You would think differently if you had ever encountered him at close quarters. He undermined black people. He found me chatting with some important American people at a conference organised by our government. Walked up to us, read my name tag, completely ignoring me other than that, then broke into our conversation addressing the yte Americans only, without even a nod in my direction. The Americans were so embarrassed they quickly made excuses about returning to their seats and walked away. He immediately followed them to his seat which was in the same area as theirs. That’s just one example.
Ezekiel 18:24 : But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
Klein, he did well at SARS but was terrible at Finance Ministry. Go look at the Budgets from 2009 to 2014: that is when the deficit worsened. I agree that coming out of the 2008 financial crisis governments needed to spend but as FM you need to guard the deficit, if it is being spent on consumption rather than fixed capital formation.
We were oppressed as a “RACE not “CLASS”him being a pharmacist doesn’t mean he was immune from apartheid contagious..We were affected,all of us,irrespective of even disability..how cruel was apartheid...
We don't go with things of this world but we go because of Jesus if believe he died and rose again and follow his word s that teaches how to live life of holiness then you go to heaven of God
im not buying this bela thing .. my question is, why always wanting to take away something that works when others you are in charge of dont work? same with nhi, cannot fix public hospitals but what to take over the private ones.. if som1 works hard and can afford pvt care, what is the problem? government should be using our tax money to get public hospitals to function lik pvt hospitals.. their are schools in kzn which use zulu as main language. their are schools in eastern cape that use xhosa.. so are they also goin to be forced to change ? its nonsensical and does not solve any problem.. if you dont speak afrikaans, go to a school which u are comfortable with.. we dont see english speakers or afrikaans speakers fighting to go to zulu speaking schools.. how come? JJ, the focus should be on changing those poor schools into the same standard as the afrikaans schools.. u cannot blame them for governments failures.. governments hav taken our tax money for 30 years..please show us the success stories when it comes to schools and hospitals in past 30 years? by now we should have had no poor hospitals.. who do u blame for the looting ? are afrikaaners or som1 to blame?
Some fair comment on Pravin. But let’s be realistic. When he took over the SOE’’s. They were already a sink hole, all of them. When you have a business like transnet that procures trains that can’t fit on the South African rail tracks what do you? People expected miracles from him when there were sea of hyenas around the hyenas. When you have a ceo of Eskom that focussed on writing a book in the three years he was employed. What do you do. cEOs that don’t do their job. And you expect a minister to resolve the problems. Country, please not be stupid in mass. But we are.our stupidly killed him.
What your explanation for Pravin attempting to sell SAA for R51 and then rushing to seal all documents that pertain to that deal so that you, the tax payer could never find out why he chose to sell the SOE for R51?
@marabunya you and I pumped 50 billions into saa in past 15 years to keep paying for corruption of dudu myeni and others.. do u prefer to pump another 50 billion into saa? Money that could hav build 1 million houses? So when u say sold for r51, you must also give the context and history, but with 30% education, many cannot think past ter nose.. and it was not r51, their were condition like takatso had to put 2 million into saa as working capital.. pravin was doing the country a favor buy getin rid of somtin that was draining our tax money. It's only when pvt sector was running saa did we start seeing a turn around.. excess dead weight in terms of staff were fired and it started operating like a business, not a looting vehicle that it was..once that happened, suddenly the past rot was forgotten, and pravin became the bad guy
Bela Bill will do nothing for vanacular languages. Afrikaans schools will be replaced with english schools, deep down we know it. As black people, we must just be honest and say we are fighting for English😅
Fighting to disrupt the Afrikaans speaking community by any means neccessary.. Hogging every lever and space in this country.. Using the Afrikaans speaking community As crunches to Lean ON.. Ride the gravy train of functioning institutions of education and ruin them.. Because black people cant do it themselves... If Black people can do it.. They must show it... Build functional languages that can translate into the industry.. But Black people cant.. So to take a short cut.. Wait for the Afrikaans speaking community to build these instituitions and then want to be included(claiming public interest) .. Take them over and ruin them.. Look at Forthare....majority of black schools disfunctional.. In every sphere.
illegal immigrant children won't need documents for schools and you can't deport parents of a child in school? The worst people who will affected are Black South Africans' kids who will be squashed like sardines in classrooms, you'll see after the futsek makgowa euphoria wears off.
Black Africans generally speak English as a home language. Mother tongue education is also not something new. In fact James Henderson (Lovedale's third principal) was advocating it in the 1930s. So JJ get your historical facts straight instead of perpetuating myths!!
If there is anything you said, that I agree with is that ANC is lucky to have someone like Mbeki still leaving in this crisis time the ANC is facing. Anyway, the truth is Renew or Die. Finish and Klaar.
How many schools did anc govt build over 30yrs. Now small black kids must travel every day in grandfather's bakkie to other areas that dont have a black language. Who is to blame? not the DA
For me mbeki is nothing but a selfish pompous individual. Under his watch 3000 people died from aids. He don't care. He also wanted to overstay his Wellcome as ANC leader.
JJ you've only zoned in on one aspect of the Bela bill and using that to endorse it in its entirety including the flawed aspects.. The department of education is struggling with a shortage of skilled teachers and there currently many vacant teacher positions even though the system is producing more than enough teachers annually, so what's happening there? The Gauteng government has just cut the education budget by over R4Billion for the 2024/2025 financial year, at the same time, the Bela bill says Grade R should be compulsory (which is good) but that alone will require an additional R12Billion! This doesn't make any sense at all! Some aspects of the bill are indeed great as you've highlighted but some aspects were not supposed to have been included, at least not until the government has the capacity and resources for those other clauses in the bill.
The media freedom in South Africa is insane & we take it for granted😂😂 In most parts of the world you cannot criticize & speak against government like this without going missing...I agree with JJ, South Africa has not had a President since Thabo Mbeki.
Ezekiel 18:24 : But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
JJ Tabane my friend you tried but on this one you've drawn a blank. We're talking here about a person who was a public figure. You cannot dictate how people must feel about Pravin Sorry.
You're starting with your mealy-mouth rubbish... A minister is not responsible for the day-2-day running of a company! He cannot be blamed for the collapse of the entity he has political head of, the beraucrats are... The blame for the failure of SOE's lies squarely on the hands of the board and management. The minister just ensures that the strategic discretion kept, the budgets are met and very little else!! Private foibles of a public figure are just that... Public wrong doing like corruption or moral failure are what should concern us, nothing more!!
When Pravin Gordhan's UDF participation is narrated by the myth makers, one could be forgiven to believe that Gordhan is actually the resurrected Archie Gumede - founder-member (from the then Natal) of the UDF, and subsequently that party's president. There seems to be this concerted zeal to over-inflate his UDF years, artificially raising his activism to the highest levels of valour. In the military, they would say this was "stolen valour" by the narrators on his behalf. JJ is correct to separate Gordhan's record as an activist from that of him as a politician. As an activist, however, as admirable that activism was, he must not be fashioned into something akin to what someone like Archie Gumede was in the UDF!
Can one or two actions sully, despoil, erase, devalue the heroic legacy of a struggle hero? And I ask this question not restricted to the South African context but internationally. in my view I believe a single action can belittle the legacy of a political liberator. Secondly, is it fair to separate the legacy of a struggle hero from that of a public servant after 'victory'?
I dont think you have read the BELA bill. Parents can be jailed, the language change is great, but the rest, seriously. The minister is correct, how is the grade R requirement going to be funded? There is not enough money in the budget to support this? SADTU and those useless unions who just keep asking for more money but cant even do their job properly. These are serious problems, that need to be fixed and addressed.
ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS TO DO IN South Africa IS TO TELL THE TRUTH. WE ARE SO USED TO BIAS AND FAVOURITISM TO A DEGREE THAT WE ALLOW WRONG PEOPLE TO BE HAILED AS HEROES. OUR SOEs ARE MADE TO FAIL SO AS TO PRIVATISE THEM. INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE SOURCE PEOPLE TALK OF STATE CAPTURE WHICH TILL TODAY DOENT MAKE SENSE AT ALL
You talking nonsense, SOE was failing cos black ppl where not competent. We wont admit cos we dont want to accept blks are just incompetent at the moment...it will change when our kids become much more educated. There are a few of us that know the truth. Do you know how many of us live life very secretly without telling the truth cos we scared of being killed with our families. So dont talk nonsense, PG knew what he was against but he fought like a soldier.
Pravin may have participated in the struggle, but he did not belive in the original ideologies of the ANC. They played a role in stalling RDP and introduced GEAR which dismally failed. Anyone going back to the critics of GEAR when it was introduced, will realize that high inequality, high unemployment, high interest rates, abject poverty, financially orientated state, rampant corruption, and collapse of State Institutions are the consequences of GEAR. SAn masses who rendered the Appartheid regime ungovernable, those who matched, those who were beaten and shot at, are the ones who played critical role iin the struggle. The role of some leaders are exaggerated.
I like your analysis bcs it realistic n I think the sad truth is politicians shade each other whenever one drops the ball n that what Pravin did n for that he became a face of privatization however as for ANC's renewal,it will be futile if the Phala Phala man is still the head as this remain the biggest scandal that is clouding the ANC.
JJ!? Are you all saying South African themselves never fought for freedom against apartheid. You irritate when you all make this fight for names. Show me one person who did not fight then and let us insult that person. Suka!
JJ Rants! Everyone in this c SA is free to have their own opinions an you are saying that yourself. Everyone has a good and a bad side. If people see different things in them. Don't critic fhe person but their activities as long as they character especially when they are consciously knowing it. Enea Motaung. S Johannesburg. Gauteng Province.
You may be correct or incorrect in your statements, but at least you can have some respect for his family. During this time. This applies to anyone who lost their loved one.
they all start as struggle stalwarts that is the entry level to quick wealth, wrong again for JJ what did he do for Sars except for rogue unit and don't forget Sars under Zuma collected for the first time broke the trillion rand tax collection so let's cut this notion that Zuma did a disservice to Sars
Dint be stupid English is a superior language...all laws of physics maths r in English accept that that's why foreigners r better coz they r taught good English from a young age...we hv to beat the system not try to b comfortable our languages hv very small vocabulary ...the moment u air Yr show in setswana ull hv limited views
Jj, I am not convinced on your review of Pravin because you stayed away from the big elephant in the room which is the fact that he own shares in almost every big company in SA and those companies traded with the state. I wonder why was that.
a lot of respect for you JJ you are a seasoned journalist. the challenge with politics is that politicians realise that political life is short, they are getting old, they have nothing,so they try to grab something financial, hence the CAUSE OF CORRUPTION. lets face it, Poverty is the cause of corruption. A politician looks at his life, it is coming to an end, yet he has nothing, so he tries to grab somethinG. Rememebr Gwede saying he has four degrees yet people in the private sector are earning more than him. That statement spoke volumes. I got shocked when I heard him saying that. Coming from a background of poverty ,it is very difficult to crack it to the middle class(BOURGEOISIE) from LUMPEN to PLORETARIAT to PETTY BOURGEOIS to BOURGEOIS to CAPITALIST. Most of these politicians are just PETTY BOURGEOISIE, they have nothing, hence the cause of CORRUPTION
Maybe he was paid to slow down Zuma. If we didn't have the likes of JJ, Pravin, Nhlanhla Nene, DA, AFRIFORUM, EFF, media Zuma was gonna destroy this country unchecked
That old man must stop playing delaying tactics in court if he truly is innocent, we are getting tired of sheep that refuse to apply their mind and swallow every single thing Zuma says.
Thank you JJ, people are multidimensional. His fight back during the Zuma was heroic. At the end, he was a problem. What put me off was how people took a dump on him while his body was still worm... too soon EFF.
1:20 Something says he may have been a Trojan horse. The man had a deep animosity for black people, probably those he could not control. Also, those who grew up in Durban would tell you how people of Pravin’s culture looked down on black people back then.
What an uncredibly balanced perspective...
Well Done Prof
We're so lucky to have Prof. Tabane headlining our prime time news space. He is so blunt, bold and honest without fear or favour.
Finally someone who won't hide behind the sentiment of "Don't disrespect the dead" .
A lot of respect to you JJ, well said bro.
I love this man's honesty. He just speaks the truth as he feels without fear. 👌💯
@@tqntuli2677 he is bias
Good analysis on PG.
FACTS - He did we'll at SARS, Finance Ministry, Fighting state capture.
But failed dismally at Public Enterprise.
He never fought but pretended to fight state capture that is continuing unabated
You would think differently if you had ever encountered him at close quarters. He undermined black people.
He found me chatting with some important American people at a conference organised by our government. Walked up to us, read my name tag, completely ignoring me other than that, then broke into our conversation addressing the yte Americans only, without even a nod in my direction.
The Americans were so embarrassed they quickly made excuses about returning to their seats and walked away. He immediately followed them to his seat which was in the same area as theirs.
That’s just one example.
Ezekiel 18:24 : But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
Klein, he did well at SARS but was terrible at Finance Ministry. Go look at the Budgets from 2009 to 2014: that is when the deficit worsened. I agree that coming out of the 2008 financial crisis governments needed to spend but as FM you need to guard the deficit, if it is being spent on consumption rather than fixed capital formation.
@@xolilekhumalo1615 I concede to your very valid point regarding 2009 to 2014
No crocodile tears for Pravin.
Well done JJ for speaking against those who threw stones at PG.
We were oppressed as a “RACE not “CLASS”him being a pharmacist doesn’t mean he was immune from apartheid contagious..We were affected,all of us,irrespective of even disability..how cruel was apartheid...
💯 my favourite TV presenter ❤❤❤# nothing but the truth.
Enormous respect JJ , thank you Sir
The background music is just unnecessary though, it makes it hard to concentrate on the content delivered.
May heaven welcome him. Akaye!!!
We don't go with things of this world but we go because of Jesus if believe he died and rose again and follow his word s that teaches how to live life of holiness then you go to heaven of God
Well said respect to u
im not buying this bela thing .. my question is, why always wanting to take away something that works when others you are in charge of dont work? same with nhi, cannot fix public hospitals but what to take over the private ones.. if som1 works hard and can afford pvt care, what is the problem? government should be using our tax money to get public hospitals to function lik pvt hospitals.. their are schools in kzn which use zulu as main language. their are schools in eastern cape that use xhosa.. so are they also goin to be forced to change ? its nonsensical and does not solve any problem.. if you dont speak afrikaans, go to a school which u are comfortable with.. we dont see english speakers or afrikaans speakers fighting to go to zulu speaking schools.. how come? JJ, the focus should be on changing those poor schools into the same standard as the afrikaans schools.. u cannot blame them for governments failures.. governments hav taken our tax money for 30 years..please show us the success stories when it comes to schools and hospitals in past 30 years? by now we should have had no poor hospitals.. who do u blame for the looting ? are afrikaaners or som1 to blame?
Some fair comment on Pravin. But let’s be realistic. When he took over the SOE’’s. They were already a sink hole, all of them. When you have a business like transnet that procures trains that can’t fit on the South African rail tracks what do you? People expected miracles from him when there were sea of hyenas around the hyenas. When you have a ceo of Eskom that focussed on writing a book in the three years he was employed. What do you do. cEOs that don’t do their job. And you expect a minister to resolve the problems. Country, please not be stupid in mass. But we are.our stupidly killed him.
The procured trains are in operational now. Which trains are you talking about?
@@eliasmotomboti2907 nonsense.. their is a request to have the trains back so they can be used on shorter routes which may work..
Truth is good, I fully agree with you
What your explanation for Pravin attempting to sell SAA for R51 and then rushing to seal all documents that pertain to that deal so that you, the tax payer could never find out why he chose to sell the SOE for R51?
@marabunya you and I pumped 50 billions into saa in past 15 years to keep paying for corruption of dudu myeni and others.. do u prefer to pump another 50 billion into saa? Money that could hav build 1 million houses? So when u say sold for r51, you must also give the context and history, but with 30% education, many cannot think past ter nose.. and it was not r51, their were condition like takatso had to put 2 million into saa as working capital.. pravin was doing the country a favor buy getin rid of somtin that was draining our tax money. It's only when pvt sector was running saa did we start seeing a turn around.. excess dead weight in terms of staff were fired and it started operating like a business, not a looting vehicle that it was..once that happened, suddenly the past rot was forgotten, and pravin became the bad guy
He’s speaking the truth
Thanks JJ before this I didn't know what was going on or which opinion to hold up.
Mbeki was ahead of ANC and South Africa while he was president
Mbeki was never for the people. He was for the market's.
1000 km ahead
@@Mpho-j3fin your wet dreams
@@Mpho-j3fhow was that not good for the people????? What point are you making?
He was a mess too. The entire ANC including Mandela
Bela Bill will do nothing for vanacular languages. Afrikaans schools will be replaced with english schools, deep down we know it. As black people, we must just be honest and say we are fighting for English😅
Fighting to disrupt the Afrikaans speaking community by any means neccessary.. Hogging every lever and space in this country.. Using the Afrikaans speaking community As crunches to Lean ON.. Ride the gravy train of functioning institutions of education and ruin them.. Because black people cant do it themselves... If Black people can do it.. They must show it... Build functional languages that can translate into the industry.. But Black people cant.. So to take a short cut.. Wait for the Afrikaans speaking community to build these instituitions and then want to be included(claiming public interest) .. Take them over and ruin them.. Look at Forthare....majority of black schools disfunctional.. In every sphere.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
They dirt it after changing it English
👊👊👊👊
At least the English a subtle in their racism unlike the Boers. And besides English is a globally used language Afrikaans is only used in SA.
I knew him Pravin recently because of the SOE. I really need to get my facts straight about people before I judge them..
I love Bela bill for the Language issue big time 😂😂😂
illegal immigrant children won't need documents for schools and you can't deport parents of a child in school? The worst people who will affected are Black South Africans' kids who will be squashed like sardines in classrooms, you'll see after the futsek makgowa euphoria wears off.
He was very proud of his tenure at public enterprises, the cost of his arrogance on ordinary lives warrants the criticism, no whitewashing this JJ!
Black Africans generally speak English as a home language. Mother tongue education is also not something new. In fact James Henderson (Lovedale's third principal) was advocating it in the 1930s. So JJ get your historical facts straight instead of perpetuating myths!!
Well done JJ
You speaking the truth my brother😊😊😊
If there is anything you said, that I agree with is that ANC is lucky to have someone like Mbeki still leaving in this crisis time the ANC is facing. Anyway, the truth is Renew or Die. Finish and Klaar.
You are such a blessing.
U will remember him because your starmach is full .we never have free Dom . Is not possible to have freedom of speech with empty starmach
Pravin was not larger than Life. Life is Life.
How many schools did anc govt build over 30yrs. Now small black kids must travel every day in grandfather's bakkie to other areas that dont have a black language. Who is to blame? not the DA
For me mbeki is nothing but a selfish pompous individual. Under his watch 3000 people died from aids. He don't care. He also wanted to overstay his Wellcome as ANC leader.
You will love this man today but hate him tomorrow. All love to you Sir.
" the DA must go away !" LOL
JJ you've only zoned in on one aspect of the Bela bill and using that to endorse it in its entirety including the flawed aspects.. The department of education is struggling with a shortage of skilled teachers and there currently many vacant teacher positions even though the system is producing more than enough teachers annually, so what's happening there?
The Gauteng government has just cut the education budget by over R4Billion for the 2024/2025 financial year, at the same time, the Bela bill says Grade R should be compulsory (which is good) but that alone will require an additional R12Billion! This doesn't make any sense at all! Some aspects of the bill are indeed great as you've highlighted but some aspects were not supposed to have been included, at least not until the government has the capacity and resources for those other clauses in the bill.
Thanks Pro
True at least JJ makes sense unlike his friend Oom Trevor
Power to truth✊🏿
With the crooks on top, who'll look for the crooks beneath?
Very Fair JJ
I like ur truth uncle JJ
The media freedom in South Africa is insane & we take it for granted😂😂 In most parts of the world you cannot criticize & speak against government like this without going missing...I agree with JJ, South Africa has not had a President since Thabo Mbeki.
SARS under Moyane was thriving more than Gordhan with a 1trillion rand collection and clean audits.
Moyane?????
The ground work was already done...Moyane was a rogue😂
Ezekiel 18:24 : But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
Jonnas Gwanga in the background, thats nice 😊
This kind of Journalism is Nice.
It's like let me get it off my chest.
Cool? Cool.
Thank you JJ Tabane truth well spoken mhlekazi
Very well put
Well done, JJ doors are still opened in the ANC
JJ Tabane my friend you tried but on this one you've drawn a blank. We're talking here about a person who was a public figure. You cannot dictate how people must feel about Pravin Sorry.
He’s expressing his feelings wtf
It's JJ's rant. His own views and opinions. Not a dictatorship on how people must feel. You're the one drawing blanks.
U are expressing your feelings and you want us to buy your story
Nope he is expressing his personal opinion on the life of Pravin both the positive and the negative.
Jj is back on enca
You're starting with your mealy-mouth rubbish... A minister is not responsible for the day-2-day running of a company!
He cannot be blamed for the collapse of the entity he has political head of, the beraucrats are...
The blame for the failure of SOE's lies squarely on the hands of the board and management.
The minister just ensures that the strategic discretion kept, the budgets are met and very little else!!
Private foibles of a public figure are just that... Public wrong doing like corruption or moral failure are what should concern us, nothing more!!
Please drop the music in this segment.
SOEs. Were already dead before he got in......
When Pravin Gordhan's UDF participation is narrated by the myth makers, one could be forgiven to believe that Gordhan is actually the resurrected Archie Gumede - founder-member (from the then Natal) of the UDF, and subsequently that party's president. There seems to be this concerted zeal to over-inflate his UDF years, artificially raising his activism to the highest levels of valour. In the military, they would say this was "stolen valour" by the narrators on his behalf. JJ is correct to separate Gordhan's record as an activist from that of him as a politician. As an activist, however, as admirable that activism was, he must not be fashioned into something akin to what someone like Archie Gumede was in the UDF!
It's a big lie Eskom,SAA was not failing all those institutions mentioned began to fail after Pravin took over.
The SOEs were already broken.
people change everyday and money is the fuel of the devil
Can one or two actions sully, despoil, erase, devalue the heroic legacy of a struggle hero? And I ask this question not restricted to the South African context but internationally. in my view I believe a single action can belittle the legacy of a political liberator. Secondly, is it fair to separate the legacy of a struggle hero from that of a public servant after 'victory'?
LoL UKZN medical school confirmed that PG didn’t have a degree in medicine 🤣🤣😂😂😂
of course but he was a pharmacist by profession
I dont think you have read the BELA bill. Parents can be jailed, the language change is great, but the rest, seriously. The minister is correct, how is the grade R requirement going to be funded? There is not enough money in the budget to support this? SADTU and those useless unions who just keep asking for more money but cant even do their job properly. These are serious problems, that need to be fixed and addressed.
ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS TO DO IN South Africa IS TO TELL THE TRUTH. WE ARE SO USED TO BIAS AND FAVOURITISM TO A DEGREE THAT WE ALLOW WRONG PEOPLE TO BE HAILED AS HEROES. OUR SOEs ARE MADE TO FAIL SO AS TO PRIVATISE THEM. INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE SOURCE PEOPLE TALK OF STATE CAPTURE WHICH TILL TODAY DOENT MAKE SENSE AT ALL
You talking nonsense, SOE was failing cos black ppl where not competent. We wont admit cos we dont want to accept blks are just incompetent at the moment...it will change when our kids become much more educated. There are a few of us that know the truth. Do you know how many of us live life very secretly without telling the truth cos we scared of being killed with our families. So dont talk nonsense, PG knew what he was against but he fought like a soldier.
You should have called julius Malema on this one
Pravin may have participated in the struggle, but he did not belive in the original ideologies of the ANC. They played a role in stalling RDP and introduced GEAR which dismally failed. Anyone going back to the critics of GEAR when it was introduced, will realize that high inequality, high unemployment, high interest rates, abject poverty, financially orientated state, rampant corruption, and collapse of State Institutions are the consequences of GEAR. SAn masses who rendered the Appartheid regime ungovernable, those who matched, those who were beaten and shot at, are the ones who played critical role iin the struggle. The role of some leaders are exaggerated.
Some people think Mbeki is God of somesort wow😂😂...All i know is that ANYBODY WHO'S PRAISED BY THE SOUTH AFRICAN MEDIA IS NO GOOD
I like your analysis bcs it realistic n I think the sad truth is politicians shade each other whenever one drops the ball n that what Pravin did n for that he became a face of privatization however as for ANC's renewal,it will be futile if the Phala Phala man is still the head as this remain the biggest scandal that is clouding the ANC.
Your political knowledge is terrible
Jamnandas was proud of everything he did. That's why he used power to stay in that position until he passed on.
How were you convinced to say this?😂
yes to the comment of language inclusion ...
Well good riddance, lets move on as a country.
And a so-called priest like Kenneth Meshoe is proud to say thats why they didn't join the government. When is he finding his deputy this priest Meshoe
Thabo Mbeki was speaking about Eastern cape every branch is run by criminals especially....Princess. Faku ELs Worst Mayor!!
It's not new.. Things were said was he was still alive 😢
I respect Pravin Gordhan, What he did for the Anti aparthate and my rights .He was a communist and that i dont like .
😢He Sold Out an Got Fat 😢just like GNU = NO HOPE 💔
JJ!? Are you all saying South African themselves never fought for freedom against apartheid. You irritate when you all make this fight for names. Show me one person who did not fight then and let us insult that person. Suka!
Pravin destroyed S.O.E
JJ Rants! Everyone in this c
SA is free to have their own opinions an you are saying that yourself. Everyone has a good and a bad side. If people see different things in them.
Don't critic fhe person but their activities as long as they character especially when they are consciously knowing it. Enea Motaung. S
Johannesburg. Gauteng Province.
You may be correct or incorrect in your statements, but at least you can have some respect for his family. During this time. This applies to anyone who lost their loved one.
they all start as struggle stalwarts that is the entry level to quick wealth, wrong again for JJ what did he do for Sars except for rogue unit and don't forget Sars under Zuma collected for the first time broke the trillion rand tax collection so let's cut this notion that Zuma did a disservice to Sars
The problem started when he was friends with Ramaposa... Then he never stood with the people but instead the white supremecy
Dint be stupid English is a superior language...all laws of physics maths r in English accept that that's why foreigners r better coz they r taught good English from a young age...we hv to beat the system not try to b comfortable our languages hv very small vocabulary ...the moment u air Yr show in setswana ull hv limited views
Tsek
Thank you sir!!!!
The general life rule: Never say negative things about a dead person because death means they no longer have the right to reply.
He never replied even when he was alive
@@TnT011-r4b did you ask him the questions?
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JJ
To be fair JJ...
When he took over those SOEs, they were already on their knees!
Bankrupt! Captured!!
Jj, I am not convinced on your review of Pravin because you stayed away from the big elephant in the room which is the fact that he own shares in almost every big company in SA and those companies traded with the state. I wonder why was that.
He realized there was more money in politics than running a pharmacy. Simple.
a lot of respect for you JJ you are a seasoned journalist. the challenge with politics is that politicians realise that political life is short, they are getting old, they have nothing,so they try to grab something financial, hence the CAUSE OF CORRUPTION. lets face it, Poverty is the cause of corruption. A politician looks at his life, it is coming to an end, yet he has nothing, so he tries to grab somethinG. Rememebr Gwede saying he has four degrees yet people in the private sector are earning more than him. That statement spoke volumes. I got shocked when I heard him saying that. Coming from a background of poverty ,it is very difficult to crack it to the middle class(BOURGEOISIE) from LUMPEN to PLORETARIAT to PETTY BOURGEOIS to BOURGEOIS to CAPITALIST. Most of these politicians are just PETTY BOURGEOISIE, they have nothing, hence the cause of CORRUPTION
It's not poverty, SA was founded on corruption and its people blinded by democracy
Yes he secrified his life....and sold out in the last moment....to me hez sh...t he can go to he....ll for r dont care.
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You're an agent paid to destroy Zuma
Maybe he was paid to slow down Zuma. If we didn't have the likes of JJ, Pravin, Nhlanhla Nene, DA, AFRIFORUM, EFF, media Zuma was gonna destroy this country unchecked
@@aarongunnz9513 Justify your statement
@@womens_leagueproductions7428 Zuma was busy trying to turn this country into dictatorship but they stopped him anyway
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Zuma will do nothing for south Africa
Jj is still suffering from COPE hangover. Put some respect on JZ name
That old man must stop playing delaying tactics in court if he truly is innocent, we are getting tired of sheep that refuse to apply their mind and swallow every single thing Zuma says.
@ntandotembe337 Respect for What???
@@berenecewessels6543 respect for the fact that he JZ defeated COPE in 2009 and 2014 and JJ is still suffering from that hangover
I agree with you
nontsents.
Thank you JJ, people are multidimensional. His fight back during the Zuma was heroic. At the end, he was a problem. What put me off was how people took a dump on him while his body was still worm... too soon EFF.
heroic to who?
@HarwardMbonxa not you obviously 😄
@@HarwardMbonxa ,to the country mate.now p... off
JJ Tabane was a Cope member fighting Zuma tooth and nails,so in all JJ doesn't like Zuma.
Most normal people don't like a bigoted old men but we move [not mention he is a criminal]
Jay Jay was roasting Zuma yong
Congratulations Sherlock
What is there to like in Zuma a neberton
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just rubbish as usual
What did OR Tambo say about the Indian and white group in the UDF. Askari never changed his colours. Mpimpi ke mpimpi
He was a devil
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Something says he may have been a Trojan horse.
The man had a deep animosity for black people, probably those he could not control.
Also, those who grew up in Durban would tell you how people of Pravin’s culture looked down on black people back then.