It's Topical | Gordhan's legacy divides opinion

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  • @peterjordaan9025
    @peterjordaan9025 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The question is: What legacy? the less said about him the better

    • @amm7088
      @amm7088 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @peterjordaan9025 grow BRAIN Mr Clueless ! clearly you know little about history

  • @cromwellmkhwane4575
    @cromwellmkhwane4575 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    The man was a disaster. Wrecking havoc at every ministry he has led

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hatred rules you, my guy!

  • @rajpapa3574
    @rajpapa3574 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Theres not a single anc politician that is honest. Corruption starts at the top. .

    • @nomalungelongcete5875
      @nomalungelongcete5875 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So true

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you perfect? You don't even yourself😂

  • @MkhontoNsele
    @MkhontoNsele หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    South Africans are observant, discerning and alert. People will not be blindsided by the media. Abantu are tired of empathizing and applauding nonsense when they're views are consistently ignored and undermined🇿🇦

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What would you have done better if you were given the portfolios he headed? Absolutely nothing better!

    • @tspen4128
      @tspen4128 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mpho-i3pexactly! People tend to be myopic or only choose to view history from a certain point...This very video discusses the fact that public enterprises were already in shambles when he arrived! He did his best to try stem the flow of disaster and did a great job with sars...Now the question is, how successful was he in doing these tasks and what obstacles did he encounter while trying to do so... Whatever the answer to those are, it doesn't/shouldn't warrant the disrespect and vitriol he gets. To me, it sounds like a lot of the corrupt or benefactors of the destruction of our public enterprises are the ones making the most noise now, cause he tried to stop their unchecked looting of our state.

  • @Cozy2961
    @Cozy2961 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    He was very arrogant and refused to take accountability.. One is remembered for their final deeds, no adult can be remembered as being a sweet baby .. Dying doesn't make you a saint.

    • @dilochetty9332
      @dilochetty9332 หลายเดือนก่อน

      which accountability ??

    • @zulumama
      @zulumama หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly 💯

  • @basilhendricks788
    @basilhendricks788 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    He increased our petrol prices more than 10 rand for levies he was crap

  • @tumibaloyi2915
    @tumibaloyi2915 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    His daughter says what deteriorated his health was the possibility of his arrest. Tells you all you need to know. Why would an innocent man be bothered by "corridors gossip" and the connecting of dots?

    • @Bee-dp3st
      @Bee-dp3st หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly 😂

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly

  • @andreasmayer9009
    @andreasmayer9009 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    RIP - He was part of a corrupt system , and as such he is as guilty as the rest. You cannot tell me he didn't know, or have the inside information to pass on to the authorities.

    • @dilochetty9332
      @dilochetty9332 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have you forgotten that he was charged over many untrue things because he went after the corrupt? the malemas and zumas.. or is your memory lost?

    • @rajpapa3574
      @rajpapa3574 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andreasmayer9009 💯. Now they will treat him like a saint. Gordhan took his secrets to the grave. The anc has failed the people of SA.

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who are you to judge? Are u perfect yourself. What legacy would you leave urself?😊

  • @melvinnetshirungulu1068
    @melvinnetshirungulu1068 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Should have retired when we still loved him stay too long in a seat of power you will eventually become the villein they never learned anything from Nelson Mandela

  • @Philjamon
    @Philjamon หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I won't miss him or his lies on TV. He let the country down along with all of the ANC, 2008 - 2024.

  • @masibam7752
    @masibam7752 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    A spade should be called a spade

  • @RK-ln6kg
    @RK-ln6kg หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank PG for your service. 💐🙏

  • @AndreCillie
    @AndreCillie หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    His daughter is the one that did all the deals

    • @dilochetty9332
      @dilochetty9332 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and u did no deals.. sorry for u

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any proof to that effect?

  • @tumibaloyi2915
    @tumibaloyi2915 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    33 minutes "you can not please everyone. Some people will be happy and some will not be". Just look at who is happy and who is not to see what he chose. So, he made his bed. Those who were happy with him must celebrate him but they must not try to throttle the opposing views.

    • @BrianWilliams03
      @BrianWilliams03 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      💯💯💯💯💯
      Only the minorities and wmc oligarchs are happy while the majority citizens are suffering because of him🤞💯

    • @tumibaloyi2915
      @tumibaloyi2915 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BrianWilliams03 precisely

  • @sibongilechakela4468
    @sibongilechakela4468 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Pravin destroyed ppls lives

    • @VJ592
      @VJ592 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are too jealous

    • @phelelanimafuleka3854
      @phelelanimafuleka3854 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@VJ592 Jeolus about the destruction of the SOE's and ultimately destroying people's lives?

    • @nomalungelongcete5875
      @nomalungelongcete5875 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@VJ592
      Truth hurts

    • @njabulomsweli5057
      @njabulomsweli5057 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@VJ592U are another beneficiary of our S.E.O dat y u feel a nerve to defend such a cruelty

    • @VJ592
      @VJ592 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@njabulomsweli5057 you are ignorant SEO and the entire country is in decline for decades now people want to blame only one person.

  • @raymondjonkers9233
    @raymondjonkers9233 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What stands out for me, is that his responsible for the collapse of most state-owned entities.

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did he collapse them, or did the people do it!. He busted corruption reason why he is hated even during his death!

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Malema hated Gordan with passion that's All.

  • @sizwekhumalo3709
    @sizwekhumalo3709 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gordhan was for the rich , the poor and the working class suffered

  • @Mpho-i3p
    @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Eff has no regard for anyone even their own!

  • @NelsonNaidoo-n9v
    @NelsonNaidoo-n9v หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In JZ's first term he strategically placed his people in the SOEs. In his second term he said to PG:
    "It's time to eat at the table."
    PG replied:
    " Go ahead. I don't blame you. But leave me out of it."
    JZ: " But PG, you realise as finance minister you have you sign certain documents."
    That my dear South Africans, was the beginning of the end the JZ/PG friendship.

    • @fanamlawuli6761
      @fanamlawuli6761 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nonsense of a comment nonsense!

    • @mvelompanza3803
      @mvelompanza3803 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pravin never said this, it would be in his interest to say it. We must therefore regard your statement false untill proven otherwise

    • @kayrams1792
      @kayrams1792 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then why PG agreed to form the Rogue Unit in SARS under Zuma. The most treasonous that was supposed to be punished and blacklisted not to work in government again.

    • @unaramakuela4671
      @unaramakuela4671 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are talking nonsense! What about the corruption he committed while selling state entity like SAA for R51?

  • @zunabukosi9679
    @zunabukosi9679 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The only man who openly had a dual membership for DA & ANC.

  • @jabumanzini5505
    @jabumanzini5505 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His fight against corruption was selective, in fact he was only fighting individuals. He never said a work regarding Rand manipulation, even when Maria's Ramos admitted to doing it, he never said anything about Phalaphala.

  • @janmoolman
    @janmoolman หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As i look through nearly 100 coments there are barely 1 positive comment.The whole country has spoken,rest the case.

  • @Tizza.21
    @Tizza.21 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    We are not going to b apologetic abt depositing our dissatisfaction,blacks hv had a raw deal for a long tym nw.

  • @marymathibe2562
    @marymathibe2562 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙌🙌🙌🙌 More of You More power 🙌🙌🙌

  • @fanamlawuli6761
    @fanamlawuli6761 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Traitors against the people are highly celebrated by Capital, this failure (pravin), did nothing for our people, and now we are forced to mourn him,? Never, no matter how much sabc lies about his legacy

  • @lespratt3935
    @lespratt3935 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Please, please don't put Gordhan's passing on our networks

    • @bravolima7394
      @bravolima7394 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I imagine he'll soon have a street renamed after him, maybe even a small town somewhere.

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do urself a favor. You can close your network n not watch. Period!!

  • @louisnaidu9140
    @louisnaidu9140 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He really contributed to SA.

    • @Lyetnng011
      @Lyetnng011 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lost your mind?

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha หลายเดือนก่อน

      Negativity ,yes

  • @xolanimngcwabeothandaabazi6666
    @xolanimngcwabeothandaabazi6666 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Manuel is nothing but WMC garden boy

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...and what are you?

  • @zamopower2970
    @zamopower2970 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He represented the elite whites and was never an advocate for poor Blacks, Coloureds and Indians.

  • @galgamekthegreatlord4823
    @galgamekthegreatlord4823 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    SABC how much did the ANC pay you to run the stories? The whole country couldn't care less,cover some real news,waste of my taxpayer money.

  • @RazoMarazo
    @RazoMarazo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sickning vedeo to watch cleared zuma amongst/ against syndicate cartel ngoba engafundile kusho nina nimthuka

  • @judithkellerman612
    @judithkellerman612 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fall of eskom

  • @HughTrodden-mj2bv
    @HughTrodden-mj2bv หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now who will foot the bill for his " special " funeral , the ANC ? NO , THE COMMIE PARTY ? NO , Who's left ? Oh YES , THE TAXPAYERS , talk about IRONY , I wonder if the Govt will give the usual bag of groceries to his family !!! .

    • @dilochetty9332
      @dilochetty9332 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same ppl that will pay for zumas funeral.. u and me

  • @robert8552
    @robert8552 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "They must eat a bit" - regarding the corruption at Eskom

  • @JabulaniMathuthu
    @JabulaniMathuthu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I understand he wanted to sell SAA to his friends for R51

  • @cathyontong5324
    @cathyontong5324 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A PROMINENT PERSON IS JESUS.......

    • @cliffardgerber3830
      @cliffardgerber3830 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How does this have anything to do this news strory?

  • @Tizza.21
    @Tizza.21 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The analyst is talking a whole lot of nothing,rubish to b precise,b staight to the point,he failed to produce as SARS commissioner until Moyane came in and embarrassed him infront of the whole nation,Public Enterprises together with Jabu Mabuza,cutting maintainance cost at Eskom from 2018 and tht let to the demise of the entity,subsequent appointment of a delinquent CEO,De Ryter,selling of SAA assets to Takatso consortium by flouting PFMA's.

  • @ElmaWilson-t7i
    @ElmaWilson-t7i หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    STOP PRAISING GORDHAN, HE WAS NO HERO!

    • @MayvisNomsaMkhize
      @MayvisNomsaMkhize หลายเดือนก่อน

      He sold SAA

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are u one😊?

    • @ElmaWilson-t7i
      @ElmaWilson-t7i หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mpho-i3p yes i am a hero because i teach my children to respect their country, and not to mess it up like you do in your culture!

  • @daniegreyvenstein6120
    @daniegreyvenstein6120 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    He had his hand in the koekie jar

    • @rajpapa3574
      @rajpapa3574 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯 he and ramafailure are in cahoots.

    • @HughTrodden-mj2bv
      @HughTrodden-mj2bv หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it was a very DEEP jar !!! . And the ANC and The COMMIES LOVE KOELIES , I MEAN KOEKIES !!! 😂

  • @tumibaloyi2915
    @tumibaloyi2915 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But Khaya, he was alive until last week and has never acknowledged that he could have conducted himself better when accountability was required.

  • @JoachimKofahl-ou2yq
    @JoachimKofahl-ou2yq หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I once gave my business class seat because he was doing a great job but he was bad on S O U ,s especially S AA

  • @timothymeyer8540
    @timothymeyer8540 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    unfortunately misinformed people need to place the blame somewhere, but refuse to see the wood from the trees! PG dedicated his life to SA and made mistakes, but we need to understand that when you get a hospital pass 90% of the time its hard to recorrect... condolences to the family! I hope PG continues to lead from the grave...

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha หลายเดือนก่อน

      To the oligarchs

  • @Pack-ManT-B-Told
    @Pack-ManT-B-Told หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So……he went to a state owned hospital for treatment right????

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why is it a problem. SA I'd full.of broad spectrum of choice!! Why not choose the health facility of his own while others do

    • @Pack-ManT-B-Told
      @Pack-ManT-B-Told หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mpho-i3p Ah, makes sense now. I see you’re a product of one of those fine state schools, where critical thinking is optional. I guess it’s totally normal for someone preaching communism to skip the people’s hospitals and go for the private luxury - because who needs consistency when you’ve got choices, right?

    • @Pack-ManT-B-Told
      @Pack-ManT-B-Told 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mpho-i3p NHI…..??????

  • @BhekiVincentDlamini
    @BhekiVincentDlamini หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please let him rest in peace.

  • @RazoMarazo
    @RazoMarazo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Travor pls be honest

  • @MandisileDunjana
    @MandisileDunjana หลายเดือนก่อน

    We are not all blind as the media think we are

  • @picassocube3521
    @picassocube3521 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do we have to discuss the legacy, the legacy should speak for itself, Pravin was working for the markets, and nothing bad will come from Ramaphosa about Gordhan because they're both working for WMC, as a result we have a 'GNU', which is also loved by the markets, so as Trevor Manuel!

  • @ThattRoger
    @ThattRoger หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It shows there is one comment, but I can't see it. Are SABC hiding comments again?
    Edit: 3 comments

    • @mikejoneswho6753
      @mikejoneswho6753 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Looks like it. I can't view a comment, crirical of Pravin, which I left from my mobile when I check from my desktop (I'm not logged in on my desktop).

    • @simphiwemtiya7547
      @simphiwemtiya7547 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pravin was a sellout a wmc agency

    • @zunabukosi9679
      @zunabukosi9679 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

  • @sibongilechakela4468
    @sibongilechakela4468 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Pravin was evil

    • @MrMthethwa86
      @MrMthethwa86 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True

    • @jesusistruth9424
      @jesusistruth9424 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Evil and how so- Are you guys clean?

    • @JabulaniMathuthu
      @JabulaniMathuthu หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jesusistruth9424if we are not clean, does that make him an angel?

    • @Mpho-i3p
      @Mpho-i3p หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are u holi?

    • @sibongilechakela4468
      @sibongilechakela4468 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mpho-i3p Yebo compared to Pravin

  • @PhumzileMtshali-dp8dw
    @PhumzileMtshali-dp8dw หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohh well R.i.p P G u did the best of u😂

  • @sandrahorstmann9013
    @sandrahorstmann9013 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dealer is as quilty as the stealer right.

  • @RK-ln6kg
    @RK-ln6kg หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    He made major impact in Sars and turned into a world class institution. Thank you for your service PG.

    • @phelelanimafuleka3854
      @phelelanimafuleka3854 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And created rogue units to slander his opponents.

    • @mphotheapologeticsguy2685
      @mphotheapologeticsguy2685 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      world class based on what ?????

    • @Tizza.21
      @Tizza.21 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not really

    • @TnT011-r4b
      @TnT011-r4b หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He failed to deliver, he created rouge units and Moyane came in and showed him what black excellence is. Jamnandas was dead wood

    • @Bee-dp3st
      @Bee-dp3st หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your standards are very low.

  • @NirmalaMoodley-h2l
    @NirmalaMoodley-h2l หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent show Blaine Herman ,Trevor Manual and the team 👏 on the Legacy, debated of Pravin Gordhan MHSRIP Hamba Gashle dear, SA's activist. ❤

  • @sylviabooysen4622
    @sylviabooysen4622 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am sure their is other things happening in SA? You lazy journalists do something investigative!

  • @krishnanaidoo2758
    @krishnanaidoo2758 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had occasion to work with PG before the run up to our first democratic election in 94. He came to my home im Mayville, Durban to address the electorate in my suburb. A articulate man who truly put his country first before himself and family.

    • @TnT011-r4b
      @TnT011-r4b หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gow many companies did he have and gow many did business with the state? Why did he sell off SAA at a fraction of ehat it was worth? Why is Eskom performing just after powers were removed from him?

  • @NirmalaMoodley-h2l
    @NirmalaMoodley-h2l หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pravin Gordhan was a giant, whose stature and calibre ,speaks volumes of A Great Man ,SA's parliament/ country , has lost to an early higher calling. Served every portfolio held , with astute intelligence, diligence, and integrity ,thru challenges endured.
    Righteousness / liberation for all who lived inSA, that's our Elder Pravin Gordhan.

  • @beverlyjansen4313
    @beverlyjansen4313 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can the media stop with this gossip about Pravin and give the grieving family the time to give their loved one a dignified funeral.

  • @sydneymaseko924
    @sydneymaseko924 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Àmen

  • @Lyetnng011
    @Lyetnng011 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All ANC and its break aways should expect the same when their day comea including all politicians, people hate you for legitimate reasons

  • @Lyetnng011
    @Lyetnng011 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anti-apartheid vet? Apartheid is stronger than ever thanks to him and ANC

  • @Lyetnng011
    @Lyetnng011 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anti-apartheid vet? He strengthend apartheid coz its stronger than ever!

  • @jabumanzini5505
    @jabumanzini5505 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    His fight against corruption was selective, in fact he was only fighting individuals. He never said a work regarding Rand manipulation, even when Maria's Ramos admitted to doing it, he never said anything about Phalaphala.

  • @tumibaloyi2915
    @tumibaloyi2915 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But Khaya, he was alive until last week and has never acknowledged that he could have conducted himself better when accountability was required.