Mercedes Timing Chain Install - How To DIY - Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In Part 2 of this video I show the step by step process on installing the timing chain on this Mercedes w204, showing the tools and the re linking of the chain.
Make sure to check out my first 3 videos on this job for the symptoms and the reason of failure & replacement - • Mercedes Timing Chain ...
This is the 4th video of a series on this failure and step by step repair.
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Camshaft Alignment & Adjuster Removal Tools ebay.us/NFVlxy
Timing Chain Fitting & Splitting Tool Kit For Mercedes Benz inc Temp chain links for install --- ebay.us/UUwLFF
(This is a better and more complete set than mine, it has assorted temp links which makes the job a lot easier)
Tool options that I recommend and use - www.amazon.co....
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GerardBurke is a qualified motor technician who has completed modules & courses in manual handling and all aspects of workshop safety. These videos are not intended to be used by anyone who is not trained and or qualified to carry them out.
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w204 w203
Camshaft phaser
c class c180 coupe
Fault code P0340-62 Intake Camshaft electrical fault signal comparison fault stored on a Mercedes Benz C Class with a M271 Engine.
#HowTo #Mercedes #TimingChain
I hope you all enjoyed this series, showing how I diagnosed the fault and the detailed repair/replacement process.
Playlist link here for previous videos th-cam.com/play/PLlihuiJTGmmzkXlpl-AR3wlh5EqGRbF9N.html
The footage I used in this video was the best I had and between all the videos I believe there is very valuable information for anyone that has never done this job before.
As always thanks for watching and I hope you see you in the next one :)
Can you be more specific on the torque spec of the t100 bolt please. Over 100nm referring to anything above 100 or is there a specific torque spec? Pardon my ignorance on this.
Great video , footage was fine too . I noticed you turned the crankshaft to wind on the new chain , the engine must be a non-interference one or did I miss something.
Great video m8 ? How much would a job like this cost ?
Just watched your Merc timing chain series, very helpful thanks for your effort. 1 question, did you replace the guides at all or is this not necessary?
Thanks, but I'm afraid you wasted a great opportunity to show the reinstallation of the cam adjusters. That is not exactly "straightforward", as stared, for a beginner trying to learn from your videos.
i dont own a merc and prob never will, but as an engi-nerd i enjoy watching ur vids.
I appreciate that, thanks for watching 🤗
Great follow up Gerard!
Gotta love cable ties - should be in every techs toolkit! 😁
😉👍 Absolutely 😂
Great series! The footage is perfect. Lot of substance!
Just like to say thanks so much for the video. Was an enormous help. As you said there was nothing out there so it helped me do the chain on my c180 compressor from 2006. The vvt is a little different but still excellent. Thanks for making the effort
Very informative video, not something I want to do but I now know how to do it if I have to
Fantastic series! You might make note/mention that Mercedes recently extended the warranty of the camshaft adjusters to 10 years/unlimited miles. As such, if the car owner can show reasonable proof of scheduled maintenance they should be able to get the dealer to perform this procedure under the extended warranty.
It's actually 10 years or 120k miles mate !
As I sit here looking at my faulty camshaft adjusters with the engine completely torn apart... I am suddenly asking myself "why didn't I know this earlier!!" Too late now... time to finish the job... thanks for the info though!
3 thumbs up for this from Germany. I am wondering not to turn the camshafts by feeding the chain but obviously it works.
Hello, excellent video.
Where can I acquire a full timing kit, as well as the tool for the cams? Thank you all.
Thank you Jimmy. You are a star
Very well explain....carry on the good vídeos upload!!!! Cheers from Portugal and Stay safe!
Thank you Ricardo 🙏🙏🙌
this videos very well done Could have done whit this last year Regarding the kit for the chain they come in different sizes The 1st one I bought From Amazon Was 50 pound The fittings were 4 or 5 mm And did not fit my chain Then ordered another one online Seeley £275 This one had all different sizes and included the 3 mm this one fitted my Mercedes which was a 1.8 CGI 2012 Hope this helps
so what are the exact torque specs for the bolts on the phasers? I heard 90 and then heard "over 100". If it was stated in another part of the video, I must have missed it.....
Thanks for your time with the videos ,I'm assuming the 1.8 is a noninterference motor as you can wind the crank over and feed the chain around or am I missing something ?? thanks Gerard
That's what I want to know
Hi. Nice vids. Thank you for your time to educate some of us. I have one question. When you feed the new chain through did the crankshaft sprocket turn or you did not touched it with the chain?
You never showed/answered a critical question. How do you get the tensioner to engage once replaced?
I have heard you turn the crank backwards 1/2 turn, and it triggers the ratchet mechanism to engage. But that's just what I have heard. Is that the correct way to engage the new tensioner?
Great job! I used to do this same work in motorcycle engines… saludos!
Thanks Quirino 👍
Wow. 300,000 + kilometres. I never thought that this M271 engine (turbo version) can reach up to that much high milage.
Great video Ger thanks for sharing 💥
Cheers Eric
I've read elsewhere that its not possible to get the exhaust side timing mark exactly lined up even after doing this repair, on the kompressor versions of the M271 anyway. The example in this video is the turob version with a different timing chain. Were you able to get all timing marks exactly lined up?
How did you solve this problem because I have the same issue
Does the timing need to be reset/relearned? Can it be done by the scan tool or does it need MB?
hi, do u advice to change the timing chain even for lower mileage? 100.000km ?
If your merc is serviced at every interval and good oil is used like a 5w40 full synthetic then it should last longer, mostly it has a very audible noise when the chain starts to wear. I service my W203 C180 Kompressor myself and change the oil and oil filter at every interval and so far after removing the valve cover at 100000km my timing chain is still good. Check your timing chain every 50000km or so just to be sure. And when you have the extra money get the chain and sprocket kit so long as the timing chain will eventually wear it is inevitable
Fantastic video ❤️❤️
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Hey man - is it okay to rotate the crank while the camshaft adjuster tool is on the camshafts? I see that you only rotate the crank to feed the new chain in while the adjusters are removed from the camshafts. is that not going to mess with the valves/pistons touching or interfering?
Hi Ger
Is this engine an non interference since you could turn the crank and not the cams? Or am I missing something?
Yes, really! I was under the impression that 99% of engines made today were of the interference variety, especially something like a Mercedes Benz.
Thanks for your video. There is one thing I got confused. In the video 08:40, when you started to rotate the crankshaft to replace chain, the cams are fixed by the timing tool, which means the 16 valves are in the fixed position. The 4 pistons are up and down while rotating the crankshaft. Will the 4 pistons hit and damage the 16 valves?
Please I need a Display for the timing chain
Thumbs up. Very detailed video.
Just wondering as far as I know m271 engines are interference. I don’t see you removing cams
great sharing video
First time changing timing chain using open chain method, I have a (closed) new timing chain. I need to open (separate) it to install on engine, and then close (rivet) the chain once again…. My question is: Can you just reuse the connecting link or do virgin links need to be purchased somehow in order to close (rivet) the timing chain for final assembly?
Thanks
Hello! How did you unlock the new tensioner to push thr chain, after screw it in? You didn't say that. A new tensioner is in locked position.How did you "unlocked" it? Thanks!
good information thanks for sharing.
Thank you 🙏👌
Good job Gerard, Thankyou:):)
Cheers Pat 👌👍💪🙏🙌
How many hours of labour did you charge? Just give me an idea when i ask my local guy to do the job.
Hi Ger, is there a suitable aftermarket kit for my SLK 2008, 200 Kompressor 184CV, M271./ 171.954 engine?
How do you release the timing chain tensioner
what is the car on this particular video? C180/C200/C250? I'm driving a C250 with a timing chain replaced at 150k kms but amazed to see that this car has done 313k kms!
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍
Can you put a new link to the tools? Those are dead. Thanks!
Hi Gerard, thanks for your video unfortunately my w204 had chain issue 2days ago without code.this was confirmed by aa. Any advice pls. Thanks.
Very good
Hi Gérard my mechanic change timing kit. And now I have p0010 code car engine its shaking. You know why..??
We do quite a few of these at my Euroshop in NY. Only the Chinese kits make the proper size knurling/peening dye needed to knurl/peen the MasterLink studs that hold the link plate on. When using the OEM chain the die is only good for one use, before it's too marred up to reuse. MB offers the right die, pt# 271589016300 for $506 my cost. But it's not available. Does the kit you're using have the proper size dye and have you used it on an OEM chain? If so, can you tell me who's name is on the kit? Also, we are working on a trade-in program on repaired/welded cam shafts.
Thanks, Steve, PitBull Motors inc
hi. after i replaced the can gears , and tensioner, i see that the chain is loose in driver side,down in guide . What is the problem, ? in the left side,where the tensioner sits is tight, in the right side, is loose. is it normal because car is off and dont have oil pressure or what?
I done this 4 times and still idle speed is not correct. Even that I have all marks correct so do I have to keep the span on these wheeles when I tight them. I have a bit different model teher is no place for sany tools to keep it steady only one is this special tool which keeps the noses on right place
Is There anything specific that needs to be done after torquing down the timing chain tensioner to apply tension to the chain or do I just torque it down to 40 Nm and let it apply tension on its own?
I’m wondering the same thing. I’m wondering if you tighten it in all the way (threads all the way in) and then torque it, or just screw it in, torque it and wherever it stops it stops.
Hello, is it necessary to replace the chain ? I just bought c250 with 111k miles and I heard rattle that I believe it’s from timing chain while driving in slow stop/go traffic. No fault codes or issues ( except vibration Arround 3000 rpm in neutral). Car was neglected before.
I will check the timing and probably there is bad sprocket, I plan to replace the tensioner and sprockets ( if there is problem in them) also I have dealer type scanner can I catch worn sprockets by looking at the actual cam timing ? Thank you
Where is Burke’s garage
Question. I have a 2014 c250 with the m271 EVO 1.8 turbo . I have to change my cam phasers and chain etc... is there a reliable aftermarket kit I can purchase for my vehicle? Mercedes wants close to $ 2000.00 for just the two phasers not including anything else I’m going to need. Thanks
Did you find a good kit? Could you please let me know as I have the same exact car and same problem as you do
In November 2020 Mercedes extended the warranty on the camshaft adjusters to 10 years. Your dealer should fix the car under warranty.
@@therestorationshop 10 years or 120,000 miles whichever comes first unfortunately I'm at 145,000 miles
@@therestorationshop what if your not the original owner
@@5ivestarJaayy It doesn't matter, the warranty transfer with the sale of the car.
I would bet that a motorcycle chain tool will do this same job at a much cheaper price?? Why did you not use the vise grips and the extra chain coming out as a weight laying out over the fender going down to the ground, with a fender cover of course. I can see somebody allowing some slack, the chain falls out of time on the crank gear and the entire job is buggered. No live scan data or scope video of the VVT in action, hmmmmm
I also thought a motorcycle chain tool would do the job just fine
😅 Very good
can anyone send me a website or store to find a timing chain for a 2013 cls550 timing chain?
I'm from Germany good job! Is that the first chain with 300000km?
Cheers Mario, yes as far as we are all aware this is the first one.
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage Thank you! I have the same Engine with 223000km and first chain. The M271 ist a very solid engine. But the chain is not the best. You make a good job!
How much would this cost to have done ?
The dealership quoted me about 3,000$ to 3,500$
If you do it yourself probably 1,000$
@@I_AM_THAT_PLANE_GUY Ask your dealer again, they should cover this under warranty. This warranty is _for the car_ and thus transfers with ownership transfer. If you can show you've done regular oil changes with an MB approved oil you should be able to get the work performed free of charge.
@@therestorationshop the final quote was $2,350. The warranty was extended to 120,000 miles however mine is at 145,000 miles so it wasn't covered. I just spent a day and change the adjusters myself for $800
@@I_AM_THAT_PLANE_GUY I didn't see the mileage limit in the letter we received but it sounds like you handled it with very little issue anyway. Congrats on a job well done! Our car is under 100K miles so I'm hopeful it will be done under warranty and I don't have to do this procedure.
Can I get one to buy am in Ghana
Great job! I would never buy one!
techier
Do the valves hit when you bar the crank over or have the lifters been taken off? Also, can the tensioner be taken out for checking on its own? I have a c180 compressor 2003 but not sure if its Variable valves. chain jumped apparently and a garage put it back in place but reported it as very lose. Dose the tensioner have oil pressure as well as a spring behind it? The car belongs to an old boy and its not cost effective to get a garage to deal with it. So I may have a go. I am a diesel fitter so within my capability but Im just thinking blind at the moment. If I take it apart ill be committed.
If you change the chain also change the tensioner, the tensioner has a habit of getting stuck if the chain wear is heavy
Ni entendí ni una mierda, para que quitar eslabones y agregar y luego quitar mas y agregar!?!?
es para guiar la cadena nueva a traves y en el ciguenal, cuando sale completa del otro lado sele quita para desconectar la nueva de la vieja.y se une finalmenten la nueva con la nueva.
tambien en el proceso se mueve el ciguanal.
Were can i find a kit