Wait. He states that the Alpha-2 Prototype charges in 15 minutes from 10 to 80% and that today's EV take twice as long to charge from 10-80%. This may be true of Tesla, but Porshe and Hyundai/Kia charge from 10 to 80% in 18 minutes due to 800-volt architecture (go watch Out of Spec as they have charging curves and demonstrations with the vehicles).
Yeah, the phrase “top selling” was doing a lot of work in that sentence. This would still be an improvement over what Hyundai has offered in terms of fast charging, but one important question is, “By how much?” People do love their time and will pay for every minute they don’t have to wait. 🤷🏼♂️
Note that Hyundai's E-GMP's platform can charge from 10-80% in 18 minutes. I think this is more about how the batteries are wired (series/parallel) and BMS cooling than the battery itself. You might want to test your batteries in a similar manner so you can compare with the industry leader rather than the "top selling long range EV".
In general, QS the battery start-up tends to make little news and few announcements between its quarterly reports, as you would expect of a company that remains focused almost entirely on research and development. When can we get the results of your recent deliveries, March 2024 ? At this stage: INFORMATIONS for shareholders, are MOST important !!!
I a, a little concerned with the q se5 whilst the technology is promising, I am concerned that the technology cycles of just 1000 test cycles to 95% isn’t much different form other providers who are seeing over 6000 -8000 cycles for 90%, that’s still twice the performance rate of the quantum’s pack , for a solid cathode that’s supposed to be free of dendritic effects , still seems quite low , and would be hit quite easily by commercial/taxi trucks , train utility usages and off grid battery backup , utility usage which would often see a 90% discharge means hitting that 95% in less than 3 years , well in line with other operators rival packs and as others have said some operators have already hit 800v 15 minutes charging to 80% , unless the pack can show complete flat curve all the way to 95% the cost per watt per kg still makes this considerably more expensive overall , it’s clear from demand people want more than 85kwh per pack equivalent to hit 300 + miles per charge , and right now vw need a commercial pack to match ev Silverado range at a lower cost yet still retaining the more than 10 year life span
Why does Quantumscape's progress seems soooo slow compared to Chinese battery makers. They have already overtaken QS in terms of charging speed at very low cost and long rage in ACTUAL VEHICLES. They are working on many chemistries simultaneously and talking with dozens of OEMs making deals. Something is very fishy. I so regret investing in QS and feel like a fool every single day that passes by. American companies are so slow compared to Chinese. Very very frustrating..
What's more important is that Chinese manufacturers don't even have billions of liquidity. QS has burned so much cash, but it hasn't even been able to declare success with a low volume production line.
Dictatorship has its privileges, that’s why the Chinese get shit done and have gone from farming rice to building skyscrapers and replacing a section of a bridge within a day, while here in the US it takes months. 😂
Chinese figures often include some "flexibility", when it comes to prove them. CATL of course really steps ahead and I don't know much about QS, except their stock went up 70% the last four days and I regret not to be invested...
It isn’t anything in range, because you could put more or fewer battery cells in either way. I’m sure they could cram enough cells into a car to get 500 miles with this technology because they can basically do that today. But the question is whether that’s a wise choice when 400 miles might be plenty for most people and a bigger battery adds cost.
Your average EV takes what? 15-25 kwh per 100 km, so you can calculate the size of your battery pack against that. Also your 2 units are fundamentally different as one is energy per volume and the other is energy per weight.
@@DurayneMost BEVs have batteries with gravmatic energy density listed, so Wh per kg. Most are between 140 to 300 Wh per kg, but I'd love to see a mass produced BEV battery with over 600 Wh per kg, which in a 400 kg battery would give 240 kWh, enough for most cars to go well over 1 000 km. Alternatively, a small car can have a 200 kg battery with 120 kWh. Maybe cars will have 300 kWh batteries in the future which takes less than 5 minutes to charge from 0% to 100%, but it's gonna take a lot of investments and R&D.
I feel sorry for the guys who has to appear in these videos... - Hey John, go read this script on camera, it's your turn this month. - Hey boss, may I skip this one - I don't feel energetic today... - Nah, everybody needs to take their turn, go do it, it's for 5 minutes ffs...
Highlighting the power density instead of energy density is a deliberate distraction. Cut the BS. What is the expected gravimetric energy density? And more importantly how about shedding some light on yield rates for B samples that you plan to ship this year.
@@vorpalinferno971114% is significant, but other things like the faster DC fast charging and increased cycle life would be the primary benefits if that’s truly the increase in energy density we’re looking at. Maybe those things combined with better cold weather performance, improved safety, etc. will prove a winning combination?
I bought also a lot becouse i beleved that this is a good idea and this need the world! Bill Gates Buy than will be ok no risk! I bought for 115 dollar a lot. And after i bought for 28 dollar and after for 7. The product looks even better. So i know that that first has to earn some money the company and after buy it! But not oly QS this is not the company fault. The problem here the Interest rate and the FED! If the interest rates become 2 % then will be 134 again the QS. Whatever they done until!
I hope this is really a step forward towards production .. I invested in this company like 3 years ago and still waiting for the productionization
Same here. I just keep buying as it continues to go down. Hopefully these guys finally get all these great ideas to the market.
Are you Indian?
Yes
What’s productionaztion?
If you did not have a return horizon of 10 years you did something wrong.
Finally some decent responses from QS..
Good stuff... keep it up
Awesome video. Looking forward to the specs of the next iteration of cells toward cells coming off thr cobra manufacturing line at scale!
Wait. He states that the Alpha-2 Prototype charges in 15 minutes from 10 to 80% and that today's EV take twice as long to charge from 10-80%. This may be true of Tesla, but Porshe and Hyundai/Kia charge from 10 to 80% in 18 minutes due to 800-volt architecture (go watch Out of Spec as they have charging curves and demonstrations with the vehicles).
Yeah, the phrase “top selling” was doing a lot of work in that sentence. This would still be an improvement over what Hyundai has offered in terms of fast charging, but one important question is, “By how much?”
People do love their time and will pay for every minute they don’t have to wait. 🤷🏼♂️
SLDP is history when this gets commercialized IMHO
Note that Hyundai's E-GMP's platform can charge from 10-80% in 18 minutes. I think this is more about how the batteries are wired (series/parallel) and BMS cooling than the battery itself. You might want to test your batteries in a similar manner so you can compare with the industry leader rather than the "top selling long range EV".
And fast charging those batteries can lead to rapid degradation. There is always a drawback.
In general, QS the battery start-up tends to make little news and few announcements between its quarterly reports, as you would expect of a company that remains focused almost entirely on research and development. When can we get the results of your recent deliveries, March 2024 ? At this stage: INFORMATIONS for shareholders, are MOST important !!!
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I a, a little concerned with the q se5 whilst the technology is promising, I am concerned that the technology cycles of just 1000 test cycles to 95% isn’t much different form other providers who are seeing over 6000 -8000 cycles for 90%, that’s still twice the performance rate of the quantum’s pack , for a solid cathode that’s supposed to be free of dendritic effects , still seems quite low , and would be hit quite easily by commercial/taxi trucks , train utility usages and off grid battery backup , utility usage which would often see a 90% discharge means hitting that 95% in less than 3 years , well in line with other operators rival packs and as others have said some operators have already hit 800v 15 minutes charging to 80% , unless the pack can show complete flat curve all the way to 95% the cost per watt per kg still makes this considerably more expensive overall , it’s clear from demand people want more than 85kwh per pack equivalent to hit 300 + miles per charge , and right now vw need a commercial pack to match ev Silverado range at a lower cost yet still retaining the more than 10 year life span
You should use condensing tech and zero deg from CATL,condensing is the only way to have a battery cells with over 450wh/kg cell energy density
Why does Quantumscape's progress seems soooo slow compared to Chinese battery makers. They have already overtaken QS in terms of charging speed at very low cost and long rage in ACTUAL VEHICLES. They are working on many chemistries simultaneously and talking with dozens of OEMs making deals. Something is very fishy. I so regret investing in QS and feel like a fool every single day that passes by. American companies are so slow compared to Chinese. Very very frustrating..
What's more important is that Chinese manufacturers don't even have billions of liquidity. QS has burned so much cash, but it hasn't even been able to declare success with a low volume production line.
Dictatorship has its privileges, that’s why the Chinese get shit done and have gone from farming rice to building skyscrapers and replacing a section of a bridge within a day, while here in the US it takes months. 😂
Chinese figures often include some "flexibility", when it comes to prove them. CATL of course really steps ahead and I don't know much about QS, except their stock went up 70% the last four days and I regret not to be invested...
Do someone know how much 800wh/l is in range ? Compared to wh/kg
It isn’t anything in range, because you could put more or fewer battery cells in either way. I’m sure they could cram enough cells into a car to get 500 miles with this technology because they can basically do that today. But the question is whether that’s a wise choice when 400 miles might be plenty for most people and a bigger battery adds cost.
Your average EV takes what? 15-25 kwh per 100 km, so you can calculate the size of your battery pack against that.
Also your 2 units are fundamentally different as one is energy per volume and the other is energy per weight.
@@DurayneMost BEVs have batteries with gravmatic energy density listed, so Wh per kg. Most are between 140 to 300 Wh per kg, but I'd love to see a mass produced BEV battery with over 600 Wh per kg, which in a 400 kg battery would give 240 kWh, enough for most cars to go well over 1 000 km. Alternatively, a small car can have a 200 kg battery with 120 kWh. Maybe cars will have 300 kWh batteries in the future which takes less than 5 minutes to charge from 0% to 100%, but it's gonna take a lot of investments and R&D.
I feel sorry for the guys who has to appear in these videos...
- Hey John, go read this script on camera, it's your turn this month.
- Hey boss, may I skip this one - I don't feel energetic today...
- Nah, everybody needs to take their turn, go do it, it's for 5 minutes ffs...
I mean, he did it well. 🤷🏼♂️
There's still a long way to go, but all the board members are selling their shares.
why only EV's?...I hope to find something like it in a cell phone...e.g. 3days battery life, 2min charging etc.
Highlighting the power density instead of energy density is a deliberate distraction. Cut the BS. What is the expected gravimetric energy density? And more importantly how about shedding some light on yield rates for B samples that you plan to ship this year.
Its a 14 % increase compared to Tesla.
So uh. . .some progress?
@@vorpalinferno971114% is significant, but other things like the faster DC fast charging and increased cycle life would be the primary benefits if that’s truly the increase in energy density we’re looking at. Maybe those things combined with better cold weather performance, improved safety, etc. will prove a winning combination?
I bought also a lot becouse i beleved that this is a good idea and this need the world! Bill Gates Buy than will be ok no risk! I bought for 115 dollar a lot. And after i bought for 28 dollar and after for 7. The product looks even better. So i know that that first has to earn some money the company and after buy it! But not oly QS this is not the company fault. The problem here the Interest rate and the FED! If the interest rates become 2 % then will be 134 again the QS. Whatever they done until!
Hey if i wanted to buy a qse 5 loke the one in the video what would that cost me?