer science an coding classes at a young age?
5:46 That NPR story is one of my favourite articles of all time. Definitely worth a read to find out why.
Cannot express how perfect the timing of this video is.. I was the blue curtains type in high school, but a few days ago I was like, what if I could have learned something valuable and relevant in English class? At the very least, I now appreciate the balance that English provided against the more mathy subjects.